Travel Show from London; London Highlights, Why We Like River Cruising

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Episode Transcript

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Greetings and cheerio from jolly old England. It's the Travel show. I'm Larry
Gelwick's the Getaway Guru, and I'vegotten away to London, arriving just yesterday.
Now when I am on a remotebroadcast through the miracle of technology,
Carlos FDA, the Argentinian Gaucho,is back in studio in Salt Lake City

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where he belongs, and I amgallivanting around the world. And so,
Carlos, how are things back homein Salt Lake? I am a stuck
you're staring well. You know,we've been talking about this incredible England to
Iceland cruise tour for I don't knownine months, and finally it has come

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about. We arrived in London yesterdayand had a free day, went to
the West End, cut some shows, found my favorite Indian You know,
there are more Indian restaurants in Londonthan there are in Delhi or Bombay,
seriously, and so of course Ioverloaded on Chicken Tika Massala and today we

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have had an incredible full day citytour. Tomorrow we head down to Southampton.
You know, it's kind of toughto get the cruise ships up here
on the Thames River so that wecould board in London. So we have
a delightful drive through the countryside downto Southampton and our first stop on Monday

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will be Bruige, Belgium. Bruigeis course famous for lace making and rivals
Paris and Old town Prague as perhapsthe most beautiful city in all of Europe.
For there we'll go to we'll I'llbe Amsterdam and the canals, will
do a canal ride and Frank housethere the Old Dam Square. No I

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am not swearing Carlos, that's thename of the central plaza, the Piazza,
and it's a wonderful incredible cities aregreat, some just great restaurants here.
What I like in Amsterdam is theIndonesian restaurants. It's called a rice

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toffel, a rice table, andit's usually twenty six twenty seven courses.
They come on relatively small plates.But of course the Dutch colonized Indonesia and
they brought that influence back with them, so you have these Indonesian restaurants all
over Amsterdam. I'm looking forward tothat. And then we head up to

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Norway, both Bergen and Olison.But the capstone, the highlight The apex
of our visit to Norway will bethe Geringer Fiord. It's fourteen kilometers about
ten miles of Fiord, and ifI showed any of our listeners a picture
of the Geringer Fjord, you wouldinstantly recognize it. And the beauty is

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just beyond it. There's waterfalls andsloped mountains, mountain peaks, ice excuse
me, snow capped mountains still there. It's an incredible experience to go to
the gear and gear Fjord and thenwe're across the sea to Iceland. Will
make three stops, finally with anovernight in Rekovic and then home we come.

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It's an exciting group. We haveninety six of the Travel Show listeners
and for you at home, Ihope that you'll join Carlos and I on
one of our future Travel Show itineraries. Well a fun time. As I
mentioned Carlos that we arrived in Londonyesterday and I'll be talking about some of
the highlights with that. There's sometravel deals out there that are so good

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they can't wait till I get home. Celebrity cruises, now that's a really
good cruise line. Here's how Ikind of rate the cruises. If you
take Norwegian and cl Princess Royal Caribbean, I kind of put them in the
same category. I call them firstclass. They're good cruise lines. There's

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a lot of similarities. I liketheir newer ships with all the whistles and
bells as opposed to their older ships. Then you go to the premium cruising
that would be Holland America Celebrity.Holland America is a very good line,
kind of caters to an older clientele, and so you'd feel very comfortable there,

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Carlos I, of course, soit would be much too young for
Hey. The nice thing about HollandAmerica is when you're in the tropics,
the Caribbean, the South Pacific andit's sunny outside. With that older clientele,
you never have to worry about gettingan empty deck chair out by the
pool in the sun. Oh no, it's an observation. But look out

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for the walkers coming down the littleyo holda in the wheelchairs coming down the
hallway. Holland America is a reallyreally good line. Celebrity is in there
also. They just know how todo it right at celebrity cruises, especially
in the dining room well, CelebrityCruises has just come out with a California

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and Cabo flash sail. It's oneof the very best that I've seen.
And what it is is second guestsales free. They don't jack up the
price on the first one there.I mean, it's very reasonably priced.
But these would be a Pacific coast, like a one week Pacific Coast when

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a sailing round trip out of LAwould include La and then up to San
Francisco, down to Catalina Island toensnaut A, Xico and then back to
Los Angeles with some days that seealso Santa Barbara. And that's a one
week cruise. And the average onceyou've taken now this one week's four hundred

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and one dollars plus taxes. That'sthe per person for the first and second
once the second person goes free.I mean, think about that, Carlos
four hundred bucks. And the ratesdo vary by departure date. For a
one week cruise on a premier cruiseline. You pay that on food,
yeah, and your alcohol bill certainlygets that. Then they had that's a

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seven night, eight day, sevennight Pacific coast. The dates are in
October for this one October first,eighth, and fifteenth. Also in October,
November and December is a sixth nightCabo, San Lucas and San Diego
where you're sailing round trip. Excuseme, you sail out of La couple

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of days at sea, two fulldays in Cabbo. I love Cabbo.
Yes, it is such a funarea. It's another day at sea coming
back north and then disembarking in SanDiego. They've got dates in October,
November and early December. Catch this. The average cost rates do very by

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departure date two hundred and forty ninedollars plus taxes for a premier cruise line
for seven days, six nights La, San Diego, Cabo, some relaxing
days at sea. I mean,this is just sheer madness. Now,
the devil's always in the details.You have you have to book now through

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July sixth, subject to availability forsailings this fall the end of September,
although I didn't I didn't find anySeptember dates, but technically it's September twenty
fourth to December first, and it'ssomething you know. This is a special

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arrangement with Morris Columbus Travel and celebritycruise lines. That's a good deal.
It's one of the best. Now, the question that we're often asked,
Carlos is where can I travel outsidethe United States? I'm thinking of the

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forty fifty states without a passport.Well, you've got an Alaska Cruise,
Mexican Riviera, most of the Caribbeancruises. To cross the border into Canada
or Mexico by car or plane,you must have a passport. However,

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there's an exemption in the law thatif you go on a cruise ship,
if you sail from a U sport and come back to that very same
or another US port, you don'thave to have a passport. Now,
I do recommend that you always havea passport. If something were to happen
while you're outside the US, youcan't get and have to fly home.

