The Rod and Greg Show: USAID Shutting Down Leftist Propaganda; Protecting Sports Officials; DEI Uproar

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So again, welcome wing Man Wednesday here on Talk Radio One.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
It is the Rod and Greg Show. Great to be
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page as well. A lot going on today, Greg, and Yeah,
I have this question for you. All right, So these
the seven hundred protesters, Greg, show up at the state

(00:27):
capitol today. It's a day of protest against Donald Trump. Okay,
and this is part of a nationwide protest that apparently
is taking place in all cities. Where was it was
it Los Angeles or somewhere where they were protesting and
cars were driving Biplane Ice Ice.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Baby Vanilla Ice has never love It sounded better. I
I but I haray. Make that some bumper music. That's
our that's our antibe. It's our pro deportation bumper music,
our X break.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
I want a question. I see all the protesters and
I'm gonna read some of the comments. Then what have
they not seeing Greg, that you and I and most
Americans are seen. What are they not seeing about what's
going on in this country? And what has been unearthed
in just the past few days.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
You know what, I think they are so rap tight
and they I mean, I think many people have left
the Democrat Party. To be honest with you, I think
I think independents don't want anything to do with them.
I think I think anybody that was a Democrat in
the nineties, maybe two thousand, they're gone. They don't want
to be part of It's why Trump won't win with
just Republican votes. Who's left the sheeple, the ones that

(01:35):
are worshiping at the feet of AOC and Chuck Schumer
and Nancy Pelosi and the like. I mean it is
they are just they have no bearings. They don't know.
They've lost it. They have jumped the shark. They're some
Fonzie I'm happy days jumping the shark. They've lost it.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
They have well listened with some of the comments. Now,
there were protesters, as we mentioned, up on the state
capitol today, about seven hundred showed up from the uh
what some of the media is reporting here, here's here's
what one protester said. If you're not angry, you're not
paying attention.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Oh no, I'm angry. We're angry and I'm looking at
the plunder of the public treasury and the receipts they're
they're in and it does make me mad, but not
mad at the same things they are. They're mad, you've
found it for some reason. What do they care? They
don't even get the money. Maybe they do, I don't know,
But I don't even know why they are so invested
in people that are treating them like like, you know,

(02:30):
like animals. I mean, they don't treat them like people.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Here's another great one from the Fox thirteen story. This
is a woman. She says, it seems right now that
our country is in big trouble. Rules and regulations don't
seem to matter to those in power.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Oh, in the last four years, if you're in a border,
don't you just go to a border state, border county
and tell me how the rules were being so strictly
followed for the last four years. Give me a break.
It's just that for them to swallow what happened in
the last four years and then be able to make
that comment right there about the rule of law or

(03:05):
what rules ought to be followed or laws. Come on, Yeah,
it's just it's just cuckoo.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
And we have more and more stories coming out about
how how how Washington in this organization called USAI d okay,
how they supplied money even to news outlets like Political
and Reuters and send, you know, giving them grant money
so they could go ahead and go after Donald Trump
and protect Joe Biden. Were talking about that.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
They were subscriptions. They were like super expensive per person
for everybody under the sun, subscriptions.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Eighty four million dollars, eighty four million dollars worth of subscriptions.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Really, they like to read, okay, they like to real
How can you ask? How can you even question such
a thing?

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Now?

Speaker 1 (03:49):
They were did you see did you see Daily Wire? Breitbart?
Was there any conservative New York Post? Even the New
York Post? How about them? Did they subscribe to any
of them?

Speaker 2 (03:57):
None of them?

Speaker 1 (03:58):
None?

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Weird?

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, God weird, isn't it?

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Well?

Speaker 2 (04:02):
This thing is just getting so out of control. And
e Rates doubled down to this today and we're going
to play this. This is audio. It was found on
libs of tickling, I think and bless he raised hard.
He had to do a lot of editing on this.
You' here a lot of bleeps.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Let me frame this for this family, family values audience.
There are a lot of bleeps, but what you're hearing
is someone that you would never look at and say, well,
that's a rock rib Republican. That's a card carrying Republican.
This is a young person that probably is either independent
or thought they were Democrat at some point. But this
is just some young person talking a bit of a

(04:37):
swear bear. But but he raised done a good job.
But I think between the swear bear verbage, the message
is actually spot on. So if you can bear the bleeps,
there's something this young person saying that I think if
she's tracking it, everyone's tracking it.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, you protesters in this state who spent a day
up at the capitol in rain and drizzle protest, then
America is falling apart. Listen to what this woman has
to say and think about it for a second.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
Keep waiting and waiting and waiting for Democrats to start
redeeming themselves. And every single time I turn around, they
make it worse. Just one hundred percent, no turnabout rape, nothing.
It is just going downhill for the Democrats. Dude, can
you please tell me if someone right rob the bank? Okay,

(05:29):
let's just let's talk about a hypothetical before we get
into the real real quick. If someone robbed a bank,
someone washed the security footage, saw who robbed the bank,
told you who robbed the bank, you caught who robbed
the bank. Are you gonna be mad at the person
that robbed the bank or the person that told you
were being robbed? Okay, that's what's going on with Elon
Musk right now. For those of you that don't understand, Okay,

(05:51):
Elon Musk was hired for the Department of Government Efficiency.
What does the Department of Government Efficiency do? What is
its main number one goal? To make sure that our
government is running efficiently? Dumb asses, And here you are
literally trying to shoot the messenger because he is showing

(06:11):
you that a lot of our money is being wasted
that is not needed. What type of transgender operation do
you need overseas? What type of all of these DEI
inclusivity programs do you need to be spending our money
on overseas? And instead of being mad at the people
that are stealing our money and spending it one hundred

(06:33):
percent irresponsibly, you are mad at the man who told
you you were being ripped a foth You are a
cult member, plain and simple, there is no saving for you. Okay.
Every single time you guys continue to peddle these lines,
you are screaming more and more that you're a cult member.
And the more and more you do it, the more
and more the moderate Democrats are going to leave you.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Boy, does she lay it on the line or work?

Speaker 1 (07:00):
And you know that needed. I wish we should have
that in a loud speaker for those people that are
at the capital, by the way, they deface the capital,
they spray painted, eat the rich. You know, they just
they just you know, it's it's it's what you would
expect from someone with Trump derangement syndrome. They just they
just up there and it was cold, it was rainy,
and but they they had the spray paint the capital.

(07:22):
Classy move class. You know, no one pays attention to
rules anymore. While they're spray painting the.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Capital, defacing the cabin well, you know their leader, one
of their leaders is Chuck Schumer.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
We also know this is just the beginning. If DOJ
attacks US A I D today, then you can be
sure they'll move on.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
To another target tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
Good who knows, maybe they'll be the Postal Service or
the I R S. Yes, Social Security Administration they could
be next, or maybe our national security agencies. We also
know this is just the beginning. If DOJ attacks us
ai D today, then you can be sure they'll move
on to another target tomorrow. Who knows, maybe there'll be

(08:04):
the Postal Service or the IRS or even the Social
Security Administration they could be next, or maybe our national
security agencies.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
It's gonna move. They're going to move on to other agencies. Greg, Yeah,
are you ready for this? They're going after the IRS, which,
by the way, there's a poll out I think it
showed like seventy five percent of the people support a
thorough examination of the Internal Revenue Service.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Stop and thinking about this, folks. The people that are
just crying about USAID that it's being audited and defining
all this money that's being spent on a most of
that money stays in the pockets of these people. This
is a domestic spending, you know, this is just frills
and things that are staying here. But whatever they do
send abroad is insane. Oh and they have to fund

(08:49):
you know, the World Economic Forum, you know that Swiss
Economic Forum where everybody comes in a jet sixty two
mil for that, because you know, they need they need
the dollars. But the same people that are defending that,
I say, robbery of the public treasury are also the
ones that want eighty seven thousand IRS agents hired to

(09:09):
investigate and audit you. They want you to be audited
by the IRS, and they want us AID to run
free and spend on the leftist globalist agenda they've had
and contribute to the Democrat candidates they want, and to
perpetuate themselves inside that beltwigh without you knowing that's what

(09:30):
they want. So eighty seven thousand IRS agents to audit you,
the American people, the hard working people of this country,
and all that money through USAID for them for their agenda.
How dare you ask? How dare you take offense?

Speaker 2 (09:44):
And Marco Rubio points out Jony Arntz points out that
over the years, on several occasions they've gone to the
USAID Agency or whatever you want to call it, and
they said, we want to look and find out where
this money is going. And they told both senators take
a hike, we owe you nothing.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
So what's the difference between JFK starting us AID and
maybe for you know, for the intended purpose back in
nineteen sixty one or whenever it came. And Trump starting Doge.
You know, I'm told you know, you can't end another
president's program. Oh and as a president, you can't start
a program. We've been told both by the left you
can't touch USAID and you can't start Doge. Well, how

(10:22):
about Doge is able to look into USAID? I find
it all what better? It's actually better than what I
thought draining the swamp would look and sound and feel
like I'm telling you it is. We got receipts, and
that's what I love. Because the Inspector General reports the
putting the right people in charge, you never really get

(10:42):
to see the details. If you want to go down
a rabbit hole, start watch. Go on on social media
and start following these links to these tax returns. You
will not believe your eyes what's being stolen from American
people in the taxi mony? They pay all right?

