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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Exactly three o'clock on ESPN fifteen to thirty uppa legger
broadcasting today from Twin Peaks in Westchester, home of the
Tony Mo Football Show. We'll get into what we have
coming up right now. Zach Taylor is at the podium
at pay Course Stadium.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
We're gonna go right here.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I'll say they never did anything for you.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Okay, all good, overall pick in the twenty twenty five
NFL tri Okay.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Like I said last night, really excited to get Shamar here.
A guy that we really fell in love with over
our scouts obviously have scouted him since the fall. Coaches
fell in love over the course of the spring. Uh
fits tremendous needs role for us, a tremendous fit in
the locker room. This is the program that you know.
We know players there, we know people who have been there,
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coach there, currently coached there. They just love this guy.
So he fits everything that we're looking for in one
of our players. I know he can't wait to get
in here and get to work. So again, just such
a great fit for our defense, such a great fit
for our defensive line, such a great fit for our team.
And I know our fan base here in Cincinnati and
and surrounding will fall in love with him, and so
just excited to let him get in here and get
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to work and and I'll let you guys get to
know him better. So with that, I'll turn it over
to smorning. I'll let you guys fire away.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
A how y'all doing? How I'm great?
Speaker 5 (01:33):
I'm great, man, I'm great last night. Uh I barely
got any sea bass not actually, you know, but I'm
excited to be.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Here that A lot of you guys.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
See the option where you wanna be on the track day?
Speaker 7 (01:48):
Why did you decide to go a sweet bay?
Speaker 6 (01:51):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (01:51):
My dad always say he works so hard, why would
you not wanna go up and shake his hand?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I was like, when you say it like that, I
got no true about to go.
Speaker 8 (02:01):
What was what was that like on stage with fans?
I mean, that's even a pretty unique thing.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
A lot of guess my game.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Man, There's a lot of emotions running wild through my body.
You know, it's been a long time coming far through
a lot of adversities throughout my football career.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
You know, just happy I'm up there with there, Just
happy I made.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
It than the white er, Uh, you know, just being
a rotational guy from what's my college career? You know,
finding through that and then also just.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Just the bumpy rides along the way.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
You know, I'm not from the best background, like financially,
so I know, uh, it took a lot and a
lot of support to get to this point.
Speaker 9 (02:43):
What gives you hope in yourself that your best days
or had to be at the anfl.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Love cause I know what I'm capable of.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
I feel like I'm very confident in my abilities and
I know I haven't scratched the service of where I
of what I could be.
Speaker 8 (02:58):
How do you think maybe that most bring that out
of here?
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Man?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I just I rely's just hit the ground, run and
go to work.
Speaker 10 (03:07):
Here.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Uh my dad and my agents cool? Is your yeah? Yeah?
Of course of course?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
About I noticed in the last.
Speaker 11 (03:20):
Twenty four hours, what role has he played.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Getting YouTuber as far to Uh, I played a very
strong role.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
You know, taught me how to be a man, you know,
tall to people, take care of my business, just go
about things the right way. You know, just a lot
of things beyond football he had instilled into me.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
So you know, he we been through this all right together.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
I mean, I think I don't think i'd be here
without him.
Speaker 9 (03:44):
You're to to every fingers man that might not have
ever watched you.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Very fast, very violent, and very physical with a high motor.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Have you had any conversations with players.
Speaker 10 (03:59):
Yet at all?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Or Uh?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
You know my former teammate Mac, you know, we talked
a lot.
Speaker 10 (04:05):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
I met some guy named Joe in the locker room.
He came to me like, Hi, my name is Joe.
How you doing.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I don't know you.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
It's actually crazy like seeing people that in person. It's
just way different from seeing him on TV. So it
was a cool one for me. He was like, happier here,
let's go with some sex.
Speaker 12 (04:28):
Come from Miami and you're gonna have Nancy football.
Speaker 13 (04:34):
I was like going to to that.
Speaker 14 (04:36):
Man.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
I feel like I was just just fine. You know,
I'm a I'm adapting. You know, I did it once.
I could do it again. Miami to cause Station is
a like night and day. So I feel like cau
Station and Cincinnat shouldn't be that hard. So I think
I would be just fine.
Speaker 8 (04:53):
The first impression of since sat a couple of hours.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
That you spend here so far, man, it's been great,
you know, just been good. Vibes very just I got
drafted last night.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
The fans.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
You know, I gotta gotta have a little party in
the crowd to some fans got here. All the coaches
been very nice and very appreciative of me.
Speaker 15 (05:11):
Your favorite.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Favorite right now, TJ, Miles and Nick and Tra of
course shout out the bro.
Speaker 14 (05:26):
Come back.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Oh no, not really, we haven't talked much. You held
up to Jersey. Yeah, keeping for Uh, yeah, there was
thoughts of keeping for.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
But we have a tradition here, uh d Lineman don't
wear any numbers out of the nineties, so I picked
the next best thing, ninety seven. Uh, the person that
used to wear I'm pretty sure y'all know who. He is,
pretty famous around these parts. Uh has a record with
the highest number of.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Pro Bowls on defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
So I intend to try to match, try to get
the same productivity with WHI always in New Jersey for y'all.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
You know, tryna live up to the hype, were you
or of course? Yeah, of course? What I mean dinner
position was he ay you watch.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
I mean I'm not gonna sit here and say I
watched him a lot. I mean, growing up, I've seen
a couple of clips, you know, but I I ain't
really watch didn't really have TV like that too much
to be a consistent watcher of his game.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
What are some of the players growing up that you
wanted to to be?
Speaker 5 (06:37):
Like, hold your game after uh JJ and Julie Peppers
that for those two, like those two was just always
jumping off the screen to.
Speaker 8 (06:44):
Me, how do you think trade can help you?
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Uh, I'm just gonna try to be a fly on
the wall. I mean he was a sackler last year,
so obviously he's doing something right. So any little bits
of nuggets I could get from him could tr tremendously
help my game?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Did you hm?
Speaker 11 (07:00):
Sorry, did you said you spoke into him?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yeah? No, no, no, no, no, you plan to, I hope
so I would like to.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
When we saw you in the and we had some
pretty outbreak, just had bloody number.
Speaker 15 (07:13):
Forty under four six.
Speaker 8 (07:18):
Which of those numbers? Is everything you get in the
top do you think you like best?
Speaker 4 (07:22):
It translates best if you be successful.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
For uh, definitely broad Jump Like, yeah, I wasn't expecting
a ten eleven. I ain't gonna lie to you. I
was not expecting ten eleven. It just came out of
nowhere that day. My legs wanted to work with me
that day, So looky legs. Uh uh, but uh, I
feel like the broad jump really just shows how explosive
you I could be off the stop of the ball.
