The Golden Bachelor Meets Cosmetic Surgery

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Episode Transcript

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The following is a paid podcast.iHeartRadio's hosting of this podcast constitutes neither an
endorsement of the products offered or theideas expressed. Well Doctor Arthur Perry,
he's one of the top plastic surgeons. He's got offices in Manhattan, New
Jersey. You know what, He'sbeen doing the show here on w R
for years and years and years.Very popular show and a great plastic surgeon.

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Everybody has questions on this subject,so he's the guy to ask.
Doctor Arthur Perry, and the publicwants to know that public doesn't get a
damn. I went to his officeand I said, I said, look
at my face, and he goes, yeah, look at your face.
We're going to do with your fan. What can you do with his face?
I go like that, I SAwhat I got. I go and
look at this. I'm getting old. I said, I want to maybe
he could fix it up a littlebit. Doctor Oz, are you there,

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I'm here Ark, and I wantto get a plauged you. Having
worked with you on a book andnumerous other activity, you want to talk
to Arthur Perry, the best inplastic surgery, workable knowledge, but also
your grace at delivering content, whichis why it's been a blessing to have
you on my show so many times. When I was a resident at the
University of Chicago, we had ame you smart as I really brilliant,
gifted position. I want to payyou the big the highest truth I can

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give to a surgeon, which iswhen people come to you, they don't
come for an operation, they comefor the opinion. And that's why I
trust you with my friends and relatives. I didn't realize we were going to
get the Michael Jordan of Plastic Surgeonnine O two and zero. Bows to
this guy, and welcome. Thisis doctor Arthur Perry. This is what's
your wrinkle right here on woar andI am broadcasting live from the wr iHeart

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Studios in Manhattan today and happy tosee my sidekick in real life, Noah
Fleischmann for how many year eighteen comingon the nineteenth year now, and yeah,
thank you for having me. I'ma board certified plastic surgeon, host
of this show for a very longtime, and you may be listening for
the very first time. I don'tknow what you've been listening to because there's

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nothing on except this. But whatis this all about. I'm a board
certified plastic surgeon. This is ashow about your wrinkles. This is a
show about your fat, your smallbreast, your big breast, your droopy
breasts, maybe your tuber and bellyafter pregnancy. That's what this show is
all about. This is a showabout aging, and not the metabolic aspects

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of aging, but but really whatyou look like as you age. Because
I've devoted my life to fixing thesethings and that's what I do day in
and day out. I'm a Boardcertified plastic surgeon trained at Harvard, Cornell,
and the University of Chicago, andi am on the faculty of Columbia
as an adjunct associate professor and alsoRutgers as a clinical associate professor. And

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I'm here for you every Saturday nightfor a long time. Now, give
me a call eight hundred three twoone zero seven ten. That's the phone
number here at wor eight hundred threetwo one zero seven ten tonight. Because
it is getting cold. How aboutthat last night? Right, it was
cold, it was rainy, thewind was blowing, it was absolutely terrible

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and your skin was punished last night. If you were out and if you
came in you put the heat upand the humidity went way down in your
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we call it a facial moisturizer,you know where. I use it on
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But I'm trying this year. I'mreally trying to stay ahead of it,
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front. Your shins get chapped thistime of year. Well, that's what
we're giving away. So eight hundredthree two one zero seven ten is a
phone number here at wo R.All right, how many of you watched
The Golden Bachelor. I bet youa lot a lot of you. We
are going to talk about the phenomenonand not so much about the show,

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but about about older people. Andit gets the younger every year, right,
people over the age of fifty datingand how I, as a plastic
surgeon, get involved. We're goingto talk about that show. That over
ten million, close to eleven millionpeople watched The Golden Bachelor this week,
most of them live and many ofthem as it streams over the next week.

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That's the projection of eleven million people. That's a lot, and that
is a spectacular showing for particularly aseventy two year old man. You know,
all right, if those of youwho haven't watched it, if you're
in a cave, you don't knowwhat we're talking about. The Golden Bachelor
is a show on ABC and itfeatured a seventy two year old guy choosing

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from twenty two women who he isgoing to marry. So, all right,
we're going to get into that.We're going to talk about what he
had to choose from and how thesewomen prepared for their Golden Bats appearance.
We're also going to talk about ozempicface. What is ozempic face. We
are going to talk about that tonighton the show. We're going to talk

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about anything that you want to talkabout as long as it has to do
with cosmetic surgery. Eight hundred threetwo one zero seven to ten is the
phone number here at WOR and justa little announcement. So yes, ten
twenty one Park Avenue. We havean opening date a week from Thursday,
apparently a week from third day.It's being painted. Now. We are

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so close. I'm so happy.The sign is up. That's the new
office and it'll be my main office. Yes, I'm still in New Jersey,
but we're moving up from seven toeighty five Park Avenue to ten twenty
one Park Avenue, and that's whereI'll be seeing my patients doing botox and
fillers and small procedures like mole excisionand things like that, biapcas and laser

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procedures. I've got all my lasers, the carbon dioxide laser for wrinkles,
and the YAG laser for red marks, and the laser hair removal and Altherra
and all those machines are making theirmarching up Park Avenue and going to the
ten twenty one Park Avenue office,so you can start seeing me there.
We'll be there a couple of daysa week, and in New Jersey a

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couple of days a week. Andyes, we are still still waiting,
still waiting for the Granite Street SurgicalCenter to open, it is. If
any of you know anyone in theDepartment of Buildings, maybe you can help
us out because we're trying to getour certificate of occupancy. All right,
we have a special. I wantto say that right off the bat,

