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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is a podcast from wor Now the wr Saturday
Morning Show. Here's Larry Minty.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hello and welcome to Saturday Morning. On this week's show,
former NYPD Commissioner Bill Bratton tells us what he thinks
about some new police procedures and regulations in the city.
Alan Rosen, the owner of Junior's restaurant in Midtown, talks
about the effect of congestion pricing on his business. Former
New Yorkers David and Nicky Stein now live in Los
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Angeles and they lost everything in the fire. We'll talk
with them, and Mark Malcolm, the senior culture and Events
editor for Variety magazine, says Hollywood is shut down. But
we begin with former Commissioner Bill Bratton. Hi, Commissioner, thanks
for joining us today.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Good morning, Good to be with you in your audience.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
What do you think of that new policy about limiting
police support police chases.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Very supportive of that. That's consistent with the policies of
many other agencies around the country, reducing the risk of
injury to particularly to innocent individuals. So it's a trend
that's been underway for quite some time in the country.
In new Arkansas, catching up to that trend.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, especially in New York, just with the congestion and
the traffic and the people that have to walk on
the streets and how close everything is. There's been some
horrible accidents over the last few years. I just read
a report that seventeen people have died over the last
three years. So I would think this was a long time.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Coming, and I'm sure that factored into her decision to move. Now,
good news on this issue is that with increasing technology
capabilities drones for example, it may not be the neat
for some of these chases because you just follow the
car with a drone, see where they end up, where
they get out. And so I think it's a very
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good part policy will save lives, put officers lives less
at risk in that pursuit, as well as the innocent
and civilians that might be in the area.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Now, let's talk about Governor hokel on her proposal to
put a police officer on every subway car overnight, starting
at nine at night. It sounds like a great idea,
but it's going to cost a lot of money and
apparently it's only in the last six months. How do
you feel about it?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Six month window is to get a sense of doesn't
have impact both on actual crime in disorder and disorder
is a major aspect of particularly the homeless if you will,
who are occupying those trains overnight for sleeping quarters. I
have so many friends doing them into my buildings who
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talk about their horrible experiences getting on a subway ki
at five o'clock in the morning that's been occupied by
half a dozen homeless people. The circumstances and conditions also
the crime that there's not a lot of crime, but
there's enough crime that attracts attention, and so a good
move and they'll be able to evaluate after six months
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was it worth the investment, crime go down, the disorder anticipate,
is the public happy to see the police and it's
a good use of police resources. So let's see how
it works. That we've tried it in the past and
it worked out well in the past, but it is expensive,
no denying that.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
So it's your expectation this is going to work out
well again.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
My understanding is that in conversation with the Commissioner, they've
had an initiative where they've already had officers riding and
under those trains in the morning have been great police
with the results so this is a significant expansion of
that effort. The state will fund it. That will help
the city on its overtime pressures. That the poper has
been getting beat up unjustifiably by the city council about
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its overtime. The overtime is actually caused by the fact
enough police officers in the city of New York. New
York needs several thousand more offices than it has, and
that's the reality, and then you wouldn't need as much
over time you have people available. The problem is recruiting.
New York, like every place else, is having trouble recruiting
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enough officers to staff up its forces. So it has
to rely on the overtime to the time being.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, we have to stop attacking police officers publicly and
scrutinizing everything they do. I can't imagine what it's like
to be a police officer for the last several years
and sometimes not being able to do your job, and
when you do do your job, you're scrutinized for that
and sometimes charged. Is that the major reason for the lack.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Of officers, Well, I think it's a combination of factors
in New York City. Tell them it is the pay
levels of comparisons to say, Suffolk Nasa County elsewhere in
the state MTA, they get paid a lot more than
New York City police offices. But it's a combination of pay.
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It's a combination of the atmosphere over the last four
or five years, the stupid defund the police movement, and
the idea that in the city of the Ark, in
the State of the Ark, there has been significant administrative
and bureaucratic oversight and additional burdens placed on police that
are not placed on police offices anywhere else in the country.
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New York has probably the most oversupervised, over bureaucratized set
of rules of any police department in America, so that
certainly weighs in in terms of discouraging people from joining
the department and as importantly encouraging them to leave after
just a few years they get on the job, it's
not what they expected, and they leave. The better pay
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they leave, the less administrative than bureaucratic oversight.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
One last thing, Governor Hokeel talked about police being involved
in the involuntary removal of those who were mentally ill
and are a threat to themselves and possibly to society.
Police officers putting a lot on their plate if this
goes through, if this happens, do they need special training
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for that or are they all ready to do this job.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
They certainly need special training for that. That In terms
of when I achieved a police there twenty thirty years ago,
we certainly had fewer rules and oversight and regulations, which
was not a good thing in the sense of dealing
with the mentally ill. And a lot of the issues
on the subway involved mentally ill people or people under
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the influence of drugs. So the training is necessary, but
we place an incredible burden on police officers find to
determine what are they dealing with. So I support the
effort to have more social worker type people involved who
are trained to deal with these many different issues and
health issues and drug issues, and so the partnership, the
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collaboration is essential. You want cops to take but you
want those copts to we train. And that's why it's
important to have police offices in the subway who are
trained to deal with the issues in the subway, whether
it's a track emergency, medical emergency, drug emergency, crime emergency.
