Swing It & Ding It: Episode 226

Joined by Joie Chitwood- Executive Director of The Truist Championship at Philly Cricket Club. Moose’s recap of his round with Louis Giovacchini- and review of Hammock Beach Resort. JT back on Top at the RBC, The Tea with D. The Course of Course presented by The Penn Club on 2nd for the Zurich Classic and See The Line with BetParx.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:25):
to get out there and swing and ding it.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, you know, just guess it's gonna go out there
and try to swing it and ding it.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
All right, welcome in to swing it and ding it.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
This is Moose along with Maze and Matthews and we
are sponsored by Buy My Balls, talk about them later.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
And another big announcement today, Bett Parks.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
You tease it a little bit with our new sports
book sponsor. We'll talk about that when we see the
line a little bit later. For the Zora Classic. Now,
Harry's got a couple guys circled for that, but we
are keeping it philly as we like to do. And
with the true Championship approaching, we are joined by Joey Chitwood,

(01:03):
executive director for the twenty twenty five Truest Championship.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Joey, Welcome to swing it and ding it.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Thank you so much. Excited to be here. Love to
talk to anybody who wants to talk about golf. So
this is the highlight of my day versus a lot
of paperwork, a lot of operational issues. Let's chat about
golf and how excited we are to be in Philadelphia.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
We'd like to talk to you about some stanchions and
some pylons first, if we can get into that a
little bit, and where people are going to park.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
And I'm just kidding you know, Joe.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
We talk a lot about the golf journey, right, We
talk to a lot of people, whether they're players, whether
they're coaches. You have a bit of a circuitous route
if you will, into the game of golf. Talk about
your background and your history and now what has led
you to this.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
So do we have like an hour or two for
you to get into as much time as you want.
I will do an abbreviated version. And it really dates
back to my grandfather. So my grandfather was in motor sports,
spent his career in that. He was a race car driver,
raced at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, finished fifth in the
Indy five hundred three times, first man of a receipt

(02:07):
belt at the Indy five hundred nineteen forty six, they
averaged one hundred and twenty miles per hour around that racetrack.
I don't know about you, guys. I do not want
to get thrown from a car at one hundred and
twenty miles per hour. That's a story for another day.
But racing was outlawed in World War Two, and so
here my grandfather is an out of work race car driver.
So he buys the remnants of an automobile stunt show.

(02:29):
It was owned and operated by Lucky Teeter. He was
a stuntman out of Noblesville, Indiana. My grandfather buys the
remnants from the widow. Lucky Teeter wasn't that lucky in
terms of his namesake, and my grandfather becomes a stuntman,
and so for the latter part of the forties he's
both a stuntman and race car driver. By nineteen fifty,
the stunt show is gangbusters. We've got five units toward

(02:52):
the United States. There's speedways, you name it, were there
and we did that from nineteen forty three to nineteen
ninety eight. I spent twenty years on the road. I
had a truck driver's license. I drove a car carrier.
I had probably slept in half of the truck stops
and rest areas in this country. We'd leave Tampa in
June and not come back to October, five months on
the road. And I actually did not want to go

(03:15):
to college. I just assumed i'd keep working in the
family business. My dad was very adamant that I go
because my dad had not been to college, and so
with the family business, I wasn't really that interested. So
I really didn't apply myself. So if you're going to
go someplace and not apply yourself, I would recommend Gainesville, Florida.
And from what I remember, there were some football games,

(03:37):
there were a lot of parties, and next thing you know,
I graduate, I have a finance degree. I spend another
year with the family, and I realized I don't want
to be a stuntman anymore. I'm ready to chart my
own path. And of course I really was not prepared
for that. So jumped out of the plane, no parachute,
went back to grad school, got an MBA, and that's

(03:58):
where I kind of flipped the switch and it was
time to get going and take all the things I'd
learned and apply myself. So got connected with the Indie
Racing League helped open up well Disney World Speedway in
nineteen ninety six. Here I am a finance degree, an MBA.
I'm carrying TVs up grandstands to put them in race control.
Now mind you, these are the old tube TVs. We're

(04:18):
not talking about the flat screen today. It was not exactly.
I'm there at the back gate at five am signing
people in with credentials, and I had this moment of
an epiphany, like what is going on. I've got a
student loan kicking in. I got to make a living
and I'm carrying TVs at grandstands and I got a
grad degree, Like this is not going to work out. Luckily,

(04:40):
I got hired full time, spent three and a half
years in Indianapolis as part of the Indie Racing League.
Had a chance to take the next step up the ladder.
Got to Joel at Illinois and I worked for the
France family and the home and George family home in George,
d and Indy. France family ow NASCAR and I built
chicagoan Speedway and Joliet So did that for three and
a half years. To go back to Indianapolis, spent seven

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and a half years as the president of that property.
Think about this, Here's a guy who grew up as
a stuntman, and I'm now in charge of one of
the most historic properties on the planet, in charge of
the largest single day sporting event in the world, an
event that my grandfather raced in fifty years prior. I

(05:23):
am a lucky person. These are things that do not happen,
and so I spent seven and a half years doing that.
My kiddo at the time, you're a little young guy,
and always wanted to get back to Florida, friends and family,
raise your kid around all those things, and had a
chance to get down to the NASCAR world, and so
hopped on board with the France family. Spent ten and

(05:44):
a half years there. I spent a book of that.
As the president of Daytona led their four million dollar
renovation of the racetrack. I got promoted to chief operating
officer and I ran twelve of the racetracks, which represented
twenty of the NASCAR races. Interesting fact. I was born
on February twentieth, nineteen sixty nine, in Tampa, Florida. My

(06:05):
mom was on her own. My dad was too busy.
He was racing in a car at Daytona International Speedway.
So now I'm the president of Daytona and my father
has a connection to that property. I decide it's time
to retire. I have climbed the mountain racing, love it great.
I'm going to take a year or two off, you know,
I'm going to work on the golf game. Two months later,

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I get connected to the Arnold Palmer family. I speak
family business. I have my ticket stub from the nineteen
ninety two Nestley Invitational and was always a big fan
of cutting classes in Tampa and driving to Orlando to
catch the tournament. When Amy saw Amy Palmer Saunders and
I connected, I knew the pressure that you're on when
you're name six on the wall. It's all about how