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going on Amazon. We had agreat season. Thank you, by the
way, thank you for the biggestBlack Friday Thanksgiving season I've had for my
skincare company so far. It wasa banner year. And I want to
thank you my listeners and the loyalcustomers for the skincare program. And we

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have an another special. There's atwenty percent I'm not really supposed to say
these things in advance, but that'sokay. On Amazon only, there's a
twenty percent off soft Time special thisweek. You have to use the code.
And what is the code? Ohmy goodness, I'll find it out
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It's six' ten And yeah,you know I'm live now and you can
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go on Amazon stock up for thesoft time. All right, So the
Golden Bachelor, it is a phenomenon. It is a I don't know if

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you like it. You know,a lot of people have had all sorts
of things to say about the GoldenBachelor. So it's a seventy two year
old guy with hearing aids, goodlooking guy. We won't go into his
background or anything like that. Buthe gets to choose from twenty two women
ages sixty and over. I thinkthe youngest is about sixty, and he

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interviews them in many ways, andsome you might approve of and some you
might not. Because he actually sleptwith a couple of them. Noah said,
oh my god. Really well,you know, although you don't know
that for sure, Noah, becauseyou know, the behind closed doors and
the cameras didn't go into the fantasysuite. Right. But see, I

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could not pay attention to anything thatthe women were saying on this show,
not one word, because I staredat their cosmetic surgery the entire show,
you know, and there was badfiller and bad facelifts and some good facelifts.
And that's all I look at asa plastic surgeon. I don't know
what you look at. You know, you probably listen to what they have

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to say, but you know,I just stare at it. What can
I tell you? And I andparticularly one woman, and I'll be gentle
and I won't say which woman.You know, if you watch ducklips,
d am I saying duclips? It'sunbelievable the the filler in some of these
women. And you know, Ilook as a plastic surgeon, and okay,

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what can I say? So Iget so many women who come to
my office. In fact, ifyou really look at the the demographic details
of my practice, I suppose thesingle biggest group of women and are single
women, single divorces, and Ihave so many in my practice. And

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it is truly a phenomenon where youknow, not the best thing. I'm
not making any judgments, no oneshould. But the fact of life is
so many women come to me andask me to make them and help them
look better because they want to date. They want to hopefully date someone and
maybe live with someone, maybe marriagesomeone who knows. But you know,

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I looked into the the demographic detailsover age seventy five, twenty five percent
of people are single. Interesting,over sixty eighteen percent are single, and
over at age thirty there's nine percentthat are single. So you know,
the numbers, you know, certainlyincrease as you get older. That's that's

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understandable. There are more single womenthan single men, and that's simply because
men do not live as long aswomen. So you know, a lot
of women say it's getting harder andharder to date, it's an uneven playing
field with more women, much more, many more women over the age of

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fifty than over the age of sixty, so rather than men over the age
of fifty. So, whether it'sright, wrong, whatever it is,
that's the way it is. Itturns out if we really look at some
of these numbers, twenty one percentof men sixty five and older are single.

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Women, let's see, are mostlikely to be single later in life,
and half of women ages sixty fiveand older are single, so actually
forty nine percent. Interesting, Sothat's one of the reasons why women come
to me and they sit down andsay, you know, what can I

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do? So when we come backfrom our break, we're going to talk
about the things that I can dofor you if you're over fifty, if
you're over sixty, and a lotof women want surgery, a lot of
women don't want surgery. We'll talkabout the different options so that you can
be ready for your stint on TheGolden Bachelor when it airs again next year.

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I'm gonna tell you a funny storyalso in just a minute. I'm
Board certified Plastic surgeon, doctor ArthurPerry, host of What's Your Wrinkle eight
hundred three two one zero seven teneight hundred three to one zero seven ten.
Will be back after these words.Did you know that your skincare may

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You're listening to What's Your Wrinkle withDoctor Arthur Perry. What's Your Wrinkle?
And what is Your Wrinkle? Onboard certified Plastic church and doctor Arthur
Perry, host of What's Your Wrinkle. So one in five single adults who
are not looking for a relationship saythat they're not because they're too busy,
or they haven't had luck dating,or they have had they feel no one

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will be interested in them. Youknow what can I say? That's those
are the statistics. They actually studythese things. The Pew Foundation actually studied
this. Interesting. Now, ofcourse, some people over the age of
sixty say, well, they're nothealthy enough to have a relationship, something
like eleven percent. And some peoplethink they're dating days are behind them,

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but in the back of their minds, a lot of people don't want to
be bothered. They don't want tohave to go through the rigmar role.
But so many people do. Theydo because they're interested in an enduring relationship,
a relationship with another person, andthe stability of that kind of relationship.
So not everyone, but a lotof people. Interestingly, someone actually

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put my name in for the GoldenBachelor for next year. Yeah, okay,
yeah, I don't know if Iwant to do that, but anyway,
it was I think it was doneas a joke, but I'm not
sure, but anyway, all right, So when women come to me and
most of my practice, I havecertainly a lot of men in my practice,

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but I have mostly women in mypractice, probably ninety five percent.
I did do a blephoplasty and awomen on a man this week. That's
a eyelid lift. We'll talk aboutthat later in the show. But when
women come to see me, theysay, you know what, I'd like
to freshen up my appearance. Alot of women use that kind of terminology,
and and my first question is,well, okay, there's a lot

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of things that we can do.There are many, many choices in plastic
surgery now. When I was aresident in plastic surgery at the University of
Chicago in the nineteen eighties, wehad very limited things that we could offer
women. Let's say, a fiftyyear old woman. What was the option
in nineteen eighty seven when I finishedmy residency, Well, we had facelifts,

