November 24, 2024 • 39 mins
Joe Escalante's weekly fight against the business end of showbiz. This week: Mike Tyson vs Jake Paul was a legal fiasco, but at least we got to see Mike Tyson's butt! Also, we learn about Joe's personal experience with the fight game, as a manager for a Tijuana fighter who took a dive. Also, Wicked is ruling the box office. It's pretty good, just be prepared for 3 hours of it. And the latest on the bottom falling out on the post-election ratings for CNN and MSNBC. Fox News is fine, because old people haven't stoppped watching them in two decades...
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Joe as Alante live from Hollywood. If by Hollywood you
mean Burbank. We are normally across the street of a
Wiener Snitzel sells beer with two hours of the entertainment
industry's best business news and occasionally critiques and gossip, all
kinds of stuff. Sam, can you hear me? Okay, we are,
(00:32):
we are. We're precarious today.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, we're here. We're getting things together, just you know,
strapping it in as best as we can.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I have a this planet of the tape studio in
Seal Beach that I'm broadcasting from today, and it is
there is no power in the building, no power in
the building. So I'm working on backup power right now
because I'm such a prepper. We'll see how far that goes. Anyway,
let's go to the Tyson You watch the Tyson fight.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yes, of course I did.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
There's some legal issues.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Did it have anything to do with Tyson's butt?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Okay? I believe that was purposeful. I think I believe
that was his genius entertainment. I don't know, I really
don't know. I mean, you watched it live and saw
that unfold.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Oh, good choice of words. Unfold. Yes, Yes, I did
it reminded me. I don't know, if you remember back
in the day, Muhammad Ali fighting Rumble in the Jungle.
After the fight's over, it's him running back to the
locker room and he's really you know, excited, pumped up.
He got the win, and he just drops trout, pulls
everything down. On National TV. Happened, Yeah, that happened back
(01:47):
in Oh yeah, if you watch the live footage from
the Rumble in the Jungle, right after the fight's over,
he was, you know, like rushed back into the locker
room and everything, and he you know, the monsoons were
about to hit, so like it's him just you know,
it was raining, and he just pulls down his shorts
and his protective gear all comes off and it's just
him wandering around naked. On National TV. I think they
(02:10):
cut away moments after that, but yeah, I get the
feeling they may have introduced the like ten second delay
soon after.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Oh yeah, well yeah, so people who don't know who
didn't watch it or didn't watch it, Like I had
one friend that went to the bathroom right when that happened.
Now it's like a poor move, but you know, he's
getting interviewed and was it. Someone said it was his
son who was interviewing him, but I just heard that
from some random weirdo. Anyway, somebody's interviewing him like just
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a sports kind of how are things going, how do
you feel? Blah blah blah, and then they go they
finished the interviewing, Okay, that's all right, all right, well
thanks Mike, and then he goes, okay, thanks, and he
turns around and walks away, and he has like it
looks like he's wearing assless chaps and his bear butt
is just there. And it was a classic. It was
(02:59):
mel Brooks comedy what it was. I think they staged
it and then it worked perfectly.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, that was That was.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Worth the whole price of admission or one hundred dollars
I lost betting on Tyson.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Honestly, at the beginning of the fight, I posted the line,
all I want is one low blow on Jake Paul
and I'll be happy and low and behold first round.
Thirty seconds in he delivered the low blow and I
was happy.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
So the pain that Jake Paul got was worth it
for you.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, one upper cut to the groinal region is all
I really wanted out of that and I got. I
had low expectations, really low expectations, and he nailed them.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Okay, So a lot of people thought it was fixed.
It looked fixed in the way that it was like,
we have to make this go a full ten rounds
or whatever it was. It ten rounds, they're only two minutes.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
It was eight rounds.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah, eight rounds. Okay, we got to make it go
eight rounds. Do you want twenty million? I'm gonna take forty,
you take twenty. This is Jake Paul talking to Mike Tyson.
I'm not gonna hurt you, all right, You're not gonna
hurt me, but we're gonna collick sixty million dollars. Yeah,
and okay, yeah, I can do that. And that's what happened.
(04:16):
So they you know, they threw some punches, they were sparring,
and but for me, I'm wrapped up and I think
maybe Tyson might knock him out any minute. So I
was fooled. I had a great time. I was watching
it at the Biltmore Hotel in Phoenix, at the Citrus
Club down there. I don't know if you've been there.
It's delightful, and I towards the end of the last
(04:41):
round that's when you noticed they were just goofing around.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah right, yeah, well, and you could you could tell
neither one of them was making any real move against
each other in the fight. They were just it was
clear that they knew that they were getting paid. Jake
Paul seemed to have a little like he he never
went in for any kills, and Mike Tyson never went
in for any Yeah, the old like. You could tell.
(05:05):
There were moments where he was making that old move
where he would do the duck dodge and then come
up under and he wanted to throw the punch and
he held back. I get the feeling that, and I said,
if it goes more than two rounds, there's no way
Tyson has the legs to get through it at his age.
I'm impressed that he made it through the way he did,
because I it had completely slipped my mind that the
(05:28):
fight was initially canceled because he had like he needed
like eight blood transfusions and like for him to come
back months after that kind of health scare, that to
me alone, is really impressive. I think I don't think
he was in best health, but he was just strong
enough to be able to go eight rounds. Of two minutes.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, so it was you know, for some people that
are really mad. Some people were The guy that I
bet one hundred dollars against was was very happy because
I was just betting to bet. I was just like,
you want to bet, who do you want to take?
You know that kind of thing. I'll take Paul, all right,
I'll take Tyson. And it made it interesting, It made
it really worth it, and I didn't have to waste
(06:18):
any time any money flying to Dallas to get excited
about it. But there is a legal issue in this
situation outside of the fight fixing, and fight fixing could
lodge a complaint saying or someone might be able to
file outsit and say, hey, this is a fixed fight
hard to prove. One time in my brief career as
(06:42):
a boxing manager, Sam I was part of a fixed fight.
My friend said, Hey, I'm I'm fighting this guy in
Tijuana and he's some old man and they want me
to come and let him knock me out and I'm
to get some money. And I just like, it was Tijuana.
(07:04):
It was crazy, and I just thought I had no
moral compunctions about it. I was just like, I want
to witness what happens how does a fight get fixed? Yeah,
And I watched it, and so I just sat there,
you know, I'm not I'm just I was in law school,
like not even you know, legally supposed to be able
to do something like this, and I was just like, oh,
(07:25):
this is the manager, okay. And then so we go
to the guy's house that is gonna gonna win, and
my client we sit there, you know, they serve up
some beers and we're all sitting around this you know,
kind of nice place in Tijuana, and they stage, they
choreograph how it's going to go.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Wow, really and.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah, and he goes, okay, third round. I come in
like this, you do this, I do that, and they go,
I don't know if that's gonna work. Let's try this, Okay,
how about if you come in and do this. There's
a language barrier too, because my client on the spookas okay,
spoke Spanish. But there we're get we're getting through it.
(08:07):
And I'm not participating in that because I'm just I'm
just watching. It's hilarious to me. I'm just doing this.
I can tell the story, you know. And they staged it,
they figured it out, and and they're all ready to go,
and so then we leave and we go and I
have some burritos or something and come back to the
to the stadium wherever the way stuff and some boxing
(08:31):
official from Tijuana. I think he smelled a rat and
he called the whole fight off during the during the
weigh in.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Wow, did show up with a martini and like a
cigarette in his mouth and said, don't worry, I got this.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Seriously, it was about to that point. The guy was
about sixty something years old and my client was in
his twenties. Oh wow, but I got to see it.
