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The US Supreme Court early this morning issued an order
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that temporarily stops the President from deporting anyone under the
Alien Enemies Act. They at least or now have blocked
the deportation of a group of Venezuelan migrants illegal aliens,
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whom the Trump administration was trying to remove under that
wartime act. The order came really early this morning after
lawyers for the aliens asked the justices to step in
on an emergency basis. To halt these deportations as reports
came that the that Immigrations and Customs Enforcement was beginning
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to load these detainees onto buses for deportation under the Act. Now,
it's worth noting I'll read you the order in just
a second, but it's worth noting that both Justice Thomas
and Justice Alito descended from the order. Lee Gerland, an
attorney with the ACLU, Look, I think I think everyone,
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whether you're in this country legal illegally, listen closely. If
you are subject to the territorial jurisdiction of this country,
meaning that you are in the within the boundaries of
the United States of America, you are entitled to Fourth
Amendment procedural and substantive due process before you have any
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of your rights taken away or before you are deported. However,
when you have already received a deportation order, that means
that an immigration judge or an administrative law judge has
reviewed your case. You've had the opportunity to present a defense.
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You've had the opportunity to cross examine witnesses if you
wanted to. You've had the opportunity to do whatever you're
entitled to do in an immigration court. And once that
order is entered, then boom, you have received your due
process rights and it's over. And I don't care whether
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that happened yesterday or it happened ten years ago. If
it happened ten years ago, as may or may not
be the case in uh, oh, what's the guy's name,
Garcia that's down in El Salvador right now, Even if
it occurred ten years ago, you got your due process.
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You've just evaded. Oh. You probably didn't even really have
to evade being captured and deported because nobody was looking
for you, because no president until Trump came along. In
Trump two point zh had made a vow to you
know what, we're gonna get rid of these people. Particularly,
We're gonna start with the criminal, illegal aliens, and then
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we're gonna start moving down the tier, the hierarchy, and
we're just gonna start a mass deportation of people who
are in this country illegally. That's what we wanted, that's
what we voted for, and that's what he's doing. I
would argue that quite frankly, as much as I approve
of what he's doing, I don't think it's enough. I
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think we need to see more plane loads. I think
we need to see more people because I'm hearing stories,
and I'm reading stories, and I'm beginning to confirm stories
that some people are watching these deportations and they're beginning
to self deport Why I call that a win win.
Go back to this attorney for the ACLU. He's quoted
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today as saying, these men were in imminent danger of
spending their lives in a horrific form prison without ever
having had a chance to go to court. We are
relieved that the Supreme Court has not permitted the administration
to risk them away the way others were just last month. No,
let's wait a minute. Let's think about and remember today
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I would ask you to think about everything in the
context of of domestic terrorism, whether that when I say
domestic terrorism, I want to define it. I don't necessarily
mean terrorism perpetrated by American citizens or terrorism perpetrated by
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foreign nationals. I'm talking about terrorism that occurs on American soil.
So that's the definition we're going to use for the
purposes of this conversation. If you're a member of a gang,
I don't care whether it's Trendo Arragua, the Venezuelan gang,
or it's MS thirteen, the Al Salvadoran gang. I don't
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care which gang it is. If you're a member of
a criminal organization and you're not here in this country legally,
I believe the President has the right to determine that
you as a group are a foreign terrorist organization and
you are subject to deportation under the Alien Enemies Act,
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because let's think about what these organizations do. What these
organizations do is they kill innocent civilians, They destroy, extort,
rob everything that you can possibly imagine to businesses. They
make communities live in fear, literally live in fear. They
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came here illegally, they're a foreign terrorist organization as determined
rightfully so by the President of the United States, which
he has the right to do. Isn't it interesting that, oh,
we could determine, oh, I don't know, al Qaeda. Let's
just pick al Qaeda, the mother of all terrorist organizations,
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or maybe not anymore. I'm not sure the President has
the right to determine that that is a foreign terrorist organization.
And if you're found operating on American soil under the
Alien Enemies Act, you can be removed from this country.
And I don't think that This is one reason why
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we have GIPMO. We have GIPMO because when we capture
someone overseas, we don't want to bring them this to
this country because we don't want to affust Do you
really want clique shake Mohammad Ksm, the mastermind behind nine
to eleven. Do you really want him in a Manhattan
courtroom getting the opportunity to make his case to you know,
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here's a lawyer who believes absolutely in a constitution, absolutely
believes in the rights to do process. But sometimes you
lose those rights. Sometimes you are not entitled to those rights.
And if you've been an enemy combatant or you're on
American soil and you are a part of a domestic
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terrorist organization, I don't think you have a right to
do process. But set that aside for a moment, because
many of these have already received their due process, because
they already have deportation orders against them. And you can't
get a deportation order unless a judge has adjudicated you
as being in this country unlawful and subject to removal.
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Now Trump is using a no It is novel. I
grant you that a novel application of the Alien Enemies
Act of seventeen ninety eight to claim that these powerful gangs,
and they are powerful, are equivalent to foreign governments in wartime.
And I would argue that they are because they're operating
here under the auspices of Nicholas Maduro, and they were
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operating under the auspices of the previous president of El Salvador.
Although the current president of El Salvador said I'm going
to clean you up, I'm going to destroy you. They were,
in effect state actors, foreign state actors operating illegally on
American soil. I say, get their butts out of here.
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to make certain that we understand that there's a series
of cases that are all separate yet tied together in
one way, that are being heard by Judge Boseburg, who
is a federal trial judge in the DC Circuit. It's
being held and heard by a different panels of judges
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on the DC Court of Appeals. And then there's the
US Supreme Court that's hearing some about some things about
all of these cases. And now today because of the
Court's ruling it coming out about one o'clock this morning,
there are now some cases being filed in Texas. The
ACLU must be on a money raising Benz right now,
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trying to get all the money they can trying to
protect these illegal aliens. But I want to go back
to make certain that you understand that the Court has
said that the Alien Enemies Act can be used to
deport people as long as there is notice and due process.
