Astros Sweep Marlins, Astros vs. Rangers Matchup, Wimbledon Semi Finals

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Say, okay, let's do this. Sewn Salisbury, the usc true's longtime
friend, Shawn Salisbury, Ryan Lima, go Lobos. This is the Sewan
Salisbury show. It is out ofthe hospital. You know, doesn't even

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have the gown on anymore. Youknow, you don't want to step out
of the hospital with the gown.You want to be back in your clothes
before you get out of the hospital. So they kicked ass on a fourteen
and under team. They that's aboutwho they be. Yeah, I mean,
you know they did. They tookcare of their business. I saw
the Lima on the dugout. Youknow the tattoos right now still skip Schumart
right, yea, My apologies,but yeah, boy, I'll tell you

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what if you it's one of thosethings that we've seen bad baseball around here,
and I know in recent memory ithasn't been that. But you can't
kind of help. But watch thatgame last night. If you're the Astros,
like Hayzus Sanchez out there in rightfield convert urging with two other fielders
and he drops the ball as he'strying to run in and make what should
have been a routine catch, andyou're just kind of like that was early

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twenty tens Astros baseball right there.Yeah, we're talking about that. Yes,
I said, you know this isreally they're they're beaten. And then
I refer to this on the showpretty regularly about when you play teams like
that, they're like a short parfive on the PGA tour. If you
want to win a tournament, yeah, you gotta birdie those and said times
egle them. Yeah, you cannotpar par five. And that would be

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the equivalent of losing to the MiamiMarlins or not sweeping a series. Now,
when you run into the team they'reabout to play, even though you're
better than them, they're the reigningWorld Series champs, they're capable of the
long ball, the team coming totown next to Rangers, or when you
run into the Phillies with the Dodgers. Right now, that's a two hundred
and twenty four yard par three.He's got water on the left, bunkers

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on the right, and you've gota small green that you got to hit
it to a Postione stamp. Yougot to somehow get out of that with
a par and get to the nexthole. That's when you play the Baltimore
Orioles the Phillies, the Dodgers whenyou're running into those guys, and really,
the Miami Marlins are in truth apar five that you and I can
eagle, you know what I'm saying. And they did it three days in

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a row. Wasn't their prettiest baseballat times, but they took care of
their business. And I don't liketo say they're pro baseball players. I
know they work hard, but intruth, in the baseball, in the
comps to baseball, this is abad team. And the Astros have seen
this about ten years ago, right, nine years ago, whatever it's been,
but it would have been so easy. All Star break, kid,

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coming back on the mound, you'vewon two of them. Even going into
this series, you know you're playingpretty dew were six and four on a
road, you've closed the gap totwo. Now Mariners won eleven and nothing.
Last night they hammered the Angel sothat you keep that, you know,
they keep that lead. But theAll Star Break, it's easy to
get oh handful of games. Letme think about vacation little early, right,

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say, vacation arrest and then yougo take care of your business with
three games to go. So forme, it's easy to get a little
I've been in these games that Iknow people call them trap games and sandwich
series or whatever. Right, butit is easy to say, Okay,
we got the bye week in football, you do this. We're playing a
team that's two and ten, sureor two and nine. We're in the

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first place in our division in Minnesota, just playing normal, and you kick
their ass. It's a two touchdownwin, right well, I mean,
gott guard against that. No,I mean, it's nothing else. It's
kind of like, you know,we got college football coming up, So
I use the college football example,your Alabama, your LSU, R Georgia,
any of these schools, you gotVanderbilt or you gots I don't know,
mississ in the first weekend, rightexactly. I mean, you know,

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this is kind of one of thosewhere you talk about trap games.
As you mentioned in football, AppalacheanState and Michigan absolutely well, A and
m knows about apple Ash State alltoo well, matter of fact, more
recent than Michigan does. Tenness,he knew about Georgia State. So I
mean, you know, and that'sthe thing is, you know much more
than the All Star break. It'swho's coming up? Yep. I mean,

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because this is in all intents andpurposes, a massive series, not
only for the Strows, because you'vegot a decent enough lead on the Rangers,
but you also have a team that'scoming in where last week we've got
Bob Nightingale going on Twitter saying,hey, you know, the Rangers might
be sellers. If they don't thinkthey're in this thing, why don't you

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push them to that? Pat?Yeah, and wouldn't it be a shame
to go into this series and losetwo of them? Right? And when
you could could extend your I mean, you can literally extend this thing three
games on a team right now thatyou're you're a better ball club, so
and you want to you don't wantto think about how well they've played.
They said, it's like Saturday ata golf tournament. You have to moving

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day Saturday right the month of Juneand early July has been moving six weeks.
Then get into that final. There'sno doubt. And they had that's
exactly be playing in the final group. And if not the final group,
at least one of the last twoor three goes where you're within striking districts
that you play. You shoot sixtyfour you can win the tournament, and
here they are within two games.And think about where you were feeling about

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them fifteen days ago, right,or twenty days ago or thirty days ago,
you're thinking, oh my gosh,let's win football season start and you
may still be thinking that part.But now the askers have a chance.
And wouldn't it be a sucky feeling? It would be It would be ass
to go in and play average baseballagainst this team, your rival four hours
down or up the road, andnow to be down four games right going

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into the even though you've played goodbaseball, be like a man when you
can just even if the Mariners sweeptheir next series, at least now there's
a there's a shot. There's thoseobjects in the mirror close than they appear
right in the side of your mirror. So it's and now under what under
eighty games to go, and thatthey're gonna go get a picture, right,
and maybe one of the cats thatyou see coming into town this week,

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who knows, I mean today,So I'm anxious to see how they
handle this. But they I knowit sounds crazy. They showed me something
these last three games for the simplereason who of us hasn't got into the
point where, come on minute,I got no shot to be me,
right, they got no shot tobe me. And then all of a
sudden, pitcher walks to in arow, one swing of the bat,

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three run home, and you're like, how did that happen? You lose
a game. Even if you'd havewon the series two to one, it
would have been a it's a bittersweetthing because you're like that that team has
no business playing with us, andthe Astros put a put a you know,
the proverbial foot on the throat atleast for these three. Well,
I mean, you know, it'sfunny you say that. I got a
buddy of mine, Russ Mitchell.Shout out to him. He is with

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College Football News and he's got afamous thing. You put your foot on
their throat and you choke them out. And that's what the Astros want to
try and do. So we willsee if they are able to do that.
Get started tonight, six o'clock.Astros on deck coming your way.
Matt Thomas is gonna be on Astroson deck with you, Hunter Brown and
a guy that last time out,I mean, we had seen where it

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is nothing but quality outings nothing butlittle to no production from other teams when
he's been on the mound. Thatwas not the case his last time up
in Minnesota, but showed some resolvein that start and he was able to
put together six innings, grind itout, kind of save your bullpen a
little bit. So that was nice. Andrew Heaney going for Bruce Bochie's clubs.
So it's gonna be a great startto the series. The Astros.

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Now you talked about it. Ofall the good things they've done, this
is where they can take a pageout of Demico Ryan's book. Remember what
Demiko Ryan's line was last year.You haven't come this far just to get
this far. That's got to beI think the motto inside the Astros clubhouse
is, hey, you've done alot of really good things. You're gonna
go into the All Star break abovefive hundred. That shouldn't be the goal.

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And they know it's not the goal. So now it was a goal
six weeks ago, it absolutely was. It absolutely was. But look it's
also too as well. I alwayslove how people, well we reached our
goal, Okay, well then getto the next one and then the next
one after that. Yeah, there'smore than one of them a goal.
The goal wasn't to play five hundredbaseball or better than five hundred by about
the All Star break when the seasonstarted. Now things shift, but you

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have to reevaluate and you also haveto adjust and adapt throughout the season.
That's what good back to football,that's what great football teams do in the
middle of a game. For me, and I know this may sound crazy,
because the Astras have been the kingof the division for the last seven
years, is in the last seventyplus games. If you stay within this

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lead or even close it down,the pressure of this division falls squarely on
the Mariners, not on you,because you've been without five starters. I'm
throwing JP France in there. Heknows you don't know when Tucker or Verlander
coming back. I hope you do, but you're right, well you don't.
Three weeks ago, if I'd havetold you Tucker wasn't going to play
before the All Star break on abruised shin. Right, you just said,

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You're asked the deeper that it's morethan a bruce well, that you
got to protect your players. Butthat's just a fact, right, I
mean, in my mind, Okay, Verlander's next sore once again. Whose
neck keeps them out of a soreneck. So the neck, whether it's
nerved out, whatever it is,it's not just a kink in the neck
that you slep wrong on a pillow. Sure, So we don't know with
those two great players when they're comingback. Mccullors isn't going to pitch this

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year. It's looking unlikely. Yes, if he does pitch, it ain't
going to be You're not going toget a lot of help from it.
If that's the case, because stant'sa bummer, because Lance would be it'd
be great to have him out there. So you start to go down.
He's still waiting on Garcia, thepressure of the Mariners in their mind seeing
all this. If I have toldthe Mariners or anybody at the beginning of

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this season, here's what's going tohappen a rookie manager. All these injuries,
Tucker's injury, Bregmann's slow start,I mean miserably slow starting, went
down, the litany of things thathappened, al to Van at times going
through a prolonged slump, No,no doubt. If I'd have told you
this and said here's what's going tohappen eighty five games into a season,

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whatever it is right around there then, and you're the other teams in baseball
and the Mariners you just said,we're running away and hiding, and they
got no shit. If they hitthe ball, they would have right,
that's exactly right. So with that, the pressure, even though it's the
Astros and the build up, youknow teams they've taken a step back with
injuries and the way they've played thisyear, they've started ramping up. With

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all that, there's still a seriesaway from being in the division, from
being the leader in the division.So with that, you're like, I
can't shake these guys. If you'rethe other teams in baseball, and even
though they're not the Phillies of theDodgers of the Orioles right now, you
do know what their history has beenthe last seven years. And if they

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get into the postseason, they're verydangerous and they they get into your head
because they're exhausting when their lineup's healthy. Pitchers are just like the eighth titter
can do this, the seventh titter. So with that, for me,
pressure now there's pressure on everybody,but in truth, our expectations lowered as
the season went on, because thisyear, because of all the injuries,

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well, and if it's only humannature, if you have the other team,
all that happened and they're still righthere and we've got the best staff.
If you're the Mariners in the division, all these things that go on
and the Astros still won't go away. So the pressure falls on the other
guys more than does if you're theAstros. In truth, you should be
free swinging. And it kind oflike it feels to me like they've cleared

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some clutter from their mind, likedude. And sometimes it's like when you're
sick. I've played a game whenyou're sick, you're not feeling well,
you take pressure off yourself and youactually some of the best games ever plays
when you're not feeling well sick thatday, you know the Jordan game against
Utah, right, and I canremember a game in my ways like man,
I don't know, man, canyou get through it? Or you're
hurt and you just for some reasonthere's a relaxation comes over your body and

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you play. If you can getthrough it, you play great. You
play great football or great baseball orgreat hoops. So the Astros should take
it look into the second half saying, well, they put pressure inside pressure.
It directly falls on the guys thatare sitting in front looking behind you,
because they're not used to be inthat position, because the Astros are
the ones who have dominated the divisionfor seven years. You know what it
is. It's a prize fight.It's it's it's Floyd maywe other who maybe

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his opponent might get a couple ofgood shots in, but then it's gonna
get to around and it's rare becausehe's so good defensively, right, but
it's gonna get to round seven eight, all right. In the corner they
tell him this is when you takeyour shot and then you hit your opponent,
and they're kind of like, oh, okay, he's still that guy.
When you throw your best shot andit doesn't knock the guy out,
yeah, that becomes a problem.No, it does. And then then

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the guy who's the guy throwing thebig blows and stuff, eventually he wears
himself out. And the question iscan Seattle's pitching staff continue to carry them
without dominant hitting throughout the rest ofthe season. That's a tease, Yeah,
that's a tease. We're going totalk about that as the show goes
along, as well as this AstrosRanger series upcoming. CJ Stroud a loser

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last night, we'll talk about that, as well as a surprise new member
of the media. Well that couldbe a lot of fun. We'll get
into all of these things and muchmore, plus you as well. See
Mike, I see Joe right there. If you want to weigh in on
the phone lines, you can SEBone three two one two five seven ninety.
He's Sean Salisbury. I'm Dan Matthews, Sean Salisbury show here on your

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TALF seven nine, Lance Book Colors. How about the performance your home for
Houston Astros base ball. Jeremy Paniahas a Soldier Boy what's it? Turned
my swag on as his batting songthat came out in two thousand and nine.
So next time I'm in the Astrosclubhouse if I run into JP three,
I'm gonna ask him, Hey,how old were you when that song

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came out? Well, we probablydo some math, I was gonna say.
I mean, he's what twenty fourto twenty five right now? So
he said that was nine, sotwenty nine would be twenty years So that's
fifteen years ago. Okay, sohe was like nine or ten, Okay,
I mean that's yeah, I mean, that's that's kind of a soldier
boy that says soldier sold ja soldjah. Yeah, you gotta go soldier

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boy. Yeah, soldier boy.Yeah, that's it. Hey, back
to uh, the sixteen out ofthe last twenty. Yeah, there was
a time when all they needed todo was win three in a row.
I remember day, Hey, wewant to roll off eight out of ten,
right, and it got to thepoint where they want tokay goes,
Yeah, we just need to getthree in a row. Even more simply
win serious, stop getting swept sixteenman, stop getting swept yep, sixteen

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out of twenty. And as hesaid, they're cable, and he said
he'd go they'd go two or threeof those type of things this year,
Well there's one, and does itcontinue sixteen out of twenty. I always
think back to remember when Colorado andClint Hurtle when they had to win like
twenty two or twenty six or somethingdown the stretch you get into the playoffs,
right, Astros last year, that'sexactly right, well five out of

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six to get in and win thetiebreaker when they just and they were horrible
at home late I mean basically inthe second half, but for the majority
of the year last year, sure, and they were they did not play
well against bad teams, especially late, and you're like, you're kidding me,
can't beat Kansas City, can't bebad teams, And then all of
a sudden, you can't beat Oaklandright at Kansas City and Oakland are the

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two that stick out. And thenyou go on the road and take care
of Seattle and take care of Arizona, one in which ended up in the
World series. As we've mentioned onthe show before. So listen, sixteen
to twenty jobs. Far from done, but man, it's impressive. You
kind of get lost and it forgetthat. Oh they've won this, they
just wept series. Oh that's right, there's won sixteen of their last twenty.

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If Kyle Tucker's missed most of those, if not all of them,
right, if it's even possible,Sean, the numbers get even better,
and I'll tell you about those ina couple of minutes after we talk with
Mike and Webster, who wants towait in hear Mike, what's going on?
Good morning fellas we're talking about.Yeah, the trade possibility is trying
to give a picture and all that. Guys, I'm wondering, do we

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have any chips at somebody else?What to get a number one or number
two starter? I mean, whatdo you guys think You're talking about?
Chips, meaning like assets to giveaway? Correct, Well, Mike, let
me ask you this, Well,you know it was depleted. You put
yourself in the general manager's role.You're with that, you're within a series

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of being in first place, right, I mean right, you've gotten to
that point. What's sixteen out oftwenty? We know they're not sellers.
They're gonna beers because as Dana brownIs you know, comes on the show
every Wednesday, has said that they'rea postseason team, but something's gonna have
to be done. They're gonna doeverything they can to get an arm without
mortgaging the future, but something maysting a little bit, which I asked
him on Wednesday. And so you'rein that position and they get the arm,

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then they become a World Series,you know type team. So I'll
ask you you'd be the GM.You tell me, you tell you tell
us what are you willing to giveup? And and and forget forget who
the arm is. Let's say it'sa top flight starter. So a top
three guy in a rotation, whatdo you what do you will? What
are you willing to give up?The one the one name that pops in

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my head is Okay as an asset. Okay, I got you. You're
going to the fire system, right, okay, right, or we got
McCormick, we got Myers kind ofgot a bit. Well, Tucker's out
so uh not so much of alog dawn on the outfield, and he's
he's untouchable. He's your best playeron your team. And let me go

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close. And I don't think Jakethe way Myers has played this year,
I I and they wanted him tosucceed, they did from the beginning season.
So I think McCormick would be theone to go before Myers. But
in truth, no offense to either, right, But they're not landing that
they if you you would never justtray, Hey, we'll give you Jake
Myers for for Kevin Gossman. They'renot making that move. So Mike,

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you get what I'm saying. Butas a piece, yes, yes,
because I think that now you knowwho people are going to call about is
low Perffedo. Sure that that's thatyou mentioned. You asked for names.
Kind of a guy who's up buthas been down and back up, who's
a really good player. You knowthey're going to inquire about him. So
the question is the insurance policy,What if Tucker leaves? Can he be

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a right fielder down the road intwenty twenty six. So the question that
there's they're not stockpiled full of ohmy gosh assets, And so if you're
a team that's going to give awaya frontline starter, i'd want to hold
the astros hass to say, I'mgonna go I want two or three of
the guy, and I'm going todeplete you even more. I don't think
they're going to give up the farmin the farm system for a frontline pitcher.

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But I do think they'd be willingto move if they got a top
three starter. I do think they'dbe willing. You mentioned a guy like
Leone. I do think they'd bewilling to move someone like that, and
a big league player as well.But I don't think they're going to deplete
it. And oh my gosh,what happens if we don't and we gave
up three more players. And here'sthe other part of his Here's the other
part of it as well, Mike, is you want club control if possible.