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You can't fly home without a passport, but you don't have to do it.
You can also visit Puerto Rico,Guam, the US Virgin Islands.
These you fly to, the NorthernMariana Islands, and American Samoa. Interestingly,
those are all territories of the US. American Samoa is in the southern

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hemisphere. Puerto Rico US, VirginIslands, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands are
all in the Northern Hemisphere. Now, I do recommend that you take a
passport. I remember a family,it's very tragic, family of four and
a Mexican Riviera round trip out ofla that had a sixteen year old son

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and they know that none of themhad passports, and so they didn't want
to spend the money. You haveto have proof of citizenship like your birth
certificate and the government issued photo ID. They opted not to do. I
mean, what are the chances thatyou're going to have an event overseas well.
The boy had an appendicitis. Theyhad to take him off in Mazitlan,

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rush him to a hospital. Theydid the surgery there. The parents
are a little nervous about surgery inMazitlan, and they said get back to
the US as fast as you can. They didn't have passports. It took
him about a week to get uspassports from the embassy in Mexico. It's
just a good thing to have.Well, lots of fun here. I

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want to be talking to you aboutsome of the London highlights that we enjoyed
today. When we come you're listeningto the Travel Show on Talk Radio one
oh five nine k rs. Justlisten and you'll know. Welcome back to
the Travel Show. May I expressmy appreciation and for Carlos too, and

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for Morris Columbus Travel. We enjoyspending the weekend with you. Thank you
for tuning in every weekend at thistime on this very station to the Travel
Show. I'm Larry Gelwicks, thegetaway Guru, the Mahilaria of travel with
my dear friend for some forty years, Carlos Fida. I call him the

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Argentinian gaut show Carlos, Welcome tothe Travel Show. Thank you so very
very much, Larry. It isa pleasure to be and working with you.
We've had a lot of fun overthe years, haven't we Some great
story Some of them we can eventell, yees, some that I know
about you. I can't, that'sright because my wife might be listening to

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the show. Well, I'm inLondon today, arrived with a group of
Travel Show listeners. Just yesterday wecompleted a full city tour Bucking Palace and
the Tower of London, West End, Piccadilly Circus. London is just a
great city and Samuel Johnson made thecomment. Although this comment is usually attributed

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to Sir Winston Churchill, it actuallywas Samuel Johnson who said, when a
man is tired of London, heis tired of life. Now I mentioned
Piccadilly Circus. That is like abig roundabout right in the middle of the
city. It's not a Barnum andBailey circus. It's very, very different.
It dates back to Robert Bake sixteentwelve. He was a very wealthy

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man from the sale of piccadills.Now a piccadill was the stiff collar worn
by gentleman. His mansion was calledthe Piccadill House. Well, the circus
was the word they used for whatwe call today a roundabout, and so

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his house, his mansion, hisshops were in this area selling piccadills,
those stiff white collars, hence sellingat the circus. It became known as
Piccadilly Circus. London's a very diversecity. Carlos. Over three hundred languages

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are widely spoken in the city.Three hundred and some of them even speak
English. The five most commonly spokenlanguages. Number one is English number two.
This was a surprise. Mandarin,Chinese, who would have thought and

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back to my Indian restaurants, andthat's not Navajo, that's Bombay. Have
I got a deal for you isHindi and you'll be pleased with number four?
What is it Spanish? No,yes, Spanish. Well you've got
Spain and all these people coming andnumber five la friends, they say,

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I think that those that were trumpedthere was after they focused. I think
so. Do you remember last weekI was giving some of the history of
the Houses of Parliament and we talkedabout Big Ben, which everybody thinks is
the clock tower. No, BigBen is the bell inside the Elizabeth clock
Tower. We also mentioned, andI brought this up with the group,

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that is illegal to enter the Housesof Parliament wearing a suit of armor that
dates back to a statute in thirteenthirteen. Now you know the taxi drivers.
Traditionally it's a black car that nowwe're seeing red cars and white cars,
but those unique taxis that have allthe room in the world in the

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back of the taxi. It's veryinteresting. To become a licensed taxi d
driver in London is a very rigoroustest called the knowledge and one of the
elements of the knowledge is the drivermust memorize every street in London as they

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have a GPS now, but youknow Google mappers, they have to pass
the test to get their license.They must memorize where every street is.
Now, if you go to NewYork, the Big Apple, they have
a taxi test. Also you don'tbathe and you don't speak English, and
then you have you been in someof those taxis in New York? How

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can you tell where you're going?Yeah, that's right, just follow the
scent, as they say. Anyway, we're having a great time tomorrow morning.
After a wonderful English breakfast, whichis eggs and that back bacon,
baked beans, mushrooms and the tomatoesthey always fry the tomatoes. Just a

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wonderful bats tomato and some potatoes.We're headed down to Southampton to board the
Norwegian Prima. Now, this Supremais a state of the art ship.
There's nothing like it in the world. It's gonna be a lot of fun.
Well, you know, traveling isa lot of fun. And what

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we find is that words have differentmeanings all over the world. This is
kind of interesting. Now in herein London, I go to West End
to the theater. Kathy and Ilove the theater. But it's spelled t
e A t r E. Wherehere in America it's t E R in

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London, on England, the UKcolor C O L O you are,
and of course we are C lO R neighbor a bank check a neighbor.
Yes, the O U r onneighbor a bank check is c h
E q u e as opposed toC E c K. Now why is

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there a difference in theory we're speakingthe same language. Well, the British
kept a spelling of words that theyacquired and transposed from other languages, mainly
French and German, whereas the Americanspelling really can be traced back to a
mister Noah Webster. Think Webster's Dictionary, and the American spelling is more phonetic.

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Noah Webster was born in seventeen fiftyeight in the Western Reserve of Hartford.
It was part of the Colonies.Died in eighteen forty three in in
Hartford, an Etiquette, now partof the United States. He was a
writer and author, a textbook pioneer, and he was an English language by

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his own admission, an English languagespelling reformer. Now he wrote a series
of books. He was trained asa lawyer at Yale, but he wrote
a series of books, one ofthem Blue Back Speller. But he was
a great believer in American greatness andnationalism. Busy because he felt America,
even in its infancy, was superiorto Europe because of values, strong support

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of the revolution. Well, heput the dictionary together in eighteen o six
and changed the spelling. Greetings fromacross the Pond. I'm Larry Gelwick's the

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Getaway Guru with the Travel Show injolly old England. I'm in London for
this broadcast. Next week I'll bein Norway for the Travel Show, having
a great time with ninety six ofour Travel Show listeners. A couple of
days in London and then off toa cruise all over Europe and Iceland and

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Norway. We're having a great time. Hey, Carlos, You remember that
last week our dear friend Abbie Banell, a well known radio personality in Utah,
was on the show. Now shegrew up in England, the wee
village of Oudlam, and she everyyear has hosted a tour that includes England,

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Wales and Scotland. Yes, you'llsee London and you'll see the Tower
of London and all of that,but she takes you into the Cotswolds,
into the back country to her hometownof Oudlam. You'll get into Scotland,
the lake country in Edinburgh, toWales. If you've ever seen the movie

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How Green Was My Valley? Youthis row after row of houses from the
coal miners. It's a fantastic tourthis September. September thirteenth is the day
of departure, returning the twenty second. All the details at Morris Columbus dot
com. Morris Columbus dot com,click on Escorted Tours and click on Europe.