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do you protect, preserve and perpetuate that brand, And sometimes
families tend to protect or overprotect and lose sight of
perpetuating present. So did that for two and a half years,
jumped jump ship and ran out to Scott Stale do
a little consulting work for Bart Jackson. But the PGA
tour kin Colin and said we want to run the

(07:10):
biggest event in President's Cup history in Chicago. What do
you say? And like sign me up. Oh, by the way,
will you pay me? Yep, we'll pay it. Great, I'm
in let's do this thing. And then the last couple
of years I've been parachuting into events to help run them.
We took over Palm Beach with three months, and then
we had nine months to do the truest and I'm

(07:30):
in an apartment here in Philly and i don't know
how long I took. But that's a quick version of
the Joey the Third History. And at the end of
the day, I'm a really lucky person. I'm excited when
I have a brand on my shirt and I can
talk about how special that brand, that sport, that person
is to what we do. And for me, I've charmed life,

(07:52):
you know, charmed life. To graduate from a family business
to actually being part of some special properties in sports.

Speaker 5 (07:58):
That's incredible. Life full circle, so many just wow moments
for you. Let's kind of maybe lead that into maybe
another wow moment. Has there been something in your event
or part of me, a moment or event in your
career that has brought you just personal gratification, maybe a
player exemption or a charitable initiative something like you really
helped push through that made like a really lasting impact

(08:19):
for you.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
You know, there's so many things you could list in
terms of what's special and making a difference. To be
part of the team that led the planning for the
anniversary of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway one hundred years of
this property and to really help everybody enjoy and celebrate
and be part of that, that was pretty awesome. At

(08:40):
Daytona property is fifty years old, very old aged. The
seat I sat in, my dad had like thirty tickets
ever since I was a young person. I'd go there
as a teenager. When I became president, the seat was
the same, a cut off top of a metal folding chair.
And so being tapped to lead a four hundred million

(09:01):
dollar renovation and in essence to walk in Bill France
Senior's footsteps and rebuild the Daytona International Speedway, you know,
that's a big deal in terms of the NASCAR world
and things like that. I think what's really been fun
for me in the golf world is there's such a
significant charitable focus right in terms of what we do

(09:21):
in the events that we have, whether it was at
Arnold Palmer Invitational and to support the Arnold Palmer Hospital
there with his name went up for over thirty five years,
and so everything we did at the tournament helped supports
kids' health in our market. That's a powerful thing when
you think about it. I do laugh. We created onesies
in the red cardigan look and feel, and any babies

(09:44):
that were born at his hospital got that onesie that
tournament week. So we also had fun with it. And
probably one thing personal that I'll never probably it'll stay
with me forever. The race car my grandfather had in
nineteen forty five six that finished fifth. We had it
in the museum at Indianapolis. I got to drive it

(10:05):
around the racetrack in pre race activities. So I'm driving
my grandfather's race car fifteen years later, and I got
to tell you a funny story. You know. It's it's
a roadster. Right engine, up front, open cockpit. You got
the steering wheel, okay, The gear shift is between your legs,
a clutch and a gas pedal. The brake is a

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lever on the outside of the car. Okay. So we're
cruising around the track, you know, maybe doing fifty or
sixty one lap second lap art. We're gonna pull in
pitt Lane and really stop at the end of pit lane. Well,
pit lane is crowded, there's bands, there's other teams, it's
all this stuff. So I go to slow down and
I'm like, break gear shift down, WHOA, how do you

(10:48):
do this? I don't have enough arms. I can't you know,
break and down shift, but no hand on the steering wheel.
And I'm thinking, don't be the guy that wrecks his
grandfather's race car fifty years years later. So at that point,
discretion is the better part of valors. So I stall
that bad boy and I don't think twice about it
because I did not want to be the story of
the day to wreck that car. So at all layers

(11:11):
of my career, there's been these moments where you know
whether it's making a difference, doing something so unique to
my family's history that for me, that's what keeps you motivated.
That's when with two and a half weeks to go
and you're working on caffeine and adrenaline, you keep after
it because you know this event will mean so much

(11:32):
to so many people. We've announced some phenomenal charitable partners
with the first t We're gonna have fifty of their
students as standard bearers. We'll let you get to follow
twosomes and keep this right, Think about a young person
who might be paired with Rory McElroy, the Grand Slam
winners twosome, and you get to keep his score for

(11:53):
eighteen holes. I mean us as adults would do that
in a heartbeat, right, We take that all day long.
And here you've got a young person in the first
TA program who might have that opportunity. Those are the
things I really enjoyed it to make a difference in
a young person's life as it relates to the sports,
whether it's when I was facing or golf. But the
fact you made a difference.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
By the way, that nineteen ninety two Nestle, I think
Fred Couples won that one at Bay Help and that
was the year he went on to win the Masters too.
The players, the Nestle and the Masters all within a
couple of weeks from each other. But anyway, that being said,
I mean you being a part of putting together some
of the biggest events, you know, in motorsports and working

(12:34):
with Arnold Palmer, how does that how does that set
you up to be the guy to put together a
golf tournament in a different venue in only ten months.
I mean, this is this is a real crunch time situation.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
It really is. And luckily I'm surrounded by a fantastic
team from the PGA Tour. I'm just not the only one.
I've got some individuals from pg Tour headquarters who raised
their hand and said I'm in. We've got some other
from some other parts of the country that have been
with the tour for years, and so you kind of
assemble a group of folks that have some experience, and
we're jumping in because we want to be part of

(13:09):
something special and to pull off one time only the
truest championship at the Philadelphia Cricket Club, which by the way,
is an absolutely proper venue. What a fantastic venue. You know.
The tilling has design. It's allowed us to create some
experiences we never would have at what I'll call more
mainstream builds, i e. More current. You know the fact

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there's two part three's a front line in back and
next to each other. We're building hospitality between the two,
so you can see both sides of it. But I digress.
You know, for me, you want to be part of
things that are special. You want to be able to
say you did something, you made a difference, and so
for me to jump in, happy to do it. Yeah,
maybe this week I might be grumbling a little bit

(13:54):
because it's tough to catch up on emails and you know,
manage some pres cup stuff at the same time. But
I'm the kind of guy. Look, we only have so
much time on this planet, right, and there's a point
where people will stop asking you to do stuff. I
don't want that to happen. I want to keep this
going for a while where people keep asking me to

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help and participate and jump in. I always love to
use this analogy. Imagine we're all cars, you know, and
we're running around doing whatever we do, and there's a
moment in time in our lives. We're going to pull
into the garage for the last time, right, and that
car is not going to leave that garage. I want
to pull in and when that engine gets turned off,
the tires pop, you know, the steam comes out of

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the radiator, the antenna's bent, engine falls out, the trunk
pops up, there's the windshield is cracked. I want to
get every damn mile out of it while I can.
I do not want to be the guy that pulls
that car and it's pristine, it's clean, there's no dust
on it, looks like it's never been driven. No, No,

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I want to wreck the hell out of the thing.
I want to put as much scar tissue on it
as possible so that I can say I enjoyed, lived, celebrated,
I got it all. And that's the way I think
you're supposed to do this right. Don't be the person
that would have should have be the person that I did,
didn't like it doing something that did. I did it,
I liked it. I'm doing some more of that. Let's go.

