November 5, 2024 • 19 mins
We all know someone who is all about self, lack empathy and thinks they're superior to others. We call them narcissist! How do you deal with these individuals? How do you avoid them? Do you have these traits yourself? Patty and the crew discuss!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Whether it's life, relationships, politics, or current events, nothing is
off limits. This is the Patty and the Millennials podcast,
powered by ACME Markets, helping to bridge the gap between
baby boomers, gen X and millennials.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome, you want good conversation, you found it. This is
the podcast Patty and the Millennials. I'm Patty Jackson. I'm
a radio vet in Philadelphia and I gather the gen zs,
the gen X, the millennials, men, women to have great conversation.
And today we're talking about people who are narcissistic.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Does that mean?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
This triggered me because Nick Cannon admitted he's a narcissist.
All these kids, all these different women, It's like, what
is going on? A narcissist? They basically lack empathy. They're selfish,
they think holly of themselves. Kicking off the podcasts, We've
(00:59):
got doctor Heather Richards. She's a real sexologist. And how
do you deal in your practice with your clients? Do
you deal with a lot of narcissistic people?
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Oh my gosh, hey Patty, Yes I do.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
This is a good topic because over the past few years,
narcissistic personality disorder has been trending right, people kind of
use it and.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
Say, oh, they're a narcissist.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
So I do you know people have been coming to
me in search of wondering why they're a narcissists or
if they are a narcissist?
Speaker 7 (01:40):
Right.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
I mean, to get this diagnosis, you have to have
all of the presenting issues that you just said, right.
But you know, Patty, I got to tell you a
lot of it is from parent child relationships. You know,
did you know like the causes of narcis statistic personality disorder,
(02:02):
The number one thing is parent child relationships. You either
adore your kid too much, right, or you're criticizing them
too much, and it just doesn't match what the child's
actual experience is.
Speaker 8 (02:15):
So you know, when.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
People come to me, they're like, what's wrong with me?
Why don't I have empathy? But some of that, too, unfortunately,
comes along with too much drinking. They're alcoholics, So narcissistic
personality disorder and alcoholism don't match. You know, you're definitely
don't have empathy. What comes with no empathy? You see
that today and our people being raised, like, look at
(02:38):
the twenty somethings, what do you think do you think
they have empathy, Patty.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
No, no, no, it's.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Like y'all different. And that's what I say. I walk around,
I have a twenty something in my house.
Speaker 9 (02:54):
And the empathy is different.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
It is, it really is. It's only about them. Yes,
my son told me that I am obsessed with the trash. Well,
I don't like a trash can overflowing. You see, it's overflowing.
Put it and put it up so we can go
(03:17):
in the trash. We're not missing the trash because they.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Come early on Monday morning.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
So I am I am a stickler about I want
trash cans by the curb.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
On Sunday night.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
And when I come home from work, I want to
see them trash cans right out there.
Speaker 10 (03:40):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
And some of it is genetics too, so it's not
all that right. Some of is your environment and then
it's genetics characteristics that way too. So hopefully people will
get some help and figure it out.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Dexter is joining us.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
This is the podcast Patty and the Millennials, and we're
gonna talk about people who are narcissistic. They lack empathy.
We all know people like this. They act superior, like
I'm better than you, and they're selfish and they're draining decks.
(04:16):
Have you ever encountered a narcissistic.
Speaker 8 (04:21):
Person, you know, to be honest with you, I used
to always. I remember getting broken up with one time
and the girl said, you're the most narcissistic person I've
ever met in my life, and I like took it
up as a badge of honor. I was like, Oh,
that's so cool. And then like as I've gotten older
and I really realized what that means and what that is,
(04:41):
I'm like, that is the most insulting thing to say
about a person, Like you have to be really on
one to be called narcissistic, Like that is not a compliment,
It is not a badge of honor. It is the
most disturbing thing. And I've come across a lot of
those people in real life and they're not fun to
be around.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Do you think it's worse with social media? Yes?
