02-28-25 Hour 1 of Broncos Country Tonight with Bri Maestas

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
QB carosel around here in a KOA for hosting duties.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
So happy to be back in the trio.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Over at app KOA Colorado.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Free Maystist three h three or Nick ferguson Underscore twenty five.
Tonight we have our very ownte Zach Seers, producer and
Broncos analyst Extraordinary on the show. He's gonna chat some
of the biggest defensive needs for the Denver Broncos.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
But first I want to talk about Happy Friday.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Nick.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
I'm so excited to be here. You told me to
turn up I think is what you told me to Dah,
I told you.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
I mean it is Friday.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
It's not one of those long holidays because we got
Monday off or anything like that, where it is Friday.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
You put in all that work all week long. You
gotta enjoy Friday.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
You can take Monday off if he, I guess felt
like it. I give you permission. That's don't take that.
Don't take that advice if.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
You if you want to go back to a job
on Tuesday, don't listen to I'm.

Speaker 5 (01:11):
Going to talk to Tepper right now saying I got
Monday off.

Speaker 6 (01:14):
Bre already said I could.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
I know he was listening.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Hey, good luck with it.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
I know Bri is in here with her viral Mistress
of the Dark look with her black Savage shirt on.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
So great. If you want to go to that advice,
you can go. Try to do it. But I would
advise it.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
Well, it's like that text we got last night. You know,
I think Bree could take Tepper too.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
So, oh wow, was I put into a media battle
against Dave.

Speaker 5 (01:42):
No, Well, we're going to text that said you could
take everyone on BCT except for Nick Ferguson.

Speaker 6 (01:47):
We all agreed with that.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, I would have to. I'm going down the list
right now. Although Rick Lewis just left the studio. He's
a lot taller than I am.

Speaker 6 (01:55):
Not a member of Broncos Country tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Okay, that's all right, Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up, though, Grant,
because earlier today we got into a conversation.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Nick put it out there on Twitter about.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
You know, if you could have played in the NFL,
what position would you have played? And I said linebacker
and Nick was just shocked that that could have been
my temperament. And I said, we haven't met on the
field yet, so I'm not saying I would win. I'm
saying I would lose terribly, but we could see it happen. Well.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Listen, I've seen some of those holiday flag football games
that you guys play around Thanksgiving. I think one Ryan
Airwars was in the game. Mario Tansey, who we know
was in the game, Benjamin Albright happened to play. You
were there as well, but even then you didn't seem
to be that type of intense person as though I

(02:45):
guess you described on X but more poorly Zack seekers
described because I don't know, I mean the listeners and you, Grant,
you were in prev to this back and forth conversation.
But vontez Berfect came as a for one Remistice, and.

Speaker 6 (03:02):
We know he's notorious for ending careers.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
I'm just saying, Wow.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
The karma eventually came around and ended my own careers.
I haven't been able to play for about a year.
My leg is just yeah, it's not any good, throw
it out. But I did have a gentleman try to
run straight through me. I squared up my shoulders and
he ended up on the ground, So I'll leave it
at that. I am a lot stronger than I appear.
I'm just short and stocky, and I don't know.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
I mean, do you or can you?

Speaker 4 (03:31):
DeVoe is the name of said gentlemen, so we can
honor him the correct way.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
No, no, no, no, it wasn't Ryan Edwards. He's fast, actually,
and you know, I don't want I don't want to
put him out there if he's listening what he normally does. Yes,
I implore him to text into the text line and
give me permission. It's the information's out there on Twitter, though,
so I guess it's over.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
Well.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Look, if the information is already out there on Twitter,
and you just kind of went about bringing it up
without mentioning names, and you said that he's probably listening
and he's okay, and I think he may be okay,
but bringing.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
His name up, you know, Doug Manning.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
He's a sport. He's he's such a good sport. He's
incredibly fit and athletic, and he just chose the wrong
day to try to run through me. I'm a day
a wrong day. I mean, I'm got a little bit
of a concussion from that, well, a little concussion. Vontez
perfect would be a perfect comp if he was more dangerous.
I believe that text is from Zach so Zach.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Kai, thanks for listening, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Here's the crazy part about it.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
When Zach brought it up last night when Grant and
I was we were on a Broncos country tonight. I
was just like, I can't put two to two together.
It wasn't messing. I was like, Zach, what are you
talking about? This can't be the same person I see
every time she's host.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
It is so different. And then I thought about it.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
I was like, see, I've always I was always told
as a kid, it is the quiet ones you have
to worry about.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah, so now I need to be on guard with you.

