Astros Win Opening Day, Rockets Beat Jazz, NCAA Madness Tournament Rolls On!

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salsbury. O, y.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Sewan Salisbury to usc troupe, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Dan Matthewscus. This is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
Opening day from or the win Josh Hater having the
hold on to get to save Rockets beat the Jazz
one twenty one to one ten in Utah and the Alabama,
Florida Duke and Texas Tech moving on to the Elite eight.
The first three had the easiest time, Tech though trailing
at the half to Arkansas had to come back, tie

(00:44):
it up, send it to ot. They get a runner
with seconds left. Then Arkansas cannot make one at the
other end, so they're moving on and uh, you know
Sean will get to the Astros in just a second.
And you know, I'm sure that probably with us having
the early morning, you had to get up and see
the highlights of how that game went, because I mean
it ended at close to midnight, it seems like. But

(01:05):
I mean, you're setting up for tomorrow. You got Alabama
Duke and you've got Florida Texas Tech for chances to
move on to the final four. I know a lot
of people out there are doing the belly aching and
the gnashing of teeth and the clutching of pearls, all
those different types of things about.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Now and there are any nothing wrong with clutching some pearls.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
Well, I mean if they're if they're real and there's
something of value, then yeah, sure clutch them. You absolutely do,
because that's that's a lot of scratch that can be
coming your way.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
Do you ever say, clutch them if you got them,
or is that simply just reserved to smoke them if
you got them.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
I was gonna say smoke them if you got them,
because I feel like the first one you said, it's
almost kind of like you ate something that's not sitting
right with you. Yeah, you know, then you then you
probably need to do that because you don't want to
be known as that guy like I feel like that
happens to you and you know other people catch wind
of it, which you know pun intended. Then it's that
that's the scarlet letter. You can never get rid of it.

(02:00):
It's like, you know, hey, there goes there goes Sean. Yeah,
do you hear about what happened?

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Though?

Speaker 5 (02:04):
You don't want to clutch? No, actually you do want
to clutch. You want to clutch right yeah. Yeah, but
if there's some pearls, righty clutch them. Sure, you know
what I'm saying. Yeah, for the eight are in for
the Elite eight. Three of them the Texas Tech Saint
John's bracket that rolls over there and into the you
know that, uh that I didn't that's the one of

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the eight that I will not have. I actually I
still think I think that uh uh takes care of
their business and Tennessee takes care of their business, is
my opinion. Which gets you to that. And then then
the Auburn Michigan State. I got Michigan State beating Auburn,
so I'm not sure about that one. Yeah, but we'll see,
is it.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
So it's Michigan State, ole Miss and then Michigan State
about in the elite in alite I got Miss, Auburn
and Michigan State getting to this.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
Point, and I and I think that, uh, I think
that we'll.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Have that in the Elite eight.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
I had Michigan.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
I had Michigan, Michigan State and the elite eate so
st Michigan handling Auburn, I think so yeah, yeah, so
we'll get that game tonight as well as uh in
Purdue coming your way over on KPRC nine p. Fifty
and it's I mean, you know, look, you want to
talk about a weekend where I mean, I know it's
raining right now. I think it's supposed rain a little
bit tomorrow, So I mean, just a perfect opportunity to

(03:22):
be able to find a TV. Maybe your couch is
sitting in front of it. Maybe you go to a
place where they serve beer on tap, all those different
types of things. Maybe that's for you. I mean, you know,
I don't know, there's a lot of maybe's out there. Yeah,
saying that the constant here is a TV in front
of you is what should be the weekend.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
Hoops, baseball, golf actually to the Houston Open here as well,
and getting back to that basketball part of it. You know,
I've loved Michigan throughout the tournament. I was been riding
them for a while. I just I almost feel like
the Bruce Pearls team the elimination early last year.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
I just like they're going to hang in there.

Speaker 5 (04:00):
But I'm telling you what, Michigan's good enough on this
role to win the thing.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
So that tonight's game is going to be big.

Speaker 5 (04:08):
And then Obviously you roll into the big ones next time,
which would be what Saturdays, which you know, Saturday and Sunday,
and then and we'll be down to four. I'm anxious
to see and then they get your butt to San Antonio.
But we've had some good games and the teams that
were at this stage what we've talked about, it's really
hard to pull off major upsets, right. It just is

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because of the one or two games one thing. But
you got us to do it four or five, six
times against teams that are stacked and are deep. That's
where the disadvantage comes in and you've got to play,
you know, you have to have an out of body
experience if you're a lower seed. Although these are all
good teams to run through it. But we're at the
point now where who's the lowest seed left?

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Is it? I'm just trying to think, is it Michigan? Well?

Speaker 5 (04:53):
I think so because we got Ted Duke one, Bama two,
UH one, Tennessee two, and then you have Texas Texas three.
Florida is a one, Michigan State's a two, Auburn's a one.
It is a Michigan Wolverine. Yeah, and they are very
capable the champion, damn right, and and understand the physical
side of banging and feeling not momentum, but confidence. You know,

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they got to be they got to be feeling like
they can go in almost as if the way they're
playing that Auburn's chasing them a little bit, and Auburn's
the one seed, so it should be a hell of
a game.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
And I mean those games being played in Atlanta, which Auburn.
I mean, it's basically a suburb of Atlanta. Has so
many alums there, so that's gonna be a full building
of people yelling out war Eagle and Ole Miss playing there.
I mean, not that far from Oxford to there, and
a lot of graduates already there. So both the Michigan
schools I think going to be on the short end,
but don't count them out. I mean the Snowbirds are

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down there too, of saying, hey, this this is a
nice area.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
I want to stay down here, kind of like down here.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
It's rare that the way a guy is coaching, and
you know my feelings obviously for Kelvin here. We got
some phenomenal coaches left to this tournament. And Tom the way,
I'm telling you, the guy that is that this is
one where you say, Hislo has been doing this for
a long time and as good as there is. But
you just want to talk about impact on coaching. No

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matter what he does, Chris Beard can coach. And you
know you think, come on, Old Miss Michigan State, this
is too blue blood for them. I'm going to tell
you it's rare that Beard gets out coached, and he's
going against a guy that's out coached a million guys
in tournament playing in basketball and is one of the
great legends we have. But I assure you tom Izzo

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realizes not only how good Beard is, but how good
Old Miss is playing right now.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
So you're right.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
I mean, this is one of those that one the
Michigan that we thought Meaning State was better than the
other Michigan may very well be. You could be staring
easily easily at an Old Miss Michigan Elite eight, you
really could, and in that bracket. But you know, at
this point, Auburn Michigan State I think are the better teams.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
But it's not always a better team. It's who's playing better.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
Sure when it's in the tournament, and the confidence that
Ole Miss has got to be playing with and I
think Beard when he his coaching, his personality almost feels like.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
We're not an underdog to anybody, man, don't you You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
There's a feeling about him that I would imagine if
I feel it through the TV, that there's this way
of in his locker room his guys like, we're not
We're not we're not the doormat to these other big
schools because we're formerly we're SEC football.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Ole Miss.

Speaker 5 (07:28):
Come on, we're not supposed to be doing this now.
Where he goes, they win, and I assure you Tommyzo's
team will not take them lightly.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
Only a three and a half point favorite of the Spartans,
there's well there's your answer. So I mean it's basically
a toss up game in that regard. So yeah, Chris Beard,
he's impressive. I mean, you know, taking Texas Tech to
the champions.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
And Miss is your lowest seed still left.

Speaker 5 (07:48):
I'm talking about if you got to the eight, if
Michigan wins and ole Miss doesn't. As we sit today,
I think ole Miss is the one.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
What a five? Are they a four or five? Five seed?
Maybe they are.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Let's say, yeah, there's a six that's right.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, and Michigan five, Yeah, I think right.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
So so those two and it would not be a
major upset in my mind, a six versus two and
a five versa one. The way that those two teams
are playing Ole Miss in Michigan, you should not be
shocked what the result is tonight, although my bracket has
both Auburn and Michigan State winning, but I don't I'm
not overly comfortable with the Auburn Michigan game right now.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
Dismantled a really good Iowa State team too, and you
of h fans saw that first hand over at Fortita
Center a few weeks ago, that that was a team
that looked like they could go toe to toe with
pretty much anybody in the country. And uh, and ole
Miss went into that game and basically said, yeah, hey,
not gonna be your day, so good luck. Try again
next year and we're gonna be moving on. So that's

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exactly what they did. But yeah, you have age taken
on Purdue Sweet sixteen tonight. I mean, you know, we've
already been through the storylines too. Of that's gonna be
a full boiler maker building there inside Lucas Oil Stadium,
and I mean, even if you get through that, there's
no reprieve because either Kentucky or Tennessee, who again not

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all that far from Indianapolis, They're going to be there.
But as Kelvin Sampson and his team have proven numerous
times this year away games undefeated eleven to zero, six
and three in neutral site games, and those neutral site
games that they lost were in the first month of
the season.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, this is.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
If you were looking across the country at a team
that travels, meaning I'm not even talking about fans going
with them. I'm talking about just they are not intimidated
by another building or another team. There's no better in
the country going on the road. They They've had a
phenomenal season and nantsy ability. I've been around coaches the
treat going on the road. I remember Denny Green, and

(09:44):
the only reason I compared it, there's some similarities the
way Denny and Calvin went about their business right, the
structure and the business. Just from my vantaged point and
listening to coach Sampson talk, Denny was, I don't care
if the team bus is late, if the food we
get served is cold, and he goes and you should
prepare for it. You know, if the bus taking us
too is late leaving the hotel, if you wake up

(10:07):
for a pregame meal, and the food that they didn't
keep it, All the things that go that are irritants, right,
the little once the ball thrown up, you just you know,
we just go do your thing. Once the ball's rolled
out there, let's go play. But he would when need
to talk about that, he made it as if and
he goes, we're out of the ticket business once Wednesday hits,
meaning the only your family don't have them to call
in her friends calling on Friday before a Sunday game

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because you won't get any more tickets. So he wanted
all that business taking care of on the road if
you're going somewhere, and even if you're at home, but
the road, he made it feel like none of that matters,
nobody cares. And the truth is nobody does care. If
you go on there, you know the pregame reportal their
bus was late getting it's yeah, oh my gosh. If
if you're a part of that organization or team, you're

(10:51):
like our team bus, Are they okay?

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Are they pissed? What are they doing?

Speaker 5 (10:54):
Did take them away from their routine and that's exactly
why he did it. Matter of fact, at times he
did it so there was an irritant, So there was
some kind of duress or stress to see how you
handle it, you know, some simple and it's true the
little things. Honestly, it's never the big things like oh,
the planes twenty minutes leaving and we'll make up for it.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
No big deal.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
Short in a meeting, not a big deal. But the
little things like pregame meal, my eggs are cold. I
know that sounds so like, what's the word I'm first
to say, it sounds so snobbish. Yeah it is, but
you go down for breakfast. Those are the little things
on the foundation. It's not the big thing. It's like
in a game when you give up a kickoff on

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the opening, you know return, that's a big thing.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
But it's not like you know, we lost the game.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
Yeah yeah, you're like, okay, they woke us up, right,
Sure we'll go. We got fifty nine and minutes and
forty five seconds to go to right again. It actually sometimes,
if you notice, sometimes a team that starts fast and
the other team, the other team wakes up quicker right,
and it's a quick response instead of just getting lulled.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
That's slow death, right. But it's the little thing.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
What would make a difference is if you tackled the
guy back at the twenty or all of a sudden
offensively you returned the game. You were turning the opening
kickoff for a touchdown holding at a guy across the
field that was never going to be in the play.
That's one of the little things you say which turns
into a big thing, like, dude, everything else was perfect.
What are you doing right, Because then you start to
think that's self inflicted. We didn't need that's just like

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dumb football, right. The guy's away, dude, he even if
you don't touch him. Coach will get on your ass
on the film. But you're helping your team. He ain't
running his ass down. That guy runs four to three.
That just took it to the house. So it's the
little things. And so with Kelvin going on the road,
you don't just go on the road and win because
you're a great team, because it's hard to win.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
College basketball's got some brutal venues.

Speaker 5 (12:44):
But you have to prepare your team to go and say,
I don't think it's you know, create it like it's
not a big deal. You have to make it feel
like home, and then you also have to play. We're
getting booed and going this is the best way to win.
There's nothing better than walking out of him. It's even
better than walking out at home, walking out in a
big game of an opponent's building and kicking their ass
and then you get to take it back home where

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you know whatever that is. During like a regular season game,
you're like, I win an allen Field house.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
We kick their ass. You're supposed to win at home.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
When you go in there and they're booing you and
mad and you're taking them out of the game, that's
epic in my way. It's always been that way. When
we're in Minnesota, can go win in Green Bay? That
there was That's how you want to do or you know,
I'm sure when Chakaga come played us and when we
beat them in their building, those rivals. Anytime you go
on the road, let alone rival games, So you got
to prepare for it. This team looks as if when
they go on the road, even though they got this

(13:33):
phenomenal building and take care of their business at home,
you got to be able to win on the road
because in truth, most of the time the NC two
a tournament, you're not playing it. I mean, Purdue gets
one basically tonight, but you don't. You don't get lucky. Now,
if the Houston wins, they kind of get one too
in the final four, right return, they can get to
the four.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
But you have to treat it.

Speaker 5 (13:53):
And so during the regular season you've prepared yourself to
go on the road because most of the time in
the tournament you're not playing in a building that you're
used to playing it.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
Back to the field, back to the court, that's what
you want, because what is that that's people heading for
the exits. Yeah, that's them saying the saint going to
go our way. Let's get to jump on trapping and
that's getting.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
Better and going in front of their families and their
you know, wives, girlfriends, kids, the rest of it, and
their university, their sororities and fraternities and kicking their ass
and walking out and that's the point. But it's the
little things, the little distractions that bury teams because they
let them. You got to get rid of that OCD
you're feeling, and you have to prepare for in truth,
you got to say, prepare for chaos.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
And if it goes smoothly, then all is.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
Great on the road because something's going to go You're
so the elevator is gonna get stuck. I'm just telling you, dude,
it's it's uncanny, uncanny. And when people say, well, was
that really big a deal? You can't imagine this the
superstitious athletes and I'm one of them, or the OCD.
Then when you disrupt and I got to get to

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the stadium twenty minutes later because of that, Oh dude,
it's it's not only an irritant, it's one of those
things that takes you off your game, right. It's like
a golfer who stands over a putt to win and
somebody they hear a camera and then they got to
back off and go through their whole routine again. In
inevitably at times, what do they do? They can't get
back in their team and they freaking miss it on
the amateur shit push it right right exactly. So I

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don't the fact that it's a road game doesn't concern
me one frickin bit when it comes to Kelvin Sampson's
team tonight, it.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
Just doesn't probably enjoys thriving on that chaos. I think,
I mean that seems like that's the way their program
has been. All right, coming up next the first test,
I'd say pass. We'll talk about that right here. It
is the Sean Salisbury Show, Sports SOX seven ninety.

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Speaker 4 (17:34):
And play a little bit later on today. But it
is the Sean Salisbury Show here on Sports Talk seven
ninety And you know, Sean, I mean Cam Smith gets
that first start, he's out in right field and that
first app bat after Jeremy pania wears one off the hand,
which at first you're just kind of like, oh, come on, man,
like this is a team that just cannot afford to

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have a guy like him be out for a prolonged
period of time. He was fine, obviously, I mean he
was able to make it over to first and then
Cam Smith able to find one right through that open
gap on the right side of the infield and Jeremy
Pinya uses the speed and gets all the way a third.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
Yeah, I would think you're first at bat, family there,
friends there, all the pipe, all the hype, all the
pub which would be normal for all of us to
try to pull the ball, hit it over the fence
to get to have that if I mean, the normal
would be to try and do a little bit more
than you need to do. Honestly, that would be my

(18:32):
first start of my NFL career. Happened to be against
the Rams in Anaheim, which is an hour from my hour,
hour and ten miss from my home, so all your
friends there.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
I was fortunate that prepared well.

Speaker 5 (18:42):
We had a good game, and I was able to
settle in pretty quickly and play well and we won.
But can I remember the feeling in the locker room
of to just take a deep breath, it's going to
be you played at se All your friends have already
seen you a million times.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
It's local.

Speaker 5 (18:56):
And it just turned out, which was really cool that
I got that first start ma NFL career an hour
from my home from an as an away game. And
I was thinking about Cam Smith yesterday, think, okay, what
must be going I told you when he's standing in
the on deck circle, that feeling and walk into the plate,
all the emotions it must be going through and to
be able to call it if you need to know
what kind of poise he has that well, it's I

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know it's a long season, but that's that's a lot
of pressure, even though it's early in a game, to
go in there and not try to yank one and say, okay,
I'm going to hit this, you know, to drive in
a run and hit a two run homer.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
The fact that he just.

Speaker 5 (19:34):
Naturally just put the bat on the ball, played a
little inside out and hit it the other way for
a basit tells me the guy has a clue and
that he didn't get to the point, which would have
been could you have understood if you overswung? I could
have one percent in that situation. But even though it's
early to get it out of the way and then
to go, and he's not, there's nothing overwhelmed about him.

(19:54):
That dude looks like he looks the part, plays the part,
got it there. It's got to feel great because I
can imagine for seven oh, for eight over nine, you
start to grip the bat a little bit different. Try sure, sure, So,
I just like I said, I'm you know who I'm
least worried about. Well, when I say least, you know
who I'm not concerned about as a ballplayer him.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
And I know that you said the first part, but
then the last where you know, not trying to do
too much. All of that, I mean, but you even
brought it up with your own experience. It's safe to
say you battle a little bit of nerves, right.

Speaker 5 (20:27):
Well, if you don't, then you're probably then then you
should probably quit. Nobody no matter what anybody tells you. Well,
when when they say they weren't nervous, that means you're
just like You'll hear a guy five years and I
really wasn't nervous about the game. You just kind of
get locked into your own zone. But at some point
you feel them that during the week, I can guarant.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Ask tea like you.

Speaker 5 (20:46):
You've heard guys that are Hall of famers say when
the day comes that I don't have some nerves before
a game or do, then it's time for me to quit.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
I've heard another one that the situation is not big enough.

Speaker 5 (20:55):
If that's the case, yeah, that's like it's like you're
doing the loan work by yourself at home and nobody's watching,
so there is no question. I mean, you would have
a pull now. I like the guy who looks like
he doesn't have a pulse is so relaxed that it's like,
this is boring to me, that feeling. I love quarterbacks
that play urgent, but when they drop back in the pocket,
they're sitting there. It's like, this guy looks bored because

(21:17):
you're not. Because you're not. You'd that's exactly right. You're
trying to What usually happens with young players is the
mind speeds up and the body slows down.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
You need it.

