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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Because you're waking up with in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hun.
Speaker 3 (00:03):
All right, we're back in TIFFs community Corner where I
introduce you to new people, new places, new things, maybe
new neighborhoods in Cincinnati and beyond. And today I'm talking
to Kathy Heller of a book that I have been
so deeply connected to over the last couple of months
in the new year here and it's called Abundant ever After. Now,
Kathy Heller is an author but also a podcaster of
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Abundant ever After.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Hi, thanks for joining my show.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Hi, I like you so much. We're talking before we
hit record and all like that. Let's just talk and
be friends.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Let's do that.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
So I'm going to kind of approach this situation rather
than an interview between two professionals, as an interview between
two friends.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
And someone is just super curious.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
So the baseline of this book, from what I've read,
is you have access to the life that you want
if you're willing to open up your energy channels and
receive abundance. And it really is is around you at
all times, but it starts from within. Am I correct
in saying that you were correct?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
If I think you could teach this I think you
could go on the tour with this book and make
it your content.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I would love to, honestly, so talk to me a
little bit about for someone that has no idea what
that quote it feeling is that I've manifested this feeling,
that feeling that feels so far away for some people
and so close for others. Right, I can just imagine
some of my friends kind of looking in on this
snow globe of something they think.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Exists that they don't have access to. Talk about that
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Well, first of all, what you just said is accurate,
and it's I love you. I love your second question
as well, because the first thing that you said was
is it correct that we can have access to everything
that we want?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
And I said yes? And then you said, and what
is that feeling? And the reason why I love the
two questions together is because the thing that you want
access to when you say we can have everything we want?
What people think? And I'm going to get to all
of this. Don't worry, guys, I'll unpack it is. Oh,
she just meant I could have the dream home, I
could have ten million dollars, I could have the best relationship,
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all of that stuff yes, that's correct. But what you
really want is the second thing you asked, which is
you want to feel in her peace. You want to
feel connected to a mystical experience every day. You want
to feel like your life is in flow. You want
to feel synchronicity. Think about if ever you've ever been
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in love, right, it didn't matter if you were sixteen
and had no money in high school, or whether you
were thirty and you just moved to a new city.
Everything in the world was magic because you had just
fallen in love. Right. That feeling of what's going on
inside of you, right, is really what you want. And
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then it turns out, and we're going to go into
all the details. When you feel that way, number one,
you just got everything you wanted, which is your own
inner being feeling lit up, connected, having equanimity, feeling authentic, feeling,
the feeling of just being at peace with yourself. So
that is what you want. But when you feel that way,
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that is what we would call a state of wholeness,
You then create the most amazing experiences in your life.
Because it is an energetic world. Atoms are energy and
everything that we communicate with we might think it's what
we said, We might think it's what we wore, we
might think it's where we went to college, but what
actually did the impressing with whoever we were with was
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our energy. So when we come from an energy of wholeness,
our whole life turns into the most incredible world because
our inner worlds will always be reflected in our outer experience.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
And for that snow globe effect of this is friends
looking at the on the outside looking in because I'm
experiencing what you just talked about. I am experiencing in
my life right now, so I can attest to what
Kathy is saying.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Is that it's very very true.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
But for maybe a skeptic or someone that thinks that
that's far away, what would you tell them.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Well, there's a lot that we want to unpack about it,
but typically it's because we look at what's happening around
us and we don't actually see right. We know that
we all have what's called the reticular activating system, which
is like a really you know, a cumbersome thing to say,
But the truth of the matter is, and you know
this one, you've heard this, But if I told you
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to look around the room and find anything that's orange,
you would. In fact, you would see things that were yellow,
and you would come back and say, well, you wanted
evidence of things that are orange, so you made them
orange too. And then I would say, okay, now look again,
and is there anything pink in the room. You wouldn't
remember because you were just folks on the orange stuff.
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So we have inside of our mind a way that
we prioritize what we're finding based on what we believe.
