3-22-25 UW BASKETBALL VS BYU LOCAL POSTGAME SHOW

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome into the J and K Security Solutions Basketball postgame show.
I'm your host Dave Gasper, joined by Nick Brucewitz. Heartbreak,
heartbreak for the Wisconsin Badgers as they fall in the
round of thirty two to the six seed BYU Cougars
ninety one to eighty nine. We invite you, We invite

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you to join the conversation with us on the hotline
six oh eight three two one thirteen ten and get
your reaction to this game and this Badger season as
it comes to an end. They gave themselves a shot
at the end, a furious, miraculous comeback in the final
few minutes as they look to be left for dead

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numerous times, and it was orchestrated almost entirely by John
Toanjay thirty seven points for the second team All American
in his final game as a Badger. The ball was
in his hands for the final shot, as it should
have been, but it came up just short, and the
Badgers came up just short of the Sweet sixteen yet again.

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And Nick, they still haven't made it to the second
weekend since twenty seventeen.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, I know that's going to be the prevailing storyline
here and in terms of matchups, this is a hell
of a basketball team that they faced tonight. BYU comes
into today's matchup with the Badgers the same amount of
losses on the season in a very competitive Big twelve conference,
but obviously not to Big Ten. And they proved why
they're here and why they're a team to look out

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for on a given night. They scored a ton of points,
and they pushed the pace, and they were the more
comfortable team with it. Naturally to open the game, the
Badgers played a high pace, they played pretty quick. That's
what this season kind of was all about for us.
When we consider what the Badgers were offensively, it was
a lot of movement, and it was a ton of threes,
and it was more shots per game. But BYU was

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another level and the Badgers simply didn't have what it
took early in this game, all throughout the first half
and greatly into the second half to kind of find
a game plan that's gonna work, and frankly, maybe they
never did. Taj just stepped up to make it close.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, I mean, the Tanja Drews just kind of took
over this game, and there were just one too many
mistakes really, as they get to those comeback and they
missed by and they lose by two points. You look
at six missed free throws. You look at the misfired
three at the end of the first half ends up,
or the misfired shot from Stephen Krowell with twelve seconds

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to go, and then it turns into a three pointer
on the other end.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Right before the half for BYU.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Numerous times in this game where it's like Wisconsin puts
up a shot, they miss it, an in transition on
the other end, or whatever it is, BYU puts up
a three, they make it, and it goes from it's
a five to six point swing every single time. It
happened numerous times throughout the game where it's like, Okay,
now you have a chance to get this within five,
get it within six, and next thing you know, well,

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now you're back down ten again instead, and it just
it happened so many times. Wisconsin finally able to break
through that a little bit, get it closer, but just
not quite close enough again, Join us please on the
hotline six eight, three, two, one, thirteen ten. That's where
Mike and Middleton is. Mike, what's your reaction after this
tough loss? Here for the Badgers.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
Yeah, hearts blanking is a good description. I know, Pat
from Waukeshaw normally only calls in after victory. He doesn't
want to remind everybody of his great prediction right before
the Big Ten Tournament that Marcus Ilver would have a
moment in one of the tournament games in the Big
Ten Tournament or the NCAA Tournament. After Pat said that
Marcus Ilver scored three points the rest of the season
and they basically didn't play. So I just want want

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to kind of remind that that might be the worst
prediction of all time.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
Let's not talk of Pat, but I agree, tough break
for Pat.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Yeah, but going back, I mean, John Tom Jay was
amazing and I'm really glad that he started tough this game.
But anybody will watched that game, I'm glad. I'm glad
doers around the country got to see what a great
player he was. He was definitely the most impact transfer
in any program across the country, one of the biggest

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transfer surprises in this portal era. And that's really I mean,
we hit the jackpot this year. I mean, think about it.
If we didn't have time Jay, I don't think this
team finishes five hundred in the Big ten, and they
might not even make the Big Dance.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
If I turn it around to you, I just want
to ask about confidence, because the Badgers have done a
hell of a job in terms of portal editions over
the last couple of years. So if there's something to
kind of take from this season, it's that last year
Aj Store. I know, with all the warts and everything,
he's a tough guy to love, but in reality it
was a hell of a fine This year they do
it again with Tanjay. I mean, I've got a great
amount of confidence that the Badgers have some sort of

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recipe in terms of the transfer portal.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
I hope. So, I mean, yes, you make a very
good point about Store. He had a rough year with Kansas,
although he played very well in their final game of
the lost Arkansas. But you know you hit it twice
now you're I mean, I mean, we got really lucky
getting that guy that came off an injury to do
what did I mean? This literally came out of nowhere.
He was ranked I've forgotten a portal where he was ranked.