It was It was hilarious, you know. But in this fight,
there is a legal issue and it has to do
with Netflix and they're broadcast not whether the fight was fixed.
(09:09):
So let's take a break, go come back. I'll explain
how that's gonna work and whether this guy suing has
any chance of prevailing. You're listening to Joe Escalante Live
from Hollywood, all right, We love to Joe Escalante live
from the Hollywood. If by Hollywood you mean Burbank Today
broadcasting from the Planet of the Tape studio with cell service.
(09:33):
And because I have a power outage in the building here,
they're out there trying to work on it, but we'll
see what happened. We were talking about the ice In
fight and whether it was fixed or not. Yeah, if
it's fixed or not. The legal issues are kind of
(09:54):
hard to prove, and so I was going to get
into the Netflix legal issues and they because they have
some problems. But you were telling me that you're saying
the female undercard was because that seemed like all the
great compared to the Patty Cake of the of the
actual main event.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Well, I feel like the fight with Tyson was more
or less expected. I think everybody kind of expected there
to be a little bit shenanigans because it was all
a matter of just trying to get you know, attention
and hype around it. But they knew that they this
was an exhibition. It wasn't going to necessarily be a
competitive fight. But there was other competitive fights. And the
(10:34):
one that I felt like the that had a tinge
of having a little bit shenanigans around it was the
Katie Taylor Amanda Serrano fight. That one was one where
Serrano got a giant gash.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
What's wrong with Katie and Amanda? Why are they always fighting?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I don't know, It's just how they go, this is
their second fight, and I think they're going to have
a third one lined up because they just can't stop.
They just can't quit each other. But this is one
where like I think Serrano had like thrown and connected
on over two hundred more punches and she was headbutted
several times throughout the fight and had a point deducted
(11:10):
and still lost the fight. And it was like visually,
from from everybody's perspective, from the commentator's perspective, from everybody
ringside except for the three judges, it was Serrano winning
the fight, and everybody was really disappointed by that outcome.
So if there's any shenanigans in any of the fights,
I feel like it was that one. But I expect everybody.
(11:33):
I expected the t one to have it.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Everybody I watched the fight with felt exactly the way
you did, as you as you're saying, I had the
opposite I scored it the opposite way. And so when
the judges announced their decision, I was satisfied and not surprised.
I thought, I thought she went, but and no one
agrees with me except for those judges, So I don't know.
(11:59):
But no, none of you have been in a room
where a fight was fixed.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
All right, that's true. So I can't really you come
from a point of expertise on the subject.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I was in a room where a where a fight
is being fixed in Tijuana. Okay, that's living. That's what
I say. That's living. I just kind of go where
a thing. People say, well, oh, Joe, there's another story.
It's crazy and the kind of way I ended up
in radio anyway because of how these crazy stories. Ah it,
just I go where the stories are. Someone tells me, Hey,
(12:31):
I need help fixing a fight in Tijuana, and I'm like,
you know what, this might be wrong, but I need
to be in that room. So I'm going to get
my car and I'm going to drive down there, and
we're gonna We're going.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
To do this.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Now. If it was in the United States America, where
I've sworn allegiance to obey all the laws, I would
not do it, of course, But Tijuana, come on, anything goes.
And I've been so well behaved in Tijuana over my
career of going to Tijuana as an underage drinker and
all that kind of stuff. I never got arrested, I
never got in trouble. I've never been arrested in any country.
(13:05):
But yeah, you know, everybody's got one. And that was
my that was my big crime.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
You are a fine upstanding citizen, by the way.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Other than that one slip up, you know, I forgot.
I don't think I have confessed that in the confessional.
I'd go on next. I would just I went to
confession on Tuesday and it wasn't on my mind. But
I think I'll jot it down in my little notepad
and yeah, and do it next time. And that priest
(13:37):
is going to say, look, look, Joe, sick of these
tall tales. You're telling me nobody was fixing a fight
in Tijuana in the eighties. Stop it? Okay, So here's
the legal case. I mean, there's the legal show. The
legal case. Actually, a lawsuit has been filed against Netflix
(13:58):
for the broadcast quality was yours going out?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah it glitched right on Tyson's but.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Oh really, mine didn't glitch. Then I saw that whole thing.
But but but there were so many glitches and such
a bad quality of broadcasts that people, you know, felt
they got ripped off. But to me, what are your
damages when you're getting ripped off in a Netflix fight?
(14:26):
I mean, what's your What are you paying sixteen dollars
a month or something for your Netflix? So if I'm Netflix,
I'm like, all right, let's see. So that's like fifty
cents a day. Here's a couple of quarters. Well maybe
you could say that you were having a big event
and it got ruined. Maybe you could. But here's how
you do. Here's how you file a lawsuit like that,
(14:48):
and this is how they work. You file them under
the Consumer Fraud Act, usually Consumer Fraud Act, and you say,
I'm filing a class action lawsuit on behalf of on
behalf of all the consumers. Then you collect a bunch
of consumers that were wronged, and then according to the
Consumer Fraud Act, there could be a giant award to
punish Netflix and make sure they never do it again
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and don't perpetuate the scheme on the public. So that's
how you get all these you know, cards in the
mail that say like, hey, we're part of a class
action suit against Avon or whatever. And then you say
you you were an Avon customer, probably a year ago.
Do you fill this thing out and you're going to
get a part of an award, which really means they're
going to get hundreds of thousands of people are going
(15:31):
to be splitting a million dollar reward and you're going
to get a coupon for Avon Cologne in the shape
of a motor coach for your troubles something like that.
They're never worth it. Now, this case is different because
one guy. It's not a class action suit. Some guy
(15:54):
named Ronald Denton calls himself Ronald Blue Denton from hills
Borough County, Florida. Only in Florida. He filed a lawsuit
as an individual in court and said I want compensation.
I don't know what his damages are. He's saying, sixty
million Americans were hyped to see Iron Mike Tyson the
baddest man on the planet versus YouTube returned Drigon Prize
(16:16):
fighter Jake Paul. What they saw was the baddest streaming
on the planet. So, you know, massive streaming issues he's complaining.
Florida lawsuit complains that there were one hundred thousand people
complaining online. Okay, but I just don't understand why he
didn't file it as a class action suit. I think
(16:38):
he's trying to get a big award for himself. Like
I you know, maybe an amount could be determined at trial.
I want a million dollars. I don't know if that's
going to work. And also if you're filing an individual
because I could go file a claim, I mean I
know how to do it, and you can get a
form complaint too. You can get this form and you
can just fill it out in cran People in prison
do it all the time, filing lawsuits all over the place.
(17:00):
You can do this, but sooner or later you're gonna
be if they don't feel like settling right away, you're
gonna be wiped out legally because they have enough money
to pay these lawyers and you probably don't. So you're
trying to, you know, get this scheme going and just
hopefully you can just kind of go to court represent yourself.