Speaker 7 (05:05):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
I think you should always be suspicious of me, just
in general, always thinking of what I'm plotting and coming
up with.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
No.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
We talked a little bit of it.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Maybe you want to get heavy on tonight's episode, we
can do that.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
But you know, as a woman, if.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
You're too spicy, too sassy, too loud, too strong, you
can make people uncomfortable. So sometimes you have to, you know,
present yourself a little bit softer and hope you don't
ruffle too many feathers and then act out in other ways.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
See that's interesting because being an African American man, all
these years i've been an African American man, I've had
someone actually say that to me when I wasn't being
abruptive at all or aggressive. I was just being passionate
about what we were talking about, and just like I fell,
and somehow they put me in that category.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
So I understand exactly what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
I think yours is a lot more. It's much different.
I love what you said. The entirety of time that
you have been, which has been your entire life, this
set up.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
To that, I'm like, I'm going to fail and lose this.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
But Nick, in the same vein you just you're told
a certain thing and your entire personality gets molded off
of that and you just you become that person that
people want to see now entering this media world of
doing radio and being in the in the public eye
of some sort, you just have to stop caring eventually.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Right, do you be you?

Speaker 1 (06:24):
But there's still that little bit of an environment and
where you're like, ah, but not too much, don't be
too much.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Well, okay, I can understand the idea of not being
too much, but you are who you are, and as
long as you're not a overaggressive, overbearing, in your face
type of individual, I think is okay, because the way
I look at it, it's a b do have the
right type of frame of mind is that if you
want to do something, first you have.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
To be that.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
You have to embody that everything about what you do
has to be that crab or that career that you
kind of aiming for. And the half part is having
confidence in yourself to know that you are able to
do because so many times in our life people are
going to tell us in society, our family, people we
work with, what we can't do, what we can't have,

(07:15):
and it's like, well, no, just because you think I
can't doesn't necessarily mean that I can't.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
So I'm not going to allow you to put.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
Your shortcomings and your limitations on me, right, So that's
kind of the idea about it. In the due part
is just going out there man, taking risk and trying
to do something that you've never done before. And like
this radio thing was something I was totally against when
I played for the Jets.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot poll.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
Right, And that had to do with the New York
media leaving a bad taste in my mouth watching them
kind of derail.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Some of my teammates and coaches.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
But I realized that when you sit in front of
this mic or you right an article, that's a certain
level of power that you have a power of influence
because people are absorbing your information. But it's all about
what you want them to take away. If you want
them to take away something negative, would you write that

(08:15):
article you said, and they're going to take it away?

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah. So I try to give a little knowledge. I
try to entertain, but I try to be as positive
as I can.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
And that is how you teach people.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
I think there's just requisitive your personality and how you
take on everything that you do, whether it's football, whether
it's radio.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
It's an effort of.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Teaching and being genuine and I think that's the moral
of the story here. So Life Lessons with Brian, Nick
and Grant has started off early here on a Friday evening,
which I'm so excited about.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
But you know who's not being.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
True to themselves to themselves the Denver Nuggets Nick Ferguson.
I don't know what what's eating them necessarily, but something
has to turn around. They obviously suffer the yuck against
Bucks following one twenty one to one twelve. They've got
a little bit of a momentum problem on the second

(09:07):
half of the season here after the All Star break, specifically,
my timeline was full of three little letter words WTFS
and mpj's strung together quite well. There there's an issue,
and it's an issue that plagues the Denver Nuggets roster
through throughout the season. I want to say, when they're
all on, you got nine dudes and they can't be stopped,

(09:30):
and then you have the m MV three soon to
be MVY four.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
That doesn't work as well, That doesn't sound as great.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
But why does Nikola Jokic not have a supporting cast
all of the time, Like there's not enough momentum and
there's not enough intensity what's missing, Well.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
The one thing that's missing from the Nugget is something
that has been missing for a large period of time
since Michael Malone has been their coach, and its defense.
And if you ever watched the Nuggets play, and obviously
there are a lot of fans who watched them play,
that's kind of the thing that is so irritating. You
know that they can play outstanding offense and to say