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So I feel like that's probably gonna translate more. I mean,
forty is cool and all, but you not gonna run
forty yards every time.
Speaker 10 (07:55):
Played in a lot of big time moments at A
and MS ball, big wins, free guys, what does that
translate this?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Sa uh?
Speaker 5 (08:04):
I just it just gonna tralenge you by me just
not being like, just not make the moment bigger than
what it is. You know, I've been in big moments before,
but well, the part where people mess up is people
treat it bigger than what it actually is. That's when
you start getting nervous and started losing your assignment, started
doing ma A. So just tryna kee go into every
game with the same mindset.
Speaker 14 (08:25):
Yesterday thought Dallas my creature.
Speaker 8 (08:28):
When they pay time about her, you start to getting nervous.
You start to wonder when you were gonna come off
the board of bed.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
Was there a moment like that, not that you were
sliding you had.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Fights, but no, uh when time, when Dallas speaks time,
I was very happy for him.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
You know, that's my dog. I knew it was a
high school. So I'm oh, I ain't.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
I ain't no hate, no kudos, like I'm happy for
him and him and his family.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Uh, it was just.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
A little this is just shocked all out, Like, Okay,
I think this is where I'm going for sure. But
you know, everything happens for a reason, and I feel
like God put me here for a reason.
Speaker 10 (09:02):
So talk to.
Speaker 8 (09:03):
Any of your teammates at A and M coaches would
have been the masters from that.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Uh, you know, just a whole. They are all proud
of me. They know how much I were to get
to this point. You know how much stuff I fought through,
So they all happy for me.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
It's gonna be hard for someone in your spots. You
know where you're going to get right for your first job,
to be dropped in Cincinnati on the team that expects
to go to the playoffs and be for championships, and
you feel lucky that you owned up wound up in.
Speaker 11 (09:30):
A spot like this.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
Of course where I'm at, look at the team I
played for. You mean, y'all always y'all always competing for
Super Bowl every year. Y'all always just right there. So
I mean if I could be if y'all picked me
at pick number seventeen to be that player that get
y'all get y'all over the hump.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
So I'm extremely honored for that. What is it you
get to to get the team over that?
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Just do what my coaches aksing me to do to develop,
as how do you want me to develop?
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Be the best thing I could be for my team
for my teammates.
Speaker 13 (10:00):
As you see, when players get drafted and they get
that NFL contracts, they'll ursus house or r or or something.
Speaker 14 (10:08):
Has there been something that you wanted to do that's
the lafe long dream Like you said that bac NFL,
I'm gonna do.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
This, Uh.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Probably bout my MoMA house or something to take care
of my mom. She worked hard, So I think it's
time for me to take care.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Some Tis you where you noticed.
Speaker 16 (10:27):
All season's gonna be spentfuls during the defense and you're
all this clickotball.
Speaker 11 (10:31):
How can you anticipate in you'll gonna make an immediate.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Impacts or kat Uh?
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Just learning from the vet guys, you know, taking up,
take advantage of every opportunity I get, you know, just
doing my job at the best of my ability, or
any time I go into game trying to mess up,
cause I know where you wanna be that.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Guy, so basically as it just gonna coming in being
just just just the best player I could be for
my team.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
What did some conversations with out hold so.
Speaker 14 (10:56):
The best sport leader of you know any how many
plans to use you about the de fats.
Speaker 13 (11:02):
Everything like that?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (11:04):
You know four down front, five through nine. You know,
a tax style. You know, you know you already noticed.
Speaker 8 (11:13):
Would you like to compete to be the guy who
the day edge?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I mean, I'm a competitor.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
I'm not gonna say I'm gonna sit here and get
a certain job, but I'm definitely gonna work towards at
you know.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Uh, I like to be I like to compete.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
I like I like how the competition, so I don't
mind competing for that spot.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Of course. What are those conversations you like?
Speaker 5 (11:39):
Uh, you know he's happy for me, he's proud of me,
and you know he always says the work's not done yet.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Thank y'all.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
All right, Jamar Stewart, the first round draft choice of
the Bengals last night, seventeen overall meeting with the media
than you, originally known as Paul Brown Stadium. Not a
man of many words, but one who certainly sounded confident
in his ability to compete and help this team. Almost instantly.
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We are hoping to talk with Shamar ourselves coming up
in maybe twenty to thirty minutes. We also have a
guy coming up at four oh five. We all have
our opinions of what the Bengals did. I'm interested in
talking with someone who has actually watched Shamar Stewart extensively.
And so we have a guy by the name of
Billy Lucci who has covered Texas A and M sports
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for decades. He's the guy. He's gonna join us, coming
up at four oh five. James Rapeene a little bit
later on at five oh five. Lots to get to
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Speaker 1 (13:50):
Twenty four after three ESPN fifteen to thirty. Moegger broadcasting
this afternoon from Twin Peaks in Westchester. Cannot wait to
be back here and at the Florence Lowcie this fall
for the Tony and Mo Football Show. It very much
feels like kind of a fall Friday with us talking
tons of football, recapping round one of the draft, looking
ahead to tonight and tomorrow, and it's it's warm out,
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but it's it's kind of gloomy ish, sort of fall ish.
And so we're here at Twin Peaks and if you're
in the Westchester area, come on out and join us.
So the poll question, I threw it out last night.
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hi ns dot com. The Bengal selected Shamar Stewart with
the seventeenth pick, and I just I left you then
four choices. First choice yeah, second choice sure, third choice,
I don't know, and fourth choice yikes. Forty three point
two percent of you say yikes. So couple of things.
