1-18-25 Inside Racing

1-18-25 Inside Racing

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And now it's time for Inside Racing, full hour of
coverage on everything going on in the sport of kings
here in southern California and around the country.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
And here's your host, Jason Levine here.

Speaker 9 (03:45):
Good morning everybody. Excuse me, Yeah, I lost my voice
right at the beginning. It's a little too early to
do that. But uh, Steve Pollock here filling in for
Jason Levine. Jason, it's got a little jet lag, I believe.
I'll tell you what chaplin, the Australia, Hawaii, all over
the world, and I am filling in for him on
another day here, and what a day we have got today.

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We are going to talk cowbreds today. Cowbreds, boy, oh boy,
I've had a lot of fun with them. In fact,
I'm going to go over the history a little bit
of some of the best cowbreds. This is in my opinion.
I'm going to give you four or five horses that
were honorable mention. I'm going to give you my top
five top five cowbreds for me all time today. A

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little bit of partiality in there. Some of the horses
that I maybe made a little money on made this list,
but some real solid horses, some Cowbread's going to be
a lot of fun. What a great card we have
today out at the track. We're going to bring Bruno
on at the bottom of the hour. He's going to
talk about a couple of maiden races down at the Fairgrounds.
They're running the Lea Compe there today, So the three

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year olds really getting kicked off with that La Compe
today down at the Fairgrounds. And big card down there,
some big races down there, Gulf Stream in Action's Aqueduct.
Keep an eye on the weather back there. I think
it's going to hold off for today, but definitely double
check if you're playing anywhere back east on the weather.

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But we're going to concentrate on the California racing before
we get to my little cow bred list. Just a
quick reminder that on they're going to have the Mixed
Sail at Pomona. That's coming up Tuesday, January to twenty first.
It's the CTBA Winter Mixed Sale and all day long

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there over at Pomona and they're going to have a
bunch of horses, including a twenty two horse dispersal from
the Valpredo Barn. There's one hundred and forty three horses
available in there. I always wanted to go to one
of these sales, maybe because i live down here in
San Diego and I'm always tired by the time comes
around on a five day race week like we had

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this time. I've never made it up there, but it
sounds like it would really be a fun day again.
One hundred and forty three runners for sale, and that
is going to be over at Pomona. Just another quick note.
I read a book over the winter break and actually
finished it up when we had our cancelation last week.
It's a book called A Better Way of Thinking by

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a Breeders' Cup BCBC winner Matt Miller. I would say
it's the first book that I've read in horse racing
that's not really and truly a handicapping book. Hardly mentions handicapping,
talks a lot about strategies for tournament and strategies for
just regular everyday thinking. A Better Way of Thinking again

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is the title, and I would recommend it to any
real serious horse player.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
You know.

Speaker 9 (06:55):
I just think a few really good points just to
get your mind going straight. I think it had a
few of those and A Better Way of Thinking by
Matt Miller. Certainly a book that I would recommend to
a serious horse player. It's trying to, you know, get
your mind get your mindset right. I think that's really

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the best way of explaining this. So if you're trying
to get a better mindset, and I'm always battling with that.
It's really been a lifelong process with me being a golfer.
Early in my days as a junior, I played a
lot of junior golf and then I played a lot
of serious amateur golfer. Wanted to be a pro, and
a lot of the thinking was, you know, a lot

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of my thinking was, you know, if I just swing
better and if I just hit this ball better, it's
going to make me a better player. And instead of
realizing that the mental aspect, the thinking of the game
was really important, and I didn't work on that, and
I've certainly tried to work on that in horse racing,
and I think this book was right up my alley

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and certainly might be something that could help you. I
wanted to go into those cowbreds and the cowbreds my
top ten cowbreds of all time. Boy, I switched this
list around quite a bit, and a little bit of
it of selfish, but I'm going to go with number ten.

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Number ten was Bud Royal for me and this horse.
I tell you what, I cast on this horse quite
a few times. This was the all time horse for
people that like to bet price horses for sure, because
this horse paid thirty dollars or more. Gosh, must have
been three or four times that this guy paid a
big price and just kept coming back and winning races

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and moving up the ladder and won a lot of money.
Very very nice horse. I've got snow Chief as the
next one, and this guy was something special when in
the Preakness. Maybe would have even been better if he
didn't run into Ferdinand, but he did his damage against Ferdinand.

Speaker 6 (08:57):
Two.

Speaker 9 (09:00):
The snow Chief trained by Mel Study and well, I
hope they do something for Mel. Snow Chief was pretty spectacular.
I got to go with free House next. That'll be
my where we ad on the list here. That's number eight.
I've got Bertrando. Gosh, I tell you what I always thought.
Bertrando just got beat in the big, big races. Maybe

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that's the difference between him and a couple of these
up at the top, but Bertrando was something pretty special.
You know. The next one, I'm going to call a
tie for fifth because I wanted both of these horses
to be in the top five. But the Chosen Vron
has just been a wind machine in nineteen for twenty five,
five for six, and twenty twenty four Eric Kruljack and Barrios.