And so once again that's the burden of being a
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police officer in New York City, you have all these
unique aspects of the job that you don't have at
other locations.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Hey, by the way, congratulations from being hired down in
New Orleans to take a look at things there and
try to make it safer after that terrorist attack. The
next time we have you on, I'd love to talk
to you about that, not only what you're doing in
New Orleans, but what we could learn from that in
New York. Although I think New York is the best
in the world with handling terrorism just because such a target.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
New York certainly is, and that's one of the things
that New Orleans is looking for some of the New
York expertise. So I have a team down there this
week that include some significant specialists retire It's from the
NYPD Counted Terrorism Unit and sort of a heavy New
York influence the consultation advice that will be giving them.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Wonderful Bill Bratton, former NYPD Commissioner, Thanks as always for
your time.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
All the best, have a great money.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Coming up next. Has congestion pricing had an effect on
Midtown businesses? We'll ask Alan Rosen, the owner of Junior's Restaurant, next.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Here's Larry Mente with more of the wor Saturday Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Welcome back. Yes, there are fewer cars in midtown Manhattan,
and the MTA will crow see congestion pricing is working,
but what is the effect on midtown businesses? Let's ask
Alan Rosen, owner of Junior's Restaurant. Thank you so much
for joining us. You have two businesses in the congestion
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pricing zone.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
I have two of the larger restaurants in New York
City inside congestion zen. Thank you for having me this morning.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Sure, no problem. I thought that was important to point
out because it's going to be double the cost for you.
How much is this affecting you?
Speaker 4 (09:10):
So you know, the jury is still out on how
much it's affecting me. But what I find kind of funny,
you know, alluding to what you were saying earlier, Jannah Liebers,
you know, doing a dance at how traffic has been
reduced immediately. But I wonder if he's ever worked in
a restaurant or a parking garage, or a Broadway theater
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or any other type of retail shop in the congestion
pricing zone that could be affected and somebody in effect
could lose their job because of this. You know, traffic
might be freed up, but that could mean you know,
I don't know how many thousands of less visitors to
New York City every day.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, no, I understand that. I also and you have
these men and women and working for you. I bleed.
I really feel bad for the people who work in
restaurants who have to work in the city over the night.
The waiter of the waitress, or the bartender that doesn't
get off until two in the morning, or the nurse
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that has to be in or the construction worker that
has to be in early. They can't afford it. They
can't afford it.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Not only they cannot they can't afford it, and they
can't afford not to use their cars because, as you
pointed out, they're going home at two to three in
the morning. And if the subways were perfect with you
and I both know they are not. They're less perfect
now than they've ever been. To be totally transparent, maybe
they'd have a shot. If crime was down and there
was no quality of life issues in New York, we
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could focus on, you know, getting people onto the rails
and stuff like that. But it just seems to me
all times a cash grab, no doubt, or aggressive tax
against the people and working people of New York who
can at least afford it. And it's it's just to me,
it's again another example of our government doing what they
want to do, overreaching, and even you know, the governor
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to say she wasn't going to put it in play,
wait till after the election, then put it in place
seems so disingenuous to me that you know, it just stinks.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
You said, it's too early to really see the effect.
Has there been any effect whatsoever right now?
Speaker 4 (11:15):
So overall compared to last year, we are down fractionally
a little more than factually, to be honest, But there
was also some cold weather last week, so I don't
want to judge based on one week's data. You know,
the same thing I'm accusing the MTA, which is celebrating prematurely.
I want to give this time to play out and
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be more pragmatic in my approach to everything I do
before I say. But as I said, they're saying car
traffics down, they think that's a great thing. I just
want to make sure that visitors to New York City
aren't down.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
You know, You're supposed to be the good guys by
the way. Yeah, you know, the people that have businesses
in midtown. And it seems like every regulation, everything that
comes out hurts businesses in the mid to talk about
this new char broil rule, it.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Only gets sillier by the minute, Larry. So the other
day I became aware of a new deep ruling or
law coming down that was passed years ago, I guess
not enforced that if you cook over eight hundred and
seventy five pounds of meat on an open flame in
New York City and you don't have a certain way
to clean your smoke and you do it on an
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open flame, as we have been doing a Juniors for
seventy four years, you're gonna have to get a new
broiler and or fix your exhaust. And I just found
out this morning they're gonna you have to register your
tar broiler. And you know what goes with registering a
tar broiler a fee. I mean, it almost makes you
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feel like you don't want to do business in New
York City. We have four hundred employees in the city,
we have one hundred and fifty in Brooklyn, and they're
gonna punish you for cooking a burger on an open flame.
Look at what we have going on in the world. Okay,
we have forest fires in Los Angeles. Okay, and I'm
not making light of that. That is a serious situation.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
And they're the DP is going to have a hearing
on hamburger smoke.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, and the reasons for this, By the way, they
should be celebrating you. If they talk about a cash grab,
the taxes you pay and the employees you bring and
the people you bring to the city, they should be
celebrating that and saying to you, what do you need
not making your job more difficult. I just don't understand.
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I don't understand the rationale of the mind of people
that run government, that feel like they see you, and
I'm sure you feel this way. They see you and
their first thought is how can we make more money
off of them? And when they I.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Think, you know, celebration. What I do want is some
mutual respect. You know, many of these politicians, as you
just noted, they probably have never worked in a fast
food restaurant or a regular restaurant, or delivered newspapers or
all the stuff that I've done. I mean, I've spent
a career developing myself into a restaurant tour and our
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employees are hard working and they want to be safe.
We don't want to be overly regulated. But we're not
doing anything so bad. The fact that they have to
go after eight hundred and seventy five pounds of steak
or hamburgers only is a reflection on them and the
absurdity of this government overreach. And it's gotten to the
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point where I mean a lot of If I have
such a good business, i'd leave. What makes New York
City so wonderful is all those occasions to go to
New York Broadway shows, dining, sporting events. Of course, we
all have to go to work every day. Why do
we want to penalize people for doing that? Absolute you're
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living their lives in a free way. You want to
take the train, take the train, you want to take
the bus, You take the bus. You need to drive
your car. No, there are people that are unable to
get into the city on the subway. My mom's eighty
three years old. She's not taking a train to get
to the city.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Alan Rosan, owner of Junior's Restaurant, coming up, we'll head
out to Los Angeles, to find out how the wildfires
have affected families and the movie business. We'll talk about both.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Here again is Larry Minty with the wr Saturday Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Welcome back. David and Nicki Stein now live in southern California.
