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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
We just got to get out there and swing and
ding it.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, you know, I guess it's gonna go out there
and try to swing it and ding it.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
That's right. Welcome in to swing it and ding it
and iHeartMedia podcasts. We are sponsored by Comcast Business introducing
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Comcast Business Powering Possibilities. You have Moose May's and Matthews
on this waste management, but really super Bowl week for us,
hard to concentrate, hard to pay attention, but we're going
to do our best. And as we are doing our

(00:55):
part to keep US and Canadian relations as improved as possible,
we we go to the Great North, although not right now,
and we welcome in Keaton Villette, Canadian professional golfer who's
part of a really cool venture called Drink Course Record
that we're going to talk about. Keaton. Welcome, to swing
it and ding it. Man, how's it going good?

Speaker 2 (01:14):
How are you guys?

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Thanks for having me, absolutely so. I was watching your
Instagram story last night. So it's impressive that you are
on with us because you are in Scottsdale. Yeah, talk
about what you're doing currently out there in Scottsdale, and
then we'll get a little bit into your your golf
journey and your background and what brought you to to now.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
I am in Scottsdale obviously for the waste.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
I'm here also to sell some golf courses on drinks
that they want.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
So it came out here to do a little bit
of both, throwing some golf.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
If I can, and then watch some boys party on
the best whatever it's called on the on the planet,
best party on.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Grass, no doubt. We'll talk about your your your golf journey, right,
how you got started where you are currently in your
personal golf life.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Ah, well, I kind of did it my own way.
I turned pro after high school. I was a hockey
player up until whatever grade eleven twelve, and then I
turned pro, played junior golf, had some success, had a
decent amateur career, and then moved down to Orlando after
in the winter, and then kind of just learned from

(02:26):
all the older guys, played mini tours, played on the
Canadian Tour a little bit, and then have been out
in Europe a little bit. Last year, played on Challenge Tour.
So just traveling around. But now I got this drink
and golf's kind of taking a little bit of a
back seat as of right now.

Speaker 5 (02:43):
Talk about your drink, Heaton, like, what motivated you to
create this drink? Did you see like kind of something missing?
Did you start like making concoctions in your kitchen?

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Tell us how none of that?

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Well, me and my business partner, he's also Canadian.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
His name's Luke. He's from Winnipeg.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
He had an idea originally and we got connected through
a mutual friend. We both believe that there was something
missing in the golf market, whether it was a drink
or some sort of product that was golf specific and
or golf branded and specific. And it tasted actually good,
because there's a couple ones out there now that are
probably the best tasting, which is unfortunate. So we tried

(03:24):
to make something better and taste better and actually helps
you perform.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
It's a performance drink, it's not an energy drink.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
It's not with a bunch of caffeine, it's not sugar water,
it's not a sports drink, so.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Actually does help you perform.

Speaker 5 (03:38):
Excuse me, well, talk about the drink a little bit
more and talk about the flavors and like you said,
the performance drink, because when I first saw it and
looking at the Instagram page, I for sure thought that
it was an alcoholic beverage.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
So did a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Actually, I don't know if I'm that big of a degenerate,
and everyone thinks that would be a part of an
alcoholic beverage. But at one point it will be a
hopefully because it does go It does go well with
vodka and tequila.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
But that is a good selling point for courses. Actually,
if it's a social club, they love that.

Speaker 6 (04:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
A nice little mixer there, Harry Mtria as a mixer
right here, as.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
I was thinking that before you even brought it up,
to be honest, but uh, Keaton, you say you're out
in Scottsdale. Part of what you're doing is trying to,
you know, to pitch this to golf courses. What is
the pitch? I mean, how do you separate yourself from
other you know brands in that segment.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Uh So we got seven different electrolytes, three amino acids.
We have a very good supplement stack, Like it's a
very solid stack. We have less caffeine than a diet coke.
You only have forty milligrams, so it's not an energy drink,
like I said. And then only five grams of sugar

(04:52):
sweet and with stevia, so it doesn't give any bad
aftertastes like aspartain or anything like that. And then we
got three flavors. We got lemon lime right now, which
tastes like sprite. We got blue rats which tastes like
a jolly rancher apparently. And then we got peach, which
tastes like Bellini's, which is nice to hear.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
So everyone loved it.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
And we were at the PGA show last week in Orlando,
so we've been very busy.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
Yeah, talk about that. Our guys Harry and Danielle were
there as well. Talk about that experience being down there
for something as massive as that, and how you were
able to capitalize on some of the stuff going on
down there.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Oh, it was awesome.