Speaker 2 (10:57):
When we come back on the Wingman Wednesday edition of
the out in Greg Shoe right here on Utah's Talk
Radio one oh five nine kN R S, why is
a local media outlet defending USAID. We'll explain that and
talk about that coming up next right here on Talk
Radio one oh five nine KNRS, the latest news today
concerning the USAID organization, which basically is being shut down.

(11:21):
I think greg because they're saying enough enough here with
the amount of money that they've uncovered. But here we have,
you know, and there are a lot of people. I mean,
if you go back to the history of this agency,
it was created in nineteen sixty one by John F. Kendy,
and this was an effort on the part of the
United States to counter the influence of communism all around

(11:42):
the world and you know, to fight against the Soviet
Union at that time. And I think the intentions were good.
But over the years it has become and especially during
the Biden administration, I think it probably started with Barack
Obama an agency that does not care about free and independence,
and that's what this agency was originally set up to do.

(12:05):
It now cares about issues like LGBTQ, transgenderism, making sure
the world understands diversity, equity, and inclusion. And that's what
this has become. Now you've got you know, the Democratic
Party out there who are defending it, even though we're
starting to learn the crazy amounts of money that this
agency has spent to promote their very liberal agenda. They're

(12:28):
woke agenda, right, And you and I we talked about
before the break, what are these people not seeing that
most Americans are seen that this agency is simply a
waste of time and money. But then we have a
local media outlet, the Deseret News, and one of their
columnists now defending what USAID does well.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
And I to tell you, Tali Richardson, I used to
work with her. She was Holly on the Hill and
blogging was coming out way way back, a long time ago,
and she was conservative, right of center. I worked for
Dan Lillen quists. He was a state senator running for
US Senate against Oren Hatch, And so that sets it backaways.
But over time, as I've read Holly's contribution in the

(13:11):
dest News, as she has taken a very left of
center approach to life and to commentary. Again, I do
not know how anyone, including Holly, who I've known, could
ever begin to defend USAID. Now, you can go back
to its origins in nineteen sixty one, and you can
fill a couple of paragraphs as she does, about what
their high minded aspirational goals were.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Health, goals, religious freedom goals, sure.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Do it all. But after the weekend we've seen in
this Treasury Department, where you get to now see how
that money is funneled through countless nonprofits, countless non government NGOs,
countless funneling of money. You can't even begin to say
that the USAID fulfills any of that mission. Oh, if

(13:57):
you can please show me how, because I'm looking at
four billion dollars that was supposed to help Haiti, because
that's you know, the overseas thing, of which two percent
made it to Haiti. M hmkay. Yeah, that's not made up.
That's not someone's projection. That's the receipts. That's what the
receipts show. How does USA and its religious freedom comport
with the transgender operas and the and by the way,

(14:20):
any of it. I cannot find in these things that
they're that they are sending money to that doesn't divide
broad populations, that doesn't pull people apart. If you are
around the world and you are putting US taxpayer money
unbeknownst to us into endeavors that divides that nation's community
against one another, which so much of what we're watching

(14:42):
does exactly that, then How in the world can you
even begin to defend or say that USAID looks anything,
is even a shell of what it was when it
was created in nineteen sixty one. You can't. I'm sorry
you can't. There's too much math to show Otherwise.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
How do you offend an organization two points on one
of Greg, How do you defend an organization that is
giving hundreds of thousands of dollars to people who live
here in the United States to run these various organizations.
How do you defend that? Yeah, okay? And how do
you defend an organization that supposedly handles US taxpayer dollars

(15:20):
right and distributes taxpayer dollars When a senator to senators
come to that organization and say, we want to look
at your books. We'd like to find out where this
money is going, how you're spending taxpayer's dollars, and top
executives that agency tell these lawmakers take a hike, it's
none of your business. How do you defend that?

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Well, let me tell you how, the Deseret News columnist
Holly Richardson tries to. She says, you know that in
Federal off Section seven zero three six of the twenty
twenty four to Foreign Operations Appropriation Act states that Congress
prohibits the reorganization read or other plans described in Subsection

(16:03):
B by this Department of State, the United States Agency
for International Development, or any other Federal Department agency, or
organization funded by this Act without prior consultation by the
head of such Department, agency, or organization with the appropriate
Congressional committees. That sounds like a lot of words speak.
Let me tell you what that says. What I just
read they are they answer to no one. That's what

(16:24):
that is. Because if you look at these amounts of
money that actually stand in the pockets in USAID where
they stay. Boy, they help a lot of leftist lawmakers.
They help create the amount of money that's being that's
being shuttled around, and it just goes all over the place.
But the way it's where it always ends up is
in the pockets of people left of center globalist leftists

(16:47):
who also contribute a lot of that money to the
election of members of Congress the US Senate, who then
back the play that us AID should should not be
transparent one bit. I have never met anyone in the
media who argues for no transparency. How I mean, I
thought that was the bright lights. I thought that was
the antiseptic. You get put more transparency into something, you

(17:09):
get more, bring more light to it, and then then
the cockroaches crawl. Right, you've got a Deseret News columna saying,
keep it dark, don't let anyone see it. How dare
they open it up and see what's going on there?
That is, they shouldn't and they'll by the way, the
losses you're not supposed to. Isn't that a nice law?
Isn't that a nice section seventy thirty six to quote.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Well what the break? Well, what this article is saying
is Donald Trump, Elon Musk, Well, guess what law says
you can't touch this agency? You should you shouldn't do it.
So you know what that tells Donald Trump. Never tell
Donald Trump or Elon Musk or the American taxpayer you
can't do this, because the American taxpayers say, oh yeah,
watch us. And that's what I think it's starting to happen.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
If you just keep more. If if you're arguing for transparency,
I think you're on the right side of a discussion.
If you want things hidden, you're on the wrong side.
Particularly when we Talk Government.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Surprised that the d News would do that. All right,
Mark coming up on the Rodden Greg Show in Utah's
Talk Rady on onet oh five nine K and rs. Well,
let's continue our discussion now about what's going on with
USAI D. Joining us on our Newsmaker line is John
Daniel Davidson. It's always great to have John on the show. John,
Thanks for joining us. He's with a federalist John. You
right about the fact that there's a change. What is

(18:24):
taking place is that the money may be going awagh,
But this is really an effort to shut down left
wing propaganda. Isn't that the real point of what Elon
Musk and Donald Trump are trying to do.

Speaker 6 (18:37):
Yeah, it is more about the It's about more than
the money. What's going on with a lot of these grants,
a shocking.

Speaker 7 (18:45):
Number of them, is that it's clear when you read.

Speaker 6 (18:47):
What the grants are for. These are overseas grants given
to countries all across the world through USAID. They predominantly
fun left wing wope causes and projects, sometimes ridiculous ones
that are comical, like a transgender opera or you know,

(19:09):
LGBTQ programming. In some far flung part of the world,
or atheism in Nepal. It's really you know, yeah, I mean,
you can have a ball just going through and picking
out the most outrageous grants here. But the point is
that USAID is being used to spread anti Western, anti Christian,

(19:34):
and ultimately anti American propaganda to every corner of the globe.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Are you struck by the percentage of funds that actually
don't make it overseas. I keep hearing that this is
all foreign aid, but I'm staring at it. Maybe this
is from twenty ten, but four billion dollars it was
meant that it was attributed to going to Haiti for
USAID from us AID or USAID, and only two percent

(20:00):
made it to Haiti. The rest went to DC firms
and what they call other I'm looking at all the
different things coming out of dough. I'm looking at these
little bubbles that show how much received by federal grants.
Federal money's paying ninety eight ninety seven percent of these
entities grants that are handed out are tiny. And then
there's money that you don't know where it's going or

(20:22):
how it's going. I don't know that this is foreign eight.
It looks like domestic spending to me, would you agree with.

Speaker 6 (20:28):
Yeah, A lot of the money gets caught up in
compensating the people who run the NGOs that get these grants,
and so, you know, I mean, this stuff is coming out,
you know, minute by minute right now on social media,
especially on x and people are just digging through a
lot of the information that's that's publicly available and finding

(20:49):
these massive salaries to the tune of between three hundred
and five hundred thousand dollars a year for these NGOs
that are based out of Washington, d C. And the
picture that's emerging over yesterday and today that a lot
of Americans may be intuitive but couldn't sort of point
to before, but now we can, is that a lot
of what's going on in DC is eluding of the

(21:12):
American taxpayer and a grist operation by these NGOs in
cahoots with USAID and the State Department and other federal
entities that are just taking taxpayer dollars millions and million,
including media outlets. It was, you know, came out today
that Politico got eight million dollars from USAID last year.
That's crazy, it's just crazy, and it's a massive scam.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
John, You look at these numbers, and they are stunnying.
As Greg just pointed out, even staying here in the
United States, what about the American people, do you get
a sense is it too early to tell if the
American people are going, wow, what has happened here? How
did this happen right under our feet? Using our own money.

