PM Show Hr 1 | George Stephanopoulos Forced to Apologize for Lying About Trump

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's that time, time time, time's luck and load. The
Michael Verie Show is on the air.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Well, I mean, November fifth feels like I got my
Christmas present, America got his Christmas present.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Our new year, a new president, a new direction.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
This has been the most consequential election of my lifetime.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
And President Trump's.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Not even in office yet. Everything is changing. They're doing
away with DEI departments. It's like people are coming clean.
Zuckerberg is is begging Trump. It's it's it's amazing the
things that are already happening. Christopher Ray resigning, so many

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wonderful things happening. Well, we had another one, the biggest
story of the day. The ABC network has agreed in
a settlement to pay Donald Trump fifteen million dollars plus
a million dollars in his attorney's fees, and to issue

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an apology for remarks made by George Stephanopoulos during an
interview in March with Republican Congressman Nancy Mace.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
What did he say that caused.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
This this kerfuffle that ABC was scared to death he
would be deposed over so in preparation for a trial,
there's something called called depositions, where each side will depose
the parties on the other side. Well, what happens in

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that deposition will then be entered into evidence at the trial.
So Donald Trump's attorneys were scheduled to depose George Stephanopoulos
and ABC knew that the questions they would ask would

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reveal I believe ABC's bias and the things they did
behind the scenes to hurt Donald Trump, and who knows
what else. We are entering a time of great revelation.
We're going to find out what the FBI has been

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up to. On Friday, the report came out from the
Inspector General that yes, on January sixth, the FBI had
a bunch of confidentials, bunch of confidential sources who who
they were planting around the Capitol and sending into the
Capitol and trying to get people to tear stuff up,

(03:17):
trying to create what they could call an insurrection so
that it would be illegal for Donald Trump's movement to exist.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Beyond that, the FBI wasn't trying to protect America.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
The FBI wasn't trying to prevent anything bad from happening,
and nothing bad would have happened had they not dragged
people into prohibited areas. The whole thing's been a scheme,
The whole thing's been a scam, and it's all being
laid bare. Here is what George Nephanopolis said back in

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March in his interview with Nancy Mace.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Why are you supporting someone who's been found liable for rape? Well, actually,
what you're doing is defending a man who's been found
liable for rape, saying how you can do that? So
you're comfortable with Donald Trump being found liable for rape.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
So he said multiple times that Donald Trump was found
liable for rape. And you know what, a lot of
people probably think that's true. George Stephanopolis didn't he knew
or reasonably should have known, that Donald Trump was not

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found liable for rape. This is an important game they play.
The charge against him related to a payment that this
woman claims she received from Donald Trump years ago, and
how that payment was paid out of which account. All right,

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this is an administrative question. It was never about rape.
He was not charged with rape, He was not adjudicated
to have committed rape.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
It was a purely procedural case.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
But when you claim that he was found liable for rape,
now you have engaged in a terrible defamation, and ABC
knew they were in trouble. So just before George Stephanopolis
was going to be deposed by Trump's lawyers and he

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would have to reveal a lot more than what he
knew and why he said that and who all was involved.
Remember it was the ABC network that ran the debate
against him, that went so one sided against him, you
remember that. And it turned out that the head of
ABC was Kamala Harris's best friend. What were the chances?

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What were the chances? And that was all going to
be revealed. So they said, we'll settle. We'll write a
fifteen million dollar check to the Trump Presidential Library.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
That's not good enough. You got to also pay all
our legal bills a million dollars.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Now, mind you, ABC is gonna have a lot of
legal bills as well, probably far more than a million dollars.
So this thing's probably gonna end up costing them about
twenty million dollars for a statement, not just that he
said it, but his intention in doing so. You cannot

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simply claim that a person committed a crime when you
know good and well they didn't. Let's talk about George
Stephanopolis and who he is for a moment. Do you
remember when he was asked about Bill Clinton's character? Remember
he was Bill Clinton, step and fetch it. He was
his little right hand minion. He was asked about Bill

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Clinton's character and he insisted that Bill Clinton did not
have a character problem.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Governor Clinton has a character problem. But I take it
that you're a line of Clinton has no line of
how to attack it is that it's un well. I
mean he is. He is not denied that he has
engaged in marital infidelity.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
Bill Clinton's passed his character tests throughout his life and
throughout this campaign, and he's too showing it through his
commitments to real fie and what he's going to do
in his campaign is focused on what's important to the
American people, on the jobs and the education.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
That's what the American people care about. What you're going
to learn when today's show, which you may have already known,
is that George Stephanopoulos who said to Congressman Nancy Mace,
you're supporting a man who was convicted of rape. She wasn't.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
How dare you support that man? What you're going to
find out is that Hillary Clinton directed the folks around
Donald Trump to harass threaten and intimidate the women who
went on record as having been victims of Bill Clinton