Speaker 7 (05:29):
Honestly.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
We got like the I think the last booth in
all honesty there and it was the smallest, but I
think we might have been the busiest booth in the
whole damn show. We probably had fifty five six thousand
people walk by, tried everything. They all tried it, everyone
loved it. Didn't have one person say it wasn't for

(05:51):
them or they didn't enjoy the taste or the feeling
after they drank it, So that was a.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Very big positive.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Got obviously a lot of connections to golf courses in
in the industry, so it was massive for us being
a ten week old company, and everyone loved hearing we
were ten weeks old.

Speaker 6 (06:07):
Oh yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 5 (06:10):
Can talk about you know, Moos asked you a little
bit about your golf journey and you said, you know,
you turn pro, played a little bit on the Canadian Tour.
How is your experience as like a professional golfer like
contributed to the development of this drink and like some
key things that was needed for golfers.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
It's been great. It's obviously been good for connections wise.
I'd been lucky enough to know a lot of people
in the golf industry, so starting a drink in a
niche area, it helps to know a lot of people
and send it around and get it out there already.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
So that's been helpful. And then just.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Knowing what golfers need on the course and whether it's
a five hour round or it's ninety five degrees though
or whatever, just what.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
You need, what helps you perform at your best.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
So we got some really good amino acids in there,
and Asian and sing and green tea extract to keep
you going on the back nine.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Just a lot of good supplements in there.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Well, what would my at my club, what would my
food and beverage director have to do in order to
bring in some of your product for a try email?

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah, we're very obviously we're new. So everyone just needs
to reach out and email us and then we send
them product and then they try it and then we
go from there.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Really, that's kind of what we're doing.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Or we go door to door and knock on their
door and until they answer, we're gonna.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Have to put that email up on the social media posture.

Speaker 7 (07:40):
Danielle.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
Yeah, we gotta try some product, So you got to
send us some and then.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
You guys, did we not send you some? That's my bad.

Speaker 5 (07:48):
I would have been drinking it right now during the
pod from that product placement for you exactly.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
All right, well that will be shipped out after this
episode very quickly.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
Go ahead again follow it.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
I was just curious you growing up in Canon and
playing hockey. What is the golf season like up there?
How long does it go? How much golf did you
typically get in before you moved to Florida.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Our golf season starts for lucky middle of March, end
of March till October, like Halloween. Really, that's when my
course closes right on Halloween.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Similar to ours, Moose, Yeah, oh they might not. It's
not much difference.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
It might be more conditioned to playing a little bit
colder though, right.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
It gets a little chilly in September and October and November,
but sometimes in October it's like seventy five degrees.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
Yeah, So set the scene for us in Scottsdale Hall.
Thing's been out there. We know it was a little
wild last year. Are you seeing you know those kind
of crowds what you're playing heading over to the to
the tournament this weekend.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
It's honestly, we went out for dinner last night, didn't
into anything too crazy.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
I'm trying to keep it. You know, it's a business trip.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
I'm not trying to get get too ahead of myself here,
but it's definitely you can see like people people like
prep for this for a couple of weeks so they're
they're out and about and there's there's people everywhere.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
But last night wasn't that busy at all. Honestly, it
was kind of interesting.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
And you have tickets to you heading over there today
tomorrow for the weekend.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
I think we're going to go every day try and
then go to the Skybox on Saturday and Sunday up
in sixteen.

Speaker 5 (09:33):
So are you going to try to set up like
a tailgate like an NFL game with your product out
there or something like that.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
I don't know. I don't know if I could swing that.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
I am going to an influencer this influencer event tonight
night golf event that she's letting me bring out a
bunch of products.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
So that'll be cool.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Cool to get in front of one hundred and fifty
more influencers and then four other four hundred other celebrities
and influential people apparently will be there, so that'll be excited.

Speaker 8 (10:04):
I saw you had my girl, Sarah Winter trying some
of your drinks at.

Speaker 6 (10:07):
The PGA show.

Speaker 8 (10:08):
But speaking of.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
Influencers and stuff like that, how can our listeners follow you?

Speaker 6 (10:12):
Where can they find you?

Speaker 8 (10:13):
Guys?

Speaker 3 (10:15):
You can follow us on Instagram we drink course record,
or we're on Facebook.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
We're actually on all social medias now, so we're on.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
You on TikTok, TikTok, Twitter, I guess X, Instagram, Facebook,
all the good stuff.

Speaker 6 (10:30):
Awesome.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
We'll have to talk to you about our swinging and
thing it open, which typically is in the middle of July,
and hydration is paramount at that event because it's been
about one hundred and seventy five degrees the past couple
of years.

