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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So I'm reading about this woman, right, and her job
originally was she was a social media manager for like
a bunch of writers, right, like up and coming writers,
not like for Brad Meltzer, but like up and coming writers.
And she, over the course of time became very friendly
(00:21):
with the with the writers.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
So one of her clients ends up getting sick and
is diagnosed with some form of cancer. I don't know
exactly what kind. Anyway, she she gets diagnosed with cancer
and kind of steps away from writing and kind of
steps away from having this business relationship with this social
(00:44):
media manager.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Time goes on, and they would check in with each
other from time to time. It wasn't like it was
like well outside out of mind, but they weren't working together.
She wasn't posting on her behalf or promoting on her
behalf or whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Way.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
The woman, as the cancer increases and she's going through
treatment and all that other stuff, calls her and says, hey,
I need a favor as a friend, not as a
former coworker or anything like that, as a friend.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
So they had become close.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, yeah, they had become very friendly, but much more
so than just colleagues or business partners, but I need
something as a friend. She's like, yeah, sure, I do
anything for you, said, I want to record. I've put
together some stuff and I want to record a couple
of other things. So when I pass, you publish this,
(01:42):
not the book, like a video, like an online post.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I don't know if I love it or hate it.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Yeah, So it's not an announcement. It's not obituary. It
is a final message direct from that person.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Yea.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Yeah, it's been produced while they were alive, yes, yes,
and posted in death.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
And there's a colajah pictures and again.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
But it's not it's not like, oh hey we lost
Elliott and here's a you know, here's a video of
him hugging Diane when she bowled her strike and here
he is wheeling around on his knee scooter.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
It is I would have put it together, really had
clips from the last two Yes, that's what I'm whispering
to Jackie.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
I've seen, but I've seen like some tiktoker's post stuff
like this where it's like if you if you're seeing
this now, you know that you know that I've passed,
And is that only it'll be a message on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
But I guess it's on any of them. R.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Yeah, it'll be like you know, uh, here's messages of
love from my family and friends. I encourage you to
get screenings that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
So you do not want to be tasked with that responsibility.
I don't. I don't. I don't. Could you even do
the first part? What's that help make the video? I
don't think so. I don't think so.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
If somebody wanted to do that, what do you mean,
what's the harm in helping them because it makes you uncomfortable?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
They're the ones dying.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Okay, that's that's that's harsh.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Sorry, perspective serious, Yeah, I mean the but it's shaky
with that camera, b Elliott.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
The can you get your finger at it? Because you're crying,
not because you're terrible at filming yourself? The the I
would I would I help. I don't.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I would try not to. I would try not to.
I'm very comfortable around death, very comfortable. Uncomfortable around it.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Okay, you're missing uncomfortable. You said comfortable?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
No, no, very uncomfortable. Oh, very no. I don't like it.
I like living.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
If somebody asked me to do that for them, I
would do that for them. I'm not going to say
no to that. Please don't go with it makes me
feel all oogy and I like living. Yeah no, but
I'm very uncomfortable with death. Well, nobody is truly comfortable
with it.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
You just have to.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
It's it's something you rally around the person and do
if that's what they want.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
See if the person is that close to you, Elliott,
they know this about you, and they're not asking, not
request this of you. Yeah good, but is that no
final favors? Please, Kristen will use honestly?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Will you?
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Will you see if somebody's had to like post something
like that, like maybe they didn't have to be involved
even in the production of it, but they had to
be involved in the in the posting of it.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
So somebody knows that, like they've been emailed a file.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, So like for example, ahead of time's Jackie and
I right, and they Jackie knows that once I that
she's sending this email to Tyler and then Tyler's going
to post it on all the E I T M
online sites.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
But it'll be some a word from Elliott an you
know that for the funeral note, we set a message
from Elie.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Sorry message no but will will you find me somebody
that's done that please? I also don't know, Oh, I'll
give the number eight six six to Elliott eight six
six two three five five four six eight.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I also don't know that I've ever seen one. Well,
Diane's saying she has. You've seen them, yeah, and I
mean it is. But you make them funny, like lighthearted.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I think people can if that's what they want to do.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Are they a little bit odd to watch?
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Yeah, because you're feeling like, wow, this person is no
longer here, but yet this was one of the last
things that they did while they were still well enough
to do it.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Race.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Can you tell in terms of timeline? Was this so
far in advance or are these usually the last thing
they can possibly do before it gets so dire?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I bet it was.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
It's probably that, Yes, it's not.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I'm not doing it when I'm twenty three. No, no, no, no,
when I'm eighty. I'm saying, is it six months out
or is it two weeks before? I bet it's closer
to them two weeks yeah, yeah, like I'm wear to bandana.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Treatment so you can start wearing Bandana's years out.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Okay, there's probably actually had nothing to do a treatment.
