January 23, 2025 • 27 mins
By the way, how is it that the victim's name sounds like the phoniest part?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A Tennessee man recently received a letter telling him he's
now a millionaire after inheriting a multimillion dollar fortune from
an unknown distant relative. For the scammers to make the
notification look real, it came from an attorney. On the
letterhead is the name and address of the law office
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in Canada.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
So we it's a.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Legit law office. Huh in Canada? So I don't know
how they got the letterhead a fake?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
No, yes, letterhead.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Yeah, look at it. Look at all of the fake
like Venmo and PayPal emails. You look at I'm like, well,
it looks like they're a loco.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Do you think you could create recreate a company's legal letterhead.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I don't think you could.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
If you had a copy that you were able to
get online.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah, you don't.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Need any sort of skills. It's photoshopper any software. You
could do that pretty easily.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Okay. On the letterhead is the name and address of it.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
But they even got like the address and everything right anyway,
the name, the name and the address of a law
office in Canada. It said that Carl Zach. Carl Zach
is the guy in Tennessee. Carl Zach's deceased relative passed
away during the pandemic, and it has taken four years
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to find a living relative.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
That's pretty good. Yeah, that's really good.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
That's really I mean it's bad, right, but that's a
good scam.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
The guy, what did I say? His name was Carl.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Carl said, I'm supposed to get ten point eight million dollars.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I was very excited, of.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Course, but also it's super skeptical.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Did the scammers get greedy? That's a lot of money. Okay,
either you can scam someone with a smaller dollar amount,
like say like one hundred thousand or twenty five thousand. Yes, yeah, no,
what did this guy do in Canada?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I don't know. He didn't even it's a law. He's
a relative, he didn't even know.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Well what did they say, like, oh, multi billionaire? Whoever
left you this money? They said this guy tied him
to a company or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Oh, I don't know. All the deep Let me keep reading.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Zach's excitement about the fortune he was about to receive
didn't last long. An official looking letter from an attorney
arrived earlier this month. In the surname or the decedent's
last name was the same as Zach's explaining that a
woman named Maria Zach, he immediately went, man, right, well,
I mean you see that kind of money.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
You're thinking what woman could earn that? Whoops.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Anyway, Maria Zach unfortunately passed away due to COVID and
he was her only living relative who could claim the money.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
He thought it was amazing that they were able to
really or to locate him.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I would feel bless.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
That's why I took that long.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
The envelope Zach received is postmarked in Canada. Curious about
the attorney's legitimacy, he went to the website. When I
went online, the attorneys absolutely exist in Toronto.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Do you have the name of the firm? I don't.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Maria Zach, I had never heard of the lady, and
not only that they were ready to disperse the funds,
which within thirty days.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I get it, Like, do you think it's possible, Diane?
Speaker 6 (03:54):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I don't know if possible is the right word. Maybe
plausible is a better word. Well, like a sourus today,
is it plausible that you have a distant relative that
you don't know exists? Sir?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Of course, of course.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
It was Richmond Partners. That's the name of the law
firm and it is right here online.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Oh well, that's official full.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Service Canadian law firm, dedicated to serving clients as a
valued best legal council option. Thank you, Like, do you
believe Young Street in Toronto?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Do you believe it's plausible that you have a distant
relative that.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
You don't even know exists? Yes?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Of course. I think everybody would say that. Maybe not Kristin, no, because.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
She knows everybody.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
But I was gonna say, like, didn't everybody in the
family kind of live in that little bucket of a town,
So maybe you would think not.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
But even for Kristin, I would say that it's possible.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
The letter states the ten point eight million is from
an unclaimed insurance policy and after an exhaustive search, Zach
is the fortunate recipient. This lady was apparently a respected
stockbroker and retired CPA.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
So now we did find out what the what she did?
I went online. You would think someone would be on
the internet with that kind of name. I couldn't find
anything on Maria Zach. Zach fortunately did not respond to
the letter. But the FTC that's the Federal Trade Commission.
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They just went on to say, this is where the
scammers hit. They tell you that because it's international, that
the funds are going to be very hard to transfer,
and you start getting into the currency exchange rate, which
I think is at one point four to four, like
it's almost time to start buying. The money would be
difficult to access because of government regulation, taxes, bank restrictions.
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But you could see that. You could see someone going like, hey, listen,
I'm in Montreal in order to transfer this, like you're
talking about currency exchange, and then you got to pay
a fee for the currency exchange.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
It's going to get tied up in in.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Back and forth bureaucracy, like this is going to be
a headache. So if you could just go pick up
some gift cards, that would be awesome. It's always gift cards.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Did they do gift cards for him?
Speaker 7 (06:29):
The no?
