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March 12, 2025 • 16 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Lord, who welcome to the show. Well, no, welcome to
the show, Eric Telrose, Eric Tolrose, welcome to the show.
That that's you gotta admit that's dead on. That sounded
just like Paul.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Uh oh was that Paul Come? As George Harrison once
said in the movie help most a bit like Hagney anyway,
the little in joke for all the people by how
are you this morning? Vinnie? It's it's a pleasure to
be here.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
It's a pleasure to have you on. Eric tarros Who
my man, Charles Rosene? What did he How did he
put it to? I kind of took offense, although I
don't want to get into it with you, but he's like,
he knows more about the Beatles than me and you combined.
Rose in a knows this, He knows his stuff. He goes,
he goes. Do I mean, I'm a huge Beatles fan,

(00:49):
but I wouldn't want to get into a like a
trivia match. I'd probably lose handling. But I am a
huge fan.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Well, it's great to hear. I mean, actually, Charles is
being very very generous. I have a narrow life of
very expertise when it comes to the Beatles. Which is
I'm a consultant on basically all of the last movies
that they've done. You know, I had a huge role
in Eight Days a Week, the New Beatles sixty four,
the Martin Scorsese production. I worked on that for three years.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
So and the Get Back series, I helped out Peter
Jackson's project, though I worked on the first twenty minutes,
the archival part.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Those were tremendous. I just thought that really made you know,
one of my proudest accomplishments as a dad was passing on.
My two kids now twenty two and eighteen, are huge
Beatles fan fans. My daughter when she did a semester abroad,
she chose Liverpool, so we all flew out together. Yeah,

(01:50):
so we all flew out together and it was really
probably one of the happiest days of my life was
being in the cavern, you know, where they first played
and yeah, and Charles hooked me up with so much.
But we really enjoyed Get Back that Thanksgiving weekend that
it dropped. We're having Eric Tarro sound to talk about
a very special event that's coming to the Palace in

(02:12):
dan Berry this Sunday, March sixteenth and we'll get into
the nooks and crannies of that, and just what's it called?
Is it called sixty years of the Beatles in America.
One thing I wanted to say, the one thing I
wanted to just say to you before we got into it, though, Eric,
is It's interesting. I remember taking my kid They were

(02:34):
so little then, though, but we were very excited to
see Ron Howards, who I'm a huge fan of his
film Eight Days a Week. I found the Peter Jackson
project superior in a lot of ways. And I don't
know if that's just nitpicking, there was something lacking in
Ron Howard's Beatles movie, and I remember my kids kind

(02:56):
of felt the same way. I don't know if you do.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Too, I do. I'll tell you what happened with that.
I took the first phone call for Eight Days a
Week in two thousand and eight, and we released the
film in twenty and sixteen. The original producers were all fired.
I was the only person that survived from the original
group that were making that picture and what we were

(03:18):
going to do. The difference is this, the original producers
were going to make a film where the archives spoke,
no talking heads of you know, no current talking heads
only material that was from the period we were talking about.
And you'll notice in Ron Howard's I mean you'll notice
in Peter Jackson's Getting Back, there's no talking heads from
today reflecting back. It's all just the footage, and he

(03:42):
cut it together a certain way, and you're in the
moment and you're in the hypnosis of it, and I
think that that's what the difference is. You know, Ron
is a fantastic guy. What a great storyteller, Oh.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
A great filmmaker. That's why I was kind of surprised.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Well, it's really I think the thing is is what
what Ron wanted to know about was stuff that was
kind of more common for people who know the Beatles
or big Beatles fans. It's like, oh, well, I've seen
that piece of film, you know, multiple times. So anyway,
I think that that was part of it. But our

(04:19):
show is really inspired by what was left on the
cutting room floor. Now, like one of my favorite pieces
in the upcoming show, which we do call sixty Years
of the Beatles in America, but it's really their whole career.
We start really early and we go right up to
the end with different sections, and I was gonna say,
one of the pieces is something that was left out

(04:41):
of Eight Days a Week, which was Olivia Harrison had
requested that. She was said, you know, we want more
George in the film. Is there any way to put
a compilation of George singing Rollover Beethoven which was his
feature piece live and you know, but use it as

(05:05):
the original idea of the film was to have was
to have fans sourcing, so you know, fans home movies,
rare things like that. And so I did put together
all from the American Tours sixty four George doing roll
Over Beethoven live. I'll cut correctly together. It's a very
exciting piece. Well, the problem is we had to lock

(05:26):
down the film before before I could finish it because
not all the pieces came in in time. So you'll
see that Sunday, three pm at the Danbury at the
Palace Danbury. That piece is going to be part of
the show as well as so many other things. As
I say, you can't see this stuff anywhere else.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, and how are you able to do that? Again?
We're on with Eric Tarros. He's a renowned Beatles film archivist,
a historian, and it says right here you got this
rare footage. I mean, I want to say Paul McCartney's
notoriously you know on top of it, but that Michael