(10:13):
that their team philosophy is, well, our offense will be
our defense because we're going to outscore opponents on a
night a night out basis. But because remember remember right
before the All Star Break they went on that run,
but just so happens, that was against teams that were
at O below five hundred. Now they're on the East

(10:34):
Coast swing right now, and I believe right they're probably
two and one so far. Then back to back, they're
playing the Pistons up here tonight. Then after that they
rest up and then they end up the East Coast
West Coast. I mean, it's given me the East coast
trip with Boston Celtics, which is going to be a
challenge within itself. So when you watch the Nuggets play,

(10:55):
and I was talking to Grant about this, and Grant
played some basketball in high school, say, well, when you
look at what they're trying to do defensively to shut
down Yannis, because Yiannis is kind of like Lebron. They
need a long runway and they come downhill. And with
Lebron he used his size and his strength to get

(11:16):
to the bucket. But with Yanni's he is very a
very long player, so it's always kind of a euro
step and he's you know, learning to kind.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Of maneuver his body. So for me, I saw a
box in one.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
So what that means is though you got one guy
on the ball and you got all these other guys
trying to call Delane and then they ran like a
two three zone, all designed to kind of force Jannis
to stay outside on the perimeter.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
But Yannis has.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
Improved his free throw shooting and more importantly, his three
point percentage. Now he's not up there with someone like
you know, Dame Willard, but if you leave him out there,
he would make the attempt to knock down the shot.
But this is where the Nuggets have to get better
because the deeper you go into the Western Conference playoffs,
you're gonna face teams that have multiple players. They may

(12:05):
not have like a big three, but they have an
ensemble cast, and the ensemble cast is better than.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Your big two, your big three.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
However, you want to look at it, and that puts
a lot of strained strain on Nikola Jokis to be
that guy night in and night out.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
And that's tough.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
I would think it would get exhausting as your triple
doubles continue to go to waste in a sense, in
a sense of terms, does it mean that the Denver
Nuggets were wrong not to look for a trade partner
for an MPJ to get something back for him, considering
it continues to be a thorn in their side as
they look to ramp up and get wins here in

(12:44):
this back half.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
Well, okay, so if you're Calvin Booth, yeah, you look
at it and say, well, we would have loved to move
MPG and picked up someone that we feel as though
that can actually help us out. And MPJ like he's
at his moments when he's able to knock down those shots. Yeah,
And for me, he's never fallen into the flow to offense,

(13:06):
because when you play with a guy like Nikola Jokic,
you got to cut and die to the basket. He's
gonna find you because he is a point center in
my mind. But no they I guess they couldn't find
any takers because when you look at MPJ at this
stage of his career and he's still a young player,
what can you really say he is right? I mean,
we know he's a big, tall guy, he's ranging, he's athletic,

(13:29):
he can knock down the open shot. But it's too inconsistent.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
That's the word right there, Nick, that I was looking for,
because the inconsistency amongst the roster seems to be rampant
in a Jamal Murray and an MPJ and sometimes in
Aaron Gordon, where those roles are not really hitting all
at the same time. And if you got MPJA going
five for twenty two against the Bucks, that's not great
when everyone else is having a down game, But it's

(13:54):
okay if the rest of the roster is popping. They
were not turned up last night. And now we're talking
about get back game, which it just I think you
asked me about a panic button.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
On Monday, right.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
This changes the answer a little bit because now it's
becoming a recurrent theme for the Nuggets.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
And maybe I'm Debbie Downer on the.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Nuggets today because I feel like I'm taking a negative
lens on this. But we're running out of time for
a turnaround here where they stop and they actually start
stringing together some real confident wins.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
Well, I mean, look, you are sitting in Benjamin all
Bright seats, So maybe that's what it is, So that
negativity is flowing like the dark side is its flowing
through you.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
But I'll say this.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
I understand your gripe in the gripe with Nuggets fans
because once you want to tie it on, and you
know you have a guy like Nikola Jokis, you want
every game to be like a Game six or Game seven, Yes,
and you want the team to come out and perform.
But the NBA season, like the NHL, like the mL

(14:56):
based season, they are very long seasons. And I like
to think that some of the players may feel as though,
you know what, this is a long road trip. We
still got a lot of games remaining, so we're going
to put forth an effort. Well, we're not going to
maximize that particular effort.

