February 20, 2025 • 20 mins
When you're a Minnesotan and you feel a sudden explosion.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're familiar with Brainerd, Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I yeah, you've lived up in Eely, Minnesota. I think
Brainerd isn't that around the Luth area.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
I know it's in Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
I've been told it's about two hours away from Minneapolis.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
Two hours.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
It is two hours. I'm hearing from Duluth as well.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
So yeah, because of living in Eely, Brainerd is not
far and you're not far from the boundary waters up
in that neck of the woods.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Now let me ask you this.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Are you familiar with the big mystery out of brainer
that's been going on since nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
We're talking about the whole Bigfoot thing.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
No, no, no, no, no no, no, no no no.
This has nothing to do This has nothing to do
with Bigfoot, nothing to do with Bigfoot at all.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
The big mystery like Bigfoot.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I understand you could say is a mystery, but this
is this is real like Bigfoot with some of us
believe that it's real. But this has been like the
Mayo Clinic is trying to figure it out. The CDC
in Atlanta has tried to figure it out. A lot
of people have tried to figure it out. This mystery
from nineteen eighty.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Four, I actually have no clue. I know there's lots
of weird mysteries up in that neighborhood. There's a fall
along the sixty six, and they have no idea where
the water it goes into this well, and they have
(01:34):
no idea where the water goes. They put dye in it.
Have no clue.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
So how about that man? Brainerd is full of stuff?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Now this mystery will be better than any other mystery
that you could think of.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Thank you, sir, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Looking at the map, I see Reamer, which was where
we were going to go for Bigfoot. Big Foot? Well
that's another hour plus north of brainer.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yes, because remember I said if we got up at
five we would be there.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
It's like three and a half hours away from our hotel.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Line six, Hi, Elliet in the morning.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Good morning, Hi?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Who's this Jessica? Yes? Are you familiar with Brainerd, Minnesota?
I was born and raised in Brainerd, Minnesota? Shut up?
Were you really for real? What year were you born?
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Who family still lived there?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I was born in nineteen eighty two, so you were
two years old?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Did your family get wrapped up in the big Brainerd mystery?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I have no idea what you're talking about. Seriously, you're
from there.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
What's the population.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Populations?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Like?
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Forty thousand?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
No, it's not Brainerd is not forty thousand people? Is
it Brainerd?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Excuse me?
Speaker 5 (02:47):
And with her sister cities?
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Okay, so between Brainerd and Bester, it's about forty thousand.
I thought I thought Brainerd was like fifteen. But that's okay, Okay,
it's not.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
It's not that.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Little okay, whatever? What ever?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Is anybody in your family familiar with the with the
big mystery?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Though?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I have no idea what's the big mystery the Brainer diarrhea?
Speaker 5 (03:16):
My mom has a lot of GI issues.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Wait are you serious? Do you think that she was
one that got afflicted by the Brainer diarrhea?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I'll have to ask her. Oh please do so? True story?
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Is this some weird diarrhea cluster? The yess so?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
True story? True story? Hold on one second?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
How many times do I have to say it before
Diane sings, God damn it? So anyway, it's nineteen eighty four, Hey, Kristen,
see if we can get her mom on the phone.
Nineteen eighty four, one hundred and twenty two people fall ill.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
With horrific diarrhea.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
When I say horrific, they said people, A couple of
people were hospitalized. How many times a day would you
have to have diarrhea? And think like, wow, that's a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Some flute people get like hospitalized because they're dehydraed.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
How times? How many bouts a day? Eight to ten?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
These people were having close to fifteen to twenty bouts
a day.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
God.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
They talked to people who couldn't hunt because no, because
they were defecating their hunting suits. So one hundred and
twenty two people got sick, and so they called in
to try to find out what was They called in
experts to try to find out why is everybody? Why
is everybody got brain or diarrhea? Nineteen eighty four, it
(04:42):
was still going on. A year later, same people, yes,
or more cases both the same people still had diarrhea.
A year later they said, on average people lost twenty pounds.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Well, so it's not all they weren't retaining any food.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
So for for a year a year, these people are
are letting loose with the big brown juice. One guy
from the Mayo clinic. So they tried to figure out
where it was coming from. There were these people that
owned a dairy farm, and people had been having people
had been having raw milk from there. Now, hold on,
(05:22):
hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on hold.