Speaker 5 (06:30):
That why he finally realized there was a scam, Like
what moment did he?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
No? The moment was second he couldn't find anything about
if that that he his whole thing was if this
woman accrued ten million dollars as a CPA and stockbroker,
there should be something on the internet.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
About her.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
So they did go too high. But I'm looking at
the letter here by.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
The way I would have I would I would be
more apt to jump high than low.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
It's sent from an Eric E. Richmond, and he is
the legal counsel at Richmond Partners.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Oh yeah, on their.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Website, everything about everything about the law firm is one
hundred percent true.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I mean minus the fact that they sent the letter.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
But the names, the letter head, they got, the address,
everything on there.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Is Sitch Elliott, the address. That's that's all.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
People make mistakes over stupid things. People make mistakes over
dumb things. They can get the whole thing right. It'd
be like, well they're at sixty nine, but whole.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Way that would be the red flag.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I wouldn't even notice it. I mean, like, that's an awesome,
great address. See, the number to me would be more.
It would be would throw me off more if it
was low.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
But if you see ten million, and then you go
check because you assume this person's got to be written
about somewhere, even if it's in a business periodical, you've
then done enough to realize it's a scam. The numbers
a little bit lower.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
So if it was twenty grand. You wouldn't have even looked.
You would have been like, sweet, I have a long
lost relative. It's twenty grand here. I got to run
out and get gift cards for Bob Pittman, I may
as well get.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Them for you. I don't see anything in this letter
about No, there's nothing about gift cards. There's nothing about
gift card.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
They just they wanted a fee, which is often they
say a sign too that something's a scam. Yeah, but
if you see twenty thousand, that's a lot of money.
But then you're not searching Maria Zach. You're thinking, Wow,
I'm the only living relative and this is what she
had left and she's giving it to me.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I would be more plausible.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I would be blinded by the excitement that I'm getting
ready to fall into millions.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
You'd be on the Today's show Plaza.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
To let them get I'm so excited if you thought
you were going to get ten million dollars.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
But is the inheritance scam a big one a growing one?
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Like is this law firm used a lot from and
was it actually sent from Canada?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Or is everything it was postmarked from Canada? Was it
put in his mailbox? What do you mean, well he
got to his house.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
But did they fake does was it not actually sent
about from uh up North?
Speaker 6 (09:10):
No?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
No, But if there's going to be a postmark, you
can fake that stuff. How do you fake a postmark?
Get a stamp? That's easy? That stuff's easy.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
No, because it still has to have not the stamp
of the of the of the country.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
But it's got it. It has to go through the
postal system.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Trust me, you can convince someone something has been said.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Well, I could convince so. I mean there's a lot
of stupid people. I could convince people of stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
People get a lot dumber when you're talking about money,
especially ten.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
I'm looking up to see if there's been warnings in
Toronto sent out about people using this firm's name Timmy.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I'm getting inherent an inheritance first named Timmy, last name box. Yes,
they have sent out so this so this wait scam notices.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Yes, that use this Richmond Partners law firm.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Wow, how pissed are they? Well, now I'm now questioning
their website.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Oh wait, so now you don't think it's a legit.
It's not even a real legal firm.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Is that? What's the number?
Speaker 5 (10:27):
This is definitely. Well, you to call those radio guys
up there.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
The oh, I don't think they are. What was their
name Zach and Cody?
Speaker 8 (10:39):
Ye?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Why does that name sound familiar to me? Our show?
Speaker 7 (10:44):
Yeah, that's why it sounds familiar.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Jesus, Hello, they love me. The name is Zachy Cody.
I don't remember their names. I have no idea line too. Hi,
Elliot in the morning. Hey Elliott, Yes, sir, Hey, there's
me and my wife.
Speaker 8 (11:10):
We used to we used to do a lot of
Forge talking this for school and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
It's the easiest thing. I'm sorry. What Yeah, it's just
like it's so easy. Oh, you have to do like
google the Hey can I can I ma'am? Can I
can I ask a favor?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
And I don't mean to put your husband out of this,
but it's it's really loud in the car.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Can you can you pick up please?
Speaker 8 (11:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Oh there you are. Wait, so what are you What
are you doing with Forge paperwork?
Speaker 8 (11:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
If you.
Speaker 8 (11:43):
Just google the company and google their logo, it's literally
just copy and taste the logo to the top of
a paper. Then you write whatever you want to write
and print it out and it's it's done. It's the
easiest thing in the world. I've used it for like
if my children need it, doctor's excuse is get the
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work for to play sports. If I need like documentation
for something at my job, like I never like really
get that stuff. And then we even order like stamps.
You need to go to a stamp website that sells
them and you can just put whatever you want. So
like I have a stamp with my doctor's name on
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it and address. I just make up my own stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Are you serious?
Speaker 8 (12:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
So wait, like if your kid needs medical clearance to
play like football or something like, they'll have to go
get like a like my kids had to do that,
Like you have to go get physicals.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So yes, you have a stamp made up, so it
would be.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Like from the doctor, like the doctor who my doctor
who did my leg is is doctor and Nunziata. I
go online and I order something that says doctor Chris
and Nunziata and I'm I'm like, you do my boys
are cleared to play football? Stamp exactly you do?
Speaker 8 (13:00):
You can do it and like yeah, you can get
it like in two days, and it saves a lot
of time because I have like four kids and I'm
not going to be waiting in doctor's offices for stuff
like that all the time.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Hey, so you use that for like absences, like you
just stamping as the doctor and just go like yep,
Jimmy got Yeah.