Speaker 5 (15:12):
That's why you can't freak out about these games on
a four game road trip on the East Coast right
after the All Star break. It's such a long season,
Like you said, I mean, as long as they're staying
in that top three, top four seeding in the West,
they're going to be fine because we know what playoff
mal looks like. And if we can get the MPJ
just for some of the games in a seven game

(15:32):
playoff series like he was before the All Star break
when he was having thirty points and twelve rebounds and
a couple steals, a couple of blocks, they're going to
be fine because they have Joker who is consistent every night,
unlike some of their role players.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
That should be.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Exactly where my head is at and so great. I
feel like you need to text me when stuff like
this happens and say, listen to your break. I know
where you're going. I need you to dig yourself back
out of the hole and get back up here and
everything's going to be okay. It is a long season,
and it brings me to my next question, which Grant,
I'm gonna throw directly back to you, because I'm very
interested on where you stand on the slow.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Start for Jamal Murray.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Right, very long season takes a little bit for the
ramp up there and then you really do see a
different version of him later in the season. Is there
such a thing as too late for that sort of turnaround?

Speaker 5 (16:18):
Yeah, well, it is frustrating as a Nuggets fan to
see him when he can go off for fifty five
in one game and then shoot, you know, four of
thirteen the next game and have twelve fifteen points. It
is frustrating and it does worry you that maybe he
has lost a step or maybe he's not the same
guy we saw in the bubble or.

Speaker 6 (16:37):
During the championship run.

Speaker 5 (16:39):
But I'm still one of those, I think rare Nuggets
fans that has a lot of faith in him. When
push comes to shove, He's a gamer and when the
games really matter, he steps up, in my opinion, and.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
That's what you need guys like Jamal to turn it on. Obviously,
you want guys to be on every single night. And
I can tell you as a former athlete, you're just
not gonna have that night every single night. Some nights,
you're gonna have a great offensive performance other nights, and
that so mnths and that's where you lean on your
defensive effort to help the team out. And this is

(17:10):
where we talk about MPJ. This is where he can
be somewhat of a game changer. Anytime your shot is
not falling and it's gonna happen, you.

Speaker 8 (17:21):
Still are allowed to play defense. You gotta find ways
to contribute to the team. And the reason why I'm
not panicking because watching the game last night, it was
almost like watching that game when they played the LA Lakers.
The whole energery in the arena was just like a
Game seven. And you gotta think when teams playing the

(17:41):
Dinver Nuggets, they're looking and say, well, you got the
best player.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
In the NBA.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
We're gonna elevate all ever play every single night.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
And then you look at what Russell Wes Restbrook was
able to.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
Do, right, I mean getting them out of transition, getting boards,
getting those second chance buckets, but also the energy that
he supplied. So for me, things are gonna come down
the line for the Nuggets. I like what I'm seeing
between Westbrook and Nikola Jokie. It was one point in
the game, you know the Westbrook was a plus eleven

(18:14):
or the Nuggets were plus eleven with Westbrook on on
the court. To me, that's that you're building upon that
the problem is and why I feel as though they
lost that game. Their defense just slipped down the stretch.
They just slipped down the stretch and that and that happened.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
So I'm not in that boat.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
Free of hitting the panic button, I will say okay, well,
I will hit a button and saying okay, well, here
are a couple of things that are causes for concern.
And when they play Boston on Sunday, yep, that's gonna
be really big. That's gonna tell me mentally how they
bounce back because Boston's gonna be.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
There in the end. They are.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
And I just I caution the idea that the Bucks
were a great team.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
I think they were a good team.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
But again, if you've got twenty three, twenty five games.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Left to figure out your playoff rotation, the.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Denver Nuggets still have time to do so just who's
involved in that.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
I still believe MPG is going to be involved in that.
He's going to find himself.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
It's just right now, as you look on it and
you're reflecting on it, it's getting a little too close
for comfort. I think that's where I am as a
Nuggets fan. If you have different opinions, you can text
us five six six nine zero.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Do you agree with me? Do you agree with Nick
and Grant?