Oh watch watch bricele come sliding into home. When you're
sliding in the home, no, when you're siying, you feel
a squishy turn diarrhea.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Anyway, you know, Diane has shown off before the whole.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
She knows the song. So anyway, anyway, where was I? Oh?
So anyway, they bring in this guy.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
And he's like, they start interviewing all well, no, no,
they bring in an expert. The expert and they start
interviewing all one hundred and twenty two of them in
pieces like sometimes they have to go bathroom like oh wait,
oh wait, brp. And so they found out not all
of them, but a lot of them had had the
raw milk from this one dairy. But the dairy said, listen,
(06:12):
They went and they tested all their cattle. None of
them were sick, none of them had any germs that
were showing up that would cause an illness. They've been
selling raw milk for thirty years, but because they didn't
want to be they wanted to be helpful to the community,
they stopped sales of raw milk.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Yeah, I'm sure there was a panic over their product.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
The lead investigators said, if anybody, oh, so one other
thing they were doing, so the CDC.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
So the male Clinic is in is in Minneapolis.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Right, so they were sending they were bringing they were
bringing truckloads of diarrhea to the to.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
The Mayo Clinic.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
And the Mayo Clinic was like, we can't solve this,
like we don't know what was the cause of this.
Like you could go, it's the raw milk, but why
nobody had it before? Other people were drinking that raw milk.
Nobody had Nobody had it, so they couldn't put their
finger on it as to what exactly was causing it.
So they were like, let's get the CDC involved. CDC
(07:16):
is in Atlanta. Every day they were sending there. There's
there's like a seafood distributor there, so they would go
in there, they would dry ice containers of diarrhea and
they'd mail it by the pallet to the CDC in Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Were the restaurants that were getting some of their food
supply from this fish house morys were they amped to
find this cause?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Well, I don't think anybody was going like, oh, no,
is it Chilean sea bass or is it diarrhea that's
not cod the no, no, no, if anything, it'd almost
be like tartar.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
They so, they're they're they're mailing palettes of this diarrhea
to Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
And this is still the early eighties, mid.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Eighties, nineteen eighty four, nineteen eighty four and eighty five
and eighty six. The guy who was the head of
infectious diseases at the Mayo Clinic said, hey, listen, if
anybody can solve this. They were inviting people in from
all around the country to try to solve the Brainer
diarrhea mystery. The guy who was in charge said, if anybody, professional, individual,
(08:34):
lucky guests can solve the Brainer diarrhea mystery, I will
buy you dinner for two anywhere in the world.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Maurice.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
All I want to do is know what's causing the
brainerd diarrhea mystery that was in nineteen eighty four. Do
you know what is still unsolved? Still the Brainer diarrhea mystery.
Did anyone die?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I don't think so. I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Now they had never seen a case like this where
where like one hundred and twenty two people had diarrhea
for over a year. For some people it was years.
Some did get better. The outbreak was dubbed the Brainer diarrhea.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
It's certainly a eight.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Eighteen ended up hospitalized, but they all managed to get out.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
I see here. Nobody died from the outbreak.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
And they were like, listen, they've been people have been
drinking raw milk for thirty years, right, Why now?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Like I said, they tested every cow.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
It seems like with all that that farm went through,
it wasn't the milk.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
A year later, this one guy, what they talked to,
one guy who was having between eighteen and twenty bouts
of diarrhea day. A year later, he was still squeezing
out ten bouts a day.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Is there anything? Has there been anything?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
He finally recovered after two years.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
It's a long time. We're still waiting for you. Has
there been any comparable outbreaks in the Midwest?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I believe so you understand how like lime disease, right,
lime disease is named lime disease because of where it started,
right is it? E? Coli is named after where it started?
So there have been other Brainer diarrhea outbreaks, but it's
named Brainer diarrhea because of where it started.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
What what is E Coli named after? Uh, it's like
a name of a bacteria.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Wait, I thought, hold on, I have to look because
maybe I have the wrong place. Maybe it's not Maybe
it's not E Coli.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Because Lime is Connecticut.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Right, hold on, I'm looking.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
In nineteen ninety two, a Brainer diarrhea outbreak second passengers
on a cruise ship. In nineteen ninety six, a Brainer
diarrhea outbreak was connected to a restaurant in Texas one
hundred and fourteen people, many of whom had diarrhea for
more than a year. In two thousand and six, dozens
(11:36):
were dozens got Brainer diarrhea in connection to a California restaurant.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Couldn't find a link to any specific food or drink.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Michael is curious what year, Elliott you migrated to the US.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Oh, I'm sorry, it's not Eco I Ebola Bola.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Oh that's okay, yeah, Lime, Connecticut, Ebola River in Congo.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Right did you want to answer when you migrated? It
wasn't in eighty four of us. And Brion said, but
we how have two things? Elliott has found his people.