He's like, I've always wanted to wear a bandana.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
There's probably a little vanity that comes into that, like
if I'm going to record myself, I'm not gonna you know,
I want to to still look somewhat like myself, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yes, Oh, I believe that. So sure Jackie said to
do a face swap and only posted on snapshat.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I want mine to be member him?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And are these why would you be able to so?
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Are these posted then on the I know that Diane
is seeing them on TikTok, and they're probably maybe people
who had some following. But when it's somebody who doesn't
have a level of.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Fame, book, yes, do you do you post it? Do
you get access to that person's page? Or do you
post it on your personal page? When you're just wanting
family to see it, family and friends to see it.
It's not meant for the general public. No, but it's you,
it's your group.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, I mean you're not like an influencer.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
No, well, I mean not everybody's Kim Kardashian.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
No, But I'm just saying, like a lot of people
still have people that follow them, that have never met
them before, you know, But I'm just saying.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Do you are still if you're tasked with this, you're
you're logging into their account to post.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
I would think that they probably have that set up
ahead of time, Like listen, this is this is how
I want this to go out.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, you would put it on their.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Page, like I don't know who the friend is Okay,
I didn't know. Yeah, no, you'd have to put it
on their page. Like give me your password? You want
that everybody? I want to in your twenties for when
you're eighty, I'm the password holder.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Oh he would just it gives me the ugs wish
day in sorry out that you never have to send
that video.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I got to be. I don't even think I can
make it.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
That you couldn't help them produce it.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I couldn't help them produce it. I couldn't do it myself.
I couldn't. I couldn't. I don't want to see it.
Oh would you ever watch it? If say you can't
help make it, but you're given it, you would publish
it and never watch it.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
If I'm I'm tasked with having to publish it, but
maybe a spouse did it with them oh, I couldn't
watch it. I couldn't watch it.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
No, huh, huh, you're just like, although you know what
I say that I've I've seen home movies of like my.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Brother Okay, that is very different than the Oh yeah,
I mean I guess it is video. And at the
end of it, he wasn't going like.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
No, I mean, we've we've all seen like when they
do like montages that air is part of like a
wake or memorial or.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
That I've watched, Yeah, that I've watched.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Maybe we just cry a lot yours, Kristen, I cry
a lot, he did for I do cry a lot
during those.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yes, usually the context is quite emotional. Yes, well, yeah,
they're not doing it.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
They don't put one of these together because you got
a promotion at work.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, but we did it for twenty five years. And again,
by we, I mean Kristin and Mike, Mike out, where
am I going? Mike? He didn't No, Hi, Elliott in
the morning?
Speaker 6 (09:37):
Good hey man? Uh this is this was actually a
Michael Keaton movie back in the day. Like he found
out he was dying from cancer, right, so he made
his son a whole bunch of VHS tapes to play
throughout his life. So like when he turned sixteen and
started driving, he had a videotape to watch, or when
he had his first kid, he had a videotape to watch.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
So it was kind of been done. Can I can
I ask you?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
That was nineteen ninety three of the movie was called
My Life.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
That was right before Beetlejuice.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Well yeah, yeah, you know that way after Bele Oh.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
So he did Beetlejuice and then he did videos.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
The no no no, But what I was going to
say is it's I understand your point, and yes, you're
you're you're, you're right kind of, but that wasn't public
like that was just for like his his family, So
it wasn't like they were being It wasn't like they
were being broadcast for everybody to see. It wasn't like
(10:38):
I went to Michael Keaton dot com and was watching them. Yeah,
but I do understand. I understand your point. It's I mean,
it's it's close, but it's not you understand what I mean.
It's like a slant on rhyme. Yeah, yeah right, I'm uncomfortable.
All right, very good, very good, thank you sir, thank you.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, because I feel like we've seen or heard of before,
people writing lets yeah, oh to be OK at future dates.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
So it's like this is for and it's maybe not birthdays,
but it's milestones like graduations and weds.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
No, it's heartbreaking to even think about. No. I would
never do that. So how are you helping in any way?
I'm actually not.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I mean I'll go to the funeral.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
No, I would.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I told you I've totally reversed courses on that the No,
but I'm not. I'm not helping. I don't want to.