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You heard Dano on here talk aboutnot really interested in Reynolds. Well,
in that case, they're not goingto get a rental for three prospects,
but even more of the leverage ison the other team's side, where
they're like, all right, hey, let's see what they got in their
toy chest over there. All right, we like him, we like him,
we like him as well, butwe really like him. All right,
Well, but do you really likeour guy? Because that's what these
teams are going to do when itcomes to those discussions and the Randy Johnson

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rental is not out there that thattype of player is. There may be
some good ones. I mean,you look at willing to move Evaldi.
If Toronto really is sure, ifToronto gets to like Texas and say,
listen, this American League East isbrutal. We're willing to move Bassett or
Evaldi or who am I a burial? So if they're willing to do something

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like that. But you know,Mike, you make a good point.
I just and I talked to Danaevery single Wednesday, and I don't get
the feel that they want to depleteit. But I do get the sense
that they realize that they're they're goingto buy, but that they're not even
sure that the front line starters outthere. They're not going to give up
everything to go get a picture.But I would think more mid type starter

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that could be a three star thethird start of the fourth starter, and
I wouldn't be surprised if there's abullpen guy involved as well, So you
may get one or two pitchers.They're going to get a picture before the
trade deadline. Okay, two quickpoints A. Grady Tucker's untouchable to me.
You got to do whatever you canassign that kid got to. Secondly,
the Rangers, that would just bowlme over if they will to trade

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one of their starters to an intradivisional stile, Well, if they're if
they're given, if they're trading threeor four, you know, if they're
willing to give up three or fourpitchers like is rumored when Bob Knightingal had
that message earlier this week, thatwould tell you that one that they don't
believe that they're that they're a contenderthis year, that they see deeper into
it because they're around the team everyday. But you know how, you

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know how I would do it ifI was them, or flip the switch
if it was the Astros dealing withthem is if you can hurt the team
somewhere as it grows, right,you may not get them now but it,
Oh, you had to give upthree prospects to get Nate Yvaldi.
Yeah well, yeah, good,Thank goodness for you guys this year.
But man, it's gonna suck thenext couple of years because you got rid
of three assets. So that's howyou dig it. But yes, you're

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right, trading in the division againsta competitor like that is tough unless you
think you won the deal. Sure, that's how you do it, and
that's when you do it. Mike, Well, I mean the way you
win the deal is kind of likewhat me and you were talking about of.
You know, some people might saythe Astros don't world serious team right
now. The Rangers weren't a worldserious team last year. Some people even
wondered if they were going to beeven a playoff team last year. Once

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they got in and they went onthe road, they won, and Jordan
Montgomery pitched onreal and then they werelike, hey, we're here, and
they d Robert, they had ahandful of guys with career years. Sure,
Robert Flores on yesterday from MLB networkinga huge Astros fan, but a
fair baseball fan, right, absolutely, And Robert made a great point,
did you at any point in timelast year, when this in spring training,

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if you would have bet Astros,I mean Rangers Diamondbacks World Series with
the Rangers winning. Even as goodas Bruce Bochie is getting back into baseball,
we knew he was going to makea huge difference. Matter of fact,
I think he might have been asbig a difference there was in baseball.
He was no question. If you'dhave bet that at the beginning of
the year, now don't I haven'tseen you, you would have made yourself

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a lot of money, now alot of money. It's Joe Burrow winning
the Heisman years ago and putting upthose numbers. So there you go.
That would have been it. ButMike, you make a great I don't
think they're gonna give up a ton, but they're gonna, I believe something's
gonna sting for them to get aguy that is a difference maker on the

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mound. They're gonna have to dothat, all right. So I brought
up old narratives earlier. We're gonnatalk about that next, as well as
maybe a little bit of strategy thatkind of piggybacks off this conversation right here
of how Dana could operate we'll talkabout that much more as we continue to
roll along here on the Sean SalisburyShow. He's Sean, I'm Dan Triple
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(25:38):
forget the code Salisbury. Lived thatfor the Sean Salisbury Show continued at first
when you said, I said majorreach boy, I'll tell you what when.
But I like your style though.You know, I knew that the
Bill O'Brien era was gonna be justso corny and everything when I remembered seeing
footage of mini camp or OTA's andno stickers on the helmets, and it's

(26:02):
just kind of like, Dude,this isn't college, all right. You
don't have a bunch of guys.Oh you earn your way on this roster.
Yeah, you don't put your dameon your jersey until you have proven
yourself. Well, I'm here,I'm a team member. No, Well,
it's also too. Hey, buddy, guess what. Yeah, you
see this right here. Yeah,that's got the owner's name at the bottom
of it. It's called a paycheck. Yeah. So I'm a pro.
Yes, treat me like I'm apro. Yeah. If you want them

(26:23):
to play like a pro, treathim like one hundred. But you're right
though, So we have football tellmiddle of February. Correct your lips to
God's ears. Yep, your lipsto God's ears. Man, We're ready
to go. And I'm here forevery friggin second. And that's the thing
too, is you know, Igo to one of my favorite spots up
there in the Woodlands, and everysingle time I step in there, I'm
like, man, this is goingto be a fun place when it comes

(26:45):
to football season. So I can'twait. I can't wait. Let the
day drinking commence. We are gamedrinking, I mean early morning before college
game. Yeah, all the above. Hey, look the the tagline on
Space City Saturday, which of courseI'm a part of Every Saturday morning tend
to noon, especially when it's notpre empted by early college football by either

(27:07):
Texas or LSU. But in thiscase, it's got a tagline in there.
You can't drink all day if youdon't start right now. Well,
there you go, exactly, andtailgating airports. That's when you don't have
the person seen a little early.Huh hey, why don't you mind your
own business? Won't let me enjoymy bloody mirio? Yeah, thank you
and good night. That's it.Yeah, And I ain't gonna stop at
one. No. No, Asa matter of fact, I'll get two

(27:30):
more, you know. Would youlike me to have three more? That's
that's the way that we handle thesethings. Seven one, three, two,
one two five, seven ninety isthe number to get in. Astros
win last night, sixty three overthe Marlins. Sweep that series, by
the way, to you know,Sean, I saw this. This was
one of those old narratives that diehard. Last night before I'm about to
hit on on the microphone here instudio for the Astros tenth inning show.

(27:55):
MLB their official Twitter account pointing outthe Astros win six to three. All
that graphic. Three straight sweeps atMinute Made Park for the Astros. Three
straight. That's huge, huge,considering we did nothing but complain the last
two months of the season. Nowthey couldn't win at home last year nine

(28:17):
straight wins now for the Astros atMinute Made Park, So all of a
sudden the batter's eye, it's notthat it's not that much of a deal
anymore. I'm kind of sensing that. You know, it's kind of like
I said, old narratives die hardand now the Astros, well, they
can't lose at home, and theyliterally cannot lose at home, as their
record now at Minute Made Park thisseason is twenty seven in nineteen, so

(28:41):
the road has been a little bitmore of a struggle. They've played better
on the road, but they're twentytwo and twenty five on the road this
season, So I'll still live withthat. On the I mean, you'd
like that above five hundred and ifthey're going to get where they want to
go, that's going to have tohappen. Yes, but you have to
take care of your business at home. Got to protect your own for sure.
Got to throw that's curity cam up. Protect your own home. Man,

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No, you got to have that. You got to have your neighbors
watching out for you. Banelliah,Yeah, you got to have your Benelli.
That's it, you know, yougot to have that. Maybe your
Mossburg protecting the whole little home.Protection. That's your that that's your pitching
staff basically, or even you knowyou've got you've got the camera, door
bell right there. Can I helpyou? Oh yeah, I'm here for
this. Yeah, they're not here. I'm here. Yeah. Well hey,

(29:22):
it's not beware the dog, bewareof the human. Oh well,
I mean, you know, it'sit's the old sign we don't call nine
one one exactly. That's that's that'swhat the astroisks in my hand. That's
it. That's it. They haveto let they have to let the mariners
and everybody else know, like,hey, it's you know, you know
actually what it just reminded me of. It reminded me of the The Cheaters
Justice part in Casino where the secondguy after they bashed the guy's hand,

(29:48):
the nero tells them, now,don't forget to tell your friends what happens
that they mess around here kind ofit's it's it's a new day around here.
Is the Tangiers is closed for businessto to you cheats out there?
Do you just play the Tangier card. That's that, that's what sam Ace's
rostin. Yeah, I didn't.I didn't know the variety show he had
with the Sam Rostein dancers, likethe Tangiers. I think that's one of

(30:11):
the most I think that movie isactually underrated. It is great flick Kevin
Pollock bra when when Sam's about tostart juggling, Oh Ace, don't Ace,
Yeah, the Tangiers. What aphenomenal I digress. I mean,
you're exactly right, I mean everything. I mean, you know, you've
got Peshy doing what he is,you got Remo everybody, and then a

(30:36):
lot of good f bombs, alot of good f bombs in them.
Off. How about the part twowith uh, with whatever James Woods's character
was, when he's like, ohyou got hers, here, take mine
too, while you're at it,exactly and he's got his buddies out there
to let let Lester Diamond know,Hey, this this isn't the country club
in Beverly Hills. You mess aroundwith us, you mess around with a
lot of other people you don't wantto mess around with. And that's no

(31:00):
sure statement. Ever. Well hefound out. Yep, Ginger found out,
a lot of other people found out. So that's what the astros they're
trying to let everybody know. Guesswhat, let everybody know the crew is
back up, So Stro's take careof business. Take down the Marlins.
Now the Rangers come to town.Huge series coming up this weekend. I

(31:22):
know that we talked about this alittle bit. We can get into it
a little bit more. On theother side is Dana Brown, and you
know he's talked about it with you. He said at numerous times the scouts
I and that's part of what Ithink he and his staff are doing right
now. Of all right, ifwe're going to move guys, we need
to identify who were guys that wesee having a long term future here and

(31:44):
who are guys that we say,yeah, they could be players in this
league, but don't really see themhaving a spot here. I think that's
what's happening right now with the meetingsthat he's having. He's talked to you
about those meetings that they're trying totry to figure out even and if it
is a Bryce Matthews, you've gotJeremy Pina, You've got to get third
base, maybe figured out next season, But as of right now, you

(32:07):
look at it and you wonder,all right, what's his path to get
here? Is it necessarily going tobe a fit here or is it maybe
a fit somewhere else. I'm justthrowing out a name as a possibility because,
as you said, you're gonna haveto give to get in this scenario.
If you want to get something good, something's gonna go. That's gonna
hurt. Just that's usually the wayit is, and especially for this franchise,
They're just not gonna give something wayto you and give you carte blanche

(32:28):
to go run through the second halfof the season. It is not but
something I think it's the biggest guaranteeat the trade deadline, the Astros will
find a pitcher. Well, Idon't see how it's not. It's an
absolute necessity at this point and it'ssomething that has to happen. So we'll
get into that a little bit moreon the other side as well, Like
I said, many other things toget into. We got a new member

(32:50):
in the football media. This shouldbe fun to be able to talk about
and c J. Stroud also aloser last night. But we'll get into
some Texans too as the show goesalong. He Sean Salisbury, I'm Dan
Matthews, Triple E, Emmanuel Elmore. We're home of the Astros and the
Rockets. Sports Talk seven ninety SeanSalisbury show continues to continue. I thought

(33:14):
about that very line when I wascoming in of you know, just things
that people say, Oh, you'repreaching to the choir, And my thought
was n't isn't the preacher always preachingto the choir because the choir is part
of it and you're also part ofthe chorus, right, you know you
sing along in the hymndal, butat the choir. I'm trying to figure
it out, but doesn't the choiralso have the isn't the preacher is back

(33:38):
to the choir some of them,Yeah, some you'll have turnaround and preaching
to them all right, right,so you'll have some of them behind the
preacher of the priests back or youknow, off to the side, like
a lot of the churches I wentthrough there, off to the s side,
right, So I guess that's stilleven with microphones now you're doing this.
I mean, if I'm doing that, I'm not talking to you.
I'm just talking. So and whenyou go to church, you're like,

(33:59):
yeah, let's go where you're listeningto the preacher. So you know that's
the Lorenzo O'Neil my Buddy Low Neilfull back, a long time full st
Thomas. It never dies. It'sexactly right. So Low and I want
to say something, Hey, mansitting in the same church saying church people,
brother, Oh, I mean thatmeans, hey, we're we're throwing
throwing up our amens together. I'mon your page, man, let's go.

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You heard what Nick Saban said lastnight too about coaching at LSU,
where you know Jesse Jackson came andspoke to the team and he was like,
you guys are more powerful than mychurches. And he was like,
how can that be. You cansmell the bourbon at the fifty yard line.
But he was like, everybody's therefor a unified goal. Everybody is
on the same page there. Itis fact. So one of the great
sports is just like the paralleled life. Man, when the chain of of

(34:46):
people who get it know that right, when when the chain of selfishness or
unselfishness breaks and it's selfish, thatteam usually falls apart. It's the same
thing in society. So the parallelsare spot on. It's except the money
that the pros get maid compared tothe people who are working their asses.
Right, you learn later in lifetoo, especially. I mean, if

(35:07):
you played sports growing up that yes, there are things that do carry over.
And your coach is telling you,ah, if you're that way,
you're gonna be that way forever,and you're just kind of like, all
right, yeah, fine, whatever, and then that situation hits you in
your work life and you're like,damn, coach was right, yeah,
oh yeah. I mean, Ican't tell you how many coaches I've run
into that. At the time,I played for him, and I was
like, I hate that guy,and I remembered even one of them.

(35:30):
Ran to him a few years agoand I said, you know what,
probably out of all the guys Iever played for, I said, I
couldn't stand your ass. I couldnot stand you. But I said,
I get it now, I understandit. Here's the way it works.
Sure, they're hard on your toughlove and the people who made the outside
your family most and maybe that closefriend or too. Sure, I'm convinced,
well, I'm all speaking in mylife. Coaches. Let me ask

(35:52):
you this. Are there third gradeteachers you had that you don't remember?
Sure? Absolutely, sixth grades,eighth grade too, Yeah, I remember
what's her name? Again? Tellme a coach you have, you don't
remember their name. I pretty muchremember every single one I had. There
you go. So point is isthat there they probably and some negatives,
not not all positive, but youdo hope you know, yeah, but
they have probably had more impact inyour life because I consider coaches teachers as

(36:16):
well, sure in your life thanand and same with my mister Gustus and
Missus Wheeler. I can go throughyou know, mister Allstrom, I can
go through teachers as well. Soteachers and coach I'm kind of putting together.
But there are younger teachers. Iremember my fourth grade soccer coach probably
better than I do a little morewith my fourth grade teacher. At that
point in time, all as youwant to do is play it your buddies.

(36:37):
You go out to recess and doit. But you know, seventh
grade, junior high from about thattime on when you can go back and
remember, I think coaches impact myathletic director, Richard Disney, my head
coach, PAULM. Moyer, JeffCarloska, I mean I can go through
all of them. Sure, I'mconvinced outside of family that coaches and teachers
that depending on if you didn't playsports. That teacher that year, or

(36:58):
or two or three impact, oneway or negative or positively have impacted your
life more than anybody else in yourlife. Sure, I've got I've got
numerous ones that I can plaint andsome of them you probably why you drive
me friggin crazy. And yet whenit's all said and done, you realize,
man, I'm doing some of thesame things my coach did. Well,

(37:19):
yeah, that's the way it works. So it's the commercial the impact
which leads me to Monney Kiffin,And I'm glad you brought it up.
As Monni died at eighty four yearsold. We need a Hall of Fame.
Assistant coaches belong in Hall of Fames? Did I agree they do more
work during the year than a headcoach does. I'm sorry, not in
every situation. And the head coachhas earned the right now to delegate into
all that. That's why you getto be a head coach and make all

(37:40):
that money you have to. Buthow is Monti Kiffin not in the Hall
of Fame? Dick Lebou, TomMoore, Turner, that North Turner was
great offensivecording. Some were just meantto be assistant and with no question,
no question, those are names thataren't gonna get the Hall of Fame and
should Why forty fifty years in thein the game impacting and not just impacting

(38:06):
one team, impacting other teams andplayers. And go back talking about coaches.
Go back to most players and mostof them, don't you know Tom
Landry and Mike Tomlin and Chuck Noleand Bill Belichick, most players. When
you say coach, wise, whoimpacted you the most? You know what?
Most are gonna say an assistant coach, not the head usually because you're
around them more. You're in thesame room with him. It's like family.