So two people can sit on the same bench in
the same moment in history and they see two different
worlds based upon what they believe. They're only going to
see what they're available to see. So in every moment,
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all possibilities exist. Right in every moment, we live in
an infinite field of possibility. The universe is so unbelievably magical. Right,
I look outside my window, I'm looking at nature. There's
nothing rushing, there's nothing worried, And somehow all of this foliage,
all these trees, all these plants are all diverse, they're
all interesting, and they all get what they need and
they do the most amazing dance together. Right, because the
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universe is set up to do that. Most people are
looking through the tiniest, most limited perception, right, because they're
in literally your body. And we can talk about this too,
but like there needs to be a little bit of
bio hacking here as well, because when you haven't slept,
you're filled with cortisol, you are malnourished, literally your body is,
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and your body believes it's in danger actually yep, so
your mind goes into fight or flight, right, So then
you could be like, these meditation apps aren't working for me.
It's like, well, because your body is actually seeping and poison.
You haven't slept, you haven't drank water, you haven't gone outside,
you haven't worked your body out, you haven't moved, you
haven't eaten anything but sugar and processed food. So there's
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also that. But even if you took that away, then
you would say, okay, how do I start to feel different? Well, equanimity,
as we know from the mindfulness world, is always one
breath away, but it's changing your perspective. Instead of looking
through the eyes of your amigdala, which is the back
of your mind, which is always in fight or flight,
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you look through the eye of your heart. Right, you
start moving from the back of your mind into seeing
the world, not through your mind, but through your being,
and when you do that, you realize your heart is
always a piece, your heart always is full, your mind
is always in lack. And what's interesting is when we
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started doing the research and we see people who are
in flow state. Michelangelo is in flow state, Michael Jordan
on the court is in flow state. Tom Petty playing
you know the guitar is in flow state. We now
understand that those people are not actually operating the left
part of the brain, which is all in analyzing mode
and overthinking mode. That's where all the court is all
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is right. That's where we generate lots of worry when
people are creating. You really can't both be creative and
be complaining at the same time and worried because creativity
is an act of play and surrender. And the true
people who are creating, even if you're saying I'm going
on a date instead of trying to control my spouse
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or my boyfriend, I'm going to let the day be
whatever it is, you'll have a better day because you're
not trying to control it. Right, You're in more creative mode,
like whatever's here, I'm going to find the joy in it.
You're gonna have a better time. So what I'm saying
is most of the time, we wake up in the
morning and our mind plays the same ten thousand thoughts
it played yesterday. So we're in groundhog Day and we
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think what we thought yesterday, because the mind has a
program that it's been running since we're like eight years old,
and it's very human gloom. It's fake news. And then
every thought secretes a chemical. So some thoughts make you
have serotonin, which makes you feel peaceful, Some thoughts literally
make you feel dopamine, which makes you feel excited, and
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some thoughts give you cortisol, which is stress. Well, ninety
percent of the thoughts that human beings think feed cortisol.
Drip a pharmaceutical of cortisol from your thought into your cells,
which makes you feel stuck. Then there are sometimes where
you're listening to music, all of a sudden you start
to feel like things are a little bit better, things
are possible, or you're with someone has really good energy.
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Next week you're like, I could do anything because you've
moved out of a little bit of that cortisol. You're
moving into a little bit more of flow. And when
you're in flow, your whole life starts to feel better.
So what I'm saying is, when we wake up in
the morning, the same way that I selected what I
want to what did I want to wear today, I
want people to select what do you want to think today?
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What do you want to feel today? When we realize
that most of the time we have a waffle iron,
so to speak, sitting on our desk, and it's not
plugged in. We're not using it for what it's meant for.
It's unplugged. Our very being most of the time is unplugged,
pugged into stress. We're plugged into the past. So instead
of being wired into the feeling of the wholeness, the
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feeling of love, vitality, surrender, creativity, we are not plugged
into our truth. We're plugged into the mind. It basically
unplugs us, and then we don't get much out of ourselves.