(06:08):
Jackson did pull a fast going on him. So I
don't know how great Paul is at it. But how
do you get the rights to this? And are you
able to share? I'm glad that you are, but how
are you able to.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Well a couple of things. There's a lot of this stuff,
especially like in Eight Days a Week. The Beatles don't
own that either. They have to license it out. That's
one of one of my functions is I set up
private deals with collectors of people who own the rights
to you know, it's a very slippery slope the right
thing because depending upon where things were films. I don't
want to get into the boring technical things, but America

(06:41):
has different rules in Europe and gets a bit of
a mess. But the Beatles did not document certain parts
of their career very well, and so it was left
up to fans and things to collect the films. You know,
back in the eighties, when you know, news stations were
digitizing things for the first time, throw out the original
sixteen millimeter news films. Well, in a lot of cases.

(07:04):
You know, people did a dumpster dive or they As
a matter of fact, one piece you're going to see
in the show if you come to the Palace Dandry
is the ten minute sizzle reel for a nineteen sixty
four series of The Beatles coming to America in sixty four,
which was just like get back in that it was
the archives speaking, no talking heads, just day to day

(07:27):
on the Beatles tour Summer Tour of nineteen sixty four,
and it was going to be a six hour series.
But at the last second, last second, Apple said, you
know what, it's going to interfere with the Martins CORSESI picture,
which I was also consulting on the one that just
came out Beatles sixty four, and it was going to
interfere with the schedule. So I'm kind of hoping that

(07:48):
we'll revive the TV series because Disney wanted to do it.
But I'll tell you what, if you come to the
at the Palace, it'll be the world premiere for the
public to see the sizzle reel that Disney went crazy over.
They were like, guys, do this how much money?

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:01):
So there's a lot of rare stuff and when I say,
another rare thing. You're asking where do the films come from? Well,
in some cases, like say the Beatles, I'm sure you've
seen the beautiful promo films for Strawberry Fields Forever and
Penny Lang. Well, the director shot, you know, forty five
minutes to get a three minute video. So a very

(08:23):
well heeled collector I know bought this is the extra
forty minutes on both videos. And wait, so you see
an editor. I mean, we just had the original thirty
five millimeter Negatives rescand at four K. It is out
of this world, really really exciting stuff.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah, you know something, I got some things that they
were such treats for me. And you're going to probably
respond with, dude, I've been listening to that my whole life.
But in spite of all the Danger was new to
me only a few years ago. It was actually like
kind of a poorly what was nowhere? Man? You know
this independent film that was made.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Oh yeah, in spite of all the Danger was one
of the earliest loved.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
I love it, man, And you know, if you look
it up, if you look up in Spite of All
the Danger, it says by the quarrymen, I mean it's
billed as by the Quarrymen, and I just felt like
I got a new Beatles song, and then a few
years later I would get a new Beatles song with
Now and then I don't know how you felt about that.
I'd loved it.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
I was glad to finally hear it. I don't know
if you heard this, by the way, using the same
technology they used to clean up Now and then they're
going back to redo like real Love, and you know
it's going to be so much too, you know, because
the vocals and some yeah, you know, and Free as
a Bird I think had some real problems. I know
they're remixing the vocal on that, so there's a lot

(09:48):
of I mean, I'm so surprised, fifty fifty five years
after the band ceased to exist, you come to our
shows because I do play a little circuit with This
is a brand new show, but I've done Beatles like
Paul McCartney's Birthday Show, John Lennon's Birthday Show, George Harrison's
Birthday Show, and all of the segments are kind of
in that scene. But one of those strange coincidences is

(10:12):
that we play when we do these shows, we play
vaudeville theaters and old vaudeville theaters also that we normally
do that as the Danbury was purpose built for that.
At the tail end of Vaudeville, it was two comedians
on stage introducing film clips. And that's exactly what we
do for the Beatles. We tell the stories of our interactions.

(10:34):
You know, Charles met everybody but Lenin multiple times. Yeah,
these incredible Beatles. Verry storyteller and you know, I've had
all my crazy adventures. The Great Beatles author Mark Lewis
and the world's authority that they say. He always tells me.
He goes, do you know You're the only human being
I know that can do.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
What you do?