Speaker 6 (10:43):
And there's no alcohol consumed at all.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yeah, no, non, not, well we can we can arrange
that for sure.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
How do you know Sarah Just actually my husband plays
and he worked with Brian for Little Bit, which is
Sarah swing coach, so her through Brian actually before yeah,
she started, uh you know, kind of taking off with
her her social Oh yeah, yeah, I've known her for
quite a few years now.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
She's killing it. She's a good friend of mine him,
and uh so is Mac Boucher. So I'm good friends
with them. They've helped me out a bunch. They've showed
me a lot on the influencer side and how to
actually try to do it as a business.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
So it's been been great.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
It's funny. I actually uh, I played with with Mac
the golf of Gaming Club out of LA A good
friend of mine was one of the guys who started that,
so I got a chance to see. I mean, some
of the stuff he does is just ridiculous. I mean
his instagram is an awesome fillow to see some of
those shots he hits and some of the places he
does it, It's it's pretty wild, right like.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yeah, he's very uh what's it called self deprecating, but
he's a hell of a golfer and he might have
the best hands ever that I've ever seen.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
Yeah, yeah, well we'll check it out. But one one
last question. Obviously we're based and you have some golf
experience it sounds like up north, then a little bit
out wide, uh in Europe, but any Philly golf experience
it to this point.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Never played in Philly.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
Wow, you're coming out for the outing and then we
got the courses?

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, done deal.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
I mean we got a couple of good ones and
we'll try to get you connected product wise too. So
it be good to play the course and then have
drink course records stay on the course.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
So perfect. Yeah, well, everybody check out drink course Record.
It's good, no.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
Doubt, no doubt. Well, thank you all for coming on. Yeah,
I could see that, and uh, we're definitely excited to
check it out. Thanks for coming on. So cool. I mean,
we love talking to people that go all in in
the game of golf and to see that you're doing
that is awesome. Man. So continue success and we'll talk soon.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Oh, thank you very much, guys. I appreciate it. Thanks again,
got it.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
Thanks you. All right, we'll take a quick break and
we will be right back. All right, welcome back to
Swing It and ding It. Great to talk to Keaton Villette,
Canadian pro golfer and UH co founder of Drink Course Record.
Great idea, great product, great packaging. I mean, it's it's funny.

(13:22):
There's a lot of products that try to, you know,
insert themselves into the game of golf, but they're not
package that way, they don't look that way. They're just
an existing product that tries to insert themselves. So cool
way to do it is started from the beginning.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Yeah, and apparently it goes well with vodka, so that's
good takeaway.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
I looked at their instagram thought it was like a
Seltzer or something. And then when I was doing my
research last and I'm like, wait time out, there's no alcohol,
and I was like, I.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
Have a feeling it will.

Speaker 6 (13:53):
Down down the line.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Take a swig or two out of the top of
the can and dump an airplane bottle of vodka in there,
and you're good to go.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
That's all you gotta do.

Speaker 8 (14:02):
Put Harry on your advisory board.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Having it.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
I love having a guy on with a quality mustache.
Though that was We need more of that on this show, right,
I think anytime Harry does it occasionally a couple times
a year, and it's big for us when that happens.
But I think we need more of that. You know,
we'll start incorporating that.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
Harry looking for mustache guys when I'm vetting the.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Guests, Please please do Harry. All is right in the
golf world, Yes, Rory McIlroy has won a signature event
at one of the greatest golf courses on the face
of the planet on a beautiful, beautiful Sunday with the
buttery voice of your boy Jim Nance bringing it home.
Where are you standing on the couch? Tell me the

(14:47):
scene as Rory casually strolls down eighteen.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Well, yeah, I mean this was long since over after
we made the eagle on fourteen, but yeah, it was.
It was a good Sunday for the game of golf
because you didn't you didn't have football interfering at all,
and they took advantage of it. They got three point
three million viewers and that's apparently the most ever for
a final round since twenty twenty four Players Championship, which

(15:13):
Scotty won. So you know, it's been a long time,
been almost a year since they had ratings like that.
And you know, you put a golfer like Rory McElroy,
who people either you know, love some hate. I just
I just don't like the way the media covers it
more than him. I have nothing personal against him. He's
terrific to watch, but the media is just there there.

(15:35):
You know, they get the lotion and the towels out.
You know when Rory's you know, hitting drivers and the
drivers seven iron into.

Speaker 7 (15:41):
The par five fourteenth hole.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
You went on to shoot sixty six after shooting sixty
five on Saturday. I watched every shot of both days
and he was just terrific. I mean, but Bertie on ten,
Bertie on twelve. You know, we talked about the eagle
on fourteen, and you know the final group, Straka, I
thought set Straka was going to give him a little
bit of a run and he came out of the
gate and stumbling and just never got it, never got

(16:06):
into the round.