Speaker 5 (21:28):
Opposite veterans like when Brady's forty years older in certain situation,
Joe Montana or Michael Jordan, when everybody was going haywire
and the game spent, their mind was able to slow
things down and then they are urgency picked up. But
young players, a lot of times the urgency your mind's
going haywire and your body, you know that feeling when

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you're you know what, Like you see a guy yawned
before the game, like it's a I do it all
the time. You see guys yawn. They'll be on the
silence and it's that nervous energy. It's it's a yawn
to get it out, like you're bored. It's almost like
you're telling the world, oh, this isn't that big of
a stage, but inside you're grinding, right. But it's true,
I've seen it happen to me or everything you're speeding up,

(22:09):
speeding up. It's the opposite slow the mind down. And
when I say speed up, I don't mean play panicked.
There's an urgency and if you can get the body
to speed up and the mind to slow down, everything
slows down. And I think he's got that ability to
do it. But yeah, there's no question they can say
they weren't really uptight, but the nerves always sit.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
Now.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
It just depends on how you handle him.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
Try to find John Candy on the sidelines is what
I took from what you just said.

Speaker 5 (22:34):
Yeah, Montana and the huddle to his guys, the ability
and you know, Joe didn't do that for him. There's
that sense of we're gonna be okay, man, that's I'm
here you guys, and his to me, the message was,
you know, with Keith Fahnhorst and Randy Cross and all
those guys in the huddle saying, fellas, you do whatever

(22:55):
you got to do, John Candy. I just saw John Candy.
He's here and they like laughing and joke. And what
you've done for a small period of time is take
those other guy's mind off. Nobody needs to get in
the huddle eighty yards or ninety yards to go the
Super Bowls on the line, or the World Series and
get them around and say.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Let's go.

Speaker 5 (23:15):
This is the big most important part of the game. Really,
as if I don't, we don't know that. There's a
silence that goes on TV the crowd. You can feel
the buzz. Do I really need to remind my right
guard what the situation is? How about reminding my right guard? Dude,
We've done this a million times on a practice show.
That's a big a deal. No, And that's the method
and the madness to that's the elevation of a great

(23:36):
leader too, to get people to Oh and when after
the game you're talking about do you believe what Monte's
just like when Maddox. When you hear Chipper Jones tell
the story about Maddox, he's like, you quit thinking about
the moment that's like this is huge and you start
to think about what a whack job your teammate is.
What do you look at it to stand? I got this?

Speaker 2 (23:53):
And what do they do? Went down scored? Right? They did?
All game over?

Speaker 6 (23:57):
Well?

Speaker 4 (23:57):
I mean, and those are the guys that you're willing
to listen to, the ones that will just come up
to you, Hey, you got this, You're prepared, You're ready
to go.

Speaker 5 (24:03):
Yeah, there's no different than anything else, other than the
ball still has four panels and eight laces on it.
You're still fifteen feet away from a free throw line.
You're still in the batter's box. You've done this eight
million times.

Speaker 7 (24:15):
Now.

Speaker 5 (24:15):
You may not be successful in this one, but don't
let the mind bury you before the body has a
chance to answer the call.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
Right, it's Norman Dale down, it's Norman Dale telling somebody
to put Ali on their shoulders. You'll find that the
basket is the same height as the one we have
back in Hickory.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
It's exactly right.

Speaker 5 (24:31):
And a great movie Hoosiers, and so the ability and
some will do it cheesier, but Montana, I mean, if
you're in the huddle, you can't, you can't stay focused
on the game. Then you just get into locked in.
I've prepared for this a million times, We've studied it.
I know this play. Let's go do it, and then
you do. And I think Cam Smith to get that
out of the way the first time and to get
the crowd into it, what a cool moment for him.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
Absolutely, all those cool moments with Cam Smith. We'll talk
about that here on the Sean Salisbury Show, as we
can continued, roll along here on a Friday were the
Shawn Salisbury Show continued. They're in Indy. You can hear
it over on KPRC nine fifty. You know what's interesting

(25:14):
about from where you brought up?

Speaker 2 (25:15):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
I know a lot of times we focus on the
when he gets a little sideways with his emotions, right,
and you saw on that game was it a pitch
that I'm trying to think when it was was middle innings,
maybe fourth inning, fifth inning, and he was getting for
used and stepped off the mound, and you saw yiner
give him like, dude, basically they shuttle your ass down,
like jumped right out in front, said settled down. He

(25:38):
gets back up and goes gets seven. Now that guy
you saw, and I don't think we give him enough credit.
We're on the we all like to focus on, well,
what's wrong as opposed to what's right.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Sure, the dude dominates.

Speaker 5 (25:48):
Innings the last three years or whatever, since twenty twenty two,
nobody's pitched more innings the guy.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
You start to look at where.

Speaker 5 (25:55):
He he eats innings and when he's in that ground
ball mode, know whether it was you know matter of fact,
ground ball pitch. I don't think they they were like
the first three or four innings there was like two
ground ball outs or whatever. But you get the point.
He keeps the ball in the ballpark and gives you
a chance. Now that performance there see for me. You
don't we all people bitch and complain and just give
me five. That's what you expect your frontline starters to give.

(26:18):
You get the six or get the seven like fromber
And then even when you get to the point and
hater had had his moments, you give yourself a chance
and seven innings, you get that out of him, and
he'll win a sye. Young the dude and walked a
couple of batters, but kept it in the ballpark, shutting
him out, gets to seven innings.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
You save bodies early.

Speaker 5 (26:39):
You know who the hell wants to change pitches in
the third inning when you got it. Now you're already
tag you. We're already a game in and I got
to get to long relief. That guy used. We don't
give him enough credit for the innings. That guy just
choose up. We just don't. And with all the sideways
to settle in open and I don't even think he
had his best stuff yesterday. I was, he was solid,

(27:01):
He kind of he kind of had to grind through
those sets and that's okay, and that's okay. And while
they scored their three and they never got a huge lead,
that wasn't a swing or two away from, you know,
sure getting back into it. But he did exactly what
you're supposed to do. Give yourself a chance at the
back end and use up innings and efficiency on the
mound when he's pitching like that and solid and has

(27:22):
to and is able to grind through where it's not
six to nothing and he's one hitting you in striking
out ten. But that guy right there is the reason
why you run him out there first.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yeah, he was.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
He was definitely what the Astros needed, and you're able
to save the bullpen of only having to use your
high leverage guys. Although those guys were pretty shaky. We'll
talk about them a little bit later on.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Were to do. I mean, especially Hater is going to
need to sew that.

Speaker 5 (27:46):
Up a little yet till but still the frustration of
we saw a little bit too much of that of
high leverage situations were stress level situations a lot.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
And while I know it's one game, but what happens
if it's three?

Speaker 5 (28:02):
Then do we start saying, oh my gosh, you'll start
to hear the we overpaid and you know how that goes,
even if even if he gets the save right, and
it's and it's stress level of God and closures. I've
watched Kenley Jansen, I've watched put you in those situations
where it's like, ask the guy, he's a Hall of
Fame type closure, but damn, can we get a clean inning?

(28:23):
And so I think that's what we're looking for. And
I'm not worried about it. It's one game, big deal.
They got out of it in won. But it does
creep in a little bit.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
It just does.

Speaker 5 (28:33):
And the doubts of is he Milwaukee Brewers closer? Is
he Houston asked? Was at times closure last year? Or
at times where it was like, oh, fastball down the
middle and gets yanked into the seats for home run.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
But of course, but you'll take the win. But Fromber
did his thing yesterday.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
And you know what, Jake Myers, if you play like
you played yesterday, they're not a soul alive that's gonna
have a problem with it. Not at all a couple
of hits for Jake Myers, and he and hustle in
his ass off to prevent You know though, what was
if the fielder's choice where he doesn't give up the
double play and gets down the line that a pretty
good sized body moving down the line and drives in

(29:10):
a run.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Because of it.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
So those it's the little things like that make a
difference that Jake Myers I can keep in center field
regularly and two hits.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
You'll take that all day long.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
Ross Villareal and the Jake Myers fan Club definitely very
happy with how yesterday went.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Back to Camp Smith, you.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
Know you were talking about nerves, everything that it's natural
to think you're probably going to have before having the
largest game of your young life. Well, Smith talked about
that yesterday, trying to battle those nerves both before and
getting to the ballpark.

Speaker 8 (29:41):
Before the game, Like I for the first time ever,
I had to force myself to like I was not
hungry at all. I think I think the nerves were
kicking in. So I definitely felt that energy before I
got on the field and just to go out there
and wave to the fans and you know, connect with
the fans. It was it was awesome. It was such
a great feeling and you definitely feel that fourth deck.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
And I mean he definitely did see the fourth deck
of a minute made park. He talked about that too
of you know, getting there and during batting practice kind
of looking around and being like, wow, yeah, this is
this place. Oh hey, there's a few more fans showing up.
I mean, he played at TD Ameritrade in the College
World Series, but I mean that's twenty one thousand or so.
I mean, this is a chance for you to play

(30:23):
in front of forty two thousand plus, which he did yesterday,
and a nice little ovation for him too when he
got up to the plate and had his first chance.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 5 (30:33):
And say, there's a guy who just admitted, Man, you
don't have to do the macho thing. Doesn't have to
kick at Oh this was just it's just baseball. No
it's not, of course, of course kicks hid. You can't eat.
How many of us been there were? You like, I
need the energy to eat, but I got a force
feed myself. Then you get rolland he won't miss many
pregame meals because he's gonna want that energy but can't
eat before the game. I know guys who had to

(30:55):
throw up before every game they played in Veterans that
are in the Hall of Fame that had to throw
up in the locker room.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
They threw before every game. That was just their routine.

Speaker 5 (31:02):
So hey, if if he rakes and doesn't eat before
a game, then he'll be off and then you're you're
famished after the game. So that day he admitted it.
He's a young player. The nerves kicked in, and why
wouldn't they mine? I had nerves for him in his
first Avitam said, I'm thinking, put this put this ball
in play, a young fella, and on only's he put
it in play, he goes the other way.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
That's got a feel good, good piece of hitting by him.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
Hey, it's what you just said right there about the
you know people who try to minimize the situation. It
kind of reminds me of one of my most hated
cliches in sports. It's a huge game because it's the
next game. I usually feel like whenever, and that's used
in football mostly whenever people use that saying I'm like
you've already lost the game, Like, don't lie to me,
like you we're playing in the AFC, championship game. Well,

(31:45):
it's a huge games. It's the next game. No, it's
a chance for you to move on to the super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Stop, and it's not the same.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
You're not giving away anything by by admitting, hey, this
is a this is a cool this is a cool opportunity,
this is fun.

Speaker 5 (31:56):
And it's okay to admit that preseason's energy is different
than opening September's energy. Right, December's energy is different than
September's energy, although you got to win them. Sure, there's
just an energy because there's more urgency because it's winding down.
And then January the ergency kicks and please don't tell
me that the choke factor isn't real as well as

(32:17):
the clutch factor.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
It kicks in, and then the February it's a little
different than January.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
And when you embrace it and say it's not different, yeah,
I know, the field's the same, but you can say
whatever you want. Sometimes that field looks shrinked because or bigger,
because it's like, oh my gosh, you feel like fifteen
people are coming out at you from the stands as well.
So yes, it is a bigger moment and how you
handle it's the key. But some people handle it say, yeah,

(32:43):
it's not just another game. That's that almost loser's limit.
It's just another game. And if you get beat, you've
built in the excuse that, hey man, life goes on. Well,
life does go on, but it sure sucks for the
next couple of weeks where you got to let it faster,
get your ass handed to you in the biggest game
of your life. So the intensity does change. The level
of intensity goes up, and it's like, let me ask

(33:05):
you this. When they're playing at the Masters, why does
the guy shoot a sixty five in the first.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Round who's never won the Master before?

Speaker 5 (33:12):
Second round, hangs around, third round, falls off, fourth round,
got a lead and snap hooks balls into the water.
Do you think when Greg Norman, who is a great player,
has a six stroke lead and loses by what seven
a thirteen points Tofaldo knocking I mean snap pooking balls
in the water on sixteen, that you and I would
hit Jordan speed that is, don't tell you and you

(33:34):
can be a great player and still choke. All of
us have at a level. You know if you're who
hasn't choked. But the words are so gut wrenching It's like, dude,
let's just you stood over a four foot putt that
you've made a thousand times on Friday, same putt on
Sunday you rolled at four feet by and three putt
and then you lose by a putt a stroke?

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Is that? Oh the golf course changed?

Speaker 9 (33:56):
Is that?

Speaker 5 (33:57):
Oh it's just another round or is it? It's the
final round to gust and the Masters? And I literally
blew it by how many times? Listen, a three foot
putt for a thousand bucks with a buddy is a
little different than a three putt for five bucks with
your buddy. And it's the same thing here. I'm just
one of those guys achnowlogy. Yeah, as big as hell.

(34:17):
But then you got then when it's ball stamped, you
got to get back into play football or you're hitting
a baseball. So yeah, I did the cliches. Oh, it's
just another game. No, it's actually not. It's not September,
although it's important in September. The guy who can make
it feel like another game, that's a different cat. But
it's not just another game. And that's the difference.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
You You don't need the juggle chainsaws. I mean, it's
it's tried to simplified as much as possible and try
to just I mean, you know those situations you're talking about,
all right, well, what do I need to do here?

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Okay, That's what I focus on.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
That's what most athletes will tell you they try to
do when they whenever they're in those spots. And Cam Smith,
while he was good with the bats, he also got
tested out in right field.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Same with jose L Tuov. We'll talk about that here.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
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Speaker 1 (35:05):
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Speaker 4 (35:10):
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On Sports Talk seven ninety, John, what's up?

Speaker 10 (35:20):
Hey, Good morning guys. A great win, great way to
start the season. And uh, you know, Sean, I when
you were talking about how people handle pressure, and you
were talking about like Joe Montana, I remember the story
about him when they were in the Super Bowl and
it was a clutch moment towards the end of the
game and a big moment. Everybody's nervous, and Joe Montana says, oh, John,
Candy's there. In the crowd over in the forty yard line. Yeah,

(35:43):
that was said. Everybody kind of kind of took the
edge off everybody and it got everybody more calm down,
and you know, they went on to win it. So
you're right about how people handle different critical situations. But
getting back to the Astros, I think it was a great,
great win. Everybody came through as like that, ce Jake
Myers having such a good game and it was great.

(36:03):
Camp Smith started off with a hit. I think that
was great, and I just like, I like the look
at the Astros. I really do. I think, uh, Hater,
I think some of these guys were a little bit
amped in the game. You know, Hater threw a lot
of pitches, but I thought that strikeout pitch that he
threw at the end of the game against Juan Soto,

(36:24):
I thought it was a brilliant, brilliant pitch and uh
it was a tough pitch to hit and he you know,
he really delivered in the end. So uh, anyways, I
just wanted to mention it was a great way to
start the season. I really I like the look at
the Astros and uh, I think they're going to be fine.
So anyways, just want a weigh in.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
Thank you guys, appreciate John, have a great weekend. You know,
it had been even more impressive with John Candy with
the Joe Montana mentioned as if he had said, Hey,
is that the guy who played mog on Spaceball's half man,
half dog.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
He's his own best friend Spaceballs? What a class, what
a classic.

Speaker 5 (37:01):
There's so many references you could have done with John Candy,
but yeah, Montana's.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
And if Marianas was right next to him, yeah, that's
the guy that played dark Helmet. That's exactly right. What
a what a? What a?

Speaker 5 (37:11):
You know, Montana just had a had a flair for
wind to some guys, just get it right.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
But I'm with uh, I'm with John the team.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
You know, it's okay to have early season nerves, but
to find a way to come out with win that
that's the real full key to it, which I love.
But on the other side of it, too is the
Josh hater thing, and John mentioned it. He got out
of it fine. Thirty five I think thirty four to
thirty five.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Pitches he's not pitching.

Speaker 5 (37:39):
Yeah, that's a lot of that's a lot of stuff
to start a season. Now, like I said, we get
mad when you have to struggle through it. But in truth,
do we really expect clean innings.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
The whole year? Maybe you'll flush this one out. I
just hope it's not a continuehere.

Speaker 5 (37:53):
Every time he goes that just got to throw thirty
plus pitches to get out of you know, to win
a game, or should I say, to save a game.
So listen, there's gonna be more opportunities like this that
are gonna some of them are going to come up
on the wrong side of them, But when you win them,
I just look at it as like, okay, then when
you're not playing your best and you win, to me,
that's better than playing your best.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
In winning, it just is well because you learn more.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
The same time last year, I mean, the first game,
the Astros have a lead, they give it up, they
lose to the Yankees.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Well, is it that Saturday.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
Game you have a lead going in the late innings,
you lose the games Sunday, same deals. So I mean,
I understand it's just one game, but if nothing else,
what I think you took from yesterday is what did
Joe Spotta talk about this offseason? We gotta be better
on the basis we gotta be better in the field.
Those things are ways that we can be able to
cheat the ankle, be able to win some of these games.
And they did that yesterday. I mean you mentioned it

(38:44):
early on. Not a ton of ground balls from Fromber,
but then those middle innings, huge double play, able to
get out of it, find a way. Maybe you're not
getting a ton of swing and miss and the guys
behind them and were able to.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Go to work.

Speaker 5 (38:55):
I thought Parade has played a really good third base
yesterday as well.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Okay, I'll tell you what well.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
I'll tell you what he can.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
He can unhitch the piano, though if he wants to
on his back running down the first base line.

Speaker 5 (39:07):
I don't think he's a puff of smoke when it
comes to if he's there. But a nice job with
the glove, a nice diving stop and get up. I mean,
they did some good things defensively yesterday, and I can
live with that. I mean, not that they care how
we go about it, but you know, there'll be a
lot of opportunities to win three one games and pitching

(39:29):
staff has to come in and then it's the clutch
hit you need, and they got it. Quite frankly, you
know the opener from camp Smith, but Jake Myer's doing
his thing at the bottom of the order, and that's
a good thing. You'll take that any day of the week.
So I like the makeup of the team. I like
the attitude he get. I feel good with Rogers when
he's at second base. I feel obviously bringing over Christian

(39:51):
Walker feels like a pro move to me.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (39:54):
I think that's thirty home runs here in this ballpark,
twenty five thirty home runs.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
I do you know what you order is going to do?