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It was in the triple digits. Yeah, so for people
coming in nobody, I mean I read a review before
the season started that somebody reposted before the season. They
didn't even mention John Kanjay's addition to the team. I mean,
that's how inconsequential people thought that could.

Speaker 6 (05:21):
Be for the team.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
Looking ahead. One, if you notice tonight, one thing. And
if you noticed tonight and in the Big Ten tournament
and the two tournament games the NCAA, Nolan Winter since
the Northwestern game has been invisible. That's a bad sign.
He barely played in the second half tonight, and then
when they put him at the end of the game,
what happened. They drove right into him. He gave up

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a follow and gave up free throws. I'm not picking
on him because of that, but Nolan Winter and black
John Blackwell have to be the stars next year, assuming
they come back. I'm not assuming anybody's gonna come back
in this program anymore. After Chuck he left and after scoreline,
you know what I mean, that's yeah, yeah, you can't
get you can't get excited for next year. I mean,

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you're losing your best player. I mean, you got one
year of time Jays, he's now gone. You're losing all
these other seniors and now you're banking on Blackwell and
you're banking on Winter. But that's if they're back, and
hopefully they are back. I would think hopefully Amos is back.
Those are the three guys, the building blocks you have
to have, and really none of the other really young

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you know Guards that they had Robuston or Hunter showed
anything this year. You know that they didn't get to
play very much because of the team being senior and
junior dominated. But I see nothing at the Guards spot
right now on the team. They get excited about the
good news, like said, they could get a transfer right Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
The the key mic is is could and right now
because transportal does open on Monday. And appreciate the call, Mike,
uh And yeah, a lot of passionate and a lot
is going to change with this roster. And he's right
where you kind of don't know who is going to
be coming back next year. I mean, you hope Blackwell
comes back. Nolan Winter did have a pretty rough game today,

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just six points. Rough offensively, rough defensively for Nolan Winter.
Tough matchup, right, Dave.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
I mean you're talking about two seven footers with him
and Crowell in a traditional big ten pace game. It
works in spurts, but in reality they weren't going to
be able to run with him with two seven footers
out to date.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Right, But still just kind of talking about development too
for Nolan Winter. I mean you hope he takes another
big step forward next year. Yeah, you got free Tag
as well. Jack Janicki stepped up. No one expected anything
of Jack Janicky this year. You know, he stepped up
to a pretty big role. He's maybe at this point
I would pencil him in as a starter h for

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next year in the guard spot. But again pencil because
you got the transferportally, got a whole bunch of stuff
that can happen. The Badgers have six seniors on this team. Uh,
so they're gonna have a lot of open spots. They're
gonna be They've got a recruiting class coming in.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
But you got transfers that can be coming in as well.
And you got guys who are on the team this
year that again didn't play that much. Like you mentioned
Nick Daniel free Tag. You got Cameron Hunter as well,
who could take a step forward. You got get a
lot of young guys in there. Uh, And you have
to remake the roster every single year and I we
got another caller. Is that what you said? Casey?

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Oh okay, well that is uh, that's good.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
But yeah, you have to kind of re recruit your
roster every single year. As we got Ron and Madison
on the hot line six o eight three two one
thirteen ten, Ron, what are your thoughts after this Badger's
lost here today?

Speaker 7 (08:46):
But the last thirty seconds of the first half that
was costly Well wait a week and uh the miss
free throws. Wait, I thought John was gonna take a
step back three when he had the ball. No body
had a shot there and he chose.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
But yeah, I mean that that's a tough part, Ron,
and thanks for the call. It's that that last shot.
I mean, it all comes down to him. We we
can look at all these other moments in this game,
and there were a lot of them where Wisconsin if
they had just done this differently, you know, the final
thirty seconds of the first half, if you know they
make some of their free throws. I mean there were

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a bunch of bunch of free throws. They missed a
bunch of one and one opportunities. They missed the front
end of could have had two points, ended up with
zero and Ultimately all of them cast him in the game,
but it almost didn't matter.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
It all came down to that.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Last shot and John Tanjay's shot fell just a little
bit short. We'll get into more reaction from the hotline
six eight, three to one, thirteen to ten. On the
other side, we'll get into more reaction from this game,
what happened, where.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
It went wrong, and where we are now with this
Badgers team.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Plus some fun Dave, Yes, there are some fun facts
out of this that's all coming up. On the other side,
you're listening to the JANK Security Solutions Basketball postgame Show.