Speaker 7 (16:06):
And you had Lowry.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Shane Lowry was you know, I think he finished second.
Both of them made aces over the weekend, which was
really cool. Rory's came at the fifteenth pole at Spyglass
and Shane Lowry does it on one of the most
iconic holes in all of golf. I mean, this guy
was watching him and he puts a hole in one
in on the seventh hole at Pebble Beach.

Speaker 7 (16:29):
That was good. I think that was good stuff.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
His three hole in ones I think it's is it
players Masters and Pebble Beach.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
I think that's why I think.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
So let's tell you what. Keegan Bradley must have been
losing sleep watching these Ryder Cup I know, guys just
crushing it out there.

Speaker 5 (16:48):
Wait, did you did you guys see Rory whoop though,
like post that he did is pretty cool.

Speaker 8 (16:53):
So his heart rate actually went down.

Speaker 5 (16:56):
When he made the hole in one, So he his
heart rates like one twenty whatever, one twenty one.

Speaker 8 (17:02):
And then you see it go and he puts a
thing down, It's.

Speaker 6 (17:04):
Like one twenty nineteen eighteen.

Speaker 5 (17:06):
I'm like, who I'd be like, let's go, I'd be like,
but yeah, I was like, wow.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Maybe that's why he has all those cringe worthy celebrations.

Speaker 7 (17:17):
I mean, watching him celebrate not a great fringe. It
is not good.

Speaker 8 (17:20):
Is it like an Hawksha celebration?

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah, it's But yeah, you talk about the Ryder Cup.
I mean you're right, Moose. You know, Keek and Bradley
cannot like seeing that. But I tell you I was
rooting for Lucas Glover and he was hitting the ball,
just hitting the eyes out of it all week, but
just missed too many pots on Sunday to really make
a charge.

Speaker 7 (17:41):
But I love love seeing Lucas back in the mix.

Speaker 4 (17:44):
Yeah, and I don't I don't know if you're going
to touch on this, Danielle, but Lucas was very vocal
this week too.

Speaker 7 (17:48):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
Speaking of Keegan, Bradley. I don't think this is going
to earn him any ryder cup uh love, but he
basically just trashed am Point.

Speaker 5 (17:58):
Oh literally yeah, literally, it's so many people DM and
Brad about that.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
Sure, I'm sure.

Speaker 5 (18:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
It's a very polarizing topic, right it is. Cutting is
is the biggest thing. It's it's instruction wise, it's massive,
and there's camps right there. There are people that say
this way or that way, and the aime Point guys
took a beating from our boy Lucas. Listen, whatever helps
you or says it helps you. He says he has

(18:24):
data that says it isn't helping these people. The one
part that does, the only part that does kind of
annoy me. And not everyone does this, but the guys
that really get right up close to right up to
the cup and they're stomping their feet around to get
their read it is a little bit nerving.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
I agree, you know. I saw one. I think it
was Thursday or Friday. Tom Kim was in the group
with Colin Morikawa, who's an aim Point guy. He gets
right up there to the hole and with the feet
and everything, and Tom Kim's putt just dropped into the cup,
and there's Colin Morikawa in the camera shots standing right
at the hole before he.

Speaker 7 (18:56):
Even gets the ball out of the hole. You know,
like the dude, back off.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
Yeah, at least get let me retrieve.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
My ball before you stand, you know, two inches from
the cup with your stupid am point.

Speaker 7 (19:07):
It is kind of annoying.

Speaker 8 (19:08):
Well, and that's what Lucas was saying too.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
He was like, you know, you're stomping all over the
hole like trying to do it. It takes up too
much time and I don't I don't have the staff.
But he said statistically like it hasn't helped anybody.

Speaker 8 (19:22):
He said, I don't know about that, but that sounds
hard to believe.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
But yeah, these guys are doing it for two and
three foot putts. Yeah, like Bradley kicking Bradley's He's he
does it for everything too.

Speaker 7 (19:34):
So yeah, that is interesting.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
I wonder how that was received because I know Charlie
Hoffman's letter was not well received by one Rory McElroy.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
It's it was a very appointed letter. It's it might
as well been addressed. It might have had a Dear
Rory at the top of that thing. I like, how
we're writing letters now I know. I know.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
Yeah, but you guys, any listeners go on and check
out Lucas.

Speaker 8 (19:58):
Because he was going off on his show.

Speaker 5 (20:01):
He's talking about like the sign bearers. Yeah yeah, He's like,
everyone has their phone, we have a big scoreboard. But
you know what, honestly, I like the sign bearers because, like,
if you're walking the course and you don't know who
that group to your right is, maybe like I think
it's better, Like, yeah, we all have phones that we
can look at the leaders, but I think it's cool
to look over on the other fairway and you see

(20:23):
red numbers.