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And you know something that's certainly fresh in our minds.
The Chosen Vron gets the tie for fifth nod with
Philly that I actually had in my top ten of
all time. I can't tell you how talented I think
she was. For those of you who were around in
nineteen eighty six, she ran snow Chief off his feet

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and that was a horse named Malaire. And I'll tell
you what, she was as talented as any horses I've
ever seen, just didn't really get to show it. Went
on a five race win streak and then that was it.
Just a real short career. And if one of you
were out there that do some interviews, maybe like a
Peter Lourie, I'd love you to ask John Sadler where
Milaire is. We know who is number one horse? Is

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It's flight line? A lot of you would think that
maybe Accelerate, who won the Breeders' Cup Classic, would be
his number two. I wouldn't be surprised if he put
Malaire ahead of Accelerate. I certainly would. I know she
didn't run against the same type of horses, but she
was something special. And again that was way back in
the early eighties. But I remember driving up to Hollywood

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Park and watching her run to watch Snowchief run actually
in that race, and I remember coming away saying, what
did I just see? That was something really special? Man?
Oh man, she was great. I next on the list
for me, and this one needs. Any one of these
last four could have been number one, but I'm gonna
go with best pale. This horse won the inaugural Pacific

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Classic eighteen of forty seven Gary Jones and Patrick Venezuela,
and just remember how special that day was for everybody
at del Mar. Everybody was rooting for that horse to
win the race and beat a lot of open company
horses a big, big race. And absolutely love Lava Man
as well. He'd be my number three. Lava Man seventeen

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for forty seven. Doug O'Neill, Corey Knakatani rode that horse.
Just a really really special horse. Number two won the
Kentucky Derby, California Crome, Art Sherman and Victor Espinoza special
career for this one. And my number one would be
tiss Now and I'm giving it to tis Now just
based on the fact that he won two Breeders' Cup

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Classics and Jay Robbins Chris mccairn eight to fifteen lifetime.
Most of these horses like seventeen for forty seven, so
they were a lot of them were winning one out
of three. I mean, really the best percentage record was
is the Chosen Ron. That's why I put him up there.
But and boy, I sure would like to see the
chosen Ron come back again. Hope Eric crul Jack get

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that one back in shape. All right, We're going to
go to the Santa Anita card. I want to talk
to you first about the racetrack. And you know we
had a few days off there for sure, between the
fifth and the sixteenth.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Came back.

Speaker 9 (12:37):
A few horses closed yesterday on the main track. But
if you look at some of these distances, the six
furlong distance on the main track, eight out of sixteen
races wired to wire and five of those races have
been won by trackers, so only three horses have come
from three lengths or more off the pace six furlongs
five and a half furlongs. Haven't had a whole lot
of those races, but four out of five of those

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have been one wired wire and even at seven furlongs,
two wired to wires, three just off pace, no off
pace horses and no way off pace horses. So five
for five, one by at least a tracking horse and
just boy just not having speed in these races. And
again yesterday I thought closers closures one three out of

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four of the races yesterday on the on the main track,
so you could close. I guess if there's enough speed,
it's it's real hard to have a lot of confidence
in a horse that's coming from far off the pace.
At a mile five races one wire to wire, three
just off the pace, two off pace, one way off pace.
So you got five wire to wire and you got
five from horses off the pace. I mean it's almost well,

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it is half fifty. Let's move over to the turf course.
You know, we just haven't seen a whole lot of
races run down the hill. There's been one one just
off pace, one off pace, and one wire to wire winner.
Also had three races at six and a half furlongs.
I'm out of that shoot one just off pace, one

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off pace, one way off the pace at six furlongs,
which we've had a lot more of a sample, big
sample three three wire to wire, three just off pace,
five off the pace, and two way off the pace.
So been pretty fair there at six furlongs. And you
have been able to close some ground on this turf
course for sure, and especially at a mile and an eight.
We've had five races at a mile and an eight,

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four of them won by the deep closers and just
one one by a tracker, and they've got a race
of a mile and an eighth today. I really think
that that that that closing type of track right now
that I see on the turf course is very relevant
at a mile two wired to wire, seven just off pace,
nine off pace, so three to five lengths off the pace,

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and then five by the deep closures. So you got
fifty fourteen races one by horses coming from off the
pace there on the on the turf course of the mile.
Certainly check the rail position, and I just simply think
it's it's something that you want to check it every day.
I know, I've seen a lot of guys write articles that, hey,
the rail was way out and the closers won five

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out of five. Well, it's just simply that when the
rails are way out, there's just not as much room
for the inside horses to move. And when horses are outside,
they run fast races and they just they don't get
there as easily by being outside. So when those rails
are way out, it just gives those front runners a
little better chance because there's less room for the closures
that are saving ground. I mean, that's really the best

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way I can explain it. And those speed, to me,
does a little bit better when those rails are out.
But the rails are a zero today, and hey, let's
go to the races. What a nice day we have
on tap today here at Santa Anita. And I've had
a decent week myself, yours truly had knee tea point,

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I was a best bet on the card right back
on Thursday, had thirty six dollars horse And yeah, I
mean it brings up another subject. You know, I don't
want to criticize anybody, but look, let's face it, it's
a very difficult job to set odds on these horses,
and our odds maker right now is struggling a little bit,
and I just got to say it, and so I

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wouldn't make as big a deal about the odds, about
the morning line. Odds almost think about what they're going
to be. And I think we sort of got out
of that habit because I think the former odds maker
John White was really really a little bit better at it,
and I think maybe as this odds maker Jeff Siegel
goes on that he can get better, but right now
he's definitely struggling. You hate to see thirty to one,

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twenty to one shots, you know, twenty to one shots
especially go off of three or four to one, and
you hate to see twelve to one's going off with
three or four to one, And it just seems to
be happening quite a bit, and a lot of the times.
As a handicapper, you know, we're getting excited saying, hey,
this horse is ten to one, this is twelve to one.
I really like this horse. I think we're going to
have to ask ourselves the question the night before, what

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are you know? What are going to be the odds
on this horse. Maybe you doing a little bit more
setting the lines. Uh. And for those of you that
are not as advanced, and Iron is going to doing that,
it's gonna that's gonna make it tough. It's just gonna
be tough. And that's why you want an odds maker
that's doing a little better job. And again, I hate