Speaker 5 (40:00):
Walk twice again, So his eyes is people are still
afraid to throw him balls anywhere near and I don't
blame it. If you can protect him, well, then he'll
see some pitches or people others are going to see
pitches because you're never going to let Jordan or at
least try not to let him be the one who
dominates you. So I was in there's some inspiration from yesterday.
One game not a big deal. I'd rather be want

(40:21):
to know than on one, twelve and twenty four last
year was too much to deal with. I mean, well,
they dealt with it, but for the rest of us,
like what the hell, but I did like it. There's
some things you got to sew up. But it's one
game in and we get to go do it again today.
I can't wait to see it.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
Hardest hit baseballs in the game yesterday, Christian Walker, both
of them, one hundred and eleven miles off the bat,
one for a hit. One well jumps off that guy's bat. Yes,
it does. I like it, and especially two. You factor
in miss some a ton of action with that oblique.
So the astro is hoping he can be a huge
part of their success. In twenty twenty five, we mentioned
about Cam Smith and jose Al Tuove out in left

(40:57):
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Brockets one twenty one, one ten, dub Over the Jazz
in Utah, Alabama, Florida, Duke, Texas Tech all moving on
to the Elite Eight. Jose Al Tuvey and Cam Smith
both first games out in left and right field. And
you know, Sean, during the break, you were asking me
what the vibe was out at the ballpark yesterday, and

(42:07):
I would say positive would be probably the all encompassing word.
I mean, Astros fans now expect that this team is
going to not only get through the regular season, they're
going to win in the postseason. And I mean for
the better part of the last seven of the eight years,
we have seen a team that has finished no worse
than playing in the ALCS and a couple of times

(42:28):
in there a World Series and even just getting to
the World Series for a couple of those. But it
is a little bit of I would say slight transition
for the Astros. I wouldn't say it's a full on one,
but it just there is a feeling that they're kind
of entering a new phase of this organization without Bregman here,
without a lot of the other names. Like yesterday, I

(42:48):
was sitting in the press conference room and I saw
a photo that had Garrett Cole Verlander, Bregman Presley, and
a couple of other guys in it. But I just
remembered saying to myself, they're all gone, Like every single
one of those guys that were part of this just
massive run of success this organization had, they're all gone.

Speaker 5 (43:08):
And in the last two years they've been to a
World have they been h two games short, well one
game short they lost to at home of a World
Series appearance, and then last year with all the injuries,
they had made the playoffs and won the division after
that and when we look at that as they, oh,
what a right, and we look at that as, oh, man,
what a bummer. So it's this is a and they've

(43:33):
created expectations, but we look at it as a bummer.
Like but think about all those losses. It's really hard
to be good when you lose that many players Boston,
when they when when you let Mookie Betts go and
then a couple others in your pitching staff goes. Think
what they've had to do to build it back up.
The Astos really in the last decade haven't had to

(43:54):
build in I mean they've they've stayed where they are
a couple of games, right right, that's exactly right as
they've done as sharpen their knife.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
Man reload, don't rebuild. That's that's usually the saying that
organizations like them have. But uh, in terms of how
yesterday went, you know, from right to left you had
Cam Smith, and right he had jose Al Tuove and
left both of them when the team took the field,
the right field fans standing up, giving Cam a standing ovation.

(44:22):
Same deal for jose L Twove. But we'll start first
with Cam out and right. He had that one play,
the Luis Treenz diving ball that he did try to slide.
Ford did try to bring it in, unable to bring
in said play, so it scored as a double. Smith
though overall pleased with how he played in his debut
out and right, I think it went good today.

Speaker 8 (44:45):
Obviously, that that one I slid for Maybe I could
have went to my went to my glove side a
little bit more with that righty slice to get that
to catch it in my glove, But yeah, I think
I did pretty good.

Speaker 4 (44:56):
That's the presence of mind right there, Sean. I mean,
this is a guy that's learning the position. I mean,
you listen to that does he sound like a guy
that's overwhelmed that. You know, his words are not necessarily
matching up with what his actions were on the field.
He was playing with two left feet. Yeah, no, not
at all. What it tells me is that the guy
is intentional. He didn't say I missed I could.

Speaker 5 (45:16):
Guy, I played really good out there, and I'm not
sure many people could have got to that ball.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
You know.

Speaker 5 (45:21):
He simply said, if I slide and give myself a
little more chance glove side. He was specific and intentional,
so which tells me he's paying attention. He's not just
playing right field. He's playing It was focused on the
precise part of playing right field, and I think about
how to think about how how direct that is he
slid and slid run. I need to slide where I

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get the ball more to my glove side. Pretty simple.
But that's like I guarantee when he's probably running in
he's thinking, you know what, at the end of an inning,
a little more glove side, don't have a better chance. Now,
that tells me that it's a quick study, and I
like that he's not overwhelmed a bit.

Speaker 4 (45:57):
The analytics, you know, the stack cast, all those different
times of things. Baseball Savant expected batting average. That expected
batting average for that ball hit by Terrenz was seventy ten,
So a seventy one percent chance that ball was going
to fall, twenty nine percent that Cam Smith was going
to be able to bring that in. So again, you
throw that in very equation, right, I mean, if you

(46:19):
want to okay, fine, if you want to throw out. Oh,
Kyle Tucker could have made that play. Perhaps he could have.
I don't know if he could have or not. That's
seventy one percent you're telling me. Then you're telling me
that the other twenty nine percent, you know.

Speaker 5 (46:31):
Guys hitting sevent ten, that it's guys like what the
Clementes and of the world that get a great jump
on it. Yeah, but they're also saying, did they factor
in first time in your life playing in a pro game,
playing right field? That seventy one percent is by everybody
who's played it all the time seven ten batting average
that they're not they're not taking an account. Well, it drops
down because what if this was this guy? The what

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if factor of who it is, it's simply this is
what's going to happen. The guy's hitting seven ten when
he hits the ball there, So what that? And they
didn't take an account I don't think they factored into
those metrics how many guys playing? Now does the stats
say how many guys on a first time going to
get it? No, you just said simply seven to ten,
no matter who's playing it, right, Isn't that the status?

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (47:11):
That's the stake.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Okay, Well then I'm okay with it. I'm okay with it.

Speaker 5 (47:14):
Maybe a little more jump and understanding when balls, like
you said, a slicing away right hander and you're in
right field, gonna get yourself down the line more right,
get to the glove side so you're not late with
the glove.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Those there's just things you learn.

Speaker 5 (47:27):
But if somebody's sitting seven ten, most guys aren't getting
to that ball.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
Well, I mean, and it's also you hear outfielders talk
about it all the time to read off the bat.
That's a ball that's got top spin on it. It's
going down. It's going to be one of those. All right,
Do I leave the feet? Do I limit it to
just a single right here? Get in front of it
and there's no other harm done to it.

Speaker 5 (47:47):
We'll have the right cutter that it's gonna move towards
towards the foul line. And because off a right handed
bit usually if it now, if it was the other
way around, and you're Altuve, you're gonna have to but
you're gonna have to get backhanded more than likely right,
So he had the opportunity, at least on a right
field or playing right field off a right handed bat,
that ball slicing away is getting to your glove side

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most of the time. And I thought he was very
precise and dynamic with his explanation. But I'm not real
worried that he didn't get to it. He's gonna be fine.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
Speaking of hose L two V out and left field,
he was tested early. He had to take charge out there,
and al Twove said he had no problem doing that.

Speaker 12 (48:23):
I know Jake called down one, but I was on
my way there, so I want to get my role
so and then Penny I got priority over hand, so
he got to get out of the way.

Speaker 5 (48:34):
How do you like that? I love it pretty simple. Yeah,
a priority get out of the way. And I also
think there's a part of I needed to get this
first catch out of the way. I'm gonna make this
play and it was just he made it look simple.
And I'm sure Jake's like, Okay, I'm not the one
who has to make all these plays. I loved it,
and he and the truth is, and He's exactly right.
One's going to his backhand, the other's going to his

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glove side. So was his ball and made the call.
And he and pain you have had plenty of that
come communication in their life on the infield a little
different how you play it in the outfield, obviously, because
in the infield, the line drive you. You ain't calling
a guy off that's to you, or it's a base hit.
He's usually a ball that's popped up that you're battling

(49:19):
with your shortstop. In the outfield, balls that they're hitting
the gap. I mean, you don't have a whole lot
of time. I thought the thing the main play about
that was the communication. I got it, he goes behind,
it's my glove side. I got it, get out the way.
I love his simple explanation, and I liked his aggressiveness
going after the ball.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
Safe to say that Jose is one of those that
subscribes to the line of thinking fortune favors the bold.

Speaker 5 (49:39):
Yeah, no question about it. And do yourself a favor.
Don't call him Jose's right.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
Which is funny because me and Ross were sitting next
to each other in the press box yesterday and we
were looking on Baseball Reference and it took the accent
mark off the E. So I was like, well, okay,
maybe he goes by Hosey.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Hosey.

Speaker 5 (49:57):
Okay, yeah, It'sjse just Hosey. Yeah, maybe a spot has
started to tread here. If you're Dave Jose and I
call you Hosey, that's what we're changing it to get
your birth certificate out. It's Hosey. Now, I love it.

Speaker 7 (50:08):
I was.

Speaker 5 (50:10):
Pleased, Like I said, like, they don't care if I'm pleased,
but just what I saw it was like, okay, because
the truth, aren't you gonna play in more games like
that than you do where you're up seven to nothing
then you're kicking ass and everything's that, You're gonna play
in more games like this the majority one hundred of
them are going to be played. You gotta win these,
you just do, and you know you're gonna get blown

(50:32):
out in fifteen or ten of them. You're gonna blow
out people. But this is the this is baseball once
you saw is sports. An NBA game, a college hoop game,
a baseball game in June, a baseball game, hell in March.
This is this is what you're gonna get most of
the time. And I love that. You want to be
today somebody who got you know, hammered yesterday by a

(50:53):
team that shouldn't beat him. Look, look, look up and
down the baseball there was a couple of teams like that.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
They got us.

Speaker 5 (50:59):
You know, you don't want to do that, you want to,
but this is where you're gonna live. This is the
Norman baseball and it gets your starting How many starting
pitches went.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Seven innings yesterday? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (51:11):
Yeah, I guarantee you're not getting to three. I'm not
even sure who if they got to two yesterday, I'd
have to go. Look, I'm trying to remember as watching.
I try to keep an eye on it yesterday and
ended up going to bed after the some college hoops
last night. But I'm sitting they thing, okay, how many
because you know what he was efficient?

Speaker 2 (51:28):
What they're in the fifth or sixth inning.

Speaker 5 (51:30):
He's got seventy five pitches or something, so he was
efficient enough to be able to go.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
But that's part of it. You're not gonna find many
on it. Any given day.

Speaker 5 (51:37):
They're going seventy and seventy seven eight guys, and I'm
not even sure you got to three. You might not
have got to two yesterday given you seven solid and
that was an impressive performance.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Came out of the sixth inning. He was at eighty
five pitches.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
I'm looking out to the bullpen and I'm like, somebody's
going to start getting warmed up. And you see one out,
nobody's warming up. Two outs, well, then surely somebody's got
to and then you know, you'll come to the realization, Oh,
Frommer's going back out there.

Speaker 5 (51:59):
Perfect world, less than one hundred pitches. I'm talking about
in the analytics world, less than one hundred. Get me
to seven innings and get to a bray you and hater,
But it's not just here. Most teams. If you get
to seven and your eight nine guy, if you can
do that a lot of times during the season, you're
gonna be a damn good shape.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
That's you well rested in the middle of your bullpen.
That's usually the way if you script it out, that
it plays out. So we'll see if the astros are
able to subscribe to that for most of the season
al John, see you guys right there. It get to
you all here coming up here. But what is it
about this place that just brings the crazy out of people.

Speaker 5 (52:37):
We'll talk about that here Sean Salisbury Show. Yeah, let's
talk about country boys roofing too. My guy John now
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Speaker 2 (52:45):
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Speaker 5 (52:47):
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I've had the same roof for fifteen years and it
gets pounded or post where you're like, oh my gosh,
we're in a bad way. We didn't prepare for this.

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no job too big or too small. And those insurance
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a good thing. It's Country Boy's Roofing, and it's John,
and it's John and Zach and it's Connor. John just
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sure that his teammates get mentioned. And I love that
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Speaker 1 (54:21):
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Speaker 8 (54:24):
An saw Salisbury continues now a Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
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Speaker 1 (54:36):
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Speaker 11 (54:39):
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Speaker 4 (54:43):
On the Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety. Indeed
it is the Shawn Salisbury Show. Astros three to one
winners over the Mets on opening day Rockets one twenty
one one ten final in ut sah on you of
h taken on Purdue tonight in the sweet sixteen. All right, Sean,
airline travel? Where do you stand on airline travel?

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Listen?

Speaker 5 (55:08):
I try to be kind or gener I know they
all got a job to do, and I appreciate them
getting us there safely.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
I do.

Speaker 5 (55:14):
I wouldn't want their job dealing with people, whether you're
flight attendant or all that crap, or a gate agent
and all that. But I also think at times you
run into them and they're looking for a battle, because
they can be drive you crazy too. For me, yeah,
I think that people unless you're headed to Vegas Cobbo

(55:35):
on a vacation, are relatively irritated at the airport. I
think people are as miserable as you'll ever find a
lot of times at the area. If they got kids,
they're loud or whatever it is. You got to lay
over it. And maybe it depends on the time of year,
like in the spring. I feel like right now people
are a little more free spirited because maybe the good
weather and they're not getting delays, and I think that's

(55:56):
probably natural. I'm probably that's probably a you know, obvious
captain obvious statement. But for me, I number one because
my dad did. I like getting in my vehicle and
traveling and stopping at places without you telling me when.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
I can and can't stop.

Speaker 5 (56:13):
So I'm more app to right now, said Sean, we're
gonna go to California next week, that I would, I
would drive leave and I drive straight through most of
the time, stop and do it with dogs. Maybe you
got to stop and stuff, But then with my big dog,
I'm not stopping to get an airbnb for six hours
to sleep, and what I do, it's a three or

(56:33):
four hour stop over and grab coffee and we're on
the road again, because I want to get to my destination.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
So I love to drive. And it's not because it's
white knuckle.

Speaker 10 (56:41):
Now.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
I don't like turbulence, but I fly.

Speaker 5 (56:43):
It's the hassle of I feel like the and I
don't get stressed over much, but the anxiety and stress
of other people just it just permeates through everybody, and
I cannot stand it. So I am now I can't
fly to I mean, my son's getting married. I gotta
fly to Hawaii. But that's people who are going to Hawaii.
Guess what they're going to be in on the plane.
A good mood, They're they're going for a vacation. If
you're going to Hawaii, that's exactly so. And there's not

(57:06):
usually delays flying Hawaii from a storm. You know, you're
usually not going to be an alay over the Pacific
r right now. If you've got to go to San
Francisco and then head there, which is which is a
normal style when you're coming from the East to stop
in San Francisco and get an international flight there, there's
fog that you got. Okay, if you're on an early
morning flight, you're leaving at six, then you leave at

(57:26):
ten out of San Francisco International if I've been there too,
so I prefer to drive.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
I do now.

Speaker 5 (57:32):
I'm not a snob, but I have become a If
I sold a company for five hundred million dollars, I
would take seventy five million of it. I'm dead ass, seriously,
cause I'm not going to be able to spend the
interest on that money anyway. And I would get one
of those flying hotels like a G eight hundred. I'm
being serious, and I would have it so my friends

(57:53):
and I and family and I could go anytime we
want it. Take your dogs, pull up, go. I don't
have to deal with all the nonsense. You can fly
coast to coast on a tank gas one. I'd buy
it brand new. I still got four hundred and twenty
five million sitting in the bank or wherever I put it.
And I can also airbnb that you want to use it. Okay,
it's from coast to coast one hundred grand. You got
to take care of the gustle. It'll more than pay
for itself. Even if it doesn't. It gives me pleasure

(58:15):
to know that I can pick up and go whenever
I want without the hassle that's the I'm not a
snob about coffee or when it comes to that, because
the peace of mind of taking that I don't have
to sit through tea all the crap that goes with it.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
I'm all in. That's the one place I snop.

Speaker 5 (58:30):
Give me, I'll drive, I will drive flying to me,
I'll get there just as damn near as quickly as
you will.

Speaker 4 (58:37):
I feel like the tone is set when you get
to the airport going through TSA of the long lines
everything where people are already irritable there, then you get
TSA yelling at you, computers out of the bags, shoes off,
all of these different things. So that kind of I
think probably if somebody was kind of on the borderline

(58:57):
of hey, I'm in a good mood, I'm in a
crap be mood, if they were like just right there
straddling the line, that might push them one way.

Speaker 5 (59:04):
Truth when you go to the airport, in truth, you're
not going if it's business related, and at times even
if you're going on a little a vacation or a
three day or right, I want you to tell me,
honestly the last time from the time you packed that
morning and dealing with traffic to get to the airport,
and then getting to the airport, and then parking or
valet parking, whatever it is, you tell me the last time,

(59:27):
and then you're pissed because you you made it. You
booked your flight close to the time you were going
to leave, but not too close where they were trying
to sell it out and got you another discount. And
so you're going a round trip to someplace it's an
hour and a half way to cost you seven hundred
dollars or six hundred and fifty bucks. So you're sitting
there at the principle of it, you tell me the
last time, or how often, in truth, if you fly

(59:49):
twenty five times in six months, how many times you
go to the airport in a good mood?

Speaker 1 (59:53):
The truth.

Speaker 6 (59:55):
I mean?

Speaker 5 (59:56):
Or by the time you're only a pretty positive guy,
I am too, no good mood. When I'm saying you're jovial,
I'm not saying you're going there to create problem. But
is there not normally something whether it's traffic, get in
that something irritates you by the time you set your
ass in that seat, or the person sitting next to you, breeze, heavy, eats, loud,
and it's not even if you're in an even if
you're in a good mossic. I got the person who's

(01:00:18):
sniffling the whole time. I got the person whose kid
is kicking the back of my eye.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
I've had a real bad run of farters. Oh well,
thank you. That makes me horny.

Speaker 5 (01:00:28):
Yeah, yeah, no, but you okay, whatever it is, you
rarely go get land in a great mood. If you're
going to Vegas, you're happy. It's the greatest flight in
the worst flight out because you usually leave without money. Sure,
and if you're going to but you get my point.
So for me, I don't do the anxiety stress thing.
I'm pretty stress free him. I don't pay attention to
a lot of that. You know, we've been through those moments.

(01:00:49):
It's like, I'm at the point now where you're not
getting me.

Speaker 13 (01:00:52):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:00:53):
The problem is, and you'll get the guy who's rude
to somebody and who you're on a plane and the
guy won't you know, one of those guys where you're like, okay, now, dude,
am I gonna have to stick this guy's head out
the window, which you don't want, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
I just like peace. I like everybody to be happy,
but that's not real. So I'm rarely I take this.

Speaker 5 (01:01:10):
I gear up for bad mood people than I do
for good mood people when I go to the airport,
is my point. Yeah, because I know somebody is gonna
be a prick, somebody's gonna be ir it, and I
understand their plight.

Speaker 10 (01:01:20):
I'm not.

Speaker 5 (01:01:20):
They may have had a bad morning, but still airports
are not made for happiness.

Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
It's the pancake of annoyances where they just stack up
on top of each other. Because then it's okay, yeah,
you get through TSA, then you make a stop to
grab a bottle of water. That'll be six fifty for
a bottle of water. Okay, cool, that's awesome. Then you
get to the boarding process and it's people in like
group four and five that are like huddled around where
it's excuse me, can I three or second board my flight?

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Thank you?

