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September 24, 2024 • 14 mins
Mary Alice calls in to give us an update on her mother, who has been in serious contact with a scammer.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Didn't write.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Mary Alice is on the phone. Good morning, Mary Alice,
good morning, Thanks for being on. We want to talk
about your mom. And let's preface this by saying, we're
not here to disparage your mom, and we're not here
to make fun of your mom. But you're concerned for
your mom, because why tell us, Mary Alice, what's up?

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Sure? So, about a year ago, it was back in
December or January, my mom. We realized she was being
very strange. She was leaving the house but she didn't
do often, and she was constantly like negative her account
or just a zero, and we eventually realized it was
because she was being stamped. She thought she was talking
to Joe Perry, the guitarist from Aerosmith.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Now I want to I just want to find out
a little more information. How old is your mama?

Speaker 4 (00:48):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (00:49):
So, she's sixty two.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Sixty two, okay, and she has her wits about her.
She's not no dementia anything like that.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
So we're not sure at this point based on everything
that's going on, but wondering if maybe it is the
case of that, because it's too bizarre at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
And so did she supposedly meet Joe Perry, the guitarist
from Aerosmith, they reached.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Out to her. She would follow band pages and I
think what they do is they go through, say Joe
Perry's page, they find my mom and then they add
her as Joe Perry Private page, and then they'll message
her and said, are you interested in VIP passes? And
then that's where they get you, because they'll tell you
you're part of a membership for six hundred dollars, but

(01:34):
it's always gift cards. It's and they never prove who they.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Actually are, Okay, so they never prove your mom never,
you know, like got a phone call from Joe pay
I mean, of course not, because Joe Perry is not
dating a random woman from Minnesota, and so it's gift cards.
So they say, hey, send gift cards. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah, So she actually went to great lengths, like we
were even calling our local CBS, Walgreens, please don't sell
them my mom, Please don't give her gift cards. She
would go there and say, oh, it's for my daughter's birthday.
She lives in textas and you know, the people, they
knew she was being scammed. But if she's not willing
to admit it, they can't prevent the sale, and.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
There's really there's really nothing that you can do because
you can't find these people. But you took action really quick.
Tell me how you got your mom to admit or
somehow believe that she was not dating the guitar player
from Aerosmith.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah, so it's really weird how it happened. Basically, where
we were living, she had like some kind of outage
with her service, and she had no way of texting
this guy, the scammer. So my sister texted the scammer
pretending to be my mom, and I texted my mom
off of a different app making I created a phone
number that look similar to his. Basically, I texted her

(02:47):
for less than a day and she believed it was me.
And then at the end of that day, I said,
I need to tell you the truth. I love you
so much that this has just been weighing on me
and I want to meet and be together and I'm
actually a scammer, and that she believed it. I sent
her pictures off of Google Earth of her house and
she thinks that she's been stalked by the scammer. Oh god,

(03:07):
she cut ties completely.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Okay, So she then dumped the scammer that she admitted
was not Joe Perry. Did it seem just weird af
to anybody that?

Speaker 5 (03:18):
Like?

Speaker 2 (03:18):
It never occurred to your mother, Like, for example, if
I don't know Cher all of a sudden approached me
and was like, I want to be your girlfriend, and
all I need is some gift cards, I'd be like,
share can do a whole lot better than me, you
know what I mean to But Mom never questioned that
she actually believed that Joe. Okay, so let's move on.
Mom is now being scanned by somebody pretending to be

(03:39):
who Teddy Swim? I said, I sent Jelly Roll a
little while ago, but it's Teddy Swim. Yeah, different tattooed man.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Now, if you look up Joe Perry and Teddy Swims,
they're two different types of people. So where my mom,
I'm like, who are you interested in? What type of
man are you going for? Because one is like an
older rock star and the other is like a new
up and coming singer, a songwriter who's my age. Yeah.
So I think that's where the delusion comes in a

(04:08):
little bit, where she a part of her seems like
she just wants to believe this Israel. There's been no proof.
I mean, he has a girlfriend, Rach apparently when you
look online. But the scammers told her that that's just
nothing more than a contract that they do for publicity.
It's not they're not really in a relationship. Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
So the scammers covered all the angle. So if you
just turn your radio on, we're talking to Mary Alice.
Mary Alice's mother has been scanned by somebody who thought
they convinced her mother, who is sixty two, that they
were Joe Perry, the guitar player from Aerosmith. And then
how much money did they get from your mom? Do
you have any idea?