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to be so critical about somebody, but it's just been
it's been been off, for sure, it's been it's been off.
The odds in the morning line have not been solid.
So I wanted to go. I wanted to skip the
first three races. Those are our maiden races anyway, but
I wanted to go through a lot of this card
and see if we can't help you out on some

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of these, and then we'll give you my radio selection
in the last race. But I want you to start
out in the fourth race because this is the first
steak race on the bunch, and certainly Big City Lights
has been been incredibly solid. In fact, if this horse
hadn't ever faced the chosen ron, what would his record be?
It would be a whole lot better because he's won,

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he's ran, and second to that one at least four
times that I can remember. And then the fact that
he ran against Royal Torret who comes back and wins
the Malibu, and he ran against the Chosen run again there.
And really, this horse has done nothing wrong. He's drawn great.
He's going to be a super super short price. I'll

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tell you what. There's a horse that I watched on
tape the last couple of days, a couple of days ago,
name Clovis Connection. This horse's I think Jeff's probably right
on the morning line on this horse of what his
chances are. But I think the crowd might just make
this a one horse race and make Big City Lights
one to nine in here. But I think Clovis Connection

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has a little shot. This horse has done nothing wrong.
He's eleven for seventeen lifetime, but he's also eight for
eight at this six for long distance. And this horse
has really run some nice races. In fact, if you
go up looking the Emerald Downs race, and that's always
a good race, and some really nice horses go up
there every year. It's always a big field. And this

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horse set the pace in that race, probably a little
further than he wants to go, but he was on
the lead at one o nine and change, and they
finished up in one thirty four and four and he
only was beaten ahead in that race and then came
back and then just stomped him two times in a row.
Is how to spin over the track? That's probably a
pretty important work, that thirtieth work. Maybe if I can

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remember to ask Bruno when he comes on what he
thought of that work. Now, certainly Big City Lights is
the one to beat. And this is the question. You
know these pick fives are you know? These early pick
five with the low takeout is certainly a bet that
I look at every day. It's not a horse I'd
be interested in betting, but I could possibly use those two, uh,

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if you have a single elsewhere. Heading over to the
fifth race, maiden turf race here, you know, Miles Finch
is going to be pretty tough in here to beat
John Sadlers is off to a little bit of a
slow start. This horse looks like he's training pretty we well.
The races on tape were pretty decent. There's a couple
of pedigree horses in there that are interesting. I really

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like this, these bottom side pedigree horses. It's an angle
that I've used for years that really works. Well for me.
The outside horse Glass of Jamison didn't really run all
that well first time. That the first time that he
ran on the on the dirt at Low Salamados. But
this one's been gelded since they're all getting lay six

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now as they're all three year olds, and win Hernandez
is riding the damn of this one. She's a milky
Way was a turf horse and this is one of
her first offspring. It's clubhouse ride on the top. I
would be interested to see how this one runs on
the turf. Not the best posts in the world, but
should be a big price. There's another horse that has
a nice pedigree in here, and sometimes the turf sprints

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don't really these these pedigrees don't work quite as well
as they do in the two turn races. But James J.
Braddock is a horse that's certainly out of a solid
signer Jimmy Creed for turf. But the damn of this one,
Sunday Rules Boy. She was a nice runner, and I
wouldn't be surprised if this one ran much better second out.

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Maybe more of a dirt pedigree, but I like the
damn on this one, and that's a possible price horse
in there, the two favorites in there. I think there
should probably be a little bit more separation between Miles
Finch and Colin j. Odds Wise, I think the odds
are probably right on Miles Finch Colin J. I would
make more culture to maybe three to one or maybe

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five to two in my mind, But those are the
two horses to be maybe a couple of long shots
to look at with them in the in the fifth race,
going to the sixth race, you know, by the way,
and he spread a lot of these races where they're
all golden gate horses, and what do you think of
those races? Got a couple of those horses in here,

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and one would be this horse, Bob's Blue Moon, and
this horse is Frankly horse is an O two X
horse from the old days when we used to talk
about those type of things. But that means this horse
ran a big race November the ninth, was a couple
points slower on the in the Pleasanton race last time
out and now comes down here. I like the fact

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that this horse has a work over the track, that
that two X is a concern for me on this one.
And yeah, I've been playing devil among us quite a bit.
Is this guy going to get the lead easily this time?
I don't think so. There's a horse name mister Disrespectful
that's coming in off a long layoff, and boy, this
guy just blitz the workover at Low Salamidos three works back,

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so I don't see him not showing a lot of speed.
Looks like a tough race to beat the top two
in there. Probably a race that I will that I
will try to stay out of, but maybe an easier
race for the pick six players. The seventh race, they're
going down the hill, the hillside race in here six

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and a half. Always loved these races. I'll tell you this,
stay in scams last three or four races. Boy, this
horse was absolutely in Fuego. In fact, at the end
of the sant Anita meet in the Franz Valentine last year,
this horse could not have been an a sharp or
just had run three or four great races, and I
think this is her distance. But her last four races

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have definitely been a little bit below. It's been a
little bit disappointing. Is she the horse to beat? Absolutely,
But if you want to take a shot in here
there's a couple of horses that are interesting. I thought
the morning line on Sapha was too short. I just
two to one to me, that's not a two to
one shot with a lack of form on the turf.

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I think this horse would really have to step it
up on the turf. The tar much slower than her
numbers on dirt. So again that's a morning line that
I think is a little bit off. I think the
morning line and stand Scam is probably close to being right.

Speaker 6 (24:00):
Maybe.