(15:20):
And I think that's what energizes me. And look, we
all enjoy sport, at least, I believe for the same reasons.
We see athletic achievement beyond our own capabilities. We see
what we dream we could do. When you watch Rory
McElroy win the Masters and the EBB and flow, the
up and down, the emotion of one behind, one up,

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one behind, hit it in the trap, made a bogey,
you have to go to the playoff and to see
him and how resilient he was on that playoff hole.
To stick at the three feet. That's why we watch
sports because we're witnessing something special and that's what motivates us.
So the fact that I get to be the person
who sets the stage and lets these athletes put on

(16:05):
a show so I can be a small part of it,
I think that's that's the best job you could ask
of me. And as you can tell, I don't really
get excited about anything. I'm kind of a boring guy,
you know. But you know, for me, that's what motivates me,
that what's made, So no matter what it might be,
let's give it a good shot at it, and we're
going to figure it out. And I've learned my lessons
along the way, you know, Daytona, you learn a lot

(16:28):
when you've got two hundred and fifty two thousand permanent seats. Heck,
I think we were doing like thirty thousand and GA,
so we've got close to three hundred thousand people on property.
You know, once you get through that and the planning
and effort, you can figure out some of the other
events along the way and make sure you've got a
good plan. But it starts with a good team, starts
with a great product, and you've got to have a

(16:49):
great venue, and I think we've got all of that
here at Philadelphia.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
Oh yeah, Well he's talking about the team. I want
to give you a chance to talk about the team
at Philly Kirkiey Club. I don't know if there's a
golf course talked about more than cricket Club on our show.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
We love the place.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
It is my favorite place to play when I when
I get a chance to play it, and we know
how special it is, and we know the people that
are there and what they're capable of. Now you know
they got they have a short run way too, and
we know what goes into planning these things for a course.
Just talk about that team there and what they've what
they've been like to work with.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
You know, I can't say enough great things about them.
You know, how accommodating in these gas it. I mean
just they are so on what we need to do.
And so it starts with Tom Sheridan, their president, who
just has a great way to look at the world
and really the leadership he displays. But then you know
you've got Dan Mehersman, who make sure that property is pristine.

(17:45):
The greens are phenomenal. I mean, he's all in on
making sure it's ready to take on the PGA Tour players.
And then Jim Smith, who's my favorite. Jim pulls no punches.
He is as direct and blunt and let's just say,
when I ask him like, Hey, is this person do
I need to know? Oh, don't worry about thors? Do
you want me to handle them? Now? He says that

(18:06):
in a different way to me in terms of what
he would do with that person. But I'm just kind
of editing myself for this show. But I enjoy the
heck out of those guys. We have been really aligned
from the get go, and you know, as you guys
might imagine, when you're not aligned on your business goals,
things can get a little haywire. And we don't have
a lot of time left pressures on, but we're all

(18:29):
feeling it together in the right way and helping each
other perform. And I can't say enough great things about
those guys. I really enjoy that, and I think this
is a perfect event for them, a signature event, top
seventy twenty million dollars person. You know, we could never
host a full size event there. We could never get

(18:49):
one hundred and forty four players. I mean it's just
too intimate of a property for us to manage it.
But this signature event, it is a perfect fit. And history,
I mean goodness, you're walking down they're eighteen, and you
get to the little creek and then you read the
plaque about how Tilling ass ashes were sprinkled in the creek.
That's real history and heritage. That means something. And I

(19:13):
think our players are going to appreciate the chance that
they never get to play a course like that, but
it's got real history and meaning and really the backstory
of Tilling, Asked and Crump, but all those guys hanging
out at Cricket Club that was their place, but then
they're out there designing all these other courses. So I
think it's a really unique story and happy that we

(19:35):
get to help tell it with the Cricket Club as
it relates to hosting the event.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Very cool, very cool.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
How did it all come about where? You know, because
they've known that they were going to have the PGA
at Quail hollanef for you know, quite a few years.
How did it all come about where Cricket Club was
the club that was chosen and it was sort of,
you know, forced to be scrunched up into a ten
month window.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
You know, we can all say planning, planning, planning, It
never really works out that way. It's how do you
pivot to the opportunities that are presented. Cricket Club has
been on our radar since about what twenty fifteen, twenty
sixteen when they hosted that senior event, and I think
that's what it's like. Oh yeah, constellation, like there's something there,
what could work, what might fit. But again, knowing the

(20:23):
size and the space constraints, you know, we really couldn't
think of it well Truest event or Truest taking over
from Wells Fargo Quail Hollow. We have to find a
one off location. It's a signature event, top seventy. Hey,
let's maybe give these guys a ring. This this might
actually work. I think Philadelphia as well. When you think

(20:46):
about markets that you want to be in, I mean,
think about this, it's crazy town, right. We think golf
is underserved in this market. You know, we see some
indicators that tell us, wow, there's a way, some motions
there you go. I give I share an example with
everybody that has blown me away. The first team built
Hyman and his team.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
They're the best.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
They're running two of the munies for the city of Philadelphia.
To the point they're so successful with Walnut Lane due
to their own capital campaign build their own clubhouse classrooms
in the back. I mean, no other First T chapter
in the US is running courses, let alone capital campaign
to build a clubhouse. Major props to them. But they

(21:29):
also take a course that wasn't performing as well and
now they're putting about forty thousand rounds a year on it,
like it's amazing. That tells you that just from that
side of golf, there's some interest here. Now we all
know these signature properties, right the other esteemed country clubs
in market. If there's a chance to find a location
that could host an annual event, I think there'd be

(21:50):
a lot of people interested. I think that's probably a
challenge though, because you're not going to find I think
the same appetite for annual event at some of the
private venues. So who knows where it leads. But I
think everything I've seen I would tell you that Philadelphia
and golf go quite well together, and maybe some folks
out there will see that as well. And who knows,

(22:11):
if they can come up with a plan to figure
it out, but I'd be a big fan of it.
I've really enjoyed the reception. It's been really well done.
And again you know, we've sold out Friday. We sold
out Saturday with grounds. We sold out sixty eight of
sixty eight suites. We have seen a phenomenal response. We
still have some products left the eighteen fifty four lounges.