I don't have a problem with that.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
They're not facilitating it, and they got to start answering
these questions. So there's also a word there may be
more imminent deportation, more suspected Venezuelan gang members under what's
called the Enemy Aliens Act.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
We've heard that. Remind us what that is again?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
And weren't those deportations on hold by a court?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, you're right, Bret. So remember those planeloads that went
out and that district Judge Boseburg said, wait a minute,
I said, you've got to turn them around. Why did
they everly, he's trying to still get answers on how
that happened. Well, tonight we are hearing, as Jackie did,
some reporting there that there is potentially another round of
deportation about to happen out of Texas.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
So now this is from yesterday Friday, and they're talking about, yes,
there are planeloads. I think there were a couple of
planes they were down in Texas that were going to
take off last night or sometime in the middle of
the night to go back to El Salvador. That's what
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Shannon Breen here on Fox News is referring to.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Oh, the group of Venezuelan men there say they have
filed in a number of different courts, including that emergency
filing with the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court did say
five to four just days ago, you can use the
Alien Enemies Act two de poort people, but you have
to give them some effort at notice and do process. Tonight,
this group of men, their attorney's ACLU, are arguing they
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don't have the notice, they don't have the time to
challenge what they call imminent deportations.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
And that's a factual question. It's it will be decided
in the legal context of what exactly kind of notice
and process are they entitled to. Let's go back to Garcia.
That's the main character in this entire fiasco going on
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right now. This is the one where Senator Van Hollend
from Maryland has gone to El Salvador to sit down
with him because he believes that this illegal alien who
is a member of MS thirteen. And I would just
add as a footnote here, I've looked at the documents.
You can easily find all the documents online where law
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enforcement from different parts of the country have determined based
upon his gang affiliations, his tattoos, his activities, everything, that
he is a member of MS thirteen. And you can
actually read the orders that the judges have entered that
said you are now subject to removal. For this lawyer,
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that's all the due process he's entitled to, and he's
subject to removal, and he was removed. Now, whether or
not some of these current people being held now being
held back in Texas have received that similar kind of
due process, well, that's a factual matter to be determined
on an individual basis. I'm not going to argue one
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way or the other, but I want you to think
about this. Joe Biden, the Biden administration, Alejandro Mayorcus, the
Secretary of Homeland Security under him, literally under under their
temporary protective status procedures, brought planeloads of illegal aliens from Venezuela, Haiti, Cuba,
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and I think there was in Nicaragua, brought planeloads of
them to this country. I think that was a violation
of the Immigration and Naturalization Act. I think that was
a crime to literally just fly to Venezuela, Nicaragua, wherever,
pick up planeloads of illegal aliens and bring them to
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this country. Let me take off my lawyer hat for
a moment. If if that is determined to be lawful,
which I don't think that it is. But if it were,
then why can't those very same people be reloaded on
planes and removed from the country. They were brought here
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illegally by this government, by the United States government. I
don't think the government has any standing, and I don't
mean standing in a legal sense. I don't think they
have any basis upon which to argue that. All. Well,
now you've got to give them all their Fourth Amendment rights.
Wait a minute, you the you know the Fourth Amendment
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guarantees that the government will give you due process. Well,
you took away their entitlement to do process by you, yourself,
as the government bringing them here. So we're going to
pack you up and take you back. That may seem extreme,
but that's the point I'm at with these because we're
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now playing these legal games that are doing nothing but
delaying the removal of known gang members of two of
the worst gangs in the history of mankind. And that's
saying something when you think of some of the gangs
over the course of history of not sending them back.
And the Democrats, for whatever bizarre reason, are absolutely focused
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on this one guy Garcia, because for whatever reason, he's
just a Maryland Dad, how bad is it in terms
of the democrats?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Congressman, iving thank you for being here.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
There is.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
I've been talking about this all week. But Jane Nelson
of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, she pinned a op
ed in the Nation this week, and her op ed
talked about that we think the democracies are the way
they die is dramatically through these wars and blood is shed,
and it's cinematic in a sense, but really the realistic
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way in which democracies die is it is dismantled, brick
by brick, piece by piece. And she says that what
we are seeing now with the lawlessness from this administration.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Think about the ironic they are any of that here
is here's a host on MSNBC complaining about the so
called the putitive lawlessness of this administration when I just
described for you the lawlessness of the previous administration. Now
I'm not saying that one justifies the other, but don't
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you find it deliciously ironic that they're all of a
sudden they're very concerned about lawfulness when we have gang
members brought here by the previous administration and now all
we're trying to do is get them back the hell
out of the country. You'll hear what they have to
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say because they take it to an absurd level. And
I'll tell you what the Supreme Court said at about
one o'clock this morning too. It's the Weekend with Michael Brown.
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The former FEMA director of talk show host Michael Brown.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Brownie, no, Brownie.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
You're doing a heck of a job.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
The Weekend with Michael Brown. Hey, you're listening to the
Weekend with Michael Brown, and I'm really glad that you are.
We're talking about Abrego Garcia and the deportation of these
illegal aliens and the absolute onslaught by Democrats to prevent
the removal of gang members from this country. You know,
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you know, let's just end the show right here. That's
all you need to know. That's all I need to
tell you. The Democrat Party, and I don't see anybody.
James Carvill stood up. I'll see if I can find
Carvel saying this. He drops too many F bombs. I
may not be able to play it. But Carvel was
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saying this past week that Abrego Garcia. He's the so
called Maryland father. You know, the father. You know, he's
a wonderful husband and a father. He's a member of
MS thirteen. He has a law, he has two lawful
deportation orders removal orders, and Carvil is saying, this is
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the hill we need to die on. This is the
hill that Democrats really need to stand up on, because
we're standing up for everything that is right. And I'm thinking,
wait a minute, you're standing up for a guy who
has come to this country illegally. I don't care whether
he's married or not married. I don't care whether he
has kids or not kids, doesn't have kids. He is
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a known member of MS thirteen. We've got different, not
just one law enforcement agency, but several law enforcement agencies
showing us and providing the evidence in their police reports
about his activities and his membership in MS thirteen. We
have the tattoos that show it, with the activities that
show and we have the removal orders in which the
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judges also confirmed that he was a member of MS
thirteen and ordered his removal from the country. Of course,
we didn't act on him, because this country doesn't act
on removing people until Trump two point zero and now
we're removing people, and the left is absolutely apoplectic about it.