Speaker 9 (24:00):
Andiamo or in Gaza is a horse that could come late.
Really going to be pace. Pace is going to be
the key for her. Is she going to get it
fast enough? Pace? Where is the speed in this race?
Looks like the one horse Barbara Barbara is the speed
of this race. The damn of this one? A horse
named Roman Wild interesting. She ran a big second in

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her only race on the turf, and that was her
first race on the turf, So not a lot of
turf breeding stay thirsty on the top side. But boy,
this horse has been sharp. And again I don't think
that turf sprint breeding is super super important. A sharp
horse that has some speed, maybe alongshot with a chance
moment's pleasure is sharp right now. Kazushi Kimora does seem

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to be riding I think a little bit better than
he rides the del Mar track. You're getting what are
you getting here? Eight to one on this one in
the morning line? Interesting horse on the cutback. There really
going to be is there enough speed in here? And
can we beat Stay and Scam coming off that freshening
five year old mare with a little bit of time off.

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I like these Phillies and mayors with time off. I
really think that's a good thing for him. But I
do think that there's some horses that can beat her,
as she just hasn't been quite as sharp as she was.
I'm gonna ask Bruno about Race eight. I think you
know this is a race that I know Bruno likes

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these straight maidens a little bit better than he likes
the maidens that are in for a tag. But if
if we have some time, if he has anything that
he's that he's seen in the mornings in that race,
that would certainly be helpful. Looks like a wide open
race to me. In fact, if you're a if he
doesn't have anything that he really likes, that's not the
worst race in the world to hit the old wall

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box going to the next race, which is a mile
and an eighth, And again I talked about these races
at this distance so far being being closed or oriented.
I think the horses that have the big speed in
here are horses that don't necessarily want to run a
mile and an eighth. Although Jimmy Blue Jeans does have

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a win at a mile and an eighth, the problem
with Jimmy Blue Jeans is that fast Buck is in here. Now.
One thing for sure about these races is this happens
all the time, is that you look at a race
and you see a horse like Takes three, who showed
some more speed last time, and then you see a
horse like really the true speed of the race is
fast Buck, and Jimmy's Blue Jeans has really never been

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you know, this horse is always out in the front.
The key is is to make sure that they all
three run, because I think it's very important, especially those
top two, because those two are going to be one
two early. Fast Buck is a sprinter, and I'm not
sure why they've they've tried to go a little bit
longer distance to me, you know, Caesar dal but he
just has not managed this horse properly. This horse is

(26:55):
I think he's a turf sprinter, and I would love
to see this horse, you know, with to that distance
instead of jumping all around. Frankly, I thought his best
races ever were five furlongs and maybe I try to
stretch him out to six. But you know they're gonna
they're trying to stretch him out at the end of
his career, and I don't think that's gonna that's gonna
lead to success for them, Old pal, does he deserve

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to be favored?

Speaker 6 (27:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (27:21):
Eight to five? Is he beatable? Yeah, he's he's beatable today,
There's no doubt about it. On sheet numbers.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
Uh, he is.

Speaker 9 (27:29):
You know, one of about three or four horses in
here that can run a similar number to that, maybe
a little more consistent. For Sue has been struggling a
little bit. At eight to five, I do think this
horse is beatable. And here we go with the morning
line again. You know, Jeff's set the morning line for
this for on the whim. Uh you know, the last week,

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and this horse was a big price. Now all of
a sudden, he's half the price. He's at five to one,
and you know, I really don't know how that can
change that drastically. I'm not sure that I love the
rail draw out a mile and an eighth only because
there's that little gap right after the start. And I
certainly like the mile distance. I like having the rail,
but at a mile and an eighth, you know, I

(28:11):
prefer the two hole. There's another closure in here. None
above the law. It's very sharp right now. That last
race is better than looked. I think a mile and
a half is further than he wants to go. And
he ran the mile in an eighth at Delmar nicely,
one of Delmar Derby at this distance, so you get
big money mic in there. So none above the law.

(28:31):
I think a long shot that has a chance a
Legato isn't an interesting horse because just when you look
at this horse's sheet, he certainly runs faster numbers at
a mile. Every single one of his best races are
at a mile. Now, he's had races where he's been
in contention at a mile and an eighth and he's

(28:53):
one for five, which seems to be in par with
two seconds and two thirds. But when you look at
his sheet, he runs slower numbers going a mile on
an eighth than he does a mile. Now what he
gets is he gets to Flavian Pratt juice, and you know,
Flavian right now is just at another level. So certainly
wouldn't be a surprise in here a horse that I

(29:13):
would use, But I think it's a horse that can
be beaten. There's another horse in here that's going to
be a big price. Doesn't necessarily have the best post,
but this horse is really in good shape, and I
think the distance might actually be decent for this one.
It's the outside one of the outside horses. Number eleven,
is that the outside horse. Yes, it is barely functional,
barely functional, has been flopping, did win the race last

(29:36):
time on the dirt. But this horse takes back and
makes a run with the speed that I think is
going to be in there at twenty to one. It's
not my pick to win the race, but if you
were playing deep in the exotics, that's a horse that
I think I would use. I'm going to pass on
race ten because our man j Friedlander is going to
do that and we're going to wrap it up with

(29:59):
my radio play in race eleven. Race eleven. The horse
I like in here is number six. Take another card,
and this is my top play on the card. Missed
the break early. You can see in the racing forum
that from post position to this horse was ninth out
of the gate and just really tried to rush into it.

(30:21):
That Tory just said, I'm not gonna wait. I'm gonna
push this horse now. So he breaks last and he's fourth,
and he just steadily moved up through the field and
he just went right on by and drew off. I
was extremely impressed, as was Frank Maramatti. You could tell
by the way he he called it good breeding on
this one. This one should be able to stretch out.