I don't want to watch it. I don't want to
tape it. I don't want to publish it. I don't
want to know of it. I don't want somebody to
come to me and go have you seen like?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
You're not going to try to dissuade the person from
doing this stuff, are you? It depends on how close
I am. If they're telling me I exclusively have to
help with this, then yes I am.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
No. No, I would just say you've got the wrong
person for that, like you. Obviously you don't know me
like I thought you did.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
So if you were close, you would say don't do it.
I would? I would? I would. I would say to them.
You gotta do what you gotta do.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Another thing on my list and before I die.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
But but for I, I let me be the voice
of some people. Mm hmmm mm hmmm.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Well it's not you're not forced to watch anything. And again,
I'm dying, but I'm sorry you're so uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah, but you kind of are, like I wouldn't watch it. Definitely,
I wouldn't watch it. I definitely wouldn't. Well, but don't
you want to double check your work? Like, don't you
want to upload? No, I'm being serious. Don't you want
to upload the file and make make sure it's Yeah.
Speaker 7 (12:39):
No, it's not like, oh look, oh that I meant
to put up this nice tribute, but instead it's Diane
getting hugged by a random guy in a flannel because
he just bowled a strike because that's what was on
my desktop.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah, you want to check your work. I get that.
It's it's it's very odd to me, very very odd to.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Me, and in this day and age, very what that
means digital life we live, these are going to become
more and more common.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, oh absolutely, if they're not already, I don't even
think I would have the wherewithal the mindset to even
think to do one. Oh, if you were diagnosed, Yeah,
I don't even think that it would cross my mind
of I should do this.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
So you But but if you're if you're telling others
not to do it, Hey, why don't you blank?
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Now?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
It would be so hypocritical if you're like, hey, longest
blank now he banked and he won't open. I'll blink.
But I'm dead. But you see that it is hypocritical.
What's that if you were totally in for it for yourself,
but I would, but wouldn't help somebody else. No, that's
not true either.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
There's plenty of things I do for myself that I
wouldn't do for somebody else.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
No, that's true.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
And I'm not saying that I do good things for
myself and bad things for other people. I actually think that,
as empathetic as I am, I do better things for
better or other people than I do for myself.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Oh, I thought it was selfish behavior and indifference. Christ
It says line three, Hi Elliot the morning.
Speaker 8 (14:22):
Hi, Hi, Hi. So my sister passed away at the
end of twenty twenty one, and on fathe thank you.
My sister had a friend who was one of her
caretakers post a message and it popped up after she
passed away. And to see that pop up of the
alert that you're getting a message from someone blew my mind.
(14:46):
It was I wasn't expecting it.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I hated it.
Speaker 8 (14:49):
Yeah, so for me, the perspective of doing it.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
So the other thing, you're catching somebody off guard of,
like you know, like probably.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I knew it.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
She just on a vacation time. No, no, but I
could see where that would be alarming. I didn't think
about the lack of a heads up.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yeah I did.
Speaker 8 (15:08):
Were going to give it to She had hundreds and
hundreds of friends.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I mean, you know who posted it.
Speaker 8 (15:13):
We live in that day and age, and to see
it posted, to see it pop up, it's just it was.
It was unexpected and already in that moment of being
shocked and breathing and what have you, to have that
pop up was just wretched. So, you know, different perspective.
Good for the people who thought it was a good plan,
but you know, not so much on my part.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
That's another reason.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Now, I don't remember all the pieces that went into
your story, but if I need it, I'm going to
call you.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Was she offended? Though having not been asked. No, I.
Speaker 8 (15:44):
Wasn't offended that you know. But but but at the
same time I was startled.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
But if you would have been the one that was
told about it and given to posts, would you have
felt different about it?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I don't.
Speaker 8 (15:57):
I wouldn't have wanted to post it for her, But
at the same time, I would have done it because
she asked. But no, I don't think I would have
felt anything. I just felt like it was like like
she died all over again.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Right, Can I can? I? Can?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I say something real quick and maybe not popular, the like,
just just because someone is ill doesn't mean you have
to do things for them.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Did that not come out right? Didn't the no? No?
Speaker 5 (16:28):
No?
Speaker 1 (16:28):
But like saying like I'm I'm against it, but if
they were ill and they asked me, I feel like
I would have to. That would be like saying like, well,
you know, I'm against bank robbery, but they're ill and
they asked me.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
You're not asking you to 're asking you to post.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Something, but you don't have to do it just because
somebody is.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
You don't have to.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
But a lot of times in that in that scenario,
you're putting aside your own uncomfortable feelings to do something
for somebody.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Listen when when handicapped, Vince had a trake, right, I
didn't like trakes. I didn't want to be around a trake.