We don't get much out of the day.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
So you talked a lot about that, how it kind
of all comes together, and the way in which the
brain is operating and how you operate in it. Let's
kind of strip it down a little bit, and we
talked about the why and a little bit in that too.
But if I am starting from ground zero at the
very beginning, and you'll learn a lot about this through
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abundant Ever after the book, there's definitely steps on how
to achieve that. Where's the one place outside of biohacking
that someone could start this process of changing the way
that they think.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
First of all, knowledge is really powerful, right, Like the
whole thing we learn in mindfulness is that just being
aware actually changes your life. Right Like, if you know
that you have a cat, and you walk into your
house and there's no lights on, but you know where
the cat's water dishes, just by knowing it, just being
aware of it, you won't step into it. But if
your friend walks in right behind you and is not
aware of it, she'll probably stub her toe on the
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couch or the awareness. So what I want to share
with you I shared in the book is that I
was growing up, I didn't have any of this insight
at all. I grew up in a place where my
parents were miserable. They eventually got divorced. My mom suffered
from depression. She tried to commit suicide twice. And that
really set me up to ask really big questions because
things were really really dark, And after college, I took
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a little curious three week trip to Jerusalem, and I
stayed there for three years, and I learned Judaism and
Jewish mysticism and kabbola, and it changed my life. And
I sat there for three years and I learned with
this incredible rabbi and his wife and has lived with
his seven children. And then I moved to Los Angeles
and I studied at the Mindfulness Center at UCLA for
three years, and so I was able to couple like
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the science of what's happening inside of us, the science
of well being with spirituality, which really set me up.
So I just want to share one thing, which I
think is the first place to start, which is that
Einstein said that we don't see the world as it
is because the world is not three dimensional. It's not
three D, it's ten D. So this is what has
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to be the first thing, is that we see things
as separate. I see you as separate for me, right,
But really, if an atom is ninety nine percent energy
and one percent particle, and everything is made of atoms,
it means that we're swimming in a world that you
don't see with your naked eye, but it's all energetic.
So your energy does the heavy lifting, right. Oprah had
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a sign in her office the whole time she had
her show that said, be responsible for the energy you
bring into space, because what you offer another person is
your energy. When you're loving and connected and you're in
beginner's mind, you're not trying to be impressive. You're just present.
People love being around you, and you are the most creative,
tapped in person that you could be. Because we're all
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in a pool of energy. It's like you're a wave
in an ocean and I'm a wave in the same ocean.
So how could we be disconnected? Every wave isted? Now,
what Rabbi Aaron, who I talk about in the book,
shared with me that I think everybody loves when they
read the book. It's his metaphor, is that the word
kabala means to receive. So what does it mean. Well,
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I just set you up to know that the world
is made of energy. And he says, a radio is
another word for radio, is a receiver. Right when you
turn on a radio. If you put a radio right
here in this room, all of a sudden, you and
I would hear music. But what's even more cool is
if we change the tuning we could hear a multitude.
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I mean, you work for a radio station, we could
hear all different kinds of songs based on what radio state.
I remember growing up in South Florida. It was like
one oh two point seven was very different than one
oh three point five, and ninety seven point one was
completely different than ninety seven point nine. And that's not
even a whole point away ninety seven point three and
it's still ninety seven, but it's like totally different once
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leady on one's the Beastie Boys, right. What's interesting about
that is that what Rabbayrin said to me is before
you turn on the radio, where is the music? And
the answer is that it's hidden in plain sight. It's
in the room, but I'm not receiving it because I'm
not tuned to that frequency. Correct. I mean that sounds
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like woo, but it's very literal. I don't have the
capacity to tune into that frequency. But what's also interesting
is he said, what's deciding what broadcasts we're listening to?
Is the music deciding it? Or is the radio tuner
depending on where the radio is tune, is that decided
what music gets played? And so when we are tuned
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energetically to fear and shame and lack. We walk through
the world and we're just tuning to it. We feel
that in every we're like that person didn't like me,
or the world is such a negative place, like we literally,
or it's just constant right, and people receive us as
being in this place where we feel very broken, right.