Speaker 5 (01:01:48):
And they if you're like number like on Southwest, if
you're twenty five and they're twenty seven. They then you
step in front of them. They they want to they
want to jump in, like what the number you have?
Let me see your credentials. I got twenty five, you
got twenty six. But if you really want twenty five,
you can stand one in front of me. Because where
we are, we're all getting an a seat. You're gonna

(01:02:09):
you're right now. If we're in the d D twenty
five twenty six, your ass is sitting in the middle anyway,
and we're all getting on the same damn plane. But
that you know, the micro managing your boarding pass. Kiss
my lily white ass. Okay, stop it. You know what
I've done, and I've had knee replacement. You want to
get on quick on Southwest preboard? Yeah, neither great, I

(01:02:29):
got a knee replacement. I just start to say, well,
if if the rest there's four hundred people getting on early,
you know what's yours. Yeah, well, twenty seven years ago
I blow out my shoulder. Well, okay, I've had knee replacement.
I need to get an aisle seat with my right
leg out. I mean you could do oh, no problem.
So if you get to a point you're like, I
don't want to do I don't want to be that
guy the pre board because the older folks deserve to

(01:02:51):
go on, or somebody who has an ailment.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
I get it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:52):
But then you go there and you say that guy's
moving perfectly. I said, well, damn, I've had twelve surgeries.
I'm gonna start milking that too. It's your thought process, right,
So see all this craft that we're talking about. Guess
what I do when I get on my truck or
my ass I turn on a key, I loaded, everything's
in the back, and all of a sudden, I'm driving
through some city on the way out and I hit it. Oh,

(01:03:14):
look at this cool diner. I can stop and guess
who the only prick in the vehicle gets to be?

Speaker 8 (01:03:20):
You?

Speaker 13 (01:03:20):
Me? Right?

Speaker 4 (01:03:21):
And there's price and there's nobody that's two rows behind
you that's trying to jump in front of you to
get off.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Point.

Speaker 5 (01:03:26):
I gotta get off this plane. We all have to
get off this plane. Where are you going, dude? I
gotta I gotta catch my next flight to it. I
want to run me over. I'll throw you into the front.
But yeah, guess what. I get to be the pilot,
the flight attendant, the pissed off security guard. When I'm driving,
I get to control it all. And that may sound
control freakish when it comes to travel.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
I am the we are.

Speaker 5 (01:03:48):
We got to get to that next destination. We ain't
milking around and sitting around. Pick your treats up and
get your ass to a Bucky's and let's go. I like,
I'll drive any if it takes an extra day, I
don't care.

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
You can keep your biscy off coffee. Yes, I'll take
my budgy trip if it prevented me from going. You
know how your buddies.

Speaker 5 (01:04:05):
I have a lot of buddies, and you know, even
sports or charity events that invite you to go play
golf tournaments. Sure, I've missed one hundred and fifty golf
tournaments in the last ten years of buddies of mine
that I used to go to that I love and
I'll support them anyway I can.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
But I miss like, Oh, Sean, you had an opportunity
of playing that and you didn't go to Pebble Beach
to plane.

Speaker 5 (01:04:23):
It's like you idiot, you know, but you know why
because they let you know and you get close and
you're working. You don't make a plane flight and you
got to go in and back out and Wendy just
the irritation of it. Times I'll say, well, let's see
when is it, Oh, I can drive there. I'll take
a week off or a working I'll do it from
ONZIP and I'll go play in your tournament.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
It's prevented me.

Speaker 5 (01:04:41):
Airport hassles have prevented me from going to places I
would love to go because of that. So, yeah, dude,
if you're going to be a snob, make sure it's
an airport snob, not to other people. But just be
a snob to be private, be a snob to shut up,
be a snob to get your food by, and be
a you just make it peaceful for all of us
so we can all be If we're all just peaceful

(01:05:03):
snobs on an airplane, it'll be a hell of a trip.

Speaker 4 (01:05:07):
And here's another PSA earbuds, headphones and or book or
magazine that is the human version of the do not
disturb placard on a hotel door.

Speaker 5 (01:05:18):
Yeah, when I when I got a headset on, or
i'm reading and a book is open, probably not the
time to discuss.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Hey, where are you going?

Speaker 6 (01:05:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
Well I don't know. This is the end of the flight.
I'm going the same place you are.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
Where are you going?

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
Apparently we're landing in Scottsdale.

Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
What do you do?

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
Where are you going from there?

Speaker 10 (01:05:35):
Well?

Speaker 5 (01:05:35):
I'm headed right to the golf course. So I don't
have to do this, I said, And I get a
beard a cigar, and if you want to do that,
that's fine. But I ain't listening there either. We're just playing.
So yeah, it's a I mean, I'm I'm kind to people,
but there are that time when you get the one
who wants to carry on the long conversation and you're like,
I mean, I don't know what more I could tell
a hoodie on, head creeped against, headset on, and a

(01:05:59):
book open.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Yeah, hey, do you do that your voice? No, wrong guy,
it's not me.

Speaker 5 (01:06:08):
So yeah, but I you know, I try to be
kind about it, but there are times when it's like
you're exhausted.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:06:13):
The worst flight, like I said, go to Vegas, spend
three days there, get on the morning flight on a
Monday after an event or a Sunday, really going back home.
If you weren't in a bad mood, you will be
in the worst mood of your life because you're pissed
from what happened. If you've probably hung over, Yeah, and
you're flying back home and you know when you get home,
guess what you got to do?

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
Work on Monday?

Speaker 5 (01:06:35):
Yeah, So Yeah, So there's a long answer to hell. No,
I'd rather drive than fly anywhere in the United States.
I'd rather drive than fly. If I'm not flying on
somebody who's kind enough to send their plane.

Speaker 10 (01:06:46):
Good.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
I'm in there.

Speaker 7 (01:06:47):
You go.

Speaker 4 (01:06:48):
Let at the small talk. We all try to do that,
all right. Coming up next, we'll get into the Astros again.
A little bit of a concern with something that happened
in the game yesterday. We'll discuss right here. Sports Talk
seven ninety I live out the Shawn Salisbury Show continues.
Someone three two two five, seven ninety back into the

(01:07:09):
Astros conversation. Al on the south side wants to wait
in here, Al, what's up?

Speaker 9 (01:07:14):
Hey, what's going on guys the Friday? Uh, I won't
get in on Astros talk. Oh, great game last night,
Shun And what I was thinking about Shun. You know
a lot of times, this is a long season. You
know a lot of fans and stuff get you know,
we how we get this one hundred and sixty games?

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
I like to start.

Speaker 9 (01:07:35):
It's not one hundred and sixty two games, it's one
hundred and sixty one. I'm gonna be a pitty with this,
but it means big in the end, shun just to
start fast with the long season. And I've never been
a guy to holler about the first twenty games is
still early because the more you win in the beginning

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and start shrown because we know with all those games,
at some point some guys gonna go down, hopefully minor injuries,
nothing too big where they missed the season. That's the
reasons you start and get these games early. That's why
I always raised and when I played ball, you try
to win every game it's made. You may not be
able to do that, but you try to get ahead

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much as you can because one hundred and sixty some games, man,
and you know, injuries is a part of baseball.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
It may happen. It's just gonna happen. It's just the
nature of the game.

Speaker 9 (01:08:26):
So it's quickly to start from day one, get your
win and have that same mindset. I don't want to
get into the catching and all the balls and add
analytics about the guy caught the ball and so many
feet and all that make a player on the ball.

Speaker 10 (01:08:39):
That's what baseball players do.

Speaker 9 (01:08:41):
They make the unbelievable catch. That's what the fans want
to see. That's what they like to see and I
just think that hopefully with this season with my astro sean,
I just like to see with the changes of George Spider,
you still learning on the curve. Would always say, were
gonna get some quality baseball. Hopefully we can get enough
wins to start off real good.

Speaker 10 (01:09:02):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (01:09:03):
I pitch and hold up and I believe if FuMB
will go seven, I'm not a seven to six guy
if it takes eight pitches, ass shun because guess what,
he get millions of dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
So you know a lot of times.

Speaker 9 (01:09:16):
It's good for a guy to go over if it
depending on the amount of pitches he throws, because his
arm can get warmed up. You throwing a guy there
in six with a hundred and six some game season
and then he got to stretch it. His arm may
have problems because you're snatching back and they throw so hard.
Now you need to exercise to go on a long
stretch a period of time. Sometime it benefits your arm

(01:09:37):
and didn't hurt it. I'll see what you say about
that hump. Take your take on that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:09:43):
I can tell you this and you're you're exactly listen,
everything's not gonna look perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
You're right, balls in the air, go get it. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:09:50):
Would you rather have a pretty mistake or an ugly play.
I'll take the ugly play that results in the finish. Yeah,
you want everything right, But I can tell you this.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
I'm with you.

Speaker 5 (01:09:59):
Also, one hun hundred percent will one hundred and sixty
two games in a long season. It just goes back
to last year. When you start like the Astros started,
there's pressure the whole year. So I do believe in
winning early. I believe in football, December is more important
than September. You're ass because if you go on and four.
Ask the Bengals how that feels, right, as the Bengals
how it felt last year? Or a team that nobody

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wanted to play at the postseason because they can score
from the parking lot. If they'd have won one extra
game in September, guess where they'd have been in January.

Speaker 4 (01:10:26):
I'm reminded of the two thousand and nine Textans season.
The first game right out the gate was the New
York Jets. Who was the last team that made the
playoffs that year? The New York Jets, Right, And so
it is December matters a lot.

Speaker 5 (01:10:40):
But if I got to win four straight games in
December and hope that somebody loses three straight games, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
A bad idea.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
And then you point back to Will if we don't
only take care of September, and.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
I've got news for you.

Speaker 5 (01:10:50):
The Astros do not want to start twelve and twenty
four this year because once again you are chasing the
whole season.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:10:58):
They were fortunate started to YearIn eate down their leg.
The Rangers weren't very good last year, so you had
some help from your friends for you to gain ground
quickly before the all start breaking heading into August. I mean,
they did a hell of a job and they played well,
but you don't want to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
So I was right.

Speaker 5 (01:11:14):
I'm not one of those Oh it's just the first
twenty five games, but if you're ten and fifteen, guess
what that means, or if you're seven and twenty three.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
Whatever it is now it's different.

Speaker 5 (01:11:24):
Now it's different, and it almost feels like it's single
elimination that every series becomes paramount. You would like the
series in September to mean a lot less just for
you to stay in rhythm, but for you if you
lost this series to a good team, then you're not like, oh, hell,
that happens in football all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
You got to win them. It's all relative to the
length of a season. Go ahead and.

Speaker 5 (01:11:45):
Start one in twelve and figure out just how difficult
it is to have to come back from that, not
only psychologically but just positioning yourself, because then you've got
to go through a bunch of teams to get there.
They were fortunate last year. You don't want to do
it again. I don't think you're going to see them
at twelve and twenty four.

Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
One is better than nothing, and that's the way it's
been to start off the season the last couple of
years for the Astros. So nice change of pace in
that regard. All right, coming up next the Texans makes
somebody quit doing something. We'll explain that right here. Sean
Salisbury show Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
We want to wait.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (01:12:23):
Sean, I know that you know you guys have talked
about it in the past on this show before I
hopped in with you, and it was of course a
huge topic of conversation the last couple of years when
the Texans headed out to Nashville, and.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
Just conveniently, the Titans would be wearing the.

Speaker 4 (01:12:38):
Old Houston Oilers jerseys, and you know, the ribboning on
the walls around the field would have Houston oilers on it.
I mean, just numerous different things that, if nothing else,
it was a strong coincidence that the team that used
to be here was playing the team that is now
here in Houston. And oh yeah, we've got oilers everything,
it's gonna say Houston on the board, all those different

(01:13:00):
types of things. Yeah, hey, it's just a coincidence. It's
not about you, guys, It's about us. Now, are you
talking about the Titans?

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
The Titans.

Speaker 5 (01:13:08):
Yes, yeah, well it's it's not by accident. If that's
what you're asking, is that your question?

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
It's it's it's leading to a even larger question. Okay,
what is that?

Speaker 4 (01:13:19):
And the Titans yesterday announced that they are doing away
with the Oilers jerseys, that they will instead have a
new oiler blue jersey with the emphasis on the Titans,
and it immediately started to spark questions on Texans Twitter
of people wondering, oh, so both years you warm against
the Texans, you lost, so you're doing away with them

(01:13:40):
because you're like, oh, yeah, these are icky. They're not
They're not good because you know we haven't beaten those guys.

Speaker 5 (01:13:45):
Let me ask you this, it's no longer the the
Oilers and you're in Texas, but you're the Houston Texans
and they were the Oilers, but now they're the Tennessee Titans.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
Does it matter to you? Maybe not them using it
because they're in Tennessee. But do you want to use.

Speaker 5 (01:14:06):
Love your blue jerseys and all that here even though
it's the Texans, or do you just want to hoard
it and not let anybody use it but it stays here?

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
What's more important to you?

Speaker 4 (01:14:16):
I would say that probably it should be the second,
because it's kind of like the Astrodome. Howeverybody here holds
the Astrodome in high regard. My cousin brought up a
great point years ago. The Astrodome was pretty much a
house of horrors for both the Astros and the Oilers.
Nothing really good ever even happened in that building. I
mean the Astros all those playoff series against the Braves
and then that one against the Padres. Did anything necessarily

(01:14:38):
could happen in those No, the Mets, Phillies and the eighties.
No same deal with the Oilers.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
Love You Blue.

Speaker 4 (01:14:44):
We all loved it because of ray Ers, Yeah, bum
Phillips and you know, Pastorini and Earl and all those guys,
but you still couldn't beat the Steelers, and you still
didn't get over the hump and doing that, you never
really kicked in the damn door as bum Phillips told
us so that they were going to try to do.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
I mean, I think that's more than anything.

Speaker 4 (01:15:04):
It's the nostalgia that wins out, much more than actually saying, hey,
you know, maybe it would be a good idea to
kind of move away from this, because again, nothing really
good ever happened with them.

Speaker 5 (01:15:14):
Do you think people would love it if they came
out in game three with the powder blue Love You
Blue here? I think they would. So that's why I'm
saying that. My question is do you just want to
take it from them in store saying you ain't using it?
This is tex what it is, right, it's hard, don't
need it here. You can create you can create another

(01:15:35):
uniform that feels similar to it, but it's it's no
longer the Oilers and it's not the Titans. It is
in Texas but you're the Houston Texans. There's almost this
part of me says, you know what, this is a
jersey that's been retired. We're keeping in our building, and
it's cool to know we got it. And you could
sell some memorabilia if you want, referring to the fact

(01:15:56):
that this is the love You blue, but it belongs
here in Texas and people can go buy Earl Campbell
jersey and if you want to slap a CJ. Stroudger,
I get it. But as far as on the field,
there's a part of me that says, once you took it,
and now we can get it if you could get
it back. Once you took it, you ruined that and

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you shouldn't be wearing it there because you're Tennessee, had
nothing to do with Texas, okay, and here.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
We're the Texas.

Speaker 5 (01:16:22):
Now we've moved on, but we still want to honor
the greatness that was these jerseys and this team, and
so we're going to have it here. We can use
it for memorabilia. Here, you can sell it just to
know you got it, right, but preserve it as opposed
to because I necessarily if they go out, it still
would be odd that you're the Houston Texans and you're
wearing to Love You blue. But it's much more odd
if you're the Tennessee Titans. Regardless of who the owner

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is wearing love You Blue in Tennessee. Let's face facts. Well,
in the belongs here, whether you wear it or not.

Speaker 4 (01:16:49):
And it's I mean the Texans have kind of a
skirting around it a little bit with their alternate jersey.

Speaker 7 (01:16:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:16:56):
Should the Baltimore Ravens be wearing the Cleveland Brown's color, Well,
they were nice enough to give it backing. That's that's
my point. I mean, are the indian Are the Baltimore
Colts meaning the Baltimore Ravens wearing Indianapolis Colts stuff?

Speaker 4 (01:17:13):
Now, ers's dad of course going up there, Bob half
up on some bourbon.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
I'm not moving the gd team once. That happened while
the trucks loaded then of the night.

Speaker 5 (01:17:26):
Yeah, so that's my point. It's like, I mean, when
does the grudge of this is ours? We move at
some point in times like doesn't it belong? And you
know how the Adams family wins over here at least
maybe not wins them over, but is saying, you know what,
it belongs there, just don't wear it again, you know.
And if that's the case, but your memorable the rest

(01:17:47):
of it. I just think I think it's more sent
It's kind of like the astrodome that you mentioned. The
truth is it's more sentimental. Why are you doing that?
You left here this is our jersey, as opposed to,
even though it's a cool ass jersey, wanting to wear
it on a regular basis.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
I think it's also too.

Speaker 4 (01:18:04):
It's kind of like a breakup where you don't get closure,
because everybody tells themselves that, oh, if I get closure,
I'll move on.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
I'll be fine. I want the ring back, Sure, there's
that you want.

Speaker 4 (01:18:14):
You want, you want to know, like you kind of
want the autopsy of hey, why didn't we work out, which,
more often than not, you're not going to get. But
I think that that's more of fans. What we want
from this is just, hey, just give us it back
and it's all good. It's all fine. We don't have
to focus on the fact that it's.

Speaker 5 (01:18:29):
Secured in our safety deposit box, not yours, that you
mailed it in in your final years after you know,
Harris County told you you're not getting a stadium we
did everything for you here at the Astrodome.

Speaker 4 (01:18:39):
We took out the scoreboard to give you more rainbow seats,
like no, sorry, we're not doing it.

Speaker 5 (01:18:44):
It kind of reminds me too of well, they're still
the Chargers, but they're in LA. And you know, it
still pains the San Diego folks big time that Spano
stay up and left. And that was a team I played,
for sure the last year of my career, and so
you think they're powdab. The uniforms are as good as
there is and Charger fans still love them. I know
they're only two miles I mean, two hours away, but

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there's still that you.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
Can't be aware of those. You're not the San Diego check.
That's reserved for the Charger, but there's still the Charges.

Speaker 5 (01:19:12):
Say, the name hasn't changed and you're still in California,
so that even plays a little more towards the Spanos
and being in LA and all that stuff. But still
the point of contention of with fan bases is it's
the hold on to it, and you're right, the closure
hold on to what you spend, especially if you're born
and bred here and you saw it all the way

(01:19:32):
through and you've seen every organization. It's like, how in
the world can you take that out of here? Okay,
how in the world can you move that a historic
hotel in Texas and stick it in Tennessee and think
that you deserve the right even though you left and
change your name to go to another state, that that
historic hotel doesn't belong here, meaning the jersey. So yeah,
I don't even think you need to wear it, but

(01:19:52):
to know it's in your safety deposit box probably a
little better. The fans would probably Okay, breathe a little easier.
It's not that big a deal in the big scheme
of things. But if you like history and you have
that need of closure, that would be a wise thing.
But I doubt you're ever going to get that. Such
as life, we win.

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
Some we lose. So when it comes to the jersey,
that's it. That's it for sure. All right?

Speaker 4 (01:20:15):
Coming up next, let's get into Cooog's in the at Tourney.
How good does this van base have it?

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
Right now?

Speaker 4 (01:20:21):
We were reminded this week that's next right here. Sports
Talk seven ninety KBMS.

