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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are a big Doctor Doctor Who fan I.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Am since the seventies. Are you a read with my
dad growing up?
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (00:07):
No kidding, no kidding, Good for you. And now let
me ask you this. I don't know when did they
When did they stop making Doctor Who's Well?
Speaker 5 (00:17):
They it was some I think it was like ninety
twenty four, ninety five somewhere around there. They laid it
off and then picked it up again in the early
two thousands.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
And is it still going on now?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
It is still going on now. They just released the
new episode of the new season.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Oh wow, no kidding.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
And now does it like when you said that it
went away for a while and then came back. Do
people separated into like the original and then like, oh,
now this is just the reboot of it.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
There are some.
Speaker 6 (00:54):
That do that.
Speaker 7 (00:55):
There's actually a Facebook page they call it the New
Who that there's an old version and people in that
group doesn't want anything to.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Do with the New Who.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Are you into both?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I'm into both.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Would you say you're in the majority or the minority.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I would say I'm in the majority.
Speaker 8 (01:18):
I think there are a lot of people who really like.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
The New Doctor Who. I think the ones who like
the older one or older people.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Sure, I mean that makes sense, That makes sense, although
there may be a little nostalgia or something to it.
One other, one other question I want to say, going
back to the original, is there is there I don't
know that it's a mystery, but is there is there
chatter maybe in your Facebook group of Old Who of
(01:46):
the missing episodes.
Speaker 7 (01:50):
No, people don't really talk about that too much.
Speaker 8 (01:52):
We know there.
Speaker 7 (01:53):
You know, are a lot of episodes, especially from the
first three years in the sixties, when they would to
have something like a breaking news and they switched to
it and you lose the episode, And there are a
lot of people who would like to find those, But
there's not a whole lot of talk about it on Facebook,
at least that I've seen.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
And if I correct me, if I'm wrong, there are
ninety seven lost episodes out there.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Wow, that I'm not sure of.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
If I had to sit down and they said, Elliott,
you can only use one sentence, tell me what Doctor
Who is about, I would not be able to answer
that question. I've never seen a minute of it. I
don't know anything about it. I know that whether it's
New Who or Old Who. I know that people who
like it.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Love it, Yes, you know it's funny. I think Doctor Who,
along with Superman, represent what's best.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
About being a human being, even though they're not humans.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I like that. I like that. All right, very good,
very good, Thank you sir, Thank you, my friend the.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
Deep thought for an early Monday morning.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, and I honestly do you know what Doctor Who
is about?
Speaker 6 (03:10):
I know that the Doctor so what he's referencing, the
Doctor is like a human humanoid if you will, right
part of the time lords and they travel in that
the artists yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
No, no, no no, to combat poes and to assist.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
Uh so then they go the series goes by the
number doctor they're on.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
So there have always changed out the doctors so like
they it was it was like James Bond has always
changed out Bonds. Doctor Who has always changed out Who's
But they embrace it, like do they know going in
this doctor is only going to do a season or
two seasons.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
I mean that's that's the setup, right.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
People did get upset when there was a female doctor.
I do remember those headlines.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Oops, God, did people honest question? Did people did people
get crazy? Was doctor Janeway captain Janeway the first Star
Trek woman.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I don't know the first cap captain female captain did people?
Speaker 4 (04:15):
I'm being honest and I don't know the Star Trek heads.
You don't have to call me, but like, did she
deal with that backlash?
Speaker 6 (04:22):
Never seen Star Trek.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
I'll ask Bennett and I'm waiting, but I still haven't
gotten anything that he keeps saying.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Oh, Kate listens to the show, loves it, wants to
come in.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
Yes, she was the first female captain to lead a series.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Thank you, Hi, Elliott, Elliot in the morning. Also the
first female captain to bed Bennett. I'm sorry, Yes, we
know who is this?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Hi?
Speaker 8 (04:48):
This is Jeremy Williams.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Hey Jeremy, what can I do for you? Are you
big a Doctor Who fan?