(30:42):
I like the way this race sets up for this one,
and I think this horse will break better, and I
don't think he's going to be all that far off
the pace. I think the pacesetter is probably we the hobby,
the seven horse who has the fastest bris early pace numbers.
But take another card. The best play for me on
the card. I'm gonna play one to win, and in
the exotic, I'm going to use the two Tekila in

(31:04):
therapy and I'm going to use the eight who's also
stretching out in here for Leonard Powell with Rispoli riding
miss me so fancy. So it'll be a six with
two eight, and I'm going to play a trifecta in here.
I'll box those box six box the six with the
two in the eight, and we'll use the all box
in the third hole in the try. So the trial
look like this. It'll be six with two eight with all,

(31:26):
six with all with two eight, and I'll come back
and use two eight with six with all, and then
come back and go all with six with two eight.
All right, so we made it through the Santa Nita card.
We are going to take our first break, and when
we come back, we'll have none other than Bruno de Julia, right.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
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Speaker 9 (34:07):
All right, we are back. We are back, and a
big day out there today. Nice nice cow bred card.
I hope you guys all go out there, ladies and gentlemen,
I should say, go out there and make a little
bit of money. And without any further ado, I want
to bring on my cohort, good friend of mine, Bruno

(34:28):
de Julia. Bruno, welcome to the show.

Speaker 6 (34:31):
Hey, how you doing this morning? Now you're a little
with it. You many took the kila in therapy after
that thirty minutes.

Speaker 9 (34:42):
Well yeah, I actually tequila in therapy. Well you know,
I mean, I was so bad at drinking tequila. I
had to stop about thirty years ago, Bruno. But it
does sound like fun, I'll tell you that much.

Speaker 6 (34:55):
Not anymore for guys our age. That's fast exactly right now,
I want to talk to you about common sense. Common
sense isn't their wedding day? Common senses? It too common
these days, you know, when you handicap, they're looking at people,
and the way they handicap and look at things, they

(35:16):
follow their emotions instead of reasons. And the one biggest thing,
the morning line is a big one of the issues
that I that I always look at it, you know,
and you were talking about it earlier in the show.
Folks stop looking at the morning line because it means
absolutely nothing. It means absolutely nothing, and it's a one

(35:38):
man's opinion. But people want to use the morning line
to be able to they take prices, not horses by
looking at the morning line. So my advice, as I'm
going to go into another couple of things, the morning
line to me is so off these days that you

(36:01):
just wait to see what the public is going to
adjust those sources do, because we as the public are
the morning line now because we adjust it, you know.
So if you got a horse that's twelve to one
and I'm looking at it on paper, going this or
something nine to two, and he opens up at five
to one, and I know my view on that race

(36:24):
is correct. You know, it's not the twelve to one
morning line that I't bet it down nobody because you know,
you get the ooh, did somebody knows something?

Speaker 3 (36:34):
You know?

Speaker 6 (36:35):
No, they know that that morning line is bad. That's
what they know. So a lot of the times people
put their emotions into it and down look at another one.
It's post positions. Steve, how many time you hear people
on television talking in general and handicapping right through the rail?
You always use that voice, don't they They do the

(36:57):
rail and as they changed their whole way, you know,
like Luke, I'm your father. You know that kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
You know.

Speaker 6 (37:04):
So all these tables in this fairy tales like we
threw the rail. You know, it's it's something that that
invotes some kind of emotion in the handicappers. Well, what
about if you get every track's not the same, every
rail is not the same. What if you go to

(37:25):
fairgrounds you gotta work down on the inside what you
do the rail? Well, there's nineteen point nine percent winners
coming from six prongs on the rail with one post
position at Fairgrounds nineteen point nine percent, the highest percentage
of any post position. Now people say, oh, I like
the way he's drawn outside, but you got eight out

(37:46):
of the post position, eight out of twelve. At Fairgrounds
there was one hundred and ninety. Races are far to me,
it's six point eight percent. You go on all the
postaghits together and horses are winning at seven percent compared
to the rail in nineteen point nine. Buddy through the rail,

(38:07):
you know.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
So when you're.

Speaker 6 (38:08):
Watching this and you're seeing it and you see people
repeat the same thing over and over again, no matter what.
You've got a horse going a mile and a quarter
and goes Buddy through the rail. You know, it's like
it's got a minor quarter. It's a long run the
first turn. The real life has got nothing to do
with it. But whatever, people will come out and say, Buddy,
true the rail.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
You know.

Speaker 6 (38:29):
So it's it's something that you really have to work
on to stop using these fairy tales in the back
of your head to come up with information. The other
one is looking at horses rankings in the workouts in
the morning, and I've got a couple of examples for
you go to the second race and baregrounds today.

Speaker 9 (38:49):
Now they got an early.

Speaker 6 (38:50):
Post, so you've got a hustle up, you know, you
do the Charlie hustle thing to make sure that that
race is going to go off pretty soon.

Speaker 9 (38:57):
But there's a horse race gons just telling the fans
that raises at ten thirty.

Speaker 6 (39:03):
Yeah, ten thirty, okay, good. So when you're looking at
it in the second range, we're gonna look at Rosolve
of the Wicket and that horse is the four horses,
it's the four horse and that's the big day of Fairgrounds.
That's a really big card. You got the lottle pomp
who kind of kicks off the the Triple Crown twenty

(39:24):
twenty five run. Officially, in my book, I've got a
four star work on Rosavo the Wicked. Well, you look
at the line, it's a four forty nine flat out
of the gate, eight out of one hundred and sixteen.
But that's wrong. That horse work forty eight and two.
Videos don't lie, and that's why I started doing videos.