(38:28):
You're around the Moore, you areyour family during the fall. Monti
Kiffin, Why I don't get it. Why is the Hall of Fame reserved
for just head coaches? It's notright. There's offensive line I mean Hudson
Howck with the Cowboys all those yearsas the guy the guys go talk to
the offensive lineman, Joe Averrazano.Then, no question about it. These

(38:49):
greatsch a special teams. Why theDevin Hesters of the world gave Chicago Bears
chance to get Super Bowl? Period? He was That's exactly right. So
why we right? Why we justreserve it for head coaches. Is and
the head coaches will tell you thesame thing I'm telling you. Minnie Kiffen
belongs in the Hall of Fame,and we've got to start allow us somehow,
some way. We got to geta domino effect of us of doing

(39:14):
everything we can to recognize the impact. We got writers in the Hall of
Fame and the writers wing of theHall of Fame and this sh But assistant
coaches don't belong in that same category. They're there than they do. You're
damn right they do. So.Monnie Kiffin a dear, a great coach,
human being. He was on ourstaff in Minnesota. I considered him

(39:35):
a great friend, but a coachfirst MANI was the life of the party,
great play designer. I've known hiskid. I was kid Lane,
because you know, I joke withLane about he invented the forward pass,
or he thinks he does. Iused to go watch Lane play high school
football with Moni when we were inMinnesota. We go watching Monte Kiffin.
A great guy, and I loveLane too. I love how brash and

(39:57):
fun Lane is. But Lane's abrilliant a brilliant football coach. But you
know where he got that DNA fromhis dad? You damn right he did.
And so I know it's probably atough day on Lane because I know
they had a very close relationship.I'm a miss monte Kiff and he,
you know, passed away and footballgot worse yesterday or this morning today,
and Monte Kiffin was impactful. Thinkabout the great players he impacted. Go

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asked Derek Brooks how much monte Kiffinmet him. Go ass Warren's sap,
John lynch, Ronde, Barbara.We can roll through the list of great
players and even the non stars.That's where you really go to the guy
who's a backup. That's what Ialways tell people. Just go to the
star that he impacted. Go talkto the backup and find out what kind
of coach, and then you'll know, oh, hell yeah, he impacted

(40:42):
me. The stars are always goingto say something that's my guy. Go
to the guy who didn't start andfind out what the coach is. So
Monnie Kiffin, God bless him andhis family and a great family and my
buddy Lane. But I was watchingLane play at seventeen years old, and
you know, it's a snotty nosekid and I mean that affectionately. Sitting
there with Montey, laughing and jokingin the stands at Bloomington in Bloomington,
Minnesota, watching his kid play andMani every day. Matter of fact,

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it hard to be around a guywho is more positive every day no matter
what. Energetic and positive and agreat play designer, one of the great
zone defensive coaches we've ever had.Well, I mean, I'll tell you
kind of to the point you're justtalking about right there, Genuine wins.
Genuine will always translate to your players, no matter your age. MONI didn't
know how not to be happy,enthusiastic and genuine. I think Mani would

(41:28):
have been so easy to see throughhad he been trying to b as you,
he just couldn't do it. Andhe's you know, he just was.
That's good football, DNA. Ifyou're laying Kiffin and God, God
bless his family, and I knowat times like this you're looking for peace
and understanding of why. But thegood life lived by Monnie Kiffin. I
talked with your good buddy Jason Brownonce. Of course, you know,

(41:50):
last chance to you for those ofyou who might not be as familiar with
Jason, but I remember, youknow, just talking with him about his
style and his line kind of ringstrue to what you're talkingalking about right now.
Of you don't fool these guys.If you're a phony, they'll find
that out and you'll be found outquickly. Though. There you can fool
a lot of people. There's agroup of people. You can't fool your
players. That's exactly right. They'llsee right through it, no question.

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I mean, it's it is.It's painful to watch too. I mean
either if you're in that room orif you're watching it from afar. But
it is definitely not fun to seethat, all right, Robert, Virginia,
Joe get to you guys on theother side, promise as well as
continue the Astros conversation and much muchmore as we continue to roll along here
our one in the books, Hereon the Sean Salisbury Show, ab E

(42:37):
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(42:57):
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let's do this. Sean Salisbury,the usc true longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury,
Ryan Lima, go Lobos. Thisis the Sewan Salisbury show. I

(43:24):
will I will throw those great restaurantin the South. It's called a waffle
house. You heard of it.I mean you know, I mean high
end, no Greece, all starspecial. See, that's the best part
of it as well. I rememberedonce no grease equal ugly bad breakfast,
right well, the best breakfast,right that's right. If you have no

(43:46):
grease in your breakfast, then that'sa that's a crappy ass. Got to
have the grease. So it wasalmost one of those. And I tell
my fiance this all the time.First time me and her went to her
first time. I'd been waffle housenumerous times, grew up on it with
my dad going to LSU games.And I remember she goes, this place
is kind of dirty. I lookedat her, I said, if this
is gonna work, don't ever saythat again, Like, don't ever say

(44:08):
that again, because it has character. This place has been built, this
place has served numerous the best restaurantson the planet. Yeah, Optics aren't
always good food. The optics don'teven matter. I could care less a
long when it go. That opticon my plate says hot and get my
belly. They get a passing scoreon the test. All right, fine,

(44:30):
let's go, let's go. AbsolutelyYeah, he's down there. He'll
be back next Friday. Good luckto his team and the old wood bat.
I think it's fourteen hunderd so especiallyto you know, you want that
all star special scrambled with cheese,hash brown, scattered, smothered, covered
and chunked. And then you gothe Pecano wall. Yeah, you're down
there. You were down there onthe ATL so you don't not here,

(44:52):
go exactly what the what's like?The Starbucks on every corner there you go
there, you go there and aplace that serves really good chicken sandwiches,
you know those places. If youcan't find one there, then quit,
take two weeks off and quit.You're not looking. That's right, you're
not looking. It's the oldest blindfoldeddriving again, you know. To mention

(45:13):
my fiance, she tells me allthe time that I man, look,
you know, like in the refrigeratoryou said it was in here, Where
is it? She'll walk up andgo it's right here, And I'm like,
oh, is that what it's called? A man? Look? Man,
look has men overlook those stuff?That's right you just quickly, you
know, I can't find the ketchup? You what are you talking about?
Where is it? And do youkeep the ketchup in the same spot?
So I keep my uh I gota little side yeah, side spots spot

(45:36):
all the time. Yeah, justso I don't man, look at it.
Sure feel me, dog, that'sit. I'm with him. So
it's the fruit. A lot oftimes that I just can't find. Oh,
man, well, what do youknow? The bacon? It's right
there. I'm sorry, you know, hey, it's not my fault.
It's just right there. Man,looks. What can I do? What's
the best food smelled? Tripoli?What's the best breck when you walk into
the crib? Let's say, whenI got exercise and you walk into the

(45:59):
crib. What's the best smell whenyou walk into a crib back into the
house. Is it bacon? Yes? Yes, bacon, yes, So
it's the bacon. It's the pork, yes, yes, along with all
that good fat. Yeah, freshlybrewed. And you you did you,
you did your own coffee. Youdidn't go buy it that fail where you

(46:20):
can smell the beans. That's apretty good start to your dad. Coffee,
beans and bacon. And don't giveme the bacon frying. It's ass
off, right, yes, noquestion. Yeah, but if you want
the smell, you got it.You gotta fry it. No, absolutely,
okay, crispy or chewy bacon crispy, crispy, overly crisp, So

(46:45):
it has to your bacon has tobreak. It's basically I would say the
bacon version of maybe tad more towardsmedium than medium rare. See I'm a
medium rare guy. Yeah, Iwant to get the juices. Gue.
If I'm not getting medium rare ona steak, then I'm not eating it
normally. Now normally gotta be gotto be bleeding a little bit. But

(47:05):
with bacon. See, here's whyI don't want my bacon to cry.
I want it to be crispy butstill bendable. Does that make sense?
Like when I put it on ablt, I want to bend a little
bit. I like to move itaround a little bit on the sundich.
I don't want it every part thecrack words. I overcook. Bacon has
moments, there's times and you wantit. But I need a little bit
of chew in mine with the crunchin the ocience. That makes sense.

(47:27):
No burnt bacon, there you go. Don't burn the bacon. That is
one of the biggest lessons you canlearn in life. As we continue to
roll along here on The Sean SalisburyShow, Dan Matthew, Sean Salisbury,
Triple E, Emmanuel Elmore, let'shead up to Virginia. Robert wants to
weigh in here on Sports Talk seventyninety Robert, what's going on? First,
Triple A. Man, I lovetalking to that guy in the morning.

(47:49):
When I call he so he's thebest, so nice, he's the
best. He's he's so nice.I'm always happy. It's a good man.
That's not fake. That's him heis. I do want to tell
them I was in Virginia. I'mback. I was working in Virginia.
I'm back in Houston. I gothere just in time for the hurricane.
But speaking of the hurricane, Ireally appreciate y'all coming in like y'all kept

(48:14):
saying, giving some normalcy during thehurricane. It's thank you, brother.
We appreciate you. I'm just goingto work and appreciate it. And Dan,
I know you were all over theplace doing a lot of stuff,
so pretty cool. Are you talkingabout coaches this morning? And uh,
Monnie Kiffin passing away? I knowreading some articles he was the Tampa two

(48:35):
defense came up with that. Wasthat something you knew well, Shawn?
Yeah, I mean MONI instilled inon our instilled in on our team when
we when I was in Minnesota,and you know, it's an it's the
normal. Cover two has been ait's like throwing a curl route or a
slant route. That's been in footballforever. But you got to be really
good in your front seven people,because can't cover two is not conducive to

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stop in the run. When ateam plays cover too, you should be
if you've got a good run game, you should destroy him because they keep
a safety back and not down inthe box. When teams when we have
what we call a check with me, Robert, and I'm not trying going
to get too deep into it,but just to give you an idea,
when we have a run game,a check with me, which will be
run to a pass right or passto a run, they come up and
say check with me seven forty twooption, week, twenty eight toss or

(49:23):
twenty six flip. Go to theline of scrimmage. If they're in cover
two, you run it, especiallyif your offensive line is good. Because
safety out the box, we shoulddominate you in the run all the time.
Corners don't like to make tackles,so you rule them out. So
that interior five in truth with theyou know the guys in the box of
four, the three linebackers interior seven, should I say that are playing in

(49:43):
that box got to be full grownass men, and Tampa had him.
We had them in Minnesota. ChrisDolman, Keith Millard, John Randall,
Scott Studwell. We were four ofthose dudes were Hall of famers, right,
We were frigging loaded, and thathell, you've got to have Derreck
Brooks, Warren Sapp, Booger,McFarland, Simmi, and Rice Barber loaded.

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Well, what happens is the covertwo while it's his own, you've
got to be Studley there and you'rejust taking away the big play on the
outside because he got safety help overthe top of your safety doesn't come down.
Well, you're going to talk aboutthe old Pittsburgh Steelers bringing pull A
Malu down or Ronnie Lott when hewas a safety in San Franchanczo. Right,
what they did with that is thatthey you have to have a great
middle linebacker, and who played middlelinebacker for Tampa, Derek Brooks, who

(50:28):
can take away that middle of thefield that's open yet still be a stud
in the run game. You gottabe athletic and can run and explosive,
and then you got to have thoseguys inside. So what Monni did was
take Cover two and perfect it morewhere the corners at times played a little
more off. They did a fewthey had some adjustments, but when you
got Lynch, I mean, Monitook great players and made them even better

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by putting them in positions because it'shard to win. That used to be
a staple defense in the NFL.Now Cover two becomes a change up defense.
If you're playing against a good rungame and you decide you want to
play Cover two, you're going toget gashed by most good run games.
So yeah, it's a defense.Now it's become changing. But Mani and
his group made it, made ita staple defense to where it was their

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go to and they had great guysto execute it. Don't blitz much out
of it, but they added thecover two out of that slot where Rendez
Barbara became one of the great slotblitzers of all time to get into the
run game from the secondary position becausethat slot guy's not too far removed from
the line of scrimmage. So yeah, he was special Robert, special coach,
special human men. Well, Igot to tell you a couple of

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things. I grew up playing alot of sports, and I lasted about
twelve seconds in that conversation about theunderstanding, and that was a basic one.
There you go. That's right.We never stopped learning, Robert.
Another thing is your passion. Ilove it. So I wanted to hit
on two things real quick. Iknow I don't have all day, but

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high school coach, so basically offthe fact that I'm sure Kiffin affected a
lot of people, not only withhis h his tech tech uh his coaching,
you know, the technical side,but his personality and the way to
way to reach people. I hada coach in high school. Dan,
you were saying, Uh, you'reone of the coaches that you couldn't stand.

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Probably you look back, maybe hadthe most impact I had. One
name was His name was David Tidwall. I don't call him David, but
coach Tidwell. I still talk tohim today. Coach in Belton and we
this was a funny story. Wewe played at Belton High School and we
had a pretty good baseball team andwe go up to Waco High and should
have beat him in a double headeron Saturday, and we got beat And

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on the way to the bus,we usually, you know, get our
water burger and then get on thebus. And by the way, waterburger
is better than in and out,and we he he doesn't let us grab
our water burger. Then we siton the bus, can't talk. Then
he throws our water burger at us, and then he tells us we can't
eat it, and uh and hewas just he but but the guy is

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it was just h He's an unbelievablecoach. He's in the Hall of Fame
today and I look back, he'sone of the coaches I remember, and
that just tells me he was justan awesome coach. I just wanted to
say his name because he means alot to me. And then also to
come out of there. I'm gonnaI've been on this bandwagon all year,

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but a spota nobody's really talking abouthim right now, and I think that's
a good thing. He's not thekind of guy that's going to be in
the once. I don't think hehas the need to be in the headlines.
But I think he's doing a Itseems to me again he's doing a
fantastic job, and he's having tomanage through a lot of a lot of
injuries and managed through a disappointing start, managing the brow, managing a lot

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of things. We don't know what'sgoing on in the locker room, but
just wanted to maybe hear y'alls takeon that, and again appreciate y'all coming
in during the hurricane, and y'alltripoli. Keep these guys in line.
Y'all take care of Robert. Ilove good stories about high school coaches and
you know what that passion you throwa burger at somebody, you're messing with

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their waterburger. But I mean,wow, especially just love their kids.
And you can tell he impacted Roberttoo. Sure well, I mean it's
also too I mean lessons that youcan learn. We'll get into on the
other side, and some that Robertjust brought up. I think is a
really good point. Uh. Felipesee right there as well. We'll get
into all of that much more aswe continue to roll along here on the
Seawan Salisbury Show. He's Shawan Salisburyon Dan Matthews, Triple E, Emmanuel

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Elmore here on your Home of theAstros in the Rockets Sports Talk seven ninety.
There's a lot happening and he's gota lot to say about it.
Sean Salisbury continues on seven nineteen.All right, Sean, what are you
hearing out there now? The Salsbury'stakeout? Salsbury Takeout on the Sean Salisbury

(54:52):
Show. It is the Seawan SalisburyShow. Damn Matthews Triple e. Sean
here on You're Home of the Astrosand the Rockets Sports Talk seven ninety.

(55:13):
Real quick, Fleipey wants to weighin here on the Seawan Salisbury Show.
Felipe, what's up, buddy?Felipe there, Buddy, just triple he
gotta pull him up? Or hey, hey, what's up buddy? Seven
one? Come on, Felipe,let's go, Buddy, let's go.
Good morning, guys, Thank youfor names for Brian. You know,

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I think you're a little better betterhost than he is. Oh, come
on, come on, everybody.We can't, we can't. There's nobody.
He's not here to defend himself,but I'm here to defend my partner.
You need Brian Bray, you youneed Taylor Scott, you need all
the good arms, all the goodbats if you're gonna win. Yeah,
we don't do that here. Wegotta. He's a great host, and

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Dan's great to come in and dohis thing. Dan's great too, So
there you go. That's my guy. Yeah, I love both of them.
Man, just gotta take a littlejab of my federal U great frame
guy. You know, he hear, he'll, he'll, he'll get a
good laugh out of it. What'sup, man, what's on your mind?
No, well, let's at thegame. Enjoyed the game, guys.
It great, But you know,I still feel uh like, you

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know, people are just I don'tknow, I think the game is just
didn't feel like a good game vibe. And I know a lot of families
were out, you know, theywere getting out the tickets for five bucks
and stuff like that. But Ifeel like that ashes are a good solace
away from everything that's going on asfar as like not having uh you know,
the lights going out, hurricane andstuff like that. I just want
to you know, everybody's just stayingthere and keep cool. You know.