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and we had eyelid lifts, andwe had browlifts that were pretty aggressive,
and we had the deep chemical peeland that's about it. We used
collagen, but not much of itbecause collagen wasn't a great filler. It's
not even available anymore. But thosewere the options in those days. But
we have had a revolution in plasticsurgery over the last thirty something years with

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many non invasive techniques lasers and differentfillers, and botox of course, and
so many different things, so thatthere are many many options now. So
the first question is do you wantto undergo surgery or do you want to
have a non invasive type procedure?And I always laugh at the thought of

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a non invasive procedure. If someonecomes at you with a needle five hundred
times, is that really considered noninvasive. But you know, when we
classify invasive surgical procedures versus non invasiveprocedures, really what we're talking about are
procedures where we make an incision andlift the skin up. Those are considered
surgical procedures. And the things theprocedures where we use needles, and you

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know, even minor surgical procedures wherewe go underneath the skin just a little
bit to sometimes lift folds, orwhen we laser, when we use threads
to lift the tissue, those areconsidered non invasive procedures. So a lot
of women know exactly what they wantbecause of the Internet, because of influencers

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and the like. They know that, well, they want this procedure or
another procedure. But most women reallyleave it up to me. But most
do say, well, you know, non evasive, or some say no,
I don't want to mess around withnon evasive things that have to keep
coming back every year. Let's doa surgical procedure. So I always find

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it very interesting when when women havethat specific thing in mind. Now,
one thing that that strikes me alsois a lot of people forget about the
imperfections on their face. They concentrateon wrinkles and sagging skin and things like

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that. But the first thing thatI look at and the first thing that
anyone looks at when they see anew person. So let's say you're on
the dating apps. Who does that? So many people do that? Right?
Well, you know a lot ofpeople use filters and they alter their
images on the h and they lieabout their age also on those dating apps.

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So but but they might they mightblur out mold and imperfections and you
look wonderful, and then you goon that data and wait a minute,
are you? Are you the personin that picture? You know, I
believe in honesty, and you know, you want to put pictures that are
current, and you want to putpictures that are not altered on those dating

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apps so that there's no shock whenyou're on that first day. But with
the honesty, you know, it'sa fair thing to kind of come to
the plastic surgeon beforehand. And somany people do. And they have told
me, you know, I wantmy picture to look good when I do
go on the dating apps. Youknow, my daughter wants me to go
on the dating apps. My sonsays it's time. My wife, or

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rather my husband died, you know, five years ago, and it's time
for me to get on those thoseapps. So what can we do,
doctor Perry? And a lot ofpeople don't even think of the moles and
the saborec keratoses and the freckles,which are age spots, and you know,
they're freckles when you're a kid,their age spots when you're an adult.
So those are the things that Ithink are the first line that you

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should look at and consider getting ridof. So, you know, I
don't think there's that a mole isan attractive feature. I don't you know.
Marilyn Monroe used to pencil in themale on her left nasalabil fold and
I have a series of pictures thatI was going to put in my book,
and I got edited out by thefolks at Yale. They didn't like
that. But I had something likesix different pictures of Marilyn Monroe and lo

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and behold, the mole that shepenciled in was in a slightly different location
in each of the pictures. Soeither the mole was alive and was moving
around on her face, or shedid pencil it in. But I guess
she considered that to be an attractivefeature. I don't consider a mole to
be an attractive feature, and itis the focus of the face, and

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it causes what the psychologists like tocall cognitive dissonance, which is a it's
a psychological term when you look atsomeone and you see something off. What
is off? And a big moleon the cheek or in the nasal abil
folder on the lips, it's nota great feature. And it's so easy
for the plastic surgeon to remove that. I can take a mile off or

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fix a bad scar on the facein a matter of minutes, really,
you know, certainly under an hour, depending on what exactly it is,
how big it is, and whereit is. And usually as a plastic
surgeon, I can hide the scar. And yes, there's always going to
be a scar. When we removesomething, we replace it with a scar.

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So a lot of people think,well, we're going to then erase
a male. No, no,we don't do that. What we do
is remove the mall. I tryand place the resulting scar in a proper
orientation. So what that means isif it's around your nasal abial fold,
we want to put it in yournasal abial fold. If it's around a

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wrinkle. We want to put itin a wrinkle. Not that you want
more wrinkles, but a wrinkle issomething that doesn't really catch your eye as
something wrong, just a normal partof growing older, and probably better to
have some extra wrinkles than to havea big mole in the face or have
a scar going in a bad direction. So as a plastic surgeon, I'm

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going to orient the scar in theproper direction, and I'm going to lift
the skin up, take the tensionoff of the skin so that I can
close it and not get a widescar. And I use a couple layers
of stitches, one underneath and thena fine layer on the surface, or
even glue on the surface so thatwe don't get cross marks, you know.