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and Bill Clinton in some of those cases would end
up admitting that it was true. Oh what a tangled
web we weave when first we practiced to.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Deceive, from Levisians to librarians. Everyone listens to Michael Very Show.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
So George Stephanopolis was an assassin for Bill Clinton. He
destroyed people's characters. He destroyed the character of women who
dared to tell the truth about what Bill Clinton had
done to them. How on earth does Bill Clinton's flunky

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end up.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
In such a powerful position at ABC.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Unless that was the intention, right, The intention was to
put a Bill and Hillary partisan so they could have
incredible influence on who gets elected and what policies are
passed in this country. So I went back to an

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article from twenty sixteen. June eighth, twenty sixteen. It was
written by Vice magazine and it was entitled Believe All Victims,
a primer on Bill Clinton's groping and rape allegations. Let
me read it to you now that Hillary Clinton's Democrat

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nomination for president is all but a done deal. And
mind you, in the summer of sixteen the DNC had
helped her defeat Bernie Sanders. Toolsey Gabbard was number two
at the DNC, and she revealed that Bernie Sanders was
being targeted by the DNC, that he was being cut

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off from the money, that the Democrat National Convention, who's
just supposed to help all the candidates, was solely helping Hillary.
And that's when Julian Assange revealed these details about what
the Democrats were up to to try to frame Donald Trump.

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So this comes at a moment when Hillary is not
only about to be the Democrat nominee, she is projected
to get elected president. It says, it's an apt time
to reflect on what it means, what it could mean
to have her husband, Bill Clinton back in the White House.

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To be sure, over the past decade, there's been a
sea change regarding public accusations of sexual misconduct against high
profile men. Now that we find ourselves in a moment
where the media, police and lawmakers are encouraged to believe victims, first,
what are we to make of the charges against Bill Clinton? Further,
in several incidents, Hillary Clinton not only sprang to her

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husband's defense, but actively tried to discredit the women who
came forward. While Republicans and Trump supporters may use the
Clinton's the bill may use the bill Clinton's sexual misconduct
as ammunition against Hillary's presidential campaign. Bill's treatment of women

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and Hillary's defense of him is a topic any left
leaning voter should consider while heading into the election season.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Let's review.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Rumors of affairs and sexual come ons swirled around Clinton
during his two terms seventy nine to eighty one and
then eighty three through ninety ten ninety two as governor
of Arkansas, but the first significant bombshell to drop publicly

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was during Clinton's campaign for president. In nineteen ninety one,
Jennifer Flowers, a former TV reporter, said she had a
twelve year affair with Clinton and that he told her
to lie about the affair on his behalf when others
grew suspicious. The affair became public when Clinton, then governor,

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gave Flowers a position within the state government. Now we've
gone from a morality question to an illegal question, a
legal question. Charlotte Perry, another woman who had applied for
the position in which Flowers was installed, filed a complaint
with the state, alleging that she had been passed over

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in favor of the governor's mistress, Flowers was called before
a state committee to testify on the matter. According to
siquly recorded tapes later releasese by Flowers, Clinton told Flowers
to lie to the committee and deny their relationship. That
is known in legal terms as suborning perjury, encouraging someone

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to lie.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
In a court of law. That's a crime.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
According to The New York Times, Flowers sold her story
to Star magazine for one hundred thousand dollars after Clinton
announced his bid for president. In response, Bill and Hillary
Clinton went on sixty minutes to.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Deny the allegations.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Bill categorically denied the affair, telling Steve Croft quote that
allegation is false. Moments later, Kroft asked the question a
different way, and Clinton hedged, are you prepared tonight to
say that you've never.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Had an extramarital affair? Croft asked.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Clinton responded, I'm not prepared tonight to say that any
married couple should ever discuss that with anyone but themselves.
I'm not prepared to say that about anybody. The following day,
Flowers called a press conference and played the tape. Hillary

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Clinton publicly denounced Jennifer Flowers as a quote failed cabaret
singer who was questing her quote fifteen minutes of fame.
What happened to believe all women? But here's where George
Stephanopolis enters. In the article Surrogates for Clinton, James Carvill