Speaker 6 (20:23):
You're like, Okay, who is in that group? You want
to look?

Speaker 4 (20:25):
Like that's a tradition thing too, I think I think
something you got to keep some things going.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
But well, his idea was to take those kids that
typically carry the signs, teach him how to rake a
bunker and and stick them at a hole, you know,
and they've raked the bunkers so the caddy doesn't have
to waste time doing it.

Speaker 6 (20:43):
You think kid's going to be that efficient.

Speaker 8 (20:45):
Half these kids can barely carry the sign. It's like
around there, like it's true, I.

Speaker 7 (20:49):
Have no faith in the youth.

Speaker 5 (20:50):
Of America, or you just have additional with the sign
bearers have like some.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll volunteer for the club, Harry.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
I mean you you put a nice coating on that thing.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Absolutely, I'm very particular about sand.

Speaker 8 (21:10):
The trick is after you make it this way, you
have to get.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
Yeah, there's an art to it. But yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
But the other thing he said that I thought was
really good, and he brought up the Sony Open, which
you know is every January. The eighteenth hole, for example,
the grand stand is literally five feet off the putting
green right, so guys are constantly hitting hitting the ball
up next to the to the grand stand, and they
take forever to get a drop.

Speaker 7 (21:37):
He said, we're so paranoid.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
About how we drop it, where we drop it. If
we do it right, everything's on camera. We might get docked,
you know, strokes if we do it wrong. How about
they just do what they do over in teaching in
Europe and Europe and have the drop zone at every hole.

Speaker 7 (21:53):
There's there's a couple of drop.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Zones, and you go to the closest one, drop your
ball and go.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
How about they how about they use the t GL
tech Algiane drop a laser boom, right, that would be
good to here, drop it right here, boom on this
green dot.

Speaker 5 (22:04):
Yeah, you know, it's some of the some of the guys. Yeah, yeah,
for sure, it's going to infiltrate everything. But I think
a lot of the players on tour will use the
man made objects, if you will, to their advantage, and
if they're in a bad lie, they'll say, oh, let's
just like, you know, rake it off the grandstands, you
know what. Yeah, yeah, because then you don't have to

(22:26):
worry about flying it over landing here or there, going
the bunker. It's like you're getting a free drop. It's
going to be right around that area, right off the green.
It's like, just you know, hammer right into there.

Speaker 7 (22:37):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
Well, we'll bring it home on the AT and T
Pebble Beach Pro. And I'll tell you what, after finally
playing Pebble Beach last year and now watching this tournament,
it was so much fun watching it and uh, you know,
trying to remember some of the whole time. You know,
I had to look up a map to remember which
hole was which because I don't remember that kind of stuff.
But just just watching it after playing it was so

(22:58):
so cool. I mean, that place is so special, it's unbelievable.

Speaker 6 (23:02):
It is.

Speaker 5 (23:03):
The weather's just always bipolar there, that's the drinking part.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
Yeah, and you could you could hear jim Nance's love
for his home, his home basically through the broadcast, and
he gives you those little nuggets about this wharf and
this boat and you know all that stuff. I love it.
Just give it, give it to me, and I'll tell
you what.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
I gotta ask you, guys, did you miss the celebrities
because I didn't.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
No.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
No, I mean they wouldn't have been there on the
weekend anyway because of the format was just two rounds.
But Thursday and Friday I hardly saw any and I
didn't care.

Speaker 8 (23:37):
No.

Speaker 5 (23:39):
I think it's just cool for honestly, I think it's
cool for like the players. Like when we went there,
it was cool because you know, you go to the
like free tournament party and you're kind of mingling with
all like you know, these artists and you know, actresses
and actors and NBA players, et cetera.

Speaker 6 (23:57):
So I think that's cool. So I think it's like fun.

Speaker 5 (23:59):
But I think for you know, us watching from home,
we could care less, you know, what I mean, it's like, okay, cool,
I kind of le's a rice is playing next?

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Like yeah, you know, like it's cool to see Chris
Berman trying to hit a chip shot.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
Yeah, no, yeah, but great event. Yeah, you know, good ratings, great,
good ratings. Yeah, at a great time of the year.
And to your point, Harry, in a weekend where there's
no football, so it was awesome to watch. Uh, let's
roll into some tea with d Yeah. We may we
may have covered some of the things, but I'm sure
you have more nuggets for us.

Speaker 8 (24:33):
We got a couple more nuggets waste management. They're just
staying on that topic.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
Did you see the guy walking with a stack or
tower if you will, the empty beer cups?

Speaker 8 (24:42):
It was probably like a story two stories tall.