Speaker 8 (05:06):
I do two things.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Though.
Speaker 8 (05:08):
I think it is worse for social media. I think
people feel like they have to play this role almost
and they become a narcissist on social media, even if
they're not like that in real life. They just become
that because of how they post, of what they say,
and then on the flip side of it, I feel
like people see how well people are doing and see people,
you know, like celebrating themselves and whatnot, and they throw
(05:31):
that label on them too. I feel like we label
people narcissistic way more than they actually are as well.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Dealing with a narcissist.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
A person who has a narcissistic take, that's how they are.
They think highly of themselves, they lack empathy, and basically
they can be a pain in the ass.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
We got chocolate Dvinni LaToya Charleston.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I mean, that's the only way that I can put up.
How do you deal with the person? They're just selfish?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
You don't that.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
I will say this time and time again to people.
It is very hard because you know, you're used to
having like certain people in your life, and especially if
they've kind of always been there, it's hard to make
that cut. But it is imperative to start creating distance
from these people because they will take over like a
cancer in your own life. Like it's nothing wrong with
(06:33):
you know, feeling good about yourself, and everybody should feel
great about yourself, But when it becomes the level of
you see nothing outside of yourself or like you said,
no empathy. You can be going through stuff, but it's
like when other people are it's just like, oh well
what about me? I need you right now. It's like
it can turn into very dangerous territory, especially because most
(06:58):
of these people are training on your life. So the
best thing to do child them narcissists come running up,
you better step on that from them, you stay over there.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
He's an entrepreneur, he's a very funny comedian. And we've
got Derek Lee joining us today. We are talking about
narcissistic people. We know these people, Derek, they're amongst us.
How do you deal with a verse And like, have
you ever had someone say to you, well, you ain't
(07:32):
calling me?
Speaker 9 (07:33):
Like the phone?
Speaker 3 (07:34):
The phone works both ways.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
Those people are very dangerous. They don't know that they're narcissistic.
They don't know that they have issues because you can't
tell them anything. Everything is always somebody else's fault. It's
always somebody else's issue. They don't know that they have
issues within themselves.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
And we've got I always call it the Everything Woman
Relative road cast stare social media personality. Her page is
popping most Shanelin Renn is joining us and mo. People
who have narcissistic tendencies, people who wear you out. We
(08:22):
all know this person, we do how do you deal
with How do you deal with people like that? I
think as you get older, you learn how to, I
don't know, breakaway.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Yeah, but it's hard because first of all, let's just
talk about the fact that this whole word narcissism, narcissistic
personality and all that stuff that is today years old,
because when you think about it, twenty years ago, you
didn't really hear this word being thrown away around the
way it is the stage I think we've become a
(09:02):
more emotionally intellectual society and that we're now able to
give language to personalities and characteristics and things like that,
because I never heard the word narcissism until to be
honest with you, I've really never heard the word narcissism
until that man became president and then they started throwing
this word around. Then I'm starting to look at the
(09:23):
beeta the characteristics of what a narcissistm is, and I'm like, damn,
I'm sleeping with one.
Speaker 10 (09:29):
Oh shoot.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
And then I'm like, wow, now I really understand what
it looks like. And now it's become a buzzword, just
like gaslighting. And people who are narcissistic are so deep
into themselves, Paddy, they don't even know that that's who
they are and what they are. It's the receivers. The
people on the receiving end of the narcissism are the
(09:53):
ones that are able to clearly identify who and what
they're dealing with. You know what I mean? And yeah,
I was once or ten years so I know them
very well.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Author Kim Reid is joining us when our podcast Patty
and the Millennials and today, Kim, we're talking about narcissistic people.
I think as you get older, you learn to like separate,
you know, people they really think kylie of themselves. They
don't lack empathy, they're selfish, and then they will make
(10:27):
you feel guilty like, well you haven't called me, Well,
if you miss me that much, and you would have
called me. But it's kind of like they play on
your I don't know your feelings, how you are.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
How do you deal with a narcissistic person?