Speaker 8 (04:54):
Unreal Doctor Who fan? Yes? Indeed, I'm on the Older New.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Uh both Okay.
Speaker 8 (05:02):
I started off watching Tom Baker and then had that
little break like the last guy mentioned, and then uh
I picked it up watching with my current wife.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
So now was doctor Baker like? Was he the original one?
Speaker 8 (05:20):
He was about four or five. If you've seen people
walking around with huge long scarfs on with the kind
of a top hat he was. He was the coolest
one for me.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Okay, I don't know that I've ever seen anybody or
I paid attention. Maybe maybe that would maybe that would
be it. Oh my god, you.
Speaker 8 (05:39):
Keep a little pocket full of jelly babies with your
little uh British British candy and he just eat eat
out of his pocket on the show, in the show,
So forget this Elliott. I've proposed to my wife in
the Doctor Who Museum that was in Cardiff, Wales, so
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I've seen all of the original set pieces from the museum.
And on my wedding day, I father in law built
a dollic, which I'm sure you have no idea what
a dollic is, no, but if you look up dollck exterminate, basically,
it's a black robot that basically hates everything and wants
(06:23):
role be reverse. And you built us a replica and
we take it to all the comic cons and stuff
around the East Coast.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
And your father in law made that for you.
Speaker 8 (06:36):
Yes, I literally the one time I took a break
during the wedding to go to the bathroom, I came
out and there was a robot and I said, how
do you how do you rent a robot prop of
a dollic and he spent four years secretly in his
garage building this stalic forse Wow.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Is he a fan of the series or does he
just like his daughter a lot?
Speaker 8 (07:00):
It is how he told his daughter he loves her.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Wow. Wow.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah, my father in law got a Burkeandon Knox.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
That's amazing. That is amazing.
Speaker 8 (07:14):
I would love to see. Yeah, photos here shortly on
on Twitter or something.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Yeah, please do Diane at DC one O one dot com. Actually,
if anybody in the subject line that just wants to
put Diane here's my dollc Yeah, just send that along.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Hey, So, let me let me ask you this.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
The lost episodes, Yes, yes, yes, there are ninety seven
of them.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Is that true?
Speaker 8 (07:38):
I would believe it. I believe there was also a
studio fire at the point. Yes, at the DBC they
also have done uh animated versions of those episodes. So
maybe they find the audio or they find like clips
of it someplace in Russia that some guy recorded on
his VHS and so they've tried to integrate it back
(08:01):
in a little bit. But you know, it's kind of
a history has kind of lost it.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Now, let me ask you this as somebody who lives,
and I appreciate I have Number one, I can appreciate
your fandom. Number two, I'm very glad that you listened
and called are you hit to the story of the guy.
So there's this guy who is sick, right, he's got cancer,
he is. He has spent a fortune trying to recreate
(08:28):
using AI or have people.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Do it for him. Oh wow, sir, I didn't even
finish to.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Recreate the ninety seven lost episodes so that he can
see the complete series before he dies.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
And he is.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Spending sounds like you may have a boner there, sir.
He is spending hundreds. I think he's spent close to
two hundred thousand, two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 8 (08:56):
Oh my gosh. Hopefully somebody hears him and they can
help him out. He didn't have to pay out of
his bucket.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
But the BBC said they don't have them, like you said,
there's a studio fire that they don't have the full shows.
By the way, I was wrong. It's one hundred, it's
not two fifty. It's one fifty. It's still a crap time.
But he so when he kind of went public with
wanting to get AI people. And it goes back to
what the guy before you said, where there's little snippets
(09:28):
or there's little pieces of script that exist to try
to get people using AI to create the episodes. Based
on that, he said, I've been scammed, like I've lost
a lot of money from people that by the way,
he doesn't care.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
He just wants no.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
No.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
He's like, listen, I knew going in there would be
people that would tell me they were being helpful and
then they just want your money. Well, you know what,
screw them. He's like, you know what, screw them. I'm dying,
you know whatever. All he wants is to be able
to watch the entire complete series. Like in my head,
I was like, thank god every Seinfeld episode exists, but
they want.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
The He wants to be able to watch the entire series.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
But all of these so I guess, like in whatever
nerddom fan page you're on, there there's this debate about will.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
This count, will this? Will these be recognized?