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Oh? Yes, so the first gammer they got about eighteen
grand Oh my god, are we inaccepted? Yeah. Before we
had accepted, she was about to send another seventeen wow. Wow,
Now I need to reference she does have an inheritance
from my grandma. So that was another big reason we
were trying to stop this because a lot of money
that she's just throwing out the window.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah. So right now, so she's in the thick of
thinking she dates Teddy Swims. What have you tried to
say or what have you tried to do? And nothing's worked.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
We have tried to text her pretending to be Teddy Swims.
She thinks they're going to meet. So she lives in
Jersey and he has a concert in Atlantic City on
the twenty eighth. She thinks she's going to Atlantic City
to meet him and then go off with him to
meet his mom.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Oh god.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
And now as it comes closer to the event, he's
telling her, oh, they might cancel it because they don't
have enough VIP tickets being sold, which again is their
way of asking her for money. Give me money and
we'll meet.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
There was a friend of mine and I can't remember
the star, but he was David Spader, James Spader, James Spader.
That's a celebrity, right, I think James Spader. Yeah, was
a friend of mine. He's an actor. Yeah, he's an actor.
So he convinced the scammer convinced this woman that they
were going to go to the Academy Awards together. They
were going to buy a house. He was going to

(06:05):
pay for most of the house, but he needed like
one hundred thousand dollars from her. My god, and so
she sent him I don't know how much money, and
it's like, yeah, I'm going to go to the Academy
Awards with James Spader, and she really believed that, and
of course everything was a lie, and he like, would
you know, cancel it the last minute. So it's the
same kind of thing. So Mom thinks that she's going
to go to this concert with Teddy Swims and then

(06:27):
it's been canceled, et cetera, etcetera.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Send more money, and she doesn't believe anything online if
you show her like you clearly having these concerts. He's
having the one in Atlantic City. No, I'm talking to
him and he's telling me it's going to get canceled.
Now I forgot to mention she is also married, So as.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Mom is, Mom is married.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Oh, yes, she's married. They're now getting divorced. They just
signed divorce papers because she thinks she's going to run
off with Teddy's Swims.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Now, oh my god. I don't know. Yeah, anybody, and
you know my mom My mom had all time, but
I don't know that she ever was to the point
where she would have ever been believing of something like that.
I just wonder what it is about. And I don't
know if it's mostly women or mostly men or what
that are. So easily persuaded by something so outland I

(07:17):
make any wonder. There's a bunch. There's a bunch of
advice that people have called in with and texted with,
and we're gonna get to some of those in a second.
But let me see if I got somebody on the
phone here, Megan, Megan, did you have some advice for
Mary Alice? What did go ahead and turn your radio
down to the background because there's a delay. What did

(07:39):
you want to say to Mary Alice?

Speaker 3 (07:41):
I think you should call catfish?

Speaker 5 (07:44):
Catfish?

Speaker 2 (07:47):
What are they like? You just look up the phone numbers, phone.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Number, send the email in and they'll tell them how
much money she got scamp and was.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Going to get scam for. And I almost guarantee you
they'll be.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Like, oh we got to help this woman.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, well that's so awful that just like you just
can't convince somebody is like if Bailey said, yes, my
boyfriend swears that he's a space alien, but I like Bailey,
how can you believe something like that's okay? Well, text messages,
there's a bunch Sadly, this is one a kat WB

(08:24):
one says, I speak with so many people to fall
victim to scams, and more often than not, even if
they file claims at their bank, the bank won't do
anything because they willingly engaged in this scam and gave
them money. Always question anybody asking you for money, even
if they say they're from the bank. You gotta be
so wary of scams because some look so authentic. It'll

(08:47):
be like, oh, Wells Fargo says that your your your
counters over drawn, right, Yeah, click here to verify. Don't
click there, don't click.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
And see where it came from, because it's always like
Wells Fargo at h I L L M N H
seven seven at dot com. Uh.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Text messages, this is happening to my grandma. Another one
says my aunt did the same thing. Divorced your husband
for a country singer. This one says it's their own
fault if they're that stupid. No, but they're not pro stupid.
But I don't think they're stupid. I think they're vulnerable.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
Yah.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
I think it's.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Remarkable that these scammers find people that just happen to
have an inheritance. Like I wish somebody would DM met
on a scamming. I'd be like bitch on broke. Yeah,
Like I got none me.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
I want to know.