(22:33):
I gotta tell you, guys, I've been doing this a while, right,
I've been selling hospitality for a long time in my life,
selling tickets. We have a venue at the Cricket Club.
I have never seen a venue like this. It's two stories,
eighteen fifty four lounge. And so I'll speak in member
routing or tournament routing. You can see five holes from
this venue. You get the fourteenth green, you get the

(22:56):
fifteenth tea box, the seventeenth green, the teenth tea box,
and the second green. I would I'd buy a ticket
and never leave the venue. I just go from rail
to rail to rail because I could see so much
of it. Again, that's a tilling ass design. We could
capitalize on this intimate course and fit this one venue
in one location. I don't think any other golf course

(23:18):
right now. Who hosts a PGA Tour event has a
venue like that that you can see five different holes.
So again we're taking advantage, you know, take advantage of
what you have, create something special and unique and for
those that get to be in there. And I think
Tom Sheridan, the president of the club, is gonna be
in there. I know that's gonna be one of our
better venues we've ever built.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah, and we're gonna talk.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
We're gonna be doing some giveaways next week on Fox
Sports the Gambler for the Michelo Ultra Club, which we'll
be in that in there as well. We will be
broadcasting live on Friday, which we're really looking forward to
getting out there and doing the show live from there.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
So he talked about we talked about an embarrassment.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
Of riches in Philadelphia when it comes to the golf
courses here. Have you got Have you had the chance
to experience any of the other golf in the in
the area.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
I have, So I did get to sample the course
that'll host the PGA Championship next year. So we've got
a really nice relationship with PGA of America. Ryan Ogle,
I think is doing a great job. We've got some
back and forth in terms of we're doing some things
to help him out for our event, and so had
a chance to sneak over there to Ronomic not to

(24:23):
play that, So again quite impressive. I don't know if
I have any time in my calendard, because you know
this events can happen, and I've got to go back
to Chicago. Would love to sample Marion. I make a
joke in my life, I have done a really good
job of playing bad golf at good golf courses, and
so I've had a chance to maybe scratch a gusta

(24:44):
off my list in Pine Valley and Cyprus and a
couple others Chicago Golf Club Oakmont. Who knew that people
want to garage passes so much in the NASCAR world
that they would let somebody left me play on some
golf courses. So I love we work all out with.

(25:04):
I will tell you I think I really enjoy just
a good walk on some of these majestic properties. The
design elements, the uniqueness of it, and it does put
in perspective how challenging it is to be a professional
golfer when you let a guy like me hack it
around and you just say, how do these guys do it?

(25:26):
And then how do they do it when the roopeline
is full, the TV's on you, and you've got that
pressure of everybody in the venue rooting for or against you.
You know, it takes it to another level. Again, It's tough.
Special sport is for people to perform when they need

(25:46):
to hit the last second shot, hit that wedge to
three feet to make the putt to win it, and
all the other things that we dream of to win
your championships or win your biggest events. So I am
I'm very impressed when I see these guys and the
difference between you know, the best and the guy who's
on undred and twenty fifth might be half a stroke around.

(26:08):
I mean, it is minischool and it just shows you
how much talent is out for and anybody can win
at any time.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Yeah, no doubt. When you're putting something together like this
that takes so much lead up time, you know, and
preparation and everything, then when the event actually starts, like,
is that is the pressure off then or is it
is it really just beginning? And then you got the
whole week to sort of ride it out until Sunday night.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
You know, that's a great question. I've I've seen some
interesting things in my life where you know, you can
have the greatest plans in the world, right, but it's
really how you respond to the things you didn't plan
for that's going to drive success or not. And I
can remember back in the day we were building some
racetracks and we had a team. It was their first event.

(26:54):
They didn't have any other events to run before that,
and had a great plan, but they had a couple
of things things some curveballs, and it kind of got
them kind of in its izzy a little bit because
they weren't thinking about that. But it's another team who'd
been you know, scar tissue from running dragstrip, a short
track of this, of that, and so when it came

(27:14):
time to run the big track, they were ready for
whatever came their way. And you just deal with it.
You know, there's moments of time you get frustrated, right,
you want the event to come off perfect. And I
always am a big fan of you know, hey, solve
the problem, get mad later. Right, there's a moment of
time you're gonna get mad. You have to you put
a lot of effort into it. We put nine months

(27:36):
into it. There's gonna be a moment where I'm gonna
be frustrated because something doesn't play out. But I just
got to solve the problem. And after that round that night,
I can vent my frustration. But I got to focus
on fixing the issue at hand. Make sure you do
a good job with it. And I think having a
team with experience who knows that you never have a
perfect event, and as long as you know that going in,

(27:58):
you're not going to be surprised. You get the curveball
and you just got to go deal with it and
fix it. You know, transportation will be fun for us,
and that's probably been the number one limiting factor in
terms of trying to garners. Many parking lots and locations
out there, different shuttles for different customers. I think we've
got a pretty good plan, but first day or two

(28:22):
we'll learn some things we probably hadn't thought of just yet,
and we'll fine tune along the way and get better
and better. You know that one side of the Valley
Green Road, you know, you have a seven foot hype restriction,
so we really have one road in and one road out.
That's wow, Okay, one road in, one road out like

(28:44):
how do we do this? And so I think our
opskys have done a really good job of thinking through that.
I will say we identified a fantastic ride share location
right on the opposite side of Militia Hill golf Course,
where fans can then walk across Militia right to the
main entrance to the whistle Hikett. I would highly recommend
that we actually got lucky in finding that perfect location.