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Welcome back to the Jank Security Solutions Basketball postgame Show.
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Dave Gasper here along with Nick Brucewitz, breaking down this
heartbreaking Badger's loss to BYU ninety one eighty nine in

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the second round of the NCAA Tournament. Joined the conversation
with us on the hotline six eight three two one
thirteen ten and uh Nick The points in this game
where Wisconsin could have gotten themselves back in it or
things could have changed, especially when it gets down to
a two point game.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
At the end. It's numerous.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
I mean, you can find so many opportunities in the
first half, in the second half where Wisconsin they got
good looks, couldn't hit a shot. Then on the other
side BYU goes down hits a three, and it's just
every time Wisconsin seemed to get close, BYU had an
answer and Wisconsin couldn't get a stop on the other end.

Speaker 5 (11:26):
Yeah, it felt like that was exactly what happened.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
As you've highlighted.

Speaker 5 (11:29):
The Badgers simply.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Just couldn't string together enough positive both ends of the
court possessions. Right, they would get a great offensive possession
and they wouldn't be able to stop the d on defense,
and then they would get a great defensive possession, which
was rare today but an occasional stop.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
And it felt like, gosh, you just can't capitalize.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
On the other end, or they would turn it over,
or they would take a quick shot and miss and
it would get rebounded by the other team. And you know,
today it was, you know, pretty obvious the value of
having someone who's twenty six years old. You know, trevit
Nell did not back down from the pressure. He made
four threes today. You know, this guy's born in nineteen
ninety eight. I'm not gonna him. I'm not gonna make
this comment much more. But the reality is David, I mean,

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he's two years older than me. I graduated college two
years ago. I mean he was in college. It's a
discrepancy of four years. He should have been done nearly
four years ago. So the reality is this. I mean, hey, credit,
where credits? Dude, Trevin Nelly, you made a lot of
big shots today. He made some threes down the stretch
of the second half of Felic to Badgers two times here,
as I've highlighted, when the Badger's cut it to a

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nine point lead with the back to back free throws,
it was seventy two to sixty three. Nell comes down
the court with a three. Then they cut it to
single digits again with tanj two seventy five sixty eight.
Nell comes down the court, hits a three, right.

Speaker 5 (12:44):
So it's just like.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Gosh, every time Felic to Badgers were gonna start something
go on a run, Nell's there to snap it right.
So it was a four point run for the Badgers,
Nell three five point run for the Badger's.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
Nell three.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
It's just a tough, tough pill to swallow for Badger's
fits because they don't score eighty nine points like that
doesn't happen. If I told you they were gonna score
eighty nine points in a March Madness game leading into
this season, you would have said, geez, that's probably the
first round matchup. No.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Not. They got more in this one than their first
round matchup against Montana.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
I mean, it's the defense just wasn't.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Quite there where it's been. I mean, giving up ninety
one points. It's hard to win many games when given
up ninety one points. And yeah, Nell always seemed to
be the guy with the answers, and then Stuart had
an answer there with a three. When Wisconsin it's like, okay,
they're down by six, sixty to fifty four. They got
a chance to hit a three, cut it down to
one possession game. They miss Stuart on the other end,

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it hits a three, and next thing you know, it's
a nine point game. So you go from a one
possession game to a three possession game just like that.
It was like that all night, and that's why when
we got down to the end, Wisconsin just wasn't quite
able to get over the hump because the hole was
was too big that they dug it was. It was
a little bit of too little, too late for this

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Badgers team to get themselves back in there. Uh And
and also kind of another thing that we've talked about
a number of times with this team throughout the season,
the depth of this team, it was nowhere to be
found today. The Badgers got three bench points in this
game from Carter Gilmour with an and one with less

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than two minutes to go. They had nothing from the
bench all game. Kamario McGee couldn't find couldn't find him
to score anything. Jack Janicky Xavier amis nothing scoring wise
from any of them. It's it was one of the
strengths of the team heading into this It's why they
could win these March Madness games. And then when we
get into this game, they the depth wasn't there.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
No doubt about it. And we've talked about Nolan Winter
so far. But you know, Big Steve doesn't score in
the second half. Steve came out of the gates shooting
really well, kind of the only offense for Wisconsin before
time Jay started to kick it into gear. Blackwell had
a great game, and you know, I'm praying man he's
back next year.