It was a dream come true that turned into a
nightmare when the Santa Ana wins fueled uncontrollable wildfires. David
and Nicky are here to tell their story. How are
you both holding up right now?
Speaker 5 (15:48):
We're holding up. Yeah, we're in the work by the
outpour of help that is coming from the community. That
we can stay in a complete stranger's house right now,
the woman who just moved out to make room for
a family like us. So friends of friends of friends.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
It's crazy, all right, Nikki, thank you, David?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
What were you going to say?
Speaker 6 (16:15):
I'm sorry, I'm constracted by the thing. Yeah, it's it's amazing.
With being a part of all, I learned the importance
of being a part of all different types of communities,
whether it's my kids, Haabad, preschool, my work, my job,
my school, especially boy Scouts in this area. True two
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two three has been like tremendous of everyone coming together
and it's been overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Does give you hope in the wake of disaster. This
is a common story after disasters all around the world.
The people to come forward, these angels, these spiritual first
responders that come out of the woodwork and and help
and they're there for you. We saw it here in
New York after nine to eleven, the people that came
from across the country just because they wanted to do something,
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they wanted to help. If the two of you can
walk through this, and David will start with you this time,
walk through what happened when you first were Did you
get enough warning that this might happen?
Speaker 6 (17:16):
Sure? I mean, like our neighbor called me and he says,
look over the ridge. I mean we're like right on
the water in this mobile home park, and it was
just this spiraling smoke going out, you know, over the ocean.
You know, it was like nine to eleven where your
eyes moved one direction and then you just panned all
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the way across. You know, we couldn't see the fire.
My wife left immediately to go get my son at school.
I was left behind, and then it just happened very quickly.
We were a bit prepared in the sense that we
had to go bags because you were ready for like
an earthquake, we weren't thinking about a fire. And as
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for memories, I had grabbed all my hard drives and
laptops and work monitors and a bag of clothes and
that was it. And then I left and I went
through like a series of emotions where I'm on medications
because I'm also sick at a very trying time this
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past year, so it was like on the verge of crying.
We met my wife, we ate, we got to the hotel,
and then we're just literally watching it on TV. And
I was just nauseous for five hours. And it was
surreal identifying structures and especially our park going up in flames,
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along with being part of a WhatsApp group and getting
updates because many of our neighbors remained behind to try
to save their homes and to communicate with the firemen
who were helpful but were fruitless than the fire because
it just came in so quickly. And then I think
by like eleven o'clock that night, it was confirmed that
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our house was gone, and then it was sort of
the dodger went away.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I get it, David. I can't. No one can imagine
what you went through and Nikki, I'm intrigued by the fact,
and it's understandable that a mother the first thing she
thinks of is, oh, my god, I gotta go get
my child. What was it like at that school when
everybody was everybody rushing there to get their children.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Yes, it was actually a good miscommunication of my child
that I could pick them up at his school while
they would be bussed to a different campus. So I
was there early, and then other parents had waited two
and a half hours in line to pick up their
children because you know, they need to go through lists
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and are accountable for all the children. So for them
it took long. I was fairly fast. I was out
there like in an hour or two, but the others
way way longer. Everybody rushed there. Yes, the schools are
now getting together to share campuses.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
For all of us that are watching this on TV
and thinking to ourselves, oh my god, that's such a
horrible situation. What can we do? I know that both
of you volunteered during Superstorm Sandy and the aftermath of
Superstorm Sandy. I guess the best we can do is
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pray that things are going to get better. But are
there enough people now volunteering like the two of you
did to help you.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Yes, right now there are enough people. What we fear
is the long haul because this is not going to
be over in two weeks. So right now this is
new and everybody is there, and I hope people will
have the stamina to bear with us.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
When you say bear with us, what do you mean
by that, Well, there's.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
So many people this place. I don't think that everybody
will have found a place in the next month, for example,
with places to find places to hold our mail, to
collect things. A lot of people want to give things
to me, but I don't know where to put them.
I have no address, I have no house, nothing. We
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have the trunk of our car and that's full.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
Our postal, our post office burned down, our bank burned down,
our school's burned down. Everything's gone right.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Your lives are just going right. Now you have to rebuild.
By the way, we're going to post your GoFundMe on
seven to ten wor dot com. Because now that people
got to know you, I'm sure they're gonna they're gonna
they're gonna want to help and and and trust me,
I think everybody's going to join in in praying for
you at this point, and so God bless you. I
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hope things work out for you. Please keep touching. If
you need anything, call us.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Thank you so much, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
David and Nikki stuff. We will stay with the wildfires
next and talk about the effect they have on the
movie industry with Mark Malkin from Variety Magazine. That's next.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Back now to the WOOR Saturday Morning Show with Larry Minti.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
The wildfires in LA destroyed entire communities and even threatened Hollywood.
Movie production has been shut down indefinitely. Let's bring in
Mark Malkin, the senior Culture and Events editor for Variety,
before we get into it. I understand you're from Queens.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
I am from Queens. I am from Howard Beach, but
I've been living in Los Angeles since what almost twenty
one years?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Well, welcome back. Tell us what happened to Hollywood? Thank you.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
You know Hollywood right now the fires are going to
have a devastating effect on Hollywood for years to come,
you know, in the immediate the immediate future of Hollywood.