(29:08):
We've got great parking lots, we'll have great shuttles, but
rides here is a safer option based on its location
and the ability to them to walk to the entrance
once you're dropped off.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
Awesome, Joey, listen, thank you so much for joining us
Truest Championship Philly Cricket Club.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Starting May seventh, we will be out there on that Friday,
broadcasting live.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
Make sure you come and see us and stay tuned
all next week Fox Sports. The Gambler will be giving
away passes for the michelob Ultraar Club, which offers You're right,
that's seventeenth and eighteenth, right, Joey, right in between.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
You'll have it.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
Just as you talked about some of the different spots
in there. It's like no other place.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
I'll share one last thing our competition. Guys who set
up the course, love seventeen and eighteen, two long tight
part fours. You want to win this event, great, You're
gonna score on fourteen scorn fifteen, which we're playing, is
the par five, maybe even sixteen to part three. You
better hold on tight to win. You're gonna have to
play two really long, tight holes. We're talking like four

(30:10):
eighty five five hundred yard par fours and that's gonna
separate everybody. And whoever does hoist that trophy up, they
will have earned it by surviving those two finishing holes.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
Love it and also great logo by the way, we
were checking it out with about the press day.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Awesome logo. You're gonna sell some merch. We know that
for sure. Philly people love merch. Joe Chitwood, thank you
for joining us.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
We'll have to get you on before the President's Cup
as well. To talk about Medina in the next week,
but we'll let you worry about that in a couple
of weeks.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
A couple weeks, just give me a couple weeks and
we'll get there. Thanks, guys, really appreciate the time.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Thanks Jerry, Let's take a quick break and we will
be right back. All right, Welcome back to Swing It
and Ding It. Great to talk to joe Chipwood.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
I was impressed by Joey when we were out there
at the media day, Like you could tell that guy.
I mean, he's got the energy, he's got the experience.
When you run an event like the day tone of
five hundred, everything else is not as hard.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
He can work the room. I mean, you know, he
knows how to work the room. And yes, I mean
it's just amazing what they've been able to do. When
you realize the time constraints, you know, putting together an
event like this in a different venue in ten months,
it's pretty crazy, you know. And I think it's going
to come off, you know, perfectly, yep.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
And the Philly community is so excited to embrace it.
I don't know how many people I've had message me
being like, do you have a connection with tickets? Like
literally so many people. So I think there's going to
be really solid turnout.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
It's interesting too, ride Share.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
You know, when they talked about the fact that it
is a signature event, right, you know, I didn't really
think of that, right because it's a smaller.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Field, right, they're able to do it.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
Yeah, but it is such a massive event because it's
a signature event. It's interesting like if if if the
format were as it were a couple of years ago,
that the tournament would not would not be here. So
very very interesting. Another classic venue. We look at the
RBC Heritage. JT gets win for sixteen man, his first

(32:18):
in three years, comes out firing, gets the course record
of sixty one on Thursday, then goes I think sixty nine,
sixty nine, and then it was all about Sunday, back
and forth and uh Novak, right, who's who's been on
the leader board and.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
He's been lurking, he's talking about him for a while.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
You have been you've been on him and he was
close by player and the invitational.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
You know that's right, exactly, that's right.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
But but JT gets done and you could see another
guy who uh, you know, the emotion comes out of him.
Three years a long time for a guy who had
had fifteen wins at that point, right, Like this isn't
a guy who just you know, has a couple wins
and trying for another one, Like this is a guy
who's expecting to win every week he goes out there.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
So call me crazy, but I feel like Bud Culey
is starting to have some success kind of put a
little sparkre JT. I feel like he's like, hey, that's
that's my boy, Like look at him like kind of
like get it back together, you know, let's go. And
he's been kind of surging up the leaderboard since that.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Yeah, And how does Max Homa feel? Not only is
he playing like crap and including last week, but his
caty goes on and wins with a new guy, a
new bag in two weeks and he was reading a
lot of the putts for him. That was very interesting.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
How about that?

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Right?

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (33:34):
I mean yeah, you saw the he saw the joy
rise you always do and on eighteen. But that's interesting
because Max played really well in the Masters. He did, right,
he did, and then JT gets a win.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Yeah, unbelievable. I mean one thousand and sixty four days,
two years, eleven months, you mentioned it, almost three years
moose between wins and he goes bogie free in the
final round, just three hunder par for a sixty eight.
But he had a really like conservative approach throughout the
entire round, especially on the par five the fifteenth, the
only one on that back side, and he ends up

(34:07):
making birdie. But a lot of guys were trying to
take it up over the trees and.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Cut the corner.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
You saw Scotty do it and end up in the water.
And basically just that was the end of his tournament.
He was trying to make a run. He had to
do that, you know, because he's not playing for fifth place.
He's trying to win it. But you know, JT took
a very conservative approach about it, and he kind of
did that throughout the week. He was sort of plotting
his way around that golf course and made the clutch

(34:32):
par on sixteenth after he hit it over the green.
And then they get to, you know, to eighteen, and
Novak has a ten foot putt to win the tournament
and you're thinking, man, this is it. He's gonna be
wearing a Tartan jacket. And he misses it. And as
soon as he missed that, I said to my wife,
it's over. JT is the winner. Like I just knew
Novak wasn't gonna win it. And you know, only took
one hole and he makes a twenty one footer for

(34:54):
bird to clinch it, and you just saw it, not
like Rory the week before, but the relief was it
was palpable and you could see his dad. His dad
was reacting, I think way more than j T was
in the moment and you could just see the you know,
he's basically breaking down. He was going.

Speaker 5 (35:12):
So the most watched final round of the RBC Heritage
in twenty three.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Years, is that right?

