​PM Show Hr 1 - The Epstein Story Is The Most Consequential Story In A Long Time

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I say this often and I will say it again
most days. Whatever is the top news item, it's not
really consequential. It's entertainment. It's politics as entertainment. Jasmine Crockett
saying what she did yesterday. They gonna pass this budget,

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but we're not gonna vote for it, and they not
gonna be able to get it passed without us. Well
without you, we did, Jasmine. But that's just look, I
get it. You come here, we talk. It's what's happening.
But it's not in the grand scheme of things. It's

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not that important. Any particular thing now they may pile
up to be important. The Epstein List is this is
as consequential a news story and news development as we've
had in a very long time. Because and by the way,

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we're going to be talking about the Epstein List when
other people have moved on, because I truly believe that
this is way bigger than the That's why we're not
a breaking news story. We find stories we think are
important or entertaining, but usually important. For instance, Bill Gates

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was asked about his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein during an
interview with PBS.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
It was reported that you continue to meet with him
over several years and that, in other words, a number
of meetings. What did you do when you found out
about his background?

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Well, you know, I've said I regretted having those dinners.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
And there's nothing, absolutely nothing new on that.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Is there a lesson for you, for anyone else looking
at this?

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Well he's dead, so that's a weird answer. And they
thought the secrets would die with him. What we're going
to find in addition to the perversions that's going to
get all the interest. The interest is the list and
the perversions, okay, but the bigger, more important story is

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who was coordinating this. This cost a lot of money.
It's a lot of work to bring famous people together.
And just like with Diddy, you're going to find that
it's not about the sex, the compromising sex and it
being filmed. The fact that Epstein filmed everything is how

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you know this isn't just a guy who wants to
share his fetishes and perversions with his buddies. This is
about a guy who wants to control the blackmail this
kind of thing. And by the way, it was all
widely known. This was John McCain's widow, Cindy saying everybody

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knew what Epstein was doing.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
These power players a priority for us right now?

Speaker 5 (03:14):
Can we even touch them?

Speaker 2 (03:15):
No?

Speaker 6 (03:15):
It's like everything you know, it hides in plain side.

Speaker 7 (03:19):
Epstein was hiding, playing side.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
We all knew about him, we all knew what he
was doing, but we had no one that would.

Speaker 7 (03:25):
Go after him.

Speaker 8 (03:26):
They were afraid of him for whatever reason they were afraid.

Speaker 6 (03:28):
This is Cindy McCain, the wife of John McCain, admitting
at a conference that everyone knew what Epstein was up to.
And this is the wife of a former Republican presidential candidate.
You know, that's hugely significant to say that it was
just known and that powerful circles did nothing about it.
And so that directly undercuts this whole narrative that you know,
oh it was just Epstein and he conned everyone. But

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this didn't get really any mainstream coverage at all.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
People need to understand the fact that government, the financial world,
typically the banking world, have enabled Jeffrey Epstein's crimes.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Today, D C. Draino, who is one of the guys
I follow on Twitter, went to a meeting with President Trump, J. D.
Vance Pambondi, the Attorney General, and Cash Betel in the
Oval Office, and he said he was handed a binder
of the Epstein files. He says, this is the most
transparent administration of American history. I agree. He said, this
is just the start. Attorney General Pambondi confirmed there are

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thousands more Epstein file documents being secretly held in the
SD and Y and they will be delivered to the
Department of Justice in d C by February twenty eight.
And then he says people will be going to jail
for what they've done. He held up the binder. It's
the Epstein Files, Phase one.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
We've served years of jail and their lives have been ruined.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
That amnicas Joe, listen to me for a second, step interrupting.
Dan Crenshaw has really embarrassed himself badly. He keeps having
these meltdowns where he starts screaming and he says crazy

(05:11):
things and he comes unhinged, and it's quite unbecoming. But
this week he was being interviewed and we played it.
I think we played it yesterday. My days run together
because it's a constant news cycle these days. I mean

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Epstein client list, and you got ten other things going on,
and you know, literally deciding what we're going to talk
about is harder than it's ever been. And one of
the things that we consciously do is talk about things
that are less prominent in the news unless we have
some interesting to say, Because I don't see any point

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in talking about what everyone else is already talking about
because you've heard about it ten times. Some people just
want to be fed the same thing every show. I
don't think that's useful. There are other interesting things that
should be talked about. Dan Crenshaw, Houston Congressman. I supported
the hell out of Dan Crenshaw when he first ran.
He was in third place when I was asked by
a mutual friend of ours who I love and adore.