Right now, everything is pretty much shut down from the
standpoint of production. Some TV shows have gone back, but
right now Hollywood is suffering the economics, the devastation is
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pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Now we're talking we don't always think about all of
the people involved in these productions. We're talking about thousands
and thousands of people.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
Yeah, you know what, I think a lot of people see,
you know, who may not live in Los Angeles, are
not familiar with how it all works. You know, we
see the celebrities, we see the very rich and the powerful.
Yes they have suffered to the fires. But what we're
not seeing are all the people behind the scenes. Alta
Dina is a city that is full of people who
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make your TV shows, who make your movies. Who are
the drivers, the production assistance, the lighting, the you know,
the production, the catering, the craft services. These are people
who make a living day to day. They're gig workers.
They are not your movie stars who are making ten
million dollars a day. So what we're seeing right now
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is all of those people out of work, have no homes,
have nothing. This is, like I said, I can't use
this word enough devastating.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Is the industry itself doing anything for these people.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
There is so one thing about Los Angeles, and you know,
I experienced it when I was in New York for
nine to eleven. It's called resilience. Los Angeles has really
come together and said, you know what, we are going
to rebuild. We are going to come back from this.
We're going to take care of our own. You are
seeing fundraisers, donation centers all around town. You are seeing
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people like Leonardo DiCaprio donating one million dollars for relief funds.
You're seeing companies like Google, YouTube, Meta, Disney, Apple, you
names in a high tech company. They're donating millions and millions.
But what we have to realize is that right now,
cities like Alta Dina have been decimated, the palisades have
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been decimated. Is going to take years and years to rebuild.
And like nine to eleven, right now, the air quality
in Los Angeles is bad. It is toxic, it is unhealthy.
There's a lot of work to be done.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
So I know this is the least important in all
of this, this next question, but I'm sure it's in
a lot of people's minds because Hollywood has been hit
by the pandemic. It was hit by two strikes, a
writer's strike and an actor's strike, and now this and
every time that happens, production is halted and people don't
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get their shows, the movies don't come out. How long
before the recovery is to the point where production can
start again. And what are we going to feel when
we go to see our show or go to the theater.
Is there going to be nothing or just a couple
of movies that are or in a couple of shows
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that are made outside of Hollywood.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
I think, you know, I think that's a great question.
I think right now we're still literally in the midst
of the fires, we're still worrying about the Santa Ana wins,
you know, gearing up again. So I think in terms
of timing, we're just not sure this is you know,
here comes that word again, unprecedented. We don't know what
this is like. I think you know what you are
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going to see, and I think this is happening right now.
Is you're seeing a push to return filming to Los Angeles.
A lot of filming left Los Angeles for cities like Atlanta, Toronto,
to London because it was getting too expensive. I think
there's going to be a big push to say, hey,
we need to bring filming back to Los Angeles. In
terms of what movies, what TV shows are going to
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be delayed in terms of coming out and being released.
I think we still need some more time to figure
all of that out.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yeah, it would be It would be so good. It
would It would be great for the country. I know
it would be great for Hollywood and Los Angeles. If
the one thing that we think about when we think
about LA, the movie industry comes back, like you know,
it rises from the ashes and it goes back into production,
it'd be wonderful for the people of Los Angeles. But
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I think it would be a sign to the rest
of the country that they're healing and we can support them.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
Yeah, and I think that that's a really good point
in terms of showing that Los Angeles is healing and
Los Angeles is still in business. You know, we know
the Grammarys are coming up, the Oscars are coming up,
the Critics' Choice Awards are coming up, Red Carpets are
coming up, And there are some people who said, well,
maybe they're going to have to move the Grammys. Let's
say to New York Listen, I love New York. As
you mentioned, I'm from New York. But I think, you know,
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we don't want to do that. We want to show
that Los Angeles is in business. We don't want to show,
you know, Los Angeles has given up or is moving
things out. So I think it's people like you and
other people really pushing for Los Angeles. We are the
movie capital of the world, there is no doubt, the
entertainment capital of the world. And I think, you know,
there is going to be an even stronger to make
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sure that stays in place.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yeah, I certainly hope that happens, because not only it
would be good for the people that are you know
or not don't know what they're gonna do with their
lives because they've lost their jobs and they're worried about
their homes and their families, but it would be great
for Los Angeles. I think it would be a very
bold gesture. And I've heard I've read the articles too,
and an in variety about what they're going to do next.
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I think a bold statement has to be the next
thing that Hollywood makes to show that they're back. And
I hope that happens, and I hope that that your
magazine and then your website can promote that because I
think it needs a little push.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
Yeah, And I think you know, I was even on
the phone with someone yesterday from one of the studios
and they were debating, do I have a red carper
premiere now or I don't? And it's a really big
question because listen, do people want to see the glitz
and the glamour right now? Probably not, But I do
think that event's red carpets, you know, maybe probably scaled
down red carpet show that Los Angeles is still in
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business and that we're still here. We don't want to
we don't want to be defeated because we're not defeated.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah. Absolutely, And there's a lot of rich people at
those openings. They can all contribute and give money to
those that are suffering. Mark Malcoln, it was a pleasure
to talk to you. Welcome home kind of. He is
the Variety senior Culture and Events editor, and if you
haven't read Variety, you should. It's an important magazine to read,
especially now during these fires and Hollywood's suffering. Thanks so much, Mark.
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That wraps up the Saturday morning show. Thanks for listening,
and thanks to producer Peter Arellano who puts the show together.