Speaker 10 (10:47):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Oh, okay, okay.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
You know.
Speaker 9 (10:52):
And here's here's why I say that I have in
the past, I've dealt with a few, and I've learned
my lesson because of all the characteristics and behaviors that
you just described, and there's a whole there's a whole
host of other behaviors that are really detrimental to their victims.
(11:20):
And it's funny because most narcissists don't deviate from their script.
And people tell you all the time the best way
to deal with a narcissist is to not and I
really realize that in my in my you know, in
my fifty two years of living, especially the last four years,
(11:43):
that that is so true. Narcissists, you know, are also insecure,
very charismatic, and you know, most of their victims are
people who are loving, who are who look at life,
(12:06):
you know, look at life with the glass hasfle And
it's unfortunate because every narcissist that I know has caused
colossal damage in every person that they've touched. And that's
a very loan, that's a very hard pill to swallow
(12:28):
for many. So I say, the short answer, Patty, is
I don't because I've learned my very very hard lessons.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I think any of us that have dealt with a
narcissistic person have learned that lesson and has moved on.
Speaker 9 (12:48):
Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Dealing with a person who has a narcissistic personality, it
can be difficult. We've got legendary broadcaster uncle Oh. How
do you deal with a person who's like that? They're selfish,
they only think about themselves. They're trying to make you
feel guilty for their nonsense.
Speaker 11 (13:10):
You know, I deal with them by not dealing with them.
Imagine you're in a relationship with someone who's like that, right,
how do you handle someone who's a narcissist and you're
in a relationship with them and you're constantly wrong?
Speaker 8 (13:24):
They're never wrong, and.
Speaker 11 (13:25):
They gassed like you, you know, with their narcissism. I
don't deal with them by not dealing with them. You know,
you don't have to respond. You can just look and
that'll be enough to deal with them.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Do you think when you're younger and you may find
yourself in a situation like this, that you learn from it.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
So when you get older and they you know, some
people don't learn nothing.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
But if you're lucky, you learn from these experiences.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
But I don't think you learn.
Speaker 9 (13:57):
When you're young.
Speaker 11 (13:58):
I think a lot of times what you learn here's
the thing. I think you learn, but you don't apply
what you learn, And a lot of times you don't
apply what you learn when you're young until you're older,
and that's how you learn to handle or deal with
I think sometimes the best way to deal with things
is to not deal with it.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I like that because as you get older, you have
to learn from the things that you may have done
in your youth.
Speaker 11 (14:27):
Right, everything that every response, everything that happens to you,
doesn't deserve a response, or don't have to respond. You know,
a fire takes fuel, and if you keep on throwing
fuel on it, then what you think is going to happen.
So the best way to respond is to not respond.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Dealing with a person who has a narcissist attitude, oh,
they think highly of themselves, but they lack empathy. They're superior,
they're selfish, they're annoying, and when you get older, you
learn and how to weed those people out. Hopefully we've
(15:03):
got doi Neil here does he how do you deal with.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
A person who's a narcissist?
Speaker 5 (15:11):
You know what, Auntie, I love the fact that we
are talking about this because in.
Speaker 9 (15:15):
This day and age, I'm seeing.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Such a high amnon of narcissists because people are trying
to pump themselves up to feel better about themselves.
Speaker 9 (15:25):
I judge these people by fruits.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
If people are fruitless, I don't want anything.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
To do with you.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
And a narcissist does not have fruit.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
What am I talking about?
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Meekness, kindness, gentleness, long suffering.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
Narcissists don't have any fruit, and people who are fruitless
can't grow with me.
Speaker 8 (15:42):
It's just as simple.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Re Screen is joining us.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
He is a senior at Saint Jerry University, graduating in
twenty twenty five. Part of our podcast conversation Patty and
the Millennials, and he is representing gen Z. How do
you deal with a person with a narcissistic personality? They're selfish,
(16:08):
it's all about them.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
It's just it's a lot how you deal with them.
