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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fifteen thirty.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
That's US.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
It's four oh five. This is ESPN fifteen thirty. M
oo Leger, Thank you so much for listening. Hopefully having
an awesome Tuesday afternoon. FC Cincinnati picked up three more
points on the road Saturday, a one nothing.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Shutout clean sheet over DC.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
The Orange and Blue have picked up three points in
each of their last three and currently sit in second
place in the Eastern Conference. Despite what has been I
think most would describe the first couple of months of
the season, and you could even fold preseason training into it,
as a very tumultuous stretch of time. They've hung in there.
They've got to get healthier, but they have hung in there.
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They are back on the road on Saturday for a
match against Chicago before coming home for a rare day game,
Kids Day on the twenty sixth against Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
The head coach of FC Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Last time we had Pat Noonan on the show, I
begged him to bring me cigars from Nicaragua.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
And he came through and he's with us now. Coach,
how are.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
You I'm doing good man, How are.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
You I'm doing I'm doing really well.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
It seems like, you know, the first you and I
talked about this before the season started. Preseason training was
different because you had some comings and goings and then
a lot of moving parts over the course of the
first couple months of the season. You're playing in multiple competitions,
there's a ton of travel, there's a lot of guys
who aren't healthy. You have some players play for their
national teams, and yet you guys have I think you
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could say hung in there and maybe even more than that.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Is that a fair way of putting it.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, your word tumultuous was spot on. It's been. Yeah,
we've had a lot thrown at us. You know, you
don't want that to become you know, distractions or an
excuse to you know, not performing and not getting results.
So that part I'm pleased with as far as where
the group's at because we have a long way to go.
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But despite a pretty up and down preseason and not
having you know, consistent player availability, the guys have kind
of done a good job of just you know, getting
on with it and trying to get better. So, you know,
I say kind of at the beginning of every year
and we're past that you know, early phase, but getting
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results when you're not at your best is important, and
you know, I think that's probably been the silver lining
here with you know, the start of the season and
kind of where we're at. So certainly a lot to
improve on. But if this is where you know we're positioned,
when we know we have a long way to go
to hit our stride and be at our best, then
I think we're at a pretty good spot.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Between the travel and players not being available and late
additions late in the preseason and everything you had to
deal with, was that the craziest stretch that you've had
to deal with as a head coach?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I think that's pretty fair. With transfer conversations with you know,
some of the contract stuff, with injuries, it was really
an up and down start to the season and and
that's not ideal. And and that's also something that we
have to look at and try to to learn from
because you know, this isn't just hey, it's a little
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bit unfortunate. There's plenty of things that can be prevented
or that need to be improved because we can't expect
to have, you know, the start to the season like
like we did with all those circumstances and expectings to
work out, you know, that's unrealistic. And so some good, uh,
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some good things to learn from, but we need to
be more consistent in player availability and and having you know,
some of these other conversations, you know, off field conversations,
I think settled and handled in a in a way
where here's the standard, here's the expectation, and everybody's on
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the same page. So you know, there's a lot to
learn from it. It can't just be pointing out, you know,
what everybody else is doing wrong or what we don't like.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
You talk about player availability. You had Matt Miosga on Saturday.
How good did it feel to see him run out
on the field.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
It was nice. It was nice. You could you could
kind of feel it within the group. You know, it's
been a long runback for Matt, and there was a
couple of setbacks, and you know, we were really cautious.
I think Matt was cautious with when when's the right
time because there was still pain, you know, in the
return to play. I think there was a you know,
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a couple of mental hurdles that he needed to get over.
But the last two weeks with him, you know, fully
ingrained in training and meetings and kind of all of it,
and then certainly traveling with us on the road, his
presence was felt. You know, it's good or bad, it's louder.
You know, he's a he's a good communicator, but he's
got a big personality, and even in the you know,
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the meetings and even in the meal rooms and on
the plane, his energy was felt and it was just refreshing,
to be honest, and then he comes in in a
big moment along with some of the other reserves. At
that time, it was with Brad Smith and he he
kind of helps us see out the game and get
a resultant. So I think probably for him to be
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involved in a meaningful game in an important moment with
his first minutes was great, and so we'll look to
try to build on that. He's an important piece and
we're going to have to find ways to get him,
you know, game fit, and that's probably just gonna be
throwing him out there. So a really good you know,
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welcome back to an important planner for this group.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Dot O Valenzuelas starts on Saturday and scores the only
goal of the match, his first start of the season.