Speaker 5 (15:05):
I feel pretty confident he will be.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Uh, they are going to have to throw the bag
at him.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
But I'm six roster, So how much money they're gonna
get back now, we'll see.

Speaker 5 (15:14):
And you know it did.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
It just didn't really materialize in the way and the
depth was challenged down the stretch this year. Man, our
conversations weren't necessarily centered around depth scoring right you go
season averages and Kamar mcgahd a pretty good year, But
the reality was their value was in a lot of
different ways. And Gilmore proved that he was worth the
squeeze again tonight in terms of his defensive intensity and

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his ability to kind of guard right Winter's off the
floor because he wasn't a good matchup and Gilmore did
a great job. There's there's no john Ton Jay resurgence
in this game without some of the other outputs. But
your spot on three bench points is not going to
win you many games in March if any, and the
Batcher's starting lineup didn't do enough for him outside of
tan Jy and Blackwell. Today, in my opinion, Klusman had

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a couple of big threes. I tweeted about it, saying,
you know, it brought a tear to my eye in
the first half nearly right, just Klusbet's had such a
down year. It's tough to watch him go out the
way that he did in terms of shooting percentages. They'll
preach about his value as a leader and as a
facilitator and as a defensive player as well. But you know,
to make two threes today the way that he did,

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couple of high intensity buckets, you know, it was nice
to see. I would have liked to have kind of
seen that magic not wear off at the end that
final shot. We can go round and round about it,
but our first caller was spot on right. You thought
he would take that first three that looked open to
get them. Maybe a second shot, but no doubt about it.

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You know, people are saying all over social media right now,
could Greg Gard draw up a worst player?

Speaker 5 (16:43):
Did he even draw up a play? The play was
exactly what it.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Ended up being.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
John tij with a ball in his hands, taking it
down to the bucket.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
He was probably clear to take any shot he wanted.
He had done a great job getting down to the
free throw line.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah, that's that's the play. I mean, especially with what
he was doing down the wretch. John Tonjay just taking
over twenty six points in the second half. Give john
Tonjay the ball and let him figure it out. I mean,
john Tonjay is six year senior. He knows what he's
doing with the basketball. Just give it to him. Let
him find the shot. He's been creating his own shot

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and being able to make it work all night long.
Give it to him and see what he does with it.
Put the ball in your playmaker's hands. Let him make
a play. And john Tonjay, he I mean, he did
his best, okay, and you put up a shot as
best as he could in the position that he was.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
In, and it didn't work.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
And that's kind of part of the madness of March,
where it's like you get right there and you know,
sometimes the shot goes in, sometimes it doesn't. And this
time it didn't, and Wisconsin gets eliminated because of it.
And there's, like I was saying, there's numerous points in
this game where things could have gone a little bit differently.

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The Badgers just hit one extra shot at any other point,
or they do kind of more around their normal with
free throws, because free throws were a problem in this game.
They missed six of them. They missed the opportunity probably
for at least ten of them because there were a
lot of one and ones that they missed the front
end of that caused so many problems in this game. Meanwhile,
BYU fifteen of sixteen at the free throw line, they

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didn't miss They only missed the one time. I mean
it was they were lights out from the free throw line.
They got their opportunities to get extra points and they
made them. They took advantage. And that's where the difference
here ends up being made. And it's tough. It's part
of why we love sports, it's part of why we
hate sports, just kind of how things end up going

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and Wisconsin just ends up on the short end of
it tonight.

Speaker 5 (18:45):
Yeah, they definitely did.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
In former and current front of the program, Ben Wargle,
he joined us all of last year of Badger Blitz.
He had this from Greg Gard after it, saying, quote,
I've been doing this a long time, watching them grow together,
from the time they got together to June. From June
to now may have been the most fun, enjoyable year
in my career. We were highly doubted supposed to finish twelfth.

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You know, it certainly was a fun year, Dave.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
It really was.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
It really was, and that and there are a lot
of fun facts from this year. So let's get into
our final fun facts with Dave.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Hey, have you ever heard me? Here's the term fun fact.
I got a couple of fun facts here.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Because I have a fun fact.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
You have a fun fact.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
I do first time in history this has happened. That
eight games, five turnovers, and he's recorded thirty five assists.
Spent a long time since we've seen a game like this.