Speaker 5 (35:19):
Four point three six two million viewers the average number
of fans who turned you know out this past weekend.
And then that was up from last year's two point
one five mil over Scheffler's win. So yeah, two point
one five to four point three six to four point
three six two.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Interesting looking at the looking at the lederboards.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
Burger who continues to improve, gets the T three guys Burger.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Five on Sunday.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
That's right Harmon who Harmon's going to be on the
Ryder Cup team much to your Chigren Maverick McNeely, another
guy in the TVA Fleetwood at seventh. Then you had
a bunch of th eight si Wu who was threatening
for a while, and that's where Scheffler and and and
son Jayware along with with Henley now talk to me

(36:07):
about Scheffler for a little bit, right, because it's just
weird when he doesn't win.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Yeah, Like, do you think.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
He's still figuring some stuff out? I still think he's
He was a setback with the injury. I talked about
it like pretty much every week on the show. But
I don't know if something just looks like it's not
totally clicking for him.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Well, I kind of think it's the weight of expectation, uh,
you know, trying to follow up a year like he
had last year with all those wins, the gold medal,
you know, and and just dominant. He was dominant on
the PGA to outside of Schofflet's two major wins, he
dominated the tour. And now it's you're trying to like,
how how do I, you know, how do I live

(36:45):
up to that? You know, when you had the the
issue in the off season, which you know set him back.
But I don't think it's so much that now as
it's like, man, you know, now I haven't won in
three months or whatever, you know, here we are passing.

Speaker 5 (36:59):
It's kind of lingering it lingering injury. I don't know.
I just think mentally how he is and just you
know how He's.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Frustration is showing every week. Now. He did it last
week too, slammed that club. He took it back from
from the caddy and bam, like he wanted to break it.

Speaker 5 (37:17):
Yeah, but even at the like thing like hey, you know,
I'm going to walk out, like let's just go for
the middle of the green, back it up and go home.
So it's like there's different things that frustration that would
support Harry's case and then the other thing just being like, ah,
you know, I'm getting what a granda shot. It's not
like I need to grind it out here.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
He's just he's going to get a win one of
these weeks. And I feel like that's just going to
set him right back with resurgence good because he's you know,
it's not like he's in thirtieth right.

Speaker 5 (37:44):
Or like well that's the thing is lingerings mental whatever,
and it's what he's finishing.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yeah yeah with his B minus or C game, he's
still like in the top ten.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Yeah yeah yeah ye still force.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
Well another another tough break if you will.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
It was the corrals.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
Oh Joel Damon, he was the winner in twenty one.
He's up one with three to play. Goes bogey on
sixteen seventeen inside two feet missus the putt bogey eighteen bogie,
he goes your winner. How and you know, he's been
gracious with the press. He's been talking about he's been
a very open person. I think full Swinger really brought

(38:23):
that out of him last year.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
Yeah, but man, I his quote it was tough to watch.

Speaker 5 (38:28):
If anyone is wondering what it feels like to give
away a golf tournament, it sucks. I'm learning from it
and we'll have another chance. The amount of support and
well wish has've ever seen it has been amazing. I
want to thank everyone for that onward and upward. But
oh my god, I mean wired a wire. Like when
I was looking at a scorecard the first day, I
was like, how is anybody gonna touch this? And then

(38:49):
the second day like I'm woanta shot like ten under
the first day like Bogeie freeg is like nine ten
bird He's like, yeah, that's tough. And then Moos just
recapped that ending for us, like I I probably still
wouldn't be able to sleep if that were may.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
No either, Yeah, I definitely wouldn't be staying off Voka
like I am if.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
I right back on, no question about it.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Right on the wagon, I would have injected into into
my veins, hitting.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
Me the juggular not even right.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Yeah, but that was yeah, that was pretty brutal man,
I tell you. But getting back to the other tournament,
I mean ludvig Oberg disappointing T fifty four and you
talk about a guy who's just out of gas right now,
needs needs a rest.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
I just hope he's so young too.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
I think we keep forgetting about that.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
I mean, yeah, yeah, but you know he's he just
looks like a guy who shot right now needs it.
You know, hopefully he comes back, you know, ready to
go for the truest. But Tigala Homa we mentioned and
Dunlap yeah, dead last. I mean, the poor play continues.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
I just think about it, think about our own games
right like that. It's just golf is so crazy. How
like you can go out there one day and be
like man, I just everything is just clicking, I'm feeling it,
and the.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Next you could play the next day and that is gone.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
Yeah right, So to see completely, to see what Scotty
did last year with that kind of consistency and the
great players over the years that are always in the
top ten, top five. It's insane, you know, for people
that listen and people like us who play it at
a completely different level, just to know how hard of
a game it is. And even the shortest pot's how
you have to concentrate the guy to get that ball

(40:28):
in the hole. It's just not going to go in.
It's pretty nuts, it really is.

Speaker 5 (40:33):
Oh yeah, and we're playing well with two or three
of our buddies, not in front of anybody, not with
any money, not with job security, not with anything on
the line. Well money, okay, so you're you're ten bucks
a whole versus money, yeah yeah, yeah yeah, but all
the other things I mean, I mean money, money on

(40:54):
the line, not like playing money on the line.

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Speaker 4 (41:18):
It's just the for for for what I need, you know,
not paying that crazy number which drives me crazy, especially
courses like I went down to Hammock Beach. Hammock Beach,
anytime there's something beach, you know you're going to lose.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
There's water, there's water.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
Yeah, but listen, let's let let me just tie up
a mcbeach. What an awesome, pleasant surprise that that place was.
Our friend Lewis, who we had on was kind enough
to uh to host me for a round on the
ocean course, which is the.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Nicholas one, that's the Jack Nicholas with six hole on
the ocean.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
Listen, I was getting teeth of the dog vibes when
I was there.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
I was getting a tiny little bit of the you know,
Monterey Peninsula, some of the whole. Like I'm telling you,
it just isn't an awesome place. First of all, Lewis
is a player. By the way, this guy did not
miss a fair way the entire time we played. He
was tapping in bird He's left and right. Awesome guy
to play with. We had a blast. We played with
this other guy, Nick, who just played with us, who

(42:26):
was chipping like I've never seen a human being chip
in my life.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
But just a blast.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
I mean, the course was just it's so good. And
I think there's some news coming up about I know,
I know Lewis kind of talked about it by the
Champion Store event coming back there, and rightfully so because
it's beautiful. But to me, it is the perfect place
for like you have some couples that want to do
a trip, now, whether the ladies play or not, or
whether you have a bunch of guys, you know, couples

(42:52):
that go and the guy's play and the girls still
have like an amazing time, or with families with kids
whose there's plenty to do. With families, the place was
awesomes were incredible. Lewis's wife is as the general manager
at Delfino's, which was one of the best restaurants I've
eaten that in a long time, right on property. Several restaurants, yes,
I mean, just tremendous. The kids had a blast. The

(43:14):
pool huge like five pools, lazy river, beautiful beach.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Saying, oh yeah, I took advantage. I took of that.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Were you able to play the Watson or a course.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
Now, I just I just got one in, just got
one round in because it was it was a different
type of trip. It was like it was we were
going away for spring break and I was sneaking in around.
But yeah, but I I enjoyed myself. It was some
of the holes back on the ocean where some of
the prettiest golf holes I've ever played, for sure, So
make sure.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
You check it out.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
And uh, I would definitely put it on the list.
It plus the cool part is too, Like if you're
going down with a group where you're located, right, you're
fifteen twenty minutes from Saint Augustine, you have the World
Golf Hall of Fame, like everything is so close. You
could do like a trip with a whole bunch of
other places too, But Panavitra is not that far up
the coach No, no, yeah, yeah, great spot, great location.