Speaker 6 (24:45):
Did you guys see that? Oh it's epic.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
My feet is nothing but eagles right now. I have
to apologize.

Speaker 5 (24:50):
I had to do my research, but yeah, he literally
has you know, like the green solo cups and they're
probably I'm not exaggerating, So what a stack like this
is probably like ten I mean he must have had
like one hundred hundred and fifty walking sure, as it's
you know, whacky inflatable armplilling two men and he's trying
to like maintain it. So that was pretty good. I

(25:12):
just saw that on placial. I thought I had had
to share that.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
Great videos, always out of waste management, always.

Speaker 8 (25:19):
So good, so good.

Speaker 5 (25:21):
But we were talking a little bit about Lucas and
the pace of play, so the LPGA sent out a
pace of play memo with updated penalties. So if these
penalties were in play last year, twenty three players would
have received one stroke penalties last season at least twenty
three players. So what's staying the same the warning system,
banking of time on a whole, excessive shot timing, target
timing finds doubling.

Speaker 8 (25:42):
The following year. What's changing is the penalties.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
So plus one to five seconds over time equals a fine,
plus six to fifteen seconds equals a one stroke penalty,
and plus sixteen seconds or.

Speaker 8 (25:54):
More is a two stroke penalty. So you can.

Speaker 5 (25:58):
See that it's and we know we talk about this
on the pod all the time. It's always an issue
with a slow play. So I don't know if this
is coming from the new commission or if this is
just rules are rolling out, but I think it's good
to see.

Speaker 8 (26:10):
I think it's a positive.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
I do too, And I've always said that they seem
to be the tour that's most concerned with policing this
stuff and making sure these people, you know, these players
play at the proper pace and the PGA Tour. I
swear they're just intimidated by these guys. They don't want
to get in JT's grill or or Tom Kim, who's
him forever forever.

Speaker 5 (26:32):
Literally literally, the camera guy's got to be like, you know, trying.

Speaker 6 (26:36):
To like harmful.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
When he hit that ball down onto the rocks, I'm like,
they might as well just go to commercial on six yeah, yeah,
sixth in trouble here.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
He was timed on that whole Look. Somebody put it
out on social media on X and I saw it.

Speaker 7 (26:49):
Forty two seconds.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
This is after he's already decided what club he's hit
and he's going to hit the ball. To approach the
ball took forty two seconds. And then once he stayed
hands over, he stands over for twenty three seconds, so
minute five to hit it.

Speaker 7 (27:05):
O B.

Speaker 5 (27:07):
Well, Harry, here's a novel idea from Andrew Novak. He said,
post how long people are taking let them hear the
outrage from people. Let people chirp at the players that
are taking too long. He's like, if we want to
speed it up, let the world know who these guys are.

Speaker 6 (27:21):
That's the problem.

Speaker 8 (27:23):
So I mean we all, yeah, yeah, let's shame them.
Let's heckle these people.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
It was funny too, Like even in TGL like most guys,
you hardly hear that heartbeat. With Tom Kim, you heard
that heartbeat. It felt like maybe that'll help him. Maybe
that'll see that the.

Speaker 5 (27:38):
Official heartbeat, like you know what I mean, like what
there actually is like when that shot clock goes on.

Speaker 8 (27:46):
But USGA's inclusive move.

Speaker 6 (27:48):
The US Open becomes a first major to award.

Speaker 8 (27:51):
Live golf and exemption, how about it?

Speaker 6 (27:53):
Yeah, so pretty significant development there.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
The USGA has announced that top players from live not
already exempt, we'll receive it entry into the US Open
in June. Additionally, the top ten live players by April
seventh will bypass local qualifying.

Speaker 6 (28:08):
So does this signal.

Speaker 8 (28:09):
A potential easing of tensions between the PJA door.

Speaker 6 (28:12):
And live Maybe maybe not? Is it just the USGA
and not the PGA Tour. I don't know what do
you guys think?

Speaker 1 (28:18):
I think this is sort of good, moving towards the
idea that live doesn't have to make a deal. You know,
you start to get exemptions in the majors, and.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
You know you need money.

Speaker 7 (28:28):
Why do you need to be on the PGA Tour.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
That's right, They're probably going to buy the DP World
Tour anyway, and that way they'll get their players into
tournaments that can earn world ranking.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
Yes, yep, so it seems that way.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
Yeah, yeah, and that's good even if you know me,
Harry Moose and the rest of our listeners. Feed is
just flooded with the Philadelphia Eagles and the Chiefs paying
off the refs. You probably did see that Tiger's mom
passed away.

Speaker 6 (28:56):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 8 (29:00):
I know young, that's young.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
She's young, and she looked good. I made refuge to
my wife at the TGUS. She looks great, and a
week later and she's she's gone.