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And I should mention that the travelshow is sponsored by Morris Columbus Travel,
where you always travel more and payless and Norwegian Cruise Line, the
home of freestyle cruising, on whomI will be cruising tomorrow. Yes,
I'm in London. Carlos is backin studio in Salt Lake City. Now

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we were talking Carlos about words havedifferent meanings and different spellings. You know,
even the same word has a differentmeaning. For example, if I
ask for a biscuit back home,I may get some sausage gravy on the
time we think of a biscuit,you know, like a not a cookie,

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not a cookie, But that's whatit is. In England a biscuit
is a cookie. Same word,different meanings. Well, that's just true
in a lot of languages. Andso for example, if I go to
Mexico and I say ti caro ortiquo mucco, what's that mean in Mexico

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tikero? Who would I say thattoo? Well, you can say that
to a friend because it's like yourfriends, your teammates, neighbors, someone
at your church, congregation or atwork that you're really close to. So
I would say to Carlos, Carlos, bamigo, ticquero mucco, We've been
the best of friends for forty years. I could say to him tiquro.

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But if but in Mexico and thiketomeans love, there's another way to say,
I love you tamo. But whatis tamo has a different meaning?
Yes, it is, there isa different he means. It's a romantic
expression like mia sposa Cathy. Okay, But now Chile, which we will

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be on our tour, Carlos knowswhat's coming with this story. Uh,
we'll be in Chile on our Journeyto the Ends of the World, which
we'll be talking about later in theshow. They do do not use tiketo.
I could say tamo to my friendor to my wife. How do
they differentiate? How do they knowthe context? Well, that's very interesting,

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you know, because it could meananother thing. Well, it could
be Romanticamo could be friendship. Theyunderstand it by the context of who you're
speaking to and how you're saying.It's the same thing in Argentina in Mexico.

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Okay, quick quick story of howfunny this was. As you know,
I had the privilege of serving asthe um president of the California Fresno
mission and half or more of ourmissionaries were Spanish speaking, and I had
to resurrect my high school Spanish andget it going. But we had just

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finished a zone conference and uh,I was talking to one of the missionaries
from Mexico. He said, oh, President the Gelwicks, the keeto mucco,
you know, And I replied backto him, I love you too.
Well, an elder from Santiago,Chile walks up and he just get

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me a big hug and says PresidenteGelwicks, teyamo Muccio, and the eyes
on this Mexican elder got bug eyedbecause to him, the Chilean elder was
saying I love you with a romanticcontext, and he's thinking, like,
what's going on in this mission?You know? Well, then when I

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could see that his distress. Sowe explained the difference and we all had
the best laugh of the year aboutthe eighties Funny Team. Presidential words have
different meaning for in New Zealand.I was down in New Zealand in March
with a group of travel show listenersand you don't ask for ketchup, it's

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tomato sauce. Well, tomato sauce. Here is a can that you used
to make spaghetti sauce. But ifyou want ketchip it's tomato sauce. A
lot of fun with that, youknow. Let's see you and Karen are
sailing the Rhine this fall, aren'tyou? That's correct? In October?
And from where to where? FromAmsterdam all the way to Basel. You

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know I have done that cruise.In fact, I'll be doing it next
summer with a group of travel showlisteners. Yeah, I know. Why
why didn't you stick around and gowith me? No? I see you
every day, laren No. Actuallyyou signed it before we announced it,
and I don't know if I'll everforgive you. But that's another story for
another day. You'll be sailing fromAmsterdam to Basel, visiting the Netherlands,

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France, Germany and Switzerland. Andyou know, why is it, Carlos
that you and I and our wiveslove river cruising. First of all,
you know it's a comfortable cabin.You know, I have a special cabin.
You know that I've found. Ibought because I preferred to do the

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best for my wife. But thenice thing is that you have all these
excussions. You can go included,included, and then you want to bike,
you can bike. They are indifferent stops. You know, there
are bikes that you can do well. They have the bikes on board the
ship. Now in some stops theyhave organized a bike excursion from more strenuous

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to you and I that mirror theWalking Dead, okay, or you can
take it out on your own inany of the ports. What I love
about it is the small ship hasa very personalized service. Catch this this
was pre pandemic. Kathy and Ihad two groups on the Rhine Amsterdam to

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Basel and it happened to be thesame ship, and one was in July.
One was for the Christmas market inDecember and it was the same crew.
Well, Kathy likes to start everymeal with a diet coke with a
lime wedge. Okay, now wewent in July, we come back in
December. Don't say anything, butthe same waiter must have recognized us,

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and he, without even being asked, he brings Kathy a diet coke with
a lime. I love that's nevercrowded, you get to know people.
But I think the biggest, maybeone of the biggest, Easy on,
easy off, no metal detectors.You just walk on, walk off,
and the ship docks in the centerof town. You visit the small villages,

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the wee hamlets, the big cities, the countryside, all of this.
It explores the heart of Europe.If we're doing a European river cruise,
and the short scursions are all includedand designed for every activity level.
We did that Larry on the Nube. Remember yeah, we're on the Danube.
He was wonderful. It is wellfor our travel show listeners, and

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I will be hosting you on aRhine River cruise next year twenty twenty four
August first to the eighth, fromAmsterdam to Cologne, Rudesheim, Germany,
the Rhine Gorge. There's like thirtyfour castle, some of them over a
thousand years old, within a smallstretch of the river onto Strasbourg, Germany,

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and more stops in Germany and Basel. You know I mentioned Cologne or
in German Kuhn. It has aninteresting tradition Dominating the city is the Cologna
Kuhn Cathedral and it's a beautiful cathedralright in the center of town, right
on the river. And the traditionis that the three Wise Men are buried

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in a crypt at the back.You can visit the crypt and I don't
know if it's Larry Kurle and moobuts there. But the tradition is with
respect the three wise men, andI guess they must have taken the wrong
turn at Jericho and headed north andfound them found their way to Camel.