(44:07):
And if you get a chance, check it out. Tell
them who sent you. You don't pay for nothing.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
Yeah, great time.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
What kind of rental clubs did they hook you up with?

Speaker 3 (44:19):
They were they were great.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
There were a titleist actually I think it was I
think it was actually a callaway like Woods.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
Okay, but they were they were good. They were really
good clubs, really good clubs. The putter, I was, I
was hot with the putter actually beautiful.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
Yeah, I almost took that sucker home with me. But yeah,
great stuff.

Speaker 5 (44:40):
You play with rental that like that. You're like, let's go,
I'm ordering this and then you get home you get it.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
You're like.

Speaker 5 (44:46):
Somebody else, like work the magic into the Sepapore. Yeah, I'm.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
Hoping to have hope and have some some trip giveaways
with the doing it and ding it family will be
doing maybe at our golf outing to get some people
down there to experience it, because it's an awesome problem.
Once you're there and you pull into the property, it's
like you know, you're you don't need to leave the
place for days. There's plenty to do.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
Fly America included.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
Yeah, and my in laws have a place in like
the border of Daytona and Ormond, which is about another
thirty miles south.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
But even when I stay there, I fly to. I'd
use Jacksonville because.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
It's it's maybe ten minutes fifteen minutes further than a
drive to Orlando, but not dealing with Orlando Airport or that.
I four like to me, Jacksonville's to move when you're flying.
There was easy in and out, no problems, a piece
of cake. Yeah, move Danielle, you got some ta we sure,
do spill it all right.

Speaker 5 (45:45):
So, I don't know if you guys saw this. We
have US Open qualifying starting to come out and Moose,
I kind of thought of you with this one because
it's a little hockeyck oh.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
I saw that Great Rangers J T.

Speaker 5 (45:56):
Millers trying to qualify for the twenty twenty five US Open,
So that news has circulated. People are releasing kind of
the list of people who are trying to qualify, and
he was on there. So I thought that was a
little fun tedbit.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (46:14):
Pinehurst announced this construction of Eleventh Course by Corn Crenshaw.
So another course is coming to Pinehurst and Minz. This
one will be built, as I said, by Koran Crenshaw
and is expected to open fall of twenty twenty seven.
So some of the drone Flyovers, golf digests or part
of me golf dot com had out it's pretty cool

(46:35):
looking tons of property. But I mean eleventh Course.

Speaker 4 (46:39):
A big group of guys from the Legacy Club just
went last week. I think there was like eight ten guys.
They had a blast, played like five or six courses. Yeah,
rave reviews. I've yet to go. That's that's at the
top of the list for sure. They said it was incredible.
So everyone says like they played two, but they played ten.

(47:00):
Everyone loves ten as well. So yeah, it's definitely great spot.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
The natural area down there's perfect for core French Shaw
designs too.

Speaker 5 (47:08):
Oh yeah, I'm sure it's gonna be stunning. Yeah, prep
for the Open Championship. Uh, there is a house on
the drive in. I don't know if the side of
that house has a what is this one? Two maybe
two three story mural? Oh, Shane Lowry holding like the

(47:29):
Open Championship in his hands, just like smiling with like
the course in the background, the entire house, like I said,
like two three story house painted on there. So I
don't know if they are relatives extreme fans combination.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Well, they're Irish, They're all relatives. Yeah, they're all related.

Speaker 5 (47:54):
Being a Philly podcast, obviously we try to share as
much Philly news as possible. This one not so great,
unfortunate news. Jay Siegel, the most accomplished us A Walker
Cup player of all time, has passed away. So saw
that news coming out.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
League Golf Royalty, right, Harry literally.

Speaker 5 (48:14):
Royalty, I mean nine appearances in the USA Walker Cup,
eighteen victories, thirty three matches, overall record eighteen ten and five.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
There's an argument to being made that he's the greatest
amateur player ever and Hall of fame. Two time US
AM Champ, three time US mid Am Champ. He won
the British Amateur. You mentioned about the nine Crump Cup winners,
the nine Walker Cups, Danielle, he was the low guy,
the low amateur at the Masters three times. He's won

(48:47):
the Pennsylvania Amateur ten times. He won the Pennsylvania Open
four times, the PGA Champions Tour, Rookie of the Year,
the Bob Jones Award winner, and also raised tons of money,
millions and millions of dollars for cancer research by hosting
his own event for over thirty years over at Aronomy.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
So what a.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
Legacy that Jay Siggle has U has left and uh
cancer for a long time and he fought hard and
it's a it's a big loss. And I was glad
to see or glad to hear that. Jim nantz uh
you know, mentioned that on the broadcast on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Yeah, well doubt, no doubt, Yep.

Speaker 5 (49:28):
That wraps the tea for me.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
All right, Well, let's uh, let's talk about the Zora Classic.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
It's funny. I hadn't watched a bunch of the full
Swing episodes.

Speaker 4 (49:37):
I downloaded them for the plane ride and I was
rewatching the Rory Lowry.