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Number one, let's this. This is a fun process, and
we all love the draft and it's cool television and
we're uber interested in it, and this draft is huge
for the Bengals. The reality is we have opinions, but
we have very little knowledge, like we we we could
have opinions of who the Bengals should have taken, or
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why they shouldn't have taken Shamar Stewart, or why they
should have We don't know. That's the fun part of this, right,
there's no real outcome this weekend, and so it's kind
of unfair, kind of unfair to say instantly when the
dude hasn't been a Bengal for twenty four hours it
was the wrong pick where he's not going to be
able to play at this level, or you know what,
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the traits are nice, but the production lacks thereof in
college would suggest this guy's not going to be able
to help. Like you know, it's like if if you
get a job, you're hired day one and everybody thinks
you were the wrong person, Like, I don't know, can
you can you give me a shot? And so I
always preach open mindedness. I'm gonna be open minded about
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Shamar Stewart. Maybe Al Golden's coaching and maybe NFL development
and maybe just I don't know the math catching up
to Shamar Stewart. I mean, it's kind of impossible to
have thirty nine pressures and fewer than two sacks, right,
So maybe that swings the other way. If he continues
to pressure the quarterback, you would think the sacks are
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gonna come, and maybe the production eventually catches up to
the traits. Those things can happen, and so it's we
have our preferences. I'll be honest with you. My preference
was not Shamar Stewart. We talked about that on this
show yesterday with James Rapine, who had the Bengals taking
Shamar Stewart at seventeen. But we don't know. Let's admit
that that it's kind of unfair to just go ahead
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and assume this guy's not gonna work out. Let's also
admit this, this is something else James and I talked
about yesterday. Whoever they took last night at seventeen, there
was gonna be a yeah but attached to him. Maybe
it was medicals, Geha Campbell, medicals. If they take him, yeah,
but god, the labram is it gonna be available week
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one or and he fell out of round one. Maybe
it was gonna be a guy who didn't play at
the highest level in college, like a Mike Green, Right, Yeah,
but boy, he didn't play upper echelon competition or a
character concern. You know, that was brought up with Mike
Green and was also brought up with walf Owen, who
was off the board by the time the Bengals on
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the clock last night. There's a lot about the two
players from a football perspective. Yeah, but man, you know
what maturity, character, that sort of stuff, or maybe there
was gonna be a a yeah but yeah, but boy,
the traits are nice, but the production is just not there.
Whoever they took, we were gonna do two things. One
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talk about the positions they didn't address too maybe dwell
a little bit too much on the Yeah. But the
third admission is, let's be honest, this is underwhelming and
he certainly seems like a likable kid. We're gonna talk
to him here in just a minute. I hope this
kid is the NFL defensive rookie of the year. I
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hope this works out. And as much as Al Golden
might say he's not a project, kind of feels like one, right,
Like the idea was and is to get a guy
and get players early in this draft who could help
out as soon as possible. Does it feel like a
guy who had four and a half sacks across three
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seasons of college football in the SEC is capable of
helping this team win football games early in the season. Man,
I don't know. And that sort of fits in with
the theme this offseason, this offseason in terms of the collective,
the player acquisitions in free agency and so far in
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the draft relative I think to what a lot of
us hoped for or expected when last season ended has
been kind of underwhelming. You cannot help but ignore. I'm
sorry you cannot help but fail to ignore just the
sheer lack of sacks. I know there's other ways to
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kind of judge how good a guy is at the
point of attack or beating a blocker, all that sort
of stuff. You do have to account for. Pressures. You
do have to count for, maybe pressures that ended in
a turnover or a mistake by the opposing quarterback. But
at the end of the day, we love Trey Hendrickson,
Why dude get sacks? We're down on Miles Murphy. Why
God doesn't get sacks? Well, Shamar Stewart's college production looks
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a lot more like Miles Murphy's than Trey Hendrickson, which
makes last Night's pick one that in a couple of
years we may look back on and say, man, they
nailed it. But today feels underwhelming. Just the latest piece
of underwhelming news in what has been so far this
offseason pretty underwhelming. One twenty nine minutes after three o'clock,
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we're here at Twin Peaks in Westchester. But I'm gonna
give the dude a chance, especially if he's like really
nice to me when we talk to him, and he
is a scheduled to call in here in just a
few minutes. Also, we're gonna go chat with Billy Lucci,
who knows more about Texas and football than anybody on
the planet. He joins us at four h five James
Rapine later on in the five o'clock hour on ESPN
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Speaker 1 (20:49):
When you get that call, who's the first person to
hear from Zach Calzech Zach Taylor And what does he say, congratulations,
we're taking you want to be a Bengal? What how
does that conversation?
Speaker 8 (21:01):
I know it's brief.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
How does that conversation work?
Speaker 10 (21:04):
He's like, hey, is this your arm light? He's like
this Bengals with the Bengals. I'm like, how you doing? Coach?
You're like, hey, man, I gotta pickut your name on it.
I've been waiting. Are you mad?
Speaker 14 (21:18):
So?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I mean, I can't imagine the flood of emotions right,
It's it's the culmination of a lifetime's worth of work
and and all the time and energy you've put into this,
and and everybody around you has put into this. What
is it like? What is that moment like when you
find out I am an NFL first round draft pick?
Speaker 10 (21:37):
Man, you know, I just rescrict all what it took
to get here. Yeah, I just looking out as my
family that came with me excited for me.
Speaker 16 (21:47):
You know.
Speaker 10 (21:47):
It was just a very happy moment for me.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
And then you got to Cincinnati a short while ago.
You just met with the media. What I gotta imagine
it's been a whirlwind. What has it been like ever
since you touched on here in your new city?
Speaker 10 (22:04):
I got a little nothing, and then every since then,
I've been on your go.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
All right, I heard you in the press conference you
talked about you met Joe Burrow. How many of your
new teammates have you had a chance to, uh to
either talk to in person or that have reached out
via text or on a phone call?
Speaker 10 (22:21):
Only only one? Uh, just Joe my former team from
A and m m Kelly Jackson.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Now I was gonna ask about that, right Obviously McKinley
Jackson drafted by the Bengals last year, so you get
a chance to play with him. Is is that something
that you know, the two of you had talked about
being a possibility in the run up to last night.
Speaker 10 (22:44):
Uh, just a little bit, just a little bit. He
probably it was gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yeah, that's that's pretty cool. So obviously folks have watched
highlights and you know there are so many people doing
draft evaluations. But if if some but he maybe didn't
get a chance to watch a ton of you at
Texas A and M give me a scouting report. What
do you bringing to the table.
Speaker 10 (23:07):
Someone of those saying fast, violent, with a high motor
and plays moltiple. Actually, all the visions across the line
and give it time.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Is there somebody that as you have honed your skills,
you've tried to kind of pattern yourself after.
Speaker 10 (23:29):
I've always seen Nick Botha and Julius.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Jeffers Nick both pretty good picks. That's pretty good, pretty
good guys to watch. What do you like about both
of them?
Speaker 12 (23:39):
Man?
Speaker 10 (23:39):
I just like how he says everything up off power.
You know, everything he does starts with power and he
just counters off that. And I feel like if like
I could do the same thing, I just need to
be more affected like you guy.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
So you obviously you went to the combine and what
you dare, what you did, they're off the charts, some
of the most impressive measurables we've seen from any player
at your position ever. And then you meet with teams,
and teams will say, you know, look, we love the trades,
we love the athleticism. Uh, you're you're constantly getting past
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your blocker. We want to know why maybe it didn't
quite up quite pile up as many sacks as possible.