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I think we're in the wrong place, Jose. Anyway, it's so much
fun. And what's nice about thisis we have a group discount and if
you go on the am A website, they're having a sale. And I
believe it's thirty seven hundred dollars istheir lead cabin, the very same cabin
with US twenty nine five plus yourport taxes. And again all the short

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excursions are included twenty nine five andeach of the other cabins. Maybe you
want a balcony, they are discountedbelow what you could buy on your own.
The dates on this are August firstto the eighth. That are the
dates of the actual cruise. Soand we're gonna have a pre crew,

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maybe a couple of nights in Amsterdam. After the cruise, we're gonna have
a we're gonna go to Zurich andsee a little bit of Switzerland before we
come up. Now, you cantake that or not. The other one
i'd love to have you joined meon is the Christmas Market Cruise next year,
twenty twenty four. The dates areDecember fourth to the eleventh. And

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what's cool about this one is westart in Nuremberg, absolutely positively the best
Christmas market in all of Europe.You know those Christmas markets. The Chris
kindall Mark is a six hundred yeartradition where every town, village, big
city, we hamlet absolutely loses theirmind. Now I'm not a shopper.

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I detest shopping, but I hadto go buy a suitcase the last time
we did the Christmas market because Ibought gifts for all the kids and grandkids.
So the outdoor Christmas market, it'snot department store, heaven forbid,
it's outdoor kiosks. They're decorated withbows of evergreens. There's music, there's

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bands, there's food and there's drink, food and shopping everything that you can.
But it's a spirit of Christmas thatyou get in no other way.
Now, addition to the Christmas markets, in every stop, we see all
of the usual sightseeing travel show ontalk radio one oh five nine can ars.

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Just listen and you'll know welcome backto the travel show from jolly old
England. Yet it's Saturday night hereand right after the travel show we're going
out on the town. Kathy andI. We're here with a group of
ninety six travel show listeners. We'vespent a couple of days in London,
arriving on Thursday and driving down toSouthampton tomorrow to board the brand new,

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state of the art Norwegian Prima.I'm with my trustee friend and sidekick,
Carlos Feeda one of them. Seriously, Carlos, you're one of the best
men that I know, and you'reback in studio working so that I can
travel. I'll forever be grateful.Why did you do that to me?
Larry said, I'm your friend.Thank mcco. And in Chile, okay

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um. The travel show is sponsoredby NORWIDG and Cruise Line. They really
have the best cruise promotion that I'veseen in my forty plus years, and
that is a free air promotion plusa bunch of free other stuff. Here's
how the free air promotion works.The first person pays a discounted airfare.

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Now, I've seen some of thesepromos where the they jack up the price
of the first ticket, so theysay, well, the second person goes
free, but they've actually like doubledthe price. Carlos. What I have
found with NCL, and this isbuying the air from the NCL air department
through Morris Columbus Travel, is thatfor the first passenger, consistently, I've

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seen the airfare about what it isif you bought it on your own or
less, sometimes hundreds and hundreds ofdollars less than if you were to go
buy it from United Airlines. Ordelta or whatever. So the first person
like yourself will buy the ticket,the second person like me, goes free,

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including the taxes. Selenio, No, Carlos can argue with me,
but I got him on that one. No, feel free to speak of
course anyway. Then on top ofthat, they have a free at sea
promotion Carlos where it's a free unlimiteddrinks open bar, both alcohol or nonholic,

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what I call letted or unletted,usually about two hundred and fifty free
internet. You know, Internet oncruise ships is getting better. It's still
painfully slow and it is painfully expensive. If you don't buy a package,
you can be paying seventy five toninety cents a minute, and it's as

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it's going slow, you're just seeinglike a taxi meter running up the bill.
So you're gonna you're gonna get,you know a little over four hours
of internet, and you can buymore if you want. Then you get
free specialty dining that's like the Italianrestaurant. They have a steakhouse called Cagney
Steakhouse. It's a roots griss wannabe and they have other French Italian upscale

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dining, free shore excursions and onselect cruises. Select means not all of
them, the fourth, third,fourth, and in some cabins the fifth.
If it will commodate a fifth sharingyour cabin. Sale cruise absolutely free,

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you just pay the taxes. Soright, it's a really good promotion.
Contact Morris Columbus Travel for all thedetails, terms and conditions. Now
I mentioned that I'm headed back.The very last visit on our cruise is
Iceland, and I've been to Icelandthe number of times. Love it here.

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Greenland should have been called Iceland,and Iceland should have been named Greenland.
There's actually a story behind that.They wanted to keep people away,
the early Norwegian settlers, and sothey deliberately named what we call Iceland Iceland
instead of Greenland or fertile land oryou can grow anything here land. It

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is a country of mountains, ofalpine splendor, forest, rocky craigs,
all of these things. And Iremember some years ago Kathy and I just
the two of us were in didn'thave a group. The two of us
were in Iceland, and it wasthe month of October. This was all
pre pandemic, and so the excursionthat we took was a snowmobile, a

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two person snowmobile, and but Itell you Kathy can light that up when
she drives and out on a glacierand you have a guide, and I
think we had five or six snowmobiles, and you stay so far apart,
and they emphasize follow the leader,don't go veering off your own. You

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may hit a crevasse and drop athousand feet and its lights out for something
like that. So we're following itand a light snow begins to fall.
The snow, this is October,starts increasing and so the guide pulls us
up. We circle the wagons andwe're in a white out for about twenty

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minutes. It's not the dead ofwhin it's still fall, but it's snowing.
It's a complete white out, andit is so exciting, so much
fun. It passes, We getback on our snowmobiles and off we go.
One of the things I'm looking forwardto doing that in Iceland is snowmobiling
on a glacier. One of thereally exciting things is the number of waterfalls.

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They're overwhelming. If Eleanor Roosevelt wouldsee the waterfalls of Iceland, she
would say what she said when shefirst saw Iguasu Falls. Oh poor Niagara.
Well, it's gonna be a lotof fun. Hey, we're gonna

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be taking a break here. I'vegot to have a cup of tea.
Just kidding, but you know,we're having a great time here in London.
I guess I could have I dondrink tea, but it's like camemeal,
it's an herbal tea. Cheerio andwelcome to the Travel Show. I'm

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Larry Gelwicks and today I'm in London, England. My sidekick and dear friend,
Carlos Feet of the Argentinian Gaucho andall Things South America Latin America is
back in studio in Salt Lake City. As I mentioned, I'm with a
group of travel show listeners. Werein London tomorrow we board the beautiful Norwegian

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Prima. Carlos, we both havea love of Polynesia. What who is
it about the South Seas that absolutelycaptures us? I think that the landscape
and the people are the things thatmake a big difference to any any visitor.