Speaker 7 (21:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (21:54):
I think people are sensitive to this, especially given the
recent natural disasters we've had in North Carolina, the fires
in California, the horrible response from FEMA, and the Biden
administration offering Americans who have lost everything, like, you know,
vouchers for seven hundred dollars. Meanwhile, in the Imperial City,

(22:15):
these you know, nonprofits that nobody has ever heard of,
have grants that total tens of millions of dollars for
these obscure, left wing, woke projects that nobody cares about.
In parts of the world that are that are you know,
very distant from the United States and from the concerns
of our people. So I think people are kind of

(22:37):
primed to be sensitive to this kind of stuff. And
at the same time, you know, you have people who
are still struggling with the cost of groceries and gas.
Inflation is still horrible, and we're still dealing with the
fallout from the Biden administration policies on this stuff. So yeah,
it's a slap in the face to Americans everywhere, and
I think people are paying attention to it.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
So I'm struck by two facts, two things that are
happening in real time this week. Today it's happening is
this program is on the air, and that is one.
The specificity of the money and how it has moved
and how it is shifted from entity to entity. I'm
looking at a bar chart here for Chelsea Clinton casually
taking home eighty four million dollars through these various groups

(23:18):
in her parents foundation, but her name's named there. But
here's the part that's blowing my mind. I would think
when we have this kind of specificity and we have
EI in numbers and we're seeing how this money is
being funneled, that the people that have been profiting from
this should be running away from it like a spent
fuel rod because it's actually robbing of the public treasury.
But they're defending it. They're protesting outside the Treasury building.

(23:42):
They're actually trying to defend this. Are you surprised that
the left and this leftist agenda and how they have
wandered this money that they are trying to shape a
narrative that defends all of this. Is that shocking.

Speaker 6 (23:57):
I mean, it's only shocking in the sense that it's
shockingly stupid. You know. You see you see Chuck Schumer
and these guys out there trying to gin up like
a ground swell of protest over something that frankly appalls
most Americans when we find out about it. But the

(24:18):
reason the left is so up in arms about this,
the reason that they're able to muster some outrage over
this where they couldn't muster any outrage over you know,
North Carolina or the Los Angeles fires or the Hawaii
fires or anything else, is that this is their gravy train,
and it's been. And the more people dig into this,
the more obvious it is that this was a way

(24:39):
to buy influence for policies and for ideas that are
not popular and that most people don't share.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (24:47):
And that's you know, to the point about Politico And
there's other media entities now that we're finding out have
been grant grant recipients, eight Reuters AP, you know, and
when you and then you look back at the coverage
of these outlets. I'm just using that as an example
of how the influence pedaling works. You know, Politico towed

(25:08):
the Democrat line on Trump, and when you look at
the amount of money that they received through USAID, it
ramped up sharply in twenty fifteen when Trump started running
for the presidency and then went through the roof alter
Trump's presidency. And of course Politico was right at the
center of the law fair against Trump, at the efforts

(25:30):
to suppress the Hunter Biden laptop story. They're right at
the heart of the leaked Supreme Court opinion on Dobbs.
They've been right at the center of resistance to the
MAGA movement and to Donald Trump. And I don't think
it's a coincidence.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
John, One final question. They've only taken a look at
this one agency, USAID. As Elon must continues to dig
into what taxpayers fraud and waste with his nerd army
out there, we expected to find even more abuse and
fraud as he digs deep into what the federal government
has been doing. Oh.

Speaker 6 (26:03):
Absolutely, because there's grant programs at all of the major agencies.
The Department of State, which operates as we're already finding
out as a kind of pass through for USAID, Department
of Agriculture, Department of Interior, Department of Commerce, of course,
the Department of Defense. I think we're going to find
out that there's been a lot of this sort of

(26:25):
grant making going on that is really just patronage, ideological
patronage for left wing ideas and causes. And it's easy
to kind of laugh at the you know, drag Queen's
Story Hour and Drag shows that we fund an Ecuador
or whatever. But there's the larger problem is just what

(26:47):
a giant scam this is against the American people using
our money to prop up unpopular and frankly dangerous causes
around the world and here at home, actually undermining democracy
in the name of defending it.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Pretty amazing. John Daniel Davidson from The Federalist joining us
on our newsmaker line talking about the real intent of
what USAID has become.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
It's a joke, it's actually not a joke. It's just
that they need a new symbol or a symbol for
us AID. It needs to be someone with a ski
mask on and a gun in their hand.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
That ought to be their symbol taxpayer, where you've come
to take your money?

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (27:28):
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Why do you claim to support women and girls?

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (27:54):
What we need you most, you remain silent.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Today.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
Males are claiming our identity, are sports, our spaces. Men
and boys are stealing opportunities, metals, trophies.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
And our future.

Speaker 8 (28:06):
And it is not there or just.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
In fact, it's often dangerous. Yet you refuse to use
your platform to stand up.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
You say you're for social justice and progress.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
So why do you allow men's rights to come before ours?

Speaker 2 (28:18):
See what, the big platform.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Comes an even bigger responsibility.

Speaker 8 (28:21):
You have a chance to do the right thing, don't
just do the easy thing.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
So we're asking you, Nike.

Speaker 8 (28:26):
So we're asking you Nike.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
So we're asking you, Nike as the biggest voice in
all of sports?

Speaker 9 (28:32):
Will you stand up for me?

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Will you stand up for me? Will you stand up
for me?

Speaker 6 (28:35):
Will you stand up for me?

Speaker 10 (28:37):
Will you?

Speaker 11 (28:37):
Will you?

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Will you just do it?

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Great?

Speaker 7 (28:42):
Ed?

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Will you just do it?

Speaker 2 (28:44):
That little girl looks into the camera and says, will
you just do it? Nike protecting women's sports? Of course,
the President today signing that executive order. Mike Lee was there,
Bridgess Owens was there, Abby You. We'll have more on
it coming up in our newscasts just a minute ago.
But the President is doing what he can. And it
was a great ceremony today, really special. And you can
see the picture of it on our X page with

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the all these little they look like soccer players, Greg
these girls soccer players gathering around the president to watch
them sign the order.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
I'm telling you that it did. It was so heartwarming.
You saw some of these old girls there, the little
heads just made it over the table. It was so cute.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah, all right, when we come back, what do we
do to protect officials here in Utah? We're talking about umpires,
referees along those lines.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yes, he was listening to wing Man Wednesdays.

Speaker 7 (29:33):
M hmm.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
And this back when this is old school. This was
on old school, back when it was wing Man Wednesdays,
and he said, Hughes, you got to play that song
because that is I'm listening to your show and that
that that that's the beginning of Everybody, Get in the van,
pass me the copperhead. We are we are going.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
We are rocket and rolling today. Well, it's great to
be with you on this Wednesday afternoon Wingman Wednesday. You're
on Utah's talk radio one oh five nine can Arrested
is the Rod and Greg Show. I'm rod Ark, Citizen
Greg Hughes. Okay, Oh, John Curtis, US Senator from the
state of Utah, you got some splain into.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Oh it just got real, folks, just got really just
hit us where we live, just hits us where we
live right here at can.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Here, John, you got some splaining to do.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
So, folks, you didn't might not know this because this
is kind of a I don't know, maybe an inside
baseball issue, but AM radio is pretty pretty important. It's
broadcastability far exceeds that of FM. If you think it's
the old folks station, it's not really, I mean, especially
in times of emergency. People need their AM dial. You

(30:41):
get some areas like Los Angeles County where you have KFI,
which is only an AM radio station in a county
that's larger than all but six states in the nation,
where that station is one of the most listened to
radio stations in Los Angeles County. Uh, there's been a
move by auto dealers or automakers to get rid of
a radio dial given it's UH, it's its use uh

(31:05):
and it has heavy usage still here in twenty twenty five,
but especially during times of emergencies where your AM dial
is your most dependent to get information, critical information. There's
been a lot of work to make sure that they.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Am going on for a couple of years, frequency.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Stays in our cars, and it's been largely successful. So
you've never really heard us talk about until one Loan
Republican in the United States Senate decided, hell no, I
won't go and he decided he wants to end AM
radio dials in our new manufactured vehicles in America now, and.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah, it has passed. The House went to a Senate
committee today passed out of that committee with only one dissenting.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Vote, sole vote, Republican joh John Curtis. John, you got
he is now he is He's coming after us. Rod.
That's is just a full frontal attack on can r S.
That is just he has just decided to throw. He
wants to throw with us. He wants a fight.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
John, you need to explain that vote to us, because
you're right, Greg, am Rady was very important to a
lot of people around this country and they depend on
He doesn't care.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, I must not care about emergencies, doesn't care about
people getting information in times of crisis. That's he's callous
to that.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Obviously, give his off as a call and let him know.
All right, let's move on. Let's talk about interesting measure
or effort underway up on Utah's Capitol Hill to protect
sports referees and the bill, the changing code I guess
it would be, is being put together buying state Representative
John Hawkins, who is now joining us on our Newsmaker

(32:35):
line this afternoon to talk about this. John, how are
you and thanks for joining the Rodd and Greg Show.
Thanks for joining us. Representative.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
Yeah, here, Rod and Greg, good to be with you.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Explain what you're trying to do with this change in
the code.

Speaker 7 (32:49):
So in this particular case. This has a reference to
some sporting events that I've been to over the summer
and fall where parents coaches kind of got out of
hand and threatened referees and with violence, and I just
I just don't think there's any place for that in

(33:10):
in our society. And so basically what I've done is
created an aggravating factor where the judge can you know,
upon sentencing, can you know, institute a nominal, you know,
additional penalty for behavior that that probably should be controlled

(33:31):
a little bit better than it is right now.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Now, represent Hawkins, You're like, I love you, I think
you're a great rocket conservative, But I gotta I gotta
tell you, but in the infamous But but I see
this as kind of like, I don't know, uh, protected class,
special protections for referees that maybe a dad like me

(33:57):
watching my kids' sports where something gets rowdy or someone
comes after me. Is this is this?