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Amateurs so the bad word to use. But a non plastic surgeon,
someone who maybe is of a differentspecialty, who takes off a mole.
I've seen some really bad things onthe face where there's cross marks or the
scar is in the wrong direction andwhen someone smiles, it corrugates the skin

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instead of going going along with thedirection of these skin. There's a lot
of ways to do it, andplastic surgeons board certified plastic surgons are going
to do it the right way becausethat's what we do in our residency.
We learn all the nuances of howto do this. So we want to
take off the mole, take offthe scar. If you have a chicken
pox scar or something like that,or an old acne scar, different ways

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to handle that. If it's adepressed scar, sometimes we'll fill those scars
with the wrinkle filler, and sometimeswe'll actually excize those scars. So if
you have a really deep scar,or a chicken pox scar or something that
can't be properly filled, then we'llexcize that. So that's the first step
we get you on a good skincare program. That's one Actually we want

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to get rid of the toxins inyour skin. We want to get rid
of the things that are irritating yourskin, causing some redness, some swelling,
some oiliness, visible pores. Andthat's called the good skincare program.
And of course I have a vestedinterest in my own. I created it
for exactly this reason to try andhave people have as healthy skin as possible,

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because the foundation for looking good isstarting with healthy skin. So we
wanted to do that. Then wewant to remove the imperfections, the moles
and things of that nature. That'snumber one. That's when we start looking
at other things. And if it'sfine wrinkles, and so many women have
fine wrinkles. Of course, ifyou're over fifty, you're going to have

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wrinkles. In fact, if you'reover forty, you're going to have wrinkles.
I saw a woman this week who'sthirty four years old, who has
a lot of wrinkles around her eyesalready, and starting at those little wrinkles,
those little tiny wrinkles like spokes ofa wheel around her lips. And
so yeah, even at thirty fouryears old, it was botox, and
it was a little bit of filler. So that's the start. We do

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filler, We do botox, andwe want to get rid of those wrinkles
or lesson. I guess you knowwhen I use the term get rid of,
that's actually a bad term for aplastic surgeon to use. We don't
want to use the term. Wedon't want to use the term get rid
of, and we want to usethe term lesson and make better, and
that's a more honest approach, allright. I'm board certified plastic Church and

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doctor Arthur Perry, host of What'sYour Wrinkle? I think we have a
call from someone that this broadcast knowsvery well. Susan. Are you there?
I am, How are you?Doctor Perry? Very good? Oh
my goodness, my ex co hostis calling in. She's too busy to
co host the show because she's gotthat award winning book, right, Susan,

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I'm sorry, yes, promoting thebook has just taken up so much
time that I can't meet you asa studio. Oh my goodness. This
is Susan Warner, the author ofNever Say Never, Say Never, Never
Say Always, which is now aNew York Times bestseller, and I think
and it was nominated for a PulitzerPrize. Oh yeah, there it is,

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Susan. How have you been?I have a question? Okay,
sure, that's right. Now thatyou're not sitting next to me doing the
show, you've got to ask thosequestions on the radio, now, good,
go ahead, right right, Sowhen the tables are turned and you're
going to try out to the GoldenBachelor or maybe be a candidate for the
New Bachelorette that I'm sure will comeout next season as well. Oh,

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I wouldn't do that. But goahead, Oh you wouldn't. No,
No, I'm all those women jumpingup and down, you know, to
get a rose. I don't reallycare if I have a rose. Yeah,
you'd have to jump up and downto get a rose. I won't
do that. Okay, oh okay. Well, when the men are going
to be the candidates, do youthink that everyone will societally be commenting on

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their wrinkles and the wattles in theirneck and hearing aids behind their ears and
their lifts or do you think thisis confined just to women? Do you
really think there's a double standard,Susan, I think I'm implying that,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well you know there is, all
right. So think of Harrison Ford, all right, wrinkles all over his
face and that oblique scar on hischin in that I could fix and make

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better in thirty minutes. But Idon't think he wants to fix. He
doesn't want it fixed. Why doesn'the want it fixed? Harrison's in character.
But I don't think net models andage marks and things like that on
men are attractive. So I thinkthat there should be a campaign that men

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should get cleaned up and youthanized.Did you say youthanized made more youthful.
Oh, I'm sorry, I thoughtyou wanted to euthanize them. No,
youthful, I don't know. Wellthat's not a real more useful. Oh
yes, Well, you know whatsome men do and some men just don't

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care, because look, there arevery few men that want their noses operated
on. And you know, therereally is a double standard. It's it's
both in society. It's what society'sexpectations are, and it's it's individuals.
Also. Uh, there's a reasonwhy ninety ton of cosmetic surgical procedures are

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done in women. You know,men just don't care enough. They don't
care. But it's so interesting becausethe industry of men's care and you know,
men's hair and men's skin product isjust flying. And I've seen so
many men with those baskets, youknow, puffs under their eyes. Are
you talking about me? No?Oh, thank you god. Okay,

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that would be silly that would benefitfrom having surgery. And yet it's very
rare that she would hear someone onthe radio or in social media encouraging that.
And yet with a woman, thefirst thing they say is she looks
good or not a great outfit,or she really had too much filler?
Isn't that so interesting? Well,it is interesting and it is true.

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But you know, it's a societalnorm that men are happy with their wrinkles
and women are not. I thinkthey're happy. I think they're just not
as brave as women. Oh,you've commented how you know certain procedures are
uncomfortable or you even study in youropening that is non invasive four hundred shops.