I'll be back for mentee in the morning Monday from
six to ten. Have a great rest of your weekend.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
This has been a podcast from wor
This is a podcast from wor Now the wr Saturday
Morning Show. Here's Larry Minty.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hello and welcome to Saturday Morning. On this week's show,
former NYPD Commissioner Bill Bratton tells us what he thinks
about some new police procedures and regulations in the city.
Alan Rosen, the owner of Junior's restaurant in Midtown, talks
about the effect of congestion pricing on his business. Former
New Yorkers David and Nicky Stein now live in Los
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Angeles and they lost everything in the fire. We'll talk
with them, and Mark Malcolm, the senior culture and Events
editor for Variety magazine, says Hollywood is shut down. But
we begin with former Commissioner Bill Bratton. Hi, Commissioner, thanks
for joining us today.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Good morning, Good to be with you in your audience.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
What do you think of that new policy about limiting
police support police chases.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Very supportive of that. That's consistent with the policies of
many other agencies around the country, reducing the risk of
injury to particularly to innocent individuals. So it's a trend
that's been underway for quite some time in the country.
In new Arkansas, catching up to that trend.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, especially in New York, just with the congestion and
the traffic and the people that have to walk on
the streets and how close everything is. There's been some
horrible accidents over the last few years. I just read
a report that seventeen people have died over the last
three years. So I would think this was a long time.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Coming, and I'm sure that factored into her decision to move. Now,
good news on this issue is that with increasing technology
capabilities drones for example, it may not be the neat
for some of these chases because you just follow the
car with a drone, see where they end up, where
they get out. And so I think it's a very
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good part policy will save lives, put officers lives less
at risk in that pursuit, as well as the innocent
and civilians that might be in the area.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Now, let's talk about Governor hokel on her proposal to
put a police officer on every subway car overnight, starting
at nine at night. It sounds like a great idea,
but it's going to cost a lot of money and
apparently it's only in the last six months. How do
you feel about it?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Six month window is to get a sense of doesn't
have impact both on actual crime in disorder and disorder
is a major aspect of particularly the homeless if you will,
who are occupying those trains overnight for sleeping quarters. I
have so many friends doing them into my buildings who
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talk about their horrible experiences getting on a subway ki
at five o'clock in the morning that's been occupied by
half a dozen homeless people. The circumstances and conditions also
the crime that there's not a lot of crime, but
there's enough crime that attracts attention, and so a good
move and they'll be able to evaluate after six months
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was it worth the investment, crime go down, the disorder anticipate,
is the public happy to see the police and it's
a good use of police resources. So let's see how
it works. That we've tried it in the past and
it worked out well in the past, but it is expensive,
no denying that.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
So it's your expectation this is going to work out
well again.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
My understanding is that in conversation with the Commissioner, they've
had an initiative where they've already had officers riding and
under those trains in the morning have been great police
with the results so this is a significant expansion of
that effort. The state will fund it. That will help
the city on its overtime pressures. That the poper has
been getting beat up unjustifiably by the city council about
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its overtime. The overtime is actually caused by the fact
enough police officers in the city of New York. New
York needs several thousand more offices than it has, and
that's the reality, and then you wouldn't need as much
over time you have people available. The problem is recruiting.
New York, like every place else, is having trouble recruiting
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enough officers to staff up its forces. So it has
to rely on the overtime to the time being.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, we have to stop attacking police officers publicly and
scrutinizing everything they do. I can't imagine what it's like
to be a police officer for the last several years
and sometimes not being able to do your job, and
when you do do your job, you're scrutinized for that
and sometimes charged. Is that the major reason for the lack.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Of officers, Well, I think it's a combination of factors
in New York City. Tell them it is the pay
levels of comparisons to say, Suffolk Nasa County elsewhere in
the state MTA, they get paid a lot more than
New York City police offices. But it's a combination of pay.
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It's a combination of the atmosphere over the last four
or five years, the stupid defund the police movement, and
the idea that in the city of the Ark, in
the State of the Ark, there has been significant administrative
and bureaucratic oversight and additional burdens placed on police that
are not placed on police offices anywhere else in the country.
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New York has probably the most oversupervised, over bureaucratized set
of rules of any police department in America, so that
certainly weighs in in terms of discouraging people from joining
the department and as importantly encouraging them to leave after
just a few years they get on the job, it's
not what they expected, and they leave. The better pay
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they leave, the less administrative than bureaucratic oversight.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
One last thing, Governor Hokeel talked about police being involved
in the involuntary removal of those who were mentally ill
and are a threat to themselves and possibly to society.
Police officers putting a lot on their plate if this
goes through, if this happens, do they need special training
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for that or are they all ready to do this job.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
They certainly need special training for that. That In terms
of when I achieved a police there twenty thirty years ago,
we certainly had fewer rules and oversight and regulations, which
was not a good thing in the sense of dealing
with the mentally ill. And a lot of the issues
on the subway involved mentally ill people or people under
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the influence of drugs. So the training is necessary, but
we place an incredible burden on police officers find to
determine what are they dealing with. So I support the
effort to have more social worker type people involved who
are trained to deal with these many different issues and
health issues and drug issues, and so the partnership, the
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collaboration is essential. You want cops to take but you
want those copts to we train. And that's why it's
important to have police offices in the subway who are
trained to deal with the issues in the subway, whether
it's a track emergency, medical emergency, drug emergency, crime emergency.