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But when we're tuned to a place of being connected
to all that is right, really feeling the sense of
oneness and abundance and equanimity and peace and feeling satisfied
and looking at the fourteen shades of green outside your
window every day, then when you walk through the world,
you go, my god, the world is such a magical
place and all I see is the beauty in everything,
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and oh my god, people are so nice. Because you
are tuned to that, you will receive that back. If
you go into a guitar shop and you buy a guitar,
and you take a guitar off the wall and you
play the G string on your guitar, every guitar in
the shop will vibrate, but only the G string, because
it's literally a law of science called the law of residence.
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So what music you send out is the music that played.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
And a piece of getting to that place is about
reframing your thoughts. Now you've heard this before, You've read
it on a postcard somewhere, You've seen the words reframe
your thoughts, right, But it's.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Not just about what you tell yourself.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Something I also picked up from the book is it
is the feeling that you want to feel. You have
to practice that feeling because of that court is all
drip of negativity in your brain. Your programmed to feel
the negative things a lot easier. But if you can
sit and I've been practicing this myself when I read
it every morning before work, is what do I want
to feel like today? It is a challenge for me
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to conjure that up, but it does get easier over time.
And it's not just what do I want to tell myself,
it's also the feelings that I want to have today.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
You have to practice what that feels like. That was interesting.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Well, what's interesting about that is it is such a
practice because the way that we're raised is we all
feel like we need to be more in order to
be worthy. Seriously, so most of the day we look
at other people on Instagram or we think about who
our parents want us to be and essentially all day
long we feel lack like if I could have bigger
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piles of things, if I could achieve more, I'd finally
feel like I was enough. What Rabbi Aaron said to
me is we are all someone because we're some of
the one, like if God was the sound all the
array of that light. And what I mean is when
you get beyond that part of your brain that thinks
it's not enough, because you realize, Like my grandmother didn't
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go to school past the fifth grade. She was the
most compassionate person. She used to go to the grocery
store with me and ask the clerk, did you have
a hug today? Did anyone hug you? She would take
in stray dogs. She made such an impression on people,
not because of where she went to school or what
her bank account was, but her loving kindness. Right when
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you think about the blue zones, these people who we've
now found live into their hundreds, there's these places they
call blue zones where people live till one hundred and thirteen,
and we want to analyze them. And Dan Utner has
a show on Netflix called I Think one hundred Years,
and it's all about these people, they're not trying to
be something. They weren't raised in a culture that's saying
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how much money did you make today? How many achievements
did you post today on Instagram. They're just being They're gardening,
take long walks. It turns out we're meant to live
that way, and that's why they lived till one hundred
and thirteen with no cancer, with no issues. Why. Because
cortisol creates inflammation. We are all stipping on cortisol like
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a popsicle all day. Because cortisol is the part of
you that says I'm not enough and unless I achieve
more or consume more, I won't be enough. So of
course you have to practice that because you're in a
constant deluge of being told that. But those of us
who started practicing meditation or have a spiritual practice, we've
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let go of that. We're not trying to be somebody
because you're not a body. You're someone. You're some of
the one. You're you're a spark of the divine. What
are you trying to be? Be? You the most loving,
The most impressive person in the room is the most loving.
So what I'm saying is the more you set down.
It's like when I was in high school, I was
never going to be part of the popular crowd. Right
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I did theater. I was on my own track. So
a lot of kids were trying to fit in with
those kids. I didn't want to win the race that
they were trying to run. Right. It's like when you
step back and say, I'm just gonna have a slow morning,
I'm gonna enjoy my day. I'm gonna be here right
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now and actually not measure myself constantly like a human doing,
but a human being. What I'm saying is what's really fascinating.
And I've interviewed a thousand people on my podcast, Deepak Chopera,
Mary Williams and Tony Robbins, Matthew McConaughey, all these people
the name of the game. The funny thing is is
that we're all trying to chase success, but what we
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really want is not success. What we want is significance.