From a pure political science point of view, From a
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pure politics point of view, I'm fascinated by that. I'm
fascinated by the fact that the Democrats have chosen to
side on those who are here illegally gang members, some
of who have committed horrendous crimes, and suddenly we want
to do everything we can to make sure that they
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get every conceivable opportunity to stay here. So that's what
they're talking about on MSNBC. So let's just pick up
where we left off, because she they say something here
that really shows you just how deranged they are are.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Really the canaries and the coal mine gasping for air,
I'm paraphrasing hair. But to me, that is why kilmar
Abrego Garcia's specific case, the case of the gentleman who's
a makeup artist out of California who was also listen
to that prison. That is why the more the seventy
of the folks who have been sent the men who
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have been sent there that don't have criminal records, that
is why this is so important.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Wait a minute, one, I want to know where she
got that figure. I've not seen that figure anywhere else.
And two, if you have come into the country illegally,
you have committed a civil that that's a civil penalty.
And if you have left and come back, that becomes
a criminal penalty. So you're here illegally. That's why under
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the the Immigration and Naturalization Act, the term is and
why I refuse to change the term to migrant, the
term under the law is illegal alien. You are an
alien in this country illegally. There's nothing other than the
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fact that it's unlawful. There's nothing pejoritai of about. It's
not like using the end word. It's not like calling
somebody a mother effort. You're an illegal alien. So why
are they so wrapped around the axle defending these.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
People, Because if they could do it to them, if
they could snatch students off the street without any pushback
or recourse, they will do it to any of us.
To be very clear, it's gonna be the people of
color and vulnerable communities that are next to them on.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
There you go, there you go. If they can do
it to them, they can do it to anybody. And
I guarantee you. She says that it'll be blacks and
people of you know, poor, low income communities. And the
response to that is.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
I think that's right, and that's certainly part of why
the African American community is so strongly behind the supporting
kill may.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
All right, show me those polls, show me that evidence.
You know, this morning, I tried to find some polling
or some data would support that. I couldn't find it.
If you've got to, feel free to text it to me.
I'll look at it.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Yeah, because, as you just said, if they're going to
whisk them away, what are they gonna do with us?
But the other point, too, though, is the constitutional aspect
of this. Because kill Mar's case has already gone up
to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Supreme Court sent an.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Order that basically say and facilitate his return. The Trump
administration is trying not to do that. They're dragging their
heels at every step of the way on that.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Let me explain what that means. So the Supreme Court
upheld and said, yes, in this particular case, you need
to you need to follow the district court's order and
you need to facilitate his return. You can't, you can't
force his return. The Supreme Court did not go that far.
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The Supreme Court did not say you must return him.
They simply said you must facilitate his return. Now, I
think the Supreme Court is wrong on that because all
they're saying is, hey, you need to let him cross
back over the border if somehow he can find a way.
Because he is a Ol Salvadoran citizen, he's subject to
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El Salvadoran law. We can't go snatch him out of
We're not communist China. We can't go disappear him. We
can't go to the president of El Salvador and say, hey,
we'd like to snatch this guy back. Did you turn
your head, turn your head, look down, look over there,
look see oh there's something over there. Quick snatrian, it's
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running getting back. Do you know what, say you do
you know what happened if mister Garcia came back across
the border again. Let's just say that he decides to uh,
the President of l Salvador says, oh, you know what,
I'm trying to mess with you. You're free to go
get out of here. And so he hits the trail,
He goes through the dairy and gap, he makes his
way across Mexico. He finally gets back to let's say
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war Ezra l pass whereas or T one. I don't
care one or the other. And he comes across the border,
he would be immediately detained and held in a detention
center and they would review his orders again and say, oh, yeah,
you have valid deportation orders, and they'd send him back.
This is the insanity that the Democrats are supporting right now,
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and I find it astonishing.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
And now we've got another track with Judge Bosburg where
he's talking about moving forward with criminal contempt to get.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Now that is that's correct as of when they played this,
but the court has rejected the criminal contempt and said no,
Hang on a minute, So what did the court say
this morning at one am? There is before the court
this I'm reading directly from the order itself. There is
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before the court an application on behalf of a putative class,
meaning a so called class of detainees. The class hasn't
been certified yet, so the court saying, well, there's this.
There's a supposed group of detainees out there that are
seeking an injunction against their removal under the Alien Enemies Act.
The matter is currently pending before the Fifth Circuit which
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is down in New Orleans, upon action by the Fifth Circuit,
meaning once the Fifth Circuit makes their decision. Now, what
all the Supreme Court did it or was just say
wait time out for everybody. Upon action by the Fifth Circuit,
the Supreme Court rights the Solicitor General, that's the person
who represents the government before the US Supreme Court. Upon
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action by the Circuit Court, the Solicitor General is invited
to file a response to the application before this court
as soon as possible. The government is directed not to
remove any member of the putative class of detainees from
the United States until further order of this Court. So
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they just froze everything in place. They didn't make a
ruling on the merits, they didn't make a ruling on
the contempt citation. They didn't do anything except everybody just stop.