Number one, how have we never heard of the brainer
diarrhea mystery.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
It's been going on since nineteen eighty four, so many
years later, this should fit my algorithm beautifully.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Four decades later, do they embrace it? Like can you
get shirts and hats and oh?
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Like if I went to the local store, it would
be like I survived the Brainerd outbreak of eighty four.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Or is it just a shirt with like like brown spots.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
In town or is it a history? They really don't
want it. I don't about unless we're trying to solve
the mystery. I feel like at this point, when was
the last like when did the last people the last
larger way if people get over.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
It in Brainerd?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Yeah, oh he was like two and a half three
years later, so still in the eighties, eighty seven, eighty eight?
Time heals right, my butthole didn't That thing is still wrong.
You realize if you were going if you had twenty
diarrheas a day for a year, how many diarrheas?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Is that well?
Speaker 4 (13:22):
And like you said, they're fortunate no one died. Yeah,
now is this is this shirt now? Diarrhea survivor mark safe?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
But how do you grow up there?
Speaker 3 (13:38):
How did that girl grow up there and have no
idea about the brainer diarrhea.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
I'd questioned the schooling.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
And again, I've never heard of the one out of Minnesota,
But how have I also never heard of any of
the other cases where it's like, oh, we had a
BRAINERD diarrhea break.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Or maybe you've just kind of red past it thinking
it was named after the scientist and never.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
Thought twice a yeah, that could be, that could be.
How great is this mystery still unsolved? It's all I
care about. Let's see a visit brainer dot com has
anything for me. They say it's Minnesota's playground. You can't
hunt though a hunting is one of their tabs.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Well, I remember I told you this guy couldn't go
hunting because to suit, he was afraid he would crap
his h hunting suit.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
They said truck drivers honestly had to take leave.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
I get that. It can't be behind that long haul.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Uh huh no. Uh.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Next thing, you know, there's somebody who said snowmobiling is
massive there because they have over a thousand miles of
trails that all start right around Brainer.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Just follow the just follow this the path back Elliott breadcrumbs.
Oh no, those are solid.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Annual events they have here.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
No nothing is do they do anything in July to
celebrate the anniversary of the of the DIARYA.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
We saw they had the big parade.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Well that's for the fourth They're parade to the hospital.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Oh there's a racetrack there.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I also, I also don't want to be the person
in Atlanta at the CDC who has to accept that
palette of diarrhea every day.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
He'll sign it. You should be happy to finally get
a palette.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Are you serious?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
What?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
There's no way, mayor, yes, asking you shall receive? Are
you literally the mayor to Brainerd, Minnesota?
Speaker 5 (15:54):
I am the mayor of Brainerd, Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Diarrhea and all, wait a minute, how.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Am I talking to you?
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Well, I just got woken up by my cousin who said,
this is my favorite radio station out at DC. You
need to pick up the phone and call them and
lo and behold, the first thing I hear is diarrhea.
That's literally the first word I hear come out of
your guy's mouth through the phone.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Well, at least you knew.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
At least you knew what we were talking about. The hey,
honest question, honest question. Yeah, how long can I when
were you? Are you from there?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Like? Were you born and raised there?
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Born and raised?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yes? What year were you born?
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Mayor so I was born in nineteen eighty two, so you.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Were born right before the brainer diarrhea? I'll break?
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Do you know?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
All?
Speaker 5 (16:48):
For all I know, I may have been patient zero.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Does the town of Brainerd embrace the mystery?
Speaker 5 (16:58):
You know? I don't know if necessarily embrace it, but
it is definitely something that we find humorous. It's super
funny that this is a city that fought fluoride forever
and maybe that had something to do with it.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Who knows why? And also why have and I know
you all know the answer to this.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
How have I never heard of this outbreak from nineteen
eighty four?