Speaker 6 (19:39):
The fun out here, This game's fun.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Okay, I don't know if that fact is fun?

Speaker 8 (19:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Are you fired up?

Speaker 5 (19:44):
I'm fired fired up for fun Facts with Dave.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Oh right, our final edition of fun facts on the season,
and unsurprisingly, John Tanjay is leading the way in these
fun facts. John Tonjay in this game thirty seven points,
setting a new record for a Badger in NCAA tournament history.
The previous record was set by none other than Michael

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Finley when he scored thirty six in an NCAA tournament
game in nineteen ninety four. So Tanjay puts himself in
the record books. There for Wisconsin. Another bought in the
record books for john Tonjay, a new single season free
throw record set by john Tonjay two hundred and thirty
one made free throws. He made fourteen tonight, fourteen of sixteen,

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forty one more free throws than the previous record holder,
Nigel Hayes. So just a fantastic season at the free
throw line for Tonjay. He finished with seven hundred and
twenty four points this season, just eight points shy of
Frank Kaminski's all time Badger's single season record set in

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twenty fifteen. Now, keep in mind, Frank Kaminsky, that team
made it all the way to the national Championship game,
and so Frank Kminsky had a couple extra games to
set that mark. John Tonja is eight point shy. And
if the Badgers win this one and move on, you know,
even just so sweet sixteen, John Toanja is setting that mark.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yeah, let's just preaches the quality of team around Frank Kaminski, right,
So the reality is Frank can't do it without them.

Speaker 5 (21:25):
They can't do it without Frank in twenty fifteen.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
And Tanjay this year, he did a hell of a
job and he had a lot of great contributors around him,
but tonight, gosh, there just wasn't enough. I mean, you
scored thirty seven points, you'd expect to win. But what
a year for him, from forty plus points against Arizona
to the free throw percentage to the free throw totals,
I mean, just exceptional man. Top five season all time
for a Badger. I don't feel crazy saying that.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yeah, no, it's it's not crazy at all. Just what
he's done to put himself in the record books and
make a mark on this program with just one season
as a Badger. It makes you kind of wish that
he was here for a couple of more, but alas
he is not. Also, the eighty nine points Wisconsin scored
in this game second most points in an NCAA Tournament
game in program history. So another high scoring, high flying

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game for the Badgers, but ultimately not enough for them
to move on to the Sweet sixteen as a fall.
Tonight ninety one eighty nine. Who be Yu? And that
is our final fun facts with Dave on this season.
We'll get up a conversation with Nick Osen of twenty
four to seven Sports on the other side. He's there

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in Denver and he's gonna have all the reaction on
his thoughts on the game and thoughts from Greg Guard
and some of the players as he talked with them afterwards.
That's coming up on the other side. This is the
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Speaker 8 (22:51):
Well outside right steps back drives for nine eighty six
ey Di Reguard with one minute, eleven seconds to play
as John Taja a special player, having a special year
and another special game he's got going now thirty four points.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Welcome back to the J and K Security Solutions Basketball
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As the Badgers fall to BYU ninety one eighty nine
in the second round of the NCAA Tournaments, our friend

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Nick Osin of twenty four to seven Sports was there
and he joins us now on the hotline and uh, Nick,
it's heartbreaking. It's it's a tough loss for the Badgers.
It seemed like such a special team that they had
this year. John Tonjay, he had such a special night
but ultimately came up just short.

Speaker 6 (23:59):
Yeah, you know, Dave, I think you covered a lot
really well there. And here's kind of the thing that
I'll push back on a little bit in agreement with you.
I really think this was a special team, and I
think that the guys in the locker room feel that way.
I think the staff does. I got a really really
cool moment with coach Guard I don't want to kind
of mess up the quote, but basically talking about how

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fun this bride has been. And you know, I said
it to Nick earlier in the week. I just feel
like they ran into another special team. Quite honestly, I
told him I felt better about an Alabama potential matchup
than BYU. It's just like they're so similar to what
Wisconsin does well. And I think that, especially with that
start that the Cougars had, they just kind of had

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a little bit too much of a buffer.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
Obviously.