Let the Fifth Circuit make their ruling. Once the Fifth
Circuit makes their ruling about these detainees, then we are
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inviting the Solicitor General on behalf of the government to
file an application with this court, the Supreme Court as
soon as possible, means you get it filed, we'll schedule it,
and we'll hear it. Now with respect to this particular order,
Justice Thomas and Justice Alito dissent from the Court's order. Now,
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the order says that there's a statement from Justice Alito
to follow. I've checked during the breaks, he has yet
to issue his statement. I can't wait to see what
Justice Alito says, because I think he's going to point
out the absurdity of what we have going on here,
the utter absurdity. The legal challenge on all of this
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hinges on the application of the Alien Enemies Act, and
the Supreme Court is previously as I've said earlier, Shannon
Breen pointed out, they've affirmed the use of the Act
while also trying to ensure that individuals targeted for deportation
are afforded the right to contest it where they are held. So,
while the dispute is pending before the US Court of
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Appeals for the Fifth Circuit, this latest decision tells the
Solicitor General to offer a formal response to the to
there to the detainee's injunction application as soon as the
Fifth Circuit decides. But there's something else going on too,
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the Democrats have just gone all in on these gang
members iildingal aliens, and it appears this is the hill
they want to die on, this is the battle they
want to have, and I I find it astonishing because
this is you know, one of the things that one
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of the phrases that Trump two point zero has put
into our vernacular is the idea of an issue being
a ninety ten issue or an eighty twenty issue or
a fifty to fifty issue. Meaning a ninety ten issue
is where ninety percent of the people that are legitimately
pulled about an issue are on one side and only
ten percent on another side. Well, this is a ninety
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ten issue. At worse, it's an eighty twenty issue, meaning
that eighty ninety percent of the American people are in
favor of these deportations. Now, I don't think that we
should always just do things because you know, something's a
ninety ten issue, but from a pure political point of view,
you want to be aware that, wait a minute, we're
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not only on the minority side of this issue, but
we're in this tiny, tiny sliver of a minority. Most
people object to what we're trying to do here, and
eighty to ninety percent of people approve of what Trump
two point oho is trying to do here. And then
you hear them talk about it, and you hear some
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of the most bizarre things. Jasmine Crockett has become kind
of like Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Kossick Cortez, this congresswoman
from Texas has become kind of an outspoken voice for
the Democrat Party.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Listen to this insanity, and you know Mariland.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
Senator van Holland just went to Al Salvador after meeting
with kilmar Abrego Garcia. He said he thinks that El
Salvador was feeling some pressure and that's why they let
him meet with him. But ultimately Naibu Khali saying he's
going to remain in the custody of Al Salvador. We
need to see more action though from people kind of
emulating what we saw from Senator Van Holland right.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
In other words, don't you do you think we need
to see more senators going, you know, to l Salvador,
more congressman, more governors. Whatever. What does she have to say?
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Yeah, no, absolutely So, first of all, kudo's the Senator
Van Holland. And honestly, that's what it looks like to
be an elected representative.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I'm sorry I find that funny. Yeah, my job is
to represent the criminal element in my in my district
or in my state now Maryland. With all due respect
to any listeners I have in Maryland, let's just put
it this way. You're not exactly on the top of
the heap when it comes to, you know, the economy
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or to you know, the whole racial issue. Baltimore is
not exactly, you know, one of the most wonderful places
in the country to go visit, crime ridden, crime infested.
The Key Bridge still hasn't been rebuilt. In fact, I
don't even think the Key Bridge, the bridge that was destroyed.
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I don't even think that the rest of us been
torn down yet. And MS thirteen uses Maryland as one
of its basis of operation, and you're running off to
El Salvador to talk to an MS thirteen gang member
as opposed to caring about the constituents that you have
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in Baltimore or glen Burnie or any other city in Maryland.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Seriously, he represents Maryland. This is someone who is a
Maryland resident, and he decided that he was going to
go down there and check on him. And honestly, I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
What about the Maryland residents that are subjected to these
gang members. What about the Maryland residents who are afraid
to go out of their homes at night because of
MS thirteen. What about the Maryland residents who are afraid
that they you know, they don't want to send their
kids to school because they're afraid that the kids are
going to get you know, hurt or something on the
way to school. Oh but you'll go all the way
to El Salvador. If you won't go to the neighbors
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next door, you'll go to El Salvador.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Oh know that I was convinced that he was alive.
I really don't, And so I was happy to see
that he was alive. Number one, But number two, if
Senator Van Holland can get down there, if the President
can get up here and get to the White House,
And I don't understand why we can't get abrego up
out of there. I mean, we know that they admitted
that they were wrong. Now they're trying to double back
(34:23):
and say, well, he's this terrible person and all this
kind of stuff. But here's the reality. As far as
I'm concerned, he's a lot less criminal than the person
that's sitting in the White House.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Because last there you go, there you got it. Yes,
a member of MS thirteen, someone who's spouse filed for
a protective order, someone who has had two orders of
removal is a lot less criminal than the person that's
sitting in the White House. You knew it was coming.
(34:54):
You knew that that this is all they've got. Trump
says the sky is blue and they're opposed to it.
Trump says the sun rises in the east and they're
opposed to it. Trump says, we all need oxygen and
air to breathe, and they're opposed to it.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
As time I checked, he doesn't have any criminal convictions.
I don't even think he has any outstanding cases versus
the guy that still had cases pending when he was
sworn in on January twentieth, and also has thirty four
fellay convictions. So listen, I don't want to hear anything
from the Republican Party about how they trying to keep
us safe when their fearless leader is actually the biggest
criminal thus far that we have seen, because I haven't
(35:32):
seen anybody with a rap sheet that looks like the presidents.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
And pretty soon we won't see anybody that has a
rap sheet like say, oh, Letitia James, the Attorney General
of New York, who has been referred to the Department
of Justice for prosecution for a mortgage fraud. I just
want to pull my hair out sometimes when I think
of the insanity going on in the world of American
(35:57):
politics today, simply because for well, I wouldn't say the
first time in my lifetime, because Ronald Reagan did what
he said he was going to do. Uh. For one
of the few times in my lifetime, we've elected a
president who campaigned on three or four specific things, and
he's acting on those three or four specific things, and
(36:19):
he's doing it in with record speed and with record determination.
And our response is, well, he's a criminal. Yeah, yeah,
nobody has a bigger rap sheet than the guy sitting
in the White House. Come on, you can do better
than that. So the weekend with Michael Brown, hang tight.