We want to feel significant. And what's interesting is when
we become significant. Every day we realize that we are significant,
Like we can when my gardener comes, my kids and
I have a race, who's going to get them a
cold drink the fastest and you realize you could be
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significant wherever you go. You could change somebody's day. You
could change your own life every single day just by
tuning the channel to peace. Right. What I'm saying is
the people who've chosen significance over success will become as
successful as they ever want to be because success usually
chases significance. And so what I'm saying is, it's like
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having your ladder on the wrong wall all the day
and climbing that and going it's leading me nowhere. What
I'm saying is, when you wake up, take your ladder
off that wall, say that's what everyone else is running toward.
It's not working right. Most of those people eat poorly.
They're exhausted, they're depleted. They're like, look, mom and I enough.
Now look what I've acquired. I've a range rover. Look.
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It's like you could be in the most beautiful hotel
in the world with a silk bathrobe on, but if
you just had a fight with your spouse, you don't
care that you're in this beautiful place. You want your
inner world to feel amazing. And what I am saying
is like I started a in my closet eight years ago.
It has fifty million downloads. I came to Los Angeles
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with no money, not knowing anybody, just being so in
love with life, so curious, so awake, and synchronicity finds
you because when you just feel good, you're already arrived.
It's that's what you want. In fact, if I say
to someone what are you looking for and they say, well,
my dream is you know this much money or this job,
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I go, well, the only reason you want that is
because of how you think it's going to make you feel.
So why would you wait for something to happen when
you could feel that way now? Like if I said
to you, let's practice feeling gratitude, let's think of the
things that we're grateful for, we would feel it. If
I said, let's think of what it feels like to
just surrender the outcome right now and just be in
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the feeling of flow and equanimity and serenity, we could
feel that good right now, And it's amazing when you
let go of needing things to happen. Yeah, it's like
a girl. I'll just I'll give you a last example.
It's like I have a friend who's been single forever,
but she talks about how the thing she wants in
her life is a man. Constantly, she wants it. She's
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so down about it. She wants to be loved and chosen. Now,
the more you want that and you go on a date,
how good is that date going to go? But if
you are someone like Zoe de Chanelle plays in every
character she plays, and you go on a date and
you just RCVP to your own party, you're having your
own good time. The guy's going to be into you
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when you want it so bad because you feel deep
down you're not enough until you have it, or life
sucks until you have whatever it is fill in the blank.
You'll just keep pushing it further away. But the more
you're in wholeness, the more you're in love with your life.
You're a blessing to everyone around you. And the funny
thing is that's when these little creative nudges come in,
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call this person move here, and that's when your life
starts to move into synchronicity totally and you start to
just feel like the best version of yourself.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
I loved the last piece a lot. I want to
ask I'm going to say something. I'm gonna ask a question.
It feels like you don't wake up to this style
of living until you've had some sort of major, traumatic,
chaotic life quake.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Right if you don't, Oh, i've.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Never heard that life quake? Yeahs really cool.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
When your life quake happens, that's when everything is stripped
from you, whatever, whatever your life quake is, whether it's
family related, job related, personal related, relationship related. When you
go through your life quake and you're just standing there
and the ground you once knew is very, very unstable,
it's almost when your senses become very keen and aware
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to changing your life around you. I feel like that
happened to me, and it probably awakened these feelings that
I already know from this book. It kind of woke
that up and I was able to lean in even harder. One,
do you agree simply? And then two, if you are
just living in your regular state with no life quake,
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do you really believe you can go to that abundance,
that mindset of abundance and energy and really have a
better understanding of that without trauma happening? Because I almost
don't know if I can see that happening.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yes, I think, first of all, I understand why you
ask that, because I think it's very much the case
for a lot of people. When those I love your
word life quakes happen, it pushes them, it propels them
into shaking them loose of the software program their brain
was running and rewiring that software to see the world differently.