And so once again that's the burden of being a
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police officer in New York City, you have all these
unique aspects of the job that you don't have at
other locations.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Hey, by the way, congratulations from being hired down in
New Orleans to take a look at things there and
try to make it safer after that terrorist attack. The
next time we have you on, I'd love to talk
to you about that, not only what you're doing in
New Orleans, but what we could learn from that in
New York. Although I think New York is the best
in the world with handling terrorism just because such a target.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
New York certainly is, and that's one of the things
that New Orleans is looking for some of the New
York expertise. So I have a team down there this
week that include some significant specialists retire It's from the
NYPD Counted Terrorism Unit and sort of a heavy New
York influence the consultation advice that will be giving them.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Wonderful Bill Bratton, former NYPD Commissioner, Thanks as always for
your time.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
All the best, have a great money.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Coming up next. Has congestion pricing had an effect on
Midtown businesses? We'll ask Alan Rosen, the owner of Junior's Restaurant, next.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Here's Larry Mente with more of the wor Saturday Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Welcome back. Yes, there are fewer cars in midtown Manhattan,
and the MTA will crow see congestion pricing is working,
but what is the effect on midtown businesses? Let's ask
Alan Rosen, owner of Junior's Restaurant. Thank you so much
for joining us. You have two businesses in the congestion
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pricing zone.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
I have two of the larger restaurants in New York
City inside congestion zen. Thank you for having me this morning.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Sure, no problem. I thought that was important to point
out because it's going to be double the cost for you.
How much is this affecting you?
Speaker 4 (09:10):
So you know, the jury is still out on how
much it's affecting me. But what I find kind of funny,
you know, alluding to what you were saying earlier, Jannah Liebers,
you know, doing a dance at how traffic has been
reduced immediately. But I wonder if he's ever worked in
a restaurant or a parking garage, or a Broadway theater
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or any other type of retail shop in the congestion
pricing zone that could be affected and somebody in effect
could lose their job because of this. You know, traffic
might be freed up, but that could mean you know,
I don't know how many thousands of less visitors to
New York City every day.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, no, I understand that. I also and you have
these men and women and working for you. I bleed.
I really feel bad for the people who work in
restaurants who have to work in the city over the night.
The waiter of the waitress, or the bartender that doesn't
get off until two in the morning, or the nurse
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that has to be in or the construction worker that
has to be in early. They can't afford it. They
can't afford it.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Not only they cannot they can't afford it, and they
can't afford not to use their cars because, as you
pointed out, they're going home at two to three in
the morning. And if the subways were perfect with you
and I both know they are not. They're less perfect
now than they've ever been. To be totally transparent, maybe
they'd have a shot. If crime was down and there
was no quality of life issues in New York, we
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could focus on, you know, getting people onto the rails
and stuff like that. But it just seems to me
all times a cash grab, no doubt, or aggressive tax
against the people and working people of New York who
can at least afford it. And it's it's just to me,
it's again another example of our government doing what they
want to do, overreaching, and even you know, the governor
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to say she wasn't going to put it in play,
wait till after the election, then put it in place
seems so disingenuous to me that you know, it just stinks.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
You said, it's too early to really see the effect.
Has there been any effect whatsoever right now?
Speaker 4 (11:15):
So overall compared to last year, we are down fractionally
a little more than factually, to be honest, But there
was also some cold weather last week, so I don't
want to judge based on one week's data. You know,
the same thing I'm accusing the MTA, which is celebrating prematurely.
I want to give this time to play out and
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be more pragmatic in my approach to everything I do
before I say. But as I said, they're saying car
traffics down, they think that's a great thing. I just
want to make sure that visitors to New York City
aren't down.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
You know, You're supposed to be the good guys by
the way. Yeah, you know, the people that have businesses
in midtown. And it seems like every regulation, everything that
comes out hurts businesses in the mid to talk about
this new char broil rule, it.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Only gets sillier by the minute, Larry. So the other
day I became aware of a new deep ruling or
law coming down that was passed years ago, I guess
not enforced that if you cook over eight hundred and
seventy five pounds of meat on an open flame in
New York City and you don't have a certain way
to clean your smoke and you do it on an
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open flame, as we have been doing a Juniors for
seventy four years, you're gonna have to get a new
broiler and or fix your exhaust. And I just found
out this morning they're gonna you have to register your
tar broiler. And you know what goes with registering a
tar broiler a fee. I mean, it almost makes you
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feel like you don't want to do business in New
York City. We have four hundred employees in the city,
we have one hundred and fifty in Brooklyn, and they're
gonna punish you for cooking a burger on an open flame.
Look at what we have going on in the world. Okay,
we have forest fires in Los Angeles. Okay, and I'm
not making light of that. That is a serious situation.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
And they're the DP is going to have a hearing
on hamburger smoke.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, and the reasons for this, By the way, they
should be celebrating you. If they talk about a cash grab,
the taxes you pay and the employees you bring and
the people you bring to the city, they should be
celebrating that and saying to you, what do you need
not making your job more difficult. I just don't understand.
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I don't understand the rationale of the mind of people
that run government, that feel like they see you, and
I'm sure you feel this way. They see you and
their first thought is how can we make more money
off of them? And when they I.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Think, you know, celebration. What I do want is some
mutual respect. You know, many of these politicians, as you
just noted, they probably have never worked in a fast
food restaurant or a regular restaurant, or delivered newspapers or
all the stuff that I've done. I mean, I've spent
a career developing myself into a restaurant tour and our
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employees are hard working and they want to be safe.
We don't want to be overly regulated. But we're not
doing anything so bad. The fact that they have to
go after eight hundred and seventy five pounds of steak
or hamburgers only is a reflection on them and the
absurdity of this government overreach. And it's gotten to the
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point where I mean a lot of If I have
such a good business, i'd leave. What makes New York
City so wonderful is all those occasions to go to
New York Broadway shows, dining, sporting events. Of course, we
all have to go to work every day. Why do
we want to penalize people for doing that? Absolute you're
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living their lives in a free way. You want to
take the train, take the train, you want to take
the bus, You take the bus. You need to drive
your car. No, there are people that are unable to
get into the city on the subway. My mom's eighty
three years old. She's not taking a train to get
to the city.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Alan Rosan, owner of Junior's Restaurant, coming up, we'll head
out to Los Angeles, to find out how the wildfires
have affected families and the movie business. We'll talk about both.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Here again is Larry Minty with the wr Saturday Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Welcome back. David and Nicki Stein now live in southern California.
