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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, some of these Democrat judges have been judge and jury,
haven't they? They sure have. I mean, you think of
the guy, the federal judge trying to reverse the Trump
deportation flights, who's now holding them or threatening to hold
them in contempt of court for not turning those planes around.
That's just I mean, that's just one example. As they said,
seventy five percent of the judges hearing legal challenges to
(00:21):
President Trump's executive orders and other policy actions were Democrat appointees.
But I think the thing's changed over time is just
how partisan judges have become. John Solomon joins, us editor
in chief of Just the News. I'm old enough to
remember time, John, where you didn't necessarily know that the
judge was a Democrat or a Republican because they didn't
(00:42):
make these kinds of partisan rulings. They ruled based on
the law.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, that's exactly right. And also we had judges who
didn't look at the political affiliation of the defendant or
the plaintiffs. They simply look at the evidence. But today
that's no longer the case. And we've seen a decade
of this sort of building up, started with the FBI
and the Justice Department. But today that same politicalization is
in the courts, and it facilitated a little bit in
(01:08):
the way that the lawyers seeking to sue the Trump
administration go about their business. This new statistic that came
out of a university legal policy research unit showed that
three quarters of the judges you've gotten the Trump lawsuits,
the lawsuit challenging Trump's executive powers, have been appointed by Democrats.
(01:29):
That's kind of unusual because there's about a fifty to
fifty split in the judiciary when you look across all judges.
So how does that happen. Well, judges are on a wheel,
so the next person up gets the next case. And
what you see and what this statistic really shows is
that there is judge shopping and venue shopping going on,
meaning that lawyers wait and file in a specific city
(01:51):
at a specific time hoping to get the best Democrat
leaning judge or the most favorable policy judge for themselves.
And I think that that's another part of the system
that's beginning to be get rigged. And so you have
venue in judge shopping, and then that begins a process
that fills the most Americans like it's very partisan and
very crooked, and I think there will be a lot
(02:13):
of reforms that Congress will be considering when they get
back from the easter break to address this. Perhaps the
first is stopping single judges from being able to impose
nationwide injunctions. They're going to limit these judges, at least
the House plans to limit these judges to injunctions that
only apply to the plaintiffs in their case and only
(02:33):
to the geographic district that they serve in on the bench.
And so this is going to lead to some reform.
But the statistic, I think is a good picture of
the symptom that we're seeing.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Well, we hope it leads to reform. You know, first
of all, Congress has to act, and that's easier said
than done these days, getting them to actually do something.
That's number one. But the number two thing comes to
me is that, you know, again, these judges don't seem
to have any They don't care right that their decisions
are likely on appeal are going to get overturned or
(03:07):
at least by the time it gets the Supreme Court.
And they probably know that in advance, most of them don't.
They they're just part of the delay tactic.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, it could very well be. Let's just take Judge Bosberg,
perhaps the most famous judge, a guy who was on
the Vice Court for a long time, the chief judge
of the Vice a Court for two very critical years
right after the Russia collusion story blew up. Of course,
there are a lot of abuses in the fight of
reform system during that time. He's the judge that gave
a slap on the hand to the FBI lawyer who
(03:35):
admitted that he had doctored evidence in the Russia collusion case,
didn't send him to prison, really gave him a tap
on the hand for punishment. He then comes up on
the wheel and he gets to be the judge in
the deportation case. And you have plaintiffs that are from Texas,
and he should never take this case. The case is
(03:55):
filed in the District of Columbia. There's no geographic or
legal connection into the District of Columbia. He takes the case.
He rules in favor of the plaintiffs and against Trump,
and in violation of a nineteen forty eight US Supreme
Court decision that said President Trump would have such powers.
And there's very little judicial review except for a habeas
(04:16):
corpus petition. He gets reversed. The Supreme Court two weeks
ago reverses him and says, one, you had no right
to take the case. It belonged to Texas, not in
the Washington DC area, And two, you didn't pay attention
to our nineteen forty eight were ruling. Really, so he
gets reversed on both accounts. He slapped down, and yesterday
he resurfaces, even though the Supreme courts told him you
(04:37):
shouldn't have this case at all, he starts content proceedings
against the Trump administration. Pretty remarkable. I think it tells
you a lot about what these judges are doing and thinking.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
It's just it's amazing. It is flabbergasting to me that
do you have federal judges who are basically giving the
finger to the United States Supreme Court. That is just
I can't get over that. That's just crazy.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Pretty remarkable, But it does seem to be the way
the system is tilting right now. Something large is gonna
have to do. The House is already passed legislation to
address this. Senator Chuck Grousey's taking it up in the Senate.
We'll see what happens. One possibilities this reform gets slipped
into the big beautiful bill, as President Trump likes to
call the Continuing Resolution in the spring. But Congress is
(05:20):
going to have to do something, and you're right, they've
had a hard time doing it.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, they sure have. John Solivon, Thank you, sir. I
appreciate it. Editor in achieve It just the news. John
Sullivan six
Well, some of these Democrat judges have been judge and jury,
haven't they? They sure have. I mean, you think of
the guy, the federal judge trying to reverse the Trump
deportation flights, who's now holding them or threatening to hold
them in contempt of court for not turning those planes around.