Speaker 6 (34:02):
Like?

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Is this is this?

Speaker 6 (34:05):
Is?

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Are referees now in umpires? Are they a protected class
and are entitled to more protections than your parents who
may feel the same aggression inside those sporting events?

Speaker 7 (34:18):
You know, No, that's not my intent with this bill.
It's not to create a special class. It's really just
to make you know, help people think twice before before saying,
you know, I was at a baseball game this summer
and we're we're warming up, my kids were warming up,

(34:40):
and there was a commotion on one of the field
that they were about to go play on and it
was a coach that was in the face of a
of an official. Apparently the official made a bad call
and the coach was kicked out of the game.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Wouldn't leave the field.

Speaker 7 (34:58):
Empires said, if you don't leave, I'm gonna call the police,
and the the the coach said, don't worry about it,
I'll just meet you at your car afterwards, right, and
made some made some additional threats in front of fourteen
fifteen year old kids. And so my intent is not
to create a special class, but to say, like, let's

(35:21):
not take it too far. It's it's youth activities, and
we're you know, if we're not if we're not careful,
we're going to lose officials. And then it just it
ruins opportunities for our kids. And so, you know, it's
just it's just trying to say like let's take us
let's take a step back and realize, like this isn't

(35:42):
as serious as we're trying to make it out to be.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Can I still boo the call? Still boom? I mean
I've been my whole life. I've been yelling at reps
and blind umpires my whole life.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
You just can't. You just can't throw a punch.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
I do. Oh, I don't want to punch them. I
I certainly want to tell me need glasses. I do
need to them.

Speaker 7 (36:04):
You know, Yeah, you can move the call for sure.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Have you seen these referees with the Kansas City chiefs.
I mean, they really need to be booed. I'm telling
you something's going on there. Representative, you can't put.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
The protect timing that's appropriate timing, obviously, sir, you have
had either some personal experience from this or you're hearing
from other refs and officials around the state we're asking
for some sort of protection. Is that? Is that the
my guess, am? I right on that.

Speaker 7 (36:34):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I've heard. You know, even at
the previously mentioned baseball game, the referee found out I
was a state official and asked me if I'd take
a look at running a bill that would provide some
additional protection. I've seen I've seen football games where referees
have been assaulted and nothing has happened, and you know,

(36:56):
the effort to prosecute the assault just goes nowhere.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
And so.

Speaker 7 (37:02):
Just really trying to to figure out a fine line
to help protect these referees so that our kids can
have a great youth experience on a field of play.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
So I I think, just just my two cents, I
would love to see that protection maybe in the presence
of kids, or in the presence or at a sporting event.
Even if two parents in the stands get into a fight,
there be as severe as even the Empire. Because I
think that what you're what you're drilling at in all
seriousness is appropriate that I think the behavior of adults,

(37:39):
especially around youth sports is abhorrent at times and could
it can actually take away not only from the moment,
but could take away opportunities going forward for for youth sports,
which I we have to have. I think it's the
I think it's so important for our kids to do this.
I think it's why we're the Land of the Free,
home of the brave. It's I think it's it's it's
our sports and how kids learn to compete I'd like

(38:00):
to see that broader in terms of the conduct of
adults in those venues period. But I have to say,
it's Super Bowl work going into Super Bowl weekend and
you're trying to be affirmative action for referees and it's
the chiefs. But I think there's a I think there's
a conspiracy here. I am just I'm just trying to connects. Okay,
I'm just connected a Dolts representative. I'm seeing a connection of.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Well, where where do where does this change stand? Representative Hawkins?
Do you do you see the change being made through
this legislative session.

Speaker 7 (38:33):
Yeah, I we passed it through Law Enforcement Committee in
the House, uh this week unanimously. It's it's on the
board in the in the House, and you know, hopefully
we'll get a chance to We've got a lot of
bills on the board in the House right now, so
hopefully we get a chance to present it. I have
a good feeling about it, and uh, we'll see what

(38:54):
the Senate does. So it's a it's a possibility again.
You know, an aggravating factor is a nominal, you know,
addition to the sentence, right, And so I'm not I'm
not trying to create a new class of criminals, a
protected class. It's really just let's think twice about a
bad call and leave it there.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Could you could I can I make a request? Could
you put a line in this change alerting the public
to Greg Hughes, Greg Hughes anywhere nearest sporting lookout because
he does get a.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Little still doing. I swear I'm gonna boo. I will
boo a bad call. It is my freedom of speech.
They will not stop me, especially the bad plenty of
for sure.

Speaker 7 (39:39):
Yeah, and most You're right, Greg, most of them are
blind anyway, you know, we should be able to still.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
They cannot be treated better.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
No, it's just taking.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
For referees is my nightmare. Okay, that is a nightmare
for me.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Representative, know your business. Thanks for spending a few minutes
of your time with us, Thanks so much. All right,
that is Representative John Hawkins. We want to open up
the phones to you. Greg. Now you you were at
South Bend this year, Yes, correct, Yes I was. I
am told that they are not students are discouraged from
booing at Notre Dame games. Yeah, well you know, did

(40:19):
you hear any?

Speaker 1 (40:20):
I didn't? No, I know, I didn't get any memo
that way, but I did notice that the Notre Dame
is incredibly cordial and they see themselves as hosts when
you come to their game, and they well I was.
I was the Notre Dame fan there, so I wasn't
going there as with the opposing team, but I did
see that there was a lot of courtesy extended to
visiting fans. Thank you for coming, by the way, same

(40:42):
with Old Miss. I went to an old really when
I was well, they might I don't know if they
allow it, but I will tell you that as a
BYU fan years ago, when I went there, they had
it their tailgates, everything, people thanking us for coming even
when they lost, and by you won that game, people
saying have a safe travel, safe travels home, thanks for coming,
people going out of their way to be very nice

(41:04):
and I and I thought that would the unique outliers
in that were all Miss and SEC football at Ole
Miss and when b Way you played them. And then
when I went to a first Notre Dame game, I
saw a level of courtesy that I don't usually see.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Some by you tried this, if you're there, you'll fail. Yeah,
you know you tried this.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
I don't know. I don't think I'm such a b
A fan, but BA fans don't even like me. I'm
like not even accepted by my own you know. Yes,
they think every first game of a BYU game home game,
when I'm cheering or I'm yelling at our own team
because they made a boneheaded play, some person next to
me will say, are you sitting here all year? Are
you going to be here all year? As if I

(41:45):
don't know what that means. You know, they just don't
want me around. They don't care, they're heath, They're just
they want to pour drinks on you. They just want
to They're just there. It's like the Orcs and the
Lord of the Ring. Wow, when there's a b and
you go in there, it's it's ony dangerous.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Yeah, all right, all right, now, when we come back,
we want to get your thoughts on the protecting the referee.
Do they need a little extra protection. I'd love to
hear your horror stories, because there are some out there,
But do you feel they need a little bit of
extra protection. That's what Representative Hawkins is trying to do
with this bill. Phone lines are open to you now
eight eight eight five seven O eight zero one zero,

(42:24):
triple eight five seven O eight zero one zero, or
on your cell phone dial pound two fifty and say
hey Rod. We'll get to your calls and comments coming
up here on the Wingman Wednesday edition of The Routing
Greg Show this Wednesday. It's only midweek.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Man, no, man, give my second mound now.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Oh, we just need to remind you, thank you John
Curtis for killing AM radio in this country. But we
just want to bring it up.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
He hates people needing information during emergencies, and we probably
wonder why why do you hate saving information or just
saving saving people, or why do you hate people? See
how this goes you? See how quickly? Yeah, this goes downhill.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
You're you're very quick, all right, if you're just joining
this now, we're getting your phone calls. Having a conversation
with you tonight about a bill or a change in
the code being put forth by Representative John Hawkins, which
would add a little bit of more protection. I guess
we should say, Greg, it does make them a different
class of people, even though it kind of sounds like
it does. Protect sorts and enhancement, protects officials and referees

(43:27):
and sporting events, were attacked by angry fans like Greg Ques.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
I like the boo and yell I don't touch.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
You, don't touch. Okay, let's get to your reaction to this.
Love to hear your stories and your thoughts on if
refs and officials do need a little extra support eight
eight eight five seven eight zero one zero on your
cell phone dial pound two fifty and simply say, hey, Ron.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Our callers, our audience will sort this whole thing out. Yeah,
we've had We've shared our opinion, but our audience will
sort it out. So let's start with Eve from Roy Steve,
Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show. What say you
about these referees? Do we do? We do we punish
him more?

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Do?

Speaker 1 (44:08):
What do we do about all this?

Speaker 3 (44:12):
Well?

Speaker 7 (44:12):
First, I love the show. I think it's overreach. I
mean I I do see that there's like I'm my
grandsons wrestle and sometimes we see the fathers. It's not
the rest they get after the fathers start getting after
each other, and I think they ought to settle that
by letting the old men get on the mat, he
can win.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
I like you, Yeah, I agree, I love that.

Speaker 7 (44:36):
That's a better way. Yeah, let it happen that way,
just totally let it do that. I mean, I think
the thing is is that it seems like a little
bit of education or if it's really bad, kick the
person out of the of the event and don't let
them come back. That that would really put a skid
to it, and people would be like, I'm not going
to act up because they'll kick me out. But to

(44:56):
have a bring the police involved sometimes I've I think
it's overreach and we already have laws it'll cover assault,
So I don't get.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
The point of it. But yeah, I'm with you on that. Yeah,
I'm with you on that, sty because I think, don't
we already have laws and plates to protect people who
are assaulted, so why do we have to add this
to it?

