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September 1, 2024 14 mins
The O' Jays once said "They smile in your face, all they time they wanna take your place The back stabbers (back stabbers)." .How do you deal with those one sided relatonships? Those relatonships where your friend or partner hates on you or finds fault in your accomlishments? Patty and the crew discuss. 
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
When you have bound us the podcast conversation Patty and
the Millennials, where me the baby boomer has great conversation
with gen Z, gen X millennials and I guess that's
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(00:40):
joining us. She has the fabulous book Optimists Always Win. Kim,
Can you be friends with someone who is secretly jealous
of you? Or be in a relationship with a person
who doesn't support you? And there's that underlying tone. Is
it possible going to be friends with someone like that

(01:02):
or be involved?

Speaker 3 (01:05):
I was and in my past and it.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
Is, but only short term.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
It doesn't last long term. It creates a strain on
the relationships and it's just not healthy. And we are
we need to have healthy relationships that encourage and support
each other.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
We've got Daja Memore, We've got Jacolate Divinity, LaToya Charleston.
The podcast conversation Patty and the millennials. Hey, ladies, hy
he let's get started. Let's get started with friendships and
relationships and jealousy. It could be a toxic situation. Can

(01:54):
you be friends with someone who is jealous of you
or be in a relation it's someone who is jealous
of you? Days you will start with you.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
No and no on both. And I had I had
that situation with.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
A close friend and the ex it was horrible.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
It's a horrible thing.

Speaker 5 (02:13):
So absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
What about friends? You relationships with friends underhanded? Yeah, it's
very It makes it very hard.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
It builds up and it doesn't last.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
Then it's a big explosion and it's just not good.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
And just sit there and you'll take it and you'll
try to, like, you know.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
Get people the benefits of the doubt, but the jealousy
is always going.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
To be there.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Toya, Oh, these are you absolutely right about that because we.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
Know these people.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
We all have had them in our lives. Where time
goes on and you can hear.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
A little snod comment and it's always.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
Hell like said in jest.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
But they always say be careful of the comments.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
That are said in jest, because that's how they truly
feel about you.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
So anytime somebody's like, oh, what's that little thing you
got going on?

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Baby? These are all and traits of jealousy.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
And as time goes on, it is.

Speaker 6 (03:03):
Imperative to cut these relationships off because they will do
nothing but hinder your growth.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
This is the podcast conversation Patty and the Millennials. Can
you be friends with someone who is secretly jealous of
you or outright jealous of you? They're competing with you?
Have you ever been in a relationship where they don't
kind of big up your success and they're reasonful because
of the choices that they made in their lives. Just

(03:34):
had to get that off my chest. We've got Lexi,
We've got Desi ladies. Hello, We're going to start with
you Lexi. Can you be friends with someone and you
know that they're jealous of you? Underhanded remarks, just you know, negativity.

(03:59):
They can never sell break your wins? I think no.

Speaker 7 (04:04):
And as much as you know you may try to
maintain that friendship and relationship, it's no, you can't because
you're gonna always be wondering if what they're doing is
you know, if they're being disingenuine, You're going to always
be concerned about them truly wanting to support you, and
then after a while that's going to turn into resentment

(04:25):
and you're going to be disingenuine as a friend too.
So I think it's very difficult, probably and impossible, not likely,
to be friends with someone who is jealous of you.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Now if they're in a season, because.

Speaker 7 (04:38):
I do know that sometimes we can be in like
envious or jealous season sometimes, And so if they're in
a season and you can try to storm it through
with them, because relationships have these different things, then you
can try to navigate it that way. But if they
are just in this perpetual state of jealousy, hatred and
all of that, no, you cannot.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
How about being in a real relationship.

Speaker 7 (05:02):
Absolutely no, absolutely not, because same thing. I feel like
it's going to be in a it's going to be
a point where you're not going to be able to
be happy for this person and it's going to negatively
affect your relationship. And so what was once like a
relationship built on or should be built on like love
and support is going to just be sheerly built on.