That's just I mean, that's just one example. As they said,
seventy five percent of the judges hearing legal challenges to
(00:21):
President Trump's executive orders and other policy actions were Democrat appointees.
But I think the thing's changed over time is just
how partisan judges have become. John Solomon joins, us editor
in chief of Just the News. I'm old enough to
remember time, John, where you didn't necessarily know that the
judge was a Democrat or a Republican because they didn't
(00:42):
make these kinds of partisan rulings. They ruled based on
the law.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, that's exactly right. And also we had judges who
didn't look at the political affiliation of the defendant or
the plaintiffs. They simply look at the evidence. But today
that's no longer the case. And we've seen a decade
of this sort of building up, started with the FBI
and the Justice Department. But today that same politicalization is
in the courts, and it facilitated a little bit in
(01:08):
the way that the lawyers seeking to sue the Trump
administration go about their business. This new statistic that came
out of a university legal policy research unit showed that
three quarters of the judges you've gotten the Trump lawsuits,
the lawsuit challenging Trump's executive powers, have been appointed by Democrats.
(01:29):
That's kind of unusual because there's about a fifty to
fifty split in the judiciary when you look across all judges.
So how does that happen. Well, judges are on a wheel,
so the next person up gets the next case. And
what you see and what this statistic really shows is
that there is judge shopping and venue shopping going on,
meaning that lawyers wait and file in a specific city
(01:51):
at a specific time hoping to get the best Democrat
leaning judge or the most favorable policy judge for themselves.
And I think that that's another part of the system
that's beginning to be get rigged. And so you have
venue in judge shopping, and then that begins a process
that fills the most Americans like it's very partisan and
very crooked, and I think there will be a lot
(02:13):
of reforms that Congress will be considering when they get
back from the easter break to address this. Perhaps the
first is stopping single judges from being able to impose
nationwide injunctions. They're going to limit these judges, at least
the House plans to limit these judges to injunctions that
only apply to the plaintiffs in their case and only
(02:33):
to the geographic district that they serve in on the bench.
And so this is going to lead to some reform.
But the statistic, I think is a good picture of
the symptom that we're seeing.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Well, we hope it leads to reform. You know, first
of all, Congress has to act, and that's easier said
than done these days, getting them to actually do something.
That's number one. But the number two thing comes to
me is that, you know, again, these judges don't seem
to have any They don't care right that their decisions
are likely on appeal are going to get overturned or
(03:07):
at least by the time it gets the Supreme Court.
And they probably know that in advance, most of them don't.
They they're just part of the delay tactic.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, it could very well be. Let's just take Judge Bosberg,
perhaps the most famous judge, a guy who was on
the Vice Court for a long time, the chief judge
of the Vice a Court for two very critical years
right after the Russia collusion story blew up. Of course,
there are a lot of abuses in the fight of
reform system during that time. He's the judge that gave
a slap on the hand to the FBI lawyer who
(03:35):
admitted that he had doctored evidence in the Russia collusion case,
didn't send him to prison, really gave him a tap
on the hand for punishment. He then comes up on
the wheel and he gets to be the judge in
the deportation case. And you have plaintiffs that are from Texas,
and he should never take this case. The case is
(03:55):
filed in the District of Columbia. There's no geographic or
legal connection into the District of Columbia. He takes the case.
He rules in favor of the plaintiffs and against Trump,
and in violation of a nineteen forty eight US Supreme
Court decision that said President Trump would have such powers.
And there's very little judicial review except for a habeas
(04:16):
corpus petition. He gets reversed. The Supreme Court two weeks
ago reverses him and says, one, you had no right
to take the case. It belonged to Texas, not in
the Washington DC area, And two, you didn't pay attention
to our nineteen forty eight were ruling. Really, so he
gets reversed on both accounts. He slapped down, and yesterday
he resurfaces, even though the Supreme courts told him you
(04:37):
shouldn't have this case at all, he starts content proceedings
against the Trump administration. Pretty remarkable. I think it tells
you a lot about what these judges are doing and thinking.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
It's just it's amazing. It is flabbergasting to me that
do you have federal judges who are basically giving the
finger to the United States Supreme Court. That is just
I can't get over that. That's just crazy.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Pretty remarkable, But it does seem to be the way
the system is tilting right now. Something large is gonna
have to do. The House is already passed legislation to
address this. Senator Chuck Grousey's taking it up in the Senate.
We'll see what happens. One possibilities this reform gets slipped
into the big beautiful bill, as President Trump likes to
call the Continuing Resolution in the spring. But Congress is
(05:20):
going to have to do something, and you're right, they've
had a hard time doing it.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, they sure have. John Solivon, Thank you, sir. I
appreciate it. Editor in achieve It just the news. John
Sullivan six
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