Speaker 5 (17:25):
No, I don't know, because it's such a weird thing that,
especially around here, we're all aware of it, and I
don't know. It's not like something where people are just like, man,
do you remember the snowstorm of nineteen eighty two or
the source sworm in nineteen excuse me, nineteen ninety two.
Everyone remembers that Halloween nineteen ninety two huge snowstorm. It's
not like everybody remembers this gigantic outbreak of it. But
(17:48):
it's definitely in the lexicon, and it's definitely a part
of history around here because you know, look it up
on Wikipedia. It's what we're known for.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
But it talks about and I've never heard of that.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
And then I guess as a feather in your cap,
there have been other outbreaks, other Brainer diarrhea outbreaks, just
because that's the name of it attached to, whether it's
Texas or California, wherever it is. If so many people
end up getting sick with diarrhea, it is referred to
as a brainer diarrhea outbreak.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Yeah, it's quite interesting. Usually they like to name things
after doctors, but I guess if it's diarrhea, the doctor
didn't want to take responsibility for this one.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Hey, dude, do you know anybody that was part of
that group of like one hundred and twenty two or
one hundred and twenty five whatever it was.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
You know, I've never had anyone actually tell me specifically
that they were. But you know, in all reality, who
really wants to say that?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
So I would I done it, I'd be like I
would be petitioning you to have a ceremony for me.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Every year. Remember remember this, never forget, never forget. I will.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
I will say that's a very male thing to do.
I got a sick one time. It was the worst
thing that ever happened.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Hey, what is the is that dairy farm? Are they still?
Are they still there in Brainerd.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
That I'm not aware of? I don't think so, but
I'm not aware of.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
You know who the last person I expected to talk
to today.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
I would assume, so, Hey, what is I didn't even ask?
What's your name? So my name is Dave Bideaux, Dave
Bidell Bideaud.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Yeah, it sounds very Louisiana.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
And oh, very good.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Well, I would like to send you an Elliott the
Morning shirt.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Hey sounds great, Well, glad, I'll proudly wear it.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Excellent, excellent?
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Does he have shirts for his podcast?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Mayor? But that do you have shirts for your podcast?
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Yeah? We could send you one. Absolutely. I know bu
open op podcast.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
You're the best? All right, Mayor?
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Hold tight one second, hold on one second for me, seriously,
You're familiar with Brainerd, Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I yeah, you've lived up in Eely, Minnesota. I think
Brainerd isn't that around the Luth area.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
I know it's in Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
I've been told it's about two hours away from Minneapolis.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
Two hours.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
It is two hours. I'm hearing from Duluth as well.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
So yeah, because of living in Eely, Brainerd is not
far and you're not far from the boundary waters up
in that neck of the woods.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Now let me ask you this.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Are you familiar with the big mystery out of brainer
that's been going on since nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
We're talking about the whole Bigfoot thing.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
No, no, no, no, no no, no, no no no.
This has nothing to do This has nothing to do
with Bigfoot, nothing to do with Bigfoot at all.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
The big mystery like Bigfoot.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I understand you could say is a mystery, but this
is this is real like Bigfoot with some of us
believe that it's real. But this has been like the
Mayo Clinic is trying to figure it out. The CDC
in Atlanta has tried to figure it out. A lot
of people have tried to figure it out. This mystery
from nineteen eighty.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Four, I actually have no clue. I know there's lots
of weird mysteries up in that neighborhood. There's a fall
along the sixty six, and they have no idea where
the water it goes into this well, and they have
(01:34):
no idea where the water goes. They put dye in it.
Have no clue.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
So how about that man? Brainerd is full of stuff?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Now this mystery will be better than any other mystery
that you could think of.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Thank you, sir, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Looking at the map, I see Reamer, which was where
we were going to go for Bigfoot. Big Foot? Well
that's another hour plus north of brainer.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yes, because remember I said if we got up at
five we would be there.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
It's like three and a half hours away from our hotel.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Line six, Hi, Elliet in the morning.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Good morning, Hi?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Who's this Jessica? Yes? Are you familiar with Brainerd, Minnesota?
I was born and raised in Brainerd, Minnesota? Shut up?
Were you really for real? What year were you born?
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Who family still lived there?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I was born in nineteen eighty two, so you were
two years old?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Did your family get wrapped up in the big Brainerd mystery?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I have no idea what you're talking about. Seriously, you're
from there.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
What's the population.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Populations?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Like?