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and George Stephanopolis went on talk shows to declare the
tapes as fraudulent. Uh oh, some of you will remember this.
They said, she's lying. Those tapes aren't legitimate. So we
have tapes of Bill Clinton telling Jennifer Flowers to lie,

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and they go, those aren't real. Yet in nineteen ninety eight,
under oath for a deposition in the Paula Jones case,
Clinton admitted to sleeping with Flowers. So when he had
gone on sixty minutes, he was lying. He was also

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playing games with words, because that's what Bill Clinton did.
That depends on what the meaning of is is. You'll
recall Clinton emerged from the Flowers scandal unscathed and went
on to win the presidency. What's more, Hillary's strong defense
of her husband gained her favorable reviews in the press

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and among voters. Yeah, the same kind of press that
George Stephanopolis would end up entering. Imagine that it played
well to their home team, But it was the nineteen
ninety four sexual harassment suit brought by Arkansas state employee
Paula Jones that catalyzed a series of events that led
to Bill Clinton's impeachment. More on that, I mean with
his finger on the pulse, The King of Teing continues

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on the Michael Berry Show. They didn't want George Stephanopolis
to have to answer questions under oath. They wanted to
settle this thing and make it stop. And it goes back.
It's this clip six o eight rom It goes back
to what George Stephanopolos said to Congressman Nancy Mace, a Republican,

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earlier this.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Year in March, who was supporting Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Why are you supporting someone who's been found liable for rape? Well, actually,
what you're doing is defending a man who's been found
liable for rape. I don't understand how you can do that.
So you're comfortable with Donald Trump being found liable for rape?

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Three times during that interview he said that, let's play
Chad's flip that has the full two minutes of how
she answered that question.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Here we go, and you've endorsed Donald Trump for president
judges and two separate juries. If i'd him liable for
rape and for defaming the victim of that rape, how
do you scare your endorsement.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Of Donald Trump for the testimony we just saw.

Speaker 5 (17:20):
Well, I will tell you I was raped at the
age of sixteen, and any rate victum will tell you.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
I've lived for thirty years.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
With an incredible amount of shame over being raped. I
and't come forward because of that judgment and shame that
I felt. And it's a shame that you will never feel, George.
And I'm not going to sit here on your show
and be asked a question meant to shame me about
another potential rape victim.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
I'm going to I'm not going to do that. It's
actually not about shaming you. It's a question about no,
you are shaming.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
You've endorsed Donald Trump for president.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Donald Trump has been found liable he goes again by
a jury.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Donald Trump has been found liable for defaming the victim
of that rape a jury. It's been affirmed by a judge.

Speaker 5 (18:02):
It was not at a criminal court. Case Number one,
number two. I live with shame, and you're asking me
a question about my political choices. Trying to shame me
as a rape victim, and I find it disgusting and
quite frankly, Egene Carroll's comments when she did get the judgment,
joking about what she was going to buy. It doesn't

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It makes it harder for women to come forward when
they make a mockery out of rape, when they joke
about it.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
It's not I'm going to come forward with.

Speaker 5 (18:30):
It makes it harder when other women joke about it,
and she's joked about it. I find it offensive. And
I also find it offensive that you're trying to shame me.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
With this question. I'm not trying to show you. I
had dealt with this for thirty years.

Speaker 5 (18:41):
You know how hard it was to tell my story
five years ago when they were doing a fetal heartbeat
bill and there were no exceptions for rape, incestra and
rape or incest in there. I had to tell my
story because no other woman was coming for no rape
victims were represented. And you're trying to shame me this morning.
I find it offensive, and this is why women won't
come forward.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Women won't come forward because they're defamed by those who
perpetrate rape.

Speaker 5 (19:03):
Donald they are judged and they're shame and you're trying to.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Show me this farm start right there. He says women
won't come forward when they're raped because they are defamed
by those who perpetate perpetrate rape. This is the man who,
on Bill Clinton's behalf, at Hillary Clinton's direction, along with

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James Carville, went on every talk show in this country
defaming these women who came forward. Many of them were
dug up, brought out. Let's go back to the story
as being reported by Vice. So remember we got Jennifer Flowers,
who got other women part of all this. So Paula

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Jones was working the registration desk for a conference in
Little Rock, Arkansas in nineteen ninety one. So Bill Clinton
is running for office at this point for the nineteen
ninety two election. Then Governor Bill Clinton was speaking at
this conference. Paula Jones claimed that an Arkansas state trooper