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You know a lot of the neighborsare myre don't have lights still and we
don't either, and uh, youknow, ashes are a good good way
to escape from that darkness. Youknow, quote are quotes. But another
thing you're talking about coaches and everythinglike that. I remember growing up,
you know, playing a lot ofinterdeed, I had a few coaches that
make great antakes on me. Andyou know that is even to this day,

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I still have some beliefs and uh, whenever you have something like that,
like a coach that's passing way,just it hurts you, even though
if you haven't spoken to him inthe years or recent And you know,
the one thing about me is thatI had one coach I always told me,
you know'll never give up and justto keep my persistions going. So
now like you know, hearing fromthis one, that's just I feel like,

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you know, all this talk islike speaking to me on a on
a bad time end of the week, you know, So I appreciate y'all
coming in and just having a greatconversation, just something for me to time
in on and just have a betterday. So I appreciate everything you do.
Guys. Felipe, thanks very much. But uh, hopefully all the
power and the lights come back onfor you. But I think we all
have stories that move us with ourcoaches, and you're you're you're welcome,

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first off, but thank you fortuning in for the great confident. I'd
love to hear more people call inabout their high school coaches or junior high
coach that impacted them wherever college playedPro Bowl? Right, Yeah, absolutely,
And I love the stories because weall have one and may have at
the time had you said can Ilike you said, I can't stand this
that you want to punch him inthe face. I don't mean literally,

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but drives you crazy six days andon game day, first guy, you
hugs that coach after a victory orwhat have you? Right? And most
coaches have your best interest in mind, hence why they got into a at
times thankless business. Now pros.You see, we see the guys making
ten million a year, that's exactlyright. They've they've they've moved forty forty

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times, their family moved because theyAnd if you're a coach and you haven't
been fired, you never coached you. If you're at the pro or college,
life, radio, high school,even now it's become a bigger business.
But the impact on people, it'sjust so important. And it leads
me to we talked about which isthe irony of it. One of my
best friends, if not my bestin this town, and I trained his

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son send me a message the otherday said let's get together and play golf
next week because we get some businesstalk. But he's a friend first,
right sure, and his family Ilove him. Well, he's back in
Virginia. He just got back intown. Now, he's back in Virginia
and visiting his high school basketball coachand I'll leave the name out, but

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visiting his high school basketball coach whomay not make it through August, and
talk about impact. Flew back therespending just spending time with him throughout the
week, talk about that impact.And my buddy didn't play pro sports,
you know, and just that impactthat his high school basketball coach made on
him. And it brings us backto those guys that you say, I

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wanted to spend more time with him, Why didn't I? So whenever you
got to take that trip or sacrificethat trip for the guy who probably spent
a lot of time sacrificing for youor the lady, the male, doesn't
matter if male or female, theyall impact us, right is do it
because the regrets you have, orlike I should have, I should have
taken what's more important sitting around ourhouse one extra day or even if you

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have to drive to it, gettingthere and spending time to that coach who
would probably or have done the samefor you. So to my buddy.
I hope that those and I senthim a message. I hope that the
time with that coach is impactful.I see that happen too often, and
I'm glad he and my buddy's gotsuch great compassion and cares about people to
be able in John to go outthere and spend time with your high school

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coach, tells me that high schoolcoach, and he's a very successful guy,
meaning my friend, and you knowwhat, but you none of that
stuff matters. What matters is he'sjust like everybody, wants to just go
and show his respect for a guywho probably part of the reason for his
success is that high school coach.And it doesn't have to be in the
sport you played, just in life, right and to go pay those respects.

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And obviously that coach made a hugedifference on him. You've talked about
life lessons, and that's one ofthose life lessons. Is it's relationships when
it really comes down to it,and a friendship, a romantic relationship,
whatever it might be. Somebody pullsmore weight at times than the other does.
And then there's a time where youcan say, hey, they poured

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so much into me. Now Ican pour back into that relationship and really
show them like hey I'm here,yeah, like I you need me now,
I'm here for you. Right,And that's and that's a huge part
of it is I mean, it'sagain you remember those who are genuine,
You remember those who even if itdidn't seem like it at the time,
Oh he didn't care about me.All he cares about me is that is

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that we win ball games. Nottrue. Some for some may baby true,
but sure you're spot on. Butnormally with good coaches that's not true
because they care. Let me askyou this, if you have you lost
somebody close to you at some pointin time in your life. Numerous unfortunate
inside of your family, right buddiesor coaches or teachers or fronts. One
incredibly recently, Ye okay, didyou have you lost somebody that you said,

(01:01:51):
yeah, we're gonna get together,We're gonna get together, and keep
saying it and don't do it,and then they pass away and you still
regret it to this day. That'sThat's what I'm dealing with right now,
man, And it doesn't go awaynow. And that so my point is
it not to be harshy We alltrust, sure, Yeah, and you
carry so much to carry your partof it. Yeah, take the day
off work, get off your phone, miss something you'd locally do, miss

(01:02:16):
the golf game on a Saturday,whatever, I don't care what it is,
and go see that person we did. Quit Quit planning for what will
happen two years from now. Anotherguy that I know that I've coached with
it in All American Game fifty threeyears old, coach the University of Arizona's
coach in the USFL fifty three yearsold, died this past week. Saw

(01:02:37):
him at the at the US ArmyAll American I mean, see him.
You're thinking what then you think toyourself, did you when they say you
want to get together? Dude?Did you do it? And don't like
my friend going? It would beeasy to say, hey, man,
coach, well, send a messagein a text and say, and I
know we all can't afford some can'tafford to go, but I think we

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can all hop in our car,put a tack of gas in and go
visit somebody, even if it's aeven if it's a painful drive for you.
Because I got to drive fifteen hours, Oh well, I'll take that
fifteen hours over the regret I feelthat I didn't spend the time. How
many times you say it to youbuddies, man, let's get together and
quit talking about it? Sure,and not do it then one of that
group. Yeah, and you know, think about the last time you all
got together. It may be thelast time you all get together with the

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same group. I don't mean tobe harsh like that this morning, but
stuff like Monti Kiffin or gear realityit is and I hate it. Well,
I mean, I hate that regret. It's also too when I was
living where I was in Atlanta,the saddest day of the year every single
year for me was getting back onthe plane after Christmas, because I would
tell myself, I don't know howmany more of these I'm going to get.

(01:03:43):
Yeah, and with family or it'sand it's you know, I mean,
because parents get older and just everythinghappens. I mean, you know,
it's the old thing. As youget older, there's far less hellos,
there's a lot more goodbyes. Yeah, it shouldn't be at funerals.
Shouldn't be the time that you haveyour reunion right always when and unfortun what's
happened the funeral should be now,Hey, we're going to another funeral.
Can't wait to see you? Right, do your other buddies right? No?

(01:04:05):
No, no, And I admirebecause my friend will not. He
just got back from driving to theto the Midwest. Sure no, I
have further east to take a rescuedog that people, but he rescued and
delivered the dog to them by car, comes back, finds out about his
coach, gets right back at itand is now and he's got a business

(01:04:27):
to run the rest of it.But you know what, the business to
run even get in the way ofsomething that he would regret far more not
going and visit a coach who impactedhim. And I think we offer me
and I try to do a goodjob of competion. Sometimes we got to
get out of our own way andmake sure we do that because I live.
It's the things I didn't do thatI regret more than the things I
did. No, it's it's definitelytoo. It's the one that unfortunately makes

(01:04:47):
an indeuble impact on you because exactlyyou're just like work could have waited,
like why what why it can?Work's not going anywhere? And you know
what and neither is Neither is yourgolf game, neither is your phone,
all those things. But I cantell you this, I'm goodbye suck.
When it's the last goodbye. Youknow, when you say goodbye for the
last time, nobody wants to dothat. And so I don't mean to

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be cheesy this morning, but no, I think with Moni and my buddy
going to visit his front of thing, I got to do a better job
because you just never know, Likewhen a caller calls in, you never
know what they're going through. Andit's such an older saying about be kind
all the time. But sometimes wegot to sacrifice more than we think we're
doing. And quite frankly, isit that biggest sacrifice to go see somebody
you should go see? Well,not only that, but it's not it's

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also too. I mean, it'sjust how much better do you feel when
you have that reunion? I meanit's you know, high school reunion stays
you for the until the next time. Absolutely, I mean, and if
nothing else, I mean, itrekindles some of those relationships too that you
can kind of, you know,lean back on. And I'm tired of
missing out on those now, youand me both, Man, I'm not
working and I'm not living to work. It's time to for everybody. And

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I'm not just talking about a job. Whatever we do. Your work to
live and living is part of doingwhat he's doing. Whatever it is,
you can wait for sure, andyou know, kind of to you continue
the same vein you know, itwas brought up a little bit earlier.
I want to continue on this isthe long game being played by the astros
at this moment. One person inparticular to think we'll talk about that on

(01:06:12):
the other side as we continue toroll along here on The Sean Salisbury Show.
Dan Matthew Sean Salisbury Triple Emmanuel Elmorehere on Sports Talk seven ninety the
Sewn Salisbury Show, continued, I'mtired of being Houston strong. You know,
can we just be Hey? Thingsare good, Yeah, we're just
moving along. Yeah. Powers onbeing put put to the test when it

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comes to human nowity, mother nature, human nature too. There you got
the people there you go, brother, Yeah with you. It's it's it's
it's a bummer, There's no doubtabout it. Perhaps more people could learn
from Joe a spot up and Robertbrought this up, and this is something
the narrative shifted on Joe's spot ina month. President one thousand percent,
I've set one thousand percent, onehundred percent, all of those percentages.

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Hey, look, you know youput a strong number to it. That's
that's that's what I believe in.But a lot of times I think that
people look at baseball through the prismof the same way we kind of look
at football. But the funny thingis, though, and I brought this
up a couple of weeks ago whenI was on with you, is our
reaction to the Texans lose to theColts in Week four? What's our reaction?
That wasn't our day, What areyou gonna do. We'll come back

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next week, we'll get the Arizonacard rights or whoever, and we'll take
care of business then. But thefunny thing is is it's like such a
finite amount of time that I wouldprobably say the way that you react to
a tough Astros loss is the waythat you should react to that, because
guess what, two or three ofthose could be a reason you don't make
the playoffs. And we saw itnumerous times. I remember years ago asking

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Gary Kubiak when they just missed outon the playoffs. You know how much
of a stress is that to theguys of the team that you lost to
in week one of the season wasthe team who beat you out to make
the playoffs. So you win thatgame in week one, you're the one
going on to the playoffs, notthem, right, And that's just how
tight that a football season is.Why I hate when people say, oh,

(01:08:02):
September doesn't matter. Your ASCID doesn't. If I win in September in
football, I get a little moreleadway in December. Sure it's not Oh,
it's not how you start, it'show you finish. Or if I
start four and oh, then Ican finish two and two, sure,
if as long as in between theyall matter, and that's my favorite.
I do believe we keep score inSeptember, do we not? Well?
I mean, yeah, those gamesare counting towards THEO that you play.

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Would you rather be oering four andchasing or three and one and in a
position that if you did have ahiccup like the Texans did against Carolina coming
out of a bye week, thatyou can overcome and still get to the
playoffs. And they started what oherand two this year? If I know
it's taken, So I'm losing thatgame to the Colts Baltimore at the beginning,
right, So it to me itis I always that's now got to

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finish strong. But I got newsfor if the Astros were still fifteen games,
if they were twelve fifteen games outof first place, the finish ain't
gonna matter. Dude. Well,it's because that's a thirty game swing,
right, and it's not going tohappen. And that's the part of it
too, is with Joespota. Youknow just where I'm getting at with this
is I got to give him massivecredit of all the things that have happened

(01:09:10):
this season. We can talk aboutdecisions made. We can say, oh,
you know, how would you gowith that guy as a pinch hitter,
or why would you use that guyon the bullet Yeah? Absolutely,
and that's going to happen because thetruth of the matter is, as I've
talked about before with Triple Lee,I do the job behind the scenes as
well one of our new guys,Trey. The truth of the matter is
you don't know until you know,and the way that you know is getting

(01:09:33):
those reps and actually doing the joband finding it out. You can tell
me so many times, use thefootball example right there. You can give
me every single schematic advantage, youcan coach me up. The truth of
the matter is I've got to makethat play, and the way that I
make that play is going through it. And if I don't make it right
there, we'll stay in the fightwe were talking about, you know,

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prize fighters earlier. All right,you missed that one, but don't miss
the next one. Don't miss theone after that. Baseball, it's the
same deal. Hey, this guy'szero for three. All right, Well,
you know some people might say he'sdoe comes through. That might be
the game winner, and some peoplemight say, oh, he's won for
his last ten. That one waspretty huge. And with the spata,

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that's the thing that you have todo in baseball. You have to play
the long game. The funniest thingis is some of the managers that I've
ever been around, they're almost irritableafter losses or after wins. Excuse me
after wins and you're kind of like, what gives you beat those guys ten
to two? But we didn't dothis, We didn't do that. You
know, That's that's the time whenbecause if you can and making mistakes,

(01:10:36):
so you make along the way right, No, and and that's and and
that's what goes into that. Andyou know with the spata as well,
I mean, you know, talkingabout staying the course, being positive.
Hey, these guys fight. Theseguys fight. Well, when they were
seven to nineteen, people didn't wantto hear that. Twelve and twenty four
people didn't TWI it was eye rolling. That's how people see what was absolutely

(01:10:58):
it was because it's kind of oneof those are are you bsking yourself?
Or do you truly believe this?I think we can now pretty definitively say,
well, he believes it, andhe continues to say it as well.
Dan has used the word grind.We got to keep grinding, gotta
keep grinding. It's a long season. And in truth, he said they
were gonna go through this and thatthey were gonna have a streak, and
they have won sixteen at twenty.I will tell you this, and I've
mentioned this before, but it bearsrepeating. Is it's a good thing that

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players and coaches do not approach itlike media and fans like we do,
because if they have the ebbs andflows of the up and down, win
three in a row, lose one, and now on the the and hater
gives up a home run, theguy sucks, right, and we all
have that he doesn't. But youget my point, right, the recency

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part of it. In one hundredand sixty two, think about anything you
do one hundred and sixty two times. Think about it. Oh, just
give me some failure in there.Yes, think about anything you do.
If you got if you're trying tosell and you're on your one hundred and
sixty second house, you're thirty toyou. I'm just going, you know,
I'm trying to compare it to othercareers right. Think about the difference
in experience, how you go alongand if somebody came to you and said

(01:12:06):
you're ten, you're you're you're oneand nine And in closing closing sales on
a home, you're closing what's goingon? Are you supposed to as the
player or is the salesperson the realestate? And to say, yeah,
you're right, I guess the betterquit you're gonna say, I'm just gonna
keep grinding. Eventually two or threeare gonna come and it's gonna change my
month and it's gonna change my yearand then I'll feel good about it.

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And momentum however that is. AndI know it sounds cheesy, but it
is true because while we we areas media and fans, and it's true
not everybody, but we all getinto the we're back removed from it,
and we see the optics like,oh, the guys walking the plate,
his shoulders are a little shrugged.He struck out swing out to that one
time that called it and said,oh vern landers giving high fives, and
like the hell's he supposed to do? Right? So but we we're right,

(01:12:50):
we're all entitled the opinion. Butit's a good things that our opinion,
our emotions as players. I cantell you this as a broadcaster and
as a fan, my emotions arefar different than they were as a player
when it comes to the day today. Now, don't kid yourself.
The loss is hung around a lotlonger than feeling good about a win.
I got over the wins so muchquicker the loss. But you have to

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get over both equally as quick.You just do so you can focus on
the next task. And then youwant the last part of the season to
be in in a win, soyou can not let the offseason fester.
But it sucks so for me begrateful that even though we don't like to
hear some of the comments like ohwe're grind and oh just one at a
time. Oh, it's a longseason, but in truth it is.
And if you apply it to yourjob, about how long if somebody came

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up to you and said, threeweeks, three months into your job,
your very first time, they saidyou're not producer right now, it's like
pick up the temple. Yeah,but they're going to give you a chance
to make mistakes along the way.This team's just spoiled us with all their
success. So we expect the samething all the time. And I get
it. So we as fans andmedia get we're entitled the opinion. But

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can you imagine if the players we'rein the day to day emotional highs and
lows like we are, well,I mean, if they never get through
it. The football example is playerscare less about one game, care far
less than I don't mean care lessabout losing or winning. Sure, they
they they will, they will compartmentalizeit far better, and they care out

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far less than the fans. They'renot burying their season unless it's the last
game of the season that eliminated them. They're not burying their season over a
loss or two. Well, that'sa good thing. It's the Jim Mora
ligne. You don't know, likeyou you you think you know, but
you don't know. And and that'sthe huge part of it as well,
is you know, oh man,you know you guys have lost five of

(01:14:39):
your last six. You know,how does it not bother you? Guys?
More like, how are you notshowing it? That? It rushing,
it bothered, it drives it.You're nobody wants to embarrass himself,
but you don't go to seven straightalcs's and just fall off the map.
But also too, it's not likeyou know, they looked at it and
said, well, we've been toseven straight l as, we've won two

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World Series during that time. We'regood, We're fine. There's not a
single guy in that clubhouse, Ithink right, And it doesn't alleviate that
there still makes some mistakes here alongthe way. Even in sixteen to twenty
wins straight. There's still things theycan do better. Right, We're not
going to be our best every singleshow, and if they win five straight
in a row, we're not crowningthe World Series champs. The point is
is the emotion part of it.It's important that players and coaches are far

(01:15:23):
better than we are at it's thecheesiest it's so will stand the course?
Well, I mean, just gotto stay the course, and you've got
to think outside the box at timeswhen the course has gone a little off
off the paved road. And baseballis one of those sports too. You
can't run hot all the time.You've got to know when is the time
to be able to do that.But then also too, I've said it
before, you got to find thatmiddle, I mean, wins or losses.