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Forty thousand?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
No, it's not Brainerd is not forty thousand people? Is
it Brainerd?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Excuse me?
Speaker 5 (02:47):
And with her sister cities?
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Okay, so between Brainerd and Bester, it's about forty thousand.
I thought I thought Brainerd was like fifteen. But that's okay, Okay,
it's not.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
It's not that.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Little okay, whatever? What ever?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Is anybody in your family familiar with the with the
big mystery?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Though?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I have no idea what's the big mystery the Brainer diarrhea?
Speaker 5 (03:16):
My mom has a lot of GI issues.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Wait are you serious? Do you think that she was
one that got afflicted by the Brainer diarrhea?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I'll have to ask her. Oh please do so? True story?
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Is this some weird diarrhea cluster? The yess so?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
True story? True story? Hold on one second?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
How many times do I have to say it before
Diane sings, God damn it? So anyway, it's nineteen eighty four, Hey, Kristen,
see if we can get her mom on the phone.
Nineteen eighty four, one hundred and twenty two people fall ill.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
With horrific diarrhea.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
When I say horrific, they said people, A couple of
people were hospitalized. How many times a day would you
have to have diarrhea? And think like, wow, that's a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Some flute people get like hospitalized because they're dehydraed.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
How times? How many bouts a day? Eight to ten?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
These people were having close to fifteen to twenty bouts
a day.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
God.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
They talked to people who couldn't hunt because no, because
they were defecating their hunting suits. So one hundred and
twenty two people got sick, and so they called in
to try to find out what was They called in
experts to try to find out why is everybody? Why
is everybody got brain or diarrhea? Nineteen eighty four, it
(04:42):
was still going on. A year later, same people, yes,
or more cases both the same people still had diarrhea.
A year later they said, on average people lost twenty pounds.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Well, so it's not all they weren't retaining any food.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
So for for a year a year, these people are
are letting loose with the big brown juice. One guy
from the Mayo clinic. So they tried to figure out
where it was coming from. There were these people that
owned a dairy farm, and people had been having people
had been having raw milk from there. Now, hold on,
(05:22):
hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on hold.
Oh watch watch bricele come sliding into home. When you're
sliding in the home, no, when you're siying, you feel
a squishy turn diarrhea.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Anyway, you know, Diane has shown off before the whole.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
She knows the song. So anyway, anyway, where was I? Oh?
So anyway, they bring in this guy.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
And he's like, they start interviewing all well, no, no,
they bring in an expert. The expert and they start
interviewing all one hundred and twenty two of them in
pieces like sometimes they have to go bathroom like oh wait,
oh wait, brp. And so they found out not all
of them, but a lot of them had had the
raw milk from this one dairy. But the dairy said, listen,
(06:12):
They went and they tested all their cattle. None of
them were sick, none of them had any germs that
were showing up that would cause an illness. They've been
selling raw milk for thirty years, but because they didn't
want to be they wanted to be helpful to the community,
they stopped sales of raw milk.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Yeah, I'm sure there was a panic over their product.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
The lead investigators said, if anybody, oh, so one other
thing they were doing, so the CDC.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
So the male Clinic is in is in Minneapolis.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Right, so they were sending they were bringing they were
bringing truckloads of diarrhea to the to.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
The Mayo Clinic.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
And the Mayo Clinic was like, we can't solve this,
like we don't know what was the cause of this.
Like you could go, it's the raw milk, but why
nobody had it before? Other people were drinking that raw milk.
Nobody had Nobody had it, so they couldn't put their
finger on it as to what exactly was causing it.
So they were like, let's get the CDC involved. CDC
(07:16):
is in Atlanta. Every day they were sending there. There's
there's like a seafood distributor there, so they would go
in there, they would dry ice containers of diarrhea and
they'd mail it by the pallet to the CDC in Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Were the restaurants that were getting some of their food
supply from this fish house morys were they amped to
find this cause?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Well, I don't think anybody was going like, oh, no,
is it Chilean sea bass or is it diarrhea that's
not cod the no, no, no, if anything, it'd almost
be like tartar.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
They so, they're they're they're mailing palettes of this diarrhea
to Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
And this is still the early eighties, mid.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Eighties, nineteen eighty four, nineteen eighty four and eighty five
and eighty six. The guy who was the head of
infectious diseases at the Mayo Clinic said, hey, listen, if
anybody can solve this. They were inviting people in from
all around the country to try to solve the Brainer
diarrhea mystery. The guy who was in charge said, if anybody, professional, individual,
(08:34):
lucky guests can solve the Brainer diarrhea mystery, I will
buy you dinner for two anywhere in the world.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Maurice.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
All I want to do is know what's causing the
brainerd diarrhea mystery that was in nineteen eighty four. Do
you know what is still unsolved? Still the Brainer diarrhea mystery.