Speaker 6 (24:45):
You talk about Tom Jay, he was incredible. What a
nearly perfect kind of picturesque capture of his career in Madison.
One of the all time greats, one of the all
time great scores, one of the all time great people,
and you, you know, you guys won't be surprised that
I just coming out of that locker room and speaking
with the guys obviously taking it pretty hard, and I

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couldn't really respect this group anymore. They played a really
good team, they thought, you look at the numbers, they're
actually not too bad either. Kind of ran into a
gauntlet tonight, but a really really eventful season as a whole.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Guys, Nick, was it what was it that you think
gave the Badgers the most trouble early? Was it the
pace because Wisconsin's played it one of their fastest paces
this season in program history, But I mean BYU's on
another level. Or was it simply just shots falling for
BYU and not for Wisconsin.

Speaker 6 (25:40):
Yeah, really good question, Nick. You know, I felt like
maybe the first two two and a half minutes I
could see pace right, but I think they adjusted that
pretty quickly as I was watching them almost, you know,
I was fortunate to be close to the court and
could almost kind of see them kind of relaxed a
little bit and get more into what they needed to do.
But then the shots just weren't falling when the rabid

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crowd got going, and it just felt like it was
one thing after another after another. I think they were
very smart kind of the back end of the first
half and certainly the second half in attacking the room
getting to the free throw line. Now miss free throws
and it hurt them for a while too. But then
you look at the final personals. I mean, it was
generally good enough to win. I think it's like seventy
six seventy seven percent. That's still really good. If I

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had to pick a thing, I would probably just kind
of put them all together as like too much at
one time. But I'd say the pace mixed with that
shot making. Nick. Again, I just keep speaking with you
because I know I alluded to it a little bit
right when Dave was gone. Like Ritchie Saunders, some of
his shot making and the quickness of his release is

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almost unbelievable. You almost feel like you're watching an NBA
player at times, but he will be an eventual pro.
But yeah, it just felt like all those things together,
specifically the shot making, I'm looking at forty four forty
five percent from three. That's that's gonna win you most games, can.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yeah, and Nick, for this team, it's something where honestly,
let me lost my training thought there. Okay, yes, the
the final like we can talk about the mistakes all
the all that we wanted, and you know, miss shots,
missed opportunities throughout the game, but you had a shot
down there, down by two balls, in the hands of

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John Tanja for the final play.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Just walk us through how you saw.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
That that final play going down, how you viewed tan
Jay's drive to the painting and ultimately his final shot
coming up just short.

Speaker 6 (27:35):
Yeah, you know, I was pretty close to the action there, David.
It kind of played out about as I would have expected,
other than obviously the end result. I think you get
the ball to your best player, one of the five
best players in America. He's obviously on, he's having a
really good game. We try to get him in motion
and kind of semi half court transition so that you
maybe can be moving kind of like a car with

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all that action, potentially getting contact. You know, maybe like
once you see kind of that second defender shading, maybe
you try.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
To kick it.

Speaker 6 (28:04):
But I have no issues with the play with what
he did. I think there's an argument for a foul,
but I'm not gonna say, you know, that's why they
lost or anything. I understand why they wouldn't call it
if it was questionable. I actually thought for the feel
of a road game. I was actually pretty fair with
I think the Badgers got a clear advantage in the
first half BYU probably did those first six seven minutes

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of the second half, and then I felt like it
was even. It just was maybe a little bit too
ticky taking the rest of the way. But that's kind
of how I saw it, David, quite honestly. Where I was,
it actually looked like it was tom. I think for
probably two or three tenths of a second, I thought
that thing was going down. I think it was just
a little bit short. Obviously a lot of kind of
eyes and bodies in his way, but you can't fall

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in and you can't fall Blackwell, who I felt like,
kept them in it for a long time. Obviously Crawell
had a nice game as a whole. It was just,
you know, they just ran into kind of a buzz
sawze I would say offensively, Nick.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
Quickly before we got to let you go.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
Man.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
So people are worrying about what next year's gonna look like.
Six seniors walking out now no longer gonna be Badgers,
and from within you expect some of those guys, But
what to expect from the class of twenty twenty five.