And also one hundred percent I think that we can
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change the way that we see the world, that feel
and experience the world without trauma. It's kind of like,
you know when you go to the airport and you're
on those people movers. You know that sometimes in the
airport they have those things that it's like not an escalator,
but it moves you across the floor, and then you
get off of it and your body still moving for
a second and you're like, whoa, that's a weird feeling. Yeah,
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when you first downshift right out of this program, that's like,
do more, create more, be moore, look at Instagram again,
Get the dopamine again, keep comparing yourself, your body. Let
right now, just so we all understand, cortisol, which is stress,
is more addictive. Listen to this than nicotine. So we
are all addicted to feeling like garbage literally, and you know,
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when you're trying to get off sugar. We've all tried it,
and you're like, no, big deal, got this, and by
day two you're like, I want sugar. I'm craving it.
I need cabbage patch, tower patch, kiins whatever. It is
right when you start to get off the cortisol and
you start to say I'm going to read a daily
affirmation or I'm gonna write in my journal, or I'm
gonna take a walk, or take my shoes off and
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put my feet in the ground and slow down. At first,
your body's gonna say, no, way, give me back the stress,
because whatever you're doing is registering as this doesn't feel safe.
This is unusual, right. It's kind of like if you've
been in a bad relationship and you start dating someone
really nice and you go, Dick, I'm not really used
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to this. Why is he so nice? It's kind of gross.
I kind of used to a little bit of the stress,
a little bit of the dodginess, right, and you have
to repair and tell yourself, no, this this is called safe.
This is called love. This is called intimacy. It's new,
it's uncomfortable, but this is what it feels like when
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somebody is kind and this is your It's kind of
like you go to the chiropractor and they adjust you
and they show you yourself in the mirror when you're
standing straight and you feel in your head like you're
all awkward, but you actually realize you've been walking out
of alignment and now they've straightened your hips and it
doesn't feel a mind. That's why I started with the
people move our analogy. When you first start to slow
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the heck down and enjoy the little things in life
and put your hand on your belly and take deep breaths.
At first, you're gonna be like, what is this. It's
so weird. But I'm telling you because you are meant
to do it. I'm telling you because at the core
of who we are, there is a lot of well
being and there is a capacity for wholeness. You'll start
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to feel Wait a minute, whoever that girl was that
I was pretending to be, who woke up every day
and was exhausted by the end of every day and
was always trying to be somebody, I have a lot
of compassion for her, but I don't need to be
her anymore. I love that cat, and so what I'm
saying is, no, you don't need a life quake. But
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what I am going to tell you because you had
some insight here, it's uncomfortable the change. It's kind of like,
I'll just give one example. Another example. People will plan
for eight months to go on a vacation. They can't wait.
They take the time off work, they plan everywhere they're
going to go. They're gonna go to this little town
in the south of France, and they get there and
they can't relax, and it takes like three days to
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get on the vacation. You're on right, So you get
there and you're like, I'm picking a fight with my husband.
I'm uncomfortable. It's like, yeah, because this is new and
there's no distraction, and now your mind is used to
constantly only being fed stress, and now you gave it peace,
and it actually wants to sabotage the peace because it
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doesn't know what to do with it. Right, But eventually
you change how you adjust. It's like adjusting to a
dark room. Your eyes eventually adjust and you don't need
a life quake. You just need to sit through the
getting off the sugar and give yourself the time. It's
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like going on a silent retreat, which hell, the couple days.
I've done a silent retreat every year for the last
five years. The first few days, I'm always like, why
did I decide to do this? And it's because at
the end of a week, I remember who I am
at the end of a week, and I remember what
the world is, and the world is magnificent. And you
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don't need to do a silent retreat. I'm just saying
when you just have the awareness of what I just said,
and you just know that it is always within reach,
within you. How about taking two minutes a day, That's
what I'm saying. How about two minutes a day where
we practice we just start practicing wholeness.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Okay, well, so well before you say that, then let's
give a one sentence. If someone's like, yes, I'm soaking
up everything you're saying, where do I begin? Just one
simple sentence on where they start.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
So you close your eyes and you just, first of all,
notice how do you feel? Check in and then I
want you to just like you select your clothes. We
talked about that earlier. I want you to choose the
radio station. Now I want you to choose how do
you want to feel? And for ninety seconds, I want
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you to feel what would love feel like today? What
would it feel like that everything is in divine order
and I don't need to hold every for everyone. Ooh,
what would ease feel like in my body? And you
hold that for ninety seconds and when you're done with
those ninety seconds, you will have a different day. You
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will have a totally different day.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Kathy Heller Abundant ever After.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
I'm telling you I've read this book almost cover to cover.