Somebody who has been a part of this organization since fourteen,
fifteen years old, walked us through the decision to put
him in the starting eleven.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah, a little bit circumstantial, a little bit his growth
and you know, the Matt turation process because you know,
if I'm being honest, I think there was a couple
of players ahead of him with you know, Evander, Corey
Baird in the moment and and Sergio. But with Sergio
and Corey there was as well as Evander, there was
some injury concerns, you know, not not thinking some of
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these guys could probably start the game, and it allowed
dot to an opportunity because I think the game prior
should have been a potential start for Dotto. But I
just think he had a week that I was a
little bit hard on him and maybe too critical and
maybe unfair, but then trying to push him in a
way where he's more consistent and the expectations are higher
because you saw it, you know, on the field in
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DC he's a talented kid that can really help our team.
And so there's been you know, signs off the field
of him maturing and becoming a better pro, and then
on the field it's consistency, and I think he took
his minutes. Well, he was one of the you know,
the guys if you look at you know who played well,
who was a positive you know, who underperformed? I think
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he was one that was in the uh, you know,
the positive category. And so how do we build on
that and continue to have the right mentality the next
week in training and have a good training session and
make sure that your name is consistently you know, in
the conversation for the starting UH you know option.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Pat Noon and head coach f Csoncinnati, you talked about
being hard on him. When you're hard on a player,
what does that look like? What does that sound like?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Uh? You'll you'll know by the tone in UH on
the field. A lot of times that's I want to
be more critical. That's a one on one conversation to
let a player know, you know, either the disappointment or
the expectations that I don't think are being met, and
making sure that you know, they walk they walk away
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in a more motivated way than they you know, they
came into the conversation and that they understand. Look, I
believe in you. We got to see more. And so
I typically do a lot of that in a one
on one fashion. But then there's times on the field
where okay, we can't keep having the same conversation over
and over, you know, just using Dato as an example,
and I'm not saying that's the case with Tim and
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we're having these conversations every week, but it's, hey, this
needs to improve, and this is the moments we're talking about,
and so usually it's a change of tone or a
one on one conversation. But you know, it's tough love.
You know that as a young kid that you know
a lot of people rate very highly, myself included, and
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so in moments where the expectations aren't being met or
you want to see more, you know, I think the
approach to how you pull that out of players is important,
and you know they all handle it in a different way,
and so some guys like being yelled at, some guys don't.
So just getting a feel for your players and what's
going to uh, you know, push them and push the
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right buttons as I think important.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
So I think a lot of observers would would look
at how you're playing. And you know, again ten points
the last four matches, despite all the stuff you've had
to deal with, really really good, you still want to
get more offense out of your club. Obviously you got
to get healthier. Beyond that, how do you increase your
goal count?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, I think the relationships of our our you know,
attacking group has been inconsistent as far as the you
know who's whose starting games. You know, the injuries kind
of take you out of rhythm, and so you know,
last game it's Dotto and and Kevin and Luca, and
you know games before that it was Corey and Sergio
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and Evander and so we need more consistency with I think,
you know, our starting group. But I also think when
we look at some of these recent games, it's the
hold up play, it's decision making on the ball to
move our group up the field in different ways. I
think that's been erratic. And and why you see games
like DC in the second half turning in their favor
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and them controlling more of the plays because you know,
our attacking group, you know, I don't think has been
working well enough together. So those are the things that
you know, we need to keep working on them with
and UH and and make sure that we get the
relationships better, we get the understanding of our ideas better,
because you know, there's still guys that are new to it.