(39:45):
And our videos are embedded within the product, so you
can see the four star work visually for yourself. Rosalvo.
The Wicked was part of a three horse set. The
horse on the rail was just because of me. Why
do I bring him up? We'll tugh because he's in
Later in the car, any Graham was writing just because
me Erica Murray was on Rose Alba the wicket and

(40:07):
Mega Magic was on the outside. I can separate him
via markings, and they're pretty distinct marking. So it's not
like I screwed that one. I screwed the food jo
now so Rose other The Wicked is much best in
that drill welling forty eight and two, out in one,
one in three, put away. All the competition kept going.
But guess what when the tab came out Esther the

(40:30):
Wicked got a forty nine just because me, who finished
in forty nine, three behind them, beaten by ten lanes,
got a forty eight and two and got two out
of one hundred and sixteen. So people that look at
your past performances for fat rounds, you see just because
of me. Later in the fifth race, I believe, I
mean you should make sure here I'm not lying to you.
It is the fifth pretty he's in the twelve hole right,

(40:55):
and he's got he's got a two out of one
hundred and sixteen. You were going, ooh ooh, this horse's
almost got the bullet work, got the fast horse. Well,
he got drugged in that drill. The clockers switched them.
That's why it's very important for me to be able
to see the videos or see them a line, because
I can get right. And in this situation, you've got

(41:18):
the Zalba the Wicked, who's listed at you know, six
to one, that r is going to be nine to two,
four to one, maybe seven to two. And that horse
get the four start work and is a very very
light horse in that second race. Now going back over
to the fifth race, which just because me is going
to get a lot of attention because of that work,
because of that ranking. The people are looking at it blindly.

(41:41):
And that horse got drugged in the in the work.
There is a horse in the race, the number eight
Quick Punch, who actually was best in the gatework. But
guess what it gave the horse that got beat by
five boys the better time. So and this is not
something that's just out of the ordinary. This happens a lot.

(42:04):
It happens a lot all across at Old Pond, at
at at at Gulf Stream at you know, and and
there's the reasons for that without you know, calling out anybody.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
People.

Speaker 6 (42:18):
We're betting on these horses, you know, so there's a
little bit of players and ship you could say, get
what people one that want to want to try to
protect their their their their price Ageah, people bet price
is not.

Speaker 9 (42:35):
Horses, all right. So in the second race it's a
resolved of the wicked Bruno and in the in the
fifth race at fair Grounds, it's the eight horse quick
bunch for you. I wanted to ask you, Bruno. I
know you've had as good of you as anybody has
had the last I don't even want to say how
many years now, Bruno, because we're getting too old. But

(42:56):
got to stop bringing that up because I think sometimes
years old as you think you are. That's another story here.
I want to know what you think with this big
cowbread day. What was your favorite cow bread?

Speaker 6 (43:07):
And why, oh my god, there's so many of them.
It's no chief come home, came home, free house, Best
Palo Red second in the Kentucky Derby behind it, I
think strike the gold for Nick Zito. You know, Best
Poule was really neat because how many people remember who

(43:29):
originally trained best Spout.

Speaker 9 (43:33):
Well, I know Gary Jones won the Pacific Classic with him,
but there was another trainer before that, wasn't there?

Speaker 4 (43:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (43:40):
I and jury wow and.

Speaker 6 (43:44):
Yeah o Golden Eagle Farm and Bestow was a really
neat hearse. He could have won the Derby. He was
a fantastic animal. I'm gonna forget it. He'd have brought
up my layer. I'm going to forget a bunch of
really good cowbreds. But I mean, the free House was phenomenal.
I remember him, watching him winning the Pacific Classic over
gentlemen in nineteen ninety eight. I want to say, hey,

(44:09):
you know he ran he ran what do you run
second or third into Derby? Did he run third in
the Derby?

Speaker 9 (44:15):
I think he ran out in the Derby and then
came back and ran second next time out. I think
it was it was him and Captain Bodgett and Silver
Charm right, and I can't remember what the exact order was.
Obviously Silver Charm wanted, but he was, he was. He
was a terrific horse. I missed that trainer too. I
missed that trainer, Paco Gonzalez. He was, he was something

(44:39):
pretty special. He could get a horse to be pretty good, couldn't.

Speaker 6 (44:41):
He He was a good He was a good trainer,
you know. I mean he had he had a lot
of good horses, and the Macoffins, you know, they were
really really great at bringing giving him some good stock.
Those are the hey days. I remember being at ally
with park clocking and seeing that yellow side at the
back of Gonzales, you know, with free House. I remember

(45:03):
my daughter's already picking up on free House and they
knew who he was on the track or even a
horse named rock Hound, you know, and they know how
to pick him up, you know, real easy. So you
asked me about a race later on in the card
at San Anita. Was that the eighth race?

Speaker 9 (45:19):
I did, Bruno, and if you could help us out
with that race. It was a race that I was
hoping that there's a bunch of first timers in there. Yes,
it's it's a maiden fifty. They're going six furlongs. These
are cowbreds obviously with this card, but a lot of
first timers in here, a lot of question marks for
a handicapper like myself. Anything that you could help us

(45:40):
out with in that race, Bruno would be great.

Speaker 6 (45:43):
When you're looking at fifty thousand dollars maiden claimers or
any kind of maiden claimers. Sometimes when they're too good
in the morning, you kind of have a tendency to
back off because maybe their counterfeit in the afternoon, because
if they were any good in the morning, they would
be running for a straight maidens. So a lot of
the times workouts to me.

Speaker 9 (46:00):
I'm a little.