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I just love Tahiti. The peopleare so nice, The landscape is
amazing, the mountains, the littleislands, the reefs, everything is amazing
and the people are the friendliest inthe world. You know, I'm often
asked, In fact, I wasasked at lunch today. Larry, You've
been everywhere, and by the way, you remember how I've always said that

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I used to count the countries thatI visited, and I stopped at a
hundred. Well, last weekend Idecided how many countries have I actually visited?
So the State Department and other unitswill you can get a list of
every country in the world. SoI printed it out and checked them off,
one hundred and thirteen countries. Whenwe go to South America, Larry,

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you will add at least three morecountries. Yes, I will.
And I love South America. Butthe Polynesia, you know, Cassie says,
I'm white on the outside and brownon the inside. I've always had
an affinity. I hired a tutorso that I could get conversational in Tongan.

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And you know, I was deeplyinvolved in rugby, which is the
national sport in all of the SouthPacific. But I have a love of
the South Pacific. Of my dearestfriends are Polynesian. And I think this
statement by Robert Louis Stevenson, whichhe wrote in July at eighteen eighty eight,

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whilst visiting the South Pacific. Heeventually died there. He died on
the island of Upolu in western Samo. I've been to his grave. Right
there where he's buried, on thetop of a mountain is his gravestone.
This is what Robert Louis Stevenson wroteJuly eighteen eighty eight. Quote. Few

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men who come to the islands leavethem. They grow gray where they alighted.
The palm shades and trade winds fanthem till they die, perhaps cherishing
to the last. The fancy ofa visit home, which is rarely made,
more rarely enjoyed, and yet morerarely repeated. No part of the

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world exerts the same attractive power uponthe visitor, And the task before me
is to communicate some sense of itsseduction. The first experience can never be
repeated. The first love, thefirst sunrise, the first south Sea island
are memories apart and touched a virginityof sense. Close quote I mentioned.

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I was asked a question today atlunchtime. Larry, you've been everywhere.
What's your favorite place? And Ihave to answer that with a question what's
the purpose of the trip. Ifthe purpose is for sheer, absolute,
overwhelming physical beauty that overloads the census. It's the South Seas, It's French

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Polynesia, Morea, Tahiti, Bora, Bora, Nukuheva, hiva Oa rightta,
all of these islands, the TuamotuArchipelago, all of these islands.
It is. You have to experienceit, and I think that is one
of the drawing powers. You know, I've spent so much of my life

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there in the South Seas. Whenmy oldest son was about sixteen seventeen,
rugged kid, quarterback and captain ofthe high school football team, played rugby
and he had a group of aboutsix friends. These six boys, including
my son, they were rugged boys. They all played football. They all

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played rugby. Rugby the game,not soccer, rugby, the game they
play in heaven by the way,speaking of soccer, MESSI yes, he's
coming to Miami, maybe the mostone, you know. He and Ronaldo
got to be the most famous soccerplayers. He is the star. He
is a living legend in Argentina andhe's coming to play in the rugby excuse

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me, the soccer league here,major league soccer in the United States when
it was announced the whole stadium inMiami was sold out season tickets. Yeah,
back to the South Seas. SoI would take them. We had
this little group we called the WhiteKnuckle Adventure Group and we would do fun

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things, kind of an adrenaline rush. No death wish. But I took
them to Samoa, which is stillthe most traditional of all the Polynesian islands.
Most of the people live in theopen sided folly. Now they were
placed a lot of the grass roofsor grass huts with corrugated iron because it

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wears better, but it's still anopen sided folly. Many of them have
the thatched grass on it. Allmeals are cooked over an open fire.
There's no indoor plumbing. There's noindoor because it's open sided. So I
made one of my dear friends downthere, Letti sail God rest is solely.
He passed away some years ago,and I visited his family shortly thereafter.

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They bury them in the front yard. That's the tradition fa Samoa,
the Simoan way. But I madearrangements, so we went down there and
I rented a house for about aweek like an airbnb. Before there was
Airbnb and we stayed there. Igot them acclimated. We're doing all the
fun stuff. But then with Letty, we made arrangements to billet or farm

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the boys out, one to afamily, to a nag local family,
and they lived with them for ohbetter part of a week. And I
had this big flatbed truck with sideson it that I would haul the boys
around in, you know, andthey're standing up and the winds blowing in

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their eyes. They're all, youknow, these muscled young men getting tans
and all the Simon girls were inlove with and I remember I could see
their confidence kind of retreating, andthis all sounded good. But I'm taking
them to Lettie and I are drivingthem to family and family in the village

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and different villages, and it's like, uh, you know, it's kind
of like my security is gone.And timidly they would get out, these
these you know, great athletes andthese strong boys, and they were timid
and they were kind of scared.But we assured them and the family were

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all prepared, you know. Andso I come back about a week later,
picked the boys up. Without exception. They wept as they left these
families, and the families wept andthey hugged each other, and there was
a lot of tikeero mucho going aroundthere. It was one of the great

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experiences of a lifetime to take theseboys down to a place that I'd visited
many, many times. My daughterEmily, some years later, was an
exchange student in Western Samoa for sixmonths, five six months whatever the semester
was right there, and she stilltalks about what an impact She was loved

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by these people, and she wasblonde and she's beautiful, and that certainly
added to the testoson going around theschool with the boys. But it's such
an incredible experience. Well, I'dlove to have you join me in the
South Seas. We have a SouthSeas odyssey next April twenty twenty four.