(17:22):
Nothing wrong with that, but you're gonna get wiped out
pretty soon. They're going to file on so many motions
and delays and stuff like that. You're gonna lose. If
you file a class action suit and you do it properly,
then you leave it to the lawyers. You could be
the named plaintiff. Maybe you'll get some money, but it's
no way to go through life. Sam So anyone thinking
(17:43):
about doing this, It's better to just concentrate on whatever
you're good at and go back to work.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah, let's take it to break.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Fatherly advice, all right, and taking a break. I'm coming
back more. Joe Scalante Live from Hollywood. Joe Le's Goalante
Live from Hollywood. If by Hollywood you mean Burbank. Uh,
two hours of the business end of show Business every
Sunday from five to seven today. Uh, we're broadcasting from
(18:17):
Seal Beach and we're making it work. But I got
so I'm all on battery power. All back up, sam. Uh,
let's go to the movies. Let's let's check the box
office out. Yeah, who's the winner. Who's the winner for
the big weekend box office competition number one? We all
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know who it is.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Right Yeah, No, I know why. My my parking lot
is full right now?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Oh yeah, all day long. I'll bet yesterday too.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Oh yeah, it's been a week. It's been crazy because of.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Wicked pulled, pulled in one hundred and fourteen million this
weekend at the box office. Uh. People, people were, you know,
buying advanced tickets. A lot of advanced screenings sold out and
everybody I went yesterday at three forty five in the afternoon,
I got a nice seat over there at the Bellata
and Huntington Beach, and half the ladies in there were
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wearing like wicked jackets that they got, you know, the
Broadway experience that they had where on Broadway. I guess anyway,
three hours big deal to get that much money in
three hours, because it's hard to screen that many screenings
in one day because it's too long. It's all only
a wicked part one as well. Number two is Gladiator two?
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Do you like Gladiator movies?
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Sam? Only after watching Airplane?
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Okay, I know, after Airplane, I was like, I got
to check out these Gladiator movies. They sound tantalized exactly.
Red one is a Christmas movie? Is number three. Bond
Hoffer Pastor Spy a Sass from Angels Studios. Number four.
These Christian movies are just killing it. Venom the last Dance.
(20:06):
I don't know, you know, Superhero Movie number five probably
not kinda not a big success. The best Christmas pageant ever,
Number six, heretic, number seven, Wild Robot, the best movie
I've seen all year? Number eight, Smile to number nine,
and a Real Pain Number ten, and Conclave, which a
lot of people say is pretty good. I haven't seen
it number eleven, so we get I saw it yesterday, Sam,
(20:32):
did you see it?
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Not yet, we're saving it for Tuesday. I did see
the Venom movie, though, and how's that entertaining? It wasn't bad.
I know it gets knocked on by a lot of
people who were expecting more from Venom as far as
the series goes and cool, but it was still a
fun send off and I enjoyed it with the kids.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Okay, yeah, you got kids, that's a whole different world.
But have you seen Wild Robot.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
No been wanting to see Wild roboty.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Your kids to see that or see it on the streaming. Yeah,
I'd say I'd say best movie of the year and Wicked.
That brings me to a The chatter about Wicked is
that Ariana Grande is gonna win a Oscar. Now they're
(21:22):
saying best supporting actress. But to me, I'm watching this
movie and I'm saying, I'm saying she's the best actress.
I don't. I don't, I don't. It's not really a
supporting role to me. I don't know. They they so
they got to figure that out. And sometimes they figure
it out by saying, who else is being nominated? I
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want to be in this if they have a choice,
because you know what is supporting and what is the
lead actress. It's not always obvious. So will she deserve it?
It's not really what the show's about. But I can
give you my opinion since I did see it. She
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definitely deserves a nomination. And I'll tell you why. What
she brought to that movie was that everybody who saw
in the theater on Broadway live theater, you're getting this
one kind of experience, but you're never getting the nuances
of the actress's face right. You're too far away. There's
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no close ups, so you miss that. And she she
brought that element. And I don't think I've ever seen
a performance where I'm just so like riveted by her
reactions like and her facial expressions. And she's acting without speaking,
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and you see here off to the side when the
action is maybe over in one part of the screen
and she's reacting to it in another part of the screen.
She is a pro. I've never seen anybody this good,
So I would give it. I would give her an
oscar just for her nonverbal skills, and of course she's beautiful.
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She's looks unhealthy. You know, she needs a sandwich. But
that's what they do these days, and it's kind of
part of the plot. I guess. The part of the
plot is people are beautiful inside and you have to realize.
I think that's their message. And what do I know?
You know, I'm not this wicked lady or something like that.
I saw it once in the theater only because my
next door neighbor was in the chorus.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
So did you like it in the theater?
Speaker 1 (23:39):
I mean, it's it's really it's a cinematic achieve It's
one of those things where this is a cinematic achievement.
This is a milestone again adapting a play to a movie.
Would I go see it again?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
No?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Three hours. I gotta tell you, I saw more people
walk out in the middle of the movie than I
did when I saw The Room at its Hollywood debut.
I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I did not see
The Room at Hollywood. But three I'm in the fifth row.
I got it. There's a and don't it's a really
(24:17):
good seat at the at the Cinema XD Cinema and
the fifth row. It's an elevated thing. It's great. There's
only four rows in front of me. I watched three
separate parties leave. One of them stood up and said
this makes no sense and they walked out, and the
other two next to me, we're just like two ladies.
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They say I'm done, They're out, and then then another
group left. I don't know what was going on behind me.
I have to assume more people left because it's just like,
who has time for this? But what a cinematic achievement.
And the last ten minutes are insane. I'm gonna give
you that. Okay, Now there's a lot, there's a lot
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of It's a little bit it's confusing because they've show
you the really attractive people, which are the you know,
the lead boy and girl, and then you have the
witch who's you know, unfortunately she's green and she doesn't
dress well, and so you're you're, you know, you're you're
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kind of like, hey, look at this, and then a
lot of weird looking people in the chorus, so you
really want to look at at Ariana Grande and she's
really good, so you're kind of you're drawn to that.
You're kind of, ah, the opposite whatever the opposite of
drawn is to some other things going on in the screen.
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It's a confusing. I wouldn't say repulsed, because it's not
like that. It's just kind of like our eyes are
trained for certain things. Yeah, they are trying. They are
trained to seek out beauty on the screen in the cinema,
and then there's beauty, and then there's not and then
you're And it might have given me a headache, but
I get the I get the message. Beauty's on the inside.
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I guess I'm too shallow to really absorb it. But
I'm also you know, when people start singing, I'm a guy,
and I'm like, why are they singing? But they're good.
Everything's the song's good, the music's good, the visuals or
or next level. So you got to go see it,
I think, Okay, but you gotta be you gotta be
(26:26):
ready for three hours. And I was ready.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Okay. See that's the thing. You went through three hours
of of people just trying to get outraged with that
that what was it? The Moon movie from last year?
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
But now it's uh. And I learned a very valuable
lesson from that is that you shouldn't have to pay
money to be outraged for three hours. You can just
sit at home and do that for free.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
What movie was? What was the Moon movie from last year?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
The movie about the Native Americans back in nineteen the
early nineteen hundreds and their land being.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Oh yeah under the flower Moon are yeah yeah that way, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Where it's understandable people getting outraged by it. But do
you really want to spend money to sit there for
three hours to get outraged when we can just sit
at home and do that for free.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
That was eat your peas type stuff. Yeah, and this
movie was was pleasant and wonderful most of the time.
Maybe a little long, but whatever. You know, am I
going to see part two? Absolutely? I'm going to go
see part two? So you got to see it.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
You're going to watch another three hours of it?
Speaker 1 (27:38):
I will? I will, So I guess you know I'm
complaining a little bit.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Okay, So it sounds like it was okay, well, okay
enough to make it through?
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yeah? Oh absolutely, no, you be ready for three hours.
I mean there's really good stuff in it. There's funny things,
you know, go Blum, Jeff Goblums, he's really good in it. Okay,
cool and and Ariana grind is amazing in it. The
other one, you know, it did a great job in
her role, the Green Lady. She had a great job.
But you know, it's that's a hard one. She's all
(28:10):
everything stacked against her on that to be to be like,
you know, entertaining or mesmerizing. But and uh are you
are Youana Grandee Grande is just a big star, and
so it's it's it's great to see a big star,
(28:33):
you know, so young and early in their career, and
how awesome she's going to develop as an actress. She
doesn't need to be running around, you know, playing concerts.