It was a dream come true that turned into a
nightmare when the Santa Ana wins fueled uncontrollable wildfires. David
and Nicky are here to tell their story. How are
you both holding up right now?
Speaker 5 (15:48):
We're holding up. Yeah, we're in the work by the
outpour of help that is coming from the community. That
we can stay in a complete stranger's house right now,
the woman who just moved out to make room for
a family like us. So friends of friends of friends.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
It's crazy, all right, Nikki, thank you, David?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
What were you going to say?
Speaker 6 (16:15):
I'm sorry, I'm constracted by the thing. Yeah, it's it's amazing.
With being a part of all, I learned the importance
of being a part of all different types of communities,
whether it's my kids, Haabad, preschool, my work, my job,
my school, especially boy Scouts in this area. True two
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two three has been like tremendous of everyone coming together
and it's been overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Does give you hope in the wake of disaster. This
is a common story after disasters all around the world.
The people to come forward, these angels, these spiritual first
responders that come out of the woodwork and and help
and they're there for you. We saw it here in
New York after nine to eleven, the people that came
from across the country just because they wanted to do something,
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they wanted to help. If the two of you can
walk through this, and David will start with you this time,
walk through what happened when you first were Did you
get enough warning that this might happen?
Speaker 6 (17:16):
Sure? I mean, like our neighbor called me and he says,
look over the ridge. I mean we're like right on
the water in this mobile home park, and it was
just this spiraling smoke going out, you know, over the ocean.
You know, it was like nine to eleven where your
eyes moved one direction and then you just panned all
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the way across. You know, we couldn't see the fire.
My wife left immediately to go get my son at school.
I was left behind, and then it just happened very quickly.
We were a bit prepared in the sense that we
had to go bags because you were ready for like
an earthquake, we weren't thinking about a fire. And as
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for memories, I had grabbed all my hard drives and
laptops and work monitors and a bag of clothes and
that was it. And then I left and I went
through like a series of emotions where I'm on medications
because I'm also sick at a very trying time this
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past year, so it was like on the verge of crying.
We met my wife, we ate, we got to the hotel,
and then we're just literally watching it on TV. And
I was just nauseous for five hours. And it was
surreal identifying structures and especially our park going up in flames,
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along with being part of a WhatsApp group and getting
updates because many of our neighbors remained behind to try
to save their homes and to communicate with the firemen
who were helpful but were fruitless than the fire because
it just came in so quickly. And then I think
by like eleven o'clock that night, it was confirmed that
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our house was gone, and then it was sort of
the dodger went away.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I get it, David. I can't. No one can imagine
what you went through and Nikki, I'm intrigued by the fact,
and it's understandable that a mother the first thing she
thinks of is, oh, my god, I gotta go get
my child. What was it like at that school when
everybody was everybody rushing there to get their children.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Yes, it was actually a good miscommunication of my child
that I could pick them up at his school while
they would be bussed to a different campus. So I
was there early, and then other parents had waited two
and a half hours in line to pick up their
children because you know, they need to go through lists
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and are accountable for all the children. So for them
it took long. I was fairly fast. I was out
there like in an hour or two, but the others
way way longer. Everybody rushed there. Yes, the schools are
now getting together to share campuses.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
For all of us that are watching this on TV
and thinking to ourselves, oh my god, that's such a
horrible situation. What can we do? I know that both
of you volunteered during Superstorm Sandy and the aftermath of
Superstorm Sandy. I guess the best we can do is
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pray that things are going to get better. But are
there enough people now volunteering like the two of you
did to help you.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Yes, right now there are enough people. What we fear
is the long haul because this is not going to
be over in two weeks. So right now this is
new and everybody is there, and I hope people will
have the stamina to bear with us.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
When you say bear with us, what do you mean
by that, Well, there's.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
So many people this place. I don't think that everybody
will have found a place in the next month, for example,
with places to find places to hold our mail, to
collect things. A lot of people want to give things
to me, but I don't know where to put them.
I have no address, I have no house, nothing. We
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have the trunk of our car and that's full.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
Our postal, our post office burned down, our bank burned down,
our school's burned down. Everything's gone right.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Your lives are just going right. Now you have to rebuild.
By the way, we're going to post your GoFundMe on
seven to ten wor dot com. Because now that people
got to know you, I'm sure they're gonna they're gonna
they're gonna want to help and and and trust me,
I think everybody's going to join in in praying for
you at this point, and so God bless you. I
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hope things work out for you. Please keep touching. If
you need anything, call us.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Thank you so much, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
David and Nikki stuff. We will stay with the wildfires
next and talk about the effect they have on the
movie industry with Mark Malkin from Variety Magazine. That's next.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Back now to the WOOR Saturday Morning Show with Larry Minti.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
The wildfires in LA destroyed entire communities and even threatened Hollywood.
Movie production has been shut down indefinitely. Let's bring in
Mark Malkin, the senior Culture and Events editor for Variety,
before we get into it. I understand you're from Queens.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
I am from Queens. I am from Howard Beach, but
I've been living in Los Angeles since what almost twenty
one years?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Well, welcome back. Tell us what happened to Hollywood? Thank you.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
You know Hollywood right now the fires are going to
have a devastating effect on Hollywood for years to come,
you know, in the immediate the immediate future of Hollywood.