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The actual cruise dates are April tenthto the twenty second, and catch this
itinerary. We will start in FrenchPolynesia on the island of Tahiti, will
visit Morea properly pronounced Morea, onto Bora Bora, which James Mishner,
the famous author, said was thesingle most beautiful island in the world,

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and then onto Raiatea, will cruisethe Society islands up through the Tuamotu Archipelago
of islands, most of them uninhabited. We'll steer north, crossing the equator
and visit Hawaii, the Hawaiian Islands, Maui, Kawaii. We'll actually have
two days in Kawaii, the BigIsland. Yeah, we'll can see Volcano

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National Park and then onto Oahu andHonolulu. Now that is April tenth to
the twenty second. And guess whatthis is with Norwegian Cruise Line. So
we have a free air promotion onthis first person pays whatever the discounted airfare
is. And I will tell youSouth seas airfares traditionally are a bit higher

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than Asia or Europe because there's solittle competition. But yeah, you can
get that buy one, get onefree, all the other free stuff we
talked about. I'd love to haveyou join me. We'll be doing our
own shore excursions, our own activities. That's April tenth to the twenty second,
twenty twenty four. Where do youget the details Morris Columbus dot com.

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Morris Columbus dot com. Click onEscorted Tours on the homepage and then
click on South Pacific or excuse me, click on cruises and that's where the
South Pacific Cruise is listed. Hey, when we come back, Mi amigo,
Carlos, I want you to takeme to South America and a journey

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to the end to grow the reddiverse fight has been incredible. You're listening
to the Travel Show on Talk Radioone oh five nine k rs. Just
listen and you'll know B. M. Benitos a travel show. You're sewing
Larry Gelwicks, the Getaway Guru,Carlos Larry, I'm Larry Gelwicks, the

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Getaway Guru, and I am inLondon today, headed down to the coast
to Southampton tomorrow and Carlos feeds backin studio in Salt Lake City. We
welcome all of you to the TravelShow. You know, we're so fortunate,
We're so lucky. We're syndicated onnineteen stations throughout the Inner Mountain,
West, Texas and Florida, andwe welcome all of you. I want

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to remind you that the Travel Showhas brought to you courtesy of Morris Columbus
Travel, where you always travel moreand pay less. Check out their website
at Morris Columbus dot com, MorrisColumbus dot com and with the participation of
Norwegian Cruise Line, the home offreestyle cruising and Carlos. I am so

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excited to get on the Norwegian primitsstate of the art. There's no cruise
ship in the world that's like thisone. The reviews have been fantastic.
Last summer when it started sailing,I was actually invited to be a guest
of NCL and come on their inauguralcruise. I couldn't do it. I

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was with a group of travel showlisteners in Africa on those same dates.
So this is going to be alot of fun. Well, let's turn
our attention south of the border toLatin America. You know, we have
some incredibly wonderful Latin America tours inSouth America. I call it the undiscovered

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content because so many people say,oh, I've been to Mexico. I
mean, South America is so diverse. The cultures, the languages, the
cuisine, the geography is exciting.Every country has something different and exciting.
But we have a dilemma. Noteveryone can or actually wants to travel with

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one of our groups. And Ipromise you group travel is a great way
to go. You'll never feel likeyou're hurting sheep or something. There's a
lot of individual opportunity, but noteverybody can go on our group dates.
Carlos, you specialize not only onthe groups because you put them together,

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but on individual and family travel.And true, very true, Larry.
You know some people said, wellI want to do the Inca Trail and
the other trail and whatever in Patagonia. Well, I guess you can go
it. You can do it.But if you have to go with alone
with your friends, and it's thesame thing. Some people ask me how

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much do I have to pay ifI don't go with a group, and
I said, same thing. Itdoesn't very very similar, very similar,
because you have your guys all thetime. You have the people that pick
you up at the airport, takeyou to the hotel. Everything is pre
arranged. The only thing that youhave to do is put yourself in the

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right place at the right time,and on you go. The only thing
you have to worry about is showup at the right place at the right
time. That's cot, that's it. That is very true. And I
think that my specialty is that Iremember I started these things about forty five
years ago, and I did somany people. Missionary pick up individuals that
wanted to do something, especially inSouth America, or wanted to visit family

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or relatives. That is the thingthat I like to do very very much.
Now are you going to ask mewhat my phone number is? Why
not? Yeah? Because you haveit this week? Yeah, I have
it. I called myself like twentytimes, so now I know that it's
eight O one for eight three fivetwo one two. You can leave me

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a message or you can write mean email, and I will be very
happy to talk to you and togetherwe can arrange any idea or anything anything
in South America. Give me youremails at the letters see CEDA at Morris
Columbus dot com, that cf IDAat Morris Columbus dot com or eight oh

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one four eight three fifty two tencall and talk to Carlos about anything.
I gotta tell you, Carlos isthe smartest man on the planet in my
view, with anything in South America. Former university professor in Argentina, he

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Iss been recognized seriously and given awardsby various governments, including Peru for his
work in travel of tourism his knowledgethere. We have a lot of good
people at Morris Columbus that can helpyou with Latin America. But Carlos is

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in the league of his own andit's just astonishes me. Carlos the wealth
of knowledge. I've kind of said, you are to South America what dan
Hone is to the Holy Land,correct, and maybe what I am to
Polynesia. You know, a lotof fun there. So the other thing
that we're seeing an increase now iswith missionaries of the Church of Jesus Christ

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of Letter day Saints. When theyfinished their mission oftentime, parents want to
go pick them up or pick uptheir parents who are serving as a senior
couple. That is something that I'velost track of how many missionary family pickups

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you've done. I don't even knowhow many hillary over the years. I
have so many people going. Andthe interesting thing is these yes, the
missionary will law the area where heserved or she served, but there is
so much more in each location.Many people have I have seen families going
to Argentina to pick up a missionaryand then they say, okay, I

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offer them. I said, whydon't you stop in Peru's only cousco or
real legenate, all of these placesthat are so unique and you are just
a few hours away flying time andit's kind of like you're in the neighborhood.
Why not stop? Stop? Youknow, there's a website Missionary Pickup

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dot Com. Missionary pickup dot com. Whether you're planning to do all the
travel arrangements yourself or use the servicesof Morris Alumbus Travel. If you're planning
to fly or drive to pick upthat missionary, go to this website first.
The Eldis Church has some very strictrequirements of what you have to do

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in advance. Missionary pickup dot comand if we can help you, we
do missionary pickups around the world.Carlos specializes in Latin America. When we
come back, I want you totake us on a journey to the ends
of the world. I don't know, you may leave me there. This

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is the most unique, exciting SouthAmerican itiner are going to places that we've
never taken a group before. Allthat and more on the Travel Show.