Speaker 12 (16:15):
Leave them alone, let them live in the delusion of
a world, because what I'm realized with these narcissistic people
is that they can't see things from other point of views.
No matter how hard you try, They're just going to
stay One thing that we learned in my Courageous Conversations
class is they stay resistant. And when you have people
who show such resistance, it's really hard to get far
(16:37):
in a conversation with them, So I say just leave
them alone.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
At this point, we've got dash Moore Evans joining us.
She is representing I guess you could say the youngest
of the millennials, Daijon. We're talking about narcissistic people. They're selfish. Oh,
they don't want to listen. How do you deal with them?
Speaker 10 (17:00):
You don't, Oh my gosh, you have to, Oh god,
you don't deal with them. You really have to have
emotional walls with them if you are going to deal
with them, because it's the gas flighting, the manipulation, the
way they'll make you feel less than just because they're deflecting.
You have to have emotional walls.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Would this be in regular relationship, work relationships, love relationships?
Speaker 3 (17:26):
With this apply to that?
Speaker 10 (17:29):
Yeah? Reply, It applies to all forms, especially a loving relationship,
because that's one of the intimate relationships that people take
most near and dear to their heart, is when they're
romantically involved with somebody. So you definitely have to have
emotional walls. Time ten.
Speaker 9 (17:42):
At that point, do you.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Think that it's harder to relieve yourself of a situation
like this if you're romantically involved.
Speaker 10 (17:51):
With them, No, it's hard because the the it's the
love bombing, it's the gas flighting because again the get
you to a point where you for a lessing yourself,
and it's so hard to gain your confidence in yourself
eschem back once you lose it dealing with the same
person over and over again. So it's hard to leave that.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
This was a very interesting conversation the way you guys
opened up. So, whether it's a work relationship, a love relationship,
a family relationship, it can be very hard to deal
with someone with a narcissistic personality and you gotta learn
how to cut the cord, to just move away or.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Just plain don't deal with them.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
This is the podcast conversation Patty and the Millennials. Dexter
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Speaker 3 (18:55):
Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
From Patty Jackson the Podcast Patty Linehals
Whether it's life, relationships, politics, or current events, nothing is
off limits. This is the Patty and the Millennials podcast,
powered by ACME Markets, helping to bridge the gap between
baby boomers, gen X and millennials.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome, you want good conversation, you found it. This is
the podcast Patty and the Millennials. I'm Patty Jackson. I'm
a radio vet in Philadelphia and I gather the gen zs,
the gen X, the millennials, men, women to have great conversation.
And today we're talking about people who are narcissistic.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Does that mean?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
This triggered me because Nick Cannon admitted he's a narcissist.
All these kids, all these different women, It's like, what
is going on? A narcissist? They basically lack empathy. They're selfish,
they think holly of themselves. Kicking off the podcasts, We've
(00:59):
got doctor Heather Richards. She's a real sexologist. And how
do you deal in your practice with your clients? Do
you deal with a lot of narcissistic people?
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Oh my gosh, hey Patty, Yes I do.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
This is a good topic because over the past few years,
narcissistic personality disorder has been trending right, people kind of
use it and.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
Say, oh, they're a narcissist.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
So I do you know people have been coming to
me in search of wondering why they're a narcissists or
if they are a narcissist?
Speaker 7 (01:40):
Right.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
I mean, to get this diagnosis, you have to have
all of the presenting issues that you just said, right.
But you know, Patty, I got to tell you a
lot of it is from parent child relationships. You know,
did you know like the causes of narcis statistic personality disorder,
(02:02):
The number one thing is parent child relationships. You either
adore your kid too much, right, or you're criticizing them
too much, and it just doesn't match what the child's
actual experience is.
Speaker 8 (02:15):
So you know, when.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
People come to me, they're like, what's wrong with me?