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Do you know many men that cando that? No? No,
I do very little filler, Andthe only filler I do in men are
the nasal abial folds that are deepin the marionette lines and maybe a little
bit between the jowl and the chin. But men do not want and men
don't have as many wrinkles, Ihave to say, around their lips as

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women get. You know, theskin does aims differently. And their eyes
in their necks or chelcale, noquestion about that, and eyes definitely Look
at Andy Andy Cuomo, you know, our our ex governor and his father,
right, Am I allowed to saythat on the air? Noah,
yes, noahs saying okay, we'regoing to we're gonna censor doctor party.
No, No, seriously, lotsof men do have the bags underneath their

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eyes, and and some care andsome don't care, you know. And
I would venture to say on thenext program, because I believe the next
Golden Bachelor is going to be aGolden bachelorette. Apparently that's the word from
Hollywood. They're going to have awoman choosing from you know, twenty something

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men, and I'll bet a fairnumber of those men will get some cosmetic
surgery beforehand in order to look asgood as possible. I think that will
happen, and you're right, butyou see, one of the problems,
Susan with men having cosmetic surgery isthat men don't wear makeup as a rule.
They don't want to wear makeup.They don't like wearing makeup. And

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that is a problem because when Ido cosmetic surgery in women, I talk
about the recovery and how we canget you out as quickly as possible,
and that is absolutely based on thefact that they're going to be wearing makeup
at two weeks to hide any residualbruising and scarring for months, because with

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a facelift, you're going to seethe scar as no matter what, there's
going to be a scar that's visiblefor a few months, and you know,
hopefully not after that, but sometimesafter that. And women are very
good at putting makeup on, andthey also have longer hair that can be
used to cover scars, right,Susan. So that's just a gender difference

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that makes it easier for women toundergo cosmetic surgery because their recovery is definitely
going to be easier. They canhide the surgery better, all right.
So that's one factor. The otherfactor with men, Susan, is that
facelifts are problematic in men because faceliftsbring hair from the face into the ear.

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And any man who's listening now knowsthat, you know, the hair
that grows on the tragis and that'sthat little piece of cartilage in front of
the ear. That's really very annoying, you know, it really is.
And imagine if you had a fullbeard going in into your ear and you
had to figure out how to shavethat. That's a pain in the neck,
no pun intended pain in the face. So that's a potential problem.

(31:08):
We try and get rid of someof those hair follicles, but that's one
of the reasons men don't have faceliftsin any great frequency. And the other
is that they don't like wearing makeupand they can't cover incisions with hair.
So one of the things I doin men is suction of the fat of
the neck and a platismaplasty. That'scalled the bandlift procedure, and that is

(31:30):
a procedure that I do with somefrequency in men. And also eyelid surgery.
And when we come back from ourbreak, I'm going to talk about
that eyelid surgery in men, becauseI did win this past week. We're
going to talk about specifics how Ido it. So does that answer your
question, Susan, you asry.I do miss you asking those pithy questions

(31:52):
on the on the show, sometimessnarky questions also, but that's okay.
But anyway, soon and Warner,good luck with your book and give us,
you know, listeners. I knowthat you've got some new podcasts out
there, so give your podcasts oneone. Yeah, this was an unscheduled
appearance, but let's let's push yourpodcast go ahead. What is it again?

(32:14):
It's a suddenly single on iHeart,on Audible, Apple, Google,
everywhere there you go, and andyour book again is Never Say Never,
Never Say Always, a New YorkTimes bestseller and Amazon bestseller. They can
buy it on Amazon right, thankyou. Yeah. And also the audio

(32:36):
book mm hmm my reading it.Yep. Good, it's a tear jerker,
it really is. And good luckwith it. And you always have
You're always welcome to come onto theshow. Uh from your your speaking tour
around the world, around the world. Iry, I appreciate that and and
come on and uh and ask thosequestions and and remind people to buy that

(32:59):
book. Are right, Thanks somuch, Susan Warner. I'm board certified
plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry,host of What's Your Wrinkle. Noah's waving
his hands well way over the break, but with that unscheduled guest, we
had to go with it. Noah, eight hundred three two one zero seven
ten is a phone number here atwo R eight hundred three two one zero
seven ten. We'll be back afterthese words. They say that sixty is

(33:30):
the new fifty, But while youmay feel and act fifty, the mirror
doesn't lie. But that's where plasticsurgery comes in. I'm board certified plastic
surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry, andI love helping patients look younger and better.
If you've got sagging cheeks, jowls, and that dreaded turkey gobbler,
it might be time for a littlenip and a tuck. You look more
rested and yes, younger with myshort scar facelift and the artistic injection of

(33:54):
wrinkle filler or a laser peel,well, that might be just what it
takes to get you looking as goodas as you feel. Let's sit down
for an hour consultation in my newPark Avenue office. Together, we'll come
up with a plan to help youlook your best. Give me a call
at eight three three Perry MD.That's eight three three p e R R
Y M D. Check me outon the web at periplastic Surgery dot com,

(34:15):
and don't forget to listen to medoctor Arthur Perry. Every Saturday evening
at six pm right here on woR you're listening to What's Your Wrinkle with
doctor Arthur Perry. What's your Wrinkle? And what is your Wrinkle? I'm
board certified plastic surgeon, doctor ArthurPerry, host of What's Your Wrinkle for
a long long time eight hundred threetwo one zero seven ten is the phone

(34:37):
number here at wo R. Giveus a call eight hundred three two one
zero seven ten and callers will receivea bottle. Sounds like a game show,
right, We'll receive a bottle ofsoft time. And this is the
time of year to use it becauseput it on your hands, put it
on your face, put it onyour lips. Even Yeah, it's non
toxic. It's really very safe.Formulated it myself. I didn't just go

(35:01):
to some lab and ask someone tocreate something. I did it myself in
my kitchen. Seriously, all right, So we were talking about what we
do for those of you who wantto get right back out there in the
dating world. And it's a bigdeal, you know it, It really
is. Everybody wants to look asgood as possible and on those dating apps

(35:22):
and in person. And I saythose dating apps because here we are in
the year twenty twenty three. Howdo you meet people, particularly after the
age older, the age after theage of fifty or so. You know,
when you're in college, it's easy. Everybody's around, and you know
you're you're seeing lots and lots ofpeople in your classes and things like that.