Speaker 6 (46:02):
Go I try to go with the form and look
at the eleven mark on the money with field the motto.
He's drawn outside at six furlongs. They really threw everything
out of the source for this race. They drop in class.
They go turf the dirt route to sprint, and I
love the outside draw and he gets a break on

(46:26):
the waist. I think the rider is going to carry
one hundred and seventeen, which is five pounds less than
everything by everybody else's and that makes a lot of
difference sometimes, and bug boys like to put horses on
her near the lead. I'm very interested to see what
horses like like this one from the twelve hole. And
while I'm talking to you, or I'm trying to pull

(46:46):
up the post positions from from Santa Anita and tell
you exactly how they do in sprinting. Let's see here
as good as San Anita. And but I just think
bad Horse has got a lot of things going forward
because they're really pulling out all the stops to win.

(47:11):
And I like to see that they're kind of telling
you this orse fits for fifty. I'm going to plan
them for fifty and running for fifty and put the
bug boy and and and for example, there's only been
two four races run at a sprint races at from
the twelve from the eleven hole, and the horse is

(47:31):
twenty five percent one for four. So you know, I
can't look at a percentage because there's only been four starts,
but there is a win.

Speaker 9 (47:39):
Not a big enough sample. Absolutely you're you're correct on that.

Speaker 6 (47:44):
So also I want to make sure I'm going to
check scratches and changes real quick for Fairgrounds to make
sure we have any other horses we mentioned are not scratched,
as we have an early post there is there are
off the turf early at it looks back they're off

(48:05):
the turf all the way through out at Fairgrounds. It's
a really good card. And and you got the La
comp and the last races day you got the LA Comp,
which is it's going to be a really good racers
or horse sit in there like a lot. If you've got.

Speaker 9 (48:20):
Time, Bruno, I got, I got thirty seconds, says I
got to bring Jay on if you got If you
want to tell us who you like in the lacomp,
go for it.

Speaker 6 (48:29):
It's the Bradcox source teezer. I'm trying to flip over,
uh disco time. So if anybody ask you who do
you like in the LA Comp, you can say it's
disco time, Steve.

Speaker 9 (48:40):
Disco time for Bruno de Julio. Bruno, thanks so much,
appreciate your your input, have yourself a great day out there,
and uh brunod de Julio join us.

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Speaker 9 (49:49):
All right, the world's cluickest break there as we are
back with Jay Friedlander. Jay, are you there, I'm there.

Speaker 6 (49:59):
Good mornings.

Speaker 9 (50:00):
Thank good morning, Jay. How are you doing doing well?

Speaker 8 (50:05):
Good day to talk about cowbreds. I guess.

Speaker 9 (50:09):
It sure is, Jay. I think it's a It's a
very nice card out at Santa and Eda today, and
you've had yourself a nice week here, hit a couple
of nice trifectas along the way, and then last week
at the fairgrounds you had a nice radio winner and
a trifecta again. And it's amazing, Jay that all your
trifectas seem to be paying seventy seven dollars. I noticed,

(50:33):
what is the deal with that? Are you looking for
these seventy seven dollars? Tries?

Speaker 8 (50:38):
Not exactly, Steve, But what I will say is you've
always liked the idea that the bigger minimums really helped
the prices. And the one thing is about you know,
if you have to play a dollar trifecta, you just
don't get as much coverage. You really have to narrow
it down, and you know it basically knocks a lot
of players out of the pool and you can get
some of these bigger payoffs. Now, when it goes to

(50:59):
some of the t worth a fifty cent one, you
might be more likely to hit it, but the playoffs
aren't going to be as good.

Speaker 9 (51:05):
Absolutely. Yeah, I'm a big fan of a dollar try.
Whenever I've hit a fifty cent try in my life,
I've always said, why didn't I just been a dollar? Anyway,
that's a completely different story. But so Jay, a nice
week for you. You wanted to talk a little bit
about the cowbreds as well. Did you have an opinion

(51:26):
on who was your favorite cowbred of all time? Who
did you think was the best cowbred?

Speaker 8 (51:31):
Okay, let me let me give you a quick speel
on this. I'm gonna mention a couple that we hadn't
talked about offline, But King Glorious was one of my
favorites Northern California horse and as you know, I used
to write for the Thoroughbred Daily News many years ago,
and the Haskell was always, you know, our big day

(51:51):
out there. We just get together and it was like
our Kentucky Derby and New Jersey and King Glorious was worse.
That did very well up in northern California and then
came out and want a bunch of stakes out here,
and he was kind of a rival of Sunday Silence
same year, and then came out and shipped and won
the Haskells, so shocking. Everybody won a big price. And

(52:14):
you know, one of my colleagues at the Thoroughbred Daily
News said, who the heck is King Glorious? Because that
was ten years ago, and I had to kind of
school him on that. The other one that not as
well known is the horse name Shared Belief. Shared Belief
was owned by Jim Rome and Jungle Stables and was
really coming along, kind of had some injury problems in
his three year old year, didn't get to the classic races,

(52:37):
but came on and won the Big Cap and then
knocked off California Chrome in the San Antonio and then
sadly developed some problems. It might have been Collic, but
he passed on from us early. But the two featured horses,
obviously tis Now. Tis Now, I would say, is the
best horse that ever came out of California. He's the

(52:58):
only horse that ever won two Breeders' Cup Classics out
of all the Classics. He's the only one that won
two of them. Unfortunately, it Tis Now did most of
his damage outside the state. He only won a handful
of stakes in California. So even though he was the
best horse ever in California, he wasn't the best horse
who performed in California, and that would have to be

(53:19):
Lava Man. Lava Man, probably my favorite, won eleven straight steaks,
a bunch of them Grade ones, and then among those
were two Hollywood Gold Cups. And then they tried him
on the turf in the Whittingham and he finished second
there and then came back and won a third Hollywood
Gold Cup. I was there for at least two of those,
and that horse was just amazing, and even after that

(53:40):
became a kind of a saddle pony and just really
good natured horse that just loved to be around racing.
So Lava Man easily my all time favorite.