Speaker 6 (29:15):
Yeah, so you know, obviously, Nick, it's kind of you know,
we'll get into it further, of course when we have
more radio hits or kind of has more names than
to that type of thing. But I'd say you mix
the class of twenty twenty five with some portal names, right,
there will be portal additions. I think this offense will
be very attractive to many players really all over the country.
And then in terms of the high school class of
twenty twenty five, I'll say this, guys, I won't be

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shocked if if Will Garlock, He's not gonna come in
and score fifteen to twenty. But with what he provides
with his size and defunk, if he's an impact or
I should say, a rotational guy maybe in his first
two years. And then zach Kinzergirl. You know, you can
never have enough shooters. I think he can make an
impact early. Aiden Jones, a tall guard like this class

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is a little underrated in my eyes. Neck I would be,
but I understand this. This is gonna be a tough
one just because of what was capable for this team.
And I think that's why these guys are feeling this
way right now.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Nick.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
The season ends for the Badgers, but the work doesn't end.
The transfer portal opens on Monday, and I'm sure you're
gonna have fantastic coverage of it over there at twenty
four seven Sports, as you've had fantastic coverage all season long,
and as always, Nick, we appreciate you hopping on all season.
Thank you for your insight, and I look forward to
talking with you more as the Badgers now enter the offseason.

Speaker 6 (30:33):
Guys, I hope so and honestly, these hips have been
a highlight of my time in Madison, so thank you
so much.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
It's been a highlight of our show every single day
when Nicky four to seven Sports hops on there he goes,
we always appreciate him hopping on and talking with us.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
After each and every single game.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
We'll be back on the other side to wrap things
up as the Badger season wraps up in the second
round of the NCAA Tournament.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Ninety one eighty nine.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
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Visit jksecurity dot com. Uh, Nick, just to kind of
quick wrap up here, Badger's falling to six seeded by
U ninety one eighty nine here in the second round

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of the NCAA Tournament. They're gonna lose six seniors from
this group, Kamario McGhee, Carter Gilmour, John toanj, Max, Klesmitt. Uh,
You're losing Stephen Krowell as well. You're losing Marcus Ilver.
You're losing a lot of experience there. You're losing three
of your starters, your top man off the bench, really

(32:08):
your top two guys off the bench. And it's it's
gonna be a lot to replace those guys, to replace
that experience. But this is college athletics. That's how it happens.
And the transfer portal opens on Monday. Though, I mean
the needs here, you're losing a lot in your back court.
I think I think guards wings that's gonna be where

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Wisconsin is gonna have to look. But also You're getting
another big man there alongside Nolan Winter.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Will Garlock's the guy that Nick mentioned in our last segment.
That's gonna be a big man coming in. And you know,
they've retooled so many different times. The Badge has been
counted out so many different years, and they always show up.
So I'm feeling confident that this group will get it right.
They'll be back in action sooner than we imagine, just
a few months away. It's gonna be tough wait until November,
but we'll be ready to go. I think the Badgers
would be a competitive basketball team again in the Big

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Ten next year.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yeah, and the work does not stop. Transfer portal opens
on Monday, so it's gonna be a plenty more conversation
about that on our shows here, you know, starting on
Monday and all through this next week as a transfer
portal continues and the NCAA Tournament continues, but it will
do so without the Wisconsin Badgers once again. Our final

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score here tonight BYU ninety one Wisconsin eighty nine. For
our producer, Casey James, who has been with us all season,
put up with us all season long. For Nick Bruswitz,
I am Dave Gasper. Thank you so much for welcoming
welcoming us to your your radios.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
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Speaker 1 (33:37):
However you're listening, We appreciate you listening all season long,
and thank you so much for following along this season.
As Badger season ends this year in the second round
in disappointment.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
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Speaker 1 (33:52):
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Tan Jay with a todd of the circle Ton Jake
go on a lot driving, stops, pumps, page clips, airball,
cut by Cata, time runs out by will hang on
and win.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
It look like a lot of contact down there, and
it is what it is.

Speaker 8 (34:16):
Cava Kata looking over at the Wisconsin players and waving
at him. So whether BYU staffers trying to.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
Keep him back. Him and Carter are the ones that
got into him.

Speaker 8 (34:27):
Yeah, he was.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
Both were on the floor.

Speaker 8 (34:29):
Two guys were on the floor and Kada started job
jacket a little bit and a heartbreak for Wisconsin Badgers
had a chance BYU gets the stops a jumper mid
range missing BYU hangs on to win it ninety one
to eighty nine. There's a spectacular season for the Wisconsin

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Badgers comes to a heartbreaking end here this afternoon in Denver.
Uphill all night for with Wisconsin

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