Speaker 2 (10:54):
And I was like, well, what's that Mark? He goes,
you go to London, you just call Apple and they go, oh,
come on down. Yeah, yeah, he goes, I don't know
anyone who can do it.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
You know, it's funny you should say that, and it's
funny you should say that. And I don't want to
take take away from that in any way, but it
was wild to be in Liverpool with my kids about
a year and a half ago. As I mentioned at
the outset here, and I dropped Charles name at one place.
Uh it was we were going on a tour. We

(11:28):
were going to do a very touristy thing, but it
was a great one. I was excited to do it.
Where they show you where uh Ringo grew, you know,
Ringo's house. We went by all their house.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
And I think my kids jaws kind of dropped when
I I'm going to do it to you again. Eric.
When I said to the guy Charles Rosene, he said
mean he oh, chose Choles we love. Chose Rools we love.
And they were just stunned that this guy because they
met him several times at Beadle shows here, but they're like, wow,

(12:02):
they know him in Liverpool and it's like he's dedicated
as well. Yeah, you know to the love of the Beatles.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yes, I sat around. I don't know if the name
Bob Woller means anything to you, but Bob Wooller was
the guy that was compare with the announcer at the
Cavern Club in the sixties. And I remember sitting at
a bar with him in Liverpool in nineteen eighty three
and he says, oh, so here are from America. Do
you know Charles Wilson Mary.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
That was forty three years ago. They knew him. So, yeah,
he's well known and in Hamburg.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yeah yeah, I'm gonna imagine you'd have to be. Yeah.
So it's sixty years of the Beatles in America. It's
at the Palace in Danbury this Sunday. I got to
get to it. I think my daughter would love it too.
It features ninety minutes of rare films on the big screen.
You can't see anywhere else. This is Eric Tarrows.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
You cannot see anywhere else. They are not on YouTube,
and I have to keep them and I'm very strict
whatever would please note cell phones or anything, because I
I don't. I can take them around to theaters, but
I because they're owned by all these different entities, some
of which you know, wouldn't you know. I can't have anything.
I can't show segments on YouTube or TikTok or anything.

(13:14):
So I just tell people, look, trust me, when you
get there, your mind will be blown. I mean you'll
see and hear stuff. One of my favorite things that
I'm ninety percent sure I'm gonna put in the show
is the what I called it king Lear mix of
I Am the Walrus all different outtake video, but we
found I interviewed the guy that was in the mixing session,

(13:34):
and if you ever listen to I'm the Wallrus at
the end, you hear all this sort of mysterious mumbling
absolutely Shakespeare line of course. Well I found the original
that broadcast of that play going that same day live
on BBC Radio. Somebody taped it and so for the
first time ever you hear it mixed up as the
song is fading, and there's even some video to go

(13:55):
with it. Very mysterious. So it's it's the king Lear mix.
There's like all kinds of whacky stuff like that. And
as they as somebody once said, a splendid time is
guaranteed for all.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
I love it. I love it, and I hope we
passed the audition. It's a mattin A too. It's three pm,
which you know for a lot of people, myself included, Uh,
you know, Mattine's are great these days. A three pm
show is fantastic and it's sixty years of the Beatles. Yea.
I love stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
And like I say, I would hopeful people will want
to ask questions and stuff afterwards. There's so many stories
to tell. There's so many things that you know, people
have asked me before, they go, haven't we seen everything?
And I'm like, no, I'm still finding stuff. Do you know,
I find a new piece, Vinny, at least one new
piece per month on the Beatles.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
I'm sure. How do you feel? How do you feel
about the How do you feel about the upcoming four
films that Sam Mendez this man they're naming, you know,
the cast. I said, they're getting some great people to play,
you know, to play John Paul Ringo and George Too,
some great actors.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Well, this is a great storyteller and you know, a
great director. So I'm loathed to criticize.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Him, but.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
To be completely and utterly honest, those types of films
work when it's Freddie Mercury, because Freddie Mercury disappeared from
the US for the last twenty years of his life. Yeah,
and it was a way to get to know him
again for a lot of people who just knew the
music that he's an invisible character. I can't see how
this is possibly gonna work. But you know, I know
one of the last things Jeff Jones, who just recently departed,

(15:30):
he was the head of Apple for many years. Yeah,
he thought it was a great idea and he I
think the story I was told is Sam walked in
there with like a napkin for an envelope and said, hey,
I got this idea to do four movies and if
they can get it to work, great, But I've got.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Your yeah with you. I mean, I started to expressing
this interview, expressing my you know, being, my disappointment a
little bit with Ron Howard's movie. Although anything Beatles, I'm
never you know, I'm never truly disappointed because I'm just
such a huge fan. I'll be there Sunday. It's sixty
years of the Beatles. I can't wait to meet you

(16:06):
in person. Eric Toros, I'll do my Paul impression in
person for you. You can film that if you'd like
and post it.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Absolutely, I'm sure that will convince me totally.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
And I'm glad Charles connected us. Man, it was great
talking to you
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