What would you tell teams when they asked you.
Speaker 10 (24:21):
That, I, you know, we there's my you're ask us
my first official year starting h am I pup of that,
we had a very stack d line, Like I feel
like we had the best line in the in the country,
and you know, people who are coming in not trying
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to pass the ball against this. But of course I
could definitely work on my skills on the way to
the quarterback to make sure I get those things when
I do get there. And I feel like there's one
thing that I had to sass, But it's another thing
to say I can't get there altogether because I let
my team in pressures for two years straight.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
So is it just a matter of Look if I
if I pressure the quarterback as often as I did,
if I'm in the backfield as often as I was
in college, the sacks are gonna come.
Speaker 14 (25:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Uh what else? Look, you get to the next level,
you got to develop what areas of your game just
over the course of the next five months. Are you
hoping to improve on my passion?
Speaker 10 (25:24):
I'm definitely gonna work about passion that could you know
missing those facts.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Or could not?
Speaker 10 (25:28):
Definitely a big none, especially in this league, you miss
a stack of big pase coming off of it. We
definitely that.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
What do you know beyond maybe the surface level stuff?
I heard you during the press conference, talk about you
know the Bengals do contend for Super Bowls, and you
obviously know McKinley Jackson. What else do you know about
your new team?
Speaker 10 (25:52):
Uh, I'm not gonna lie to you. Not much, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
You?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Uh, all right, Well, so do you know anything about
Do you know anything about Cincinnati?
Speaker 10 (26:10):
No, I've never been here. I actually been to Ohio
one time and I was going rid of the Ohio babe.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
All right, Well, I have to bring that up because
Buckeye fans are listening. Why why didn't you want to play?
Why didn't you want to play in Columbus?
Speaker 14 (26:24):
Uh?
Speaker 10 (26:25):
They took somebody over me.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Really, Yeah, so there was no room for you at
Ohio too. Well, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Well, listen,
I know you have to do a bunch of these. Congratulations.
It's an awesome moment regardless of where you go. To
have your name called in the first round of the draft.
You bring a lot to the table. We wish you
nothing but the best this coming season, and uh, enjoy
(26:49):
the coming days and weeks because I'm sure it's gonna
be a handful. Hopefully you get a chance to enjoy
it as it get used to being a pro football player.
Thanks so much, Samar, thank you, you got it. Shamar Stewart, Texas,
A and M in Cincinnati kind enough to join us
this afternoon, and we thank the Bengals for helping make
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the qu he knew what was coming. His best answer
was the question about, you know, not getting a lot
of sacks. He had to know it was coming. I'm
sure you're not just getting it from radio hosts, man,
I'm sure he got it from a lot of teams
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we see the measurables, we see the analyticism, we see
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We don't see the sacks. And good for him for
answering it the way he did. Hopefully he gets a
lot more like I think a lot of us want
to be wrong about this, right Like, in an ideal world,
we talk about this in January or February and go,
you know what they nailed. What they have done, not
(29:03):
just with last night, but with this offseason is done
something that I can not recall them ever doing. We'll
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We just talked with Shamar Stewart. Now we're gonna chat
with somebody who watched to play every single down at
Texas A and M. We used to have on our
show all the time. Kyle Caski, former Bengals running backs
(32:25):
coach now working for the Saint Louis BattleHawks at A
proud Texas A and M alum. So this morning I
text him, I go, you gotta get me somebody or
help me get somebody or tell me about someone that
can talk about Shamar Stewart. And instantly he's like, you
gotta get on. Billy Lucci Textaggs dot com. This is
the guy. So I texted Billy and he said, yes,
So here he is to talk about Shamar Stewart. Billy
(32:47):
Lucci Textaggs dot com. I appreciate the time, Billy, how
are you?
Speaker 14 (32:51):
Oh, I'm good. My mankski how I'm gonna let him down.
So hopefully this would be a good, little informative segment.
There's a lot of I'm sure there's a lot of
build up from him, so I gotta live up there.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Yeah a lot. Yeah, so high standards. We've set the
bar high. How good is Shamar Stewart.
Speaker 14 (33:11):
He's he's first of all, I'm gonna say this, he's
better than if you watch that NFL draft last night
and hear what they say, and he's better than advertised,
you know, in terms of what he's done on the
football field. I feel like there's a little bit of
a I think everyone's right when they say his upside
(33:35):
is off the charts, you know, they you know, I've
seen the Daniel Hunter comparison, physical free top one percent
of athletes at that position, rare, what he.
Speaker 10 (33:46):
Can do, all of those things.
Speaker 14 (33:49):
But I feel like in the process they look at
that sack total. We talked about that the second. I'm
sure you're gonna want to, but I think they forget
that this was pretty good SEC defensive end this year,
and by pretty good, I mean pretty damn impactful. I
think a lot of it has to do more with scheme.
Had he been in a more cut the d N lose,
(34:12):
let him attack, be really disruptive, try to get in
the backfield and maybe take more risks. I think that
would have been that's kind of like what Miles Garrett
did at A and M, and that was that scheme
under Elko is more of a guy that like if
you Bobby Brown, de Marvin Leal, these type guys that
(34:36):
the numbers sacked numbers of the end. You know, it
took Michael Clemens until his senior year to really put
that up. I think Shamar Stewart was pretty darn good
against the run. He's a tough dude. He played all
year with a I'd see him after games. Clearly had
a stinger that he was working through during most football
(34:59):
games on the sidelines when he wasn't and they played
hurt most of his junior year. And he was third
team All SEC. And I know a lot of times
you're not going to sit there and go, oh wow,
third team All conference, but that's in the Southeastern Conference.
That means one of the top you know, they viewed
him as one of the top six defensive ends in
the league. And I think his best football absolutely is
ahead of him with the right coaching.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
So you mentioned the one and a half sacks and
four and a half over three seasons, and you're right,
that's what everybody here has has focused on What's weird
about it is thirty nine pressures and we just had
him Onnitor. He went out of his way to mention
like I led my team thirty nine pressures. It's almost
mathematically impossible to have thirty nine pressures in just one
and a half sacks. So he's he's beating his guy
(35:42):
at the point of attack, he's shedding blockers, he's at
least running past somebody who's trying to block him. Is
it just a matter of him not being able to finish? Why?
Why was the sack total so low relative to the
amount of times that he put pressure on the opposing quarterback.