Speaker 8 (13:25):
You can use it for anything. Like when this was
a while, this was like maybe twenty years ago, but
when me and my husband first moved into an apartment,
like we weren't making enough money to you know, qualify
for it, so like I forged the pay stuffs for
us and everything. Especially if you just want if you
if you just need copies of stuff, if they'll accept
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copies in your golden it's nothing that you It's the
easiest thing.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
There's probably like in someplace I probably shouldn't be laughing,
but that cracks me up.
Speaker 8 (14:01):
Yeah, well yeah, if you're using it, you know, to
trick people and do bad things. But I just do
it for convenience, and you know, with the apartment and stuff,
like you knew we could afford it.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
But you know, I know, I know, I know. Hey, listen,
I was in the same boat. I was on TeleCheck.
Where were you when I needed you? I would have
gotten it everywhere.
Speaker 8 (14:22):
Yay, you can do it yourself. I'm telling you it's
super super easy.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
That's good. All right, very good. But call it the day.
Thank you, ma'am, thank you. I love I know people
were like, now Donni Lane whatever. I loved her. And
it's victimless.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Oh you hate for the child to have some Oh
my god.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
But he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
She had no, she hadn't been a doctor.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Doctor signed off on it.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Okay, speaking of sorts though, Yes, going back to Richmond Partners.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Oh wait, did we determine if this is a real
law firm.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Well, here's and here's the sports connection somebody because I
read you the address, somebody said that's definitely the Hockey
Hall of Fame, and I looked it up and it
is the Hockey Hall of Fame address.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I've never been there. Is that it is a building. But
does it share that building? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Yes, so are they onlike the main floor and then
there's offices above it.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Okay, it's not a safeway, Diane.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Well, I don't know the no, no, but I mean
there's there's a lot of buildings right around there. In
the buildings there, I think it shares. I mean, it
has its own entrance, but so does Safeway across the street.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
What's the Do they have a phone number?
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Because here's the other thing. There's a very similar looking
website that has been described as a scam law firm.
The name alone, would I feel like set off some
alarm bells. Mike Slocum, No, Murray Seaman. But the website
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looks exactly like the Richmond Partners one.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Oh really? Which if you're yes, you.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Can probably find some sort of web developer who just
uses a template for for different law firms and stuff.
But because we know both are tied to scams, maybe
Richmond Partners is a completely.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Fake bag outfit. Wow, do they have a number?
Speaker 5 (16:25):
What's Murray Seaman's address? Hold on his website? Hold on,
it's not loading, But earlier I couldn't get the Washingtonian
to load. I have the number for Richmond Partners.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah, write it down real quick. And then we got
to get the phone.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Number for Murray Semen, let me see what the Hockey
Hall of Famous phone number is and see if it matches.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Oh, that's a front desk thing. How the Hall of
Fame shares space. It's a whole downtown area. But that's weird.
But it has its own entrance. It's Canada. How is
that possible? Canada is a big country.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
No, Cooperstown or Canton is their standalone buildings.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
You know, Toronto is bigger than Cooper'stown, like Cooper'stown, not Cooperstown.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Toronto is a big, massive downtown.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
That would be like that would be like putting the
Hall of Fame in Manhattan.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Is it the same? No, it is not the same.
Who is that? Is that? Semen? That's the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Wait, where's where's Richmond Partners? Yeah? I have right here,
I mean right down for yeah, all right. I would
be careful.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
They often say you don't want to say much in
case it is a scammer, because then they're going to
use your voice.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Use my voice. But this I got a stamp with
your name on it. Ee, Richmond.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
But is your voice recorded anywhere else that anyone can access?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
What is the oh?
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah? Two eight nine? What is this number? Two? Is
that a five? Oh five? Here?
Speaker 6 (18:05):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
My god? Time it says area code two eight nine
is Ontario?
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:08):
No, I know, but I can't make out they're at
the Hockey Hall of fair Wait you can't read that?
Speaker 5 (18:14):
No, I was nervous writing it. I don't want this
to expose us, and like yesterday accidentally docks myself on
Instagram stories. I didn't realize my library card number was
on a picture I had posted.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Oh quick, get me to the library. I got to
check out a book in Tyler's name.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Nobody's doing it.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
I deleted very quickly and use an animated gift of
a dragon over the number.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
But it was up there for a good minute.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Oh oh no, scammers.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Sat forward twenty years. I checked out a book and
I never returns it.
Speaker 7 (18:47):
But I'm just seeing And even the library was like,
nobody gives an ad two days in a row of
exposing our sensitive information?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
What was the day before? A library card?
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Oh this two? Two? Is that a four? Yes? What
is it? What's the name of the firms? I wanted
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to be?
Speaker 6 (19:21):
So?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Who's calling my mother? Evan House?
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Hello? Eric Richmond?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Is this Eric?
Speaker 6 (19:37):
Yes? Eric speaking?
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Who's are you in the office?
Speaker 6 (19:42):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
I am What kind of law firm are you.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
Coming?