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Absolutely, I'm with Steve there, and I think because I
think I'm thinking about the parents too. It's when we
were interviewing represent Howkins, I'm thinking parents can get as
rowdy as anyone else and they should probably be punished. Yeah,
let's go our next caller. Uh, let's go to Richard
in Springville. Richard, thank you for holding and welcome to
the Rod and Greg Show. What do you say? How
do we sort out these these blind umps or referees,

(45:39):
these angry parents, even the parents that might get salty
with each other. What do we do about all this?

Speaker 12 (45:45):
Well, I got a great shortcut.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Why do we have to have laws?

Speaker 12 (45:50):
Why do you have to you know, go before the
the state legislature and debate laws and for this and that.
Why not just have a regulation that carries a penalty.
I was in the military for a number of years
and we have the U C. M J Uniform Quted
Military Justice. And you know, if you did something wrong,

(46:13):
if you scribbled on a well you just damage to
the property of the government. Well there was a penalty
to that and a punishment, so there wasn't a law.
I mean, so you see where I'm going. Yeah, yeah,
we get we got two hundred two hundred bills wort
and somewhat bills, I mean more than that. Yeah, and

(46:36):
then you have to all that time spent I mean,
and with all this, I mean the legislators should be
involved with with with helping to form the uh these regulations.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
I mean, that makes it makes sense. Richard, I agree
with you. I think Greg and I have two grandchildren
that play soccer and soccer the youth soccer programs now
have very strict regulations about parents getting after referees in
soccer games, and the team can either be the parent
can be kicked out or the opposing team can be

(47:15):
awarded a goal if parents get out of hand. Yeah,
I mean that's I think that's the rule. I'm not certain,
but I mean in youth soccer now, parents are supportive
of the players, but they don't dare yell at the
refs anymore because the refs could say get out of here.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
I don't know if you, I don't know if our
listening audience knows. But I'm a championship mighty might there
we go? You know pee wee football coach. You know
I'm the assistant coach, assistant coach.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
You were the water boy.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
A hydration was part of my spon special I was
a hydration specialist. I was assist won two championships, two championships,
So I'm a championship assistant coach. But I'll tell you
how the ref caught my attention when he drove me crazy,
and I did get after refs I thought were being
unfair one more word, and I I was in legislature
back then, and I'm one more word and you are

(48:03):
gone and you won't come back. Man, I was a
church mouse after that, I walk right back to that sideline.
I didn't have another word to say because I want
to get kicked out.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
I have a tough time seeing you be a church mouse.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
I don't kick me out of the game. I can't
be kicked out. These kids needed me, they needed my
coaching for that.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
All right.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
On the line, Stay on the line and we'll get
to you. More of your calls coming up right here
on the Rotten Greg Show.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
We were rolling right along. We needed our audience to
sort out this whole you know, is it affirmative action
for referees? Is it an equal treatment under the lob?
We you know, we had a great interview with rebst Hawkins.
I see what he's trying to do. He's see some
crazy things happening in front of the kids and mayhem
at the game, and he wants to do something about it.

(48:49):
But is this the right path. That's why we're coming
to you are good listeners to sort it all out.
Let's start with Brian from Hooper. Brian, thank you for
holding and welcome to the rod Greg Showy.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
My thoughts on this I agree with the are there, Yes,
we're here, go ahead, Okay, I agree with that one.
The veteran that called in about having regulations instead of laws, Yeah,
I think that would work best. It'd be a whole
lot cheaper and probably a whole lot faster to implement.

(49:26):
But that being said, if they're going to implement a
law regarding this, they need to also have the same
type of law that's going to cover parents that are
being attacked by either other parents or the refs. I've
seen it go both ways out there. It's not pretty
in any situation. I think the regulations are just a

(49:47):
better option and a whole lot cheaper for the public.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Yeah, I'm with you, Brian. I think the regulation is
better way to go because Greg, we already have laws
on the books now.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
One listeners messaged in and said, I don't know that
I want some you know, club, you know, treating us
differently or making rules that would punish me and and
protect them. I think with the laws ought to just
generally relate to assault or anything, or battery or anything
like that, or just apply so. But I hear you.
If anything, the default would be to the rules of

(50:17):
the sport versus the the making a law about it all.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Right, back to the phones we go. Let's go to Dane,
who's en Roy tonight, wanting to weigh in on our
conversation here on the rod In Greg Show. Hi Dane,
how are you.

Speaker 9 (50:30):
Good?

Speaker 3 (50:30):
Good?

Speaker 7 (50:31):
Thanks for having me. Hey, I got a message for
Hughes real quick on that by you Peters know that. Yeah,
just remember that Jesus also was not accepted in his
own country or by his own people initially and for
the most part day.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Thank you, sir, Thank you, Sorry, rod Sorry Rodney. Jane's
on the side of angels. He knows he knows the score.
Thank you, sir, Thank you. So what do you say
about this? About these games?

Speaker 7 (51:07):
So I'm gonna echo what most of both kind of said.

Speaker 9 (51:10):
I believe that there, you know, I mean, if there's
not a law that covers threatening or insult, then let's
do one. But if there is one, I feel like
so the quote that I heard Representative Hawkins saying was
that the prosecutions don't go anywhere. I believe that the
problem is much like what we have at the border,

(51:31):
where there are laws that are not being enforced. So
in my opinion, it just has to get stiffer with
whoever controls the judges and the and the prosecutors that
they need to take that law seriously.

Speaker 7 (51:44):
And I hold it that's the bottom line for me.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Look, he's right danger because if you don't if you
don't enforce a lot, and you just keep making more
enhancements than everything else, the underlying laws aren't aren't being followed.
That's what you got to do it. It was Rudy
Giuliani in Times Square they called the broken windows theory.
You start, you start enforcing the law period smaller crime,
the worst ones don't come along. And so I think

(52:10):
that's what that's kind of the point. Yeah, let's go
to Jeff in Spanish fork. Jeff, thank you for holding.
Welcome to the Roden greg Show.

Speaker 11 (52:18):
Yeah. So huge in baseball, there has been years ago,
back in probably twenty years ago or so. Anyway, there
was a guy that didn't have any kids playing, didn't
have any grandkids playing. I believe he was probably in
his sixty so he may be passed by now, but anyway,

(52:41):
he would sit in the stance and just rag on
the umpire. It didn't matter who, didn't matter what team
moved on.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
It was just real.

Speaker 11 (52:52):
That's all he did was just rag on that umpire
and these are just little, you know, students hiring the game.
But anyway, that was my comment.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
You know what, Jeff brings up a good point where
that sometimes because I so my little niece plays junior
jazz and the refs for junior jazz or kids, what happens,
So when you talk about how you treat the referees
sometimes I had forgotten about this until our color just
mentioned it. Some of these refs or umpires are just
young kids. So then you have an adult coming after

(53:27):
a minor maybe you don't need the enhancement. Maybe that
in and of itself doesn't fly. You don't as an
adult go after, you know, kid, if they're the refor
the empire, I don't know. I'm I'm with our callers
and that I think that I'm not for affirmative action
for referees. I'm not for special protections or enhancements of

(53:47):
crimes if you are a referee. Because has been pointed
out and as I've seen myself, it can get inappropriate
or rowdy with different roles, be it a parent being
in too, being an athlete, being the empire of the
ref being the coach, you name it. There's all kinds
of drama that can erupt. And I think that the

(54:07):
law about you don't touch people, you don't threaten people,
it ought to be the same. Lady. Justice is blind
for a reason. Let those same laws apply to all
under Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
All right, back to the phones. Let's go to Nancy
in Riverton tonight listening to the Rod and Greg show.

Speaker 8 (54:22):
Hi Nancy, Hi there, thanks for having me on.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
You're welcome.

Speaker 8 (54:29):
Just real quick. You know, laws or laws, you get
all sites being talked about and this person did that,
and I don't know, just get some cameras up in
all the gyms. You've got constant footage that's being recorded.

Speaker 7 (54:46):
You know.

Speaker 8 (54:46):
If the refs are really bad, well then they get
critiqued during their reviews, and you know you're fired because
of the things that you've done or haven't done or
I don't know. Consequences. There's consequences for the refs, there's
consequences for those that break out fights and those that
want to prosecute them. And then there's footage to actually

(55:10):
look at. And I don't know, I don't I don't
go again, I don't go for the the making new laws,
just the laws that are out there for for communities
and people in general to bide by and and hopefully
if people know that everything's being recorded, you know, with

(55:33):
within a game and refs. Yeah, and refs realize that
they have their you know, their job at stake. If
they're playing favorite favoritism towards one team and out the other,
and they're they're actual really bad calls.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Yeah, and you're right, Greg, I had a grandson this
year who played basketball, and he's what eight years old. Yeah,
you know, they don't dribble, they travel, they do it all,
you know, and these and I would think they're high
school age kids are reffing and they let it go.
You know, they don't. They don't call it too tight,
and they shouldn't. But you're right. I mean, you know,

(56:12):
if you've got an adult out there, I mean, my
son coached high school football, you coach a little league football.
Some parents can really get after either the coaches or
the refs, and folks, it ain't worth it.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
So the only scenario where Nancy's idea or solution doesn't
work videotaping is we get the video replay of the
refs in the Kansas City Chiefs games, and these refs
are totally breaking the rules. They're totally helping the chiefs
and they never get called for it. They get it
to the fixes in when it comes to these refs
and the Kansas City Chiefs, and they have video and

(56:45):
you can see it in the replay and no consequence.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
You are really on them.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Oh it's it's it's soured me. It has soured me
from a sport I love. I am mad at those
refs for what they've done. And so even Nancy's good idea,
the video replay doesn't even stop people. They're they're still cheating.
They still cheat.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Wow. All right, more coming up on the Roden Greig
Show in Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine k
n RS. Citizen Hughes, you you have nothing more to
add to that? Yes, okay, would you?