Speaker 14 (35:57):
I think he's a couple of things. And I think,
first of all, you know, I don't think he's going
to be a von Miller or Miles Garrett when you're
thinking of Texas, A and m like, those guys just
had that natural something different that most even NFL rushers
just do not have. And I don't think Schamar's necessarily
(36:18):
got He's been he was so kind of one dimensional
early in his career with a power just a bull rush,
and it was really effective. But I felt like early
in his career he's pretty one dimensional. As a pass rusher,
he's evolved since then. But the other thing he's not
that get real load to the ground. Those guys that
(36:39):
almost bend the edge. They look like they're almost coming
in at a you know, sub forty five degree angle,
and you wonder how they're even keeping their feet. And
I'm you're talking about the most special of the specials, right,
And I got to see two of them at A
and M and in Vaughan and Miles. He's not that,
but he's got some real natural pass rush ability and
(37:00):
real h just truly explosive athleticism, like gifted, gifted to
the point that guy's scouts by say, guys, scouts have
been telling me for two years like this dude's going
to be a first round pick. And I had a
guy tell me before this season like he looked like Clowney.
(37:23):
He's athletic like Clowney, but he's a lot more flexibility
than Clowney has. And you know, and Clowney had all
the production, there's no doubt. And that's and again, I
don't know how much of that was scheme related. And
if Shamar had he played someone where they just cut
the ends loose, what would happen, but he had those
(37:44):
pressures you mentioned it. I was talking this morning on
the radio. I said, go watch the LSU game. He
was about a whisper away from sacking Jaydon If it
wasn't Jayden Daniels last season, He's got three sacks in
that LSU game. I mean, he it had to have
been so frustrating for him in the entire defense in
NFL fans, now, no, that's Jaden Daniels. But yeah, throughout
(38:09):
his career. Man Elijah Robinson, who recruited him to A
and M out of Miami and was A and M'SD
line coach until he's Syracuse's DC now. And I had
dinner with him right before he left, and we're talking
about this upcoming season, meaning this this past year, and
he said, he said, don't forget Shamar. We were talking
about the defensive line. He goes, Shamar Stuart is like,
(38:33):
he goes. If you watch his last four or five games,
and that was the LSU game the Mississippi State and
there was a few others in there. He said, he's
so close. He should have had like eight sacs in
those four games. He's just turned it up to a
whole other level. So I didn't get the scouts watch
the tape. They see it's in there. But I also understand.
(38:54):
I've talked to Shamar right before the draft, and the
Patriots were showing legit interested four, but really the the Saints,
I think it was the forty nine ers, Saints Cowboys
showing a ton of interest in his You know, I
don't think the Bengals ever came up, but the Saints,
forty nine Ers, Cowboys. I know people on a couple
(39:16):
of those teams, and they were very, very high on them.
He could have gone five six picks higher, and in
a couple instances, I think they took other pass rushers.
And I get it, Like I I understand if you're
in the NFL and you're taking the top ten or
twelve fifteen pick and you're going, eh, gosh, I just
(39:38):
I wish I could see six facts a year for
the last three years, I feel a lot better. So
I understand the hesitation. But that's where the Bengals could
be big winners here. If you know they they didn't
flinch where others did. And maybe the Bengals, I don't know,
maybe they flinch it ten with other guys on the board.
(39:58):
Maybe they don't, maybe they were just sitting there hoping
he fell to him. But I think this will be
a really interesting pick to follow, not just for Bengal fans,
but for the teams that passed him up too. So.
And here's the other thing. I don't know if you
guys have heard this or I deal with these guys
a lot, and now in the NIL era, they come
(40:19):
in and do interviews way more so than in recent
college football history, where the you know, everything's tried to
kept in house and it's really tame and filtered and
not fun to cover if you're covering the individual players,
Like I didn't get to interview Miles a lot one
(40:40):
on one. Now I circumvented that just because I knew
guys over the year. Shamar Stewart has really in the
last three years from when he got to A and M.
He's a pleasure to work with and he's a great
presence in that building, whether it's you know, position meetings,
(41:03):
in the weight room, just hanging I see him down
there sometimes I go in there to go interview coaches
or something. I walk in he's hanging out in the
lobby of the football building talking to the staff down there,
like you know, the lobby, your people working down there.
He's just big, smile, good energy, hard worker. Like I said,
he plays hurt. There are a lot of things to like,
(41:25):
and I get it. People nitpick the lack of stack
numbers and I understand that four and a half in
three years. It's definitely something that catches your attention. But
if I'm a Bengal fan, I'm going thirty nine pressures.
If he'd have finished another ten of those and had
twenty nine pressures and fifteen sacks in his three years,
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he might have been a top five pick.
Speaker 10 (41:48):
So if you're a Bengal.
Speaker 14 (41:49):
Fan, I'd be sitting there going, okay, let's see if
we got to steal here, because it's very possible that
that's the case.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
He he mentioned versatility. How much did they move him around?
Speaker 14 (42:04):
Not a whole lot. And I think he can. I
think he I think he absolutely can. Like I think
Shamar is going to grow more in terms of you know,
just fill out going from you know, he just finished
his third year of college. In another couple of years,
I think he might have another you know, ten twelve
(42:24):
pounds of muscle on him. If not, if not more
than that. He's he's a specimen and he can play.
They'd move him a little bit where he'd be inside,
but they had a lot of versatility. There a guy
that's going to get drafted today in Shamark Turner earlier
(42:45):
in his career played end and he was versatile, and
then they moved him into be a smaller inside guy.
He's like muscled up, not a fat guy. Inside guy
that could play inside or out. So there was a
lot of versatility, and I think that kept Shamar from
being you know, used like that because he have to.
But I've seen him drop, I've seen him, you know
(43:07):
from every once in a while, you see him standing up.
But they had guys that couldn't do what Shamar could do,
and it kept them from really throwing him around because
there were guys that couldn't sit there and set the
edge like he can. He was he's a he is
athletically like a a you know, finesse pass rushing edge freak.
(43:33):
When you see him, you know, like, gosh, that guy
looks exactly like you want to see him. Look like
ten out of ten. He runs exactly like you see him,
want to run, jump, change the direction, all that stuff,
but when he plays, he plays more like a hand
in the dirt grinder guy. And I just think with
(43:54):
NFL coaching and the amount of time they can spend
with him, you you let the sky perfect another move
or to as a pass rusher, he's going to be
really difficult to stop.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Well, they've they've got Shamar Stewart and McKinley Jackson, so
you know down there, you guys are gonna have to
I guess.