Speaker 3 (19:49):
In?
Speaker 6 (19:49):
Law fame? Who is calling?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
My name is Scott Stupar, Harry Scott?
Speaker 6 (19:57):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I am doing excellent? Thank you?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I'm inquiring about an inheritance email that I have received,
okay from your law firm.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
That's correct.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I had a long lost relative that I guess you
that you helped represent the family.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
That's right, and track me down. Yes, forgive me.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
If I sound caught off guard, I just I just
caught me totally out of the blue, no worries.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
Can you send me an email confirming that you got
that letter and you would like to have more details?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Well, I don't understand.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
Send me an email confirming that you have received the letter.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yeah, but you mailed it. You mailed it to me.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
That's what I'm saying. Confirming my email address is on
the letter. What you're having your hands?
Speaker 2 (21:01):
You got a fast machine?
Speaker 6 (21:06):
Can?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I'm saying, Well, I don't understand why I need to
confirm that I got it. You mailed it to me,
and I'm calling you. As it says in the email.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Now I gave you an email address to write me
an email so I can share.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Hello. Oh hung up?
Speaker 3 (21:24):
By the way, he hung up? Yeah he's the scammer.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yes, yes, it says clear channel.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Thanks for putting a maiden name.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
I froze.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
I couldn't think of anybody you want me to call?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Him back and go, I'm kidding my name. Disregard that name.
I was kidding my name. My name's Dustin Matthews. That's funny. No,
because I thought he would think it was Austin Matthews.
That crossed my mind.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
He didn't even get to ask him about that.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
He's the scammer. You know what's crazy? The did he
want my Why did he want my email? You threw
him off because you said you got an email. That's
not how they do it.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
Oh, then I'll call him back and say, I got
a letter in your name. Hi, if it is legit right?
That guy's voice does not match his picture. Did you
see Eric E.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Richmond?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Is ERICI Richmond? The one guy on the left that
is not him? That is not him?
Speaker 8 (22:38):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
How about we got the scammer? We got Why are
you shaking? Because I'm nervous for he.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Doesn't like to be that that close to evil.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I didn't like when we woke up hockey players, we
called the scammer. Damn we talked to the skip, Yes
I did.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
I'm surprised he hung up.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
How did he know?
Speaker 3 (23:05):
And he hung up like mid sentence. That was weird.
Speaker 7 (23:08):
I think he knew that I was. He probably thinks
I'm the fun said you were Murray Seaman.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Why didn't somebody write down a name? I was.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I didn't have a name, and so I'm looking at
Diane like help me, and she did so I was like.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Scotster Bart. This is like when we talked to Hugh Jackman.
Speaker 8 (23:34):
I am doing.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Well.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
If he looked like Hugh Jackman.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
He may look at the papers. Actually very attractive on
their website.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
It didn't sound it though. We talked to the scammer,
Oh my god, that's awesome. We may have just blown
up an international state.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Well maybe, hmmm.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Do you think this is going to put a wrench
in the scam?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yes? I feel like that just blew it up. I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Let me ask Zach Kurtz or whatever his name is.
What was the guy's name, Carl Zach? Well, he also
blew it up.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
I think first though, before you ask him, we should
ask inter.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Paul how about that?
Speaker 1 (24:15):
So it's a fake law fer and that went to
his house and he's got a fax machine.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
I can't believe you said Scott's I know I needed
help at that moment, and no one was helping me.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Oh watch I'm gonna get at it somehow. I'm gonna
get a letter in like two days.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
You've just come into some money.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
No, because when he said email, I was thinking, who's email?
And of all the time I can't think of like
but hole sixty nine, like nothing comes to my well,
Scott at stupard dot com.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Shake it out and how about him? Like, yeah, I
sent the email. I'm like, right on, That's how I
knew he was the scale. What did he say for
the type of law firm? I couldn't family, family.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
I thought that's what he said.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah, I mean that's what it sounded. He was a
little hard to understand.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
I heard Stupar a loud and clear big dummy.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
He even repeated it.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Oh that's an odd name. I haven't used that one yet.
Let me try to scam a stupar.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
You think that you think that that's what the sound was.
It wasn't the fax machine. It was pulling up who
if we sent these?
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Don't it sounded like an email on his he was
getting a text.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
So you think he was like looking through like he
was stalling. That's why he hung up.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
He's like, I have every name that I've sent this
to and there is not a Scott Stupar on this.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Call him back and say, I think we got disconnected?
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Oh you want me to?
Speaker 5 (25:53):
This is like the day when we searched to see
who was breached.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Oh, and we all were except you, even Hoy.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Was, except this breach hasn't happened yet. That was good.
Oh my god, Diane's.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Gonna get flooded with that.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Is that why he wanted me to email him? Because
he doesn't have record of sending it?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Does he does actual like letters?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Write Dane. You know he's not a lawyer. No, no, no,
he could be. He could have gone to law school.