Did anyone die?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I don't think so. I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Now they had never seen a case like this where
where like one hundred and twenty two people had diarrhea
for over a year. For some people it was years.
Some did get better. The outbreak was dubbed the Brainer diarrhea.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
It's certainly a eight.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Eighteen ended up hospitalized, but they all managed to get out.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
I see here. Nobody died from the outbreak.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
And they were like, listen, they've been people have been
drinking raw milk for thirty years, right, Why now?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Like I said, they tested every cow.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
It seems like with all that that farm went through,
it wasn't the milk.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
A year later, this one guy, what they talked to,
one guy who was having between eighteen and twenty bouts
of diarrhea day. A year later, he was still squeezing
out ten bouts a day.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Is there anything? Has there been anything?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
He finally recovered after two years.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
It's a long time. We're still waiting for you. Has
there been any comparable outbreaks in the Midwest?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I believe so you understand how like lime disease, right,
lime disease is named lime disease because of where it started,
right is it? E? Coli is named after where it started?
So there have been other Brainer diarrhea outbreaks, but it's
named Brainer diarrhea because of where it started.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
What what is E Coli named after? Uh, it's like
a name of a bacteria.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Wait, I thought, hold on, I have to look because
maybe I have the wrong place. Maybe it's not Maybe
it's not E Coli.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Because Lime is Connecticut.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Right, hold on, I'm looking.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
In nineteen ninety two, a Brainer diarrhea outbreak second passengers
on a cruise ship. In nineteen ninety six, a Brainer
diarrhea outbreak was connected to a restaurant in Texas one
hundred and fourteen people, many of whom had diarrhea for
more than a year. In two thousand and six, dozens
(11:36):
were dozens got Brainer diarrhea in connection to a California restaurant.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Couldn't find a link to any specific food or drink.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Michael is curious what year, Elliott you migrated to the US.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Oh, I'm sorry, it's not Eco I Ebola Bola.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Oh that's okay, yeah, Lime, Connecticut, Ebola River in Congo.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Right did you want to answer when you migrated? It
wasn't in eighty four of us. And Brion said, but
we how have two things? Elliott has found his people.
Number one, how have we never heard of the brainer
diarrhea mystery.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
It's been going on since nineteen eighty four, so many
years later, this should fit my algorithm beautifully.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Four decades later, do they embrace it? Like can you
get shirts and hats and oh?
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Like if I went to the local store, it would
be like I survived the Brainerd outbreak of eighty four.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Or is it just a shirt with like like brown spots.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
In town or is it a history? They really don't
want it. I don't about unless we're trying to solve
the mystery. I feel like at this point, when was
the last like when did the last people the last
larger way if people get over.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
It in Brainerd?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Yeah, oh he was like two and a half three
years later, so still in the eighties, eighty seven, eighty eight?
Time heals right, my butthole didn't That thing is still wrong.
You realize if you were going if you had twenty
diarrheas a day for a year, how many diarrheas?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Is that well?
Speaker 4 (13:22):
And like you said, they're fortunate no one died. Yeah,
now is this is this shirt now? Diarrhea survivor mark safe?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
But how do you grow up there?
Speaker 3 (13:38):
How did that girl grow up there and have no
idea about the brainer diarrhea.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
I'd questioned the schooling.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
And again, I've never heard of the one out of Minnesota,
But how have I also never heard of any of
the other cases where it's like, oh, we had a
BRAINERD diarrhea break.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Or maybe you've just kind of red past it thinking
it was named after the scientist and never.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
Thought twice a yeah, that could be, that could be.
How great is this mystery still unsolved? It's all I
care about. Let's see a visit brainer dot com has
anything for me. They say it's Minnesota's playground. You can't
hunt though a hunting is one of their tabs.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Well, I remember I told you this guy couldn't go
hunting because to suit, he was afraid he would crap
his h hunting suit.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
They said truck drivers honestly had to take leave.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
I get that. It can't be behind that long haul.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Uh huh no. Uh.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Next thing, you know, there's somebody who said snowmobiling is
massive there because they have over a thousand miles of
trails that all start right around Brainer.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Just follow the just follow this the path back Elliott breadcrumbs.