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The Vands new to it, Kevin's new to it. And
while they're very talented players, you know, there's times where
we're out of sync and we need to continue to
message the right things in the right moments to get
them to understand, you know, how how our attacking group
should look this.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
This little run you've you've gone on winning three straight
started in Nashville. There was a stretch in that game,
and and you're certainly more qualified to speak to this
than than I am, But I there was a stretch
in that game which was as good as I've ever
seen Roman Santano play. And this is a guy who's
had some really awesome moments. Would that be an accurate
or an unfair assessment on my behalf?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Well that I would say that's accurate. I said after
the game. If wasn't for Roman and Evander in that game,
we you know, we don't walk away with with a win.
You know, he stood on his head for five minutes.
The penalty save is, you know, a bonus. You don't
expect your keeper to make that. When they do, it
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gives you life, It gives you momentum. But he needed
to be ready for a minute later when he had
to make two ridiculous saves and I say a minute later.
I don't even think it was that long. But aside
from just the elite shot stopping, there's games where you know,
the composure, the decision making under pressure, the distribution, you know,
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that all factors into how I rate, you know, these performances,
not just shot stopping. And so the very next game
against New England, I think it was poor. And it's
being consistent and in not putting our team in tough situations.
And so there was probably two or three moments where
the clear is weren't going against the England and we're
immediately under pressure, and I think that, you know, stems
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directly from you know, his decisions on the ball. So
you know, I'm being critical, but we're looking for more
of those, you know, games like we saw against Nashville
without having to save us with these saves, you know.
And so you know, Roman's another one that I'm hard
on because I think there's so much more to unlocked there.
But in the end, when you when I look at
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the the goalkeeper position, don't lose the team games. And
Roman has been consistent about not only, you know, not
doing that. He typically in games like that where he
stands on the side, he's he's winning us games and
we're we're gaining points from it. So that's the most
important thing for me. And if if you have to
sacrifice some of the decision making and the ball to
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his feet, you want. I want goalkeepers that know how
to to save the ball, and Romans uh pretty elite
with that.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I stood in the mud last Saturday watching my seven
year old play soccer, and I thought about you guys
later that night against New England, And so maybe this
is a dumb question, how do you prepare for a
bad weather game like that?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I prepared for it to be much worse than it was,
to be honest, just because of the amount of rain.
You just don't know how the field's going to hold up.
You know, maybe you're seen standing water and you're going
to say, okay, we can't move the ball on the ground,
you know, in front of our own goals. So we
have to be more direct. I was anticipating having to
message that, but I tell you what, the field held
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up in such a good way that you know I'm
standing there other than getting rained on, I thought the
game played really well because the field was in such
good condition, and so you know, I'd rather have rain
than snow than wind. When it gets windy, it's just
really hard to control the ball and the game changes.
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So if it's just rain in a fast paced game,
I'll take that any day of the week. But credit
to our you know, our guys at TQOL at ground
screw they were you know, they had that field well prepared.
So you know, unfortunately you didn't experience the same situation.
I'm assuming, but.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
No, oh no, no no.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
We played in the mud for forty five minutes and
but we won, so you know, same result.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
It's all accounts a kid.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
That gets to play in the mud and winning games.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
If not the worst, that's not the worst thing at all. Uh,
good luck on Saturday. We always appreciate your time. Thank
you so much.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
We all well, thanks man, you got it.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Pat Noon and head coach FC Cincinnati on the road
on Saturday eight to thirty match against Chicago and then
back at home they play the uh the rare daytime
tilt at two thirty on the twenty six. That's a
kid's day at TQL Stadium. That match will started two
thirty against Kansas City. Obviously, you can hear all the
games on ESPN fifteen thirty. I enjoyed talking with him
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nineteen after four o'clock or other, Pat Pat Brennan. Pat
Brennan makes his triumph return to the show. You know, Pat,
Pat's gone through a little bit of a change. He's covering,
he's covering everything. He's really been covering the Reds along
with Gordon whit meyerv at the Inquirer and doing a
great job. So Pat's gonna join us that Pat Pat
Brennan at five o five.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
We are looking forward to that.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
The Rats are about to get healthy, maybe as healthy
as they're gonna be all year long.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
We will see. We'll spend some time on that. Next
on ESPN fifteen
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Thirty, Cincinnati's ESPN