She can have a great career as a movie star
if she wants to. And she's going to be bankable,
and so good for her. A break, all right, Okay,
(28:57):
I just want did you see any movie this week?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I saw Venom? That was the one I caught.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Oh yeah, you saw Venom? Ok good enough. Other than that,
I saw King of Comedy. I'll just say one thing
about King of Comedy. It's one of the greatest movies
ever made with Robert de Niro and as Rupert Pumpkin
and Jerry Lewis, Sandra Bernhard. That's amazing all these three people.
The interesting thing is now, if you watch interviews with
(29:25):
Robert de Niro after the election, he was so wrapped
up in it. You know he's become Rupert Pupkin when
he's explaining what's gonna happen to this country if Donald
Trump is elected? It's Rupert Pupkin. Now, if you don't
know who Rupert Pupkin is, watch The King of Comedy.
And it's my recommendation if you haven't seen it. Nineteen
(29:47):
eighty two movie Scorsese. One of the greatest movies ever made.
All right, let's take a break, come back, Jo was
going to Live from Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah, h.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
H Joe Aska Hante. Here's my lawyer. You don't want money.
He does it all for you. And he knows he's
told you.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Oh yes, he knows.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
It was Galante Live from Hollywood. By Hollywood you mean Burbank. Hey, Sam,
So you're telling me you never saw The King of Comedy,
starring Jerry Lewis, Robert De Niro, and Sander Bernhard, directed
by Martin Scorsese.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
That's correct. I have yet to see that one.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Okay, well, can I encourage you to watch it? I
watched it on the Criteria on channel I don't know
where else. You can watch it for free, but the
Criterion is expensive.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
See the thing is Criterion. It doesn't show up there's
an option on my Samsung TV, so I haven't been
able to download that. However, I could probably get that
on my No.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
No, no, you guys, search you search apps. I did.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I can't find the Criterion app. It's it's heartbreaking.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
There I have it, I have it online.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Oh well, I have to do it. But I searched this.
Look again, I will look again.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Again. Uh, but I will tell you that all the
when they roll out a new Samsung TV, I think
they have it's the best TV ever made. But when
they roll them out, they have different softwares in that
are that are governing the interface. So you can have
like I have one upstairs in my house that has
one interface and one downstairs it's that has a different one,
(31:51):
and I'm just waiting for the whichever is the older
one to catch up. So it's a little bit weird, okay,
but they really are working hard to make TV amazing.
But we still go to the movie theaters, so I'm
still always a big thing about this show is to
encourage people go to the movie theaters. I had a
great time watching Wicked, even though you know, maybe it's
(32:13):
not for me, but you gotta be ready, and it
was awesome. I had a pizza, had a reclining seat. Okay,
The King of Comedy in nineteen eighty two, you got
to you gotta watch this. Robert de Niro plays a
stand up comic who's an autograph hound. Him and Sandra
Bernhard are just part of this autograph hound culture and
(32:35):
they just are obsessed with its. Johnny Carson type character
played by Jerry Lewis and Robert DeNiro lives in his
basement and he practices comedy all day long. He's never
performed anywhere. He just like has a like a little
setup down in his basement to make it pretend like
(32:57):
he's in a nightclub. And then but Rupert Pupkin is
his name. And and it's funny because definitely if you watch,
if you watch the rox, Robert de Niro on the
Bill Maher Show and he's talking about I think it
was Bill Maher, what's gonna happen to us after trugs elected?
He's elected? He said, you won't be on the air
(33:19):
that come after me. You won't believe what happens with
these kind of dictators. And you know what it's I'm
not saying he's of course he's allowed to have this opinion,
but he's gone so far off the deep end. He
sounds like Ruper Pupkin delusional in a way. And people
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on both sides they get that wrapped up in politics,
they get delusional, they start you know, suffering from from
you know, like oh, this is gonna happen, that's gonna
and and and kind of delusions that Rupert Pupkin had.
So definitely Ruper Pupkin. Uh, speaking of these political types,
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have you heard about this, Sam So MSNBC. I mean,
this is a big TV story, is that MSNBC n
CNN's ratings took a dive right after the election. Now
a lot of people are saying, oh, this is because
they lied or they were on the wrong side. That's
not really the case. The case is MSNBC and CNN
(34:26):
they do broadcast towards the lefty people, and then if
the lefties lose, they don't want to be reminded about
the laws, So why would they watch TV? So they
drop out for a while. So I don't think there
should be a big panic box is ratings and their
their revenue doing fine because their guy won. So now
(34:47):
you go there and you go and you celebrate. But
to me, I like to watch whoever's losing. On an
election night, I was watching whoever was losing. Like to
watch the meltdowns. But MSNBC, I think they're overreacting, or
(35:08):
maybe it's just an excuse to dump it and unload it,
because they're saying they're going to put it, They're going
to put that together. It's owned by NB a conglomeration,
a Comcast, uh, and they're they're they're going to put
it up for sale and along with some other channels,
and they might buy it.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Sam who might buy it? Elon Musk Oh, Wow, that's
not shocking. He has all the money in the universe.
He could literally buy every media conglomerate.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
The The question was posed to him and he said,
how much does it cost? Uh, I mean it can't
be much, look at the ratings, but this would be
the time to buy MSNBC because the ratings are down,
but they're going to go back up because this is
(36:05):
the lowest they're ever going to get. And then you
come in there and you fire some people and you
change the sets around a little bit, and you and
then it goes up in value and you sell it.
I mean I would do, but they pay too much
money to those hosts, like Rachel Maddow gets something like
thirty million dollars a year. She only has to work
(36:28):
one day a week. That's a mistake, but they do
that because those are big names and they can go
and they can go to CNN, ABC. You know, someone
could steal Rachel Maddow and over at Fox they get
they get like a fifth of that the big stars,
because where are they going to go. They can't go
(36:51):
to MSNBC, they can't go to CBS, a BS. So
everybody those other networks are competing for these big stars
and up their price. But if their revenue from the
low ratings and justifying it, you got to get rid
of these people and you got to start over with
people that eat off of YouTube. And it seems like
that's where the energy is anyway, these people on YouTube.
(37:12):
So if I was it m B NBC, I just
go get the best guys from YouTube and and put
them and put them on there. The Rachel Maddows that
are that are overpriced. Oh that's my advice, one ever
calls me.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
No, that's not a bad idea, considering the fact that
most of the younger viewers tend to swing towards watching
YouTube over broadcast news on television. I haven't sat and
watched any I haven't watched CNN or Fox News or
MS MSNBC on on actual television and maybe a decade
(37:47):
because I get almost all of my news just in small,
digestible bites on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
A couple hours after it airs. It's all right there
on YouTube. Yeah, and YouTube is everything right now, that's
where that's where people are going. And so what you
do is you get a YouTube star and you give
him a big platform and they're going to be happy,
and you pay him a decent salary and maybe let
them keep some of their YouTube revenue and you kind
of share that. And I think that's a way to
(38:16):
solve that problem. And and Fox's problem is they're advertising.
It's this old people cafeters, gold, reverse mortgages. It's a
pity the advertising that's on Fox News. It's gross. I mean,
it's just depressing. But they're making enough. In my Pellow guy,
you know that stuff. They don't even pay my pellow guy,
(38:38):
I mean, he doesn't even pay to have these commercials.
He gets he shares a revenue of my pillow with Fox.
That's why they have these little codes that explains that
there's no dignity in that. No digney, no dignity. I'm
still awaiting his cabinet position. But we'll see how that goes.