Speaker 11 (01:20:27):
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This is Sports Talk seven ninety from the Parsons that
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Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
Sean Salisbury, USC Troup, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
Dan Matthew. This is the Sean Seals Very Show.

Speaker 4 (01:21:08):
Also a one twenty one one ten dub in Alabama,
Florida Duke and Texas Tech all moving on to the
Elite eight. You have aged plays tonight, Sean against Purdue
Sweet sixteen, and I you know me and you have
talked about it numerous times of what's the first thing
that championship teams? The commissioner, whoever it is, hands them

(01:21:29):
the trophy, and then the microphone starts getting passed around.
You talk to the head coach, you talk to the
most outstanding player, somebody. At some certain point hearkens back to, oh,
this is why we lifted all those weights, this is
why we ran the stadiums, this is why we did
all of that work. And it sucked at the time,
it was terrible, but we're remembering back to that because
that's what built this championship. I would say another emotion,

(01:21:52):
and this is more for the fans side, Like, go
back to twenty seventeen and you have the ground ball,
Corey Seeger, jose A l Twov pulls it in, throws
it over to Yuli Guriel and the jubilation, the euphoria,
all of that, it starts just pouring out of you.
But then I think, at least I did. I started

(01:22:13):
thinking about the awful years of the Astros, of going
there and it's a not even half full astrodome. It's
ninety empty.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
I mean it is.

Speaker 4 (01:22:24):
You could almost pick your seat wherever you wanted. You
could start counting people in there of how bad they
were at certain points. You remember the guys that were
on those teams. Here a conversation from three sections, right,
I mean you just remember when it was you're an
Astros fan, man, that must suck, Like that's that's what
you remember? Back to Well, you of H kind of
took people down memory lane this week with a pretty

(01:22:45):
cool video and it was when Kelvin Sampson took over
the program back in twenty sixteen. He's going around at
campus with a bullhorn trying to get kids to come
the u of H basketball games. Hey, come support our guys.
Where most kids just kind of walking around basketball and
that dingy built Yeah, we're good, man, Like it's you
guys haven't been good in over thirty years, Like we're cool.

(01:23:08):
I think we're gonna just probably stick to, you know,
the drinking on the Friday nights and all that kind
of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
That's that's what we're gonna stick with.

Speaker 4 (01:23:15):
Whereas then you fast forward to now a renovated building,
a top program in the country, and it's just kind
of it was more or less, I think a reminder
to everybody of, hey, if this thing plays out the
way that we hope it does, remember back to those
times when it wasn't great.

Speaker 5 (01:23:31):
Yeah, And that's that's the It's almost the way athletes
feel once again focused on the things that weren't good
as opposed to the things that were.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
It's a great appreciation. I know that's crazy, but it's
almost human nature.

Speaker 5 (01:23:42):
And it also and you do you think about, man,
I remember the first time the Red Sox won the
World Series.

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
A good friend of mine.

Speaker 5 (01:23:51):
Father had never had Red Sox, lifelong Red Sox fans
seventies and never seen it and literally brought said it
brought him to tears at that and we scared those
stories all the time, and I would imagine that happened
here to some but brought to tears and they just
couldn't wait to hug their pops and be around him
at that moment, or were around him and said it

(01:24:11):
was the greatest feeling ever because you're thinking back to
all the oh my gosh, and the reward that goes
to it, and in truth cliche as it gets, but
that is why you go through all that stuff and
question yourself and get kicked in the teeth and wonder
is it worth it and everything, And while winning these
games is worth it, it doesn't mean really, it's just
another step in the journey to get to when you

(01:24:32):
can say that when you're cutting down the nets, right,
that's the big thing I'm talking about on the final
So yeah, it is tough, but you do remember it's
like anything if you were dominating, hit rock bottom and
come back and you make a comeback in your life
whatever it is, sure, or you were a non drink
or drank alcohol, come back and now you're you're sober

(01:24:54):
or whatever it is, and you've you you always you
don't think back to the first time when you were
in the penthouse. You think about the outhouse, what it
was like in quicksand when you thought you were drowning,
and then you think about, man, it's not only like proud.
You think about the people who helped you on the journey, right,
same thing here. You go through it all and all
the things that pissed you off, and you resisted. So

(01:25:14):
it's human nature and I get it because you do.
It's like my first one when they won, it was
how much I loved Billy Buckner, and I was thinking
back to you, I know what happened seventy five against
the Reds, but the most recent on eighty six, You're like, man,
I wish he was on the team because a guy
who actually had twenty six twenty seven hundred hits was
a great player, Hall of fame. I mean his dude,

(01:25:35):
when you're flirting twenty with three thousand hits, that's a
lot of times. A trip to Canton, and the only
thing people ever remembered about Billy Bucker not his Dodger career,
not how good he was at the Red behine. That's
the right anchors and high cleats, yes, and you remember that.
So mine went back to there, thinking, man, I bet
Billy Buckner would love this, you know, or you know
Carlton Fisk or Louis Tiant that one. But how dramatic

(01:25:58):
that was against the Mets, and so you do you
recall those dark moments. It was like, I know, it's baseball,
but we've all suffered through dark sports moments. And then
then to pay it off. And even if it's not
you that's paying it off, it's your your beloved team,
whether it's the Cougars or in this case, the Astros
in seventeen.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
I'm reminded of a few years ago.

Speaker 4 (01:26:18):
I had a chance to sit with my high school
baseball coaches from Wister mass It was the Red Sox
in town playing against the Astros, and his son was
there with him. Shoutout, coach Connor, what's up, buddy, And
he's a lifelong Red Sox fan, And I just remembered
at one point in the game, he kind of, you know,
taps me on the shoulder and goes, you know what.
The funny thing about all of this is he points
to his son. He goes, he thinks it's so damn

(01:26:40):
easy being a Red Sox fan. He goes, he doesn't
realize the pain and anguish I went through for over
forty five years trying to see this team win a
World series.

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
Was his kid a youth, He was probably like twenty
one twenty two at this time. Okay, yeah, this is about.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
Ten years ago.

Speaker 5 (01:26:55):
Well then the kid only saw Red Sox success, right,
like three world series, Right, that's what he saw.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
What do you mean, dad?

Speaker 1 (01:27:01):
Yeah, you want me to show you what I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:27:03):
Right, get now the history of the player, great players.
But to close it out here, here's what I've gone through, right,
But yeah, I guess what we always say is we
want our kids to have better than we had. But
you say, but let's not get carried away. I need
you to see a little bit of adversity. You don't
just get to enjoy the shiny ring of the figure.
Right to get to this point, all the rest of

(01:27:23):
us had to suffer and get kicked in a rib cage,
and then you get to reap the benefits, so that
you know we reaped it, you sowed it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:29):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
I mean, it's the same here.

Speaker 4 (01:27:31):
I say it all the time that Astros fans, some
of them, like either A, have forgotten what it's like
to be an Astros fan or B don't know what
it's like to be an Astros fan, because there's a
generation in this city who see the Astros and they're like, oh, yeah,
awesome World Series, LCS is all of that, that's what
we know. Where then I'm the one who looks at them.
Ross and other people who've grown up in the city

(01:27:52):
most of their life say no, like I know about
losing to the Braves in the DS when you think
you're gonna beat them, or you got Randy Johnson, Oh
the Padres, come on, man, Kevin Brown, all of those guys,
Greg Vaughan, come on, get out of here. And then
you lose that and you're just like, is this ever
going to happen? So when twenty seventeen does, and then
people afterwards want to try to cheapen it, I'm like,

(01:28:13):
screw you, dude. We not only went through a hurricane
to get to that point that rescued this city, but
like that like completely like changed the just the trajectory
of this organization.

Speaker 5 (01:28:24):
And now ten years or so, you know, working on
the ten years, eight years, nine years that you've gone
through this, now the winning part of it, when you say, oh,
they won the division. It's like, eh, won the division
last year, Okay, big deal. You know, yeah, you've cared
and that's a good thing. But it's also it's not
as easy as it's looked for Fred, It's never this easy,

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no matter. And if it's not been easy, you think
about some of the strugg having to win it on
the last day of the season and then go through
and grind and beat the Dodgers and walk off home runs.
I mean you start to think about the grind to
win them. Yeah, but they're right. There's there's generations like, eh,
what a historic franchise. You guys never had failure. Let
me take you back to twenty fourteen and we'll talk.

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
Yeah, exactly. So it's a.

Speaker 5 (01:29:13):
Every Fran base has suffered through it, but there's certain
age groups that haven't had to suffer through. If you're
a New England Patriot fan the last twenty years, you're like,
I wouldn't know what happened back.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
In the day when they were the Boston Patriots because
you know what doesn't matter. Yeah, they don't care. They
remember when they played at foxboroughs said Tom won ten
of us. It has been to ten and one six here.

Speaker 4 (01:29:32):
Yeah, they had that guy, Drew Drew Bledsoe playing quarterback.
You remember those, Remember those days, Ben Coats, And I got.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
News for you. That dude could rip it around the lot.

Speaker 5 (01:29:41):
Dude, he can make some damn good work. You're playing
him in Minnesota and we played there. They came back
and beat us in overtime. He pumped out almost five
hundred against us, and our defense was nasty. Dude, he
could The ball wouldn't hit the ground if he'd been
thrown it underhand with a blindfold on. I'm sitting there
watching because I'd known him since Kay's like, I mean,
he just put it. It was clinical, like are you
kidding me? Game ends and he's got like four fifty five.

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It's like, oh, people forget how good Brady was. The
truth of the matter is Bledsoe, as far as a
pure spinner of the football, may have been the best
New England's ever had through just.

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
Flat ass throwing it right.

Speaker 5 (01:30:16):
Bled Sell could friggin rip it, but you just never
know when it's gonna come to fruition where you get that. Hell,
Tony Easton had him in a Super Bowl, right, and
Tony was a good player, yep. But then there's just
something different about twelve in New England, you know, for
two decades, so you know, but I'll take the winning
over the losing any day of the week. So you know,
the lesson's bigger and the losing special.

Speaker 4 (01:30:35):
People can change mindsets and that's what Kelvin Sampson has
done here in Houston.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
Dominic.

Speaker 4 (01:30:40):
Eric, see you guys right there, get to you here
on the Salisbury Show. And also too, what if winning
is not good enough? Somebody, well they threw that out there.
We'll tell you exactly who that is.

Speaker 2 (01:30:52):
Right here. It is the Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk
seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
Let the celebration start. Sean Salisbury, This Sean Salsbury Show.

Speaker 4 (01:31:06):
Dominic wants to weigh in here on the Shawn Salisbury Show, Dominic.

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
What's up.

Speaker 7 (01:31:10):
Good morning to you, Sean, Good morning to you, Dan, Dan.
This is my first time Carlin Sisue taking over the seat,
so welcome my man.

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
Well thanks buddy, appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
Man.

Speaker 7 (01:31:19):
Sean, you know where I'm going with this. You tell
you guys talking about the bad days of sports franchises. Dan,
I'm a Houston Cougar to the heart. I was a
Houston Cougar when the football team was trashed with no
one to Robertson Stadium. I'm a lawyer, Houston Cougar. When
how Pine's pavilion had maybe thirty or forty people, and
I'm proud Sean knows this about me. I'm so proud

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and make no mistake about it. Kelvin Sampson is the
reason why Kelvin has made my school, my institution a brand.
When you have national media and people talk about the
national media that they don't get to Houston our props,
you got to earn that type of that type of talk.
Kelvin Sampson has walked in and he's taught that. He's
grinded my institution, University of Used to to national prominence.

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We just hire a really, really good women's basketball coach
because the women's program is taken off and we want
to be a part of that. What Chilman Fatida has
done for my institution as far as being the chairman
of the board and finding all of these the renovations
to the facilities and just just doing big things, I'm
proud of that. But Kelvin Sampson has shown with hard work,

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dedication getting out there, not being embarrassed to to not
so much lawyer yourself to walk around the campus with
a megaphone. I saw it, I actually saw it. I
was a grad student and I saw him. When we
hired him, it was, you know, skulled of us. You
know what he did at Oklahoma and things of that nature.
But I felt that my hearted, it was a good hire.
So all I want to say is whether we win

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it all or don't. Sean, I've been calling your show
since you've been on the air. That's not what's important
to me. What's important to me is he has raised
the bar for the university, if used to athletic department,
he has raised for US academically. We graduate, he graduates
our kids, He makes them into a good man and
across our entire athletic landscape. That's the expectation. That's the

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standard that he is.

Speaker 10 (01:33:11):
He has set.

Speaker 7 (01:33:11):
Met the man so many times, Shaun, you were friends
with him. He's a great guy, he's a great leader,
and he is the reason why that US logo is
now mentioned just in regularity all over the country as
far as basketball and what the program, other aspects of
our program could be. My man, Dan, you will hear
from me again. I don't really have a lot of time.
Al you guys got other callers, but Gokon's thank you,

(01:33:33):
Kelvin Sampson and showing one more thing. Please give me
just thirty maybe ten cents.

Speaker 10 (01:33:37):
Chant.

Speaker 7 (01:33:38):
I appreciate your show because you talk about more than
just the obvious. You talk about everything, and everything is
for us, golf, whatever, it doesn't matter. So man, keep
up the good work. I've said this once a year before.
Your show is a God said your fresh birth of
fresh air, because we get tired of hearing about the
the the quote unquote what people want to hear.

Speaker 5 (01:33:56):
Thank you, my man, Dominy, Thank you appreciate buddy, phenomenal complement.

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
I sure appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (01:34:01):
And you've from day one been calling here and your
passion for your cougars is unmatched. Honestly that I and
we get a lot of great callers, but he he's
it's almost like it's in his soul, and I think
it is, and I do appreciate the competent. I don't
take you guys with this show or this career for
granted ever, and I never will. So I know what
the other side looks like, and I prefer this one.

(01:34:22):
I am with you too on I mean, you make
so many great points that I don't think I can
uplift those because they're very well pointed out and taken.
But the main one is and maybe I'm a little
more emotional to it like he is, because I love
Coach Sampson and I've had conversations with him that aren't
just and I'm not afraid to let people into those
that go beyond x's and o's basketball, and those are

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the one.

Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:34:46):
He is a phenomenal, deep dive human being who cares.
I hear a lot of coaches spewedbs about Karen. They
care about their kids when their kids are good. For HM,
I can picture Kelvin sam and go into a former
player's house and having dinner with his family. I love
him and don't tell me that a coach. And a

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lot of times we say, well, one person doesn't make
a difference. That that's not true. One person can't win
a baseball game, can sure help, but one manager can
bring a whole bunch of players together to win. Leadership
is Leadership is maybe the most important and under used
thing we have in the country.

Speaker 2 (01:35:29):
The right leadership.

Speaker 5 (01:35:30):
I'm talking about in sport anywhere, and sometimes it just
comes along and a guy gets it. And a guy
really is not here for just a paycheck. Everybody wants
to get paid for their job, but a guy and
I believe if you're there for the paycheck, that there's
that eventually that can run out. You know, if you're
there for the awards and the paycheck, it's that deep
dive inside. I think Kelvin said the money's just the

(01:35:52):
ad on or you know, him getting paid to coach.
I think coach Sampson would coach for free. Now nobody's
gonna do that in this day. But you get my point.
He does care and I can tell you this is
not absolutely not family. As you can see, there's heavy
family involved. But he doesn't just have family sitting around
that aren't doing anything. He's got people that are that
are making things happen. And that's exactly right. And he

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is has changed and it was a great point by Dominic.
He's changed like that, not just the culture but the
way people look at the program and he is now
you got good players, but he is directly responsible. And
Tilman Fertita in that groups belief in what this guy's
about you. You've got a guy who literally basketball while important.

(01:36:38):
The life lessons from winning and losing basketball, I can
guarantee you are more important than coach Sampson.

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
Now what's important?

Speaker 5 (01:36:46):
He wants to win a national chap for the but
you know when the coaches it's for the kids, and
he's really thinking, no, it's for my pay race.

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
It ain't that. Ain't who this is. Yeah, and I
rarely when we're.

Speaker 5 (01:36:55):
Talking about a game, and I sent him a mess
say good luck tonight, coach, is any thanks, Sean Rare?
Do I get a message back that says I always
get one? But do I ever get a message back
that says, yeah, I can't believe I'm in this situation. Boy,
what a road it's been. It's I'm so happy for
my kids. Man, this is a different, unique group. He's

(01:37:15):
always got something. It's not it's not generic every it's
it's it's really uncanny. And you got to be cut
a different cat to do what he's done. And this
dude has immersed himself into this program as if his
family's life and his kids, and he considers those kids
his family depends on it. And it's basketball, but it's

(01:37:37):
it's it's bigger than that for him, and I love
him and every year I'll root for him, but you
don't don't tell me this dude's not one of the
best coaches in the country.

Speaker 4 (01:37:45):
For a lot of different reasons. There's no better example
Senior Night this year. Juwan Roberts just finishing up his
sixth season there in the program, and you saw Kelvin
Sampson just how overcome with emotion he was. Because Joseph d'Arte,
when I talked with him about it, brought up a
great when he goes, Kelvin's been here eleven years and
Juwan's been here six.

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
So yeah, there's a lot of emotion there.

Speaker 4 (01:38:05):
There there's a lot of emotion, but now there's there's
a lot of you know, you're taking a guy that
you know, you're you're trying to make into somewhat of
a contributing player who then becomes really a cornerstone for
your organization, and it's kind of a this is this
is finally over.

Speaker 2 (01:38:19):
You're you're finally moving on.

Speaker 4 (01:38:21):
It's like, you know, there there's happiness for your kids
to move on and go live their own life, but
there's also a they're not that little kid anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:38:28):
I want you to think for a second up and
down this state, or east and west, in this state,
north southeast, everywhere, high school, college pro of not just
who's got a ring on their finger, of everything that
encounters coaching young men or women in sports. Fair enough,
think about this for one second, and I want you

(01:38:49):
and listen. If I tell you that we've got some
pretty you know, good baseballs, the Shlaschneckels a good baseball coach,
You're gonna say, absolutely, right, good, good baseball coach. But
there's a lot they wins right way, Yeah wins.

Speaker 4 (01:39:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:39:03):
If I say that Steve Sarkisian is a good coach
and ut loves and you say, yeah, good coach, seems
like my point is I'm talking about guy coach, impact
on players, all the things that are encompassed by being
a leader. I say it every year and until somebody
proves me different, I want you to show me. And
this is no disrespect to the great Joe spot as

(01:39:24):
good manager's still in the infancy. Dusty Baker was did
a phenomenal job here. You take Willie Fritz, I think
is going to do great things here and has done
a great did a great job to Lane and in
his coaching career. I mean, look at emi Udoko, who's
still on the rise in his career or before him.
I don't care who it is. Go to all the universities,
all the high schools, and some of the best coaches

(01:39:44):
in the planet are going to be high school coaches
that on male female. Baylor's head basketball coach a major impactful.
I mean, he's think about coach Drew's now been there
on what twenty years almost something yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39:59):
Worked, he's yeh.