(35:42):
But when you're out there. It'sa little bit more difficult, isn't
it. And I'm sure since Igave you all those statistics half of you
are single. Then it is moredifficult to meet people. And so people
go to the dating apps. Theygo to Hinge and Bumble and the League.
And not that I have any experiencein these things, but certainly those

(36:06):
dating apps are out there. Andthen you know, you have to put
your picture there, and hopefully youdon't put a picture that's completely filtered.
If you have no blemishes on yourface, you know nothing at all.
You're either putting a lot of makeupon or or you know, it's a
filter that you're using, and peoplesee through that. We want everybody wants

(36:30):
honesty, right. You know thefunniest thing with those dating apps is that
so many people lie about their age. Have you ever been on those things?
You know the clearly this person isseventy years old and they put fifty
eight. Yeah, okay, wellyou know honesty, that's what it's about.
Anyway. So you want to goout there, you want to maybe
start dating. You come to myoffice and you say, what do I

(36:53):
do, Doctor Perry. Now somepeople have in mind exactly what they want
to do, but a lot ofpeople don't and they leave it up to
me, and I try and bevery honest. I say, you know,
it's it's kind of like an AlecHart menu. You know, there's
many many things that we can doto help you look as good as possible.
So there are I mentioned a fewminutes ago before the phone call that

(37:16):
skincare. That's that's the basis forlooking good. You know, you want
your skin to look healthy. Youwant it to be not oily, not
these huge pores, no breakouts.You also then want the splotches to be
gone. You want you want ahomogeneous appearance to your skin, and that

(37:36):
could be skincare. There's no question. You know. I actually did an
ad for when I was with NewVitality, my night skin product a long
time ago, which is I don'tthink around anymore, but now we have
night time. But I didn't addand I said, I told a true
story about how I had three differentpatients who are scheduled for chemical trichlorocetic acid

(38:00):
chemical peels TCA peels. They're likechemical peels and they're designed to even out
the skin tone. And I puta lot of my patients on my skincare
program and they were on night Skinat the time. And I was actually
shocked, and this is a truestory, when I had three patients cancel
their chemical PILs because they got enoughlightning of their skin from night Skin to

(38:25):
you know, now they can puttheir makeup on and they didn't have to
worry about this watchiness. And Idid a commercial. This is true.
I did a commercial for night Skinwith that exact concept, and I got
a lot of grief from plastic surgeons. I got phone calls, I got
emails from plastic surgons that this isnot a good thing for a plastic surgeon

(38:47):
to do. Are you Are youserious? I'm not kidding, So all
right, I didn't make any friendswith that. It was really interesting.
I kept the commercial on because itwas true. It's true. But anyway,
so if skincare doesn't do it foryou, and it only goes a
certain extent, you know, we'renot gonna get rid of every wrinkle with
skincare. We can decrease wrinkles,but you know, it's not going to

(39:09):
get rid of every wrinkle. Evenmy program not gonna get rid of every
wrinkle, despite what some skincare companiessay, it's not going to get rid
of every splotch on your face.So the next step is cleaning up the
skin, cleaning up the skin fromthe things like sebriria caratosis. What are
sebririakeratosis? Everyone over the age offifty, not everyone, but most of

(39:32):
you have a separate of caratosis.They're from sun damage. And a lot
of people say, well, Idon't get in the sun anymore. Haven't
gotten to the sun since I wasthirty years old. I respect my skin,
but guess what. You get mostof your sun damage from ages three
to twenty or so, you reallydo. That's the majority of your time

(39:52):
in the sun, and the damageis already done, and it just takes
a little bit more damage as yougo through life to create those actinic keratosis,
which are pre malignant seboreic keratoses,which are not pre malignant but just
annoying. They're they're like something onyour skin, a little brown oily splotched
there. But it's the difference betweena sebarria caratosis and a freckle or an

(40:17):
age spot is that the sebarria keratosesyou can feel with your fingernails so if
you run your fingers across your skinand you feel the thing, it's not
a freckle and for the most part, cannot be peeled off. It has
to be dealt with in a differentway. So as a plastic surgeon,
what I do is I like toshave those off. So now dermatologists tend

(40:40):
to take liquid nitrogen and freeze themoff. I don't like that technique because
it also tends to give you somewhite scars if you do that, and
that's because the freezing doesn't really knowwhere to stop it. If it goes
just a couple cells too deep,you'll get a white spot and yeah,
yeah, the freckle will be butit's replaced then with a white spot.

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Not a good idea. If Inow, it takes more talent and more
time to shave off the separate keratosis, because what I have to do is
numb you up and with a scalpelactually shave it off. And if it's
big enough, I will send itto the pathologist. They look under the
microscope. I always like to saythat if it's big enough to have its

(41:23):
own ZIP code, we're going tosend it to the pathologists. They'll look
under the microscope. If I'm removinga hundred of these things, which I
often will do, I do thesesessions, and I go on your face
and your far ahead, and yourscalp, and your neck and your shoulders,
back chest, whatever. Will dothese sessions to clean you up and

(41:43):
get rid of those separate keratosis andthe bigger ones and the ones that are
kind of funny looking. Will sendto pathology. We can't send everyone because
you imagine if I send one hundredor two hundred of these things to the
pathologists, and you got this billabout the price of a car to do
that. So I have to usemy judgment as a plastic surgeon which ones

(42:04):
get sent and which ones do not. So then then at that point will
often do appeal, and it mightbe a chemical peal, or it might
be a laser peal. When wecome back from our break, we're going
to talk then about the next levelthat I do, the fillers and the
boatox, and then we're going totalk about surgery, the final the final