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You got to find that middle becausethat's what sustains you over one sixth
You look what they've done in thismiddle sixteen to twenty. In the middle
wasn't the beginning and in the end, but in the middle, they've given
themselves now a chance to be relevantin the run in the end for sure.
For sure. We'll continue that conversationas well as get into some Texans
talk and other NFL stuff as trainingcamp set to fire up next week,

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as well as we continue to rollalong here on the Sean Salisbury Show here
on at your home of the Astrosand the Rockets, Sports Talk seven ninety.
We want to win, Sean Salisburycontinues on seven ninety. Yes,
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know it's it's one of those two. Johnny on the Spot is always Triple
Lee as well. In terms ofthe music, I mean he he sets
the mood. You've got to havethe mood set right. You know it's
Matthew McConaughey talking about blessing the mood. We're talking about blessing a different mood.
Tripley's beloved man, he should be. Yeah, thank you all man
Hey. I talked about genuine people. Yep. You don't get more genuine

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than that Triples year anniversary October.That's right. I'll be a good celebration.
He was. He was one ofthe first guys that you know that
that was on the board with meand I love it. That's awesome.
Now time flies, man Hey,when you're working at a great place,
it definitely does that. So there'sno doubt we are blessed to be able

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to be here as part of theteam. On Sports Talk seven ninety,
you got next up coming up afterus? You got the Matt Thomas Show.
A little bit later on today,the A team gonna be out at
Minute Made Park. Huge one comingup this weekend with the Rangers in town.
Just quick run through Astros six threewinners last night over the Marlins,
a series sweep talked about a bitearlier on in the show. Nine straight

(01:18:02):
wins on the home diamond. Now, so all of a sudden, that
batter's eye, it's not as treacherousas it used to be. The Astros
can see the baseball coming out ofthe pitcher's hand. They can still hit
it, they can feel it,they can do all those things. Three
straight series sweeps there at Minute MadePark. As you swept the Orioles,
you swept the Rockies, and youjust took care of the Marlins. And

(01:18:24):
that's one of those things too.You know that. I know that the
people out there, and it's noteven pundits. You'll also have the people
who kind of want to be likeRandy Quaid there in Major League two,
who cares they'll blow it in Cleveland. You know. All that kind of
stuff is, Oh, well,all you did was just sweep the Rockies
and the Marlins. All right,what are you saying if you take two
out of three? Are you splitthat series against the Rockies? Well,

(01:18:45):
why didn't you take care of businessagainst those teams? They're terrible. You
can't have it both lates, right, Like, I like, I get
it, and it's it's eye.Yeah, I mean, because it's it's
like, it's never good. It'snever as good as it seems. It's
never as bad as it seems.That that kind of thing, because it's
also too Yeah, the Astros wetalked about softer parts of the schedule because

(01:19:05):
that early part of the year,the Yankees were better than you at that
time. Yes, I take usover them, especially right now. Well
think about yeah, absolutely, thinkabout how you were talking about the Astros
or learn how you felt you werehanging on. But He's like, man,
now I want you to think whatthey're talking about New York today about
their Yankees. Well, what theywhat they're discussing in New York after the

(01:19:29):
start, and how harsh what they'regoing through now, and you know,
maybe even a little more harsh becausethey've been getting hammered the last twenty five
game. They have not been good. I mean, are our good?
Buddy Nick Tatro, he's already startingto do his angry videos on Twitter.
That'll that'll keep you entertained all allsecond half of the season. Long unintentional
comedy, I would say, isNick to Torro on Twitter, he's being

(01:19:53):
serious. I remember when when twohit that walk off against Chad Green a
couple of years ago, and uh, heg he goes, he goes,
you blow a seven run lead ona pop up? Yeah, oh he's
he is, Oh yes he does. You know Bruce Well very well?
Yes, he was longest yard.Yeah, you taught, you taught Paul

(01:20:15):
Crew. Brucey tried to say hecould throw the football. We saw that
Bruce throw the football. What afunny dude too, What a good lady
being around that cast and the LongestYard. I just sat back and marveled
at how cool these guys were,you know, all of them. Chris
Rock make you laugh, just bestaring at him, and when he just
says two words, you like startcrying laughing, and that whole group in
that movie. What an honor itwas to be around him. Man,

(01:20:36):
I loved it. Goldberg, itwas. It was phenomenal. Oh yeah,
Goldberg. And from from the groupof football guys that were in it
to the comedians to from Sandler,and so it was just it was brilliantly
done and what you guys didn't seemight have made a movie up itself.
Well you know, oh my god, the wrestler, the wrestler of the

(01:20:58):
Great College. Let me tell yousomething. The biggest human being I've ever
been around him on a flight withI mean, he did like I've been
around some big dudes. You know, you stand next to Shack or Anthony
Munos who played as a trojan.Let me tell you he is at the
time, he come out in sucha gentle human being. We were out

(01:21:18):
there when Sandler called us up,and everybody came up, and afterwards I
introduced myself. He called us upafter a scene. Right, sure,
So when they break for lunch,I went up to him and shook his
hand. And I'm not a smallguy at two fifty, but he's seven
plus and about pushing four bills andlooked like he had about ten percent body

(01:21:45):
fat. Right, dude, buthis hands, now, he probably could
grip a you know, the ballthat the kids jump on with the old
school what they'd have to handle inbetween their legs, right, I'm not
so sure he couldn't palm one ofthose, I'm telling you did. His
hands were like three of mine,and he shook my hand, engulfed it,
and then he gently with the secondhand like mate, like like he

(01:22:08):
was afraid he was gonna hurt you, and I just I looked at him
like like like I you know,how like when you see a movie,
like any kind of those movies whereit's like, oh my god, like
Jurassic Park, when they when when? When the when? The when they
when? What's the uh not thevelast rad? What's the biggest one called
source? Yeah, t Rex,when you're like looking up and thinking,
this is this? This is different? Great, a phenomenal dude, phenomenal,

(01:22:33):
just quiet and gentle. I'm tellingyou, brother, I have never
in my life been around a biggerhuman being. Had a chance to be
around Shack quite a bit because theplace I worked at is where he would
record his podcast, right, Andit's one of those things that every time
you see him, the first thingthat comes to mind is how can a
human being be that large? Andguess what the great colleague was? What

(01:22:57):
makes he could set his drink onShacks? That's how big this dude is.
I remember when Yao Ming walked pastme once at Toyota Center. It
was almost like if you're at anairport and you see huge seven forty seven
fly over. Yes, I meanit seriously was without the the plane engines
right there. You're just like wow. And to validate your Shack thing,
they were standing with the sidelines,Munjos and Shack next to each other at
the Miami Hurricanes Trojan National title atthe Orange Bowl when Winer and that group

(01:23:20):
played, Yeah, and Shaq madeAnthony Munos and Tony BISSELLI look like children.
Oh yes it is. That's alot of Hall of famers right there.
Hey, you know, you tryto learn as much as you can.
There's no doubt about it. Allright, eight o'clock tour Is nine
will continue the conversation Alex Chris seeyou guys right there, get to you
as well as we continue to rollalong here on the Sean Salisbury Show,

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(01:24:27):
the Sean Salisbury show. You youcan't do that. You remember we talk
about this. We compare this alot of times when we say something stupid,
which we all do. Sure,lil and I is the movie Hits,
you know where Kevin James gets slappedby Will Smith. How that that
real, real fantasy come to reallife the real time right with Will Smith.

(01:24:48):
Sometimes it's an actual physical, physicalslap. Sometimes it's just you know,
the words get told you live there. Don't you ever do that again?
On the dance right when he triedto do what was he trying to
do? You know when he wasright like like popping and locking the washing
machine, the rights machine? Well, well, uh, caddyshack, tedd

(01:25:09):
it? Well or wait, don'tdo that down. Don't call him.
If you call him singing on herethat you might you might get in trouble.
I had to pick up that wrapper, That's what I Yeah, there
you go what's going on? Pickup that wrap? Sing watch let me
hear you say it. What's thefirst basement's name, John Singleton, what's
his nickname? Well, it wassinging. Now I've actually been going with

(01:25:33):
one dash ton, one dash tona single ton. Yeah, okay,
I'm into that. Okay, I'lltake that more than singy singy all right
now think outside just kind of lookat me real quick. Yeah, I
mean I am the captain now kiddinguh singy Now it's now now that it's

(01:25:55):
now that it's said back to me, that's hey, who's the first place
for the as with a singing?Yeah? Yeah, yeah, you feel
me. And it's also to itdoesn't fit and I love you dog.
You can't say that doesn't fit thestature yeah either, yeah, exactly.
Thing. It feels like he's likefive to four one hundred meek and you
know just kind of meek and orJohn olerude build, you know, kind
of that that sinewy Yeah, yeah, there you go. So yeah,

(01:26:20):
singing there you're allowed to, dude, come on here, captain us up
and let's roll. Well when youcome on the show. One thing we
can never say, like singing,but like to your point, Breggy fits.
Yeah, but I don't call himthat either. No, I call
him Alex pregnant fair. You knowwhat I'm saying, Well, I mean
it's the bombs. I'm more like, I guess for me, not a

(01:26:45):
big nickname guy. But I understandwhy local broadcasters a bit right if it
fits, I agreed. My pointis everybody doesn't need a nickname. That's
my whole thing. Sure, youknow everybody doesn't need a nickname. Now
in the locker room wheel, everybodyseems to have nickname, right, But
but you need it for the backand then there is no question and then
but also with local like in baseballin particular, so many games and they're

(01:27:12):
traveling with the team, you becomeit becomes I understand why in baseball local
broadcasts are far more nickname They can'tthey constantly do because they're they're buddies.
It's like you if you heard thatevery day, right, So that part
I get. It's like on thenational thing when a broadcast comes on,
I've heard this on Monday night footballand I'll leave the crew out and it
wasn't the current crew. But theycall guys the nickname before they establish their

(01:27:38):
real name. On national TV,they start calling him nickname. It's like,
no, give me his first name, his last name, called him
by his name for a bit,and then if you want to weave in
prime, sure, go ahead.His name's Dion Sanders. Established at first,
don't assume that everybody knows, andI know they may, but you
just can't. And that's broadcast oneon one, and they were doing it
right out of the shoot. It'slike, this is a buddy up.

(01:28:00):
On the national broadcasting, you're it'slike an inside joke that nobody listening knows.
There you go. So But onthe local broadcasts with team one hundred
and sixty two games year after year, why they call him tu vay?
I get it right. I'm talkingabout why anybody does you feel he's part
of your family? But uh singing, he's the outlier and I then to
fit him. But also for me, I think that's why the nickname thing.

(01:28:24):
And everybody doesn't need a nickname,but if it fits right. And
local baseball broadcasts, whether it's inBaltimore or here, and I look,
you listen to Red Sox even whenthe player leaves doogie's doogie to to to
the Red Sox right, and he'splaying for the frigging Yankees, and he's
still because they're around him, allof him. That part, I do
understand. We joke about it,but that's because you're friends with him and
you're around him every day. Butnational broadcasts that play the nickname buddy buddy

(01:28:46):
thing that that that's not, that'snot your gig. Well, it's also
it's also too I mean it canget to cut c. Yes, it's
also too of you know, hey, hey, look who I know,
right, it's it's a yeah,hey hey buddy, ye the one upper.
And it also also makes me feellike that you're not being fair in
the broadcast by giving a guy byby your nickname, like you and him

(01:29:06):
were buddy buddy before the game andyou're talking, guy throws an interception,
you can't go and and just likehey, me and me and me and
Deep Press Dak Pressent, No,don't call him Deepress names Dak Prescott.
He threw a pick. I almostfeel like the nickname thing on a national
basis is like, oh, that'smy boy. I can't criticize him.
That's my dog right now. Localbroadcasts, I get, we joke about

(01:29:28):
it, but that's cool. He'ssaying he doesn't work. Though, if
you wanted to get extra personal withdak you call him Rain because his real
name is Rain Dakota. There yougo, Scott. Yeah, so simply
known around these parts is dak That'sit. So this all goes back to
nicknames are cool when they fit.One nickname that will never fit singing,

(01:29:50):
singing, Yeah, less and learned, Love you though, doc Hey,
Lesson learned. You got to learnthe hard way sometimes, you know what
I mean? I got all Igot off light this time. You you
know what I mean. D batNo, it's funny you say that.
That was my nickname in heists.There you go, see, there you
go. I'm sure. I'm suremy buddy Frankie out there is listening,
probably laughing right now. My buddyAndy as well. Shout out to Andy

(01:30:10):
too. By the way, youknow, talking about not having power.
One of my buddies was a reallyhuge listener. And last night I asked
him, because I'm in studio,I go, hey, man, look,
you know, kind of grasping utstraws here, can you run by
the house really quick see if thepower is on. Of course it wasn't,
but I appreciate him for doing that, So shout out to you and
I forget it. That's that's afriend. As he said, we're brother.
Find out who your friends are.But that's it. That's it.
Hey, Hey, roy Oswalt wasin the music video for that, so

(01:30:34):
yeah, you do it. Notruer words, you do. Find out
who your friends are. All right, Alex, I'm gonna get to you
on the other side, we'll continuethe Astros conversation. Rangers in town all
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And by the way, we gotto give a little, not a
little, just as much love.Dave log has passed away, Montie Kiffin
Ye and Shelley Devall And for peopledon't know her, maybe understand you see
her and you're like, oh,what's her name again? What's her name?
In it was in mid eighties.She was the lead female in The
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(01:33:30):
the day before, might have beenyesterday. But she's eighty I think eighty
five years old. And obviously thatwe're talking about iconic, crazy want great
movies, The Shining, so bestof her family too, so three of
them, man, and that wasa great movie. One of the great
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Yeah, and that yeah, what'sher name's shy? Just so you know,

(01:33:54):
passed away as well in her mideighties. Dennis Farina is one of
those two in terms of like acharacter actor. You're like, I have
seen that guy, well he hearsyou hear his voice before seeing I know
that guy. Yeah, I knowthat guy. Yeah. Is this more
on number one? It's more onnumber two on the phone, It's exactly
right. Some great one liners andmovies. Alex and garden Oaks wants the
way in here on Sports Talk sevenninety Alex, what's going on? Good

(01:34:16):
morning? Good morning, How youdoing buddy? Okay? I was listening
to Peter and I want to complimentyou. You have cemented you're what sports
the things that you said, Hey, hey, Alex, to me a
favor. Could you can you takeare you on speakerphone? Could you?

(01:34:38):
Could you? Could you get youif you're not driving? Could you take
off speakerphones so we can hear youbetter? Yeah, you said you said
something. Now go ahead and startagain. You sorry? Yeah, we
got you better at that, clear, loud and clear. Well, like,
you said so many insightful things thatI said the same things, and
I get criticized after the game forsaying the things that you said. For
example, Uh, say, saythe ask was win ten to five,

(01:35:01):
but it was ten to two goinginto the eighth or the ninth, and
they do some stupid stuff. SoI'll call in and I'll be upset about
it, and I'll tell you why, Sean, Because you could have a
game where you're you're winning five tothree and you do that same stuff,
and guess what, You've got aloss. You don't walk away with a
win. So it's good to pointout these things, the negative things that

(01:35:27):
the team does even in a win. And that's what you said, Alex
in real quick, and that isand it's not even. And you make
a great point it's not just it'snot even being criticalist. I mean it's
probably the player in me that becausegoing into film the day after a game
when you've had a really good game. But you know what, honest to
God and happens every time when youhave your best game. You know what

(01:35:47):
you think on the team bus backto the airport or when you go home,
you go out, your buddies,eat dinner on a home game after
and you're lay in bed and you'restaring at the ceiling and you're going over
You're not usually going over the greatdecisions and throws you made. You're going
over the five or six you missed, sure, because you know that if
the game was closer, and that'sthe great ones. Peyton Manning and I'm
not comparing myself to Manny, butif he goes twenty eight to thirty two,

(01:36:10):
he's not harping. You know,he'll look at it all. He
wants to know why I miss thosefour And he learned that from great players
that are far better than me.But I've always for me since I was
a high school guy. Yeah,we won, we won, we won,
that's great, But what could Ihave done to prevent it from being
that close, or what could Ihave done to make a distance, because
at some point in time that onedecision that I made that we may have

(01:36:30):
won on two weeks ago, somebodyon the other side is going to be
better than us on that day andthey're going to capitalize. So there's nothing
wrong with you know, you winfifteen to three. Even in a fifteen
to three win in baseball, Iassure you Bregman's going and studying tape saying
why'd I chase that one just offthe plate when I normally would take that
pitch and get a walk, oryou're non saying I want to hit my

(01:36:51):
p Of course, that's what makesthose guys who they are. So I
don't think it's anything wrong, anddon't listen. Criticism comes from everybody,
and it comes and goes. Don'tworry about that, and I appreciate the
compliment, but that the truth iswhen you stop and say we won,
and you're complacent with a win,that's because even in wins, you could

(01:37:12):
score. You could score every series. Like I've had games where it's you
know, you throw and you're like, man, close your eyes and you
feel like it's going to the rightguy. And then those days you feel
great and you can't throw it tothe right guy right on a string,
right right, but you throw aball to the flat for a first down.
But if you watch the tape,you go back the next day because
you know a coach is gonna crrect. You say, Sean, look at
the whole shot. If you'd havetaken that, we score instead of just
get it first down. Not thatyou're mad that you got the first down,

(01:37:33):
but imagine what you would have doneif we'd have read it like we
practiced right, so, and Ithink that's what you're talking about, Alex.
It's okay. To a matter offact, I always believe this.
When you're getting your ass kicked,put your arm around, put your arm
around the player, let him knowthat you care about him, and do
it. And when you're winning,that's when players usually need a kick in
the ass because they're confident, they'refeeling good and they don't take it personal.