Speaker 5 (01:40:00):
Think about what he's done for a program that was
reeling after what had happened. Right, That's exactly right. So
you go all right from the when Michael Leach was
coaching at Texas Tech, there knew all of it. There
is no better coach and I've said it along Kelvin
Sampson in a huge state with great high school, college
and pro there is no better, all encompassing coach on

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everything that that job requires.

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
He doesn't need it at this at his age. He's
not I'm not saying he's older, but he is. He
doesn't need that.

Speaker 5 (01:40:32):
He may need it for a soul for helping players,
but Kevin Samson's accomplished enough, he's a Hall of Famer,
but he loves these kids and it drives him. There's
no better coach in this country. I mean in this state. Now,
I can make the argument is Sport that it's him
and is Oh and a handful of guys that are
in the same class. There's no better coach at any
level in this state. This is the best coach all

(01:40:53):
around for his impact in this state. And I say
that I don't. I say without hesitation, and that's a
hell of a competition we got going on in this state.

Speaker 4 (01:41:02):
Well in the standard too is already there on campus
because I'm at the Willie Fritz press conference last year,
and I think it was Toeman Fertita that said it
of basically, we want to find another Kelvin Samson.

Speaker 5 (01:41:13):
Damn right, and it'll raise And Willie Fritz was wasn't
born yesterday, he knows had a coach. But in that building,
like a good player permeates to the building, the other
coaches raise their game because it's like every damn year,
it doesn't matter. They're playing at a level that we
all need to play at and they're keeping people in there,
you know, I mean, hell nil is going to raise

(01:41:33):
at University of Houston. You want to know why, Kelvin Samson.
That's exactly right, and it will raise not just for
his people, his group, meaning basketball throughout the program because
of him.

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
This is I will make the argument.

Speaker 5 (01:41:47):
You know, you have to have a guy like John McClain,
Warren Moon to Hall of Fame guy that it's given there,
you know, it's pine and form and tell them why
they belong in. And John's done a great job of that.
I could go around this country and if if we
need that that battle, I can pound the table for
Kelvin Samps.

Speaker 2 (01:42:03):
I don't even need to pound it hard.

Speaker 5 (01:42:04):
There's very few that would disagree that this is as good,
if not the best coach at any level in this
state of Texas, which puts him in rarefied air in
his business across the country.

Speaker 2 (01:42:15):
And it's funny too.

Speaker 4 (01:42:16):
His coaches show at jbar M the topic of nil
came up and he looked out to the crowd and goes,
and do we want to keep winning around here? We
want to keep doing this? He went the other way.
He goes, I think we remember what the old times were.
We don't want the old times again. And he's just
as transparent as it gets.

Speaker 5 (01:42:33):
And the truth of the matters, well, Kelvin may not
love everything that goes with the money, because that's not
how he operates. He also knows the rules say in
order to keep up. I mean, the rules are set,
you can beat him or join him. And if you don't,
and now look, destination spot And that's directly responsible for
the dude who's the head basketball coach at the University
of Houston legend already in my mind, a Hall of famer.

(01:42:57):
You don't have to be great to have a ring
on your finger, but I'm telling you validation maybe for others,
and you want it. And I hope he gets it.
That dude's that dude knows that the destination is important.
I'm sure it's it's the that dude's journey, and he's
he knows what rock Bottom looks like, which I think
has also helped him at this stage of his career.
I love him, and then you can't convince me otherwise

(01:43:19):
I will fistfight for Kelvin Sampson.

Speaker 2 (01:43:21):
He lives in reality.

Speaker 4 (01:43:23):
He's one of those that's the saying, don't worry about
how you want things to be just worry about the
way they are. And that's the reality of college sports,
whether you like it or not.

Speaker 5 (01:43:31):
Imagine being the GM now Andrew Lucky is for Stanford,
is being the GM at University of Houston, and that's
that's who you get to deal with. And Coach Fritz
and him that that get it, you know, the rest
of the program. But just using those two as an example,
you're like, yeah, it's pretty easy GM job.

Speaker 2 (01:43:45):
You know, the expectations are pretty self explanatory. Ain't that hard?

Speaker 5 (01:43:50):
I can handle this, gig man, because I know what
the expectations are. Get whatever you need to get done,
prioritize and win, that's it. And make an impact on
these kids that give you a chance to make an impact.
And by gosh that the Kelvin Sampson does well. Maybe
sometimes winning isn't enough. I'll explain here Sewn Salisbury Show.

(01:44:11):
The Sewn Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 4 (01:44:16):
From Michigan State head coach Tom Izzo, and of course
he gave that impassioned rant about you know, the transfer
portal being opened during the tournament and.

Speaker 1 (01:44:26):
So many words.

Speaker 4 (01:44:26):
He just said, you know what, don't worry about the
guys I got and if that cost me down the road,
all right, so be it. Well, he's a national championship
winning head coach and being asked about this upcoming game
tonight against Ole Miss, like I said, they're a three
and a half point favorite. Hey, a chance to be
able to win, move on and get to the Elite eight.
His response very simple. Once he won a national championship,

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winning tournament games really means nothing. It doesn't turn me on.

Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:44:53):
I think that some people around here can resonate with
those words, because I mean Astros fans feel the same way.
Winning a playoff game, Hey, you won the division series. Hey,
don't pop the champagne.

Speaker 2 (01:45:04):
What are you doing?

Speaker 4 (01:45:05):
There's so much more to do, Like I understand it's
an accomplishment all those things, but really, don't go crazy
with the champagne in there. You still got two more
series to go. Like you've had a taste of that drug.

Speaker 2 (01:45:16):
You know what it is. You want to be able
to get back to it.

Speaker 4 (01:45:19):
And it's always funny the dynasty word is thrown around,
and you know, we've seen it with the Patriots other teams.
But then when you really look at the grand scheme
of things, national championships that have been won, say, Ohio
State just won the national championship in football? How many
national championships over the last twenty five years did they have?

Speaker 2 (01:45:39):
Three?

Speaker 4 (01:45:40):
There's twenty two more years where they didn't do it,
but there's three. But it doesn't stop them from trying
to get back and make it a fourth, a fifth,
any of those other things.

Speaker 5 (01:45:50):
It's fun that in nineteen seventy eight USC Trugs won
a national championship. I wasn't on that team, so I'm
sure there rings nice. I want my own, sure, And
that's the way players think here. It's great history and
legacy and all. That may not mean as much as
it used to to college sports, but to some you're
exactly right. And I love Isla's approach. Don't think that
that's just a message he's saying for himself. There's a

(01:46:13):
I don't even know if it's hidden. It's probably as
subtle as a Mike Tyson punched to the face is
telling his kids that you've been a sweet sixteen. There's
sixteen of us that get here. There's sixteen of us.
Now you want to get to the eight, there's eight.
So if you lose, you finished in eighth place. Is basically,
And that's the way I'd look at it. Not that
it's not a nice accomplishment, but no offense. When you

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go through the rest of your life, you come back,
hey man, how to do well? We got to the
Elite eight Once.

Speaker 2 (01:46:42):
You're not wearing that Elite eight ring around the lot
or hanging a banner. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:46:45):
So the message the message from well, it's successful, and
you want your kids to embrace it and enjoy every
step of the journey. Take a deep sigh and get
your ass handed to you. You won't really care about
the first two games you wanted. The tournament doesn't mean
a hill of beans. So listen when people say, oh,
you know, is you know the winning thing?

Speaker 2 (01:47:06):
Is it winning?

Speaker 5 (01:47:06):
Or about the lesson you learn? Well, the lessons you
learn will shape your life the rest of your life.
But make no mistake about it. If you're Michigan State
or Old you ain't playing a night for a pat
on the back and in a you know, a consolation
prize or the old you know, moral victory prize. Hey,
we played him close. That's a blue blood program. We're
all miss we're Football State. That's not the way you're thinking,

(01:47:27):
and neither is tom Izzo. And that's why you look
at Izzo when he's doing a press conference, doesn't he
It's like or when you saw Saban those got Bill Snyder.
My guy Brody just said when in Bill Snyder's cut
from the same cloth as like a he might be
invited to that party. We're talking about that Bill Snyder,
Tom Izzo. They can be old school, but they also
know how to impact eighteen year old. So that's what

(01:47:49):
drives me cral there over. No Bill Snyder in his
eighties knew how to impact an eighteen year old. Izzoe
knows how to impact the seventeen eighteen year old. Kelvin
Samson here can impact a fifty year old, can impact
a twenty year old. So they all have there's something
in their DNA that's similar. But look at his owe
when he's doing a press conference, his intensity and his passion, Dude,
will the only thing he can't control is he can't

(01:48:11):
go out there and dribble the basketball and shoot it,
but he is. It's never the players that the coach
for guys like Izzo. Dizzo doesn't need to match their
energy while they bring it out. I mean, eighteen year
old kids can keep you. That's why guys coach tell
their eighty Sure, who doesn't want to keep you young?
And you got kids and grandkids keeps you young and
you live till your one hundred and five.

Speaker 2 (01:48:33):
They got to match his. They got to match his.

Speaker 5 (01:48:36):
If there's anybody on Michigan State who can say I've arrived,
guess who it is?

Speaker 2 (01:48:42):
That dude?

Speaker 5 (01:48:43):
Okay, but or Kelvin Sampson here or when Saban was
in Alabama. But you know, the last person who thinks
they've arrived in Michigan State is the guy who's going
to coach him against old Miss tonight. Hence why that's
why they keep winning. Aside from he knows that to
coach and get to the kids and reach them and
get by and all the things that go with it,
the extra stuff, it's not the kids matching.

Speaker 2 (01:49:07):
It is happening to match his kids energy or or
want to tonight. Oh he's got that.

Speaker 5 (01:49:14):
It's can you keep up with his desire and passion
and what it's going to take to do the little
things to beat ole Miss and continue on to the
you know, to the Elite eight and then the final
four so and then to win it all. So yeah,
I guys like that. The message isn't hey, we got
a ribbon. The message should be we want the trophy.

(01:49:36):
You win tonight and lose an extra You got a ribbon. Hey, great,
Jeff Thumb's up. Cool, it was impressive. Guys are good.
But that guy's want enough that the red ribbon, the
white ribbon for third place, whatever it is are giving
away ain't the big shiny trophy. And then when he
gets to get the big shiny trophy, you knowe, the
first thing he's gonna be thinking about is how do
I come back and win again next year. That's why

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those guys they don't enjoy the wins enough, but that's
what makes them special. And at the end of it all,
they'll go back and enjoy him it one day and
it's all means something. You know when when Gene Katie's
watching his Purdue guys play now, but they gen Katy
still wants to coach. You know, if he could get
out there and do it, you never stop. That's exactly right.
So that's the the Izzo's. Kelvin's probably going the same
thought process. Hey, you remember you're all off season at Fester's.

(01:50:22):
When you get beat tonight, you get beat next week.
But when you win the championship, the off season now
comes into all right, let's put the plan in. We're
coming back to do this damn thing again. It's a
different feel.

Speaker 4 (01:50:32):
It reminds me of a story Randy Cross once told
me about. Tell them who Randy Cross is. Randy Cross
was a former center for the forty nine ers back
in the eighties. They won Super Bowls Joe Montana, but
I think they had won the NFC and then lost
in the Super Bowl and Walsh Bill Walsh, the coach
at the time, gave them either belt buckles or watches

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as hey, congratulations, and then it was kind of like
a little bit of a all right, yeah, it's nice,
but it's not great. He goes, Yeah, I get it,
because that's not the goal. The goal is something else. Yeah,
when the watch says runner up, you wear it, but
it's not as important. When the watch says champion, you
may wear it once in a while, but you lock
and key it away and then you open it up
and you stare at it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:14):
That's a big difference. Yeah, age difference.

Speaker 4 (01:51:16):
All right, coming up next, there's somebody out there who
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Speaker 1 (01:51:21):
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Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
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Speaker 4 (01:53:51):
You know, I mentioned tom Izzo in the last segment.
He had an impassioned speech about the transfer portal being
open in the tournament. Well, he's not the only one
that feels a certain way, and well, this guy, I think,
kind of sounds a lot like you do in terms
of how we should start treating it. Guys that you
know you're benefiting from this, which again I don't think

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anybody disagrees that, you know, players should not be getting
a little something, you know, for the action of being
able to tap into the market that is out there
for them. Dick vital is one of those people, and
he's got something that I think is sort of in
line with your idea about freedom. Like the pros, you
can cut them, you can do all these different things,

(01:54:32):
you can find them. That's kind of what I'm throwing
in there from what you said the other day. He's
proposing contracts of saying, continue paying the athletes, that's fine,
but have him signed contracts that keep them committed to
one program.

Speaker 1 (01:54:45):
He said this on with.

Speaker 4 (01:54:48):
Dan Dakich on his OutKick show of saying that it's
total chaos, stability, out of whack, it's the wild West.
We never should open the portal in the heart of
the tournament. It's a joke. But also taking it a
step further of seeing, you know, people want to talk
about free agency. This isn't even free agency. It's just
people can just go and leave whatever they feel.

Speaker 5 (01:55:10):
But yeah, free agency is that you've had a contract
and you left when it ended. Sure, This is you
got a contract, leave whenever you want. Sure, And I'm
going to go back to this, Dan, about this at
least one hundred percent correct when you say this. The
first thing people talk.

Speaker 2 (01:55:25):
About is that, oh, you want to take away from
the kids. Absolutely not.

Speaker 5 (01:55:31):
I want them to get they deserve with the money
that colleges make to get paid, how they get paid important,
And what we're going through in transfer portal is far
different that you're transferm there. They're going to give you
in the portal, give you money to leave and go
to school. Is far different than name, image and likeness.
That ain't name image and likeness. Name image and likeness
is a company sees you, they want you to endorse

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their product, and they're going to pay you. And we're
paying far more on potential than production when it comes
to what we're getting from this. But I've said and
when you say, well, we got to be tougher on
the well the coaches got theirs. Oh, coaches could leave
it every they want. No, that's not true yet. And
you're also trying to compare. When if we compared an
eighteen year old basketball player, a sixteen year old high

(01:56:13):
school kid to Michael Jordan, we don't, okay, why Michael
Jordan's been down the road. It's the same thing here. Well,
this eighteen year old kid, he should get the same
as the coach. Well he's eighteen. He hadn't even peede
a drop in college sports. Yet the other guy's been
grinding in forty seven different cities with fifteen different teams,
and he's finally the head coach at forty eight and
you want to.

Speaker 1 (01:56:33):
Tell me that that kid deserves the exact same thing.
Pave the way.

Speaker 2 (01:56:37):
Okay, the kid's now getting paid.

Speaker 5 (01:56:39):
I'm all for it, But when we get into the
transfer portal, why is it going on during the tournament?
The NCA the grown ups always screw things up all
the time, which then permeates down to the kids. And
the kids are like, we get this, and then they
become heels at times too, whether they wanted to or not,
because they get pigeonholed. Now, there's some kids that are
just ass clowns, and there's some parents that are ass clowns,
But the adults in the NC two A room don't

(01:57:01):
get it. Simply, it's really easy to stop transfer portals
shut down during the NC two A tournament, whether you're
in it or not. And if we're going to pay
these kids, and not just on production but potential where
we are, I don't want to hear anybody else tell
me it's not hand to hand cash.

Speaker 1 (01:57:17):
It's absolutely what it is.

Speaker 5 (01:57:19):
I can give you a story about I know for
a factor university that had to keep a kid because
he threatened to transfer, and in order to do it,
they needed a whole bunch of money like mid seven
figures or should I say mid getting to seven figures
for this one, there's more than one, and make a
call up. You handle it, and guess where that kid

(01:57:40):
goes he stays. So that is that's hand in hand cash.
But it's legal now nobody, nobody's going to check you
on it.

Speaker 1 (01:57:46):
And I get it. So the rules say it.

Speaker 5 (01:57:48):
But if we're going to continue at this, we need
to regulate it somehow someway. But I can also tell
you this, you cannot if you're going to make them pros,
don't You got to make them real pros. That's a
way to make them real. Purgency in pro sports is
not as bad as this is. We have what almost
what fifteen hundred kids in the transfer portal with college
basketball already, the twelve hundred something like, I mean, the

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numbers are alarmed. I gave it's like a thousand plus
or whatever already and it's still going on. And if
you don't jump on it, oh, that he wasn't there,
so somebody else gave me an extra men because he
was focused on his current team, which you should be doing.
So it's not the teams that are out should be
able to go transferportal, No, because then your hoodwinking the
guys that are being punished for actually winning, so they

(01:58:33):
can't get into the portal either. So it should never
go on real quick. If you want to stop it now,
whether this is right or on, I've said it on
the show before, I'll say it again.

Speaker 2 (01:58:43):
We should be able to cut players.

Speaker 5 (01:58:44):
If we're going to do this and you're paying them
hand to hand cash three games in that five stars,
not living up to what is that? He's a pain?
Any ass on the team, we're cutting you. You want
to go to school here, fine, but you're paying you
don't want to play sports. If you want to transfer,
that's fine, your cut, have at it, but you're done.
I don't need to give you ANX. You just didn't
live up to what we thought.

Speaker 1 (01:59:01):
You're gone.

Speaker 5 (01:59:02):
Well you can't do that. The kid why but why not?
Because the second you don't pay him, if he's good,
he's leaving. I'm not saying everybody, but he's leaving. So
that's one. Two is you got to put a salary
cap on the nil the transfer port, you have to
put a salary cap on it. You absolutely have to.
And then the third layer of it is put a
price tag on the kid like you do. And getting

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back to it, these coaches just can't up and leave.
They got to buy out. So if you want a
good coach and it cost you fifteen million dollars, you
got to pay the university fifteen million to get the
chance to take him away. Do that with the player,
give him one transfer for free, and then after that,
if you want to go, you gotta be working towards graduation.
And there's a price tag on you, meaning, oh, you're
a five star guy that's labeled at five million. You

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want this guy quarterback is a freshman who left. He's
an All American but got beat out by the junior.
It cost you five million dollars to break the contract.
You want to control you. You want to see how
many teams are are going to do that?

Speaker 2 (01:59:59):
Not very much.

Speaker 5 (02:00:00):
So with that in mind, that's how you if you
if you're gonna play with the big boys, then we got.

Speaker 4 (02:00:05):
To treat him like big boys. Well, stability. I mean,
that's just more than anything, what people want, and that's
something that obviously they're trying to work towards. All Right,
coming up, if you couldn't love Cam Smith even more,
I'll give you a couple of reasons why you can
love him even more than you already did. That's next
right here on the Seawan Salisbury Show, kd.

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Speaker 4 (02:01:06):
In Utah, one twenty one to one ten in the
second round the Texas Children's Open on going over at
Memorial Park. Victor Perez of France the leader at the moment,
seven hunder par but Scotty Scheffler lurking. He's through four
and he is two back at five unders. So I
mean a chance to be able to get out there

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this week, and I think the weather's supposed to clear up.