Speaker 14 (44:16):
Now we got Zach Taylor. Zach used to live in
that neighbor. We talk while walking the dog. You know,
Zach's and I mean, Zach here's a crazy I mean,
Bengals fans probably don't care much about this, but it's
pretty interesting. Uh. There was a time period where Dan
Campbell is my roommate all through college. Dan was at
(44:40):
A and M deciding if he was going to coach,
and he was there during the spring, Uh, just kind
of volunteering under Mike Sherman. Zach Taylor was on that
staff as a as a grad assistant at the time.
I don't even know if they were calling him analysts yet,
but Zach Taylor is on the staff. Dan Campbell was
(45:00):
there working with him, you had Johnny Manziel was on
campus red shirting or he was he had just gotten there.
Mike Evans Johnny were on campus I think red shirting.
But then you had Jake Matthews number six pick, Luke
(45:20):
Jokols and who was the number two overall pick. There
was a lot of coaching and player talent on that
A and M roster at that time. And Cedric a
boy he was there as well. He was in that
recruiting class who was a former Bengal first round draft pick.
So it was an interesting time at A and M
Cerka about twenty eleven or so.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Yeah, yeah, sounds a lot like it. I can't thank
you enough for doing this. I'll tell Kyle you knocked
it out of the park and if they draft any
more Aggies you'll hear from you. Man. Thanks so much.
Speaker 14 (45:53):
All right, man, I appreciate you. Thanks well, You've got it.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
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were in the CONCACAFF Champions Cup, a lot of travel,
a lot of matches in a short amount of time,
players getting injured, players not coming back as soon as
they would have liked from injuries they suffered last year,
some guys having to take off to go play for
their national teams. And yet Pat and his staff did
more than just keep things afloat. This team is clearly
(53:04):
in the supporter shield hunt right now. We've talked about
this a lot here, but from your perspective, having been
in pat shoes before, what has it been like watching
him kind of navigate what he's had to work to
the first couple of months of the season.
Speaker 16 (53:17):
I think he's done a phenomenal job because I know
the moment sometimes when you have a roster that is
not complete, that you have a lot of injuries, that
some players haven't arrived, and you have to try to
manage with what you have and stay competitive. And I
think Pat has done a very good job to keep
the team always competitive no matter what with the injuries.
(53:40):
And it feels good when you see that now those
important pieces you start coming back because you start feeling
now that you can put on the seal your best
version of your ideas and what you have in stolen
the players. But you do need, you know, players as
well to be able to give you the best version.
(54:01):
And I think we're starting to see now with Cincinnati, uh,
you know, playing a little more free, playing a little
bit more confident, understanding exactly what pad in the staff
one from them, And it's been fun to watch and
I think, you know, it's definitely showing early and off
at this time that it's going to be a team
(54:22):
that is going to compete to the top of the table.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
Yeah, obviously tied for the most points right now in
the Eastern Conference and one behind Vancouver in the overall
point table. You look a little bit lower and you
see Kansas City, the team that have c Cincinnati plays tomorrow.
Where does f C Cincinnati have an advantage over them?
Speaker 19 (54:46):
First of all, these are the tricky, the tricky games,
these other games that usually you have to pay a
little bit more attention because it's very easy to underestimate
sometimes those teams that are in the bottom.
Speaker 16 (55:00):
And especially this team that at the moment is trying
to uh survive and and and reinvent himself things.
Speaker 2 (55:09):
Uh.
Speaker 16 (55:09):
Peter left the team.
Speaker 14 (55:11):
Uh. And the reality is.
Speaker 16 (55:13):
That they look they look very last game, they put
a very strong performance, and I think the confidence is
growing uh in a in a Kansas city. So I
believe that this is a very tricky game. This is
a tricky a game that needs to be pay attention
with the players playing at the highest level and now
(55:34):
as a team that is on the first place, these
are the games that you have to win, that you
have to show and make a statement that as soon
as you enter into the game that you have to
make sure that you don't give any opportunities to the
team that is in front of you in order to
make sure that you can in some way, you know,
manage the game at your your favor. But it's going
to be definitely a very very difficult game.
Speaker 1 (55:58):
Yeah. Uh, we call it a trap game. Right, they've
been on a roll, they're at home, they're playing a
team a little bit lower on the table than they are.
These are the sort of matches where you've got to
get three points from our perspective, hopefully they do that tomorrow.
It's been great, have you, Gina, having youugh go, I
appreciate the time. Thanks so much.
Speaker 14 (56:17):
Always a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (56:18):
All the best, Take care you likewise. Giovanni Savareici, the
former head coach of the Portland Timbers, now an analyst
for MLS Season Pass on Apple TV. Of course, the
match tomorrow could be heard on ESPN fifteen thirty. All right,
we pretty much are going to go wall to wall
mostly draft between now and six o'clock. We do have
(56:40):
to chat with one of one of our experts from
Ortho Cincy. We had to move this back to today.
We usually do it on Wednesday or Thursday. We got
to talk about Tyler Stevenson, We got to talk about
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Your starting lineup tonight for Cincinnati, Friedel McClain is dhing,
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second tonight, Wins is catching, and Blake done in right field.
I mentioned FC Cincinnati. They're playing at home tomorrow at
(57:46):
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we had Shamar Stewart on the show earlier today. If
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James Rapine on our show yesterday correctly mocked Shamar Stewart
to the Bengals. What does he make of the decision
to take him with the seventeenth overall pick and what
does he expect the Bengals to do tonight. We'll get
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Thirty Tracy the Red Cident off day yesterday. They are
back at it tonight with the final stop of this
three city road trip where they open a series against
the Rockies at Course Field. Again, it almost is if
we sound redundant, but the lack of consistent offense, the
lack for me, which is really alarming, is effective relief pitching.
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I mean, they've lost a number of games because the
bullpen could.
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Not hold the lead. I know, but we're always negative.
I'm alive here. I come to the rescue. I'm sure
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I watched so much baseball on this last road trip
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kind of like Lance McAllister. But that's a whole other issue.
But the Reds need to get fat here. And what
I mean by this people, you got the Rockies, you
got the Cards, and you got the National I look
through the schedule. This is the weakest part of the schedule.
I know it's nine games, but I think it's important
for the Reds to get it going.
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They For me, you can't go into Miami and lose
two out of three. Now, if you are a legitimate contender,
then you have to beat these teams that are supposed
to lose. And again they had one of those games
where they had the lead and the bullpen could not
hold it. But as you say, they've got to start
figuring out some things, and I know Tito and his
(01:00:54):
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and try and figure out how to straighten things out.
We'll be back more of this in just a moment
before the other Reds your home tonight. They've got there
are a beginning the final three games away from home
before they come home next week to play the Cardinals.