And then he's.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Like, am I doing this for when I can scam people? Okay,
there's never been a lawyer. Yes, he's honest for anything,
and usually scammers are so honest. You took an oath, sir,
A Tennessee man recently received a letter telling him he's
now a millionaire after inheriting a multimillion dollar fortune from
an unknown distant relative. For the scammers to make the
notification look real, it came from an attorney. On the
letterhead is the name and address of the law office
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in Canada.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
So we it's a.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Legit law office. Huh in Canada? So I don't know
how they got the letterhead a fake?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
No, yes, letterhead.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Yeah, look at it. Look at all of the fake
like Venmo and PayPal emails. You look at I'm like, well,
it looks like they're a loco.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Do you think you could create recreate a company's legal letterhead.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I don't think you could.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
If you had a copy that you were able to
get online.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah, you don't.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Need any sort of skills. It's photoshopper any software. You
could do that pretty easily.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Okay. On the letterhead is the name and address of it.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
But they even got like the address and everything right anyway,
the name, the name and the address of a law
office in Canada. It said that Carl Zach. Carl Zach
is the guy in Tennessee. Carl Zach's deceased relative passed
away during the pandemic, and it has taken four years
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to find a living relative.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
That's pretty good. Yeah, that's really good.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
That's really I mean it's bad, right, but that's a
good scam.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
The guy, what did I say? His name was Carl.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Carl said, I'm supposed to get ten point eight million dollars.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I was very excited, of.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Course, but also it's super skeptical.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Did the scammers get greedy? That's a lot of money. Okay,
either you can scam someone with a smaller dollar amount,
like say like one hundred thousand or twenty five thousand. Yes, yeah, no,
what did this guy do in Canada?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I don't know. He didn't even it's a law. He's
a relative, he didn't even know.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Well what did they say, like, oh, multi billionaire? Whoever
left you this money? They said this guy tied him
to a company or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Oh, I don't know. All the deep Let me keep reading.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Zach's excitement about the fortune he was about to receive
didn't last long. An official looking letter from an attorney
arrived earlier this month. In the surname or the decedent's
last name was the same as Zach's explaining that a
woman named Maria Zach, he immediately went, man, right, well,
I mean you see that kind of money.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
You're thinking what woman could earn that? Whoops.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Anyway, Maria Zach unfortunately passed away due to COVID and
he was her only living relative who could claim the money.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
He thought it was amazing that they were able to
really or to locate him.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I would feel bless.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
That's why I took that long.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
The envelope Zach received is postmarked in Canada. Curious about
the attorney's legitimacy, he went to the website. When I
went online, the attorneys absolutely exist in Toronto.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Do you have the name of the firm? I don't.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Maria Zach, I had never heard of the lady, and
not only that they were ready to disperse the funds,
which within thirty days.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I get it, Like, do you think it's possible, Diane?
Speaker 6 (03:54):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I don't know if possible is the right word. Maybe
plausible is a better word. Well, like a sourus today,
is it plausible that you have a distant relative that
you don't know exists? Sir?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Of course, of course.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
It was Richmond Partners. That's the name of the law
firm and it is right here online.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Oh well, that's official full.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Service Canadian law firm, dedicated to serving clients as a
valued best legal council option. Thank you, Like, do you
believe Young Street in Toronto?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Do you believe it's plausible that you have a distant
relative that.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
You don't even know exists? Yes?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Of course. I think everybody would say that. Maybe not Kristin, no, because.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
She knows everybody.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
But I was gonna say, like, didn't everybody in the
family kind of live in that little bucket of a town,
So maybe you would think not.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
But even for Kristin, I would say that it's possible.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
The letter states the ten point eight million is from
an unclaimed insurance policy and after an exhaustive search, Zach
is the fortunate recipient. This lady was apparently a respected
stockbroker and retired CPA.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
So now we did find out what the what she did?
I went online. You would think someone would be on
the internet with that kind of name. I couldn't find
anything on Maria Zach. Zach fortunately did not respond to
the letter. But the FTC that's the Federal Trade Commission.
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They just went on to say, this is where the
scammers hit. They tell you that because it's international, that
the funds are going to be very hard to transfer,
and you start getting into the currency exchange rate, which
I think is at one point four to four, like
it's almost time to start buying. The money would be
difficult to access because of government regulation, taxes, bank restrictions.
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But you could see that. You could see someone going like, hey, listen,
I'm in Montreal in order to transfer this, like you're
talking about currency exchange, and then you got to pay
a fee for the currency exchange.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
It's going to get tied up in in.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Back and forth bureaucracy, like this is going to be
a headache. So if you could just go pick up
some gift cards, that would be awesome. It's always gift cards.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Did they do gift cards for him?
Speaker 7 (06:29):
The no?