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You're listening to the Travel Show.Thank you so much for joining us.
We appreciate sharing the weekend with youand we eat, drink and sleep travel.
I'm Larry Gelwicks, the Getaway Guru, and today I'm in London It's
Saturday evening here in the British Isles. I'm joined by Carlos Fida, not
Fido fa. I called you thatonce, Carlos Fido. Yes, yeah,

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I was going to do something,yes, right. It was unspeakable
what he was going to do onmy He thought I was a fire hydrant.
But that's another story for another CarlosFida not Fido. Back in studio
in Salt Lake City, and throughthe miracle of technology, I can be
in London, Carlos can be inSalt Lake City. One thing that we

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can't do when I'm remote is takeyour call in questions. I apologize for
that, but it is what itis. You can send them to info
at Morris Columbus dot com and they'llget passed on to me during the week.
I want to We were talking aboutLatin America and when was it?

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It was it was late last year. You and I were talking plotting again
our next adventure, and my goodness, you and I have had some travel
adventures and you came to me withthis itinerary. I looked at it and
I said, where did you comeup with this? This may be the

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most exciting South America itinerary I've everseen, and includes the usual. I
mean things that you would expect,Buenos Aires, Iguassu, falls that we
would expect. But then we getinto Patagonia Ushawayya. I'll let you have
the surprise island in there. Butthat was the genesis of Journey to the

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End of the World, and itreally is to the End of the World
March third to March twentieth of nextyear. Well even you know, you
talk about it about the magic,and I think you're right, You're very
right. But then there is amagic also going to Patagonia, So I

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that's more than a jacket. You'revery right, You're gonna buy that.
So Patagonia is a region part ofArgentina and Chile, part of Chile.
That's what it is. Also,you know, in this particular trip,
we go to Ushuaya, which isthe southernmost city in the world. You
know, the city itself isn't alot, yes, you know, it's

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it's not a dumpy little place.It's a very fun place. But it's
a small town. But it's thestepping off point. It's the entrance to
Tierra del Fuego and one of themost exciting train rides. You'll ever go
on the train to the Ends ofthe World that visits the Lapataia National Park.
But then there is something else navigatingthe Biggle Channel, which was named

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after their ship that Darwin Are navigatedfor five years around the world. Now
that's when he went to the Galapagosto do family history. That's right.
Well, I'll be a monkey's uncle, yes, that's right. So but
the other thing is that very interestingwe see we see on the navigation the
lighthouse at the end of the world, exactly the same thing as Jules Vernon

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described in his novel You know what'sexciting when you say the end of the
world, it literally is because thenext landfall, I think the Straits of
Magellan are in that place. Theships had the option of trying to go
through the straits, which was verydifficult. They have to tack back and
forth. The average ship may thirtyattempts to get through the Straits of Magellan

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before they got into the Pacific Ocean, and many of them were blown.
You got the winds just coming downoff the Andes Mountains and the ship is
sailing into the wind, and manyof the ships just turned around and went
back to Europe because they just ranout of everything. Thirty attempts was the
average. Or you go around theHorn and you run into a weather because

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the next landfall is Antarctica, andthat's that's cold. That's cold. That's
cold. Even folds up on theship, weights it down, and it
can be very treacherous. At certaintime of the year. You cannot break
the eyes, even with the modernships that we have now, you know,
it's very difficult. But that's whyit makes these particularly so exciting.

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Another thing that we do is wefly to Kalifate. It's a little town,
you know, by the Andes Mountainswith one of the majestic glaciers glacier
I will tell you the glaciers ofSouth America rival anything you'll see in Norway
or Alaska. Yeah, and youknow the fact that it drops into a

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lake not into the ocean. Thatmakes a big difference. Then we cross
the Andes to go to the PineNational Park. It's not the pain,
okays the somebody asks you about that. That park is a real pain in
the backside. So that is it. That is another one. But for

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me, the highlight it comes upis coming that is eastern island in the
middle of the Pacific Ocean. It'sPolynesia Hispanic, it's not Latin America,
but it's part of Chile Chi andthey speak Spanish, but they also have
their own language. The civilization inthis island, everybody tried to discover what

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happened there, how did they start? Nobody really knows very much about that.
So that will spend three days visitingthe item. Lcanos, I mean
he goes to Easter Island. Well, you can with Carlos and I.
Now the dates on this are Marchthird, that's when we leave the United
States, and March twentieth when youcome home. But we have an option

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at the end. Yeah, wehave an option to visit a Cousco.
In fact, the interesting thing isthat we fly from Santiago. We don't
have to go Tryingly. They havea NonStop flight because tradition you have to
change planes in Lima. You know, no offense to Lima. But there's
not much to see there. Now, there's a pre Columbian gold museum that's

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quite interesting down to the central Mercadoor Plaza, but a couple hours in
Lima you've seen everything that's right.But Anyway, we go NonStop to Cousco,
which is the gateway to Machu Picchu. What was the years the time
frame of machu Picchu, Well,when the Inca, the Incas were there.

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You know, it's over hundreds ofyears before they built matchup one of
the Incas, one of them,because remember the Inca. We can't call
the people the Incas. The Incawas the emperor, was the king that
built this majestic citadel on the topof the Andes. But we also see
the Sacred Valley. The Secred Valleyhas markets, typical markets. That's a

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small village where the Andes mountains justexplode and it's one of the most colorful
villages. And we have a wehave a wonderful five star hotel by the
river Urubamba. Well, you canget all the details on Journey to the
End of the World. Carlos andI will be your personal tourhust We're keeping
this to a relatively small group.We will be parked with passengers. We

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max out at about thirty Yeah,we max out the dates March third to
the twentieth, with the Peru optionafterwards. All the details at Morris Columbus
dot com. Morris Columbus dot com. Click on Escorted Tours and then click
on South America. Hey, here'sone from Quark Expeditions qu A r K

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and they are a leader in polaradventures both Antarctica during our winter summertime down
under and the Arctic region in oursummer that's up on the North Pole.
They have a promotion for uh,Greenland, Iceland, the Canadian Arctic,

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the Svalbard Island. Uh. They'rein Norway where kids sail free. Now,
these these are small ships, highquality. It's not a two ninety
nine Blue Light special. They are. They are pricy, they are wonderful,
they're worth everything. But they havea promotion for this year that children

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between the ages of eight and eighteencan sail absolutely free. It's one child
to one adult absolutely sail free.And here's the details. You got to
book it by the end of thismonth. And it's for the twenty twenty
three Arctic season which extends into September. That's a good you know, quark

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Y r K. It really is. Hey. Royal Caribbean Cruise Line is
a really good cruise line. They'vegot a nice promotion now that thirty percent
off all cruises. Everybody gets athirty percent discount. Then children twelve or

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an under sail absolutely free. Whensharing your cabin, you just pay the
taxes. Then Carlos it gets better. On top of the thirty percent off,
on top of the kid's sale free, they will give you up to
an additional discount of six hundred andfifty dollars per cabin. Now there's a

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range there, depends on how longyou're gone, where you're going, but
it's up to six hundred and fiftydollars. That really is you know,
I got an email from Dan Honetoday. He's still in Israel with one
of our Morris Columbus groups. Wehave incredibly good tour hosts, not just

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Dan. I guess I'm kind ofpartial him because he and I have been
the best of friends for fifty yearsliterally, and we've worked together all of
these years. But you look atall of the guides at Morris Columbus dot
com escorted tourist click on the HolyLand and it's a complete life changing event.