Speaker 1 (57:16):
We've been talking about Represented Hawkins bill. Yes, I don't
know what the official title of it is, but I
will call it hate crimes for referees. And but and
I mean, I love, I love Represent Hawkins, a great,
great lawmaker, good, good public servant. But we've been talking
about this bill, and he'd want to see some enhancements

(57:36):
of penalties for officials of sporting events and how they're
treated by unruly fans, parents, whatnot. And we've really delved
into whether this is an appropriate role, whether there should
be laws that that would treat or handle the uh whatever.
Treatment of the official is more severely than any other

(57:56):
member of the public. So the listeners, I think I'm
picking up what they're putting down. I think we're all
seeing it similarly. There's some good stories and some good perspectives.
We've heard from some ex referees, but we've heard from parents,
We've heard from fans. I'd like to keep going with
our listeners and continue this topic since there are those
that would like to keep talking about it are opine.

(58:17):
So let's go to Doug. Doug, thank you for holding,
and welcome to the Rod and Greg Show. Sir, how
are you good? Thank you for again, thank you for holding.

Speaker 13 (58:29):
I think that we go into a dangerous territory when
we move away from justice being blind. If you commit
a crime, it shouldn't matter what color your skin is
or your victims skin is, what job you have or
what job your victim has. If you commit a crime,
you should be punished for that crime, and that punishment
should be equal, regardless of who you are or the victim.

(58:51):
Is if crimes deserve punishments, and those punishments need to
be fair, and it's not fair if you say that
hurting certain people is okay and hurting other people is
not okay.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Amen, they in all seriousness, I I really do think
that you're describing Lady justice. You know, being blind is
absolutely essential. And that's why even in the scenario that
was shared with where Roy said, look, I'm I'm a
reef and they're coming after me, and I shared the
the hypothetical, what if you get someone to someone intervenes

(59:26):
like they come after the ref and another parent interrupts
and says, hey, back off that ref they're making calls,
don't do anything, and then that the parent gets hit
or something. I think that the crime should be the
same whether the parent gots you know, socked in the eye,
or if the referee.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Yeah, dog, I agree with zero one zero, triple eight
five seven o eight zero one zero. As we continue
to take your phone calls on this today, you ever
a referee the game officiated.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
I'm purely a critic. I've never had I've never been
I've never been a referee. That's a it's a look,
it's a tough job. I mean, people are I once
heard that. And this doesn't this doesn't apply to NFL
referees at the moment, or the Kansas City Chiefs, but
and them as the outlier. I've been told if I
gave you, if you gave me a quarter every time
the referee or empire got it right, and I gave

(01:00:14):
you a dollar every time they got it wrong, the
person getting the quarter would win, would always make more
money because on the whole, referees are getting these calls right,
and there are some bad calls out there. But if
I gave you a quarter for every right call and
you gave me a buck for every bad call, I
would be giving you more money than you'd be giving me. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Yeah, And you know, and they they do need referees.
I mean they're begging at times, Craig for referees. You
know that in this My son, at one time, my
oldest son, who played football, was thinking about becoming an
NFL ref Oh wow, you know, you know he thought
about that idea. We had a friend by the name
of John Robinson. John at one time, I'm not sure

(01:00:51):
if he still Is was president of the David School Board,
but a longtime coach up at Davids High School, and
then he went into the NFL reffinge Wow, and for
several years up there, and you know, you talk about
it with John and you know, they show up on
I think they have to be in twenty four hours
ahead of the game and they do the game and
come home and he always enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
I heard it get paid a ton of money. It's
a seasonal deal.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
But I think that has changed now. It used to
be a seasonal but I think if you're an NFL ref,
you're on the payroll, all right. I think that may
have changed. I don't know that for sure, but that
may have changed. But you know, for people who are
thinking about getting into refereeing, please do because they do,
in fact need a lot of help. Back to the phones, huh, Greg,
let's go back.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Let's go back to the phones, and let's talk to
Brian from Bluffdale. Brian, Welcome to the Rodd and Greg Show.
What's say you, sir, Good evening, gentlemen. Don't we already
have laws in place that protect people from other people
who act in a bad behavior? Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Yeah, we sure do.

Speaker 7 (01:02:00):
Why are we creating new laws to go over the
top of the old laws that already exist.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
I think your question, I think your question is a
valid one. The answer that we receive from Representative John
Hawkins was that these referees are putting themselves or facing
the ire and maybe even the the I don't know,
violence or aggression of upset fans more often than the
everyday person. So they think he thinks there should be

(01:02:31):
some kind of upcharge if you're targeting a referee. Now,
don't beat up Brian, don't beat up the messenger. I'm
just telling you what he said. Okay.

Speaker 7 (01:02:41):
My solution would be, how about we have a little
bit more patrolling in some of these venues instead of
creating a new law. It just it just seems like
it's it's overkilled me.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Yeah, yeah, well, and I'm with you, Brian, And I
think Greg and I mentioned this earlier. The organizations that
put these games together, why not just develop some very
tough regulations like I indicated earlier. I think they've developed
in youth soccer. You say one thing to a referee,
and that referee has a right to kick you out.
If you're a parent Okay, you utter one word to

(01:03:17):
that referee. You can cheer for the kids all you want.
They don't encourage you to cheer, you know, to get
after the other team. You cheer for your children. You
do anything else, and you can get in trouble. And
maybe the organizations to do that. Maybe at the beginning
of every game there is a brief announcement made parents
behave yourselves. If not, you may get kicked out. Maybe

(01:03:37):
you need to do that, and maybe some schools already
do that. I'm not sure, but maybe they do remind
parents let's play fair and square. Well, you're laughing at
me over, No, I'm not laughing at you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
I just I recall a junior jazz game with my
niece where you went crazy. No I didn't. I was
actually just I'm an observer on this one where the
opposing player that I gave a heart. There's a hard
foul against another player, and the parent of the kid
that did the hard foul got really excited that their
kid knocked him and was cheering, cheering their child not not.

(01:04:10):
And boy did it make the kid that hit the
hardwood mad that that parent was mad that she that
that parent was cheering that her kid knocked the other
kid down, and then they began to cheer for their
kid to go back and guard that other Uh, that
other kid tougher.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
That's natural, right for parents.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Yeah, I know. I'm just That's one why I'm smiling.
I'm smiling because I'm thinking of that. You can even
get on the cheering side and start you know, they
get some people mad, even if you're just cheering for
your own kid.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
All right, let's go to David Orum tonight. As we
continued to take your phone calls on the Rod and
Greg show, Hi David, Hello, what's.

Speaker 14 (01:04:49):
The use I was just thinking that, oh, thank you.
The the existing laws, if they're not enough, it could
either should be the organization, the league, whatever the organization is,
could either if they can't, if they can't figure out
under existing laws how to control the behavior, and it's

(01:05:11):
become such such a problem, why can't they just have
the parents, you know, or whomever the the attenders that
those participating sign something or or or at least make
it clear that charges will be pressed. And if if
the if the laws aren't severe enough to control the

(01:05:31):
problem that are already existing, then maybe there does need
to be be it an increase of of severity in
the in the punishment, in the in the for the crimes.
But I think those should be equal across the board.
They shouldn't be specific to a ref or to an organization,

(01:05:51):
or to to a sport or whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Yeah, good point, David. I would agree with what you're
saying that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
And I think what there's I was tensing a common
amongst our listeners and our callers, and that is you
got to enforce if you if you start by why
way of strict enforcement, you're enforcing it early on, things
don't tend to cascade and get worse. Yeah, let's go
to John, John, Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 15 (01:06:19):
Yeah, my kid used the ski race all the way
growing up, and one of the parents of one of
the other kids was so over the top, borderline abusive
to their child. You know, you're a little bit.

Speaker 8 (01:06:36):
Late on the gate, you're doing this or you're doing that.

Speaker 15 (01:06:38):
That Eventually the refts had to disallow him. He was
not even allowed to come support his daughter on the
ski hill anymore. And I thought that was a good thing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Well, yeah, if the if the parents aren't paying there,
you know, not heating to the warnings ahead of time,
and they keep doing this, John, if they have every
right to gick that parent out, they don't show up anymore.

Speaker 15 (01:07:01):
Yes, exactly, and it should be in other sports as well.
I know you get Graham up there in the stand
screaming at the rest and she shouldn't be able to
come either.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Yeah, yeah, all right, all right, John, thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
So in the question if if you're new to the
new to our if you're just tuning in, we're just talking.
There was a we have had a representative John Hawkins
talk about a bill where he's looking for enhanced penalties
if a referee or an umpire of a sporting event
were to be uh to be harmed. And we've been
wondering if that's affirmative action for referees or if we

(01:07:38):
should be everyone should be held with the same laws.
Let's go to Doug Johnson and let's go to Doug
in Salt Lake City. Doug, Welcome to the Rodden Greg Show.