Speaker 9 (53:50):
God he was just a stone cold runner me and
I tell you what, some of those races bringing back chills. Unfortunately,
the shared belief memory with the Jim Romwash is really
the fact that he just got absolutely hammered out of
the gate and maybe one of the worst calls of
all time by the stewarts not to take down a
Baffort winner. I don't even want to say the name

(54:10):
of the horse, but I think it was Bairn that
really took him out of his game. And they didn't
make a change. That was a crazy no change. But yeah,
those are some great ones and bringing back some great memories. Jay,
how about creating another great memory for us today? How
about a winner down at Gulf Stream Park in race eleven.

Speaker 8 (54:32):
Well, let's look at race eleven. This race is off
the turf, as Bruno mentioned, so unfortunately that means our
price probably won't be as good. The favorite by default
now as King of Ashes from Brendan Walsh and Tyler
Gaffleione closed furiously at the end for a good second
and he's going to figure in here today. But the
one I like is a number five Spirit of the Law.

(54:52):
Spirit of Law had a similar pattern. Really didn't want
to sprint. It was against some tough sprinters at Saratoga,
and then added blinkers last time at Belmont and Belmont
at Aqueduct and really improved and hit the gate though
and got off to a bad start and never got
out of seventh, but still finished closer than last time,
stretched him out and they tried him on the Tipeda

(55:14):
course and just really improved. Also a very similar pattern
to the new default favorite King of Ashes, but the
splits were a lot better. Hit the six furlong mark,
just off an eleven and four split where King of
Ashes was chasing a one thirteen split. I just think
Spear of the Log gets first run and knocks off
King of Ashes and takes.

Speaker 9 (55:33):
This aash Jay, an improving horse with a good pattern,
gets lay six, obviously for the first time, as all
these are three year olds. And how about Barkley tag
he's a pretty good trainer.

Speaker 8 (55:47):
Well, he's absolutely good trainer. And because Joe Bravo has
not been riding down there as much he's from he's
obviously Jersey Joe Bravo and he spent some years out here.
I think he flies under the radar a little bit implorid.
I don't think they respect him like the Rties brothers
or like Johnny V. So I think the price will
still be fair on spirit of the law, just isn't

(56:08):
gonna be six to one because.

Speaker 9 (56:09):
Of all the scratches. What a what a solid rider
he is. I was really happy that he had come
out here. I'm kind of disappointed he left. I get it,
but he was a journeyman that if you found a
price horse, especially on the grass, and I think you
know this being unsynthetic, I think that that moves him
up too. I think you got to ride it in
a similar way, certainly a good rider. So Spirit of

(56:32):
the Law. Any any exotics in this race, Jay, it
is gonna be a great play.

Speaker 8 (56:37):
Yet No, it's gonna be the same exotic for both.
And we'll hope we get a price in the second one.
There will be less prices to choose from, but hopefully
we'll still get one. Because it's horse racing, you never know.
Five with all and all with five?

Speaker 9 (56:50):
All right, that's race eleven and number five. Spirit of
the Law for j all right, Jay, I left you
the tenth race. I didn't didn't talk about this one
on the air. This race is named after California Chrome
the cow Cup derby one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars.
Perse got a field of eight going to mile on
the sixteenth and a lot of these coming out of

(57:12):
the same race. Who do you like? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (57:15):
And that race, appropriately enough is the King glorioas so
I just talked about. So this is a race that
you know has been a very productive race over the years,
and you had a blanket finished. Last time, you had
Shaye Brennan a nose in front of I'm a bad
boy who was half a length in front of our Heisman.
And anytime I see a blanket pins like that, heck,

(57:36):
I try to beat them all. And we're gonna look
at an outsider here and that's number seven. Drop him.
Drop him. In his second race, actually beat our Heisman
by a length, So he actually beat one of those
horses by more than they just beat each other. So
I think drop them has a chance to be a
little bit of a standout under the radar here. I

(57:56):
was surprised because in that race that was a stakes
win and kind of stretched out to five and a
half furlongs and faded a little bit at the end
from two lengths to a length, and then last time
out stretched out to a mile and sixteenth. Sometimes when
they fade like that in the sprint, they don't do
as well. But this one just ran very well and
just got up by a neck, but unfortunately interfered with

(58:17):
Mala drifted out a little bit from the rail and
was taken down per second. The splits in that even
though on paper they don't look that fast, we're huge.
He got one hundred and two and one hundred and
seven off the brist numbers. I just think, drop them
flies under the radar here and we'll take on and
beat these three favorites coming out of the big race here.

Speaker 9 (58:37):
Yeah, Jay, I got to say one thing about this
this horse's race and the time is very slow, but
I got to tell you when I watched it on tape,
it was pretty darn impressive. And I did pull the
chart for that day and there was a lot of
really slow races run on the track that day, so
I wouldn't be deterred if you liked this horse by
that final time. Again, I think the horse switch leads nicely,
and it looked like he was good.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
You know.

Speaker 9 (58:58):
Usually when you see a time that slow, you can
just tell that they're just their strides are really short.
But not the case this one. That switch leads, and
I like the fact that he has a couple of
works over the track. So drop them at six to
one with big money Mike Smith and the irons, how
were we going to play this one in the Exotics, Jay, and.

Speaker 8 (59:15):
We're going to wiel that exact to two seven with
all and all with seven. And thank you Jason letting
us have this fun every week. We'll look forward to
seeing you next week.

Speaker 9 (59:25):
Yes we will. Jay, thanks a lot for coming aboard.
I believe we're just about out of time, so I'm
gonna let you go. Jay, have yourself a great day
out there. And I think he just said ten seconds,
So thank everybody for listening this morning. Have yourself a
great day out there, and Jason only back. We'll talk
to you next week.