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Well, the office back in SaltLake has posted the twenty twenty four
dates for the Holy Land with DanHone, Joel Judd and the and many
others, the proctors, many ofthe others. You know. One of
my favorite places is the Temple mountin Jerusalem, the first Temple. There's

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two temples been built and prophecy isfor a third. The first temple was
built during the reign of King Davidby his son Solomon, completed in nine
to fifty seven BC, hence it'scalled Solomon's Temple. Well, of course,
it was destroyed during the captivity andthen the also the first temple was

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built to house the Ark of theCovenant, and then the second temple,
sometimes known as Herod's Temple, came. Herod, who is a wretched human
being, reconstructed the Jewish Holy Templefive to sixteen BC in it, but
it was destroyed then and Jerusalem destroyedin seventy eight. D Well, it's

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a top mountain Mariah, and itis sacred to Muslims, Christians and Jews.
The Muslims that mountain Mariah, wherethe dome of the Rock is the
Alaska Mosk, is believed where theprophet Muhammad ascended into heaven and then returned.
The Jews believe that this is thethird temple will be built, and

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an interesting prophecy on that one andto Christians a future temple at the Second
Coming or in that era, allwill be built. Well, we've got
lots more to talk about here.You're listening to the Travel Show on Talk
Radio one h five nine krs.Just listen and you'll know you're listening to

(01:09:58):
the Travel Show. I'm Larry Gelwicks, the get Away Guru, joined by
Carlos Fina, the Argentinian gaucho.Here on the Travel Show. I'm coming
to you today. I'm in Londonand Carlos is in studio back at headquarters
running the show in Salt Lake City. Carlos I was talking about the temple
mount I want to add just acouple of things about the temple. We

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mentioned the first temple, Solomon's Temple. The second temple called Herod. Herod
was a wretched human being, buthe did kind of reconstruct an upgrade with
a lot of fineries. The secondtemple originally well built by zerubabol expanded by
Herod the Great. It really markedby the return of the Jews to Jerusalem

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from the exile in Babylon about fivethirty eight BC. Now here's what's interesting
about Mountain Mariah. You have theDome of the Rock where Muslims believe that
the at Mohammed on a horse ascendedinto heaven and then came back. And
the rock is right there in themiddle of the Dome of the Rock you

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have, and it's the third mostsacred site in Islam, after Mecca and
Medina. And then you have righton the west side of the Temple mount
the so called Western Wall or WhalingWall. Now that was never part of
Herod's temple, but it would thinkof the wall around Temple Square, around

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the Salt Lake Temple, you know, the Temple Square. That's kind of
what it was. It was apart of the protective wall, and it's
all that remains. And they liketo pray there. Anybody can pray there,
you want to be respectful of Jewishbilities, but Christians anybody can pray
there. I pray there all thetime. And it's they like to go

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there because it's probably as close towhere the Holy of Holies was in the
Temple as they can. Yet nowthe Zionists Jews, well they all believe
that a temple, a third templewill be built. But the Zionist Jews
believe that temple will be built bythe Messiah. Some believe that he will

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build it and the temple will comedown pre fab built. Others believe the
Messiah will come and talking about Jewishbelief and that they may participate in the
building of it. Christians, mostChristians are not quite sure what's going to
happen. Yet, a temple willbe built during the era of the Second

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Coming of Christ. There on theMount of Olives, which is just you
have the temple mount down in thekid drawn Valley, the tomb of Absalon,
the son of David, and rightup to the Mount of Olives,
where the ascension took place and wherehis return will be. But Mount Mariah
is where Abraham brought Isaac. NowIsaac was not some infant. He was

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a cognitive may have been teen years, early twenties. We don't know what
age was. But he had tobe cognitive and aware. Because they get
to Mount Mariah and Isaac asked Abraham, well, where's the sacrifice, Where's

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the lamb, Where's the ram Andthat's where Abraham tells him he is the
sacrifice. Now, Abraham and Isaacwalked for three days, and I've just
tried to imagine the emotions that Abrahamwas going through when you know this is

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so foreign to him where he isown. Father tried to offer him as
a sacrifice, and human sacrifice wasanathema to Abraham. And now he is
commanded by God to offer his son. It was against everything that he believed
in, yet he was obedient.I've tried to imagine the emotions. We

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talk about the faith of Abraham,which was great. What about the faith
of Isaac in some of the apocryphalliterature, which is literature outside of the
Bible, but it's biblical in nature, scripts and scrolls, the Dead Sea
scrolls are you could call apocryphal inthe sense in some of the apocryphal literature,

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Isaac asks his father, once he'stold what's going on, to tie
him up so that in that momenthe does not his faith does not fail.
It's like burning the bridge behind you. It's like the conquistadores they burned

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their ships when they arrived in theNew World, so that you know we're
going to make home here. Oh, I don't remember being told that.
The soldiers said, I'm sure itwas in the fight print. But in
this apocryphal literature, Isaac asked tobe tied up so that he will not
fail. And it talks about theword it uses when translated is that Abraham's

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tears gushed forth and were splattering onthe bare chest of his son Isaac.
And just at that moment, that'swhen God intervened and there was a ram
in the thicket. So many excitingthings. I'd love to have you join
us on any of our Morris ColumbusHolyland tours. It's unlike any other tour

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that you will ever experience. Wehave great guides. I do accompany Dan
on usually one or two a year. Dan's a great guide, as all
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Escorted Tours and then click on HolyAnd just a reminder for those using the

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Salt Lake Airport, you can geta twenty percent discount. Go to the
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And here's an insider secret. Ifyou forget it, just tell them you
about the discount. Well that's allI have from London. I'll see you
next week in Norway. Here onthe Kean's returning online consultation with healthcare provider
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