Speaker 8 (29:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
So sad, sad sad news.

Speaker 8 (29:12):
Yeah, well that rubs the tea with d all right.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Well have you seen the Phil Mickelson and Dustin Johnson content.

Speaker 7 (29:22):
They've been putting this a lot.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Of stuff out here with the last week or two,
especially uh, this two versus two thing that Grant Horvat
and Phil are doing They took on Dustin Johnson and
Austin Johnson. You can watch it on YouTube and the
stuff on Instagram. This Dustin Johnson.

Speaker 7 (29:38):
I need a mic.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
I miss I missed Dustin Johnson.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
And he's playing well today too. They're over in Riod
in Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 7 (29:45):
He's near the lead.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
I'm glad he's doing this too hard because he's not
the kind of guy that's put put this kind of
content out on his own right, and we would get
it on the PGA tour because they would highlight him, right.
He's not going to go out there and put up
his video. So it's cool that someone else is pulling
him in because I miss his I love his person out.

Speaker 7 (29:59):
It's so great. He's the best.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
There was one I saw last week where he's said
saying about Phil Nicholson learned to hit a fade based
on DJ hitting a fade, And I saw that and
DJ was saying, like, the key to hitting a fade
is it's got a fade, Like that was his advice
to hit a fade.

Speaker 5 (30:21):
He doesn't have a career for a coach post post Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Jason Bale doesn't have to worry about any clients.

Speaker 6 (30:30):
To DJ, you want to hit it far, just like
hit it just hit it far.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
DJ.

Speaker 7 (30:38):
Literally definitely. All right.

Speaker 4 (30:40):
Well we go to UH the early start thanks to
the Super Bowl, UH, to the waste management Phoenix Open.
Great event, absolutely great event, soup and they call it right,
such a fun one to go to. If if the
Eagles would have won that Super Bowl a couple of
years ago, would have been the greatest weekend ever to
be there, but they did not. I digress, but you

(31:02):
have world number one Scotti Scheffler, world number five Hitdeki Matsiyama.
And let's talk about the course of course sponsored by
Penn Club on second for TPC Scottsdale, one of the
most famous courses in the world.

Speaker 7 (31:14):
Yeah, no doubt about it.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
And then it's famous for what you see behind me,
the grand stand around sixteen, which makes it almost look
like a mini Fenway Park, and the rocous atmosphere is
off the charts. But Tom Weiscoff j Mars designed this
back in eighty six. Weiscoff did a renovation in twenty fourteen.
At parse seventy one seventy two hundred and sixty one yards,
the average green size seven sixty nine square feet, so

(31:39):
much bigger than pebble Beach, actually two times the size
of the average pebble beach greens are these, they're poe
Anna greens. It's the fourth straight event that they'll be
putting on Poe sixty seven sand bunkers, three water hazards,
and water is in play on six holes, and the
closing stretch is pure drama. You've got a fifteenth hole
which is a reach par five, risk reward par five

(32:03):
with an island green, lots of water. Then you go
into the into the cauldron in the sixteenth hole, which
is a pretty humdrum par three were it not for
the grand stand and all all the hooplah, but uh,
that makes it something special. And then you go out
to the seventeenth hole, which is one of the coolest holls.
And Tom Weiscough's signature is he's always has a driveable

(32:24):
par four and this is an awesome one with a
lot of water left and water over the green and
so a lot of risk reward, a lot to hit.
The Gala a few years ago was near the lead
or at the lead, and this hole he blew it up.

Speaker 7 (32:37):
Uh brought him to tears. Because he hit it in
the water.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Uh, the eighteenth hole is kind of a diagonal T
shot over water to a diagonal fairway that's tough to hit.
And you got Church Pew bunkers on the left side
and other big bunkers on the right, and the and
the green's got a couple of different segments to it.
If you got it, you got to hit in the
right segment to have a chance at birdie. So a
really cool finish, lots of drama and a great appetizer

(33:03):
for Super Bowl Sunday and Eagles football.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
That's right, that's right. So according to our buddy Jeff Ulrich,
some good stats, the last fourteen winners here thirteen had
a T seven or better in one of the five
starts before their win, and then each of the nine
past winners had a top ten finish at this course
the year prior. So yeah, interesting stats.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
I think there's been a playoff in six of the
last nine years this tournament has gone to a playoff.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
Well, you talked about Saheith, and that was in twenty
twenty two where he winds up T three after that
blow up hole. But his you know, his odds were
sitting right now at four thousand. Obviously we're the tournament
has started. Yeah, how about Scotty it's still too eighty
plus two eighty. There's such short odds. Rasmus Hoguard out
of nowhere just jumped up the board. He's still sitting

(33:54):
up in in third. I actually took Billy Horssechell in
the one and done.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Why I really my wife and me and you took
him no One.