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He asked me if I would support Crenshaw and Crenshaw
was in third place, and we managed to get him
into second place to get in a runoff, and then
we managed to win the election. The Dan Crenshaw that
Dan Crenshaw promised to be was a conservative populist leader.

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He got to d C and maybe he was hiding
it from us all and he ended up there are
navy seals. What's the guy Gallagher? If you look up
Gallagher and his comments as Eddie Gallagher he claims. He
claims that Dan Crenshaw tried to keep him from being
able to get out of of was it prison? I

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forget the whole story, but if you look it up,
he comes after Crenshaw. I've heard a number of other
veterans David Goggins went after Crenshaw, and Goggins is beloved.
I know David Goggins through Marcus a troll. There are
a number of folks special forces, mostly seals, who who

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have had some things to say about Crenshaw that you know, look,
this guy's here's a questionable dude. Well, I told him
I could not support him anymore because of some decisions
he made. And when people started asking him, he would
go out and get speeches and they go, hey, why

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is Michael Berry not endorsing you? And he said, oh,
he wanted me to spend money on his company, and
when I wouldn't spend money then and he got mad.
That is absolutely not true. But it's the kind of
thing that the fact that he could say that has
informed every opinion I've had about him since then, because

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it was the kind of thing that would almost seem
to make sense. And that's kind of what the CIA
does they plant stories that kind of halfways seem to
make sense to make it more believable that you would
think that would be the case. Now, I will tell
you when politicians ask me should I spend money with iHeartMedia,

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which is the company I work for, Should I spend
money there on my campaign? Ninety percent of the time
I say yes. Because there are occasions that it doesn't
make sense if you're running for state rep. Out of
one hundred people I'm talking to, even on the morning show,
which is more of a localized show, especially in the evening, No,

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it doesn't make sense for you to spend money on
a national show when you need a few thousand people
in a little district in Texas. But for most people,
if it's a statewide campaign or national campaign, I say yes,
you should. It's I believe in it, it's effective. But
the fact that he would lie like that, it really.

Speaker 7 (09:15):
It.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
It didn't bother me because nobody believes him, but it
told me what kind of person he is because he
crafted that lie, he didn't tell the real reason and
what I told him, and what an arrogant little he is.
But since then, he's embarrassed himself again and again and again.
And the sad part about this is he's clearly off

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the rails. He's lost. No one respects him anymore, no
one supports him. He's toxic, and and that you know,
that's not a good feeling. He's a very arrogant guy,
very arrogant guy. And as a result of all this,
it's made it's turned him him against everyone in a

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way that now he comes off as even worse than
before because he kind of take this devil may care attitude.
And I have to tell you it's sad to watch.
And he is so deep into us giving money for
Ukraine that anyone who says that's a bad idea he now.
He tells a British reporter a couple of days ago,

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he doesn't know that the mic is hot, and he
says that if he ever meets Tucker Carlson, he'll kill him,
and then he repeats it. It's like, this is not
the kind of behavior that you would expect out of
somebody in Congress, that this is really kind of troubling anyway,
So Tucker Carlson sat down with his former producer at

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Fox News at Wardo Nourette, and then Crenshaw's name came up,
and needless to say, Tucker doesn't think very highly of Crenshaw.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
He saw this, but someone had put out a tweet
saying Dan Crenshaw's pushing for this bill because it includes
a forty percent pay race for member of Congress. And
Dan Crenshaw had recently been complaining that like, oh, we
don't make enough money, We're like destitute. I want to
quote it exactly because it's just hilarious. So he responds
to this guy on X and he says, you're flying
piece of but hey, whatever gets you, pathetic, bottom feeders, clickbait,
you in sell. So now if you're against Dan Crenshaw's

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spending bill, you're you're like an in sell or something.

