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Speaker 1 (00:00):
After four o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm oegar.
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when we talk Suomer Sports. We love having on our
buddy Sam brook House, NFL analyst forsoomer sports dot com,
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and it's good to have you say, what's going on.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I'm so excited for this draft because it seems like
no one knows what's gonna happen. Yes, and there's gonna
be some excellent moments on draft day in which maybe
four quarterbacks go, maybe one quarterback goes, maybe ultiple running
backs are taken. That's exciting to me.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah, it's exciting from a thirty thousand foot view. I
think from a Bengals perspective, I think it's exciting. It's
all so scary because they have to nail it in
this draft. They have not drafted well in recent years.
The jury is still out for last year. They need
players who can help right now. So understanding that and
all of their team needs, who do I want at seventeen.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Look, he's fallen quite a bit, but I think it's
a great fit for James Pierce out of Tennessee. This
is a guy who was a top tier player basically
at the end of the season. He's immensely productive, had
a ton of tackles to loss and if you look
at his pressure rate on Summer Sports dot Com on
our draft guide, you'll see that he has a blue
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chip grade. There's a blue line underneath that number. That
means that he was one of the top fifteen percent
in college last year. This is the guy who can
get after the passer. And this is a guy who
rumors and questions have been abound in the off season,
but when it comes down to his production on the field,
it's all out there in the numbers and on the film.
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He's an excellent player and I think he'd be a
good fit in Cincinnati, especially given he's a big school guy.
I know the Bengals like taking big school guys. He's
a top tier performer at the college level that marks
well with what the Bengals want. And then finally he's
a guy who has fallen down the ranks. I think
there's Jalen Carter potential in James Pierce.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
So I think with that position in particular, a lot
of folks are going to say there's depth there. There's
depth at edge rusher, and they still do have, at
least for now and maybe the changes they still do
have Trey Hendrickson assess the depth of edge rusher. For me,
how long can they wait before they get a guy
who can help your one?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
So I think if they're going to target the edge
rushing position, which I think they should, again Trey Hendrickson
in extension talks or rather not an extension, but they
could be happening. I guess it's what I should say,
Sam Hubbard or Tiring. I think that the first round
has to be the spot where you attack that position.
It's a premium position, and it seems as if in
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this draft the refrain has been seven or eight edge
rushing guys will be gone by the first round. I
do not think that that depth continues like it does
at the running back position, offensive line position, even at
the wide receiver position into day two or day three.
I think you got a snag an Edgresher if you
want one in round one.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
So you mentioned the term premium position. What's interesting about
the Bengals is they have a lot of needs at
what one might consider quote non premium positions. My argument
would be, if you have needs at those positions, suddenly
they are premium positions. So you know we're talking safety,
we're talking linebacker. Guard is obviously a major need for
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this team. When you look at the needs they have,
where could they least afford to wait to address with
a certain player?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
So I think you bring up the linebacker position. There's
two top tier linebackers and I don't know if either
of them will make it to seventeen. But that's Jalen
Walker and Jahad Campbell. And what's interesting about these players
is they both actually have potential at the edge rushing
positions as well. Allah of Michael Parsons for example, Now
that's a one percent outcome, that's one of the best
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outcomes of all time. For Michael Parsons. But these are
two players who both played off ball linebacker and both
rush the pass or a lot. Jalen Walker projecting to
be more of an edge that maybe can swing to
linebacker the opposite for Jahad Campbell. I think those are
two guys that you, as you said, have become premium picks.
I worry a little bit about the offensive line position.
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I think you can wait to get a good, great
offensive lineman round two, round three. There's guys like Jackson Slater,
small school guys from Sacramento State, who you can get
down the line, who can fill in that center guard position.
So I think you really got to attack the addressing
position and maybe the corner position. But I know the
Bengals don't typically like to trade around too much on
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draft day. But if you think that, you know the
non premium position can be had in round two, seems
like a good spot to trade back as a result.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, so that's what I want them to do. Because
they have six picks, they have a lot of needs.
I was talking about this earlier. If you look at
their team needs, they look like a team that came
off a four win season. They look like a rebuilding team.
They don't look like a team that's in their super
Bowl window. And they think, and I think most of
us think that if they nail the draft, they're in
their super Bowl window. And so to me, when you
have six picks, and when you have all those team needs,
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you know, the idea is to get more draft capital.
The idea is to take the seventeenth pick. And I
guess you could do this later on in round two,
which they've done before, and trade that down. I want
more picks. If you're looking there at seventeen, do you
see a team that could potentially say, yeah, you know what,
we'll slide up to seventeen. We'll let you move down.