Secretary of Comfort.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
I don't know that would be lovely. Let's take her heart, right,
I think I think we're done, yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
With the segment and this segment of segments, and then we'll, uh, well,
let's leave everybody with just a taste of the greatest
song ever written, and we'll see everybody later. M hm
Joe as Alante live from Hollywood. If by Hollywood you
mean Burbank. We are normally across the street of a
Wiener Snitzel sells beer with two hours of the entertainment
industry's best business news and occasionally critiques and gossip, all
kinds of stuff. Sam, can you hear me? Okay, we are,
(00:32):
we are. We're precarious today.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, we're here. We're getting things together, just you know,
strapping it in as best as we can.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I have a this planet of the tape studio in
Seal Beach that I'm broadcasting from today, and it is
there is no power in the building, no power in
the building. So I'm working on backup power right now
because I'm such a prepper. We'll see how far that goes. Anyway,
let's go to the Tyson You watch the Tyson fight.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yes, of course I did.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
There's some legal issues.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Did it have anything to do with Tyson's butt?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Okay? I believe that was purposeful. I think I believe
that was his genius entertainment. I don't know, I really
don't know. I mean, you watched it live and saw
that unfold.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Oh, good choice of words. Unfold. Yes, Yes, I did
it reminded me. I don't know, if you remember back
in the day, Muhammad Ali fighting Rumble in the Jungle.
After the fight's over, it's him running back to the
locker room and he's really you know, excited, pumped up.
He got the win, and he just drops trout, pulls
everything down. On National TV. Happened, Yeah, that happened back
(01:47):
in Oh yeah, if you watch the live footage from
the Rumble in the Jungle, right after the fight's over,
he was, you know, like rushed back into the locker
room and everything, and he you know, the monsoons were
about to hit, so like it's him just you know,
it was raining, and he just pulls down his shorts
and his protective gear all comes off and it's just
him wandering around naked. On National TV. I think they
(02:10):
cut away moments after that, but yeah, I get the
feeling they may have introduced the like ten second delay
soon after.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Oh yeah, well yeah, so people who don't know who
didn't watch it or didn't watch it, Like I had
one friend that went to the bathroom right when that happened.
Now it's like a poor move, but you know, he's
getting interviewed and was it. Someone said it was his
son who was interviewing him, but I just heard that
from some random weirdo. Anyway, somebody's interviewing him like just
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a sports kind of how are things going, how do
you feel? Blah blah blah, and then they go they
finished the interviewing, Okay, that's all right, all right, well
thanks Mike, and then he goes, okay, thanks, and he
turns around and walks away, and he has like it
looks like he's wearing assless chaps and his bear butt
is just there. And it was a classic. It was
(02:59):
mel Brooks comedy what it was. I think they staged
it and then it worked perfectly.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, that was That was.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Worth the whole price of admission or one hundred dollars
I lost betting on Tyson.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Honestly, at the beginning of the fight, I posted the line,
all I want is one low blow on Jake Paul
and I'll be happy and low and behold first round.
Thirty seconds in he delivered the low blow and I
was happy.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
So the pain that Jake Paul got was worth it
for you.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, one upper cut to the groinal region is all
I really wanted out of that and I got. I
had low expectations, really low expectations, and he nailed them.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Okay, So a lot of people thought it was fixed.
It looked fixed in the way that it was like,
we have to make this go a full ten rounds
or whatever it was. It ten rounds, they're only two minutes.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
It was eight rounds.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah, eight rounds. Okay, we got to make it go
eight rounds. Do you want twenty million? I'm gonna take forty,
you take twenty. This is Jake Paul talking to Mike Tyson.
I'm not gonna hurt you, all right, You're not gonna
hurt me, but we're gonna collick sixty million dollars. Yeah,
and okay, yeah, I can do that. And that's what happened.
(04:16):
So they you know, they threw some punches, they were sparring,
and but for me, I'm wrapped up and I think
maybe Tyson might knock him out any minute. So I
was fooled. I had a great time. I was watching
it at the Biltmore Hotel in Phoenix, at the Citrus
Club down there. I don't know if you've been there.
It's delightful, and I towards the end of the last
(04:41):
round that's when you noticed they were just goofing around.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah right, yeah, well, and you could you could tell
neither one of them was making any real move against
each other in the fight. They were just it was
clear that they knew that they were getting paid. Jake
Paul seemed to have a little like he he never
went in for any kills, and Mike Tyson never went
in for any Yeah, the old like. You could tell.
(05:05):
There were moments where he was making that old move
where he would do the duck dodge and then come
up under and he wanted to throw the punch and
he held back. I get the feeling that, and I said,
if it goes more than two rounds, there's no way
Tyson has the legs to get through it at his age.
I'm impressed that he made it through the way he did,
because I it had completely slipped my mind that the
(05:28):
fight was initially canceled because he had like he needed
like eight blood transfusions and like for him to come
back months after that kind of health scare, that to
me alone, is really impressive. I think I don't think
he was in best health, but he was just strong
enough to be able to go eight rounds. Of two minutes.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, so it was you know, for some people that
are really mad. Some people were The guy that I
bet one hundred dollars against was was very happy because
I was just betting to bet. I was just like,
you want to bet, who do you want to take?
You know that kind of thing. I'll take Paul, all right,
I'll take Tyson. And it made it interesting, It made
it really worth it, and I didn't have to waste
(06:18):
any time any money flying to Dallas to get excited
about it. But there is a legal issue in this
situation outside of the fight fixing, and fight fixing could
lodge a complaint saying or someone might be able to
file outsit and say, hey, this is a fixed fight
hard to prove. One time in my brief career as
(06:42):
a boxing manager, Sam I was part of a fixed fight.
My friend said, Hey, I'm I'm fighting this guy in
Tijuana and he's some old man and they want me
to come and let him knock me out and I'm
to get some money. And I just like, it was Tijuana.
(07:04):
It was crazy, and I just thought I had no
moral compunctions about it. I was just like, I want
to witness what happens how does a fight get fixed? Yeah,
And I watched it, and so I just sat there,
you know, I'm not I'm just I was in law school,
like not even you know, legally supposed to be able
to do something like this, and I was just like, oh,
(07:25):
this is the manager, okay. And then so we go
to the guy's house that is gonna gonna win, and
my client we sit there, you know, they serve up
some beers and we're all sitting around this you know,
kind of nice place in Tijuana, and they stage, they
choreograph how it's going to go.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Wow, really and.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah, and he goes, okay, third round. I come in
like this, you do this, I do that, and they go,
I don't know if that's gonna work. Let's try this, Okay,
how about if you come in and do this. There's
a language barrier too, because my client on the spookas okay,
spoke Spanish. But there we're get we're getting through it.
(08:07):
And I'm not participating in that because I'm just I'm
just watching. It's hilarious to me. I'm just doing this.
I can tell the story, you know. And they staged it,
they figured it out, and and they're all ready to go,
and so then we leave and we go and I
have some burritos or something and come back to the
to the stadium wherever the way stuff and some boxing
(08:31):
official from Tijuana. I think he smelled a rat and
he called the whole fight off during the during the
weigh in.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Wow, did show up with a martini and like a
cigarette in his mouth and said, don't worry, I got this.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Seriously, it was about to that point. The guy was
about sixty something years old and my client was in
his twenties. Oh wow, but I got to see it.
It was It was hilarious, you know. But in this fight,
there is a legal issue and it has to do
with Netflix and they're broadcast not whether the fight was fixed.