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that's going to be important in plain clothes approached her
and quote delivered a piece of paper to Jones with
a four digit number written on it and said, the
governor would like to meet with you in this suite number,
And there was the number of the suite on the paper. Jones,

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who was a state employee making just over six dollars
an hour. Was excited to meet Clinton, and she thought
it might lead to a better job. Now, let me interject,
I know what you're thinking. A woman should never agree
to go to a private meeting in a private hotel
room with a man. It's not going to be a

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job description, a job discussion. We all know that, right,
we all know what's going to happen. Don't put yourself
in that situation. I'll agree that. Does that mean it's
okay for him to behave inappropriately when she enters a room?
Absolutely not. Absolutely not. So she does go to the room.

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Once in his hotel suite, Paula Jones claimed that after
a bit of small talk, Clinton began to compliment her body,
touch her, and try to kiss her. According to her lawsuit, quote,
he then approached the sofa and as he sat down,
he lowered his trousers and his underwear, exposing his erect

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penis and asked Jones to kiss it. In the complaint,
miss Jones goes on to claim that she quote became
horrified and got up immediately to leave. She described Clinton
quote fondling his penis when he said, well, I don't

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want to make you do anything you don't want to do.
He then stood up and pulled up his pants. He's
in damage protection mode at this point. As she left
the room, he looked sternly at her and said, quote,
you are smart. Let's keep this between ourselves. That's a threat.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Lawyers for Paula Jones, remember.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
This case is slowly working its way through the court system,
started looking for other women who might be making similar
accusations to support her case.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Hey, he did this to her, It's probably a pattern.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
So at that point, I'll summarize what it says here.
They start looking for someone else that he may have
done this too. And there were rumors swirling about Juanita Brodrick,
who said he had bit her lip and said here
put some ice on that. She filed an affidavit as

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Jane Do number five, saying that the rumors at the
time she said were untrue. She would later come forward
and say she was scared and they were true. But
during all of this time, George Stephanopolos was defending Bill
Clinton on national TV and tearing these women down. These

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women were failures, these women were well. He was saying
all sorts of things about their character, and there were
ability to make a living.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
And all sorts of other things. And here he was.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
On national TV now at ABC, the guy who had
done that.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
That should have been a non starter.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
He should have never been allowed to anchor a powerful
what was once a powerful national news organization.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
But he did. But he did, and he tried to
use that power.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Against Nancy Mace because tearing down women is not a
problem for George Stephanoppos. And now ABC will be spending
at least sixteen million dollars with Donald Trump because of it.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
From Portland through Walbeny, all Greek cities in between.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Michael Berry Show is nationwide. So George Stephanoppos, while interviewing
Republican Nancy Mace in March of this year, came out
and said, how can you, as a woman support Donald

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Trump who has committed rape on a woman.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
How can you do that?

Speaker 2 (25:17):
He's been adjudicated, he's been found liable for rape in court. Well,
as you know, that's not true. The case against him,
which was a railroad case, but the conviction was for
an administrative procedural item as to how Jean Carroll was
supposedly paid.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
After the fact.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
It was never a conviction for rape. They wanted you
to believe that, and a lot of people did. But
ABC has a standard. You cannot just say Mitt Romney
was convicted of rape, Barack Obama was convicted of rape.
John McCain was convicted of rape. You can't just say

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that if it's not true. And so Trump knew he
had them. So George Stephanopolis is getting ready to be
deposed where he's going to have to answer a lot
of tough questions far worse than that statement. So they
offered fifteen million dollars to the Trump Presidential Library and

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a million dollars to cover his lawyers. You know, people
tend to hate lawyers. I got that. I got two
law degrees, and I know some people just don't like lawyers.
But you do understand that without lawyers to bring this case,
ABC would never be held to account.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
It's bad lawyers we don't like.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
So George Stephanopolis, this is a guy who has been
carrying the water for Bill Clinton, who is a bad
guy for decades. So here is mister objective newsman, George Stephanopolis,
earlier this year threatening to cut off Will Sharf. Will

(27:14):
Sharf's going to be part of the Trump administration. Sharp
sharp guy Scarf threatening to cut off Trump's attorney, who's
there to defend Trump, that's his job. For claiming that
Alvin Bragg's case against Trump was politically motivated, this is

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what the liberal media does again and again and again.
I don't like what you're saying, so I'm not gonna
let you say it. But I'm defending my client. I'm
saying what I believe to be true. I'm not going
to allow you to say it because I want your
opinion to be silenced, because that don't make it go away.
There is no greater, no greater red flag on your

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views then that you have to silence people who don't
agree with him.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
So here he is.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
And of course the Attorney General in Manhattan has nothing
to do with the Department of Justice. Finally, what do
you expect from the sentencing process?