Speaker 4 (10:18):
And they want the BBC if he gets them all done,
to recognize them as quote part of the series.
Speaker 8 (10:26):
I'd be on his side. I've seen some AI stuff
and you know, I wouldn't know it from real stuff.
So I think it's possible. I think he has a
good idea, and I think I think it could happen.
I may not happen right now with Ai, but ten
years from now.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
But isn't it pretty crazy? That's pretty crazy?
Speaker 6 (10:46):
What if his dollar comes and destroys this guy's collection?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
All right, send me a picture of your big old dollic?
All right?
Speaker 8 (10:57):
Okay, I love you guys so much.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I love you too. Thank you, sir, thank you.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
What a piece for the wedding?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Could you imagine that?
Speaker 6 (11:04):
Because I bet people have the phone booth tartist thing.
I bet that's been done before for various parties. But
to pull up did you see it? It was like
the height of a human being.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
No, it's enormous in some of those clips.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
I'll say this, if my if my son were to
marry his current girlfriend, I don't know enough about her
that I would build her anything other than a hoopah.
And they're not Jewish. He spent four years building that secretly. Yeah,
that's love, that's love.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
My mom complained that room service wasn't getting to her
room quick enough.
Speaker 8 (11:44):
Where am I going?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Line one? Hi Elliah the morning.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
You would love for you to know that bad venue choice?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Son?
Speaker 8 (11:55):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Who's this?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Hello?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Hello? Hi?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
This is Lisa from Washington, DC. I've been watching Doctor
Who since I was a little girl.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
So were you there? Can I?
Speaker 8 (12:09):
Ma'am?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
You sound beautiful? How young are you? If you don't
mind my asking.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I'm sixty two years young?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Are you really?
Speaker 8 (12:17):
God?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Bless you for listening to this trash?
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Hey, I belicity to your station since the Greaseman and
the Wolfman my god, wow yeah Wolfman Jack before they
moved out to La Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, yeah. Anyway, Hey, let me ask you this. Let
me ask you this.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
So you've been watching Doctor Who since you were a
little girl?
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Are you?
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Are you hit to the lost episode's issue?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Uh? Yes, there's something like of the very the very first,
the very first episodes starring William Hart now which was
the first Doctor in sixty two sixty three, they lost
like there was a fire and they lost like maybe
fifty fifty of those right, And like the other gentleman
(13:06):
was talking about some some of the animated pieces pieces
as well. So when whenever they started from the very beginning,
it's not really the beginning, it's like the middle, the
middle of William Hartner Heartnell as the doctor, right, yeah,
and a lot of people don't. A lot of people
(13:28):
don't get it, but they like it because it's it's
exciting and it's ventorous.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Now they will say the studio for its part, Oh
my god, timer just pulled up pictures of William Hartnell,
like there was no first Doctors.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
And there's an official movie that was made that's kind
of separate that was starring Peter Cushon.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Oh, Peter Kushner, that's Steve Kushner's brother. Anyway, it says
here that like like we were saying, it says, copies
of the law stories, not the episodes, but like the
stories about those episodes have turned up over the years
in private collections and have been found in foreign TV
studios where they had been shipped for broadcast. So like
(14:12):
they would say here, like I guess it was. It
was shown around the world, so the BBC would send
it to I don't know where it at aired Austrian BBC.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I think originally sent them the first the first time
to the United States. I think it was CBF, but
they threw them out.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
They were like, we're not they aired were done like
we're not keeping these old I don't know how they
were shipped back then.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
A lot of studios do that. They leave stuff on
the cutting floor and they just throw it out. They
don't keep it.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
And so the BBC is, to their credit, they are
excited about this guy possibly putting together these lost episodes. Yeah,
but I think that's clear. I mean, listen, if that's
your dying wish, what evs? No, No, I'm being serious, Like,
I can't imagine dying with exactly.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Money exactly.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I don't tell anybody how to spend their money. No,
keep your hands.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
On my pockets.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
The uh exactly.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
If someone's listening and they're intrigued by the storylines, we've
we've we have really discussed them, but we've touched on
what the series is about. Because there is the classic
era and then the revived era, and there's so many doctors.