(42:28):
thing that you'll want to do tolook as good as possible to get back
on the dating apps, or maybeeven to be the candidate candidate for the
Golden Bachelor. I'm Board certified plasticsurgeon, doctor Arthur Perry, host of
the show eight hundred three to twoone zero seven ten. As a phone
number here at wor eight hundred threeto two one zero seven ten. We'll

(42:49):
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(43:58):
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the mirror doesn't lie. But that'swhere plastic surgery comes in. I'm
board certified plastic surgeon, Doctor ArthurPerry, and I love helping patients look
younger and better. If you've gotsagging cheeks, jowls, and that dreaded

(44:20):
turkey gobbler, it might be timefor a little nip and a tuck.
You look more rested and yes younger. With my short scar facelift and the
artistic injection of wrinkle filler or alaser peel, well, that might be
just what it takes to get youlooking as good as you feel. Let's
sit down for an hour consultation inmy new Park Avenue office. Together we'll
come up with a plan to helpyou look your best. Give me a

(44:42):
call at eight three three Perry MD. That's a three three p E r
R Y M D. Check meout on the web at Periplasticsurgery dot com
and don't forget to listen to me, doctor Arthur Perry, every Saturday evening
at six pm right here on WOR. You're listening to What's Your with doctor
Arthur Perry, What's your Wrinkle?And what is your Wrinkle? I'm Board

(45:05):
certified plastics surgeon, doctor Arthur Berry, host of What's Your Wrinkle? If
you're listening for the very first time, who is this guy? You say,
I'm a Board certified plastic surgeon.I practice in New York New office
on Park Avenue, Park in eightyfifth It's ten twenty one Park Avenue.
The phone number there by the way, is two point two seven five three
eighteen twenty. We are seeing patientsnow in the starting next week in the

(45:30):
ten twenty one Park Avenue office.We're phasing out the eighty what is it
the seven eighty five Park Avenue abouttwelve blocks south of there and moving uptown.
And of course in Somerset County.I've got an office where I've been
for thirty something years in Franklin Park, which is a summrset New Jersey,
the geographic center of the state.And I have so many patients. You

(45:53):
know, my patients from Pennsylvania.I don't think they're going to come to
Manhattan, so we'll have to keepthat office open. So don't worry.
We're not abandoning you, even thoughwe've got the new office in Manhattan.
So from the US Census Bureau,do you know, Noah, No,
Noah, there you go. There'sone hundred and eighteen million unmarried Americans over

(46:16):
the age of eighteen one hundred.That's a lot of unmarried Americans, and
many of them are coming to seeme to look better so they can become
married Americans or not. Everyone bodywants to get married, but a lot
of people do want to maybe havea partner or have a committed relationship or
live with someone. Doesn't necessarily needto be married anymore, right, unless

(46:39):
you're gonna well, we won't getinto the whole social aspect of that,
but certainly there's a lot of peoplethat are interested in looking better because they
want to look better for someone else. And whether that's right or wrong,
no one's making any judgments, butthey want to do it. And so
I'm here to help as a plasticsurgeon. So we've gone through so far,

(47:00):
skincare Yes, we want to thenremove the objectionable features in the face,
things like moles and sebari keratoses,things that kind of can't be covered
by makeup, right, and eventhe things that can be covered by makeup,
because if you take your makeup off, you still want to look good,
so that means a peal or alaser. Those are easy procedures that

(47:22):
are done in the office. Thereis a recovery period for all of these,
and so you have to hide fora little bit of time. You
can't cover a new wound from takingsomething off with makeup. You can't do
that. You can't put makeup ina wound, it'll get infected, so
we need to keep it clean.And yeah, you need to give a
little bit of time for recovery,so hide for a little bit of time.

(47:44):
So after that, though, wetalk about fillers. We talk about
wrinkle fillers, the rest Lane,Juventeri and things like that to make you
look better around your mouth. Forthe most part, that's what they're used
for. But fillers are very versatile. So I can fill wrinkles. Of
course, I can make your lipslook as Noah would say. He uses
the word luscious, right, Yeah, that's what Noah says. Uh yeah,

(48:07):
we can make your lips look morekissable. And in fact, there's
wrestling kiss KYSS which is specifically forthat. They actually did the test to
see if lips are more kissable afterwards, and they were voted more kissable by
the mate after the after the thefiller wrestling kiss was used. So we

(48:29):
can put that in the lips.We can fill the nasal abial folds.
We can build up cheekbones, wecan build up the chin. I can
fill those horizontal lines on the neck. They're really a pain in the neck,
are they? No? Pun intended? They are. They're They're difficult
to treat in any other way.So I do fill those now, and
I go all the way down onto the top of the chest. Those

(48:51):
vertical and oblique lines of the chests, you know that are caused by sun
damage. When you're in your teensand twenties, you might put sunscreen on
your face, A lot of womenforget to put it on the top of
their chest, and with the breastsbeing pulled in by the bra and bathing
suits and having the sun damage tothat area, you wind up getting fairly

(49:14):
deep wrinkles in the top of yourchest. And I can fill that with
filler. It makes it sounds redundant, doesn't it. But yeah, that's
the name of it is how uronicacid if you want me to use that
name so we can go out andreally make you look significantly better. But
if it's the upper part of theface, I'll use botox or zmin or
disport this was disport week in theoffice, or DAXI five. There's four