Speaker 16 (01:07:47):
Hey guys, how you doing good?

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Good good?

Speaker 7 (01:07:51):
Hey?

Speaker 16 (01:07:51):
So, I have six kids and each of us will
played some kind of athletic sport and one of my
favorite coaches just said that you know Koch's parents that
if you make a comment or a belligerent you know,
comment towards a coach or ref, then your child will
just sit out the rest of the game. And that
really made us respect to what he was trying to
coach us, because if we did, he would pull our

(01:08:12):
kid out and they'd set out the rest of the game.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
Doug, were you talked about the comments that could be made?

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
Could you boo.

Speaker 10 (01:08:19):
Or were you?

Speaker 16 (01:08:20):
I mean you could, you could heckle, and you know,
make your comments, but if it was rude or just
super belligerent, then that that would be the case for
your child.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Good well, he hadn't, well, Doug, I mean, because I
will boo. I won't even I won't even know I'm
doing it, but I will boo, or I will yell
if I see a bad call or if i'm I'll
even yell at my own niece if i'm if she's
playing and I'm you know, trying to I don't know.
I yell at games. What do I do? I yell?
I yell, but I don't. I don't want to be belligerent.
It's a kid's game. I know it, I know, and

(01:08:50):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Right, all right, all right, more more coming up. It
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Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
Of course there was an uproar last week after the
horrible midair collision. By the way, today we learned they
have now recovered all sixty seven bodies from that mid
air collision. But President Trump got a lot of criticism
for asking the nation to mourn with those families who've
lost their loved ones. But also he brought up the
issue of DEI and how it's impacted the Federal Aviation Administration,

(01:10:31):
especially air traffic controllers. Well, could the DEI uproar? Could
it be the left's fault? Joining us on our newsmaker
line to talk about that as our good friend Scott Moorefield.
He is a columnist at town Hall. Scott, thanks for
joining us tonight. Let's talk about this uproar. What do
you make of all this, Scott, Yeah, there's.

Speaker 10 (01:10:51):
Nothing wrong with that. If you want to keep the
skuys safe and you want people to get to their destination,
you would think that people want the very best in
those positions. But the only thing that really explains it
is that it's a religion. To these folks, it's a religion.
I mean, they have to if the outcome isn't what
they want, they have to adjust those outcomes.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
And that's the problem.

Speaker 10 (01:11:14):
So when you've got a situation where you know, if
you don't have enough of a certain color or whatever
they're looking for, then the assumption is automatically that something
nefarious is going on and they have to place those
in there. But when it's a position where lives are
at stake, then we have a problem because then people

(01:11:36):
start dying. If you do it in a college, it
doesn't matter, right, But when it comes to air traffic control,
when it comes to the military, things like that, you know,
critical positions, and you start trying to gain the system,
then that's when we have issues like what just happened.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
So without what the New York Times reported soon after
the this terrible crash and tragedy is that two hundred
eighty five of three hundred and thirteen air traffic control
facilities were understaffed. More than ninety percent of the country's
air traffic control facilities operate below of the recommended staffing levels.
They say, and it's scary that LaGuardia and JFK airports

(01:12:15):
are only at a forty percent capacity staffing capacity, So
they say that factually, there's no questioning this. This is
just a fact, and they're saying they're understaffed. What they
failed to mention is what you brought up, and that
there's one thousand would be air traffic controllers who sought
to be employed, who were rejected and have filed a
class action lawsuit saying, hey, we didn't meet their diversity

(01:12:39):
hiring targets, but we wanted a job and they turned
us away. So will we when will we ever see
the dots connected that If you're understaffed in your air
traffic control facilities and you're turning away ready applicants because
they're not meeting your your biographical measures or whatever they're doing,
how can this not be de I were talking about.

(01:13:01):
I mean, it seems that you can't have one without
the other. If you're understaffed and you have people suing
because they wanted to be hired and they weren't, doesn't
it doesn't it make the case?

Speaker 10 (01:13:11):
Yeah, it's it's open discrimination against white males, is what
it is.

Speaker 15 (01:13:16):
That's what the is.

Speaker 10 (01:13:17):
At the end of the day, if there's too many
white males in a particular field and they don't like that,
then they're going to discriminate against them openly, even to
the point of leaving the position unfilled. So that's the
crazy thing. Like Trump never said, oh, this pilot, it
was this pilot's fault. He never said that, and he

(01:13:40):
shouldn't say that. That's that wouldn't make sense. But when
you're saying, and that's what Jade Vance said, is these
positions are unfilled, it's understaffed because of the AH, then
you can trace the uh straight to something bad that
happens as a result of that. So, I mean, the
lead plaintiff in the suit score perfect on the test.

(01:14:02):
So why would you want that guy in that position?
It's it's just it's a religion.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
That's all it is, is a religion.

Speaker 10 (01:14:09):
I don't even know any other way to justify it
makes no stance.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
You know, I was wondering doing all of this over
the past few days since his tragedy took place. Where
is boy, wondered Pete Buddhajet, our Transportation secretary. This didn't
happen overnight these shortages have been going on for quite
some time. Why didn't he notice this and do something
about this? He's on his honeymoon still.

Speaker 7 (01:14:33):
Or something, or he was, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
Have you ever remembered any more transportation related disasters under
someone's watch than his? I don't understand it. Let me
ask you this when when Trump said When President Trump
said DEI policies have led air traffic controllers to be
a short staffed, the New York Times amazingly said that
the President says that with no evidence, even though they
themselves reported that they're all understaffed. I mean, I don't

(01:14:59):
know how. Again, I go back to this, you're understaffed
and you have people that can't get hired. So there
seems to be a correlation here. So my question is,
how does how do we how does the how do
the American people? And how does the f A A
correct such a wrong headed I know we have we're
getting rid of these d E DEI standards, but when

(01:15:21):
can they When can we as air traffic as travelers
feel that comfortable that that that will have fully staffed
traffic control facilities? When when do you think that could happen?

Speaker 10 (01:15:31):
First let's let's start by taking these thousand people and
giving them a job with back pay and settling this lawsuit.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
Right, that would be a good start.

Speaker 10 (01:15:43):
Let's just start doing that. But you've got to I
mean you have to I mean qualified regardless, and and
that's the only way to not question it, to have
people not question it. So you know, the correct of
the article is the you know, the left is like,
how dare you question whatever, like what we're doing because

(01:16:04):
they're a woman who's a pilot or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
How did you question that?

Speaker 10 (01:16:07):
Well, the only way to stop those questions is to
hire based on merit, and then you know that that
woman was hired based on merit and not on DA
or whatever category it is. So that's the only way
to stop the questions. If I if I had a
job and I said, well, I'm only hiring people with
eyebrow piercings and that's it. Nobody else is allowed to apply,

(01:16:30):
and then you know there's people in there with obret
prison they're going to assume that they got the job
because of the eyebrow piercing. I mean, it's just if
you take a certain traits, it's just bizarre.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
It's so bizarre. Do you see changes coming fairly quickly?
It's got no knowing, knowing that we have a new
administration and a new transportation secretary in place.

Speaker 10 (01:16:53):
Yeah, it's been the speed of lightning so far. I
think they're going to I think they're going completely, just
full fours with everything. I think they're trying to hit
him on every possible front as fast as they possibly
can go. So I would expect it to brea pretty
fast there. I just I don't think he knows he
has nothing to lose right now, and the people in

(01:17:14):
there have a sense of urgency, which is amazing to see.
This term, it's honestly, it's a whole other topic, but
it's better than it would have been if he would
have pulled out twenty twenty. This term is better, it's
it's yeah, this timeline is the one we need to
be on.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Yeah, Scott, I think both Greg and I agree with
you on that. Scott Moorefield Colin, it's the town hall
talking about the DEI uproar. It really is the fault
of the left, and we'll get into more of that
coming up here on the rod In Greg Show in
Utah's Talk Radio one oh five. Nine K and R,
Rod and Greg show, and you can follow us and
see what we're going to be talking about every day.

(01:17:51):
Kind of a kind of gives you a head up,
heads up, I should say.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
So, you know, I know our listeners, they are the
smartest listening audience and all the land, but they don't
have time to just comb the the news and as
Elon Musk exactly right. Yeah, so you might have heard
about Politico that's made the news.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
We've had their reporters on this show numerous times.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
Yes, And it turns out what's been learned today or
at least spoken about today with receipts, by the way,
not just suspicions that there's been quite a bit of
money maybe twenty four twenty to thirty million dollars of
subscriptions with my air quotes that the federal government has
been paying for subscriptions for everyone in the Biden administration
and from different bureaucrats. But USA d USA id ID

(01:18:36):
is also funding this. Well, Clay Travis posted today, don't
don't just talk about Politico. It looks like New York
Times fifty million bucks.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
Ah, that's something fifty mil.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
That spends right, Federal record show the US government has
sent New York Times over fifty million dollars since twenty
twenty one.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
In subscriptions, or do they say.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
Despite despite much lower payments and previous years it does not.
I'm assuming it's in the form of subscriptions.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
However, Apparently I want to go back to the political
story real quickly. Apparently they have this this service called
Political pro Yes, which is very expensive, but that give
you all the information on K Street lobbying. Who heads
up a department? Apparently people just can't look on the
internet for that themselves. They have to pay somebody to
do it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
Yeah, it's a nice directory for the for the swamp
to contact the people that if you're in government, you
know how to reach other government any So this is
for the swamp. The lobby is to be able to
contact government. But look, New York Times. You have the
Health Department of Health Human Services. They're cutting a check
for twenty seven mil for I guess subscriptions or whatever.
You've got natural National Science Foundation twenty mil. Even NASA,

(01:19:48):
the Pentagon, the DOJ chipped in. Largest single check was
four point one million in August of twenty four. What
exactly is all this tax payer money paying for I
would argue, it's paying for the good coverage of the left,
and it's and in its pursuit of its globalist, leftist agenda,
and that's what they're getting for their money. The question

(01:20:12):
now becomes, you know what's these these these newspapers and
that I'm naming they they haven't been making money. So
when you two, when you cut off the government gravy train,
what comes now?