We'll give you something extra and make it work out
for you.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
So I think a lot of that depends probably on
two or three positions. The first position has to be
the quarterback position. If Shador Sanders makes it pass number
nine at the New Orleans Saints, I think it's going
to start to heat up of teams thinking they can
jump back in. In fact, I think the Cleveland Browns,
the division rival, are actually not really making a bet
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on the evaluation of the other quarterbacks. I think they
might have all four quarterbacks grated the same. What I
think they're making a bet on is the availability of
these guys. And as a result, when you're betting on
the availability, given they have pick thirty three, the first
pick of the second round, other teams start to get
a little hyper if they want to jump back in.
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I think the Steelers are a team who may want
to trade up again, that's another indivision, the Browns, and
also in Division. I'd also be shocked at teams, you know,
like the Saints, don't try to get back in if
they get a guy that they like at in the
non quarterback position. There's also there's some interesting kind of
weighs the draft breaks, which with like cornerbacks and in
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tier defensive linemen wide receivers, where if a wide receiver
like Tetaro McMillan or meccaguka starts to drop a little bit,
I think teams may want to try to get in
the back end of the first round around that pick
seventeen pick in order to make that selection, rather than
try to wait it out and see if that player
is available. Given that the next group of wide receivers
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probably won't be picked until the fifties.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
So, Sam, I love you, but if I if I'm
using the draft to help the Browns and Steelers solve
their quarterback problems, that's a negative for me.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Hey, it's not ideal. But here's what I Here's what
I tell you, though, if you're helping them solve solve
their problems in the draft with the quarterback, the average
quarterback is Mitchell Trubisky. So if you told me that,
I could get a top tier ed drusher later on
in the draft and fill all my needs. Knowing that
I have probably a top three quarterback in Joe Burrow,
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a top five quarterback in Joe Burrow, and the best
wide receiver in the best wide receiver two, I'm still
pretty confident about that. Let them shoot the lotto. If
they're gonna make me a little bit better down the line, you.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Will have given me. If they do that, I will
have two weeks worth of talk shows booked already. I'm
good to go. I won't have a hard time with
that at all. San Brookhouse from Super Sports, go back
to offensive line for me, because I think in their
ideal world, they if they took a guard, whether it's
round one, two, three, whatever it is, I think they
would like somebody who could play guard now and eventually
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down the road move the tackle depending on how Orlando
Brown ages. Are those players available as we get to
rounds two, three, and the rounds on Saturday, can I
get a guy like that?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
There is a bunch of them available, and in fact
there will be ones available probably at seventeen and deep
into round three. The guys who might may be available
at seventeen Kelvin Banks, so I really out of Texas,
an im mensely productive guy who was a very clean
tackle who I think can also flex into the middle.
We're thinking about guys like Tyler Booker, a true guard
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who also may be available at seventeen. And then you
start looking at day two. You look at guys maybe
like Gray's Abel, Josh Connerly, Kate Rattledge is out of Georgia,
Jona Savanaia Camera. I mean, there's so many guys in
the draft Wyatt Mill of West Virginia, Like, I'm just
scrolling down the lovely art in our Summer Sports Draft guys,
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and I'm seeing guys that are like day three that
I feel pretty comfortable about getting a shot at a
starting job in camp or at least, you know, getting
in some reps, in some solid reps in the preseason.
That's getting into like rounds four and five. The draft
is set up for the Mingle succeed to succeed. They
have ed rushing needs, they have non premium position needs,
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and this is the draft where there's a ton of
good non premium position players. I think they can really
refill the clip and make a big run behind their
superstars with some nice young players this year.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
They gotta nail it this year. There's no doubt about that.
Suomer Sports dot Com check out the Suomer Sports twenty
twenty five Rookie Draft Guide and Sam always good to
have you man. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah, appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
You're the best. That's our guy, Sam Brookwsomer Sports dot com.
I am not trading with the Browns. I love Sam,
we have him on the show. He's an awesome analyst.
I am not helping the Browns or Stealers solve their
quarterback issues. No we're not. I'll will stick and pick.
We'll do sports headlines two next ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati's
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Speaker 1 (11:33):
You need to know what got The Bengals must get
better and more consistent production from the interior of their
defensive line in twenty twenty five, which could put that
position group in the spotlight when the Bengals go on
the clock with the seventeenth overall pick in this year's
NFL Draft. One name worth remembering is Walter Nolan from
ole Miss. Nolan transferred to the Rebels from Texas A
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and M, and he played all over the defensive line
last season, showing off a variety of pass rush moves
while posting very good numbers. Nolan has six and a
half sacks to go with thirty five pressures, and he
was effective at stopping the run too. Some evaluators say
his aggressiveness can work to his disadvantage, especially against trap
plays and screen passes, but he's versatile and he plays
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with enough energy that most believe he can start Day
one as a plug and play defensive tackle. Keep an
eye on ole Miss defensive tackle Walter Nolan.
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