Speaker 5 (02:01:28):
As the we it end goes along, it is maybe
a little bit tomorrow, but I think you're supposed to
get Thursday and I mean Saturday Sunday pretty cool, pretty
good weather, and it'll be a little bit of soft.
So I would imagine some pretty damn good scores out
there as well real quick, and we'll get back to that.
Just to give the we probably don't give the Texas
Tech Raiders enough love. M We kind of glossed over
it because you can't get to all of it. I'm

(02:01:48):
going to tell you something now, dude. They're, first of all,
as I've said, Arkansas's No. Ten seed playing in the SEC.

Speaker 10 (02:01:54):
No.

Speaker 5 (02:01:54):
Ten seed, and they had that game dead to rights,
sixteen point lead in the second half. I mean they
were running up and down to court like they were
like they owned it. And then Texas Tech, who is
the most under talked about three seed on the planet.
When we're talking with the final the Elite the Sweet sixteen,
when it's all set or that we'll get to the

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Elite eight, should I say as well, when this is
all done, after what's Sunday, I'm going to tell you
right now, brother, it will they the team that nobody's
gonna mention they're the oh, by the way team here,
and they shouldn't be. This is a really friggin good team.
You talk about desire, will, whatever word you want to

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put on it, to come back and win that game.
Because Arkansas, who's done that a million times this year,
been down, had a lead, gave it up, and either
staved it off or hung in there. It's been that's
been the calling card for Calipari's teams this year, and
Texas Tech's grind last night. I'm just going to tell
you anybody that thinks that that team's gonna laid down

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for I don't see anybody blowing them out. And we
talked about University Houston and rightfully so and and and
good teams across the country, how good Duke is and
how impressive Universe Alabama is and BYU has been impressive,
and they ran into some athleticism last night. You start
to look and say, man, Florida the team that nobody
you were talking old miss because Chris Beard more than

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we're talking Texas Tech his former team, right and rightfully,
and I know he's got them going. I'm going to
tell you, man, Texa Tech just doesn't play football. They
are and this has been like this for a minute now.
They are a dangerous team and they're one of those
teams that, while they're still seated high and there's a
lot of respect for them as a basketball program, they

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are among all these they're gonna get the least amount
of love and Old Miss will trump them with love
if they win this game against what Michigan State tonight
that because it's Chris Beard and matter of fact, people
will Mission Tech mentioned Texas Tech in the national scope.
Oh yeah, Chris Beard's X team instead of giving the
credit where blocks that grind in the second half by

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them to find a way to knock down shots and
finish and then take care of their business in extra
time was impressive. Texas Tech is a viable Final four team.
They really are, and probably need more love than the
rest of the country's given them. That We sure as
hell haven't given them enough love here and we should. Yeah,

(02:04:25):
I mean, Krug's found out once. I'll bet you Kevin
Sampson knows about them, and we would tell you how
good they are topping in that crew. They're pretty good.

Speaker 4 (02:04:32):
They were able to beat Arkansas last night in overtime,
an exciting game that went late in to the evening
gets the camp Smith topic here in just a second.
But Adrian Houston wants to weigh in on what we
were just talking about in the last segment.

Speaker 2 (02:04:46):
Adrian, what's going on?

Speaker 10 (02:04:48):
Morning Fellas Morning, Morning, Morning, Morning, Sean as normal.

Speaker 13 (02:04:52):
You are one hundred percent correct about this nil transferred portal.

Speaker 10 (02:04:57):
This is why I don't watch college sports anymore. I
just don't. Basketball is turning me off.

Speaker 1 (02:05:04):
Football is turned me off.

Speaker 2 (02:05:05):
L nil.

Speaker 10 (02:05:06):
I want money.

Speaker 7 (02:05:07):
I want money.

Speaker 13 (02:05:08):
Well, you know what you want money, Okay, come on over.
But before we get this money, you will be here
all four years. There will be no early draft. You
will be here all four years. You hit that transferred portal,
it completely cuts your contract for any other college and
you pay on your own.

Speaker 2 (02:05:30):
It's that simple.

Speaker 1 (02:05:31):
And like you said, put a cap on it. And
like you said, Texas Tech, somebody better.

Speaker 2 (02:05:37):
Wake up because it's just like the Rockets.

Speaker 1 (02:05:39):
All the Rockets.

Speaker 13 (02:05:40):
Yeah, their number two, blah blah blah blah blah. They
don't stand the Chans in these playoffs. They've been holding
number two all season except for the slip up. Somebody
better wake up. Or there will be an upset and
America remember as your food goes up, terrors mean everything
is supposed to go down. Have a good weekend, y'all

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hit him with it, y'all.

Speaker 5 (02:06:05):
Thanks Adrian. UH, appreciate you, my man. He uh he
loves his stuff and I love his passion.

Speaker 2 (02:06:12):
In the morning.

Speaker 5 (02:06:13):
I can just tell you that with that transfer portal,
I listen to one thing about it, as he mentioned, well,
you're not leaving for Forrest. They're there, but they're allowed
to leave after I go to the Pro. You've been
on campus three years. Yeah, And I get it, and
I know Adrian what you're saying. But at that point
in time, you go draft eligible, you're not transferre different school.

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You're going because you're gonna be the fifth pick of
the draft after your sophomore year, red shirt sophomore year,
your third year on campus boom.

Speaker 2 (02:06:38):
I get it, but and I also get the transfer.

Speaker 5 (02:06:42):
A guy struggling and wants to go play because he
didn't get the check or the team changed coaches, and
you're like, I came here for him, I'm gonna transfer
Joe Burrow happens, Well, it should be, and you should
get that transfer. That I'm okay with that, but in
a certain you can't. It can't just be wild West.
You can transfer any day you want once class classes start. Listen,
I'm telling you once classes. I don't know what the
rule is now, I'd have to dive deep here. But

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once class has started and you walked into a class
when I was playing, and even for years after that
year of eligibility you were, you were a trojan. So
if you're going to transfer now, you're already risked losing
that year of eligibility. So one year, I'll give you
one transfer, I understand, but it's got to be a
certain time of year, not during the n C two

(02:07:24):
A tournament, not during fall football season. You've already started
your seven games and you can't transfer now. If you
want to quit, have at it. If you want me
to cut you because you're not going to show up,
I can do that too if.

Speaker 2 (02:07:36):
They allow the rules.

Speaker 5 (02:07:37):
So for me, one transfer, but after that, so it's
not three and four and five transfers, I don't want
you coming to my school.

Speaker 1 (02:07:43):
I'm not taking you.

Speaker 5 (02:07:44):
If you've transferred four times, it tells me you're running
from competition because you ain't blown out your knee four times,
or you'd probably be done. You're also if you're chasing
money for the fourth time, don't knock on my door.
You're obviously not good enough to be on my program anyway,
and are going to stand pressure. I understand a transfer
or to I get it. And if you've graduated and

(02:08:05):
you're working towards a law degree or you're getting a
master's degree as a senior transfer with the two teams
in the National Championship, did I got no problem with that?
Will Howard and Riley Leonard, they've graduated, They're gonna get
beat out by somebody else.

Speaker 2 (02:08:20):
I get it.

Speaker 5 (02:08:21):
But this transfer to transfer to go get paid hand
they have a chansfer to transfer transfer, Rob Peter, you
pay Paul, I can cut you that.

Speaker 1 (02:08:28):
No, you can't do that.

Speaker 2 (02:08:29):
Oh, but you can leave on me.

Speaker 5 (02:08:30):
And if you put a number value on him like
you do a coach, coach can't leave unless you get
the buyout or it gets fired. So the players, it's
not like the players getting ripped off over this. You
get more latitude than the coach ever did. Can you
imagine a coach waking up and when I said, I'm
just leaving, dude, you can't. You're not allowed to leave
your under contract. If you leave, they owe us fifteen

(02:08:51):
million on a buyout. Well then I quit, no problem.
You're not getting paid from us, and you're still a
show call. You don't get the coach for four more years.

Speaker 1 (02:08:58):
So do what you want to do.

Speaker 2 (02:09:00):
Put that on the player.

Speaker 5 (02:09:01):
You can't just give them everything and not have some consequences,
because then you're teaching them a crappy ass life lesson.
And I know that every kid's not the same, but
if you're telling me three thousand kids in a football poll,
for ten thousand kids or nine thousand or four thousand
are in a portal, all of them are transferring because well,
they're getting paid millions.

Speaker 2 (02:09:20):
Bull.

Speaker 5 (02:09:21):
Secondly, matter of fact, a small percentage are Secondly, if
you're telling me all are transferred because they've been hurt
three times, they want an opportunity.

Speaker 2 (02:09:28):
Or that the coach left, it's bull.

Speaker 5 (02:09:29):
Most of them are transferred because they got their ass
beat out and they want to go somewhere else or
for more money, whatever small percentage that is.

Speaker 1 (02:09:37):
So you just don't get well.

Speaker 5 (02:09:38):
And when we say, well, they're just kids, no, you
get three you've accepted three million dollars and you're eighteen,
and you're you're you got a kid. At eighteen, you're
no longer a kid. You're a grown ass adult. So
if you want to play with the big boys money wise,
the consequences are the bio.

Speaker 2 (02:09:56):
Yeah you can.

Speaker 5 (02:09:56):
You want to transfer, no problem, but you're coming to Georgia.
You want to try my school? Oh we got to
pay a five million dollar buy out to get you?
Is it really worth the guy we got here that's.

Speaker 2 (02:10:05):
Sticking around one more year, that's going to compete.

Speaker 5 (02:10:08):
What we'll just take to him. You want to put
make me to commit. I can put a stop to
it in a hurry if you have the balls to
do it. That means the kids still get rewarded. The
coaches still get to coach the program that they're actually
coaching at, not a transfer portal program. Every time you
turn around and we have a little sanity, that's all
I'm asking common sense in sanity, it's not normal common

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sense to be able to leave whenever you want. I'm
talking about seconds after a game, transfer during a tournament,
when you're trying to focus on the kids you got,
and then you got to jump back in. So you
don't miss out in a high recruit that's wrong. And
the adults screwed this up, and now you got to
fix it, and it's tougher to fix it. What is
if to prepare and prevent is easier to repair and repent,

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And it's the same thing here, and now they're going
to spend all this time repenting. The kids don't deserve
one hundred percent of full go. That's part of the scholarship.
You earn to go get edge ducated and to go
play big time sports and have a blast to extend
your playing career. But they do deserve to get paid
because of what they're bringing in revenue wise. We just
got to do it different. And if you want the
money and you want to transfer four times, you better

(02:11:13):
have a team that wants to pay your buyout. That's
what I'd put on him. Well, Sean, you can't cut
a kid. What's about his future? I don't care.

Speaker 2 (02:11:20):
He knows the rules going in just like everybody else does.

Speaker 5 (02:11:23):
Eighteen, he wants to transfer four times, good luck getting
all those credit hours to graduate. I'm trying to keep
him so when he's forty, has a little bit of
an idea what real life's like. Sure, if you want
to transfer the first time, have had it second time,
you have to have a buyout. You can be cut
from a program if you're not living up to what
you're supposed to do academic, I can just cut you.

Speaker 2 (02:11:41):
You think those kids will oh no, no, my kid
can't do that.

Speaker 5 (02:11:44):
But the question you're going to ask the school when
you go into your first question is a parent with
the recruiter is how much money is my kid getting paid?
And then I'm going to come back with, well, there's
a buyout on him. It's five thousand, five million. So
if he does leave on his second year and it's
his second transfer, then the school's gonna have to pay buyout.
And oh, by the way, you better make sure your
kid shows up on time and in shape and academically
ready to play, because if in game six he doesn't

(02:12:05):
work out, I'm gonna cut his ass. How many think
parents would look at it, They'd run like a scalded dog,
A lot of them because they're afraid, Well I got
to my kid.

Speaker 2 (02:12:12):
Well, your kids have grown ass adult.

Speaker 4 (02:12:14):
Okay for the inaction that you threw out there, I
mean it kind of feels like it applies with the
rule that I have on the side of the refrigerator.
You're either coaching it or you're allowing it to happen.
It seems like the allowing it to happen is kind
of Prepure's the problem. Coaches that are buying in still
don't like it. You think they love having to do
this as much as Calipari. Calipari has been getting one

(02:12:37):
and done forever. Do you really think cal wants to
be coaching his Arkansas team and worried about, Oh.

Speaker 2 (02:12:44):
That recruit that's leaving, I need him.

Speaker 5 (02:12:47):
It just takes away from what you've done to get there,
because now you're trying to you're trying to manage two
things and lead two things, and.

Speaker 1 (02:12:54):
It's hard to do. To me, shut it off, like
is Tho's approach.

Speaker 2 (02:12:59):
I shut it off.

Speaker 5 (02:13:00):
And if I lose a kid and it affects me
next year, oh well, you know what I'm saying, And
no offense to these kids.

Speaker 2 (02:13:06):
Everybody's replaceable.

Speaker 5 (02:13:08):
Every single recruit out there is replaceable, just like every
single coach. Now some you'd say camp, but eventually they'll
go by the way, so somebody will come in and
do a good job.

Speaker 2 (02:13:16):
It's just that's that perspective.

Speaker 5 (02:13:18):
But if we're going to treat him like big boys,
I hate to say it to the seventeen eighteen year
old kids, it's big boy Tay. You want five million,
you better be prepared to live up to that money.
And if not, then I got to treat you like
a grown Assiduilt. This is we're in the working world.

Speaker 10 (02:13:30):
Now.

Speaker 2 (02:13:31):
That's another one for the Les Tripoli.

Speaker 4 (02:13:33):
Write that down, all right, So let's get back into
the astros here coming up because Cam Smith a couple
of different things he shared yesterday.

Speaker 2 (02:13:41):
It makes you love him even more. Coming up right here.
Sean Salisbury's show.

Speaker 1 (02:13:47):
The Jean Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 4 (02:13:52):
Portrays himself to be a fitness influencer that released a
video called his Morning Routine where he would use a
specific brand of bottle of water poured into a bucket
of ice, stick his face in it with tape over
his mouth, and then rub his face with a banana peel.
And he said that that was what he did every

(02:14:12):
single morning, and it started to kind of take off.
I saw Jock Peterson of the Rangers did it well,
was it? Kyle Tucker funny enough on social media? Walking
into the game yesterday. You know, the fit check, they
get the picture of you walking into the clubhouse, and
he's got the brand of water. Cam Smith also adding
to it yesterday, he likes to journal, and he was

(02:14:34):
talking about his morning journal.

Speaker 2 (02:14:36):
Yeah, and I wish I'd have started a journal when
I was like eight.

Speaker 4 (02:14:39):
Yeah, it's good to get the feelings out there, you know,
don't keep them, don't keep them bottled up. Well, he
was asked about it yesterday after the game and he said, oh, yeah,
you know what, it's my morning routine. And I knew
exactly what he was doing. And I went John Gruden
with my with my response on social media to it.
I said, hey, you know what, I like this kid.
He's a funny guy. He's got a great sense of humor.

(02:15:00):
I think he probably knows Spider through White Banana as well.
You know, hey, yeah, you got a future camp Smith.
I'm telling you. Man, So this has become a big thing.
I gotta pay more close attention to this.

Speaker 1 (02:15:14):
I was sad it's another one of them.

Speaker 4 (02:15:17):
I mean, you know, we've had numerous ones, the TikTok dances,
all of those different things. I mean, boy, you want
to talk about me sounded like a basic white guy.
Right now, I'm definitely doing that. But it's just it's
one that people are having fun with because on the surface,
he just looks so ridiculous and you're just like, come on, man,
this isn't your morning routine, like you know, it's it's
another somebody that's becoming viral, and I just appreciate that

(02:15:40):
people are kind of having fun with it. Like college
football social media accounts, they're they're having fun with it.
Teams are of just you know, hey, this is out there.
You know you do you want to do this too?

Speaker 2 (02:15:51):
Is it harmless? Oh yeah? Who cares? Yeah? Yeah? Fun?

Speaker 5 (02:15:55):
And then playing into it. It's kind of fun for him.
I'll have to. I'm gonna go look for it now
that you said it, because I have paid attention to it.
But I'll go check it out and see what they're doing.
But if it's all fun and harmless, you know, like
when people say eat tide pods that trend on social media,
that's not fun and harmless. That's stupid and there's a
lot of stupid people out there unfortunately that that. I
think that maybe tide pods cleared your system, but it

(02:16:16):
didn't so don't do tide pods youth, and that's not
the way you want to get stoned or high or
whatever it is. But with something like this, I'm all
for anything that's that that is just kind of a
fun little goofy thing that people buy into. I don't
have a problem with it.

Speaker 4 (02:16:28):
That's like me and you are both golf guys. Remember
there was that fad for a while of running into
people with your golf cart, like thinking that's funny, and
I'm like, it's not the newest one. That adds to
the dumb assory of that is you know the little
sand of it bottle that's on your golf cart. Yeah,
of flipping it up in the air to hit your
buddy with it. Well, those are heavy, especially when they're filled. Yeah,

(02:16:49):
my buddies and they still do it, dude.

Speaker 5 (02:16:52):
Is it a group And it's when you're getting ready
to play one of them will inevitably there's about twenty
of my buddies that they loosen up the car, the
bag where your cart is.

Speaker 2 (02:17:02):
They loosen up the thing.

Speaker 5 (02:17:03):
So when you're driving uphill or you get going fast
or make a turn, your golf clubs fall out and
land on the pavement or in the middle of the grass.
I've played with those guys one hundred times in the
last fifteen years, and at no point in time have
we gone eighteen holes without a half a dozen times.

(02:17:23):
And now you get to the point you gotta go
over and make sure your things secured because inevitably one
of your buddy's gonna get it and they'll be going
and all of a sudden your golf bag falls off,
and you know, clubs hit and if it's on pavement,
which has happened to me a couple of times, and
you still laugh because they're your buddies. It'll like, you know,
chip or scratch the golf the golf club, your four

(02:17:44):
iron comes back, say, dumb ass, they'll landed on concrete.

Speaker 2 (02:17:47):
Okay, you're laughing, but yeah, so not.

Speaker 5 (02:17:50):
But you can't stop them because if they do stop,
you drink one beer and it's like, oh, okay, now
time let's go get Sean, or let's go get Rick
or Doug and Boom pull their thing off.

Speaker 2 (02:17:59):
And you mentioned journal and it's just I digressed.

Speaker 5 (02:18:04):
But you remember the great Todd Christians Christians in the
broadcast under Raiders tight end Dude, I first time I
met him, he and I and Charlie Signer were doing
a college football game, and I'd heard that he was
organized and thorough and in the LDS church where he
went to school. By you, you encourage at a young
age to keep a journal, right book, a remembrance journal,

(02:18:25):
but journal where you write in it. I'm telling you, man,
I felt you want to talk about inept. I watched
that dude.

Speaker 2 (02:18:32):
Every meeting we'd go to, he'd have his book. And
I asked Todd.