There are certain individuals that I think you have to
(01:01:14):
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that immediately come to mind, or Alexa Diaz, he had
an absolute catastrophic relief pitching performance on the road trip,
and the other guy's Candelario. I mean, they sunk a
lot of money into this guy. He's not hit, he's
a question on defense, and they really have to figure
out what they're going to do down the road with
(01:01:35):
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And I'll tell you why when I sit there and
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than the Mendeza line. He's just really struggling. I don't
know what you do with him because you're not going
to eat it because he still has another year.
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I mean, would you eat fifteen? It's easy for.
Speaker 6 (01:02:00):
Me to say because it's not my money. No, I
just I don't agree to disagree with you at all.
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You know what, I'd have that guy selling popcorn in
the stands before I paid him that fifteen million dollars
to go away.
Speaker 6 (01:02:10):
You know what, anything about the Mendoza line, I did
it with the Giants. You sounded like that you were
familiar with it. That's the only reason I asked, because
I can't quote your careers season by season.
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Hey, on a serious note, real quick, Dela Cruz on
the delayed still at Baltimore, I really start diving in.
First of all, people, you don't know what a delayed
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who isn't fast, so you kind of try to catch
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Those guys never had a delayed steal. Then on the
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No no delay on that one.
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No no delay.
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Never seen it from a fast runner.
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Have you ever seen a play like he made up
the middle of that dive for the take a base
at away.
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He does a lot of things.
Speaker 6 (01:03:08):
I mean his red footer cent it's the greatest play
ever behind him in his career as a.
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Picture, I've seen him make so many good plays going
back down the left field line.
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He can really cover some ground.
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dot com. He has been busy. He was with us yesterday.
He successfully mocked Shamar Stewart to the Bengals at seventeen overall,
he's uh, let's see, we got Bengals talk dot com.
He locked on Bengals entered the jungle and pretty much
at our beck and call whenever we ask, not just
on this show, but pretty much at any iHeart station,
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our friend James or Penis here. How many interviews have
you done.
Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
Today with with iHeart? Three?
Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Yes?
Speaker 10 (01:05:32):
Three?
Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Where are you right now?
Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
I'm walking I'm actually going to I'm walking to another
interview at Great American Boss because nothing since NFL Draft
by Great Americans pool.
Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
Uh it is it's uh, it's it's known for that
in October baseball. So very good. All right, Well, I
appreciate you joining us on your walk. Uh, we said
yesterday we talked about this. You brought it up. Whoever
they took was was going to carry with them A yeah,
butt right, yeah, but medicals yeah, but character yeah, but
(01:06:08):
you know, the production's not there, but the physical traits are. Yeah,
but the productions there, but the physical traits are. Whatever
it is, there was going to be a yeah, but
there's a yeah, but with Shamar Stewart, should that be
what we're focusing on or should we be focusing on
those immensely impressive physical traits.
Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
All of the about? I think that's that's what I'm
I think it's all about.
Speaker 18 (01:06:31):
Because you can you can fall in love with the
traits and then get to the yeah, but and then
focus on one or the other. And I think that's
where people are, like on social media and really the
fan bey. There was a guy we were getting on
the elevator yesterday. I wrote about this after aj Green
talk as part of the Bengals draft party, and the
(01:06:53):
guy was like anyone with Shamar Stewart and and like
that's how a lot of people feel because of the
lack of production, because they they're focused on that one.
Speaker 14 (01:07:02):
Side of things.
Speaker 18 (01:07:03):
But when you look at the the entire profiles, everything
he is and everything he's been and hasn't been. This
is a It is a gamble on the Bengals, or
by the Bengals, on their coaching staff, on their evaluation,
and on Chamar and the thing that they're gambling on.
(01:07:25):
I would rather gamble on than some of the other
flaws that I think we're in this draft at seventeen overall,
because I think it's there's a realistic path to seeing
him be this awesome player for you, and he's so
physically gifted. More than even if he doesn't get there,
he's still going to be a quality starter. Like as
(01:07:46):
long as he comes in works hard.
Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
I think he's got a pretty high more just because
he's so physically gifted, and we have no reason to
believe that he wouldn't work hard, because he touched every
character box that you look for.
Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
I try to focus on this because you know me,
like I'm a I'm an optimistic guy. I try to
go glass half full. He had thirty nine pressures last year. Yes,
he only had one and a half sacks, but that's
almost mathematically impossible. It's almost a statistical anomaly that he
has that many pressures. And doesn't get to the quarterback.
(01:08:23):
That I'm going to go ahead and assume and understanding.
You know, applying pressure as a pro is a lot
different than applying pressure in college, just because of the
level of competition. If he consistently applies pressure in the NFL,
the sacks will come. Am I am I being two
rose colored looking at things that way?
Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
No, No, you're not in I think the facts will
come because he's going to learn to get better at finishing.
And I think that comes with work ethic as much
as I don't think. You look at him the measurables
and you want to look at highlights or anything in
the tweed, you look at this guy and you see
(01:09:03):
him and they're like, all right, well.
Speaker 18 (01:09:04):
Clearly he's checking all the boxes that you need in
the chest, So why can't he get to the quarterback?
Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
Of course he came, and so I think they do need.
Speaker 18 (01:09:12):
To figure out how to get him to finish the
technique element of it. But there's no reason to believe
that they can't get that out of him. This is
it's a honestly, it's a bet that I think a
lot of people would make if they had the full
picture and there are a lot of people that look
at it and just see to one and a half
(01:09:32):
sacks and completely zone out. And I don't think it's
that that simple. And I don't think that it's a
simple but he's just a ben tackling player, because I'm
not sure how accurate that is, even though some of the.
Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Metrics says.
Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
If Walter Nolan would have been there, is he the pick?
Speaker 14 (01:09:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
I think so, yeah, I think they would have taken
most certainly. I think he's a guy that we identified
and talked about every much way and.
Speaker 18 (01:09:59):
There's a reason why.
Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
I mean they they liked No One a lot. They
thought that that I mean, they were gonna make him.
I think they would have probably made him the first
defensive tacking kicks in the first round since ninety ninety four,
right second of my lifetime, and so they thought really
highly of him. But I think they thought really highly
of from Mark Stewart too, And this isn't day I've
(01:10:22):
seen something compared to Frank rag now early Trice. I
don't think this is it at all. I think they
were really comfortable with Samar Stewart's talents. I just think
from an almost a need stampin that kind of breaks
the tie because they've they've been longing for that interior
pass rush, and that's what Walter Nolan was. It is,
(01:10:42):
and clearly they had no one I had a harmon
and so that it's one of those things. He didn't
get to you, and I wasn't expecting him to get
to them, and he thought other than I thought.
Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
All right, let's look ahead to tonight. If things full
the way you expect between pick number thirty three and
pick number forty eight, who's there at forty nine that
I really really want?
Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
Oh man, it's so interesting to me because right.
Speaker 18 (01:11:15):
Now I look at who's there, and I'm I'm pretty
not excited about some of these guys.
Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
That I thought would be first rounders. And they can't
even worry really in on him. If he's somehow there
at forty nine, I would imagine the Bengals are in
on him too. I think they really liked him every
not as much as Malak Starts, but liked him and
and so yeah, he's there, I would be really interested
in him. I'll just stick with the safeties. I wrote.
(01:11:42):
Position by position, I think Kevin Winston Junior out of
Penn State is very much in play.
Speaker 14 (01:11:47):
I picked forty nine.
Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
Xavier Watts obviously plays for al Gold met Notre Dame.
Al Goldon loves him. It seemed like a fit the
moment they hired Now Gold Xavier Watch is going to
be at angles. Could totally see that happening, So I
tick forty nine. Now there are other guys that stand
out here. Could they do will Johnson out at Michigan
if he's somehow falls to forty nine and there's some concern,
(01:12:10):
a long term concern about his knee. I think the
Bengals view ended a really high end corner that felt
it wasn't in a lot of mocks fooling this far,
So you can look often as long as they don't
have a huge medical concerns that some of these teams do,
maybe they take him at forty nine. I think Tate
Rattlidge has been arguably the most popular second round MOX
(01:12:30):
player to the Bengals on every simulator. Tate Rattlidge is
certainly in the mix. Jonas Evaia is in the mix
as well. So now we're getting into the guard position.
I think Dylan, excuse me, I think another guy out
of Georgia, Jared will does Jared Wilson, and then there's
god Dylan Fairchild as well, So I think all three
(01:12:52):
Georgia linemen could be in the mix. With fair Child,
you could see him maybe being at eighty one forty nine.
But yeah, I think you gotta leave tonight with Ignard,
especially you look at the division and what the division like,
multiple defensive tackles. Yeah, it's it's pretty important, I think
to add a quality guard tonight. So maybe they do
(01:13:13):
it at forty nine. Maybe they trade back and do it.
Maybe it happened in eighty one, but they got.
Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
To get more. One more, and I'll make it about
Shamar Stewart. So what a lot of people have focused
on in the aftermath of last night is how he
answered the question about his meetings with the Bengals where
he couldn't recall their conversation during the combine, which I
gotta be honest with you, that doesn't bother me. He's
at the combine, he's talking to a lot of different teams.
(01:13:39):
I'm sure his head is spinning like one runs into
the other. That doesn't bother me. Others will take that
on top of the fact that he didn't take a
thirty visit and go, look, they made a pick based
on limited information. What would you say about that?
Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
That just because he.
Speaker 18 (01:13:57):
Didn't remember in the moment the Combine visit, that mean
he doesn't remember it. I asked him about that today
and he recalled a conversation with Jerry Montgomery.
Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
He was in the seat of the draft and Green
Bay where there's a bunch of people around him and
he gets pulled on a conference room and have to
talk to us that a conference call, like I did,
not specifically remembering the Angles coaches and having a specific
meeting with the Cincinnati Bengals, because all the coaches probably
blended together by the end in his mind. And so
(01:14:27):
that's how I would look at that now. I would
say as far as the thirty visit, a lot of
these study visits are we have questions about players and
you bring him in to get a little bit more,
to look at the medicals more and to get more information.
Maybe they didn't need more information, and usually it's a
negative thing or of thoughts that you need to check
(01:14:49):
to give that player that thumbs up. And clearly he
was a pain enough prospect talking about the end, but
that yeah, but with him getting concerned. I'm to bring
him in for a thirty visits, so I don't have
any doubts there or any words.
Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
I know you are very busy. I can't thank you enough.
Enjoyed the rest of this weekend. I'm guessing you'll hear
from me soon. Thanks so much.
Speaker 14 (01:15:16):
Yeah, wait, thanks much.
Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
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Duke Tobin on Monday made it known I want to
trade down. They didn't trade down last night. I think
they would have liked to have traded down. I think
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they tried to trade down. But if you understood that
that was not a likelihood, and you understand and heard
what Duke Tobin had to say on Monday, and if
you know anything about their history in the second round,
I think you're paying close attention tonight for a trade.
They have traded back in round two, five to the
last eight drafts, and Duke Tobin kind of made it
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known on Monday to do it again. So does that
happen tonight? This has always been the place where if
you're like me, if you're like a lot of us,
he thought this draft would be best if they had
more than six picks in round two is where that is.
I think it's fair to say most likely for that
to happen. There are some names that we have talked
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about a lot, nick Eman Worry, the safety from South Carolina.
I think there are a lot of evaluators who would
be surprised that he is still there in round two.
My guess is he is nowhere close to there at
forty nine. But as Paul Danner Junior points out today
in The Athletic, Emon Worry did come to Cincinnati on
a thirty visit, which Shamar Stewart did not. I think
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he'd be interesting to pay attention to, but my guess
is he's not going to make it to forty nine.
I have had Tate Ratledge as the quote apple of
my eye for a couple of weeks now, and whenever
we have talked about what they may or may not
do in round one, I've always started the conversation by asking,
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are we sure that Tate Ratleige is going to be
there at forty nine? Because if so, I'm good with that,
and I think most of us would be if he
ends up being the pick six seven three oh eight
thirty seven starts a guard in the conference in the
SEC started next to a Marius Mimes. It just you know.
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Dane and I talked about this on Tuesday, James and
I yesterday as well. The best fit, like you know,
fit is used. That word is used so often during
this process. If you're talking like offensive lineman fit, Tate
ratlie feels like the guy the Xavier watch, the safety
from Notre Dame. Obviously the Al Golden connection there is
going to be worth talking about. Jared Wilson has been
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talked about a lot, a guy who played center at
Georgia but has played or could play all three offensive
line positions. We'll see. But if we're doing the wish
list thing, you know, we keep beating the same drum.
At some point it feels like they're going to take
a guard and if you don't take one round two, fine,
we'll talk ourselves into whoever they take in round three.
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But I've said this often for the last month. I
want to build any lead offensive line, and I think
the best way to do that is to nail it
as early in the draft as possible. And I think
Tate Ratlage, as much as maybe he's not Tyler Booker,
I think that would represent nailing it. We will see again.
ESPN Radios coverage of the NFL Draft starts at seven
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o'clock tonight, Bengals at forty nine and eighty one in
rounds two and three with three picks tomorrow, and we'll
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then we do a couple of offseason shows here and
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