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The US Supreme Court early this morning issued an order
(00:45):
that temporarily stops the President from deporting anyone under the
Alien Enemies Act. They at least or now have blocked
the deportation of a group of Venezuelan migrants illegal aliens,
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whom the Trump administration was trying to remove under that
wartime act. The order came really early this morning after
lawyers for the aliens asked the justices to step in
on an emergency basis. To halt these deportations as reports
came that the that Immigrations and Customs Enforcement was beginning
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to load these detainees onto buses for deportation under the Act. Now,
it's worth noting I'll read you the order in just
a second, but it's worth noting that both Justice Thomas
and Justice Alito descended from the order. Lee Gerland, an
attorney with the ACLU, Look, I think I think everyone,
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whether you're in this country legal illegally, listen closely. If
you are subject to the territorial jurisdiction of this country,
meaning that you are in the within the boundaries of
the United States of America, you are entitled to Fourth
Amendment procedural and substantive due process before you have any
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of your rights taken away or before you are deported. However,
when you have already received a deportation order, that means
that an immigration judge or an administrative law judge has
reviewed your case. You've had the opportunity to present a defense.
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You've had the opportunity to cross examine witnesses if you
wanted to. You've had the opportunity to do whatever you're
entitled to do in an immigration court. And once that
order is entered, then boom, you have received your due
process rights and it's over. And I don't care whether
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that happened yesterday or it happened ten years ago. If
it happened ten years ago, as may or may not
be the case in uh, oh, what's the guy's name,
Garcia that's down in El Salvador right now, Even if
it occurred ten years ago, you got your due process.
(03:27):
You've just evaded. Oh. You probably didn't even really have
to evade being captured and deported because nobody was looking
for you, because no president until Trump came along. In
Trump two point zh had made a vow to you
know what, we're gonna get rid of these people. Particularly,
We're gonna start with the criminal, illegal aliens, and then
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we're gonna start moving down the tier, the hierarchy, and
we're just gonna start a mass deportation of people who
are in this country illegally. That's what we wanted, that's
what we voted for, and that's what he's doing. I
would argue that quite frankly, as much as I approve
of what he's doing, I don't think it's enough. I
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think we need to see more plane loads. I think
we need to see more people because I'm hearing stories,
and I'm reading stories, and I'm beginning to confirm stories
that some people are watching these deportations and they're beginning
to self deport Why I call that a win win.
Go back to this attorney for the ACLU. He's quoted
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today as saying, these men were in imminent danger of
spending their lives in a horrific form prison without ever
having had a chance to go to court. We are
relieved that the Supreme Court has not permitted the administration
to risk them away the way others were just last month. No,
let's wait a minute. Let's think about and remember today
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I would ask you to think about everything in the
context of of domestic terrorism, whether that when I say
domestic terrorism, I want to define it. I don't necessarily
mean terrorism perpetrated by American citizens or terrorism perpetrated by
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foreign nationals. I'm talking about terrorism that occurs on American soil.
So that's the definition we're going to use for the
purposes of this conversation. If you're a member of a gang,
I don't care whether it's Trendo Arragua, the Venezuelan gang,
or it's MS thirteen, the Al Salvadoran gang. I don't
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care which gang it is. If you're a member of
a criminal organization and you're not here in this country legally,
I believe the President has the right to determine that
you as a group are a foreign terrorist organization and
you are subject to deportation under the Alien Enemies Act,
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because let's think about what these organizations do. What these
organizations do is they kill innocent civilians, They destroy, extort,
rob everything that you can possibly imagine to businesses. They
make communities live in fear, literally live in fear. They
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came here illegally, they're a foreign terrorist organization as determined
rightfully so by the President of the United States, which
he has the right to do. Isn't it interesting that, oh,
we could determine, oh, I don't know, al Qaeda. Let's
just pick al Qaeda, the mother of all terrorist organizations,
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or maybe not anymore. I'm not sure the President has
the right to determine that that is a foreign terrorist organization.
And if you're found operating on American soil under the
Alien Enemies Act, you can be removed from this country.
And I don't think that This is one reason why
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we have GIPMO. We have GIPMO because when we capture
someone overseas, we don't want to bring them this to
this country because we don't want to affust Do you
really want clique shake Mohammad Ksm, the mastermind behind nine
to eleven. Do you really want him in a Manhattan
courtroom getting the opportunity to make his case to you know,
(07:27):
here's a lawyer who believes absolutely in a constitution, absolutely
believes in the rights to do process. But sometimes you
lose those rights. Sometimes you are not entitled to those rights.
And if you've been an enemy combatant or you're on
American soil and you are a part of a domestic
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terrorist organization, I don't think you have a right to
do process. But set that aside for a moment, because
many of these have already received their due process, because
they already have deportation orders against them. And you can't
get a deportation order unless a judge has adjudicated you
as being in this country unlawful and subject to removal.
(08:14):
Now Trump is using a no It is novel. I
grant you that a novel application of the Alien Enemies
Act of seventeen ninety eight to claim that these powerful gangs,
and they are powerful, are equivalent to foreign governments in wartime.
And I would argue that they are because they're operating
here under the auspices of Nicholas Maduro, and they were
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operating under the auspices of the previous president of El Salvador.
Although the current president of El Salvador said I'm going
to clean you up, I'm going to destroy you. They were,
in effect state actors, foreign state actors operating illegally on
American soil. I say, get their butts out of here.
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to make certain that we understand that there's a series
of cases that are all separate yet tied together in
one way, that are being heard by Judge Boseburg, who
is a federal trial judge in the DC Circuit. It's
being held and heard by a different panels of judges
(10:05):
on the DC Court of Appeals. And then there's the
US Supreme Court that's hearing some about some things about
all of these cases. And now today because of the
Court's ruling it coming out about one o'clock this morning,
there are now some cases being filed in Texas. The
ACLU must be on a money raising Benz right now,
(10:28):
trying to get all the money they can trying to
protect these illegal aliens. But I want to go back
to make certain that you understand that the Court has
said that the Alien Enemies Act can be used to
deport people as long as there is notice and due process.