Why don't I have empathy? But some of that, too, unfortunately,
comes along with too much drinking. They're alcoholics, So narcissistic
personality disorder and alcoholism don't match. You know, you're definitely
don't have empathy. What comes with no empathy? You see
that today and our people being raised, like, look at
(02:38):
the twenty somethings, what do you think do you think
they have empathy, Patty.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
No, no, no, it's.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Like y'all different. And that's what I say. I walk around,
I have a twenty something in my house.
Speaker 9 (02:54):
And the empathy is different.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
It is, it really is. It's only about them. Yes,
my son told me that I am obsessed with the trash. Well,
I don't like a trash can overflowing. You see, it's overflowing.
Put it and put it up so we can go
(03:17):
in the trash. We're not missing the trash because they.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Come early on Monday morning.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
So I am I am a stickler about I want
trash cans by the curb.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
On Sunday night.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
And when I come home from work, I want to
see them trash cans right out there.
Speaker 10 (03:40):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
And some of it is genetics too, so it's not
all that right. Some of is your environment and then
it's genetics characteristics that way too. So hopefully people will
get some help and figure it out.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Dexter is joining us.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
This is the podcast Patty and the Millennials, and we're
gonna talk about people who are narcissistic. They lack empathy.
We all know people like this. They act superior, like
I'm better than you, and they're selfish and they're draining decks.
(04:16):
Have you ever encountered a narcissistic.
Speaker 8 (04:21):
Person, you know, to be honest with you, I used
to always. I remember getting broken up with one time
and the girl said, you're the most narcissistic person I've
ever met in my life, and I like took it
up as a badge of honor. I was like, Oh,
that's so cool. And then like as I've gotten older
and I really realized what that means and what that is,
(04:41):
I'm like, that is the most insulting thing to say
about a person, Like you have to be really on
one to be called narcissistic, Like that is not a compliment,
It is not a badge of honor. It is the
most disturbing thing. And I've come across a lot of
those people in real life and they're not fun to
be around.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Do you think it's worse with social media? Yes?
Speaker 8 (05:06):
I do two things.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Though.
Speaker 8 (05:08):
I think it is worse for social media. I think
people feel like they have to play this role almost
and they become a narcissist on social media, even if
they're not like that in real life. They just become
that because of how they post, of what they say,
and then on the flip side of it, I feel
like people see how well people are doing and see people,
you know, like celebrating themselves and whatnot, and they throw
(05:31):
that label on them too. I feel like we label
people narcissistic way more than they actually are as well.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Dealing with a narcissist.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
A person who has a narcissistic take, that's how they are.
They think highly of themselves, they lack empathy, and basically
they can be a pain in the ass.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
We got chocolate Dvinni LaToya Charleston.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I mean, that's the only way that I can put up.
How do you deal with the person? They're just selfish?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
You don't that.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
I will say this time and time again to people.
It is very hard because you know, you're used to
having like certain people in your life, and especially if
they've kind of always been there, it's hard to make
that cut. But it is imperative to start creating distance
from these people because they will take over like a
cancer in your own life. Like it's nothing wrong with
(06:33):
you know, feeling good about yourself, and everybody should feel
great about yourself, But when it becomes the level of
you see nothing outside of yourself or like you said,
no empathy. You can be going through stuff, but it's
like when other people are it's just like, oh well
what about me? I need you right now. It's like
it can turn into very dangerous territory, especially because most
(06:58):
of these people are training on your life. So the
best thing to do child them narcissists come running up,
you better step on that from them, you stay over there.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
He's an entrepreneur, he's a very funny comedian. And we've
got Derek Lee joining us today. We are talking about
narcissistic people. We know these people, Derek, they're amongst us.
How do you deal with a verse And like, have
you ever had someone say to you, well, you ain't
(07:32):
calling me?
Speaker 9 (07:33):
Like the phone?
Speaker 3 (07:34):
The phone works both ways.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
Those people are very dangerous. They don't know that they're narcissistic.