Right now, everything is pretty much shut down from the
standpoint of production. Some TV shows have gone back, but
right now Hollywood is suffering the economics, the devastation is
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pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Now we're talking we don't always think about all of
the people involved in these productions. We're talking about thousands
and thousands of people.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
Yeah, you know what, I think a lot of people see,
you know, who may not live in Los Angeles, are
not familiar with how it all works. You know, we
see the celebrities, we see the very rich and the powerful.
Yes they have suffered to the fires. But what we're
not seeing are all the people behind the scenes. Alta
Dina is a city that is full of people who
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make your TV shows, who make your movies. Who are
the drivers, the production assistance, the lighting, the you know,
the production, the catering, the craft services. These are people
who make a living day to day. They're gig workers.
They are not your movie stars who are making ten
million dollars a day. So what we're seeing right now
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is all of those people out of work, have no homes,
have nothing. This is, like I said, I can't use
this word enough devastating.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Is the industry itself doing anything for these people.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
There is so one thing about Los Angeles, and you know,
I experienced it when I was in New York for
nine to eleven. It's called resilience. Los Angeles has really
come together and said, you know what, we are going
to rebuild. We are going to come back from this.
We're going to take care of our own. You are
seeing fundraisers, donation centers all around town. You are seeing
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people like Leonardo DiCaprio donating one million dollars for relief funds.
You're seeing companies like Google, YouTube, Meta, Disney, Apple, you
names in a high tech company. They're donating millions and millions.
But what we have to realize is that right now,
cities like Alta Dina have been decimated, the palisades have
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been decimated. Is going to take years and years to rebuild.
And like nine to eleven, right now, the air quality
in Los Angeles is bad. It is toxic, it is unhealthy.
There's a lot of work to be done.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
So I know this is the least important in all
of this, this next question, but I'm sure it's in
a lot of people's minds because Hollywood has been hit
by the pandemic. It was hit by two strikes, a
writer's strike and an actor's strike, and now this and
every time that happens, production is halted and people don't
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get their shows, the movies don't come out. How long
before the recovery is to the point where production can
start again. And what are we going to feel when
we go to see our show or go to the theater.
Is there going to be nothing or just a couple
of movies that are or in a couple of shows
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that are made outside of Hollywood.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
I think, you know, I think that's a great question.
I think right now we're still literally in the midst
of the fires, we're still worrying about the Santa Ana wins,
you know, gearing up again. So I think in terms
of timing, we're just not sure this is you know,
here comes that word again, unprecedented. We don't know what
this is like. I think you know what you are
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going to see, and I think this is happening right now.
Is you're seeing a push to return filming to Los Angeles.
A lot of filming left Los Angeles for cities like Atlanta, Toronto,
to London because it was getting too expensive. I think
there's going to be a big push to say, hey,
we need to bring filming back to Los Angeles. In
terms of what movies, what TV shows are going to
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be delayed in terms of coming out and being released.
I think we still need some more time to figure
all of that out.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yeah, it would be It would be so good. It
would It would be great for the country. I know
it would be great for Hollywood and Los Angeles. If
the one thing that we think about when we think
about LA, the movie industry comes back, like you know,
it rises from the ashes and it goes back into production,
it'd be wonderful for the people of Los Angeles. But
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I think it would be a sign to the rest
of the country that they're healing and we can support them.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
Yeah, and I think that that's a really good point
in terms of showing that Los Angeles is healing and
Los Angeles is still in business. You know, we know
the Grammarys are coming up, the Oscars are coming up,
the Critics' Choice Awards are coming up, Red Carpets are
coming up, And there are some people who said, well,
maybe they're going to have to move the Grammys. Let's
say to New York Listen, I love New York. As
you mentioned, I'm from New York. But I think, you know,
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we don't want to do that. We want to show
that Los Angeles is in business. We don't want to show,
you know, Los Angeles has given up or is moving
things out. So I think it's people like you and
other people really pushing for Los Angeles. We are the
movie capital of the world, there is no doubt, the
entertainment capital of the world. And I think, you know,
there is going to be an even stronger to make
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sure that stays in place.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yeah, I certainly hope that happens, because not only it
would be good for the people that are you know
or not don't know what they're gonna do with their
lives because they've lost their jobs and they're worried about
their homes and their families, but it would be great
for Los Angeles. I think it would be a very
bold gesture. And I've heard I've read the articles too,
and an in variety about what they're going to do next.
(28:13):
I think a bold statement has to be the next
thing that Hollywood makes to show that they're back. And
I hope that happens, and I hope that that your
magazine and then your website can promote that because I
think it needs a little push.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
Yeah, And I think you know, I was even on
the phone with someone yesterday from one of the studios
and they were debating, do I have a red carper
premiere now or I don't? And it's a really big
question because listen, do people want to see the glitz
and the glamour right now? Probably not, But I do
think that event's red carpets, you know, maybe probably scaled
down red carpet show that Los Angeles is still in
(28:48):
business and that we're still here. We don't want to
we don't want to be defeated because we're not defeated.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah. Absolutely, And there's a lot of rich people at
those openings. They can all contribute and give money to
those that are suffering. Mark Malcoln, it was a pleasure
to talk to you. Welcome home kind of. He is
the Variety senior Culture and Events editor, and if you
haven't read Variety, you should. It's an important magazine to read,
especially now during these fires and Hollywood's suffering. Thanks so much, Mark.
(29:19):
That wraps up the Saturday morning show. Thanks for listening,
and thanks to producer Peter Arellano who puts the show together.
I'll be back for mentee in the morning Monday from
six to ten. Have a great rest of your weekend.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
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