Speaker 1 (19:22):
I think the optimism is good for me today, and
I'm glad you pointed out that it is just an
energy that is a fusing off of me given the
seat that I'm in sair. Yeah, we're going to have
to sage it here in a little bit.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
I'll take care of that, make sure all the bad
juju is gone. But we'll also switch gears here a
little bit.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
At is Combine Week, we're doing the Human Stock show
down in Indie and our very own right Edwards and
Benjamin Albright, we're down there. QB one and a potential
weapon for the Broncos and von Nicks offense spoke to
the media at the Combine. We'll hear those comments later
on and I'll ask Nick whether or not the Broncos
might consider drafting one of them. And then we'll have
Zach seers on later on in the evening to talk

(19:59):
about his potential weapons are for the defense for the
Denver Broncos. That's all here on Broncos Country Night KOA
eight fifty ninety four to one f M.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
And I don't know.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
If Grant actually realized this, like where Brie is sitting.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Which is in kind of the corner.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
Right, since you know, look around this room, Brandt, you
notice something very unique.

Speaker 6 (20:24):
Let's see if you pick it up first looking around
the room.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yes, look around his room and tell me what is it?
You notice?

Speaker 2 (20:30):
I'm worried now.

Speaker 5 (20:31):
I noticed that you are wearing your British gang hut.
I noticed that Bri is in her usual colors, which
are black.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
Now, great observation, observation, But there's something else that you
are missing.

Speaker 8 (20:46):
Right.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
I walked in the studio.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
Every section of this room has a light on it
except for one.

Speaker 6 (20:53):
You're right, yes.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
And it's blacked out. And I am in the corner
where no light can be.

Speaker 6 (21:00):
That's because Benjamin Albright was there from three to six.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
The lights are too bright, they're too warm, and they're
too in my eyes and they hurt my sensibilities and
I like it dark. Okay, we've gone over this. I
couldn't tell you even if I was. But have you
seen me in the daytime? Okay, yeah, at training camp.

(21:25):
I'm just walking around with an umbrella. My skin sparkles
in the light.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
All right, Well, you know who else is in the
spotlight this week is all the.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Prime prospects out of the Human Stock Show, which is
the NFL scouting combine. An interesting one though we got
some audio from Tess Johnson had to say this on
what the Denver Broncos quarterback but Nicks means to him.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
He's my brother.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
You mean everything to me.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
Bo.

Speaker 9 (21:49):
It's definitely one of those guys that I look up
to still to this day because he's been doing it
for so long and I've been trying to mimic his
game even though he's a quarterback. But like just how
you he treats people, how you respect people and talk
and prepare her stuff for Easton every day.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
So he definitely mean a lot to me.

Speaker 9 (22:06):
I'm pretty sure everybody here knows, like what it feels
like when if I get my name called by the Broncos,
but I wouldn't have played for any team in the league.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Well, that gave me the warm and fuzzies Nick with
the Broncos draft at test. Johnson not specifically for the
relationship that he stated there, although now I feel like
it's destined to happen given the storyline.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
Well, I'll say this, there is always a strong possibility
and familiarity is very key in this game, granted and
I talked about it the other night. I mean, there's
already Oregon wide receiver on the Broncos roster right now,
and adding someone else who actually grew up with bo
and there is somewhat of a connection is really important.

(22:49):
I mean last season, I got a chance to talk
to Boonik's dad, and I remember seeing the story of
Ted Johnson and what went on with the Knicks family
and how they took him in, and I told him
and I had to find him, I told him, I said,
after watching that, because I had never seen it before,
I was hoping that he was at the game so

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I could find him.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
And I found him on the sideline.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
I went right to him and I just thank him
because obviously I don't know him, but it was the
story that connected me to him through TZ because there's
so many kids that grew up in my inner City
neighborhood that were like TEDZ Johnson.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Now, my mom was there for me, so that kind
of helped me.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
But a lot of those kids didn't have that big
mam as we would call the grandma.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
They didn't have that dad.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
They didn't have that mom because we're talking about an
area with crime and drugs. But to know that the
Knicks family extended their hospitality out to Ted Johnson when
they didn't have to, and looking at how that changed
his life, I'm hoping that there is a possibility that
those two guys get an opportunity because it's not just