Speaker 5 (06:30):
That why he finally realized there was a scam, Like
what moment did he?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
No? The moment was second he couldn't find anything about
if that that he his whole thing was if this
woman accrued ten million dollars as a CPA and stockbroker,
there should be something on the internet.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
About her.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
So they did go too high. But I'm looking at
the letter here by.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
The way I would have I would I would be
more apt to jump high than low.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
It's sent from an Eric E. Richmond, and he is
the legal counsel at Richmond Partners.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Oh yeah, on their.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Website, everything about everything about the law firm is one
hundred percent true.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I mean minus the fact that they sent the letter.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
But the names, the letter head, they got, the address,
everything on there.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Is Sitch Elliott, the address. That's that's all.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
People make mistakes over stupid things. People make mistakes over
dumb things. They can get the whole thing right. It'd
be like, well they're at sixty nine, but whole.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Way that would be the red flag.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I wouldn't even notice it. I mean, like, that's an awesome,
great address. See, the number to me would be more.
It would be would throw me off more if it
was low.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
But if you see ten million, and then you go
check because you assume this person's got to be written
about somewhere, even if it's in a business periodical, you've
then done enough to realize it's a scam. The numbers
a little bit lower.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
So if it was twenty grand. You wouldn't have even looked.
You would have been like, sweet, I have a long
lost relative. It's twenty grand here. I got to run
out and get gift cards for Bob Pittman, I may
as well get.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Them for you. I don't see anything in this letter
about No, there's nothing about gift cards. There's nothing about
gift card.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
They just they wanted a fee, which is often they
say a sign too that something's a scam. Yeah, but
if you see twenty thousand, that's a lot of money.
But then you're not searching Maria Zach. You're thinking, Wow,
I'm the only living relative and this is what she
had left and she's giving it to me.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I would be more plausible.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I would be blinded by the excitement that I'm getting
ready to fall into millions.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
You'd be on the Today's show Plaza.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
To let them get I'm so excited if you thought
you were going to get ten million dollars.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
But is the inheritance scam a big one a growing one?
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Like is this law firm used a lot from and
was it actually sent from Canada?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Or is everything it was postmarked from Canada? Was it
put in his mailbox? What do you mean, well he
got to his house.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
But did they fake does was it not actually sent
about from uh up North?
Speaker 6 (09:10):
No?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
No, But if there's going to be a postmark, you
can fake that stuff. How do you fake a postmark?
Get a stamp? That's easy? That stuff's easy.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
No, because it still has to have not the stamp
of the of the of the country.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
But it's got it. It has to go through the
postal system.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Trust me, you can convince someone something has been said.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Well, I could convince so. I mean there's a lot
of stupid people. I could convince people of stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
People get a lot dumber when you're talking about money,
especially ten.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
I'm looking up to see if there's been warnings in
Toronto sent out about people using this firm's name Timmy.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I'm getting inherent an inheritance first named Timmy, last name box. Yes,
they have sent out so this so this wait scam notices.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Yes, that use this Richmond Partners law firm.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Wow, how pissed are they? Well, now I'm now questioning
their website.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Oh wait, so now you don't think it's a legit.
It's not even a real legal firm.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Is that? What's the number?
Speaker 5 (10:27):
This is definitely. Well, you to call those radio guys
up there.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
The oh, I don't think they are. What was their
name Zach and Cody?
Speaker 8 (10:39):
Ye?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Why does that name sound familiar to me? Our show?
Speaker 7 (10:44):
Yeah, that's why it sounds familiar.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Jesus, Hello, they love me. The name is Zachy Cody.
I don't remember their names. I have no idea line too. Hi,
Elliot in the morning. Hey Elliott, Yes, sir, Hey, there's
me and my wife.
Speaker 8 (11:10):
We used to we used to do a lot of
Forge talking this for school and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
It's the easiest thing. I'm sorry. What Yeah, it's just
like it's so easy. Oh, you have to do like
google the Hey can I can I ma'am? Can I
can I ask a favor?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
And I don't mean to put your husband out of this,
but it's it's really loud in the car.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Can you can you pick up please?
Speaker 8 (11:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Oh there you are. Wait, so what are you What
are you doing with Forge paperwork?
Speaker 8 (11:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
If you.
Speaker 8 (11:43):
Just google the company and google their logo, it's literally
just copy and taste the logo to the top of
a paper. Then you write whatever you want to write
and print it out and it's it's done. It's the
easiest thing in the world. I've used it for like
if my children need it, doctor's excuse is get the
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work for to play sports. If I need like documentation
for something at my job, like I never like really
get that stuff. And then we even order like stamps.
You need to go to a stamp website that sells
them and you can just put whatever you want. So
like I have a stamp with my doctor's name on
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it and address. I just make up my own stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Are you serious?
Speaker 8 (12:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
So wait, like if your kid needs medical clearance to
play like football or something like, they'll have to go
get like a like my kids had to do that,
Like you have to go get physicals.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So yes, you have a stamp made up, so it
would be.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Like from the doctor, like the doctor who my doctor
who did my leg is is doctor and Nunziata. I
go online and I order something that says doctor Chris
and Nunziata and I'm I'm like, you do my boys
are cleared to play football? Stamp exactly you do?
Speaker 8 (13:00):
You can do it and like yeah, you can get
it like in two days, and it saves a lot
of time because I have like four kids and I'm
not going to be waiting in doctor's offices for stuff
like that all the time.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Hey, so you use that for like absences, like you
just stamping as the doctor and just go like yep,
Jimmy got Yeah.