Speaker 5 (09:32):
I wonder if it's the same person or the same
like scam group of people that did the Joe Perry one,
because they're like, oh, we already know that this woman
will give us money, So now that this Joe Perry
one has fallen through, let's have somebody new. But they
all know each other because like gosh, getting scammed twice yep,
like holy crap. There has to be some kind of

(09:52):
network where they're like, this one's the sucker.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Uh, we have somebody on the phone who wants to
stay anonymous. And you said, the same page as dming
your mo there is.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
That, right, So yeah, I mean it's a petty swim
private page and you know she is in the same
age group and she's kind of wild on space. But like,
you know, that's all capsing and I'm wondering if they're
targeting a certain age you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, well, I think obviously, So I think that you know,
they probably send out it's kind of like spam emails.
If they send out a thousand and they get one hit,
then it was a payoff, yeah, worth it. So if
they try to scam a thousand different older women and
they get one or two that are sending him gift cards,
then it was totally worth it. Let me talk to.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
You, Mama's I met said he swims a couple of
weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
He is very content, in loyal in his relationship. I'll
let him know whatever what happened is, because the scammer
will say, that's not a real relationship, that's just one
that they have contractually for public appearances. Yeah, so you
can't even talk people out of that. What do you
what do you think?

Speaker 5 (11:00):
So?

Speaker 2 (11:00):
I want to help you, Mary Alice, So you want
advice from people who might know what to do? Is
that what you're looking for?

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Honestly anything. We are so desperate. We even tried doing
the same thing we did with Joe Perry. That's her
out of the scam. And now she's questioning, like, what
did I tell you? What mail polish am I gonna
wear next time I see you? But she's starting to
like investigate who's texting her?

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Split gosh.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
I mean a lot of people are saying, like, check
the Minnesota Attorney General's page. They have a lot of
information about scams, so that maybe if she sees it
on the website and realizes how similar it is to
her situation, she'll believe it.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
There's a couple of people on our Instagram at Facebook
Live saying that they or their moms have also been contacted.
Somebody said, I've been contacted by somebody pretending to be
Hugh Jackman wanting money.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
This is more common than not. Mom would fall for it.
Do you think Mama rond It would fall for it?
And it was a huge Jackman.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
Now not in real life, but like if it was
Hugh Jackman, she'd.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Be like, she wish you well, for sure, there are
here's a text message, try to give you a little
bit of help. We actually contacted the FBI with my
aunt because she wouldn't listen to family. We had the
guy's number and they got back to us saying the
number was linked to trafficking. Wow, well and I think
that's true. But what can they do you really, it's

(12:17):
just got to be so frustrating because you love your
mom and she's losing money and she is willfully participating
in this one. Here's when my dad is fifty five
and he did this two years ago. You could not
convince him the person was a scammer. The person told
my dad. They had millions of dollars in a trucking
company and he would get help to pay for legal assistance.

(12:39):
Just crazy. My dad had no money and screwed over
what my mom his wife out of sixty five hundred dollars.
And once they get all the money out of you
that they can, they're gone.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
Some sadany texted saying once I've confirmed a scammer is
messaging me. I respond with, thank you for participating long enough.
Your IP address has been provided to the police, which
is snakey snaky wow.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Hey, you know what, I think that maybe there's a
couple of things I think go tow the Attorney General's page.
But it sucks that. You know, as our parents get older,
we become their babysitters, We become their their caregivers, and
you know we love them. But this should never happen.
Scammers are the worst watch out for everything. Any email

(13:24):
that says, oh, this is UPS and we're trying to
deliver a package, but we need to confirm your retreat. No,
they don't, they don't know, they don't. I always figure
if Wells Fargo really does need to get a hold
of me, they'll figure out a way they can send
me fifteen emails they're.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
Going to figure out send a guy to come to
your house right find you.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
And I still wouldn't believe. Yeah, hey, Mary Alice, thank
you for being on and good luck and give us
an update if you think about it.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Okay, Oh absolutely I will. Thank you guys, thank.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
You, yeah, thank you. If you got any more advice
for then let us know. It is case ewsb
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