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a great story, but it is a story of perseverance
and how we all have an opportunity and an obligation to
look out for one another.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
That's how I see that story.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
But I know most people when they think about Tez Breath,
they say, well, he's one hundred and sixty five pounds,
so can win. So there's no way that he's going
to be a productive member in the NFL. Well, DeVante Smith,
who just won a Super Bowl with the Philadelphia Eagles.
I mean he's a little bigger, but I mean they

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said the same thing about him. So for me, give
guys an opportunity to go out and show that they
can play, and don't short change them by slapping negative
tags on them before they even get a chance to
really show you what they can do.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
I think he weighed in even less than that one
sixty five too, So I think it's just appropriate.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
I'll take the underhunt that.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
And then also, yeah, be a slim receiver out there.
You're being matched up against very large defensive backs, which Nick,
during your playing days, I think you could attest to
this that it would be a little bit of a
worrisome match up there. But you're do you have concerns
about being somewhat undersized there for Tess Johnson or do

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you think you know the fight, the character, all of
those things will no pun intended outweigh that.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Yeah, I believe.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
I truly believe that because the reason I say that
is because when I came in the league I was
viewed as being a little undersized, and especially when I
was moved to the safety position. But the one thing
that they don't have at the COMEBA, they don't have
something that measures a guy's competitive drive, nothing that measures that.
Athletes hard because they've been small all their life. All

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their life they've been small, so they've had to persevere
and overcome that. I guess stature standpoint, but they learn
to push through and persevere. And that's not to say
that well every person that is a very large man,
well that person should be a basketball player, UFC fighter
or a football player, because I've seen some really tall

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and well to do fit the size guys right, they
have all the measuraboost, but they're not made up of
the right stuff, right, and they softening dug and Hines.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
So when we look at Tad Johnson, we can't say
the kid is soft, right.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
He knows he's small, but he goes out there and
he plays much larger than what he is. So if
you don't put stipulations negative stipulations on guys that side,
let's start doing the two guys we know who are
very large six six six whatever they softened pillow cushion.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
Well.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
I think also what I wanted to point to as
being very important when it comes to this conversation with
a Test Johnson and Bonnicks reunion, it's family, Nick, and
nothing's more important than family. And I hope you're getting
that reference to Monday Show where we were talking about
the Fast and Furious franchise. So I want to tie
that all in together because I feel like that is

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above all else.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
It is very important.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
And I just love that you speak to the heart
and the character of these individuals because so often.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
During the combine.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
It comes down to measurables and there's things outside of
you know, length of your hand and how high you
can jump. Although there was a tremendous amount of standouts
that we watched and have watched all week, it's not
over yet. It goes through Sunday. You'll see the offensive
Lineman on Sunday. Today was DB's all, DB's all the time? Nick,
Were you able to watch some of those forty times today?

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My eyes were glued to the NFL Network today.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
Well, you know what, I didn't see every guy, but
there were some guys that ran some fast forties as expected,
but very fast. I mean, that's kind of become the
spectacle of what the NFL combine has been because remember,
let's go back maybe ten or twelve years, they didn't
allow fans and the stands.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Now they do. So the players on.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
The field, you have NFL Network, that's there, you have
all thirty two teams represented, but then you have fans
in the stands.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
The other thing that they're doing.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
This year that I've never seen them do before they
are playing music while these drills are going on.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah, I thought that was different and weird because as
you're trying to perform, right, all this pressure is on
you and you've got maybe a song that doesn't enlighten
or motivate you much going on in the background, which
I know when you're on that stage you have to
block it out. But it's just a different feel.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
It is definitely a different feel.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
But I will say this from the music I was
hearing when I was watching, it was all updated type
of music that those players actually know. Yeah, so even
though it's a competitive environment it is stressful as hell,
the music was able to what I saw relax some
of the guys because they were used to that music,

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hearing it all the time and probably listening to it
before games.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Yeah, probably it wasn't any Tom Petty out there.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Well, we'll talk more about a ton of confidence going
into the draft process, especially from QB One. The Colorado Buffalo,
had lots to say during his media appearance. It actually
makes me think of the other day when you texted
me and said, you know what, this is a song
from one of my favorite movies, and I think that
you would like it and you would appreciate it, and
you sent me a song, Nick, Do you remember what
song you sent me?

Speaker 3 (29:18):
What song was? It.