(05:22):
Even if they look like it's support, it's like, well,
I'm just doing this because I feel like I have to,
but I'm not really happy for you.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Mm DESI your thoughts. Have you ever been in a relationship?
They couldn't big you up, They couldn't, you know, like,
really support you, and you just walk away sayd damn listen.

Speaker 6 (05:43):
I think that all of us have been in that place.
But when we find out, it's about what you do
when you find out. So when you find out that information,
whether you stay or not, like just said, then you
are operating as a disingenuine person. You are not operating
in the integrity. But let me tell you why. I
feel like it's and know for you to even link
up with that kind of person. I believe that iron

(06:03):
sharp is iron. So my friendships are not friendships anymore.
At forty six, it's about covenant. It's about the proper alignment,
and so I need my friends to sharpen my irons.
A person who is jealous of you is going to
do the complete opposite. They're gonna be like, no girls,
nooke that way, no girl's drink that drink, No girl
be with that man who.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Ain't good for you.

Speaker 6 (06:21):
They're not going to make sure right that you were
doing the things that you need to do to get
to the next level. So if you're not sharpening my iron,
you're pulling me back so that I can now you
can now be my enabler. So at this stage in life,
we can't afford to have jealous friends because we will
never propel forward.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
I'm so interested to hear this from a male perspective.
Legendary broadcaster Uncle Oh is joining us. And here's the question.
Can you be friends with someone who is jealous of you,
whether it's outright, whether it's there secretly jealous of you?
Can you be friends with that person.

Speaker 8 (07:02):
That you would be playing a dangerous game to be
friends with someone.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Jealous of you know why? Because everything you do they're
gonna sabotage.

Speaker 8 (07:12):
They're gonna find something wrong in every single.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Thing you do, no matter what it is.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
And then you probably already have that now.

Speaker 8 (07:21):
You just don't know that they.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Secretly are jealous of you or envious of you.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
But you hear them in their conversation and you just
pay it no mind.

Speaker 8 (07:30):
You just think they're negative, No, they don't like you.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Is it hard when you first realize it, It's like
someone stabs you in the back, right but then you
turn around and see who stabbed you, and it's like,
oh my gosh, it's you.

Speaker 8 (07:46):
No, I know, I'm never surprised because I expect everyone
to be who they are. And if you expect people
to be who they are, you're never surprised or disappointed
by the actions they take.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
I like how you put that. I really like how
you put that. And that's saying when a person shows
you who they are, you must pay attention.

Speaker 8 (08:15):
Well, the other thing is you don't even have to
let them show you who they are. You already, If
you already, I expect you to fail me. And so
if I do, I'm not disappointed when it happens. So
you never even have to worry about them showing who
they are. It's because you're never disappointed. You already expect
them to do it in the first place.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Welcome to the Conversation podcast. Conversation Patty and the Millennials
and Patty Jackson. We're talking about can you be friends
with someone who is jealous of you? Hey, this is
something we've all had to whether it's an outright jealousy
with underhanded comments, or they seek good about it. It's

(09:01):
like someone stabs you in back. You turn around to
your shock and you like, it's you who dabb me,
We've got gen Z in the building, and then referee saying, you, guys,
we've got Rehyes Green. He is a senior at Saint
Joe's University. In your young experiences, can you be friends
with someone who's jealous of you or maybe they keep

(09:24):
competing with you?

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (09:27):
No, that you actually can't in my opinion, because people
like that they're always going to find moments just to
backstab you. You know, that jealousy in that interview that
can really drive them to where you know, you may
be showing off your achievements and like wanting them to
like congratulate you stuff like that, but you know it's
not them celebrating you. They're just clapping just just to

(09:49):
show you that, but in reality, they're already finding ten
steps ahead of you, just finding ways to tear you
down and really praying your downfall. And it's people like
that that negative energy You can feed all for that,
and it's just not healthy.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Is it possible to be friends with someone who is
jealous of you? Have you ever been in a relationship
but the partner doesn't support you and it's jealous of you,
and you're like, really you feel We've got blogger Whitney Roberts,
and she's first. Whitney, tell everybody your new position, because
she's got an exciting position and she's got it going

(10:25):
on your position.