They don't know that they have issues because you can't
tell them anything. Everything is always somebody else's fault. It's
always somebody else's issue. They don't know that they have
issues within themselves.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
And we've got I always call it the Everything Woman
Relative road cast stare social media personality. Her page is
popping most Shanelin Renn is joining us and mo. People
who have narcissistic tendencies, people who wear you out. We
(08:22):
all know this person, we do how do you deal
with How do you deal with people like that? I
think as you get older, you learn how to, I
don't know, breakaway.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Yeah, but it's hard because first of all, let's just
talk about the fact that this whole word narcissism, narcissistic
personality and all that stuff that is today years old,
because when you think about it, twenty years ago, you
didn't really hear this word being thrown away around the
way it is the stage I think we've become a
(09:02):
more emotionally intellectual society and that we're now able to
give language to personalities and characteristics and things like that,
because I never heard the word narcissism until to be
honest with you, I've really never heard the word narcissism
until that man became president and then they started throwing
this word around. Then I'm starting to look at the
(09:23):
beeta the characteristics of what a narcissistm is, and I'm like, damn,
I'm sleeping with one.
Speaker 10 (09:29):
Oh shoot.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
And then I'm like, wow, now I really understand what
it looks like. And now it's become a buzzword, just
like gaslighting. And people who are narcissistic are so deep
into themselves, Paddy, they don't even know that that's who
they are and what they are. It's the receivers. The
people on the receiving end of the narcissism are the
(09:53):
ones that are able to clearly identify who and what
they're dealing with. You know what I mean? And yeah,
I was once or ten years so I know them
very well.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Author Kim Reid is joining us when our podcast Patty
and the Millennials and today, Kim, we're talking about narcissistic people.
I think as you get older, you learn to like separate,
you know, people they really think kylie of themselves. They
don't lack empathy, they're selfish, and then they will make
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you feel guilty like, well you haven't called me, Well,
if you miss me that much, and you would have
called me. But it's kind of like they play on
your I don't know your feelings, how you are.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
How do you deal with a narcissistic person?
Speaker 10 (10:47):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Oh, okay, okay.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
You know.
Speaker 9 (10:52):
And here's here's why I say that I have in
the past, I've dealt with a few, and I've learned
my lesson because of all the characteristics and behaviors that
you just described, and there's a whole there's a whole
host of other behaviors that are really detrimental to their victims.
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And it's funny because most narcissists don't deviate from their script.
And people tell you all the time the best way
to deal with a narcissist is to not and I
really realize that in my in my you know, in
my fifty two years of living, especially the last four years,
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that that is so true. Narcissists, you know, are also insecure,
very charismatic, and you know, most of their victims are
people who are loving, who are who look at life,
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you know, look at life with the glass hasfle And
it's unfortunate because every narcissist that I know has caused
colossal damage in every person that they've touched. And that's
a very loan, that's a very hard pill to swallow
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for many. So I say, the short answer, Patty, is
I don't because I've learned my very very hard lessons.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I think any of us that have dealt with a
narcissistic person have learned that lesson and has moved on.
Speaker 9 (12:48):
Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Dealing with a person who has a narcissistic personality, it
can be difficult. We've got legendary broadcaster uncle Oh. How
do you deal with a person who's like that? They're selfish,
they only think about themselves. They're trying to make you
feel guilty for their nonsense.
Speaker 11 (13:10):
You know, I deal with them by not dealing with them.
Imagine you're in a relationship with someone who's like that, right,
how do you handle someone who's a narcissist and you're
in a relationship with them and you're constantly wrong?
Speaker 8 (13:24):
They're never wrong, and.
Speaker 11 (13:25):
They gassed like you, you know, with their narcissism. I
don't deal with them by not dealing with them. You know,
you don't have to respond. You can just look and
that'll be enough to deal with them.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Do you think when you're younger and you may find
yourself in a situation like this, that you learn from it.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
So when you get older and they you know, some
people don't learn nothing.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
But if you're lucky, you learn from these experiences.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
But I don't think you learn.