Speaker 6 (28:16):
I vehemently disagree that the district attorney in New York
was not politically motivated here, and I vehemently disagree that
President Biden and his political allies aren't up to their
necks in this prosecution.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
I think the.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Facts, No, sir, there's no there's I'm not going to
let you can continue to say that there's just zero
evidence of that.

Speaker 6 (28:33):
Well, how about the Colangelo was standing over Alvin Bragg's
shoulder when when he announced this verdict. I mean Colangelow
was the number three official in the Biden Department of
Justice who suddenly disappears and shows up as an assistant
district attorney. Right, is Trump's case in New York starts
to proceed. If you want to talk about you want

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to talk about political court.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Has nothing to do This has nothing to do No,
it's not. This has nothing to do with the President Biden.
Do you want to answer the question about the sentencing
process or not.

Speaker 6 (29:02):
I completely disagree that this has nothing to do with
President Biden with respect to sentencing. As I said before,
we're going to vigorously challenge this case on appeal. I
don't think President Trump is going to end up being
subject to any sentence whatsoever. And we look forward to
getting this case into the next court and taking this
again all the way up to the US Supreme Court
if necessary, to vindicate President Trump's rights.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
So you see the media do this again and again
and again, ask a question, and then when they don't
like the answer, they argue it. They argue it as
if they are a combatant in this battle. If you
criticize Joe Biden's mental state, the media themselves would argue,

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We're not going to allow you to say that, but
you would allow someone to say that Donald Trump's a rapist.
In fact, you said it yourself. Your job as a
member of the media is not to argue with the guest.
Your job is to let your guests state their case.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
If you want to have.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Someone else on to argue with them, fine for Your
job is to ask questions and let them answer. You know,
many times over the years, I have received emails from
people who did not like a guest that I had
on the air, and I should not have allowed that
person to be on the air because now people heard

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what they had to say. And I have said it
one hundred times and I'm gonna say one hundred more.
I allow people on our show with whom I disagree.
The fact that you are a guest on our show
does not mean I endorse one hundred percent of what
you have to say, because this is going to be

(30:53):
a crazy notion here. I strongly believe that you are
smart enough to tell fact from fiction. I believe that
you are smart enough to make decisions for yourself.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Many people don't.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Believe that, including listeners to conservative radio. Some people think
you shouldn't let the other side on to state their
opinion because somebody might be convinced of it.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Only an idiot, Only an idiot, is that simple.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
In a bold move to say the least, after we've
got George Stephanopoulos saying that Donald Trump was a rapist
and that that had been adjudicated in a court of
law that's cost sixteen million dollars to ABC News or
to ABC. Now Here's MSNBC, Simone Sanders Townsend saying that

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what he said.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah, I think it seems to hold up.

Speaker 5 (31:56):
The press is in a difficult position.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Everyone understands that that doesn't.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
Change the obligation to be straightforward and objective when it
comes to Donald Trump.

Speaker 7 (32:05):
I would just say, I mean, this feels like it
has a real chilling effect. Like I mean, shout out
to the standards department. Okay, standards is always making sure
that we are keeping the bar high and substantive, inaccurate.
But what George Sethanopolis said in that interview, I mean.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
It seems to hold up. And with the judge said
after the back, and now.

Speaker 7 (32:24):
He's a news organization and himself, Georgepanopolis himself is paying
a million dollars of his own money to the lawyers, and.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
ABC at fifty million dollars.

Speaker 7 (32:33):
It's insane.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Got caught with your hand in the cookie jar. All
of them evil, evil, lacking any consistency or character.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
And once you understand they will defend Bill Clinton for
things they will accuse others of that they have not done,
you realize that none of what they say do they.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Actually even believe.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
And so with that in mind, when they call you
a rapist, when they call you a racist, when they
call you a xenophobe or a misogynist or an antithyst,
you simply ignore them, and if you feel the need,
perl insults back at them. Because these people are not
to be believed, they're not to be trusted, they're not to.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Be listened to. They are to be destroyed.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
And sixteen million dollars of Donald Trump is well on
the way to destroying ABC.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
I love it.