Speaker 9 (10:27):
I am the senior editor of the Philly Download. We
are a black publication that centers and amplifies the voices
of black young Philadelphians.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
So yes, that's my new position.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yes. Can you be friends with someone who is jealous
of you, either secretly they're like competing with you or
outward because I really pay attention to backhanded compliments. Mmm,
I do, And.

Speaker 9 (10:57):
Yeah, I feel you. I feel you because like there's
a lot of truth in the just this, a lot
of truth in the jokes, and it reveals a lot
more about what's going on in their heart than what's
going on you know what they say.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
But honestly, I can't.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
I can't.

Speaker 9 (11:14):
Like, if y'all call you my friend, that means you're
close to me, that means that you're in you're in
the intersections of where you know my goodness, And like,
the things I don't necessarily like about myself are the
things I'm working on about myself.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
You're in that intersection.

Speaker 9 (11:27):
So if I call you friend and then I find
out that you're jealous about jealous about something that I have,
or jealous about something about me, no we can't be friends.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
MM.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Have you ever been in a relationship when you didn't
have a supportive partner? My, my, my.

Speaker 9 (11:43):
That will take episodes to discuss, but yes, I've been
in that type of relationship. And let me tell you something.
There is something to be said about a person.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Who is loved well. When you're loved well.

Speaker 9 (11:56):
When people love you at the point of where you are,
that gives you the energy to go so far. But
when you have the opposite of that, where the person
is constantly trying to put you in a place, put
you in your place or their perceived place of where
you belong, and not of where you know your life
or your trajectory or where your faith is taking you,
then that is toxic and that is poison. Let me

(12:18):
tell you, as a person who was in that type
of relationship, you need to get out right away.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Can you be friends with someone who either outrightly don't
like you, you know, is jealous of you, or even
if they're kind of like sneaky with it with the
underhanded comments, decks who puts all of this podcast together?
Is it possible to be friends with someone like that?

(12:44):
Or do you keep them at a distance? So friends?

Speaker 3 (12:49):
No? Like?

Speaker 4 (12:50):
But there's when I in the industry of radio, there's
like so many people who I consider like quote unquote
industry friends who like, I know you don't really like me.
I don't really care for you like that either, but
like we're cool, like we'll like each other's post on Instagram.
But like, I know, I don't trust you. I can't
trust you, and I know that you will talk about
me like a dog as soon as as soon as

(13:11):
I walk away from you.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Come, I know, how come I know exactly who you're
talking about? See, I can't Scorpio says, stay away from me.
We don't, we don't do each other, so just just
just stay over there.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
But it's just such a bizarre thing. It's so weird too.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
It's weird. But why do you think people feel the
need to compete? What is that? I think that a.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
Lot of it is unhappiness in their own life. And
I think I will say this, I think a lot
of it, like I learned this in college of like,
things are so much better when we work together. And
I went to make a university, so it was like
a small communications department, and all the people just seem
to work together and want to push each other. And
because of that, so many of us got like opportunities

(13:58):
that I don't think we would have gotten other wors
And I think I have that mindset because of that school.
But a lot of people were raised to compete, like
they're raised to be like there can only be one.
You got to be the only one. And like, when
you are raised like that and you go through life
with that mindset, you think you're the only person that
is supposed to eat and everybody else is supposed to start.

Speaker 5 (14:17):
And I just don't.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
I don't live like that.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
I love a great conversation. This is the podcast conversation
Patty and the Millennials. As I said, dex foots everything together.
You can find this where we live Pandora in SoundCloud
and iHeartRadio podcasts, Apple podcast and Spotify. Find this where
we live great conversation and let us know what you

(14:43):
think about the podcast. Thanks for joining us. I'm Patty Jackson.
This is Patty and the millennials,
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