Speaker 9 (11:22):
You don't have enough sex. Yeah. Dan Crenshaw obviously is
not emotionally prepared to lead anything. He's out of control,
and I think that he's a really volatable person. I
hope he gets help. I mean that, but you know,
he's also a pretty sinister person, I would say, whose
priorities are not aligned with his party's voters, but also
have kind of nothing to do with the United States.
I feel sorry for Dan crenschaff had conflict with Dan

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crunschhaw I felt like he was emotionally out of control,
and so I feel sorry for him. But I also
think it's not just him. It's a lot of leadership
of that party just doesn't put the United States first
at all.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
And this on the day of the Epstein List. And
the reason I bring all this up is because they
sort of dovetail nicely. I think that foreign actors, we're
bad actors, do things to compromise our leadership, and I

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think as a result, they do good things for the
people that they control and bad things for the people
who oppose them. And these people who want to send
money to Ukraine, I really I don't think it's I
think it's way more complicated than just wanting Ukraine to

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have enough money.

Speaker 9 (12:42):
Beautiful way.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Hopefully I'll be able to get later in the show
into something I keep rolling over day after day, and
we haven't gotten to yet, but we will. It's all
Epstein lists all day today, as you can imagine, but hopefully,
and this is phase one. But the Joint chiefs of Staff,
the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, a fellow

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by the name of General C. Q. Brown, has been
fired by Trump and Pete Hegseth and this guy is
a race baiter. All he talks about is diversity, diversity, diversity, diversity.
And just remember when eventually the Democrats build an affordable
housing project next to your neighborhood and there's nothing but

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crime there. That is all in the name of diversity.
And just remember the next time somebody gets out of
prison who happens to be black, and they don't make
them pay a bond and they murder someone else, that
is all in the name of diversity. When you start
celebrating race or sex or sexual orientation rather than merit,

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then you are getting into a slippery slope of sloppiness.
That's not how you operate things. I will now share
with you something This isn't new from five years ago,
but I think about it often because I was a debater. No,
I was not a master debate Ramonia. It's not funny.
We're not in sophomore. Okay, it's pretty good. So meet

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Amina Ruffin, she's twenty one and Corey Johnson nineteen. They
went from passionately arguing current events on campus to being
the first black women ever to win a national debate championship. Okay,

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I can celebrate that. Yeah, I mean that's cool. That's
somebody doing something on the basis of merit. They didn't
choose to be born black. They won the National Debate
Championship fair and square, right that you decide for yourself.

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There were one hundred and sixty nine other teams in
the country's ultimate war of words, which is called the
Cross Examination Debate Association Championship. It's the national Championship. And
here is a segment from Fox five in Baltimore with
Amina and Corey. I want you to listen to them,

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and then I want you to listen to the clip
of one of them. I think it's Amina who is debating,
and I want you to listen to her presentation and
see if you think that sounded like quality collegiate debating
or if maybe, just maybe they decided these girls were
going to win because they're black. And what you decided?

Speaker 10 (15:46):
Kalising University's debate team wins, claiming in historic win, they
are the first all black women's team to win the
Cross Examination Debate Association's National Championship. This morning, we had
two of the team members here. We have a Mina
Often and Corey Johnson, both here to talk about the
major victory. Ladies, way to go. Congratulations, You've made so

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many people proud in this area. And now we want
to pick your brain a little bit as we admire
your huge trophy. By the way, that's ridiculous, but I'm
gonna ask you first. We'll start with you, Amina.

Speaker 7 (16:16):
What was the topic?

Speaker 5 (16:17):
First of all, the topic was restricting presidential war powers authority.
They said, this is always already queer. That's exactly the point.
It means that the impact is that that is an impact.
Turn to the affraid that that it is the case.
Turned to the affirmative because we are saying that queer
bodies are not able to survive, that it necessarily means
it the body not able to survive.

Speaker 7 (16:35):
We got the topic and about July when we started
doing our research. Then he can only envision himself that
he does not see another that he can feel sympathy
for or embrace, but rather that that that other myth
gets obliterated.

Speaker 5 (16:51):
And we've been supplementing our research throughout the season and
trauma and it's like the trauma representations bat into the
black child with devowering and I defint stories into the
white culture and add subjectively like a white man the
black man.