(01:37:56):
When they're winning and playing well iswhen you over criticism. When I
say, criticize, critique and gothrough it. It's the guy that browbeats
somebody when they're getting their ass kicked. All you're doing is beating the guy's
self esteem into the ground. It'snot doing any good. You're being a
front. That's exactly right. That'sexactly right, Alex. We'll showing the
other insight. I mean, youhad many, many, but another one

(01:38:17):
you had is you know, winningor losing the game at any point in
the in the season. So youknow from day one all the way to
mid season, all the way toSeptember, you're looking at one game can
keep you from the playoffs. Soevery game is important. That's what I
tried to tell these people in theevening, and they acted like that was

(01:38:38):
some kind of fool for saying it. But here you are saying the same
thing, Alex. You know,we all have selective criticism or selective compliments.
Think about this for your point whensomebody wants to criticize it. Did
the Astros win a tiebreaker last yearto win the division? If they lose
one of those one game and thatif they want five or six, if

(01:39:00):
they go four and six in thefinal two games, final two series last
year, Yeah, they don't winthe division, right, so make the
playoffs but not the division. Don'twin the division? Right? So point
is is it? Yes? Gamefour somewhere along the line, can now,
if you win the division by Philadelphiaruns away and wins the division by
ten games, they're not gonna worryabout Game four. But there's ten fifteen

(01:39:24):
games along the year that you'll alwaysgo back to and say that gave us
that, that jump started us.Man that cost us they do so,
yeah, one game does matter,or we wouldn't play it. So yes,
it does matter. Now if youwin the division by fifteen games,
god bless you just had one ofthose years. So you run with that,
Alex. It's okay to be complimentaryand criticized respectfully, but by looking

(01:39:45):
at it the right way without makingknee jerk decisions, which we all do.
And it's also too I think that, you know, kind of getting
back to what we were talking aboutwith Joe Aspota of Oh saw some good
things all of that. When you'relosing, people don't want to hear that.
I think you can lose a gamethat wins you one later on in
the season, no doubt. Here'swhat I mean. A couple of years
ago, Brian Kelly at LSU decidesto kick the extra point, gets it
blocked against Florida State. A fewweeks later, he's got Alabama on his

(01:40:10):
home field, score the touchdown andovertime has the opportunity. Yeah, we
kicked the extra point. We keepthis going, we get it blocked,
we lose another game that it's justlike, ah, what could have been?
He says, Now the hell withthis. We're going to Mason Taylor.
They go in the end zone,they score the two point conversion.
You beat Alabama, you walk itoff. You went on the best player's
hands. Let him deliver it rightin the point. Is is I guarantee
you that doesn't happen if they kickedthat extra point. Send it to overtime

(01:40:33):
against Florida State, because I thinkhe probably thinks at that point, hey,
we did it once, we'll doit again. Right exactly, there
you go. There's no and realquick that it's it is so true that
in losing you can win and inwinning you can lose. Either way.
It happens all the time. Astrosdid it against the guys that you're gonna
see this weekend. There's no doubtthey got blown out on that Friday game.
They were losing by like, Idon't know, eleven or ten runs.

(01:40:56):
He scored seven runs. Made ita respectable game. I remember thinking
myself at that time, I said, this is something we haven't been seeing.
That's nice to see. I getthat it's kind of in a feudal
effort to a certain point. Butthen the next day, what happens in
the seventh inning seven runs. Youwin that game, You win that game
on that Sunday as well, youtake that series. So my point is
it carried over where it was finally, hey, runners in scoring position,

(01:41:17):
Oh crap, you know we're inthat spot. These haven't been good spots
for us. And then all ofa sudden it was, hey, this
is where we can thrive. Now. Think about Joe Aspata the same personality
he's had in losing. Mm hmm. He still hasn't winning. Still calm
at his press, he has not. Whether you love some of his decisions
or you love him regardless, JoeAspota has his approach to this season.

(01:41:40):
When it comes to the way heapproaches the media has not changed. Reactionary
gets you fired from it. Hehasn't been reactionary to either side. And
that's the thing is, I think, if nothing else, it's kind of
even filtered to the rest of theguys. Where they're like, wait a
minute, we've been doing this,and yes he's been here for a few
years as a bench coach, buthe doesn't know the fact that he's being
this way and his first spot atdoing this, because I mean early on

(01:42:02):
the season we're already getting reports ofwell, Jim Crane might be looking for
a proven guy if this doesn't startto turn around. Didn't FaZe them,
And that's hard to do. Pointthat's it's incredibly hard to do in that
spot because you want to try todo too much and it really leads to
too little. So that's something toconsider on that front. Kind of something
that I think would tie into boththe Astros and the Texans here. That

(01:42:26):
is something that reminds me in thepast that was just brought up right there.
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(01:44:17):
with the four zero. Yeah,that's one. It's funny too. We
were talking about, you know,I want to ask Jeremy Pania, like,
hey, that's Soldier Boys song.How old were you? The kind
of like I'm old. Moment forme was not only seeing some of my
favorite players kids are now playing collegeball, maybe even in some cases pro
ball, like Craig Viggio's son,but also too In the early parts of

(01:44:39):
my career, I covered recruiting andstarted to have kids calling me oh yes,
sir, And I was like,oh, okay, hey, don't
do that. Yeah, don't don'tsign of respect. No, I know,
I know, I get what you'resaying, dad. Yeah, exactly,
exactly. Yeah, the dad jokesare a plenty there. Yes,
when kids I've trained are having babies, oh yeah, yeah, it's like

(01:45:02):
and more than one. Uh huh, Like come on now, yeah,
well it's like, uh that stuffdown. If Tripley pumps out of baby
here with one of his zoids,one of his zoids, that we're in
trouble though, now in a goodway to be good. You know what,
Triple bring a baby to work day. Look at I already got you,

(01:45:25):
already got you. I already gotyou as a pops Triple. He's
like, let me enjoy the zoidsfor Yeah, don't do that. It's
the old thing. It's it's theold sing. Don't be afraid to grow
up too fast? Yeah, orbe afraid it's one of those. But
don't don't grow up too fast.I don't think Triple is ready to put

(01:45:45):
a ring on it just yet.Don't don't have as much fun as you
can. I do it all.There, you go, do it all
that's that's one of those things too, is less of course you love her
triple absolutely, Hey, hey,absolutely, Look you find the right one,
you know what you know, youknow, so it's uh gonna be

(01:46:06):
a wise ass, but I'm gonnaleave it alone. God bless you.
Hey, triple zoidified. Sometimes,you know, it's one of those you
don't have to be yiner. Youdon't have to swing at every pitch.
No, you don't know, youdon't, you don't. It's sometimes sometimes
taking a pitch is okay. Butif you're gonna go down swing and don't
get cheated, that's it. Yeah, let it rip. No check,
I don't want to check swing.Yeah. Yeah, I didn't come here

(01:46:28):
to lay up. Yeah, it'spart five when somebody you're playing with your
buddies right to lay up? First? Why I win in the tournament?
Second one, I ain't shooting sixtyeight. I didn't come here to lay
up. Yeah, I'm gonna beRoy mckawell. You're right, come on,
come on. Given even those ScottieChef where the best of the world
wouldn't try to hit the shot triedto hit. Yeah, it's tight green
where there's a slow two seventy withthe car three and you think you're gonna

(01:46:49):
cut a shot into a green withwater on one side. Yeah, I
didn't come here to lay up.And then chef would look at you like
you idiot. Yeah. The smartones came here to lay up. Yeah,
and then then knock a little thelittle lob wedge in there close and
make the birdie put and get yourass to the next one. Well,
it's like when I was younger,I used to really wear my emotions on
my sleeve even more, and itwas especially on the golf course. And

(01:47:10):
my dad finally well, I mean, you know, he would kind of
have the judge smails spalding, youknow spalding, you know language, you
know, all that kind of stuff. He finally got to the point where
as I got older, it wasi'd hit a shot, I'd be angry.
He'd go, that's all right.You play so much, you know,
you practice so much. It's understandable. Yeah you're gonna win a golf
Yeah, you're hate to do thisfor a living. Yeah, I've talked

(01:47:31):
about that before. Softball guy inthe in the guy or lady. I
mean, look, you know it'sit's not to exclude anyone from the conversation
that that gets overly angry on thecourse, you know, cussing, throwing
clubs in there, that I'll stillsling an f bomb on the course the
competitive part if you don't, butit's if it's constant, it's just like,
man, I I'm sorry, Ican't play with you anymore, and

(01:47:55):
it's just not enjoyable the fun.Right then you get to the point where
you hit a shot that ends upgood ball flight, like you wanted to
hit it, you know, butyou may have scolded, but it ends
up three feet from the hole.You're like, you're still pissed. You're
like, that's not the that's gonnago back, like winning a game,
but doing stupid stuff in the wayto go, and you're pissed. And
as Jason Cokrack told us where weplay at the lift turn we're walking down,

(01:48:15):
he collapsed because on the last holehit a ball. It wasn't the
ball flight I wanted. It wasa decent shot and landed like four feet
from the hole, but it wasI wanted a little more trajectory. So
I'm still pizza go Sean. Thatscorecard has no photos well meaning, and
I actually heard. I'm thinking,and I haven't heard that phrase before,
and I've been golfing forever. IsDotty Dottie Pepper in the tournament last week

(01:48:36):
said the same thing. Guy gotaway with the shot, She goes,
ain't no pictures on the scorecards,meaning if you'd made a three, doesn't
matter how you made the three.Well, it's the same. Take your
three and you're birdy and move on. And that's what Cokorak was saying.
Said, dude, it doesn't matter. Ain't no pictures on that scorecard.
Same thing in baseball, I meanthe other night with Alex Bregman lining out
center field ball knuckling on Jazz Chisholm. Next time up infield, single and

(01:48:58):
guess what the next day picture onit. It's say, it's a single,
looks like he smoked it in theleft field and a line drive one
hundred and nine miles off the bat, So one hundred nine miles an hour
off the bat. So hey,take care of it, take care of
your business. So I'm with you, But that uh that sometimes we uh,
I didn't come here to lay uptriple, ain't come here to lay
up no. When it comes tothe zoids, no, no, no
laying up. No, you know, every single time you hit a good

(01:49:19):
drive, go ahead and try tocapitalize. Brother short Grass, absolutely sure,
for sure. Always stay out ofthe rough, stay out of the
traps. Do all those different typesof things, all right, So lessons
learned. Like I said, tieinto both the Astros and the Texans.
Will do that as we close outis one thing for you. Please go
If Joe as Spot his team goeson and wins this division, considering everything

(01:49:40):
they've been through, is he themanager of the year? Something there is?
The crowd has spoken. We'll speakon it next right here. Shawn
Salisbury show Sports Talk seven ninety puttingthe logic in illogical. Former pro John
Salisbury continues to break it down usd'sJuju Watkins for breakthrough athletes. So after

(01:50:03):
a great season for CJ. Stroud, I guess still much more to strive
for and also to We've talked aboutlegendary coach MONTI Kiffin passing away at eighty
four. Yeah, I didn't knowthe SPE's were last night. Same here,
aren't they the day? Aren't theythe day after the All Star Game?
I always thought that it was Wednesday, because I always I always remembered.

(01:50:25):
All Star Game always falls right inline with SEC media days. It's
always on a Tuesday, so youwould have Monday nights, you would have
you know, us all meeting upfor drinks, dinner wherever. The home
run Derby's going on Tuesday night.Same deal the All Star Games on Wednesday
night, the SP's are on andthere's no and it's the one day it's
the only day of the year wherethere's no none of the three major spots

(01:50:45):
we're playing. Yeah, I had, I'll be honest with you, I
had. I had seen that SerenaWilliams was a host, right, sure,
but I'm not. Even when Iwas there for a dozen years,
I didn't. I didn't watch,right, I didn't go to them.
Congratulations though, who win awards?These guys just I just I'm not really
an award show. More adulation forpeople who don't get enough agulation, right,
And that's great. Good for them, I mean it's awesome. I

(01:51:09):
just was never. Hell, it'ssometimes even tough to go to an award
show if you were going to winan award, right, It's like it's
just never been in the DNA thing. For me. It's great to be
recognized. But I didn't, soI did. I thought, when when
did this change? When when didthe I thought it was right after because
then all the athletes could be there, and you want to you know,
how many baseball players could show upthat were current last night? None?

(01:51:30):
None? Right, So unless you'rehurt, I guess. But that's why
I was saying, it was whydid they do it? I'm a little
confused, is it? I'm notsure it's something to do with me.
That might be that it might bethe only big qualifying and stuff. I
don't know. It just was weird. I you came in this morning,
and I thought we still had afew more days, another week until basically
until the sb's You're coming here tellingme about the awards. I'm like,

(01:51:53):
CJD lost out to who for?What? Do Juju Watkins? Yeah?
That I that when you mentioned it, obviously, But I tell you what,
how I'm not sure, especially fromwhat we saw, and I think
most people in football saw last seasonfrom him, it would have been hard
to kind of edge him out forthat award. Yeah, but she did,

(01:52:14):
and she she wanted well, AndI'm not gonna argue because why why
she's a Trojan. Yeah, andshe is the next great one I think
is I mean I and from everybodyfrom SC the way they talk about her
now, Like I said, atleast she lost out to a trojan,
you know, the big ten Pactwelve back to old school and and at

(01:52:36):
least you know if CJ. Butand I do get it, but you
have a hard press to be reallyyou gotta be really good to have beaten
out c J. Stroud for thataward. But dude, when you hear
everything that friends have told me aboutJuji Watkins that she is special human being,
we know what kind of players sheis, A teammates lover, she's

(01:52:58):
she's gonna be well, she's alreadyreally good, but she's going to be
something else, so good to mytrojan fight on. But uh, I
think it's we've been hard pressed toI'd give CJ. Strouth the award,
but you didn't exactly take a stepback by giving it to Juju walking she's
really good. I've had a chanceto walk that campus before. The only
thing that I could ask is howdo you get anything done on that campus?

(01:53:23):
Uh? Being really focused? Okay, there you go. That's the
best way I can describe it meticulousnature. Yes, and it's a small,
cozy campus considering right, we gotabout sixteen seventeen thousand undergrads. Or
sure, it's a cozy kne it'syou know, like if you go to
a bigger school like an A andM or in one of those a big
ten school Michigan State, right,even UCLA, you may not see the

(01:53:45):
same person on campus for three weeks. Sure at SC that leads right through
them. You know where the middleof campus by the walk right, Tommy
Troch, that's exactly right right there. You know, at lunchtime you may
pass the same people with their backpackon and you know, wearing their shorts
and the same because it's high,it's warm, and it's California seventy degree
weather. But yeah, we askedthat same question when we were there.

(01:54:06):
Damn, how do we How doyou stay focused through all this? I
had a chance to do that whenI was out there for the National Championship
Game because I always wanted to seeDado Field because I growing up I loved
USC baseball, morgan Ensburg, everybodythat played there, Mark Pryor, And
finally got a chance to walk overthere and go see it, and the
practice field gate was open because thefootball practice fields are right there. And

(01:54:29):
I walked up to the gate andthen I quickly saw like a grounds crew
guy. He came over and heslid the gate and I was like,
oh, I get it. Yeah, there's been some you see, remember
the parkings, the big parking strutchto be on the right field fence.
There's been some. I saw OdB. McDowell. You remember that name,
O McDowell. Yeah, at ArizonaState. He had a ball up
there against our Trojans, because thatwas McGuire and Randy Johnson on that team
that he had a ball halfway intothe middle of that parking structure over the

(01:54:53):
on the top deck of that parkingstructure. Power hitting left in a little
not real tall, but powerful.But there have been some monumental games played
in home runs hitting that building insome pretty good pitching with Randy Johnson and
prior there as well. But yeah, long list of good Trojans. They
need to go back and win aworld in the College World Series would be
nice. But yeah, it's aOldado field. Impressive good times there,

(01:55:15):
But yeah, staying focused on thatcampus, especially in the springtime wasn't the
easiest thing to do, Dan,I was gonna say, bringing it back
up, this is kind of likewe were talking about, you know,
inside baseball, inside jokes earlier.I was about to say the name Pete
Arbagast. You know, yes,obviously, but me seeing Tommy Trojan,
I felt like I was growing amustache like Pete right there, of saying
that, do not mess with TommyTrojan. Down U c l a week

(01:55:38):
and I could tell you another thingabout getting back to it. Who's the
big now that Caleb Williams going,who's the big dog on campus? Think
about this? Is Juju Watkins notone of the most popular Trojans you know
right now? I mean I don'tknow anybody on the USC football team.
I mean I know players, buttrying to find who the quarterbacks can be
highly recruited guys. But as faras who right now is the big the

(01:56:00):
big dog on campus, it mayvery well be her. She is a
phenomenal basketball player, no doubt aboutit, as they've had a lot of
great athletes come through school there atSC. But of course, you know
us here in Texas, we talkLonghorns, we talk yaggies, we do
all those things. As a matterof fact. Here you know radios Theater
of the Mind telling you about SECMedia Days next week, and you're ahead

(01:56:21):
of two it that's it. Meand Gordy gonna be there. So you
know here in SEC country. Herenow to Big twelve country as well.
The coog's just getting back from LasVegas for a Big twelve media days as
well. So football is nigh.That is a good thing. We love
that, all right. Nine o'clockhour is straight ahead. Dan Matthews in

(01:56:43):
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go Lobos. This is the SeanSalisbury Show. And we were talking
about people who make an indelible markon you. He makes an indelible mark
on both of us, and thenwe've all washed him enough, but we
will continue to do it. Thereyou go. But last time Lolima was
out You mean last week? Well, there you go. I may a

(01:59:44):
week ago you met Thomas guys talkingabout a country club. You know,
the guy takes more trips. Hey, when's the last time he went on
trips? Most of us are buta year ago. Where's the last time
he went out of time for fivedays? And then five days ago that
last week? You know, countryclub bitch. Hey. You know,
sometimes sometimes people want to take theirvacation to still work. I know people