(09:09):
So let's take a break, go come back. I'll explain
how that's gonna work and whether this guy suing has
any chance of prevailing. You're listening to Joe Escalante Live
from Hollywood, all right, We love to Joe Escalante live
from the Hollywood. If by Hollywood you mean Burbank Today
broadcasting from the Planet of the Tape studio with cell service.
(09:33):
And because I have a power outage in the building here,
they're out there trying to work on it, but we'll
see what happened. We were talking about the ice In
fight and whether it was fixed or not. Yeah, if
it's fixed or not. The legal issues are kind of
(09:54):
hard to prove, and so I was going to get
into the Netflix legal issues and they because they have
some problems. But you were telling me that you're saying
the female undercard was because that seemed like all the
great compared to the Patty Cake of the of the
actual main event.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Well, I feel like the fight with Tyson was more
or less expected. I think everybody kind of expected there
to be a little bit shenanigans because it was all
a matter of just trying to get you know, attention
and hype around it. But they knew that they this
was an exhibition. It wasn't going to necessarily be a
competitive fight. But there was other competitive fights. And the
(10:34):
one that I felt like the that had a tinge
of having a little bit shenanigans around it was the
Katie Taylor Amanda Serrano fight. That one was one where
Serrano got a giant gash.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
What's wrong with Katie and Amanda? Why are they always fighting?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I don't know, It's just how they go, this is
their second fight, and I think they're going to have
a third one lined up because they just can't stop.
They just can't quit each other. But this is one
where like I think Serrano had like thrown and connected
on over two hundred more punches and she was headbutted
several times throughout the fight and had a point deducted
(11:10):
and still lost the fight. And it was like visually,
from from everybody's perspective, from the commentator's perspective, from everybody
ringside except for the three judges, it was Serrano winning
the fight, and everybody was really disappointed by that outcome.
So if there's any shenanigans in any of the fights,
I feel like it was that one. But I expect everybody.
(11:33):
I expected the t one to have it.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Everybody I watched the fight with felt exactly the way
you did, as you as you're saying, I had the
opposite I scored it the opposite way. And so when
the judges announced their decision, I was satisfied and not surprised.
I thought, I thought she went, but and no one
agrees with me except for those judges, So I don't know.
(11:59):
But no, none of you have been in a room
where a fight was fixed.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
All right, that's true. So I can't really you come
from a point of expertise on the subject.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I was in a room where a where a fight
is being fixed in Tijuana. Okay, that's living. That's what
I say. That's living. I just kind of go where
a thing. People say, well, oh, Joe, there's another story.
It's crazy and the kind of way I ended up
in radio anyway because of how these crazy stories. Ah it,
just I go where the stories are. Someone tells me, Hey,
(12:31):
I need help fixing a fight in Tijuana, and I'm like,
you know what, this might be wrong, but I need
to be in that room. So I'm going to get
my car and I'm going to drive down there, and
we're gonna We're going.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
To do this.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Now. If it was in the United States America, where
I've sworn allegiance to obey all the laws, I would
not do it, of course, But Tijuana, come on, anything goes.
And I've been so well behaved in Tijuana over my
career of going to Tijuana as an underage drinker and
all that kind of stuff. I never got arrested, I
never got in trouble. I've never been arrested in any country.
(13:05):
But yeah, you know, everybody's got one. And that was
my that was my big crime.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
You are a fine upstanding citizen, by the way.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Other than that one slip up, you know, I forgot.
I don't think I have confessed that in the confessional.
I'd go on next. I would just I went to
confession on Tuesday and it wasn't on my mind. But
I think I'll jot it down in my little notepad
and yeah, and do it next time. And that priest
(13:37):
is going to say, look, look, Joe, sick of these
tall tales. You're telling me nobody was fixing a fight
in Tijuana in the eighties. Stop it? Okay, So here's
the legal case. I mean, there's the legal show. The
legal case. Actually, a lawsuit has been filed against Netflix
(13:58):
for the broadcast quality was yours going out?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah it glitched right on Tyson's but.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Oh really, mine didn't glitch. Then I saw that whole thing.
But but but there were so many glitches and such
a bad quality of broadcasts that people, you know, felt
they got ripped off. But to me, what are your
damages when you're getting ripped off in a Netflix fight?
(14:26):
I mean, what's your What are you paying sixteen dollars
a month or something for your Netflix? So if I'm Netflix,
I'm like, all right, let's see. So that's like fifty
cents a day. Here's a couple of quarters. Well maybe
you could say that you were having a big event
and it got ruined. Maybe you could. But here's how
you do. Here's how you file a lawsuit like that,
(14:48):
and this is how they work. You file them under
the Consumer Fraud Act, usually Consumer Fraud Act, and you say,
I'm filing a class action lawsuit on behalf of on
behalf of all the consumers. Then you collect a bunch
of consumers that were wronged, and then according to the
Consumer Fraud Act, there could be a giant award to
punish Netflix and make sure they never do it again
(15:10):
and don't perpetuate the scheme on the public. So that's
how you get all these you know, cards in the
mail that say like, hey, we're part of a class
action suit against Avon or whatever. And then you say
you you were an Avon customer, probably a year ago.
Do you fill this thing out and you're going to
get a part of an award, which really means they're
going to get hundreds of thousands of people are going
(15:31):
to be splitting a million dollar reward and you're going
to get a coupon for Avon Cologne in the shape
of a motor coach for your troubles something like that.
They're never worth it. Now, this case is different because
one guy. It's not a class action suit. Some guy
(15:54):
named Ronald Denton calls himself Ronald Blue Denton from hills
Borough County, Florida. Only in Florida. He filed a lawsuit
as an individual in court and said I want compensation.
I don't know what his damages are. He's saying, sixty
million Americans were hyped to see Iron Mike Tyson the
baddest man on the planet versus YouTube returned Drigon Prize
(16:16):
fighter Jake Paul. What they saw was the baddest streaming
on the planet. So, you know, massive streaming issues he's complaining.
Florida lawsuit complains that there were one hundred thousand people
complaining online. Okay, but I just don't understand why he
didn't file it as a class action suit. I think
(16:38):
he's trying to get a big award for himself. Like
I you know, maybe an amount could be determined at trial.
I want a million dollars. I don't know if that's
going to work. And also if you're filing an individual
because I could go file a claim, I mean I
know how to do it, and you can get a
form complaint too. You can get this form and you
can just fill it out in cran People in prison
do it all the time, filing lawsuits all over the place.
(17:00):
You can do this, but sooner or later you're gonna
be if they don't feel like settling right away, you're
gonna be wiped out legally because they have enough money
to pay these lawyers and you probably don't. So you're
trying to, you know, get this scheme going and just
hopefully you can just kind of go to court represent yourself.
(17:22):
Nothing wrong with that, but you're gonna get wiped out
pretty soon. They're going to file on so many motions
and delays and stuff like that. You're gonna lose. If
you file a class action suit and you do it properly,
then you leave it to the lawyers. You could be
the named plaintiff. Maybe you'll get some money, but it's
no way to go through life. Sam So anyone thinking
(17:43):
about doing this, It's better to just concentrate on whatever
you're good at and go back to work.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah, let's take it to break.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Fatherly advice, all right, and taking a break. I'm coming
back more. Joe Scalante Live from Hollywood. Joe Le's Goalante
Live from Hollywood. If by Hollywood you mean Burbank. Uh,
two hours of the business end of show Business every
Sunday from five to seven today. Uh, we're broadcasting from
(18:17):
Seal Beach and we're making it work. But I got
so I'm all on battery power. All back up, sam. Uh,
let's go to the movies. Let's let's check the box
office out. Yeah, who's the winner. Who's the winner for
the big weekend box office competition number one? We all
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know who it is.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Right Yeah, No, I know why. My my parking lot
is full right now?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Oh yeah, all day long. I'll bet yesterday too.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Oh yeah, it's been a week. It's been crazy because of.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Wicked pulled, pulled in one hundred and fourteen million this
weekend at the box office. Uh. People, people were, you know,
buying advanced tickets. A lot of advanced screenings sold out and
everybody I went yesterday at three forty five in the afternoon,
I got a nice seat over there at the Bellata
and Huntington Beach, and half the ladies in there were
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wearing like wicked jackets that they got, you know, the
Broadway experience that they had where on Broadway. I guess anyway,
three hours big deal to get that much money in
three hours, because it's hard to screen that many screenings
in one day because it's too long. It's all only
a wicked part one as well. Number two is Gladiator two?