I was young, but I did it. I cleared his
trake and like, suck that thing out. Yeah, because I
did it for handicap dance, right.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
But I didn't have to. I could have just looked
at him and said, I can't vin it, I can't,
I can't do this.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Do it yourself.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
There's certain times when you're required to rally. How much
time did you say you left? Oh my god, the
death and the posting?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
How long? How long? How long until you got the
heads the notice the video video.
Speaker 8 (17:26):
It wasn't a video, it was just a posting and
it was just a day later.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Oh oh wow.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Because I was thinking, she said it felt like she
died all over again. It was going to be much later.
So we got to get it up within twelve hours.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
It was close to that. What is I don't know
what the timeline is.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
First, those idiots careful, all right, very good, very good, God, sorry,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
But you don't have to do it.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
No, you don't have to.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
But I thank you, but thank you for thinking of me.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
No, but now they're they're gone, and then you're kind
of ruminating over things, and you're like, I couldn't put
aside me being you know, a little bit of a baby,
because it made me feel so uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
To help them.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
I'm not they're not asking you to rub a bank,
but but to help them in their last days, asked.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Me to do something I'm uncomfortable with. Hi, Yelli in
the morning.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
God, oh and in my video, And Diane, if you're
seeing this, please go eat, Please go to Chief Queen
the queen and eat.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Some guinea pig.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Well that I wouldn't do.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Oh okay, then you know what, Now you're just saying petty.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Hi, real quick? Who is this?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Hi?
Speaker 9 (18:38):
Is this mate?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (18:39):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Who are you?
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Hi?
Speaker 9 (18:42):
So I have stage four cancer and I've been sick
for a while. So yeah, my friends, you know, it's
it's kind of a it's a running joke. You know,
they never really know when you're gonna die, so so
things keep changing. So I have one of my one
of my close friends record a video. You know, I
still wanted to look good in the video. So not
(19:05):
all cancers make you look like, you know, like you're
at death door. I still look pretty pretty damn good.
Like people go, oh, really you're dying. I'm like, yeah,
I'm dying. I promise, I swear I'm dying.
Speaker 7 (19:16):
But yeah, I recorded one.
Speaker 9 (19:18):
Mine's a little different, you know. I you know, I
had my things to say, but then I had like
all the things that you know that you want to
say to people, but you never do because it's just
too polite, like yeah, I know what you said about me.
I know you you did X, Y and Z to me,
so you do.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah, all of a sudden video absolutely are you serious?
Speaker 9 (19:41):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Oh my god. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (19:43):
And then I have one that I want played at
my service where you know, I go, oh my god,
are you here? You really had the go all to
come to my memorials?
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Wow, you look at you. That's great.
Speaker 8 (19:55):
I won't be here.
Speaker 9 (19:56):
I won't be here and I need to get it.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
All out, you know, Hey, are you done with the videos?
Like are they done? Yeah? My videos are done?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
So like you could you couldn't go in now and
just like at the end add like oh and hey
yeah I.
Speaker 9 (20:10):
Can no, no, no, no, I can't add, I can add you
can always add because somebody will probably screw me over
between now and depth.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I totally believe it.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Just stay on the line, can you Is there any
chance at the end you can encourage people to listen
to the show?
Speaker 2 (20:23):
My god?
Speaker 9 (20:24):
Sure absolutely?
Speaker 6 (20:25):
Why not?
Speaker 9 (20:25):
I've been listening to your show forever.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah no, just at the end, just be like and
by the way, it would it would you know what?
You know what would make me happy up here? Uh?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Listen Eli in the morning. Well, do you believe in
the afterlife? Who is posting them? Oh? Good question?
Speaker 9 (20:43):
The person my significant others posting them?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
And were they happy to assist you unlike Elliott?
Speaker 9 (20:53):
Well not really, but you know it is you know
they they said, you know, I'll do it for you
because I know it's important to you and I want
to make sure you don't screw me out of anything
in the well, So I'm gonna go ahead and.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Agree to this, right all right? All right? Wow? Yeah right,
you know, all right.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
We'll get it, get a get a show plug in
there before everything's done.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Would you sounds good? Guys? Hey, do you want a shirt?
That sounds horrible? Yesterday said it took two months to
go her mindset this one. Her mindset is incredible. Yeah,
you sound great.
Speaker 9 (21:40):
It could be it could be a month, you know,
it could be a little bit longer, so you never know.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Never mind, then, all right, very good, hold on, hold
on one second, hold on one second.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Oh I'm so uncomfortable. But that energy is she's great.
Energy is infectious. Yeah, no, she's qutly not too much.