How does somebody get into this show? What would be
your advice for for a newcomer?
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I think for a newcomer, the I think they should
look up the DBDs with the some of the more
recent ones. I don't know, they might think that some
of the older ones are corny, but maybe they should
start with tom Baker. But Tom Baker understood is the
(15:49):
third doctor.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
But like for example, and again I don't know, No, I.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Don't know he I know, I don't think he's four.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Oh I'm not trust me. I'm not even to correcting you.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
He is the fourth doctor.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
I was just going to say, like, for example, remember
we went to the James Bond exhibit at the Spy Museum, right,
I never watched Bond.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I wasn't a big Bond fan.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
But if somebody were to say, and I think we
talked about this, if you were going to tell somebody new,
which one would you start with? I don't remember people
going like, oh, you should totally start with Sean Connery,
because you would look at it and go.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Like that's too old and too that you may start.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I don't think so. I think it depends upon which
the son Connery you start with, you know, whether it's
Thunderball or Doctor No. Doctor No is good? Yeah, no kidding,
no kidding, Yes, yeah, yes, I do like those.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Did you know that.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Captain Janeway was the first female captain on Star Trek.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Actually the very first female captain dies Needy.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
It late well.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
In Enterprise, see when the Romulins attack in a Romulin attack,
She's killed at the the end of at the middle
of the attack, and uh spoilers, whoever is left is
taken hostage, is taken into slavery body the Romulins. I
hope I forget that woman's name. She she is the actual.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
First imy iss good.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
To talk about it because of that, you know, because
of that, because she she like dies almost immediately in
that episode. It's a time. It's one of the time
slip episodes.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Gotcha, gotcha? All right, very good? You are You may
be the smartest person I've ever talked to.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
No, it's because a group watching these things, you see,
and I still watch them, I you know, I watch
most of them, and you know, as much as I could.
But as as for the doctor, I just love the doctor.
Now what the doctor is. He is a Galla Fran.
He is a time lord. He is an alien. He
goes through time fixing fractures in time that were calls
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by whatever nutjob comes along, which is like the Master
is one of the nutjobs. The Ronnie is another nut job.
They are Gallafran as well, and the other nut jobs
are the Darlaks.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
You probably heard of them.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Can tank we heard from that originally trash cans because
they couldn't afford.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Yeah, no, that guy called that guy called maybe you
can hear him whose father in law made him a
dollec as a as a wedding guest.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Oh that was sweet.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Yeah, it really is really is. Now everybody send.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
And of course the little bit more expensive. Uh when
when they first come out the first villains you actually
you're the fiberman.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
The whoman cyberman. Don't yell? All right, very good, very good?
I love you to death. Hey, hold on one second.
I want to get you a shirt.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
And what what he but what he basically is is,
you see, he can regenerate, so when he he doesn't,
he doesn't die die.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I got you.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
This is not the same for him. I can regenerate
into any form he wants to, or the time words
can regenerate him as punishment.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Can I get you, ma'am? Can I get you? Can
I get you in Elliott in the morning T shirt?
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Well FanTac didn't do that.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Be delighted?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Perfect, all right, hold on one second, hold on one
second for me. I love her, I love her, incredible recall.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
I hope Diane feels dumb not knowing that about that
first episode of Enterprise.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
I could probably school her on Original Housewives.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Oh I bet you can't.