Speaker 9 (13:57):
When you're young.
Speaker 11 (13:58):
I think a lot of times what you learn here's
the thing. I think you learn, but you don't apply
what you learn, And a lot of times you don't
apply what you learn when you're young until you're older,
and that's how you learn to handle or deal with
I think sometimes the best way to deal with things
is to not deal with it.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I like that because as you get older, you have
to learn from the things that you may have done
in your youth.
Speaker 11 (14:27):
Right, everything that every response, everything that happens to you,
doesn't deserve a response, or don't have to respond. You know,
a fire takes fuel, and if you keep on throwing
fuel on it, then what you think is going to happen.
So the best way to respond is to not respond.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Dealing with a person who has a narcissist attitude, oh,
they think highly of themselves, but they lack empathy. They're superior,
they're selfish, they're annoying, and when you get older, you
learn and how to weed those people out. Hopefully we've
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got doi Neil here does he how do you deal with.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
A person who's a narcissist?
Speaker 5 (15:11):
You know what, Auntie, I love the fact that we
are talking about this because in.
Speaker 9 (15:15):
This day and age, I'm seeing.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Such a high amnon of narcissists because people are trying
to pump themselves up to feel better about themselves.
Speaker 9 (15:25):
I judge these people by fruits.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
If people are fruitless, I don't want anything.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
To do with you.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
And a narcissist does not have fruit.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
What am I talking about?
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Meekness, kindness, gentleness, long suffering.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
Narcissists don't have any fruit, and people who are fruitless
can't grow with me.
Speaker 8 (15:42):
It's just as simple.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Re Screen is joining us.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
He is a senior at Saint Jerry University, graduating in
twenty twenty five. Part of our podcast conversation Patty and
the Millennials, and he is representing gen Z. How do
you deal with a person with a narcissistic personality? They're selfish,
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it's all about them.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
It's just it's a lot how you deal with them.
Speaker 12 (16:15):
Leave them alone, let them live in the delusion of
a world, because what I'm realized with these narcissistic people
is that they can't see things from other point of views.
No matter how hard you try, They're just going to
stay One thing that we learned in my Courageous Conversations
class is they stay resistant. And when you have people
who show such resistance, it's really hard to get far
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in a conversation with them, So I say just leave
them alone.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
At this point, we've got dash Moore Evans joining us.
She is representing I guess you could say the youngest
of the millennials, Daijon. We're talking about narcissistic people. They're selfish. Oh,
they don't want to listen. How do you deal with them?
Speaker 10 (17:00):
You don't, Oh my gosh, you have to, Oh god,
you don't deal with them. You really have to have
emotional walls with them if you are going to deal
with them, because it's the gas flighting, the manipulation, the
way they'll make you feel less than just because they're deflecting.
You have to have emotional walls.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Would this be in regular relationship, work relationships, love relationships?
Speaker 3 (17:26):
With this apply to that?
Speaker 10 (17:29):
Yeah? Reply, It applies to all forms, especially a loving relationship,
because that's one of the intimate relationships that people take
most near and dear to their heart, is when they're
romantically involved with somebody. So you definitely have to have
emotional walls. Time ten.
Speaker 9 (17:42):
At that point, do you.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Think that it's harder to relieve yourself of a situation
like this if you're romantically involved.
Speaker 10 (17:51):
With them, No, it's hard because the the it's the
love bombing, it's the gas flighting because again the get
you to a point where you for a lessing yourself,
and it's so hard to gain your confidence in yourself
eschem back once you lose it dealing with the same
person over and over again. So it's hard to leave that.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
This was a very interesting conversation the way you guys
opened up. So, whether it's a work relationship, a love relationship,
a family relationship, it can be very hard to deal
with someone with a narcissistic personality and you gotta learn
how to cut the cord, to just move away or.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Just plain don't deal with them.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
This is the podcast conversation Patty and the Millennials. Dexter
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Speaker 3 (18:55):
Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
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