I don't have a problem with that.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
They're not facilitating it, and they got to start answering
these questions. So there's also a word there may be
more imminent deportation, more suspected Venezuelan gang members under what's
called the Enemy Aliens Act.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
We've heard that. Remind us what that is again?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
And weren't those deportations on hold by a court?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, you're right, Bret. So remember those planeloads that went
out and that district Judge Boseburg said, wait a minute,
I said, you've got to turn them around. Why did
they everly, he's trying to still get answers on how
that happened. Well, tonight we are hearing, as Jackie did,
some reporting there that there is potentially another round of
deportation about to happen out of Texas.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
So now this is from yesterday Friday, and they're talking about, yes,
there are planeloads. I think there were a couple of
planes they were down in Texas that were going to
take off last night or sometime in the middle of
the night to go back to El Salvador. That's what
(11:44):
Shannon Breen here on Fox News is referring to.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Oh, the group of Venezuelan men there say they have
filed in a number of different courts, including that emergency
filing with the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court did say
five to four just days ago, you can use the
Alien Enemies Act two de poort people, but you have
to give them some effort at notice and do process. Tonight,
this group of men, their attorney's ACLU, are arguing they
(12:08):
don't have the notice, they don't have the time to
challenge what they call imminent deportations.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
And that's a factual question. It's it will be decided
in the legal context of what exactly kind of notice
and process are they entitled to. Let's go back to Garcia.
That's the main character in this entire fiasco going on
(12:34):
right now. This is the one where Senator Van Hollend
from Maryland has gone to El Salvador to sit down
with him because he believes that this illegal alien who
is a member of MS thirteen. And I would just
add as a footnote here, I've looked at the documents.
You can easily find all the documents online where law
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enforcement from different parts of the country have determined based
upon his gang affiliations, his tattoos, his activities, everything, that
he is a member of MS thirteen. And you can
actually read the orders that the judges have entered that
said you are now subject to removal. For this lawyer,
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that's all the due process he's entitled to, and he's
subject to removal, and he was removed. Now, whether or
not some of these current people being held now being
held back in Texas have received that similar kind of
due process, well, that's a factual matter to be determined
on an individual basis. I'm not going to argue one
(13:44):
way or the other, but I want you to think
about this. Joe Biden, the Biden administration, Alejandro Mayorcus, the
Secretary of Homeland Security under him, literally under under their
temporary protective status procedures, brought planeloads of illegal aliens from Venezuela, Haiti, Cuba,
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and I think there was in Nicaragua, brought planeloads of
them to this country. I think that was a violation
of the Immigration and Naturalization Act. I think that was
a crime to literally just fly to Venezuela, Nicaragua, wherever,
pick up planeloads of illegal aliens and bring them to
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this country. Let me take off my lawyer hat for
a moment. If if that is determined to be lawful,
which I don't think that it is. But if it were,
then why can't those very same people be reloaded on
planes and removed from the country. They were brought here
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illegally by this government, by the United States government. I
don't think the government has any standing, and I don't
mean standing in a legal sense. I don't think they
have any basis upon which to argue that. All. Well,
now you've got to give them all their Fourth Amendment rights.
Wait a minute, you the you know the Fourth Amendment
(15:21):
guarantees that the government will give you due process. Well,
you took away their entitlement to do process by you, yourself,
as the government bringing them here. So we're going to
pack you up and take you back. That may seem extreme,
but that's the point I'm at with these because we're
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now playing these legal games that are doing nothing but
delaying the removal of known gang members of two of
the worst gangs in the history of mankind. And that's
saying something when you think of some of the gangs
over the course of history of not sending them back.
And the Democrats, for whatever bizarre reason, are absolutely focused
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on this one guy Garcia, because for whatever reason, he's
just a Maryland Dad, how bad is it in terms
of the democrats?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Congressman, iving thank you for being here.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
There is.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
I've been talking about this all week. But Jane Nelson
of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, she pinned a op
ed in the Nation this week, and her op ed
talked about that we think the democracies are the way
they die is dramatically through these wars and blood is shed,
and it's cinematic in a sense, but really the realistic
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way in which democracies die is it is dismantled, brick
by brick, piece by piece. And she says that what
we are seeing now with the lawlessness from this administration.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Think about the ironic they are any of that here
is here's a host on MSNBC complaining about the so
called the putitive lawlessness of this administration when I just
described for you the lawlessness of the previous administration. Now
I'm not saying that one justifies the other, but don't
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you find it deliciously ironic that they're all of a
sudden they're very concerned about lawfulness when we have gang
members brought here by the previous administration and now all
we're trying to do is get them back the hell
out of the country. You'll hear what they have to
(17:37):
say because they take it to an absurd level. And
I'll tell you what the Supreme Court said at about
one o'clock this morning too. It's the Weekend with Michael Brown.
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Speaker 2 (18:01):
The former FEMA director of talk show host Michael Brown.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Brownie, no, Brownie.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
You're doing a heck of a job.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
The Weekend with Michael Brown. Hey, you're listening to the
Weekend with Michael Brown, and I'm really glad that you are.
We're talking about Abrego Garcia and the deportation of these
illegal aliens and the absolute onslaught by Democrats to prevent
the removal of gang members from this country. You know,
(18:31):
you know, let's just end the show right here. That's
all you need to know. That's all I need to
tell you. The Democrat Party, and I don't see anybody.
James Carvill stood up. I'll see if I can find
Carvel saying this. He drops too many F bombs. I
may not be able to play it. But Carvel was
(18:53):
saying this past week that Abrego Garcia. He's the so
called Maryland father. You know, the father. You know, he's
a wonderful husband and a father. He's a member of
MS thirteen. He has a law, he has two lawful
deportation orders removal orders, and Carvil is saying, this is
(19:19):
the hill we need to die on. This is the
hill that Democrats really need to stand up on, because
we're standing up for everything that is right. And I'm thinking,
wait a minute, you're standing up for a guy who
has come to this country illegally. I don't care whether
he's married or not married. I don't care whether he
has kids or not kids, doesn't have kids. He is
(19:40):
a known member of MS thirteen. We've got different, not
just one law enforcement agency, but several law enforcement agencies
showing us and providing the evidence in their police reports
about his activities and his membership in MS thirteen. We
have the tattoos that show it, with the activities that
show and we have the removal orders in which the
(20:05):
judges also confirmed that he was a member of MS
thirteen and ordered his removal from the country. Of course,
we didn't act on him, because this country doesn't act
on removing people until Trump two point zero and now
we're removing people, and the left is absolutely apoplectic about it.