Speaker 5 (49:44):
I've been circulating all over because I was like trying
to find more news and it's like this is last year,
but that it just kept popping up.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
Yeah. Yeah, Billy horsseall with Drew. I don't know if
you guys saw that. It's just in case you're getting
your picks in, make sure to.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Play with Hope that out. They were actually a pretty
good and him. I was looking at them, Yeah, he's so. Yeah,
there are a lot of good teams. It's an interesting event.
I mean you talk about Rory, I mean he apparently
he went, I guess to see his mom and dad
for a couple of days after winning the Masters and
the Green Jacket, you know when he's having a good
time and apparently got sick a little bit. He was

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under the weather for a couple of days. So I
don't know what kind of shape he's going to be
in to play this with the hangover the Masters. Had
he not won the Masters, I would have definitely taken
Shane Lowry this week to piggyback to get Rory for
nothing in the one and done. Now that he won
the Master, Yeah, yeah, you just picked the other guy
and then you get you know, the bigger player for

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you know, for free. It doesn't cost just a Rory
McElroy us. Uh So, now that he won it, it's
kind of thrown into a you know, I took a
different grouping, but the TPC Louisiana. This has been a
team event since twenty sixteen. Twenty seventeen to parse seventy
two seventy four hundred and thirty five yards. It's a

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peak dye design, a lot of peak dye designs on
the PGA tour back in two thousand and four. The
average green size fifty two hundred and twenty five square
feet and they stimp around twelve. They're poa overseed on
the greens and collars and the fairways, approaches.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
And rough are all various.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Forms of bermuda grass. There's one hundred and six bunkers,
five water hazards, and their water is in play on
eight of the eighteen holes. It's long with smalleish greens
and really really flat. The final three holes is sixteenth
is a short par four. They can when they move
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but they can. They can move the tease up. There's
water left of the green. The seventeenth is a long
par three with water all the way up the left
hand side, a long one at two hundred and fifteen yards.
And then the eighteenth is a long par five five
hundred and eighty five yards, slight dog leg left or
dog leg right, excuse me, with water all up the
right hand side, a lot of water on the closing holes. Uh,

(52:01):
you know, it's it's just a fun event, you know,
the different formats. I think, you know, Keigan Bradley is
gonna have an eye on this event to see, you
know how maybe certain guys play together. That Novak and
Griffin team I think could be a team to watch.
And Keith Mitchell with J T. Postin, I think that
that could be a pretty pretty interesting The Hoyguards are

(52:24):
teaming together for.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
Right now, Donald's gonna.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Be looking at that one. So there you go for
the Penn Club at second I don't think they have
this one in their in their library. The TPC Louisiana,
but typical Pete Die.

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Speaker 4 (55:14):
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Speaker 2 (55:18):
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Speaker 4 (55:19):
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But Harry one of the other guys in that when
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Speaker 1 (55:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:34):
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Speaker 5 (55:55):
So would you take Ry?

Speaker 3 (55:57):
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Speaker 1 (56:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
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Speaker 1 (56:08):
Well Ry can hit it straight, that's for sure. We
know that out of that pairing. If they can sink
some potts, who knows. Yeah, but yeah, you mentioned Hogy's out,
So I wonder Horsel's out. I wonder if they're if
they're going to repair Hogy with an alternate or if
he's They did they did, yeah, you know who it was.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
Yeah, they said it was the first alternate. Let's see,
of course, because I.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
Know I think Nick Cale took Billy, Horsel and Tom.
I'm not going to nick Cale.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
They did not pair him with Nick.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
I'm not going to let him know that he withdrew.
Hopefully he'll just get a zero.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
Oh, Kevin Chappell, he's the tournament.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
He's playing interesting.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
Yeah, he was a winner in.

Speaker 5 (56:53):
San Let him just get there. I like it.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
No, I'm just gonna let him get the zero. Yeah,
my Google, you know what I mean? Yeah, you know,
but no Vak and Griffin. No Vak and Griffin. I
like in the top ten.

Speaker 5 (57:11):
I didn't realize they're playing together.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Mitchell and Posting. You mentioned I like that first round leader.
Mitchell is an unbelievable first round leader guy. Yeah, and
Posting can make putts, so that's an interesting pairing. But
I took I took Grazerman Andvaria.

Speaker 5 (57:28):
They both go and like that my team. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Yeah, I took Max because I might use n later
in the year and in one of the like Rocket
Mortgage or something like that. So I took Grazerman as
my guy.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
I could see that Eric Cole top Tenny that Saunders,
Oh wow, well yeah they're big buddies.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Yeah, they're they're big. They're big friends. Interesting, they probably
played a ton of golf together. They know each other's games,
like the you know, they know their own.

Speaker 5 (58:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Yeah, I actually liked this event. It's you know, the
team stuff, you know. I know we might rip it
on when it comes to live, but I think you know,
one team event. Two team events a year is kind.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
Of cool, especially like in between the majors, right, yeah,
it's yeah, it's.

Speaker 5 (58:17):
And it's different than live too, there is not there's
music and shorts, you know what I mean, like and
the all the different formats with the alternate.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Shot, and there's alligators and great food.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Yeah. They always set up this big thing where where
all the chefs from New Orleans, from Bourbon Street and
stuff come out and bring all their weares. It must
have been awesome.

Speaker 5 (58:36):
We were out there two years. It was a blast.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Yeah. I bet that's right. You were. That's right. They
got seventh, didn't they get a t seventh finish?

Speaker 5 (58:44):
Yeah? Yeah, almost played this year.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Memory is still pretty good.

Speaker 5 (58:49):
I mean, you're your memory is incredible, Harry. So it
is your new haircut?

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Yeah you like that?

Speaker 2 (58:53):
I do.

Speaker 5 (58:54):
Yeah it looks good.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Yeah, thank you? Good looking good?

Speaker 3 (58:58):
Well, thank you to Joey Chitwood.

Speaker 4 (59:00):
Yeah, reminder just we'll post it to but we're gonna
be giving away passes. They're awesome too, right between seventeen
and eighteen beautiful.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
Yeah, some drinks in there, cush yeah, yep, yeah.

Speaker 4 (59:14):
We'll have them and we'll be roaming around there too,
so you can hang out with us and uh yeah,
more to come on that next week. And then if
you're out there on Friday, we will be broadcasting live
with Sean Brace Fox Sports The Gambler from two to five,
So we'll post where we're gonna be set up so
you can come come say hi.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
I'm gonna be doing some video on Monday at the
Golf Association of Philadelphia's Play Day at Bluebell for their website,
going around with a foursome and videotaping a lot of
our golf and I'll be talking to all the folks,
So be pretty kind of a fun event.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
Yeah, that content, Yeah beautiful.

Speaker 4 (59:52):
All right, guys, thank you, thanks again Joey Chipwood and
thanks for listening.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
Back next week, yeah, but listen swing It and Dangett