Speaker 5 (29:20):
It was let Me Guess a Thousand Miles by Vanessa
No It.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
It was from The Lost Boys Boy Yes, which is
one of my favorite movies ever.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
And he sent me cry Little Sister, which is one
of my favorite songs ever, and I was like, you
know what, Nick, you are one hundred percent right. I
would enjoy that song, So thank you very much. But
that's not the only thing I listened to. Matt likes
to call it my sad goth witch stuff, and he like, just.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Like bad god witch stuff.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
But it's not the only genre I listened to. I'm
very robust. My catalog is robust. I am a what
would you even? What is the word I'm looking for?

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Not in a nigma uh centric, eclectic, eccentric and that's
not the word I was looking for. But also maybe
that a little bit as we sit here in the
studio anyway, I've divulged it a little too much about
myself this evening on Broncos Country tonight, but we'll get
back into it. We wanted to talk some more drafts,
more combine, and some more confidence. We were talking about

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confidence on the breakoff air, so let's talk about confidence
here during the combine sure. Sanders was very confident in
his reasons why teams should draft him.

Speaker 7 (30:27):
If you ain't trying to change the franchise or a coach,
that don't give me. So you should know history repeats
itself over and over and over, and I've done it
over and over and over, so it should be no
question why NFL franchise should pick me. You think I'm
worry about what critics say or what people got to say.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
You know who my dad is. They hated on.

Speaker 7 (30:46):
Him too, so it's like it's almost normal without people hating.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
It's not normal for us. So we like the adversity.
We like everything that comes with the name. That's why
we are.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Who we are, everything that comes with the name, that
being Sanders. But I can almost see him up there
with the wand flash and while he's saying all of that,
whether it was figuratively or just.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
A symbolism, I nick your take on that.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
I loved it. I mean, listen, there have been whispers
coming into.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
The combine how some scouts view s your door that
he is more about himself, flashing the watch and his
rap career.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
Than he is about football.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
And I'll say to those individuals, how did you come
to that assumption. And in life, there are more people
who are certain about who they are than other people.
And just because they showcase that, that's not something wrong
with it.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Because when we look at.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
Certain positions, and we look at these positions as far
as leadership, rose linebackers, quarterbacks, you want a guy to
be a leader on the field.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
You don't want that guy.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
To be quiet, but you also want that guy to
play with a certain level of fire where he can
back it up.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
And when you look at your doors, your.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
Door has backed it up every where he's been.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Think about it.

Speaker 6 (32:01):
He played for his father, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
Right, I mean, which is not an easy task, knowing
his father as a Hall of Famer. And then he
went to Jackson State, and then he put up numbers
at Jackson State. And then when his father came to
see you, it was like, well, well both he and
his father, they're not gonna do well. First four games
of their first year was great, then they kind of
tapered off.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
In that second year it was great. They went to
a bowl game. Even they lost, but they went to
a bowl game. So to ask your door to.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
Be somewhat other than who he is, you're asking and
you're barking up the wrong tree. But I like the
fact that any player, especially at the quarterback position, to
play and have somewhat a confidence type of attitude. Notice
I didn't say cocky, I say confidence because.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
There's a raisor thin line between those two things.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Do you pepper on healthy arrogance in that conversation, like
you throw those out there. It's not a bad thing, right,
It's about being genuine, being yourself. Having that so sort
of personality is who you are, at the bottom of
who you are.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
But I also love that that's what they present.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
It's what Shaudor presents, It's what Dion has presented his
entire career. It's that larger than life personality, and that's
what you bring to a NFL scouting combine that maybe
sort of lacks that type of personality, and that's sort
of just ingrained, like I know who I am and
you're gonna learn today exactly what you're going to be

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getting if you were to draft me. That's what I
respect the most out of Shador Sanders doing so. And
we know he's not throwing. I know Travis Hunter is
gonna be waiting. They're both gonna be waiting until a
pro day's there for Colorado in order to showcase their stuff,
but it'd be interesting to see what comes out of that,
including whether or not the Broncos are targeting an individual
who could play both ways, which there obviously will not
be in picking range of a Travis Hunter. But Zach

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Seekers is up next with the biggest needs for the
Broncos defense. There's must haves and he needs in a
few positions where they'll want to.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Tackle heading on to the twenty twenty five season. That's
after the break.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
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