From a pure political science point of view, From a
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pure politics point of view, I'm fascinated by that. I'm
fascinated by the fact that the Democrats have chosen to
side on those who are here illegally gang members, some
of who have committed horrendous crimes, and suddenly we want
to do everything we can to make sure that they
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get every conceivable opportunity to stay here. So that's what
they're talking about on MSNBC. So let's just pick up
where we left off, because she they say something here
that really shows you just how deranged they are are.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Really the canaries and the coal mine gasping for air,
I'm paraphrasing hair. But to me, that is why kilmar
Abrego Garcia's specific case, the case of the gentleman who's
a makeup artist out of California who was also listen
to that prison. That is why the more the seventy
of the folks who have been sent the men who
(21:31):
have been sent there that don't have criminal records, that
is why this is so important.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Wait a minute, one, I want to know where she
got that figure. I've not seen that figure anywhere else.
And two, if you have come into the country illegally,
you have committed a civil that that's a civil penalty.
And if you have left and come back, that becomes
a criminal penalty. So you're here illegally. That's why under
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the the Immigration and Naturalization Act, the term is and
why I refuse to change the term to migrant, the
term under the law is illegal alien. You are an
alien in this country illegally. There's nothing other than the
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fact that it's unlawful. There's nothing pejoritai of about. It's
not like using the end word. It's not like calling
somebody a mother effort. You're an illegal alien. So why
are they so wrapped around the axle defending these.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
People, Because if they could do it to them, if
they could snatch students off the street without any pushback
or recourse, they will do it to any of us.
To be very clear, it's gonna be the people of
color and vulnerable communities that are next to them on.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
There you go, there you go. If they can do
it to them, they can do it to anybody. And
I guarantee you. She says that it'll be blacks and
people of you know, poor, low income communities. And the
response to that is.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
I think that's right, and that's certainly part of why
the African American community is so strongly behind the supporting
kill may.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
All right, show me those polls, show me that evidence.
You know, this morning, I tried to find some polling
or some data would support that. I couldn't find it.
If you've got to, feel free to text it to me.
I'll look at it.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Yeah, because, as you just said, if they're going to
whisk them away, what are they gonna do with us?
But the other point, too, though, is the constitutional aspect
of this. Because kill Mar's case has already gone up
to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Supreme Court sent an.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Order that basically say and facilitate his return. The Trump
administration is trying not to do that. They're dragging their
heels at every step of the way on that.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Let me explain what that means. So the Supreme Court
upheld and said, yes, in this particular case, you need
to you need to follow the district court's order and
you need to facilitate his return. You can't, you can't
force his return. The Supreme Court did not go that far.
(24:18):
The Supreme Court did not say you must return him.
They simply said you must facilitate his return. Now, I
think the Supreme Court is wrong on that because all
they're saying is, hey, you need to let him cross
back over the border if somehow he can find a way.
Because he is a Ol Salvadoran citizen, he's subject to
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El Salvadoran law. We can't go snatch him out of
We're not communist China. We can't go disappear him. We
can't go to the president of El Salvador and say, hey,
we'd like to snatch this guy back. Did you turn
your head, turn your head, look down, look over there,
look see oh there's something over there. Quick snatrian, it's
(25:04):
running getting back. Do you know what, say you do
you know what happened if mister Garcia came back across
the border again. Let's just say that he decides to uh,
the President of l Salvador says, oh, you know what,
I'm trying to mess with you. You're free to go
get out of here. And so he hits the trail,
He goes through the dairy and gap, he makes his
way across Mexico. He finally gets back to let's say
(25:26):
war Ezra l pass whereas or T one. I don't
care one or the other. And he comes across the border,
he would be immediately detained and held in a detention
center and they would review his orders again and say, oh, yeah,
you have valid deportation orders, and they'd send him back.
This is the insanity that the Democrats are supporting right now,
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and I find it astonishing.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
And now we've got another track with Judge Bosburg where
he's talking about moving forward with criminal contempt to get.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Now that is that's correct as of when they played this,
but the court has rejected the criminal contempt and said no,
Hang on a minute, So what did the court say
this morning at one am? There is before the court
this I'm reading directly from the order itself. There is
(26:20):
before the court an application on behalf of a putative class,
meaning a so called class of detainees. The class hasn't
been certified yet, so the court saying, well, there's this.
There's a supposed group of detainees out there that are
seeking an injunction against their removal under the Alien Enemies Act.
The matter is currently pending before the Fifth Circuit which
(26:42):
is down in New Orleans, upon action by the Fifth Circuit,
meaning once the Fifth Circuit makes their decision. Now, what
all the Supreme Court did it or was just say
wait time out for everybody. Upon action by the Fifth Circuit,
the Supreme Court rights the Solicitor General, that's the person
who represents the government before the US Supreme Court. Upon
(27:07):
action by the Circuit Court, the Solicitor General is invited
to file a response to the application before this court
as soon as possible. The government is directed not to
remove any member of the putative class of detainees from
the United States until further order of this Court. So
(27:30):
they just froze everything in place. They didn't make a
ruling on the merits, they didn't make a ruling on
the contempt citation. They didn't do anything except everybody just stop.