(49:37):
different ones that I use. There'sothers, and there's new ones that are
going to be FT approved very soon. But they all work the same way,
and they cause the muscles to stoppulling on the skin. They allow
the skin not to wrinkle. Andso the horizonal lines of the forehead,
the vertical lines between the brows,the crows feet, and the fourth area
that I tend to do is thechin, the dimple chin that a lot

(50:00):
of people get. And then Ialso do those bunny lines. You know
what they are, those bunny lineson your nose when you scrunch up your
nose, those technical terms that Ilike to use. You get those oblique
lines on your nose. Those arethe bunny lines. And I can botox
or use those other substances to makethose look better. So those are the
non invasive things, the lasers,al farrah. We can't forget all thera

(50:22):
because al thera is probably the bestway to smooth out creepy skin of the
neck. Not many things can dothat. I can't really get aggressive of
the laser on the neck because ittends to scar if we get aggressive in
the neck. But what I cando, I can be very aggressive with
altera, which is high energy focusedultrasound, and it goes under the skin.

(50:45):
It doesn't cause any blistering. Wedon't lose any skin like the laser
causes a wound and we have tohide for a little while after the laser.
But al thearra now now, Susanwas talking about me having procedures,
that's the only thing that I've done. I've done althera four times. I'm
way overdue for altherra. It isuncomfortable. I did one on a woman

(51:07):
last week and I reminded her howI was very uncomfortable when I had my
procedure as she laughed at me,literally laughed and said, this is no
more invasive than a massage. Andit's so funny because my women patients,
they do so much better than Idid with altherra. And some say it

(51:28):
doesn't hurt at all. Some sayit does hurt, but it's very variable.
I think women in general do betterwith all these procedures than men do,
so Althera's very good. Al Theacan raise your brows about two to
three millimeters, so if you don'twant to browlift, we can do something
like that. I can lift yourjowls just a little bit. I can

(51:49):
smooth the neck skin a little bit. And the truth of all THEARRA is
that in most people it's a fairlysubtle effect, a noticeable effect. In
about ten to fifteen percent of peopleit's a wow. But in the majority
of people it's relatively subtle. AndI'm honest with my patience, but it
is the only thing that can smooththe crepiness of the skin. And I

(52:14):
can go over the cheeks if you'vegot creepy cheeks, or let's say you're
just not a surgical candidate. Youknow, for whatever reason, let's say
you have diabetes or heart disease,or just you know, don't want to
have surgery. I'm not sure whyit's such a great thing, but if
you don't, then we have thesenon evasive procedures, and althera is the

(52:35):
non evasive procedure that can be usedto lift the gews, lift the brow,
smooth the skin of the neck.But once we go beyond that,
once we go beyond the lasers totighten the skin and you get rid of
wrinkles of the cheeks. And Ididn't mention the YAG laser for red marks.
A lot of women have red ontheir face, whether it's roseatia across
their nose and cheeks, or whetherit is those capillaries that you from sun

(53:00):
damage. I can treat those withthe YAG laser. And that's really simple.
That's one of the procedures that Ido that you have an instant effect.
And I love that because I doit in the office. I take
the mirror and I show you here'sthe big capillary going across your cheek or
your nose. Then I zap itand it's gone. And thirty seconds later

(53:22):
you pick up the mirror and say, wow, that is really impressive.
And it really is. I didthat to Doctor Oz on the Doctor Oz
Show. You know, I can'ttalk about my patients, but I can
talk about the people that I've doneon television, and I did that a
little uncomfortable for him, and hesaid, I'll never be on the show
again after that, But I wasso it couldn't have been that bad,
right anyway. Then we move upto surgery, and once we have fixed

(53:47):
the wrinkles, the fine wrinkles aroundthe mouth, once we fix the imperfections
of the face, the moles andthe the sebarri kartosis, the growths on
the surface of the skin. Oncewe've done what we could do with lasers
and fillers and altha, it istime to go into the operator. And

(54:07):
that may not be for you,but it is for so many people.
So facelifts and eyelid lifts. Eyelidlifts are one of the great procedures.
I love doing eyelid lifts in aboutan hour and a half. That's what
it takes me to do the upperlids. It takes me about an hour
and a half to do the lowerlids. So if we're doing all four
lids, the two uppers and thetwo lowers, a lot of people think

(54:27):
there's only two lids, there's four. It's about a three hour procedure and
I did it on a man thisweek Manhattan, I and ear I operated
and the man had he was inhis seventies and had bags under his eyes
and extra skin of the upper eyelids. And a man I do a much
more conservative operation than a woman wantsto see, wants all that skin gone

(54:49):
so she can put her makeup onher eyelids and have the beauty of the
eyelids be seen with the makeup.But if I did that to a man,
he would not appreciate it. Ihave to leave some skin purposely on
a man because otherwise it'll look funny. It really will. It'll feminize masculine
eyelids. And good plastic surgeons knowthe difference. You know that we don't
do the same facelift and a manand a woman. We don't do the

(55:13):
same rhinoplasty and a man and awoman. We don't do the same eyelid
lift in a man or a woman. And the position of eyebrows in a
man should be at the bony rimand a woman above or at the bony
rim. So that's kind of arundown of the procedures that I do.
For the women who want to beon the Bachelor or the bachelorette, or

(55:34):
just on the dating apps. I'mBORD certified plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry,
Noah, thanks so much for greatengineering as usual. If you're interested
in me, my website is Perryplasticsurgerydot com. If you're interested in the
products I talk about on the show, it's doctor Perrys dot com or on
Amazon. You can go on Amazon. Thanks so much. We'll be back
here six o'clock next week. Havea great one everybody, Bye bye.

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