Speaker 8 (13:25):
You can use it for anything. Like when this was
a while, this was like maybe twenty years ago, but
when me and my husband first moved into an apartment,
like we weren't making enough money to you know, qualify
for it, so like I forged the pay stuffs for
us and everything. Especially if you just want if you
if you just need copies of stuff, if they'll accept
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copies in your golden it's nothing that you It's the
easiest thing.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
There's probably like in someplace I probably shouldn't be laughing,
but that cracks me up.
Speaker 8 (14:01):
Yeah, well yeah, if you're using it, you know, to
trick people and do bad things. But I just do
it for convenience, and you know, with the apartment and stuff,
like you knew we could afford it.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
But you know, I know, I know, I know. Hey, listen,
I was in the same boat. I was on TeleCheck.
Where were you when I needed you? I would have
gotten it everywhere.
Speaker 8 (14:22):
Yay, you can do it yourself. I'm telling you it's
super super easy.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
That's good. All right, very good. But call it the day.
Thank you, ma'am, thank you. I love I know people
were like, now Donni Lane whatever. I loved her. And
it's victimless.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Oh you hate for the child to have some Oh
my god.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
But he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
She had no, she hadn't been a doctor.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Doctor signed off on it.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Okay, speaking of sorts though, Yes, going back to Richmond Partners.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Oh wait, did we determine if this is a real
law firm.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Well, here's and here's the sports connection somebody because I
read you the address, somebody said that's definitely the Hockey
Hall of Fame, and I looked it up and it
is the Hockey Hall of Fame address.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I've never been there. Is that it is a building. But
does it share that building? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Yes, so are they onlike the main floor and then
there's offices above it.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Okay, it's not a safeway, Diane.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Well, I don't know the no, no, but I mean
there's there's a lot of buildings right around there. In
the buildings there, I think it shares. I mean, it
has its own entrance, but so does Safeway across the street.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
What's the Do they have a phone number?
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Because here's the other thing. There's a very similar looking
website that has been described as a scam law firm.
The name alone, would I feel like set off some
alarm bells. Mike Slocum, No, Murray Seaman. But the website
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looks exactly like the Richmond Partners one.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Oh really? Which if you're yes, you.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Can probably find some sort of web developer who just
uses a template for for different law firms and stuff.
But because we know both are tied to scams, maybe
Richmond Partners is a completely.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Fake bag outfit. Wow, do they have a number?
Speaker 5 (16:25):
What's Murray Seaman's address? Hold on his website? Hold on,
it's not loading, But earlier I couldn't get the Washingtonian
to load. I have the number for Richmond Partners.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah, write it down real quick. And then we got
to get the phone.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Number for Murray Semen, let me see what the Hockey
Hall of Famous phone number is and see if it matches.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Oh, that's a front desk thing. How the Hall of
Fame shares space. It's a whole downtown area. But that's weird.
But it has its own entrance. It's Canada. How is
that possible? Canada is a big country.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
No, Cooperstown or Canton is their standalone buildings.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
You know, Toronto is bigger than Cooper'stown, like Cooper'stown, not Cooperstown.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Toronto is a big, massive downtown.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
That would be like that would be like putting the
Hall of Fame in Manhattan.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Is it the same? No, it is not the same.
Who is that? Is that? Semen? That's the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Wait, where's where's Richmond Partners? Yeah? I have right here,
I mean right down for yeah, all right. I would
be careful.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
They often say you don't want to say much in
case it is a scammer, because then they're going to
use your voice.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Use my voice. But this I got a stamp with
your name on it. Ee, Richmond.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
But is your voice recorded anywhere else that anyone can access?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
What is the oh?
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah? Two eight nine? What is this number? Two? Is
that a five? Oh five? Here?
Speaker 6 (18:05):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
My god? Time it says area code two eight nine
is Ontario?
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:08):
No, I know, but I can't make out they're at
the Hockey Hall of fair Wait you can't read that?
Speaker 5 (18:14):
No, I was nervous writing it. I don't want this
to expose us, and like yesterday accidentally docks myself on
Instagram stories. I didn't realize my library card number was
on a picture I had posted.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Oh quick, get me to the library. I got to
check out a book in Tyler's name.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Nobody's doing it.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
I deleted very quickly and use an animated gift of
a dragon over the number.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
But it was up there for a good minute.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Oh oh no, scammers.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Sat forward twenty years. I checked out a book and
I never returns it.
Speaker 7 (18:47):
But I'm just seeing And even the library was like,
nobody gives an ad two days in a row of
exposing our sensitive information?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
What was the day before? A library card?
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Oh this two? Two? Is that a four? Yes? What
is it? What's the name of the firms? I wanted
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to be?
Speaker 6 (19:21):
So?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Who's calling my mother? Evan House?
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Hello? Eric Richmond?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Is this Eric?
Speaker 6 (19:37):
Yes? Eric speaking?
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Who's are you in the office?
Speaker 6 (19:42):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
I am What kind of law firm are you.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
Coming?