(02:00:09):
who do that. Oh I'm I'mlike, that's not a vacation. That's
what I've done that a few times, and I'm like, Sean, what
are you doing. As you getolder, you realize and it's not a
pat of that's believing, it's nota it's not a pattern back. Good
for you take your vacation time.You've earned it, right. Well,
it's like we were talking talk tomyself about that. We were talking about
Bruce arians earlier. You know,if I see you here and you missed

(02:00:30):
a kid's recital, all of that, you're fired, right, And I
mean, and that's the thing too, is right when I was younger,
I was, oh, hey,I've got to be at every rocket scheme.
I got to be at every youknow, Texans practice all of this,
and it's fine. I don't begrudgeit. But it's also too you
realize at the same time, Hey, there's a time for the personal,
there's a time for the It's unrealisticto be at all of them, right,
You don't need to, you know, And quite frankly, I don't

(02:00:51):
want to watch one hundred and sixtytwo games. I do because I watch
now, I'll watch parts of them, right. I'm not going to be
beat myself up if I miss anOakland A's game at nine o'clock at night.
Oh well, the yeah, whenthey're up five runs in the second
inning and you got to get upat three thirty. In my in my
single days, the MLB dot tvaccount was absolutely used a lot more in

(02:01:13):
terms of watching other games. Nowit's I don't even have it anymore because
I don't need it anymore because theteam I care about only watching is the
one right day right here, that'sexactly right. And with our guy,
we would see that. I liketo do this with Ama Lima because if
he's listening on the rate hurd up, you'll pick up the phone a call.
So when you say, oh,what a vacationing country club baseball,

(02:01:33):
Oh yeah, I sean, itwas a work work trip. You watch
kids Rake Ray hit balls in agap and also to wearing his cool coaches
gear that he's got and he's gothis his buddies over there at Apollo Media
taking pictures of Yah, he's probablywearing. He's probably got his coaching staff
instead of baseball instead of shorts orsomething. A hot day probably got him

(02:01:55):
wearing joggers. Yeah, no doubtabout that. Hey where joggers? Or
I mean, do you even goand is this even allowed? And people
can tell me in the travel Baseballworld, can you go to the full
uniform and borrow Dusty's wrist pamps?There you go wear risk pamps a baby
a batting glover too. Like that'sthe thing with with Joe is I'm sure
on opening day a Spota he wearsthe jersey. But I think most managers,

(02:02:17):
you kind of get to a certainpoint undershirt the kind of the code
batting practice shirt, coaches win breakerthere. Nobody needs to know. It's
not like it's not like they're gonnathrow me out for not wearing the full
unit, right that kind of likethat the non jersey unit. But I
imagine I'm trying to, you know, go go Brian into you know here

(02:02:38):
in a scene, what do youguys talking about? But hey, I
guess when you take ten days offin a twelve day span, it's good
to be good to be you,right man? We we already fast forward
in three hours sitting Matt Thomas show. I mean, that's that's what it
sounds like. It is. Itis as soon as you find out it
is a you know, East Coastastro scheme mid afternoon. Oh the a
team doesn't have to do a fullshow? How about that? There they

(02:02:59):
go, Yeah, it's a it'sa to Martini lunch. There you go,
look, you know, yeah,Brian out there coaching him. But
it's all in good fun. Butyeah, triple, I mean, how
many days we got to say,hey, filling in for Brian. Guy's
had more vacation days than he's beenhere the last year. And you show,
you show off to the show beforethe curtain goes up, and they
tell you the understudy is going tobe on stage, and you're like,

(02:03:21):
wait a minute, no, Icame here to see that guy. What
are we doing here? Yeah?Yeah, I feel cheated. My my,
my playbill still says, it's no, We're gonna milk it out.
Of him when he gets back though, Trust for sure, Tripley and I
are going to ride his does heknows stray bullets are coming. Well it's
also too. I mean, Iremember, you know, texting with them
after he got back for that firstshow after coming back from Florida, and

(02:03:43):
I was like, I bet thatwake up was fun. How He's like,
oh man, I'm dragging to day, dragging ass Oh, I know
that flight must have been tough.I'm kidding where I was getting at those
they you know, we told himcome back with the chip. They got
up to the chip last time.Well guess what, you don't come back
from two trips without a chip.There you go and this doesn't even mean

(02:04:06):
I this to me is a hugechip. When his team goes and wins
this, Yeah, why because it'swood bats? Yeah that that that that's
where we're talking. True chip,right, you want to be there?
All true? But you get mypoint. You want to you want to
be you want to be there inseven years. You do it now,
That's exactly I want to do.Those chips when you had that wood bat
and I'm anxious to hear that goes. I haven't seen a wood bat high

(02:04:30):
school tournament or a fourteen another selecttournament, either in a while, wouldn't
it be great? I know thehigh schoolers don't want it. Do they
do that in high school? Nowthey do it, but they do it
like this off season baseball. Mybrother played at Howard Junior College one year
and they in fallball would go wouldokay cool? Yeah? I know they
do it before the end of theselect. I just wonder if any if

(02:04:54):
there's any league in high school acrossthe country that has would bat league only
what you to would batle this thisthis private school league's only wood beats.
The good news pause. It getsexpensive because you know you're gonna break.
Well, there is that I mean, and trust me. I mean in
terms of baseball, the the theequipment to fees do do rack up on
you. But Wilson eight two thousandand eight cheap. Well it's also too.

(02:05:15):
I mean, that's that's exactly itis. I mean, you know,
I talk with a buddy of minewho coaches the Sun that's in travel
ball, and I mean he tellsme some of the things. I'm just
like, jeez, man, youdo you do? You basically just go
right here to to the wallet.And just say, all right, here
we go. Where's that big lighterat Yep, there it is. We're
lighting it on fire. Yeah.What's crazy too, because when I was
going up play a little league orgoing to high schools, like the new

(02:05:39):
cleats which were cheaper, Oh dad, dad, dad, I need these.
Yeah, I've got to have themaluminum. Now it's all perspective because
they were cheaper then than they arenow. But now you got like you
needed like three things. Oh yeah, because you. I don't know about
you, but I never from thetime I got to from about the seventh
or eighth grade on, never gota new baseball glove because the one I
got I loved so much, Andnow I had an extly if I played

(02:06:00):
a different position, like you,we're going to be a catcher. I
had a catcher's glove, but mynormal glove was one I had because it
was so flop it was perfect,right, And in high school, you
weren't worried if you had the webbing, it was open. You weren't worried
about hiding the ball up there asa pitcher, right, so you just
one gloved it. But nowadays it'slike, I gotta have a glove for
this, and then you bought abatting if you wanted a batting glove for

(02:06:20):
two. And then you know,the team would have the pine tar what
have you, and you have aboutthree of them. So it was expensive,
but it was not like now now. It's dude, I never had
to carry a baseball carrying bat bagin my life. That's the thing over
your shoulder. You slid the gloveon the handle, put it over your
should like over your shoulder like HuckFinn carrying a the stick out there with

(02:06:41):
with you know, with the littlepouch and he went to practice. That's
that's how you did nowadays. Well, I got my road cleats and my
home cleats. You got your slidingpads and your non sliding pads. I
got my undersleeves, four different colorsof blue I got. And then the
hat, but you know what,the pine tar. I want my own
tine toar. I don't want toshare with my buddies. And then right
then I got four sets of battinggloves because if it gets sweaty, kind

(02:07:03):
of like we do in golf,you have too much equipment, right,
too many different clothes. I know, it's got to be it's got to
be a grand getting into it.Forget paying for the league, just all
the equipment's gotta be a minute fifteenhundred bucks to start. Sean, you
go out, you go out tosome of these tournaments now, and I
mean, you've got the oven mitsright there, the sliding mits, you've

(02:07:24):
got it put in their back pocketwhen they're not wearing they take their bating
gloves off, Oh no doubt.My favorite was always too the guy that
either had batting gloves on and hestill had batting gloves in his pocket.
It's like, I don't get that. Or even the one who didn't use
batting gloves but they had him intheir back pocket. It's like, what's
the point here. I don't reallyunderstand it. And I still for me
the okay, when I you wearbatting gloves, get on first base.

(02:07:46):
I never took I didn't take themoff. You see some of these teams
now too, showing up in theirown like personalized coach buses, right,
oh yeah, and but they putthe bat they'll take the bag gloves and
put in their back pocket and runwith if they don't put the mid on,
which looks weird, but I knowI know why they're doing it,
But then you're slide. But youdon't have gloves on batting goloes. And
if you don't have a middle,why bear why bear handed? Why wouldn't

(02:08:09):
you keep the batting gloves on?I only see a few guys do it.
Now, keep the same batting goeson you had in the batter's box
fingers, but just a little bit. I mean, I know somebody you
know steps on them. It's gonnahurt regardless. I've never understood I do
get to taking the gloves off toput the mid on. I've never understood
taking the gloves off, took themin your back piet and running bear handed.
I don't know why. You justdon't, Well, you don't want

(02:08:31):
the dirt on the glove? What? And yet you reach down and put
dirt on your batting gloves with yourpine target to get a better grip,
Yet you won't wear I'm running thebases. I've never understood the the the
process of batting. Gloves stayed onuntil I crossed home plate, until it
was out. Then I put themin my helmet. Then they'd run it
over there, and and sometimes you'deven at time I wore a batting glove

(02:08:52):
underneath under the one that didn't youknow, if you didn't have a lot
of pine tarn it back. Butthe batting glove underneath my glove. And
when I played in the outfield nowaday, but I get nowadays, if I
did, I wouldn't wear it becauseI like to feel. I didn't even
like wearing gloves when I played quarterbackin a cold weather day, so as
I got. If I was,I would wear I would be bare handed
underneath the regular baseball glove. ButI don't understand why you take the gloves

(02:09:13):
off if you're not putting the midon to run the bases bare handed when
you got the gloves on when youget the first base. Sean, a
Whi's philosopher once said, you lookgood, you play good, You play
good, They pay good, paygood, you live good, live good,
you die good. Fair enough.That's fair enough. I like that,
DIONI and put that on. Putthat on a put that on a
T shirt. It was it wasone of the best. There you go,

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hey, look, we don't don'tWe don't have to go back to
ancient Greece for great philosophers. We'vegot them all around us. But everything
doesn't have an explanation, and takingyour gloves off to run bare handed,
and not putting a mid on whenyou just warmed with the plate and put
dirt on them anyway, baffling.Oh, but you know it's also seals
you down. You want to bemore streamlined, I guess, well,
you know, and if you ifyou do it kind of the old school

(02:09:56):
way. Oh they're old school.Look a look at that guy. Yeah,
oh yeah, and that mit though, Yeah, that big mit to
talk about wanting to slow you down. That's like having a damn umbrella or
a parachute on you. They're justso damn big. It gets there four
minutes before the player does. It'sthat it's the elbow guards, and it's
it's the the shin guards. Nowit's takes eight minutes to get it all

(02:10:18):
off when you walk the first base. Yeah, that's my favorite. Now,
that's why, that's why every kidwanted to be a catcher. More
army you wear, the more Iwant to hit you in your there you
go. We all say ribcage.Hey, look, hey, you want
you want to you want to tryto take away the inside of my plate.
You're getting hit. That's just asmuch as my plate as it is
your plate. Thank you. Thereyou go. It's the battle, it
is baseball, it's the fun ofit. For sure. He's Sean Salisbury.

(02:10:39):
I'm Dan Matthews, Triple E,Emmanuel Elmore. This is the Sean
Salisbury Show here on your home ofthe Astros and the Rockets Sports Talk seven
ninety. The Jean Salisbury Show continuesas Terrence give us a ring back,
had you there? And then Iguess you know, we turned on we
turned on the stage lights right thereand it was hey, buddy, go

(02:11:01):
Terrence. Terrence is one of ourgreat comedy show guys on this station.
He's awesome. I think I personallyknow him. Great dude. If it's
the Terrence, I'm thinking of what'sup, buddy, how you doing?
Ah? He's the man. Ilove that guy. All right, So
we will continue the Astros conversation.Like I said, Astros winning last night

(02:11:22):
to sixty three over the Marlins.You sweep that series. Now the Rangers
in town. You're five games upon the Rangers, I said last night
on the Astros on Deck show,which usually too in the age of Twitter,
somebody, I don't want to bethat good. But okay, well,
then don't be that guy. Butit's fine if I'm wrong. And
if I'm wrong, I'll admit it, and then I'll say, you know,
I was wrong, damn it,I was wrong. I'll be really

(02:11:45):
hard on myself, and you know, sometimes it happens. But they're five
games up on the Rangers for thisseries, so it's one of those things.
I kind of think about this likeremember the game Deal or No Deal.
Yeah, you know, you pickup on the stage with the The's
beauties or whatever they called the ladiesup there with the briefcases. You pick
number seven, and then you know, you start to you know, taking

(02:12:05):
them all the bank, all ofthat good show, and in the lesson
of the game is sometimes greed canget you beat. Because you had a
case for two hundred and fifty thousanddollars and the banker wanted to buy your
case for I don't know, twosixty five, and you say, oh,
the hell with it, I'm gonnalet it ride. You get all
the way to the end and youfind out in your case one dollar that's

(02:12:26):
all you came away from. Youmade all that way out to southern California
or wherever they did the show,and you could have had two hundred and
sixty five thousand dollars and you gotone dollar. The point is a sweep
would be nice this weekend. Wewould love it, especially with what happened
at the end of last season.YEP series wins, Brother Series wins.
Astros take two out of three againsta team that's been winning five of their

(02:12:46):
last six games. I'm not gonnacome away from it saying, oh,
man, you should have done this, you should have done that. No,
I'm gonna say, hey, nowyou got a six game lead on
those guys, all right, twoout of three here would be eighteen of
your last twenty three and that willget you places. It should and it

(02:13:07):
will. It gets you places youhope come back rested. The Tucker and
Verlander aren't far away that al twoVay's hand continues to heal. Obviously he's
not going to play in it.Did you get a couple of swings at
the bat for yourd on? Andthen he goes and sits down and relaxes
that. Blanco continues his run,Hunter Brown continues his quest to be a

(02:13:28):
dominant guy. Arraghetty and Pereghetty continueYeah, give you logging innings for you
and doing some really good things.And then fromber gives us the good fromber
all the time, at least mostof the time. We need hashtag good
Fromber all the time, yep.And then your forty stay some healthy.
Jake Myers continues to do his thing, and then you get your the the
you know, some production at firstbase and the other guys, and the

(02:13:48):
other guys were think about the otherguys that have produced. Dubond's always going
to contribute. Sure, Jake Myerswas well a starter. You didn't look
at him to be. That's aseven eight nine type hitter. Jake Myer's
done a hell of a job thisyear, low Perffito. You've had to
call guys up Trey Caps Scott inthe bullpen and you start to go through

(02:14:09):
it. If the back end ofthe bullpen pitches like we expected them when
the season started that they were bingobango and bongo, lights out, and
then the health kicks back in,you get Tucker back and you're able to
continue. Now you're not gonna goeighteen to twenty three four different times in
the second half season. You're justnot. That'd be too many games.

(02:14:31):
Anyway, you get my point.You're not gonna have that many streaks.
But as long as you can limitand not let that two game losing streak
stays two games, it doesn't endup five or six, and you keep
winning series. As you said,you'll win the division if that is the
case, regardless of the staff thatSeattle has. So but think about the
other guys this year. The starsare always important. Now, in the

(02:14:54):
last twenty games, how many hasKyle Tucker played? Maybe since June third?
Yeah, so that would tell meit's in and you're not a better
baseball team without Kyle Tucker. You'vejust performed. You've just performed, You've
played well. Your guys have steppedup, realizing a great players out.
So sixteen to twenty you're gonna getbetter when Tucker comes back, and hopefully

(02:15:16):
the record stays like it is andyou continue to win. But you start
to look at the stars and thento look at the other guys, the
other guys that have come in anddone there. Just listen, you've had
to get some production from Singleton lowPerfeto. We've talked the names, we
mention hell. Even when Victor Carratinicomes back, and look what he's done
for the team before he was injured. We keep forgetting he's been he's been

(02:15:39):
out a minute too, and howimportant he's been to this team with a
bat and the way he's filled inand spelled uh, you know Yin or
Diaz and Dias. We expected stufffrom him this year. So the point
is, is that a lot ofguys that you didn't expect stuff from.
But isn't that the case on alot of teams in a lot of sports.
You didn't expect your backup linebacker tomake one hundred tackles. You didn't
expect your backup tighting to catch sixtyballs when your starter got hurt. That's

(02:16:01):
what good teams do. And thisteam now and the coarrier team usually a
lot of times, isn't the superstars. A lot of times it's the other
guys that you know, because ofinjury or attrition, have to step in
and do their job. And sixteenout of twenty is a streak that most
teams would pine for this year.We call those guys the glue guys exactly,

(02:16:22):
that's what they are. He didn'texpect the glue guys to be some
of the guys that are glue guysright now. Well, I mean and
it's also too the glue guys.I mean again, you need glue to
you know, hold the thing together. You need the cement to hold the
things together. Guerrilla glue brother.Well, I mean yes, and last
year, I mean we saw thatwith Mauricio Dubon and with Chaz McCormick.
This year, Mauricio Dubon, Chazz, he'd liked for him to get going
a little bit more. But theTrey Cabbages, I mean, you know,

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it's one of those things. Blanco, you didn't listen. You could
tell me what you want renewe.Blanco's never been a starter in the major
leagues on a consistent basis in arotation, and he's their best pitcher,
period and they are six or sevengames over fire, nine games over five
nine I think nine when he pitchesis Robert Fla said a nine game when
when he starts, Derek and whenhe doesn't, they're six games under.