Speaker 10 (17:04):
So where do you go from there? You know, when
you start preparing for a national competition, once you know
the topic, what's next, Well, you do a lot of research.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
That was not a parody, That was actually a girl debating.
I have spent untold hours at debate tournaments over the years.
I know a fair amount about them. I continued in
law school. We won the state championship, which was a

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big deal. I got debate scholarships to pay my way
through college. I'm rather familiar with the tradition of cross
examination debate. That right there, whatever, that was some sort
of interpretive vituperative exclamations and breathing disorders and streets slang

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vernacular and whatever else you want to call. That is
the kind of nonsense, because here's what happened. The judges
would have made a decision in the championship that we're
going to pick these two black girls because we've never

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had two black girls as champion national champions. Well, what
about old Smith over there? Smith and Jones. Those guys
are good, yeah, but they're white males. You know, they'll
be fine, they'll figure it out. But these girls, this
could really change the trajectory, and all the other young
black girls coming up, they'll see this and they'll be inspired.

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So let's go ahead and pick them to win. Well,
let's just go ahead and decide that now, and we
won't really pay attention while they're talking, and we'll pick
them as the winner. Okay, Well, then what you do
is you encourage young black girls after them to speak
in this ridiculous style. There is no way anyone thinks

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that that is a convincing, persuasive debate presentation.

Speaker 9 (19:22):
It is.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
It comes from the coffee shop. Oh, what's the term.
It's like an interpretive poetry. What do they call slam?
Slam contest? And okay, that's fine, Okay, there's there's all
sorts of different cultural but it is widely understood that

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this is how debate is conducted. You make a convincing argument.
That girl's not making a convincing argument. She's doing an
interpretation of a homeless guy at the bus stop who
needs some drugs and you don't know if he's talking
to you or who he's talking to. And I guarantee

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you that set of judges did not find that to
be persuasive. They did not judge that debate. They voted,
and they voted for something they believed was good and noble,
and that is wrong. It is wrong because whoever actually
should have won because they put on the best performance,

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would have busted their butts to be there. And now
they won't be the national champions. And you know what,
they will turn out okay because they will learn from
that experience. But I will tell you this, they will
take from it a bitterness because they will know. But
something to think about. There were one hundred and seventy teams.

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If you did a tournament style competition, do you realize
how many rounds they had to win to get to
the fires to demonstrate that nonsense that they used. Do
you realize how many people had to be in on
this conspiracy that we're going to pick those two black girls?

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You realize what a coordinated effort it would have to be.
And do you realize that's happening in our government? Do
you realize that that's not diversity, that's dumb assery. Will
fart hard for the freedom to vote?

Speaker 10 (21:32):
The Michael Arry Show.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Directions how much I like this, I got it too.
So the Democrats are sitting around they took a shellacking
in the polls. The American people rejected them and everything
they stand for. And now the worst indignity compounding their

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shame is that what Trump is doing is very popular,
and it's successful, and it's long overdue, proving that it
could be done, making him a very popular man. Some
of it is what Elon's doing, but there's so many

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other things. Pete hegg Sat is doing good things. Christy
Noah is doing good things and I'm not a big fan.
Marco Rubio is doing good things, and I'm not a
big fan. These are all following Trump's direction and directives,
and the American people love it. Not just Republicans, because
guess what a lot of people who've been voting Democrat.

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They don't like the waste, they don't like their money
being abused. So the Democrats have to do something to
gum up the works. And this one is particularly good.
This is Texas Congressman Greg Kassar crying about the millions
and millions of people who will die because of doge. Yep.

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If the government lays off people that aren't doing any
work except sitting on a sex chat all day, If
the government saves the fraudulent checks that it was sending
out to people who were defrauding our government. If all
these things happen, then people are going to die. Give
this the end is actually the best part.