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
What was the story earlier this year though, the Washington
Post losing millions and millions of dollars this year, all
these legacy media organizations GREG are losing. They're losing money,
and we thought they were just their readers are saying,
I don't need this bull crap. You're telling me that
I'm a racist, I'm a homophobe. I don't need you
telling me that anymore. I'm not going to subscribe and.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
Let me just I just want to share with our
audience here's a scam. If you're thinking, well, look, it's
a subscription, it's it's it's you know, it's a subscription
to news, and that might be the news are used to.
So why where's the scandal in that? The scandal? Is
this the amount they're paying for those subscriptions are a
little suspect in terms of the size or the dollar
amounts that they're justifying. But here's the other issue. Some

(01:21:09):
Washington politicians who can't receive so much by way of
only can receive so much by way of contributions, write books.
But guess who buys the books. You might have a union,
you might have a special interest group that says, may
we buy five hundred thousand of your books you wrote
because you are an incredible author, and so we'd like
to buy five hundred thousand dollars for your b That's

(01:21:31):
not even a campaign contribution. That's a personal wealth generator
for those that write books and get the special interest
to pay tons of money for them. Well, if you
have if you're a company that can say I have
subscriptions and say the word subscription and then you're given
tons and tons of money for that subscriptions, that's a

(01:21:53):
wealth generation. That's wealth generator right there.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
You know, this new information on the New York Times,
the amount of money they're getting is just new tonight.
I Mean, we heard about political earlier in the day,
but now we're I don't think we've got we are
far Greg, in my opinion, from getting to the bottom
of what has been going on with USAI D. I
just we're nowhere near the bottom of this thing. And

(01:22:17):
I just hope Greg, and I think we asked John
Daniel Davidson this a little bit earlier. I want to
know when the American people are going to be stunned,
because I am right now you are a lot of
people who track this, but in general, are the American
people Have they realized what has been going on here
that we've had a shadow government that refused to cooperate

(01:22:38):
with our legislators in Washington, spending money on the most
ridiculous things in the world and profiting and like you said, Greg,
we're out of money to help the people in North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
Oh, we ran out of money. Out of money they're
in North Carolina. You just got to live in the
cold because we just don't have any money. But they're
just throwing this around hand over. I'll tell you this,
I am shocked at the specificity of this, and I
do think you're right. I think we're going to get
more and more receipts e I N numbers. We're going
to be able to look at they open source a

(01:23:10):
lot of this so you can research it yourself. I
think that this is going to become more understood. There's
so much. But I am shocked that when we said
drain the swamp, it wasn't just changing faces or people.
We were actually getting down to the laundering of money
to a degree that I honestly didn't think was happening
like it is. And it's I don't know how there's

(01:23:30):
a Republican left and this honestly in this country, with
the way they were gaming this system against anything that
was right of center in America, I don't even know
how we're still sitting here.

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
Yeah, it's shocking to me. Even more shocking to me, Greg,
how can Democrats defend this? How I was Democrat? How
on earth can you say it's all Elon? You know,
their focus is on Elon Musk. He doesn't have the
authority to do this, He shouldn't be doing this. But
they aren't focusing on the waste that we've seen with
our taxi.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
It's like they don't know why why Trump got elected.
He had Elon with him. He called this shot. He
said this was coming. If he gets elected. This is
Elon's going to help me find out where all the
waste is. All this is accurate, so it's not a
surprise day when they say Elon's doing this, Well, you
campaigned on it, go figure, they told you. But for
them to not start pointing fingers too and going, oh,
look at that, that's terrible. Who did that? While they're

(01:24:23):
running for cover, you'd think that's what they do. Now
they're owning it, they're owning it. I am just shocked
that they aren't smart enough or or sinister enough to
try to play the parlor trick game and say, oh,
look at those bad democratics. That's not us, that's them. No, No,
they're out there chanting for them. They're out there saying

(01:24:43):
they're the they're the good guys. You guys are the bad
guys that don't like what they spend that money on.
We got the receipts. Sorry, you can't. You can't say
that they're just helping helping people with aids and and
and religious liberty around the world. Really really show it
can't find it, can't find that money? True?

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
All right? When we come back here in the Rod
and Greg Show, as we wrap up things tonight, a
columnist in USA Today is going after Donald Trump for
wanting to go to the super Bowl. We'll explain that
when the Rod and Gregg Show continues right here on
Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine k NRS.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
I'm Citizen Hughes and I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
Rod Ric Katt. The President wants to go to the
super Bowl this weekend down there in New Orleans.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
Good.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
Not sure why. Maybe he's there to intimidate the refs.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
I honestly make an executive order that these refs. If
you got video replay that these guys got it wrong
and you still let the play the call carry, he
needs to have them arrested. Yeah, yeah, well send a
nice yeah, send him.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
In this columnist with USA Today Today, Today Today, I
came across his column. He says, Donald Trump going to
the super Bowl is going to ruin one of America's
best moments. Oh why does it ruins it for that guy? Well, yeah,
that's one of the reasons. First of all, his increased security.
But everywhere the president goes there's increased security. Matter of fact,

(01:26:05):
he indicated, I'm not sure if this is true, but
this is the first time a president has gone to
the super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
Well that's dumb. If I was president, I go to
all the Super Bowls. I'd be going to every one
of them. Mind, I'd definitely be going.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
Yeah. Yeah, it's a security nightmare. But also to me,
they want the game to be the center of attention
on Donald Trump and not them. You know who's going
to get the center of attention of that darn game? Yeah,
Taylor Swift, Bengo, you're a Swift year. You can't wait.
In fact, we should have a bet. Okay, how many
times the cameras will turn to Taylor Swift and how

(01:26:37):
many times they'll show the President at the game.

Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
Well, I add I wouldn't take that back, because it's
going to be Taylor Swift's going to get way more
attention than the President on that broadcast.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
Yeah, this guy argues, his name is Mike Freeman, he's
a columnist there. He said, Trump wants to go to
get attention, but also to show dominance over a league
that once rejected him. He holds grudges the way Tom
Brady holds super Bowl records. It does matter that Trump
is a huge sports fan, which he is and has
attended super Bowls before, but not as president. Who cares

(01:27:11):
what matters is now now Trump stands for the opposite
of everything we love about the Super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (01:27:18):
What does that?

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
Insane?

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
What does that mean?

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
Actually, as I've said before you even read that, I'm
soured on the NFL right now. I think that it's
gotten ridiculously and so I don't even know what there
that guy's talking about. Is a sports writer.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
Yeah, sportswriter. Is a sports columnist at USA Today. What else?
He says? There's evidence that Trump has already had a
negative impact on the game. Not even there yet. Buddy
the Athletic, which is the New York Times sports page
now first reported that, for the first time since February
of twenty twenty one, the signage and racism won't be

(01:27:53):
included as a message in the back of the Super
Bowl end zones. The league will instead display the coat
the messages of che is love. It takes all of us.
So Trump apparently is responsible for getting the end racism
out of the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
How does sports guys get I don't even know how
it spreads into the sports columnists. It's so weird. Yeah,
to get a life, I'll tell you what that's like.
That Gordon Monson here in Utah, he's a sports guy,
and he's got Trump arrangements, I.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
Mean, and it goes on to talk about how Trump
is going to ruin thing. You know, this is the
time where America comes together. I'll make a prediction, Greg,
Are you ready for this one?

Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
Greg?

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
I think the super Bowl audience will be below last
year's audience. I think America has seen enough of the
Chiefs and the Eagles.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
Yeah, I saw. I'm not interested in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
But this guy says the President will ruin the super
Bowl because he's so divisive and he shouldn't go. Yeah,
I'm just I want that guy togain. Yeah what. Mike Freeman,
a columnist at the USA Today, said, this is what
Rush used to do. Remember, get great garbage, throw it away.

(01:29:07):
So that's what we're around.

Speaker 7 (01:29:08):
Five.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
That's a that's a garbage column, if if, if, if
we ever have one. And oh, by the way, Laura
Trump has a TV show.

Speaker 1 (01:29:17):
I heard that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
Yeah, she she is going to have a weekend show.
My guess is I think Will Caine used to have
a show, but now he's got a regular weekday show
on Fox and uh, she is now going to host
a weekend show on Fox News. So it'll be interesting
to see her take on this. Of course, at one
time she was mentioned as a possible senator from Florida,
replacing Marco. But that's gone by the way side. But

(01:29:40):
you'll see your weekends on Fox.

Speaker 1 (01:29:42):
Good all right?

Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
He yep, had on shoulders back. May God bless you
and your family. Thanks for joining us. We're back tomorrow
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