Speaker 3 (19:49):
In?
Speaker 6 (19:49):
Law fame? Who is calling?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
My name is Scott Stupar, Harry Scott?
Speaker 6 (19:57):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I am doing excellent? Thank you?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I'm inquiring about an inheritance email that I have received,
okay from your law firm.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
That's correct.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I had a long lost relative that I guess you
that you helped represent the family.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
That's right, and track me down. Yes, forgive me.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
If I sound caught off guard, I just I just
caught me totally out of the blue, no worries.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
Can you send me an email confirming that you got
that letter and you would like to have more details?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Well, I don't understand.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
Send me an email confirming that you have received the letter.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yeah, but you mailed it. You mailed it to me.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
That's what I'm saying. Confirming my email address is on
the letter. What you're having your hands?
Speaker 2 (21:01):
You got a fast machine?
Speaker 6 (21:06):
Can?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I'm saying, Well, I don't understand why I need to
confirm that I got it. You mailed it to me,
and I'm calling you. As it says in the email.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Now I gave you an email address to write me
an email so I can share.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Hello. Oh hung up?
Speaker 3 (21:24):
By the way, he hung up? Yeah he's the scammer.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yes, yes, it says clear channel.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Thanks for putting a maiden name.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
I froze.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
I couldn't think of anybody you want me to call?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Him back and go, I'm kidding my name. Disregard that name.
I was kidding my name. My name's Dustin Matthews. That's funny. No,
because I thought he would think it was Austin Matthews.
That crossed my mind.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
He didn't even get to ask him about that.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
He's the scammer. You know what's crazy? The did he
want my Why did he want my email? You threw
him off because you said you got an email. That's
not how they do it.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
Oh, then I'll call him back and say, I got
a letter in your name. Hi, if it is legit right?
That guy's voice does not match his picture. Did you
see Eric E.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Richmond?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Is ERICI Richmond? The one guy on the left that
is not him? That is not him?
Speaker 8 (22:38):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
How about we got the scammer? We got Why are
you shaking? Because I'm nervous for he.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Doesn't like to be that that close to evil.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I didn't like when we woke up hockey players, we
called the scammer. Damn we talked to the skip, Yes
I did.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
I'm surprised he hung up.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
How did he know?
Speaker 3 (23:05):
And he hung up like mid sentence. That was weird.
Speaker 7 (23:08):
I think he knew that I was. He probably thinks
I'm the fun said you were Murray Seaman.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Why didn't somebody write down a name? I was.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I didn't have a name, and so I'm looking at
Diane like help me, and she did so I was like.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Scotster Bart. This is like when we talked to Hugh Jackman.
Speaker 8 (23:34):
I am doing.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Well.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
If he looked like Hugh Jackman.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
He may look at the papers. Actually very attractive on
their website.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
It didn't sound it though. We talked to the scammer,
Oh my god, that's awesome. We may have just blown
up an international state.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Well maybe, hmmm.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Do you think this is going to put a wrench
in the scam?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yes? I feel like that just blew it up. I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Let me ask Zach Kurtz or whatever his name is.
What was the guy's name, Carl Zach? Well, he also
blew it up.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
I think first though, before you ask him, we should
ask inter.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Paul how about that?
Speaker 1 (24:15):
So it's a fake law fer and that went to
his house and he's got a fax machine.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
I can't believe you said Scott's I know I needed
help at that moment, and no one was helping me.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Oh watch I'm gonna get at it somehow. I'm gonna
get a letter in like two days.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
You've just come into some money.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
No, because when he said email, I was thinking, who's email?
And of all the time I can't think of like
but hole sixty nine, like nothing comes to my well,
Scott at stupard dot com.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Shake it out and how about him? Like, yeah, I
sent the email. I'm like, right on, That's how I
knew he was the scale. What did he say for
the type of law firm? I couldn't family, family.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
I thought that's what he said.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah, I mean that's what it sounded. He was a
little hard to understand.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
I heard Stupar a loud and clear big dummy.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
He even repeated it.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Oh that's an odd name. I haven't used that one yet.
Let me try to scam a stupar.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
You think that you think that that's what the sound was.
It wasn't the fax machine. It was pulling up who
if we sent these?
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Don't it sounded like an email on his he was
getting a text.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
So you think he was like looking through like he
was stalling. That's why he hung up.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
He's like, I have every name that I've sent this
to and there is not a Scott Stupar on this.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Call him back and say, I think we got disconnected?
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Oh you want me to?
Speaker 5 (25:53):
This is like the day when we searched to see
who was breached.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Oh, and we all were except you, even Hoy.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Was, except this breach hasn't happened yet. That was good.
Oh my god, Diane's.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Gonna get flooded with that.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Is that why he wanted me to email him? Because
he doesn't have record of sending it?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Does he does actual like letters?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Write Dane. You know he's not a lawyer. No, no, no,
he could be. He could have gone to law school.
And then he's.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Like, am I doing this for when I can scam people? Okay,
there's never been a lawyer. Yes, he's honest for anything,
and usually scammers are so honest. You took an oath, sir,
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