Speaker 7 (34:03):
I think Slash took them. Wow.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
I had to remind Slash and Powers this morning to
put their picks in. I hate to do it to
around seven this morning. You know you shouldn't have to
do You shouldn't I shouldn't have to do that.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
You should have the people right.

Speaker 7 (34:18):
I think I'm doing that for everybody.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
I'll address it. I'll address it within the halls of
iHeart here because I take responsibility. Those guys fall under
my purview and I apologize for that.

Speaker 6 (34:27):
Should be ashamed, I am.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
I'm embarrassed. I did like his Decky. His numbers were short,
but you know you had to win here in seventeen
I believe it was at eighteen hundred. But zaheath to
t five and twenty four. His number was four thousand.
As of this morning, Sepstraca is playing well. Son Jay
I had a really good feeling on Wyndham Clark. I
don't know because I saw him in a video. Bob
does sports, probably so I probably just like stuck in

(34:51):
my mind. But that number was sixty five hundred. I
don't know where he is now, but yeah, and guys
like you know, Jake Napp are having a day and
Straka is playing well too.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah, and Luke Clanton of course is in the field again,
the amateur from Florida State, and at some point this season,
I think he's going to be turning pro and then
you can actually, you know, put him in a one
and done because you know, you can't use him now
because he doesn't get the money. But I love watching
that kid play golf. Andrew Novak is a long shot
that I took at plus seventy five hundred. He's playing

(35:21):
some good golf. Finished in the top ten last year
at this event. I like you took Billy Horschell, he
was plus five thousand to win last I looked Mad
McNeely too in a top twenty. I like and Nick Taylor,
the defending champ, in a top twenty looked good Figala
over Fitzpatrick in a matchup at minus one p thirty
and Billy Horschell over min Wu Lee at minus one

(35:43):
twenty five.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
Daniel did Brandon play in this event two years ago? No,
okay no, I wasn't sure if he ever played in
this one.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
I tried my hardest too, because it was the Burger
playing in the Bowl, and so I was like, come on, like,
you know, because I don't know if it got into
it like as rookies, I don't think everyone would. And
I was like, you better Monday, and he's like, I
just played like six in a row, like back off,
and I'm like, but the Birds, and.

Speaker 7 (36:09):
I think it might have been an elevated event that year.

Speaker 6 (36:12):
I think so because I think he would have had
a Monday. And I was pushing hard.

Speaker 5 (36:16):
I don't ever enter a tournament, but you know, with
the Birds, I was like, oh on, he didn't.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
Yeah, but we'll see how this one plays out.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
T g L.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
I felt like it felt like a little bit of
an off week this week, right, like it just was.

Speaker 6 (36:29):
I didn't watch it, just didn't want to. I'm not
a big TV person in general, but I was.

Speaker 7 (36:34):
Like I watched it.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
I powered through it, did you It really didn't. No
hammers know, nothing of the crowd was dead. Plus it
came on late. It started at nine o'clock. They got time.

Speaker 6 (36:48):
I see that they're head.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
They hand out now like the terrible towels they give
people hammer towels when they come in now for like
a rally, towels on the stands.

Speaker 6 (36:58):
Really, I got to get over and see event in person.

Speaker 5 (37:01):
I know, right enough, drinks we start, you know, or
somebody who's get the home one.

Speaker 6 (37:05):
They all get thrown off, throw it off.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Yeah, But the l A Golf Team, the l A
Golf Club, who are now in some patent infringement conversation
with l A Golf they make shafts.

Speaker 7 (37:18):
Oh yeah, l A Golf.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Is I think you're going to sue them. I don't
know if this, you know, if that has any legs
to stand on. But l A the l A Golf
Club is the best team of any of them.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
So the biggest winners in the game of golf might
be attorneys right now, right between all of this stuff. Yeah,
all right, well, good stuff, guys. Fun episode. Thanks again
to Keaton the Yet. Make sure you check out drink
course record. We'll share some of their information and you
got to get an email and put it up there.
Yeah yeah, let's maybe talk about a little partnership before

(37:52):
we go, you know. Yeah, I'm saying we talked about
a little something before the thing.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Okay, we'll just send it to me so I can
get it to my club.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
All right, you got it.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
I want to sample this stuff.

Speaker 5 (38:04):
Get the samples to our house ahead a Sunday, right right,
you got it.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
All right, we'll be back next week to recap it
all and thanks for listening.

Speaker 7 (38:13):
To listen, swing it and ding it.
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