Let the Fifth Circuit make their ruling. Once the Fifth
Circuit makes their ruling about these detainees, then we are
(27:51):
inviting the Solicitor General on behalf of the government to
file an application with this court, the Supreme Court as
soon as possible, means you get it filed, we'll schedule it,
and we'll hear it. Now with respect to this particular order,
Justice Thomas and Justice Alito dissent from the Court's order. Now,
(28:14):
the order says that there's a statement from Justice Alito
to follow. I've checked during the breaks, he has yet
to issue his statement. I can't wait to see what
Justice Alito says, because I think he's going to point
out the absurdity of what we have going on here,
the utter absurdity. The legal challenge on all of this
(28:40):
hinges on the application of the Alien Enemies Act, and
the Supreme Court is previously as I've said earlier, Shannon
Breen pointed out, they've affirmed the use of the Act
while also trying to ensure that individuals targeted for deportation
are afforded the right to contest it where they are held. So,
while the dispute is pending before the US Court of
(29:02):
Appeals for the Fifth Circuit, this latest decision tells the
Solicitor General to offer a formal response to the to
there to the detainee's injunction application as soon as the
Fifth Circuit decides. But there's something else going on too,
(29:23):
and that's next. This is the weekend with Michael Brown
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have you with me. I appreciate you tuning in. So
(29:46):
the Democrats have just gone all in on these gang
members iildingal aliens, and it appears this is the hill
they want to die on, this is the battle they
want to have, and I I find it astonishing because
this is you know, one of the things that one
(30:06):
of the phrases that Trump two point zero has put
into our vernacular is the idea of an issue being
a ninety ten issue or an eighty twenty issue or
a fifty to fifty issue. Meaning a ninety ten issue
is where ninety percent of the people that are legitimately
pulled about an issue are on one side and only
ten percent on another side. Well, this is a ninety
(30:31):
ten issue. At worse, it's an eighty twenty issue, meaning
that eighty ninety percent of the American people are in
favor of these deportations. Now, I don't think that we
should always just do things because you know, something's a
ninety ten issue, but from a pure political point of view,
you want to be aware that, wait a minute, we're
(30:52):
not only on the minority side of this issue, but
we're in this tiny, tiny sliver of a minority. Most
people object to what we're trying to do here, and
eighty to ninety percent of people approve of what Trump
two point oho is trying to do here. And then
you hear them talk about it, and you hear some
(31:15):
of the most bizarre things. Jasmine Crockett has become kind
of like Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Kossick Cortez, this congresswoman
from Texas has become kind of an outspoken voice for
the Democrat Party.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Listen to this insanity, and you know Mariland.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
Senator van Holland just went to Al Salvador after meeting
with kilmar Abrego Garcia. He said he thinks that El
Salvador was feeling some pressure and that's why they let
him meet with him. But ultimately Naibu Khali saying he's
going to remain in the custody of Al Salvador. We
need to see more action though from people kind of
emulating what we saw from Senator Van Holland right.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
In other words, don't you do you think we need
to see more senators going, you know, to l Salvador,
more congressman, more governors. Whatever. What does she have to say?
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Yeah, no, absolutely So, first of all, kudo's the Senator
Van Holland. And honestly, that's what it looks like to
be an elected representative.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I'm sorry I find that funny. Yeah, my job is
to represent the criminal element in my in my district
or in my state now Maryland. With all due respect
to any listeners I have in Maryland, let's just put
it this way. You're not exactly on the top of
the heap when it comes to, you know, the economy
(32:40):
or to you know, the whole racial issue. Baltimore is
not exactly, you know, one of the most wonderful places
in the country to go visit, crime ridden, crime infested.
The Key Bridge still hasn't been rebuilt. In fact, I
don't even think the Key Bridge, the bridge that was destroyed.
(33:01):
I don't even think that the rest of us been
torn down yet. And MS thirteen uses Maryland as one
of its basis of operation, and you're running off to
El Salvador to talk to an MS thirteen gang member
as opposed to caring about the constituents that you have
(33:22):
in Baltimore or glen Burnie or any other city in Maryland.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Seriously, he represents Maryland. This is someone who is a
Maryland resident, and he decided that he was going to
go down there and check on him. And honestly, I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
What about the Maryland residents that are subjected to these
gang members. What about the Maryland residents who are afraid
to go out of their homes at night because of
MS thirteen. What about the Maryland residents who are afraid
that they you know, they don't want to send their
kids to school because they're afraid that the kids are
going to get you know, hurt or something on the
way to school. Oh but you'll go all the way
to El Salvador. If you won't go to the neighbors
(34:01):
next door, you'll go to El Salvador.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Oh know that I was convinced that he was alive.
I really don't, And so I was happy to see
that he was alive. Number one, But number two, if
Senator Van Holland can get down there, if the President
can get up here and get to the White House,
And I don't understand why we can't get abrego up
out of there. I mean, we know that they admitted
that they were wrong. Now they're trying to double back
(34:23):
and say, well, he's this terrible person and all this
kind of stuff. But here's the reality. As far as
I'm concerned, he's a lot less criminal than the person
that's sitting in the White House.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Because last there you go, there you got it. Yes,
a member of MS thirteen, someone who's spouse filed for
a protective order, someone who has had two orders of
removal is a lot less criminal than the person that's
sitting in the White House. You knew it was coming.
(34:54):
You knew that that this is all they've got. Trump
says the sky is blue and they're opposed to it.
Trump says the sun rises in the east and they're
opposed to it. Trump says, we all need oxygen and
air to breathe, and they're opposed to it.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
As time I checked, he doesn't have any criminal convictions.
I don't even think he has any outstanding cases versus
the guy that still had cases pending when he was
sworn in on January twentieth, and also has thirty four
fellay convictions. So listen, I don't want to hear anything
from the Republican Party about how they trying to keep
us safe when their fearless leader is actually the biggest
criminal thus far that we have seen, because I haven't
(35:32):
seen anybody with a rap sheet that looks like the presidents.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
And pretty soon we won't see anybody that has a
rap sheet like say, oh, Letitia James, the Attorney General
of New York, who has been referred to the Department
of Justice for prosecution for a mortgage fraud. I just
want to pull my hair out sometimes when I think
of the insanity going on in the world of American
(35:57):
politics today, simply because for well, I wouldn't say the
first time in my lifetime, because Ronald Reagan did what
he said he was going to do. Uh. For one
of the few times in my lifetime, we've elected a
president who campaigned on three or four specific things, and
he's acting on those three or four specific things, and
(36:19):
he's doing it in with record speed and with record determination.
And our response is, well, he's a criminal. Yeah, yeah,
nobody has a bigger rap sheet than the guy sitting
in the White House. Come on, you can do better
than that. So the weekend with Michael Brown, hang tight.
(36:39):
I'll be right back.
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