Speaker 5 (02:18:36):
I said, Todd, what what are you doing that? He goes, Oh,
it's just my journal, He said, you want to see
and I and he showed me. And I'm telling you,
first of all, the penmanship of a you know, of
a of a female that has got great you know,
the one you're saying I'm talking about that's not me perfect?
And then and a page after page after page, and
I said, well, how many of these you guys? He goes,

(02:18:57):
I've been doing this since I was like a teenager.
And I said, see, you're telling me hundreds. And I said,
are they like this? Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (02:19:04):
That dude.

Speaker 5 (02:19:05):
That dude chronicled his life and anybody around him, his situation.

Speaker 2 (02:19:10):
If you want to know. I believe this, it's got
to be the case. But the way I came away
with that, if.

Speaker 5 (02:19:15):
You want to know what Todd Christian Christensen was like,
how he grew up, ever, what he was like as
a raider, what happened as a broadcaster, or all the
great things, if you want to know, somewhere Todd christians
has got forty eight books in his journal. And I
was jealous, as envious as could be. I'm like, that's discipline, man,
And I thought, you know how you go back and

(02:19:35):
say what happened that day again on March seventeenth, we
had a great show, or you know, you start thinking
about here, I'll show you that that's exactly right. And
I am of all I'm thought, I'm thinking, you know,
I'm not envious to that guy's money, I'd love to
have it, or this guy's this, but the ability to
discipline yourself to write every single day in that journal,
so you're leaving a legacy and something for kids or
grandkids or great grandkids behind to say, oh, when he

(02:19:57):
was sixteen, he did the same thing I did.

Speaker 4 (02:19:59):
I just think that it's cool and underrated with the
g glad you brought it up with the golf tricks.
You ever had the snake prank pulled on you?

Speaker 7 (02:20:06):
Never?

Speaker 2 (02:20:06):
But I see it all the time. Yeah, I had
pulled on me one.

Speaker 5 (02:20:09):
I'm probably not as I probably wouldn't been around him enough.
I mean, I understand if this rattler nobody likes him,
but I probably you know, sometimes I think those are
those are planned videos where a guy jumps around and
acts like screams like a ten year old girl. I
I sometimes think that they're they're scripted. But on the

(02:20:29):
golf course, sometimes you get the guys going. I don't
know how i'd respond with the snad probably stand still
as opposed to jump around. That probably be my first
Like okay, now what am I gonna do? You guys
gonna shoo him? Any you guys get carry a.

Speaker 2 (02:20:41):
Gun with you or what are you going to do?

Speaker 8 (02:20:43):
So?

Speaker 2 (02:20:43):
Yeah, use the driver? There you go, There you go,
there you go.

Speaker 5 (02:20:46):
Sometimes they uh, but I'm when I see like I
have you ever seen the one where it's like I
think it's in like uh like uh someplace in India.
I think it was India. A guy's in a pit
and it the true you know how they train cobra's.
You know, they're they're going to the cobra pit right there. Now,
that'll give you the that'll give you the chills a

(02:21:07):
little bit. And you're like, oh no, he's down in
there the pit with a stick and there's got to
be five hundred of them in there, and not a
one of them's bugging him, and he's training and hitting
him on the side, training, And I'm like, in order
to get to that point, you had to actually train
to get to that point. So at some point time
you walked in there on your first or second time

(02:21:28):
and they said, go in there, here's how you got
to deal with these guys.

Speaker 2 (02:21:32):
And I'm thinking, who the hell wants that gig?

Speaker 4 (02:21:35):
It's all fine and good, Sean, but it only takes
one of them to just finally say, you know, what
the hell with this. I've been through the airport today. Yeah, yeah,
that's exactly right. TSA pissed me off. I'm biting you, right,
But I just think at some point in time you
had to actually.

Speaker 5 (02:21:49):
It's like when when we talk about these these motocross guys,
the stud guys who go and do triple flips and
land right at some point in time, or motocross or bikers.
At some point time, you had to practice that. And
I know they practice it on like a high jump
pit and do all that, But at one point in time, you.

Speaker 2 (02:22:05):
Had to go out there. So I'm gonna do this
on the track.

Speaker 1 (02:22:07):
Yeah, you had.

Speaker 5 (02:22:08):
You had to put it into reality standing in front
of a bunch of cobras in my idea reality. But yeah,
the golf, the golf, I mean, the snake trick hasn't
been worked on me yet. So now that we've said
it and put it out there into the atmosphere, I'm
sure it will.

Speaker 4 (02:22:21):
Well I'm not trying to speak things into existence here,
but if it does, as long as it's fake, I'm good.

Speaker 9 (02:22:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:22:25):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (02:22:26):
Just keep your just keep your head about you, right,
and then camp Smith also bring in the three dozen
warm glazed donuts to the guys yesterday from a place
that we know and love around.

Speaker 5 (02:22:34):
That's what a rookie supposed to do. Yeah, that's his
friggin job. You think coach loves donuts, I would think
most people love it. A hold like a donut. You're
not human, oh man, love donuts?

Speaker 10 (02:22:44):
You know?

Speaker 2 (02:22:45):
We have we have a mire in the studio during
the quarterback camp. Man, you know the great prospects, they
know exactly the one I like you. Gotta love good donuts. Man,
what's your favorite donut? Oh?

Speaker 1 (02:22:56):
Warm glaze, warm glaze.

Speaker 5 (02:22:57):
Yeah, so you're basic with ice cold glass of milk,
chocolate milk, chocolate milk, chocolate milk.

Speaker 2 (02:23:02):
That's what I grew up on.

Speaker 4 (02:23:03):
See, chocolate milk with donuts. Huh yeah, warm glazed donut.
Maybe a sausage in cheese COLATCHI let's go give me
a maple bar. Maple bar, Yeah yeah, chocolate iced every
once in a while.

Speaker 2 (02:23:13):
Good to go.

Speaker 5 (02:23:13):
You know there's no bad donuts out there, like you said,
even the plane cake work once in a while.

Speaker 2 (02:23:17):
Yeah, yeah, right right with the coffee, Yeah absolutely, John,
Larry Brandon.

Speaker 4 (02:23:21):
See you guys right there. We'll continue the astros conversation.
Any of you want to get in on the koog's,
we can do that as we continue here on the
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The Shawn Salisbury Show continues, Well, let's set out to
the northwest side. John wants away in here on Sports
Talk seven ninety John, what's up?

Speaker 9 (02:25:33):
Hey?

Speaker 6 (02:25:33):
Sell on Dan? How you doing this?

Speaker 2 (02:25:35):
Morning, very well, how are you.

Speaker 14 (02:25:38):
I'm good man.

Speaker 10 (02:25:39):
Listen.

Speaker 14 (02:25:39):
Uh you know I bring this up because you know
it last season too. I've mentioned it to you all
maybe about a week ago. I said, you know that
we're going to have to keep our eye on Hater
because Hater last season. What's not good? Fifty fifty maybe
a bray?

Speaker 2 (02:25:55):
You a bray.

Speaker 14 (02:25:56):
You've been shaky to the last couple of teason. But
then he's a middle releaef. Hopefully he can get it
together and hopefully Hated can get together. But Hater did
this last season, bro, same thing he's doing now. I
hope he get it together and do bet and what
he's doing, I'll listen to you.

Speaker 2 (02:26:11):
Come here.

Speaker 14 (02:26:12):
I have a good day.

Speaker 2 (02:26:13):
I appreciate the call.

Speaker 4 (02:26:14):
I'm gonna push back a little bit on Hater because
the VLO was there yesterday.

Speaker 1 (02:26:18):
Missed with some pitches.

Speaker 4 (02:26:19):
Yes, he didn't get a ton of swing and miss,
but it's also what's the job of a closer sean
to close it, win the game correct, to save it?
And and what did he do save it? Okay, now
it wasn't, but he saved it. Get I get what
people want out of the closer's role. We won our
closer every single time three up, three down, you struck
him out. They had no shot. But sometimes they're gonna

(02:26:42):
be a little hairy. It's the first one of many
that you're hoping he's going to get this season. Now, John,
where I will agree with you is this Astros team's
dead in the water. Both of those guys are shaky
this season. They have to be the rule, not the
exception in the back end. And yes, I mean, Bray,
you a couple of quick outs yesterday. Then he walks
the bases loaded, and you're like, oh, this is starting
to look like the beginning of last year where the

(02:27:03):
wheels kind of came off in certain situations.

Speaker 5 (02:27:05):
See, I'm more concerned with him walking the bases loaded
than I am. A struggle and finding your way through
it a hater situation that that's something that Bray has
got to stay away from.

Speaker 4 (02:27:15):
He does, and it's been something that he did struggle
with at the beginning part of his career, but now
I mean trying away.

Speaker 2 (02:27:21):
It did, and then he was one of the best
set up men in all of base He was still
really good. Last year. He was and he went through
some stints but still did see we take. Here's what
it is.

Speaker 5 (02:27:29):
One save equals one save, one blown save to others,
or one blown situation or one bad performance makes it
feel like it was ten. And especially when they are
associated with walks. I can tell you what rarely ends
well leading now and not in his case, but in
any case, leading off an inning with a walk.

Speaker 2 (02:27:50):
Walks are the false startup base It is it is.

Speaker 5 (02:27:53):
It somehow someway. It bogs you down and you get
chased down and get your ass handed to you. It
usually work well for you starter or back end, bullpen
guy or anybody for that matter, to not only walk
the bases loaded. But when you're walking people on those
are unforced airs, right, they just are. Unless you had

(02:28:14):
a twelve pitch at bat and the guy's fighting off
and Tony Gwinn's at the plate and he's at a
great hitter, you're gonna get the l sometimes. But yeah,
that can't happen. It's one game, and I'm not worried
about Hater or Brave. That should be a strength of
this team. But I do understand why John's watching closely
with that.

Speaker 13 (02:28:30):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (02:28:31):
I get it.

Speaker 5 (02:28:32):
But they're fortunate that Fromber got him to seven and
they were able to be clutched and play pretty good
defense yesterday is and that they were able to get
out of some tough situations, because when you walk the
base is loaded.

Speaker 2 (02:28:43):
Usually you end up being on the wrong side of
that performance.

Speaker 4 (02:28:48):
This guy's chance at a status change is here. We'll
talk about that, also get into a little bit of
the Cougar's here on the Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk
seven to ninety.

Speaker 1 (02:28:58):
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Speaker 2 (02:29:16):
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Speaker 4 (02:29:34):
Uh seven one three, two one two five seven ninety
The legend We head out to Stafford Larry.

Speaker 2 (02:29:40):
What's up, buddy, what's going on?

Speaker 6 (02:29:42):
Old bulldog?

Speaker 2 (02:29:43):
How you doing?

Speaker 8 (02:29:44):
You know?

Speaker 10 (02:29:45):
It.

Speaker 7 (02:29:45):
You know it.

Speaker 1 (02:29:45):
I still got sagin in my blood.

Speaker 2 (02:29:47):
You know that I already know. Dog, hey son, I
need a minute, man.

Speaker 6 (02:29:52):
You know, I was trying to let you and old
bulldogs settle in, have to be lema left man. So
I was just sitting back and just uh, just for
accident and enjoying this show. Man. And I didn't know
one of the changes y'all was gonna make was triple.
He was gonna tell me to be concise on.

Speaker 13 (02:30:07):
My damn house triple. He I don't know.

Speaker 6 (02:30:10):
I thought me and you had it built a I
was standing relationships. Larry.

Speaker 5 (02:30:14):
What you're trying to tell him is that there ain't
no restrictions on your transfer portal.

Speaker 4 (02:30:18):
You're talking here today, right man, he's the offensive line.
He's the offensive line. You got a hell of a
bull rush, you.

Speaker 1 (02:30:24):
Know that telling the ani Eli's nuts, Larry.

Speaker 6 (02:30:28):
Let's go right, my god, triple he got to know better, man,
because he no I cut for him. How he come
back with all that soul music and everything, and anybody
that know me, No, I don't know what the hell
I'm gonna talk about until I get on here and
start finding it off, which takes me to a couple
of my points. Son, One thing I can guarantee you
is you ain't gonna see no black folks and no

(02:30:48):
pit with no colts trying to train no damn.

Speaker 2 (02:30:52):
Or this white dude either. Trust me, I don't.

Speaker 6 (02:30:56):
Give a damn how much training you give him. You
ain't finna find no brothers doing no dumb ass stuff
like that. Man, We smarter than that. Shun the bite
and they'll put your ass in that ground if you
don't know what to do with him. That's why we
stay away from him. Next thing, Look, man, I'm a
big fan of the astros man, and I'm just glad
that they came out and did exactly what was right

(02:31:18):
by bringing up Cam Smith. Because here's the thing. Playing
all these games with numbers and talent and trying to
have an extra year and all that other stuff, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (02:31:27):
And dandy, but hopefully the whole goal is to win.

Speaker 6 (02:31:30):
And if you got dudes that can help you win,
that can play those kind of positions like Cam did
last night, you let this dude grow up in the
major's man and go out there and be a successful
because the sac records say he gonna be able to
produce and I heard my boy looking here, John talking.

Speaker 2 (02:31:46):
About old hater.

Speaker 6 (02:31:47):
John ain't wrong, Son. We saw Hayter do this kind
of stuff last year exactly. And when he goes out
there and throws thirty five pitches last night, he was
ahead on most of those towns. But here's the thing,
he wasn't able to put a COONa away. And then
now all of a sudden, everybody's sitting over there in
Mini Made, I mean Dacon or whatever the hell is called.

(02:32:08):
They sitting over there stressing about it because we wanted
Framble to get that first win, last thing before I
let you go.

Speaker 7 (02:32:14):
Son, Is this.

Speaker 6 (02:32:16):
My owner, Calvin? Now send me an email yesterday talking
about that they are all laying on.

Speaker 2 (02:32:21):
The refurbishing of NRG Stadium.

Speaker 6 (02:32:24):
And I get it, and I understand it, because NRG
Stadium is still, as far as I'm concerned, the mothership.

Speaker 2 (02:32:31):
But I'm a realist and I understand how the game
is played.

Speaker 6 (02:32:35):
And I know my dog Call and Hannah want their
own thing over there, and it just ain't gonna be
over there on Kirby Man. They want to put it
out somewhere where your boy from Stafford might have to move.
And move next door, so you don't have to travel
that far to go see his boys play football. Cal
I see your dog. Keep wearing that painting ring, you
might just get what you want. In the eighth in
our how appreciate.

Speaker 2 (02:32:58):
Is one of a kind, which is a good thing.
He's one of the best edge rushers in the game.

Speaker 5 (02:33:02):
Freaking I freaking love him, man. That guy is passion
And one thing I even love more you can disagree
with Larry you can, is that he doesn't back off
his opinion. And when you're easy to talk somebody out
of their passion, they're really not that passionate. You don't
want to Larry's. Larry's love for this city in sports

(02:33:22):
is is uh is pretty. You can you can feel
it all the time. So good on him, man, I
love it. Hey, you know what he sent you? A
warning dog fire, fire and shots. Maybe you guys, a
minute to Larry, all right, yeah, exactly passion. But a
minute to Larry's like four and a half to somebody
else or four and a half a minute to somebody else.

(02:33:43):
It's four and a half for Larry because when he
gets on that roll, that passion, you can't.

Speaker 4 (02:33:47):
Stop see and it's gonna start getting in Triple's head
right here, because we're gonna start getting false starts. We're
gonna get illegal ships, we're gonna get even a holding
or two. Triple his poisons. It gets under pressure, but
I think so, I think so he gets it out
of his system. He's all good. He goes from there.
So that's why he's just bust toss us.

Speaker 2 (02:34:04):
Did he go with all? I just told him what
you guys told me. Was that what he said? Yeah?
He pretty much you know like I said, So he
did with a good twitter. He's exactly right. So this
is one one sound there you go, Yeah, there you
go hard.

Speaker 7 (02:34:19):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (02:34:20):
See we're in this love together. He got the lingo
there there he goes. See Larry, Larry, We're never gonna
mistake for the fact that you're coming on here for
one minute. Brother, So you have adhim Man. You're a dog.

Speaker 2 (02:34:31):
So there you go, and you're a glue guy. He's
right about that's what you are.

Speaker 5 (02:34:34):
Brothers are smart and no brother on the planet and
no brother I know standing around twenty five garden snakes
that don't hurt anybody, Okay, they just snakes, and the
brothers don't and Larry's right, they're not dumb enough to
climb down into a pit.

Speaker 4 (02:34:50):
Going to the Dixie Chicken. You know they have him
in the class enclosure in College station. Yeah yeah, I
mean even just being around it, I'm like, all right.

Speaker 2 (02:34:58):
You're thinking, what that glass breaks? The glass breaks?

Speaker 4 (02:35:01):
I mean, I just I don't even want my mind
to get there real quick, Brandon, what's up, buddy? Doing
it good?

Speaker 13 (02:35:07):
I'm playing my game.

Speaker 15 (02:35:08):
I got it.

Speaker 2 (02:35:10):
You win in.

Speaker 15 (02:35:13):
I went with the astro.

Speaker 2 (02:35:14):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (02:35:15):
See the winning continues.

Speaker 2 (02:35:16):
Buddy. You said you're going this weekend, right, I am
all right? You excited? Yep?

Speaker 15 (02:35:24):
Hey, what are you guys doing to be at Uh?

Speaker 4 (02:35:26):
Gonna be at home. I think Sean's gonna be there too.
Relaxing weekend, man, we'll still be watching the Strows. More importantly,
probably out the golf tournament tomorrow. There you go, throughout.

Speaker 2 (02:35:35):
The whole thing, and listening to Roberts and Steve on
the iHeartRadio.

Speaker 15 (02:35:38):
App Yep, there you go, buddy, would you tell Robert
and Steve I'm gonna be at the game. I'm gonna
be looking for them.

Speaker 2 (02:35:49):
There you go. Let's hope they're listening. Robert Steve Brandon's
gonna be keep an.

Speaker 4 (02:35:54):
Eye out for him. There you go, Sparky, We got you, buddy.
Appreciate it, man, Have a good weekend.

Speaker 2 (02:35:58):
Have a good one, buddy, all right you buddy man,
fun time today. I enjoyed it every day. This doesn't work.

Speaker 4 (02:36:06):
This is you know, the final, the final pitch in
batting practice. You want to barrow one up. We barrowed
this one up to dah. I feel good about heading
into the weekend.

Speaker 5 (02:36:13):
Go on, coach Sampson, get this thing done and then
we'll start focusing on the next one in the astros.
Good starting, cam Smith, Congratulations to you for sure. It's
a nice start for a young man who looks like
he's got a bright future. And from ber you deserve
more credit. Nobody eats more innings than you do. And
and uh, it wasn't as overly pretty because they didn't
score twelve runs and it got close. But it's a

(02:36:34):
good start. I'll take a win anytime. I like ugly
wins for sure. Hey, they're better than the pretty losses.
There is no there is no such thing as the
other thing. All right, Matt Tomas show with Ross. They're
coming up next. He's shown Weekend as well.

Speaker 2 (02:36:45):
Buddy well Man.

Speaker 4 (02:36:46):
He's Sean tripole E, Emmanuel Elmore. I'm Dan Matthews. We'll
talk to you in sixty eight hours right here Sports
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