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Well, it's it's also to yesterdayobviously to your games. Now to your
point about Taylor Scott, I meanme and Ross Villa Rial we're talking about
once we were hosting a show together. We're in the clubhouse there in West
Palm Beach, and you know,we're trying to go talk to Dylan Coleman,
who has pitched for a little bitfor the Astros this year, but
not much, And hey, who'sthis guy with the South African flag on

(02:17:26):
his glove and he's got the mustacheand he's got kind of the undershave haircut
right there? Like, who isthat guy? And then you see him
go out there in spring training andyou're like, oh, okay, that's
not bad. I don't know ifhe's gonna make the roster though. He
makes the roster a little shaky atthe beginning, but then now he's become
what he's become, should be anAll star. I said the same thing.
We're talking about Renel Blanco for that, and I understand he's gonna pitch

(02:17:48):
on Sundays, so not likely,but you're talking about somebody who should be
added to that roster. I thinkif I'm Joe Espada and you maybe want
to bend the ear this weekend ofBruce Bochie saying, hey, we're gonna
throw a guy at you in themiddle of relief. Take a look at
that guy. Now, Oh,Boachi knows who he is. You and
I both know that. Maybe notlike Joe, but Bochie knows who he
is and he's he's been a bigpart of it. Now, you tell

(02:18:09):
me a guy you've ever counted onwho's been on seven teams and seven years
in any sport. Not meaning there'sthat glue you're talking about, is there
the minute they have you there theminute they're looking to replace you? Then
they always and every year that's whatthey're doing because you know what you're labeled
now a journeyman. Well, Imean and it's also too, I mean,

(02:18:31):
kind of reaches the point where oldand expensive is not good, young
and cheap is even better. Andguess what for Taylor Scott, guess what's
not happening. He'll be seven teamsand eight years. He ain't going anywhere.
This dude, I wouldn't he's been. If he continues this, that
is that guy you have to havein your bullpen. But you never resilience.
Hey, I've always said they gotthirty two teams of football. Play

(02:18:52):
with them all if if you wantto keep playing, and they'll give you
a chance, keep playing. Nowthis dude said, Okay, one team
the money cash is in every dateand now he's pitching like a guy that
you you you need him. Theywould not be in this situation if his
ass isn't doing eating up innings andpitching well, not just eating innings but
pitching. Well, yeah, goodon him. Seventeen seven years. Look

(02:19:15):
at what he's done. He's thestaple and the talk about glue in a
bullpen. Dude's been phenomenal. He'sbeen I mean for times when you've really
needed to be able to find someyou know, solid outings out of that
group. I mean, hem,Seth Martinez, Sean Duban, I don't
think it's enough. And Dugan's gonnaget some more starts. Dude, he's
going to six man or two.He's gonna get some more starts. He
just is, and I'll be damnedif he If he hasn't you know the

(02:19:39):
guy they keep leaning on. Butyou just named three names that at the
beginning of this year. Those threeguys were not supposed to be able to
do it. Some weren't even supposedto be on a damn roster. Yeah,
I mean they here, they arebouncing around. So it's one of
those you can't expect much of thoseguys, but they've delivered, there's no
doubt about it, and the Astrosare thankful for so we'll continue the conversation.

(02:20:01):
John Biscuits, see you guys there. You want to weigh in,
you can SEB one three two onetwo five, seven ninety. We continue
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always got to be on your toeswith Matt. Would be some stray bullets,
fine, oh absolutely, yeah.I liketras. You got you got
a duck for you got you gota duck for cover? Oh you do?

(02:22:31):
Yeah, you do? Danny Well, I mean, look, you
know you gotta take your lumps sometimes. I mean it's it's kind of like
we've we've done the mob movie lines. Today. You know, hey,
I got pinched yeah, yeah,you got pinched, but you did it
right. Yeah, you gave themnothing. And what are the two things
to remember? Never read on yourfriends and always keep your mouth shut.

(02:22:54):
Right, those were the wise wordsfrom one Jimmy Conway to a young Henry
Hill, and those two are exactlyright. Yeah, don't don't dog a
friend. Don't don't do it.There you go, don't do it.
If you treat them right, they'rethere forever. If you don't, well,
then you're the one picking up thepieces. John wants to weigh in
here on Sports Talk seven ninety John, what's going on? Buddy? Hey,

(02:23:16):
guys, Uh, you just tofollow up what you were saying.
The Astros have developed a lot ofgood pieces that are gonna that are gonna
make a difference in the grind aswe get into August and September. I
feel very optimistic, uh, youknow, as we go forward. You
know, this month could be abig month because you know, we got
the Rangers in town and then wegot the Mariners after the All Star break,

(02:23:37):
so the Astros could uh easily findthem So I shouldn't say easily,
but they could find themselves in firstplace and then just uh, I think
I think the Division crown will looklook very gettable for them. John,
think about what we're saying, myman and finished. It's just from from
forty five days ago to now thatin a matter of two series half and

(02:24:01):
they control it. Because even ifit's I's say they beat the Rangers and
Mariners sweep their next series and they'rein the same position they're in when they
go to the All Star Game andthen they come out of it. Mariners,
come here, you take care ofthe Mariners. You're in first place.
I mean it's literally within six gamesor five games or four games,
they are literally in position now.Even if the Rangers take care of their

(02:24:22):
business this weekend in their in theirseries, did they get to come to
you? Literally? And who wouldhave thunked that forty five days ago.
I never I never dreamed it.But I think if the Astros can get
in the first place, I don'tthink they're going to lose it. I
think they're just going to keep marchingforward and I think it's going to look
great. And I got to makea comment, you know, like I
watched I watched every Astros game.You know that Toronto series was h was

(02:24:48):
really telling and I think Bregman Iprobably just gonna hate to lose him,
but he's playing at elite level.You know, the way he's playing third
base. I mean, he's makingplays that I think people don't appreciate.
But he's making some really difficult plays. Look look, look easy, you
know I should say. And I'vebeen really impressive, Bragman over the past
month. I really really have.And I think some of these players are

(02:25:11):
really getting locked in, and Ihave a very very good feeling about this
team going forward. I really reallydid awesome, great point, John,
and Bregman looks like the guy thatwe expect. And look the confidences there
and looks like guys's been get paid. If this keeps up, well,
good stuff, brother, Thanks,and let's give Jake Bloss a little credit
for last night. For sure,what four innings, fifty plus pitches needed

(02:25:31):
innings needed a good outing, eventhough it was even it's Miami, you
still needed a good outing. Andgood for him up down, you know,
bothered have to get her after thefirst his first start and was sitting
down back up and now look neededthose even though there's only four of them.
You needed those innings last night,you know, I know that batting
average is one that a lot ofthe uh you know, analytics heads out

(02:25:52):
there will look at now and say, oh, antiquated stat. But three
o eight this month, three tenlast month, and it's spot on point
right there by John. You know, kind of one of those things,
Oh, you don't win this gameif you don't have that. They don't
win that final game in Toronto ifyou don't have his defense over at third.
I mean, he was unreal interms of double play there, unassisted

(02:26:13):
to close out an inning where itlimited the damage, where you thought to
yourself, here's Fromber again. Theinning is spiraling out of control, and
he got one right at a guyand he made a play. One thing
through Bregman's struggles at the plate thisyear, early in the season, he's
obviously hitting. He's still the power, the extra base hits, he's hitting

(02:26:33):
more doubles, and you know,he's always got as good eye as there
is in baseball. He's gonna drawwalks, he's gonna have an on base
percentage, and he'll start to slugI would imagine more as it gets going,
let's hope. So, but heis the guy is just a he's
got a great approach at the plate. Well, even through his struggles,
the one thing that he never letwaiver is is incredible defensive play man.

(02:26:58):
And if that can be hard todo to compartmentalize a struggle at the plate
where you're not who doesn't when youwalk out and think, I cannot believe
I popped up to the first basementagain when I got to be better than
that, and then a ball shitdown the line, you backhanded boom,
throw a guy out. Well,I mean, that's a lot of it's
it's a lot of mental toughness outof there too. Not a lot of
it is where we know he's good. That is mental toughness through and through.

(02:27:22):
How many guys do you know thatstruggle at the plate and then they
carry it out there into the field. And that's human that's the human nature
part and the other part of itas well as I mean, he's bat
in two fifty four now, thatalmost probably has to feel like three fifty
four. With the way that hewas hitting at the beginning of the season.
Well, in a month of sometimein the month of June late May

(02:27:43):
June, wasn't he hitting two oseven just above the Mendoza line, right.
I mean, I think even attimes he was beloved like a buck
ninety eight or right. And I'mtalking about like when we started June.
I don't know. I guess beeasy to find on June first what his
average was or on May twenty eight. By around Memorial Day we are still
man is two oh seven to ten, and it's crept up and it's not

(02:28:07):
going south. By the time theseason's over, Yeah, it'll head the
other it'll continue to head north.Now if that ends up two seventy five
or two eighty two or two sixtyfive, who knows. But the worst
part of Alex bregmant season at theplate is behind him. Well, I
mean the low water mark was Aprilfirst, he was batting one fifty eight.
At the end of May he wasbatting two nineteen oka. So there
you go, and which is stillfar below his standards. But here's the

(02:28:30):
other part of all of this aswell. I mean, we talk about
the Mariners and what's sustainable, what'snot. What's the one thing that has
remained true with the Astros. Youhit, you win. You know that
with this team that is the case. The Mariners can't look at it that
way the Mariners are to pitch,well, they have to pitch. There's
no there's no other way. Imean not just pitch. Pitch remarkably because
you're getting a down year from JulioRodriguez. I mean cal Rawley for everything

(02:28:54):
he's doing, he's great, he'sbatting like two toh eight. So I
mean you've got a team that justhonestly, you look at it, what's
what's sustainable? What's not? TheMariners their method right now and I don't
really how you know who they are. How much can you necessarily add to
that lineup to overtake what the Astroshave in their lineup that it sometimes might
not be firing on all cylinders.That's not sustainable. Right. The names

(02:29:16):
may be different, you know,I'm not talking about a Rosa Rain or
that, but when, h what'smy guy from the manager before, even
with the current manager, but thethe manager before who went to the Angels,
Ron Washington, No, no,no, no, no, the
manager in Tampa, Oh, JoeJoe Madden. Yeah, Madden before when

(02:29:37):
Madden was there and then leading intothe early time they and now they've gotten
better with the bats, but what'salways carried them pitching now, pitching,
pitching, pitching, and they wouldjust never go away, right, It's
like it's kind of like Cleveland.No, I know, Rare Maers,
but when with with with with withTito there and they replaced management, they
always just never go away. Getgood pitching, timely hitting Seattle and and

(02:29:58):
see kind of Tampa. I'm talkingabout much not an extended amount of a
body of work basis, but thisyear, how many times you see Tampa
hang around because they're pitching staff kepthim in it, kept a minute,
get a clutch hit here and there, but until you know, they started
to get some more power. Thosedays with Madden, they change the lineup
four hundred times, trying to geta guy hot, clean up, hitter,

(02:30:20):
hitt and the lead off, andthey'd hang around. Their pitching would
keep minute, and they'd keep divisioncomes around. Tampa's in it, and
you knew pitching Seattle right now,good pitching staff, the staffs care.
How you're not you're not counting ontheir hitters to dominate the league. I
mean they were just you'd get you'dget stuff from some hitters, right,
but I'm talking about you didn't goin fearing the hitting. The timely hitting.

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Yes, you feared the pitching staff. Now Seattle's similar with a less
body of work because Tampa has beendoing it for a longer time. It's
culture and fit. I mean,that's that's what sustains. If you have
culture and then yeah, you havesome new faces in there, but are
they the right guy? I meanthat's what that culture is part of.
You hear it all the time fromhead coaches, managers, general managers,

(02:31:03):
whoever it might be. We gotto find the right guests. Seattle wins
the division. When we're all saidand done, it's gonna be we're gonna
stand up and say what an unbelievablejob the pitching staff did, because it's
not gonna be the hitting. Yeah, they're just we got enough by We've
got enough body of working time thisseason to know that they'll grind it out
like Roley's home run off hater earlyin the season. But they're not.
You don't go up saying, ohmy gosh, from one to nine.

(02:31:26):
They exhaust me like the Rangers didlast year, Like the like the when
the Yankees are going good, orthe Dodgers or the Philadelphia Phillis like enough
enough and the Astros have been likethat at the end of the season.
If Seattle's able to hold this off, they are going to get their pitching
staff will have been off the charts. I'm not sure they can sustain it
with they're hitting now. I'm inthat camp as well. It's not as

(02:31:48):
much a believer. So we willcontinue to wrap up the Astros conversation here
again the Astros get the Rangers intown to start a weekend series tonight.
Biscuits yere right there. Will getto you as well on the other side
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The Sean Salisbury Show continues. Let'sgo one Sports Talk seven ninety.
You know it's not a Sean Salisburyshow if we don't hear from Biscuit Biscuit
with somebody. Hey, man,tripple damning over there. Man, it's
good, I'm telling you. Hesets the tongue. We were talking about.
Glue guys, hellumber one blue guyright there. Hell of a music.

(02:34:24):
Friday Brother always is Hey, that'severy day on this show. Yeah,
man, Hey, Dan Shine,and we all need a flash light
right about now, Man, CityMan, you ain't lying, yes,
sir, but let me say this, man, Shine, you know,
and I don't know if they an'tknow, but Shan you know how many
times Shine I called it? Heyman, long season, right, minimum

(02:34:46):
once a week, minimum, oncea week. You've been preaching it.
If he wanted to get rid ofStrada, break the need to do that
now, man, we all right, this is long season. Just let
Tucker go. Let let don't timeTucker trade Bregman Joe as Spotted deserves.
You got a fire and Spoted.Yeah, and we need to get rid

(02:35:07):
of it now. Man. JakeMyers, Jake Myers can't play. Let's
get rid of him. That's all. Hell yeah, it's called being a
fan and media. Brother. Theplayers are looking at us like you're out
of your mind. We got tostay the course, and the rest of
us are like, what you gottatrade the guy who went over because it's
not it's not fun sports radio.You know that, You like, hey,

(02:35:28):
stay the course here, no,no, no hot takes. Let's
go me. You know this,after all those years with the Lakers Celtics
matchups, is it winning? Youknow? Players never get bored? Was
like, oh, I need tosign a bitch about so Lakers lose a
game or something, so we cancomplain about it back in the day.
Yeah, it's much more exciting talkwhen you got something to bitch about that

(02:35:50):
you do cheer about. It's ait's a crack up, but that's how
we all are. I don't knowwhy, but it is. It's a
weird phenomenon, brother, Yes itis. I will say it is.
Uh and with Swringer and and Koreaand modern all them gone. Yep.
Sometimes you have a player on theteam, but when they start going,

(02:36:11):
it just picks everybody else up.Yep. And it seems to be Bregman
is the guy. And so oncehe picked it up, it's like it
just trickled down to a whole lotof other people. Hey, Biscuit,
remember when I I know you listenedto the Dane of brown Stuff on Wednesday
too. You remember when I askedhim about maybe six to eight weeks ago,
six weeks ago, month and ahalf, I said, if this
gets turned around, I said,give me one name. And I know

(02:36:33):
Triple you remember this. They said, give me one name that has to
that it has to be the bigdog for you guys and turn this thing
around. And I said, thatleads this thing and get you going.
He did not hesitate He didn't sayTucker, he didn't say a pitcher,
he didn't say Yalvres. He saidBregman came out of his mouth before I
even finished the sentence. I remember, and Bregman was hitting about two hundred.

(02:36:56):
Then. I think Dana Brown hasa clue about how to scout talent.
And he's right. It's become contagious. And you're exactly right with this,
Biscuit. Well, it's a it'sa locker room thing. Shoun is
something that we can't see, youknow what. I always in the locker
room, so you know within thelocker room who the guys look to.
You know, it's something as fans, we're not in the locker room.

(02:37:20):
We can't tell. That's right.They're always closer and they're always closer than
Shine. Let me say this,the most egregious thing dan is Shine.
I gotta say it, man,real quick. But no way in at
l L you take White over Brown. Come on, man, Brown should
be on this. I said ityesterday. I said it's inpreciable. But
all the things, Biscuit great,call great. Derek White really give me

(02:37:43):
he's a good player. Yeah,Jalen Brown not being on the Olympic team
is sinful. Boy, I'm sosadful. I'm so sad I couldn't give
my hot take about how this isthe greatest Olympic team ever, you know,
not to dream team. Friggin stopit. I mean, it was
gonna be a great hot tea.One of the best ten players isn't on

(02:38:03):
the Olympic team. It's not thedream team. They're good and they're gonna
win it now. He was asthe then Eastern Conference Finals MVU and then
they gave it to Tatum and thenthat's fine, but then the finals MVP
Jalen Brown. It's absolutely it's matterof fact, it might be the laugher
of the year. No disrespect toWhite that Jalen Brown is not an Olympian.

(02:38:28):
There's nothing he doesn't do well andgreat on the basketball court. All
that's crazy. It's to the pointwhere it's almost eye rolling. You want
to win a gold medal? Iwant championship, guys. A guy just
won a championship, so and wasa big reason why. For sure they
want a championship. Stuff Dan there, tripley great stuff to all of our
listeners. There we go next tous right here. Sports Talk seven to ninety