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Do you like Gladiator movies?
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Sam? Only after watching Airplane?
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Okay, I know, after Airplane, I was like, I got
to check out these Gladiator movies. They sound tantalized exactly.
Red one is a Christmas movie? Is number three. Bond
Hoffer Pastor Spy a Sass from Angels Studios. Number four.
These Christian movies are just killing it. Venom the last Dance.
(20:06):
I don't know, you know, Superhero Movie number five probably
not kinda not a big success. The best Christmas pageant ever,
Number six, heretic, number seven, Wild Robot, the best movie
I've seen all year? Number eight, Smile to number nine,
and a Real Pain Number ten, and Conclave, which a
lot of people say is pretty good. I haven't seen
it number eleven, so we get I saw it yesterday, Sam,
(20:32):
did you see it?
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Not yet, we're saving it for Tuesday. I did see
the Venom movie, though, and how's that entertaining? It wasn't bad.
I know it gets knocked on by a lot of
people who were expecting more from Venom as far as
the series goes and cool, but it was still a
fun send off and I enjoyed it with the kids.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Okay, yeah, you got kids, that's a whole different world.
But have you seen Wild Robot.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
No been wanting to see Wild roboty.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Your kids to see that or see it on the streaming. Yeah,
I'd say I'd say best movie of the year and Wicked.
That brings me to a The chatter about Wicked is
that Ariana Grande is gonna win a Oscar. Now they're
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saying best supporting actress. But to me, I'm watching this
movie and I'm saying, I'm saying she's the best actress.
I don't. I don't, I don't. It's not really a
supporting role to me. I don't know. They they so
they got to figure that out. And sometimes they figure
it out by saying, who else is being nominated? I
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want to be in this if they have a choice,
because you know what is supporting and what is the
lead actress. It's not always obvious. So will she deserve it?
It's not really what the show's about. But I can
give you my opinion since I did see it. She
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definitely deserves a nomination. And I'll tell you why. What
she brought to that movie was that everybody who saw
in the theater on Broadway live theater, you're getting this
one kind of experience, but you're never getting the nuances
of the actress's face right. You're too far away. There's
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no close ups, so you miss that. And she she
brought that element. And I don't think I've ever seen
a performance where I'm just so like riveted by her
reactions like and her facial expressions. And she's acting without speaking,
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and you see here off to the side when the
action is maybe over in one part of the screen
and she's reacting to it in another part of the screen.
She is a pro. I've never seen anybody this good,
So I would give it. I would give her an
oscar just for her nonverbal skills, and of course she's beautiful.
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She's looks unhealthy. You know, she needs a sandwich. But
that's what they do these days, and it's kind of
part of the plot. I guess. The part of the
plot is people are beautiful inside and you have to realize.
I think that's their message. And what do I know?
You know, I'm not this wicked lady or something like that.
I saw it once in the theater only because my
next door neighbor was in the chorus.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
So did you like it in the theater?
Speaker 1 (23:39):
I mean, it's it's really it's a cinematic achieve It's
one of those things where this is a cinematic achievement.
This is a milestone again adapting a play to a movie.
Would I go see it again?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
No?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Three hours. I gotta tell you, I saw more people
walk out in the middle of the movie than I
did when I saw The Room at its Hollywood debut.
I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I did not see
The Room at Hollywood. But three I'm in the fifth row.
I got it. There's a and don't it's a really
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good seat at the at the Cinema XD Cinema and
the fifth row. It's an elevated thing. It's great. There's
only four rows in front of me. I watched three
separate parties leave. One of them stood up and said
this makes no sense and they walked out, and the
other two next to me, we're just like two ladies.
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They say I'm done, They're out, and then then another
group left. I don't know what was going on behind me.
I have to assume more people left because it's just like,
who has time for this? But what a cinematic achievement.
And the last ten minutes are insane. I'm gonna give
you that. Okay, Now there's a lot, there's a lot
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of It's a little bit it's confusing because they've show
you the really attractive people, which are the you know,
the lead boy and girl, and then you have the
witch who's you know, unfortunately she's green and she doesn't
dress well, and so you're you're, you know, you're you're
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kind of like, hey, look at this, and then a
lot of weird looking people in the chorus, so you
really want to look at at Ariana Grande and she's
really good, so you're kind of you're drawn to that.
You're kind of, ah, the opposite whatever the opposite of
drawn is to some other things going on in the screen.
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It's a confusing. I wouldn't say repulsed, because it's not
like that. It's just kind of like our eyes are
trained for certain things. Yeah, they are trying. They are
trained to seek out beauty on the screen in the cinema,
and then there's beauty, and then there's not and then
you're And it might have given me a headache, but
I get the I get the message. Beauty's on the inside.
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I guess I'm too shallow to really absorb it. But
I'm also you know, when people start singing, I'm a guy,
and I'm like, why are they singing? But they're good.
Everything's the song's good, the music's good, the visuals or
or next level. So you got to go see it,
I think, Okay, but you gotta be you gotta be
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ready for three hours. And I was ready.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Okay. See that's the thing. You went through three hours
of of people just trying to get outraged with that
that what was it? The Moon movie from last year?
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
But now it's uh. And I learned a very valuable
lesson from that is that you shouldn't have to pay
money to be outraged for three hours. You can just
sit at home and do that for free.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
What movie was? What was the Moon movie from last year?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
The movie about the Native Americans back in nineteen the
early nineteen hundreds and their land being.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Oh yeah under the flower Moon are yeah yeah that way, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Where it's understandable people getting outraged by it. But do
you really want to spend money to sit there for
three hours to get outraged when we can just sit
at home and do that for free.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
That was eat your peas type stuff. Yeah, and this
movie was was pleasant and wonderful most of the time.
Maybe a little long, but whatever. You know, am I
going to see part two? Absolutely? I'm going to go
see part two? So you got to see it.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
You're going to watch another three hours of it?
Speaker 1 (27:38):
I will? I will, So I guess you know I'm
complaining a little bit.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Okay, So it sounds like it was okay, well, okay
enough to make it through?
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yeah? Oh absolutely, no, you be ready for three hours.
I mean there's really good stuff in it. There's funny things,
you know, go Blum, Jeff Goblums, he's really good in it. Okay,
cool and and Ariana grind is amazing in it. The
other one, you know, it did a great job in
her role, the Green Lady. She had a great job.
But you know, it's that's a hard one. She's all
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everything stacked against her on that to be to be like,
you know, entertaining or mesmerizing. But and uh are you
are Youana Grandee Grande is just a big star, and
so it's it's it's great to see a big star,
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you know, so young and early in their career, and
how awesome she's going to develop as an actress. She
doesn't need to be running around, you know, playing concerts.