Speaker 8 (23:23):
State Right here, I'm going to do something that I've
never done in a Congressional hearing before, and that is
plead for help from the American people. Plead for help
from my Republican colleagues on something that we actually all

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agree on, because lives are at stake right now. I'm
going to start by describing the facts on the ground.
Millions of people are at risk of dying of starvation
in areas of the world where Democrats and Republicans have
already agreed and committed to feeding them with American grown

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food for humanitarian reasons and for global stability. But yesterday
I spoke with people in charge of warehouses in Sudan
and Ethiopia. Warehouses full of food, but because of doge,
that food is trapped in the warehouse out of reach

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of starving and dying moms and kids. In those two
countries alone, one hundred and fifty thousand children and moms
are at risk of dying months.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Hold on, hold on, It's always the human shields they
must be able to do what they're doing or else
the children. It's always about the children. We had a
very corrupt mayor when I came into Houston City Council's
name was Lee P. Brown, and he was elected because

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he was black, and so Houston was one of the
major cities that had not yet had a black mayor.
And so there was a lot of guilt because there
was a guy who ran named Sylvester Turner, who's as
corrupt as all get out, and he had lost six
years earlier, and he lost to an old white man
who was a developer who turned out to be a
darn good mayor. He was a Democrat, but he was

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a white man, and he had beaten this black guy
when all this fraud and corruption was exposed. And so
the idea, even from the old white man that beat
the black guy, was well, we've got to have a
black mayor. So we've got a hat city has to
have a black mayor who never had a black mayor
got to have a black mayor. So they picked the

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former police chief, Lee P. Brown, who's an absolute bubbling idiot.
Can't say his own name. I'm not even joking. I
served on city council while he was mayor, and I'm
telling you, this guy was was dumb. I would always
prefer when someone is really dumb that they be white,
because if I tell you that a white person is dumb,

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you don't cringe, you don't think, oh, I wish you
wouldn't say that. But when someone happens to be black
and they're dumb, then people feel uncomfortable about it. But
dumb is dumb, and this guy was dumb. So anyway,
while he was mayor, he was constantly wasting money, and

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he was wasting money so that he could make money
for friends of his. I suspect I can't prove it
that he was getting kickbacks on it, but I don't
know that. But everything he would do was always for
the children. He wanted to raise. He wanted to He
wanted to impose what we called the rain tax. He

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wanted people to have to pay for concrete they had
on their property because the rain couldn't soak into the dirt,
so you had people that had old, raggedy concrete that
had been busted up. He wanted you to pay attack
for that because he wanted more, and because it was
a new tax, they could say they weren't raising taxes
what they were, and we called it the rain tax,

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like you're being taxed on the rain. And we managed
to beat him, which is hard to do. But his
argument was that he was doing this for the children.
The children. The city government in the city of Houston
has almost nothing to do specifically with children. It's police, firefighters, water,

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airport roads. Those are the big issues sanitation, not the children,
but the children. Is the kind of things that Democrats say,
especially minority democrats, because they never get punished for it.

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But actually, saddling your children with a bunch of debt
that they're going to eventually have to pay is a cruelty.
It is an absolce cruelty. Anyway, let's go back to
this idiot.

Speaker 8 (28:03):
Countries alone, one hundred and fifty thousand children and moms
are at risk of dying this month if that food
is not delivered from the warehouse to them right up
the road. Everyone agrees that's not supposed to happen. Republicans
voted for this food, and Democrats voted for this food
to get out. Secretary of State Marco Rubio says the

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food should go out as part of his life saving
Waiver Doze Chairwoman Marjorie Taylor Green started this hearing by
saying that life saving food programs should still be running.
We have paid for the food and we have shifted
and it is sitting trapped in the warehouse because DOGE
is blocking the payments needed to get the food out

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to the people who need it. So here's what that means.
It means that kids are dying and more will die
tomorrow of severe acute malnutrition. If you want nightmares, just
google severe acute malnutrition and look at the photos. The
way that healthcare workers determine if a kid is dying

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of this is they measure their bicep and if their
bicep is less than four and a half inches around,
then that means you could die of starvation tomorrow. Think
of a kid's arm fitting through this hole. Think of
your kid's arm fitting.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Through this You ever notice they always have a slight
lisp and leave you little light in the loafers impression.
Think of your kids, This could be your kids. We
have to give billions of dollars to USAID. That ends
up in newspapers and Democrat back pockets, But think of
your kids. Your kids could be hungry. All you readers

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out there in the suburbs, your kids could be hungry.
You know what your kids to be hungry. You see
how skinny this is. You see this little hole here
in putting my hand through, He says, hole, I'm putting
this this little this little hole here. That could be
your kid, That could be your kid. You have to
give us more money. Elan's taking all our money. That
could be your kid. Good grief. Cry hard.