Oh no, those are solid.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Annual events they have here.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
No nothing is do they do anything in July to
celebrate the anniversary of the of the DIARYA.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
We saw they had the big parade.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Well that's for the fourth They're parade to the hospital.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Oh there's a racetrack there.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I also, I also don't want to be the person
in Atlanta at the CDC who has to accept that
palette of diarrhea every day.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
He'll sign it. You should be happy to finally get
a palette.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Are you serious?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
What?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
There's no way, mayor, yes, asking you shall receive? Are
you literally the mayor to Brainerd, Minnesota?
Speaker 5 (15:54):
I am the mayor of Brainerd, Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Diarrhea and all, wait a minute, how.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Am I talking to you?
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Well, I just got woken up by my cousin who said,
this is my favorite radio station out at DC. You
need to pick up the phone and call them and
lo and behold, the first thing I hear is diarrhea.
That's literally the first word I hear come out of
your guy's mouth through the phone.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Well, at least you knew.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
At least you knew what we were talking about. The hey,
honest question, honest question. Yeah, how long can I when
were you? Are you from there?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Like? Were you born and raised there?
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Born and raised?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yes? What year were you born?
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Mayor so I was born in nineteen eighty two, so you.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Were born right before the brainer diarrhea? I'll break?
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Do you know?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
All?
Speaker 5 (16:48):
For all I know, I may have been patient zero.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Does the town of Brainerd embrace the mystery?
Speaker 5 (16:58):
You know? I don't know if necessarily embrace it, but
it is definitely something that we find humorous. It's super
funny that this is a city that fought fluoride forever
and maybe that had something to do with it.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Who knows why? And also why have and I know
you all know the answer to this.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
How have I never heard of this outbreak from nineteen
eighty four?
Speaker 5 (17:25):
No, I don't know, because it's such a weird thing that,
especially around here, we're all aware of it, and I
don't know. It's not like something where people are just like, man,
do you remember the snowstorm of nineteen eighty two or
the source sworm in nineteen excuse me, nineteen ninety two.
Everyone remembers that Halloween nineteen ninety two huge snowstorm. It's
not like everybody remembers this gigantic outbreak of it. But
(17:48):
it's definitely in the lexicon, and it's definitely a part
of history around here because you know, look it up
on Wikipedia. It's what we're known for.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
But it talks about and I've never heard of that.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
And then I guess as a feather in your cap,
there have been other outbreaks, other Brainer diarrhea outbreaks, just
because that's the name of it attached to, whether it's
Texas or California, wherever it is. If so many people
end up getting sick with diarrhea, it is referred to
as a brainer diarrhea outbreak.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Yeah, it's quite interesting. Usually they like to name things
after doctors, but I guess if it's diarrhea, the doctor
didn't want to take responsibility for this one.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Hey, dude, do you know anybody that was part of
that group of like one hundred and twenty two or
one hundred and twenty five whatever it was.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
You know, I've never had anyone actually tell me specifically
that they were. But you know, in all reality, who
really wants to say that?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
So I would I done it, I'd be like I
would be petitioning you to have a ceremony for me.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Every year. Remember remember this, never forget, never forget. I will.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
I will say that's a very male thing to do.
I got a sick one time. It was the worst
thing that ever happened.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Hey, what is the is that dairy farm? Are they still?
Are they still there in Brainerd.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
That I'm not aware of? I don't think so, but
I'm not aware of.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
You know who the last person I expected to talk
to today.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
I would assume, so, Hey, what is I didn't even ask?
What's your name? So my name is Dave Bideaux, Dave
Bidell Bideaud.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Yeah, it sounds very Louisiana.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
And oh, very good.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Well, I would like to send you an Elliott the
Morning shirt.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Hey sounds great, Well, glad, I'll proudly wear it.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Excellent, excellent?
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Does he have shirts for his podcast?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Mayor? But that do you have shirts for your podcast?
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Yeah? We could send you one. Absolutely. I know bu
open op podcast.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
You're the best? All right, Mayor?
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Hold tight one second, hold on one second for me, seriously,
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