She can have a great career as a movie star
if she wants to. And she's going to be bankable,
and so good for her. A break, all right, Okay,
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I just want did you see any movie this week?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I saw Venom? That was the one I caught.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Oh yeah, you saw Venom? Ok good enough. Other than that,
I saw King of Comedy. I'll just say one thing
about King of Comedy. It's one of the greatest movies
ever made with Robert de Niro and as Rupert Pumpkin
and Jerry Lewis, Sandra Bernhard. That's amazing all these three people.
The interesting thing is now, if you watch interviews with
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Robert de Niro after the election, he was so wrapped
up in it. You know he's become Rupert Pupkin when
he's explaining what's gonna happen to this country if Donald
Trump is elected? It's Rupert Pupkin. Now, if you don't
know who Rupert Pupkin is, watch The King of Comedy.
And it's my recommendation if you haven't seen it. Nineteen
(29:47):
eighty two movie Scorsese. One of the greatest movies ever made.
All right, let's take a break, come back, Jo was
going to Live from Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah, h.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
H Joe Aska Hante. Here's my lawyer. You don't want money.
He does it all for you. And he knows he's
told you.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Oh yes, he knows.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
It was Galante Live from Hollywood. By Hollywood you mean Burbank. Hey, Sam,
So you're telling me you never saw The King of Comedy,
starring Jerry Lewis, Robert De Niro, and Sander Bernhard, directed
by Martin Scorsese.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
That's correct. I have yet to see that one.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Okay, well, can I encourage you to watch it? I
watched it on the Criteria on channel I don't know
where else. You can watch it for free, but the
Criterion is expensive.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
See the thing is Criterion. It doesn't show up there's
an option on my Samsung TV, so I haven't been
able to download that. However, I could probably get that
on my No.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
No, no, you guys, search you search apps. I did.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I can't find the Criterion app. It's it's heartbreaking.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
There I have it, I have it online.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Oh well, I have to do it. But I searched this.
Look again, I will look again.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Again. Uh, but I will tell you that all the
when they roll out a new Samsung TV, I think
they have it's the best TV ever made. But when
they roll them out, they have different softwares in that
are that are governing the interface. So you can have
like I have one upstairs in my house that has
one interface and one downstairs it's that has a different one,
(31:51):
and I'm just waiting for the whichever is the older
one to catch up. So it's a little bit weird, okay,
but they really are working hard to make TV amazing.
But we still go to the movie theaters, so I'm
still always a big thing about this show is to
encourage people go to the movie theaters. I had a
great time watching Wicked, even though you know, maybe it's
(32:13):
not for me, but you gotta be ready, and it
was awesome. I had a pizza, had a reclining seat. Okay,
The King of Comedy in nineteen eighty two, you got
to you gotta watch this. Robert de Niro plays a
stand up comic who's an autograph hound. Him and Sandra
Bernhard are just part of this autograph hound culture and
(32:35):
they just are obsessed with its. Johnny Carson type character
played by Jerry Lewis and Robert DeNiro lives in his
basement and he practices comedy all day long. He's never
performed anywhere. He just like has a like a little
setup down in his basement to make it pretend like
(32:57):
he's in a nightclub. And then but Rupert Pupkin is
his name. And and it's funny because definitely if you watch,
if you watch the rox, Robert de Niro on the
Bill Maher Show and he's talking about I think it
was Bill Maher, what's gonna happen to us after trugs elected?
He's elected? He said, you won't be on the air
(33:19):
that come after me. You won't believe what happens with
these kind of dictators. And you know what it's I'm
not saying he's of course he's allowed to have this opinion,
but he's gone so far off the deep end. He
sounds like Ruper Pupkin delusional in a way. And people
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on both sides they get that wrapped up in politics,
they get delusional, they start you know, suffering from from
you know, like oh, this is gonna happen, that's gonna
and and and kind of delusions that Rupert Pupkin had.
So definitely Ruper Pupkin. Uh, speaking of these political types,
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have you heard about this, Sam So MSNBC. I mean,
this is a big TV story, is that MSNBC n
CNN's ratings took a dive right after the election. Now
a lot of people are saying, oh, this is because
they lied or they were on the wrong side. That's
not really the case. The case is MSNBC and CNN
(34:26):
they do broadcast towards the lefty people, and then if
the lefties lose, they don't want to be reminded about
the laws, So why would they watch TV? So they
drop out for a while. So I don't think there
should be a big panic box is ratings and their
their revenue doing fine because their guy won. So now
(34:47):
you go there and you go and you celebrate. But
to me, I like to watch whoever's losing. On an
election night, I was watching whoever was losing. Like to
watch the meltdowns. But MSNBC, I think they're overreacting, or
(35:08):
maybe it's just an excuse to dump it and unload it,
because they're saying they're going to put it, They're going
to put that together. It's owned by NB a conglomeration,
a Comcast, uh, and they're they're they're going to put
it up for sale and along with some other channels,
and they might buy it.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Sam who might buy it? Elon Musk Oh, Wow, that's
not shocking. He has all the money in the universe.
He could literally buy every media conglomerate.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
The The question was posed to him and he said,
how much does it cost? Uh, I mean it can't
be much, look at the ratings, but this would be
the time to buy MSNBC because the ratings are down,
but they're going to go back up because this is
(36:05):
the lowest they're ever going to get. And then you
come in there and you fire some people and you
change the sets around a little bit, and you and
then it goes up in value and you sell it.
I mean I would do, but they pay too much
money to those hosts, like Rachel Maddow gets something like
thirty million dollars a year. She only has to work
(36:28):
one day a week. That's a mistake, but they do
that because those are big names and they can go
and they can go to CNN, ABC. You know, someone
could steal Rachel Maddow and over at Fox they get
they get like a fifth of that the big stars,
because where are they going to go. They can't go
(36:51):
to MSNBC, they can't go to CBS, a BS. So
everybody those other networks are competing for these big stars
and up their price. But if their revenue from the
low ratings and justifying it, you got to get rid
of these people and you got to start over with
people that eat off of YouTube. And it seems like
that's where the energy is anyway, these people on YouTube.
(37:12):
So if I was it m B NBC, I just
go get the best guys from YouTube and and put
them and put them on there. The Rachel Maddows that
are that are overpriced. Oh that's my advice, one ever
calls me.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
No, that's not a bad idea, considering the fact that
most of the younger viewers tend to swing towards watching
YouTube over broadcast news on television. I haven't sat and
watched any I haven't watched CNN or Fox News or
MS MSNBC on on actual television and maybe a decade
(37:47):
because I get almost all of my news just in small,
digestible bites on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
A couple hours after it airs. It's all right there
on YouTube. Yeah, and YouTube is everything right now, that's
where that's where people are going. And so what you
do is you get a YouTube star and you give
him a big platform and they're going to be happy,
and you pay him a decent salary and maybe let
them keep some of their YouTube revenue and you kind
of share that. And I think that's a way to
(38:16):
solve that problem. And and Fox's problem is they're advertising.
It's this old people cafeters, gold, reverse mortgages. It's a
pity the advertising that's on Fox News. It's gross. I mean,
it's just depressing. But they're making enough. In my Pellow guy,
you know that stuff. They don't even pay my pellow guy,
(38:38):
I mean, he doesn't even pay to have these commercials.
He gets he shares a revenue of my pillow with Fox.
That's why they have these little codes that explains that
there's no dignity in that. No digney, no dignity. I'm
still awaiting his cabinet position. But we'll see how that goes.
Secretary of Comfort.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
I don't know that would be lovely. Let's take her heart, right,
I think I think we're done, yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
With the segment and this segment of segments, and then we'll, uh, well,
let's leave everybody with just a taste of the greatest
song ever written, and we'll see everybody later. M hm
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