I highly recommend picking it up as just a way
to start off your morning or whenever you have a
few minutes to catch some pages. She also has a
podcast titled the Same Thing if You Abundant ever After,
if you are a more of a listener person than
a reading person. But thank you so much for stopping
by Tip in the morning, Kathy here in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Thank you so much. Tiff. You have such a good
you have good energy and such a sweet personality and
I enjoyed being with you. Thank you,
Because you're waking up with in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hun.
Speaker 3 (00:03):
All right, we're back in TIFFs community Corner where I
introduce you to new people, new places, new things, maybe
new neighborhoods in Cincinnati and beyond. And today I'm talking
to Kathy Heller of a book that I have been
so deeply connected to over the last couple of months
in the new year here and it's called Abundant ever After. Now,
Kathy Heller is an author but also a podcaster of
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Abundant ever After.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Hi, thanks for joining my show.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Hi, I like you so much. We're talking before we
hit record and all like that. Let's just talk and
be friends.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Let's do that.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
So I'm going to kind of approach this situation rather
than an interview between two professionals, as an interview between
two friends.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
And someone is just super curious.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
So the baseline of this book, from what I've read,
is you have access to the life that you want
if you're willing to open up your energy channels and
receive abundance. And it really is is around you at
all times, but it starts from within. Am I correct
in saying that you were correct?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
If I think you could teach this I think you
could go on the tour with this book and make
it your content.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I would love to, honestly, so talk to me a
little bit about for someone that has no idea what
that quote it feeling is that I've manifested this feeling,
that feeling that feels so far away for some people
and so close for others. Right, I can just imagine
some of my friends kind of looking in on this
snow globe of something they think.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Exists that they don't have access to. Talk about that
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Well, first of all, what you just said is accurate,
and it's I love you. I love your second question
as well, because the first thing that you said was
is it correct that we can have access to everything
that we want?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
And I said yes? And then you said, and what
is that feeling? And the reason why I love the
two questions together is because the thing that you want
access to when you say we can have everything we want?
What people think? And I'm going to get to all
of this. Don't worry, guys, I'll unpack it is. Oh,
she just meant I could have the dream home, I
could have ten million dollars, I could have the best relationship,
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all of that stuff yes, that's correct. But what you
really want is the second thing you asked, which is
you want to feel in her peace. You want to
feel connected to a mystical experience every day. You want
to feel like your life is in flow. You want
to feel synchronicity. Think about if ever you've ever been
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in love, right, it didn't matter if you were sixteen
and had no money in high school, or whether you
were thirty and you just moved to a new city.
Everything in the world was magic because you had just
fallen in love. Right. That feeling of what's going on
inside of you, right, is really what you want. And
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then it turns out, and we're going to go into
all the details. When you feel that way, number one,
you just got everything you wanted, which is your own
inner being feeling lit up, connected, having equanimity, feeling authentic, feeling,
the feeling of just being at peace with yourself. So
that is what you want. But when you feel that way,
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that is what we would call a state of wholeness,
You then create the most amazing experiences in your life.
Because it is an energetic world. Atoms are energy and
everything that we communicate with we might think it's what
we said, We might think it's what we wore, we
might think it's where we went to college, but what
actually did the impressing with whoever we were with was
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our energy. So when we come from an energy of wholeness,
our whole life turns into the most incredible world because
our inner worlds will always be reflected in our outer experience.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
And for that snow globe effect of this is friends
looking at the on the outside looking in because I'm
experiencing what you just talked about. I am experiencing in
my life right now, so I can attest to what
Kathy is saying.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Is that it's very very true.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
But for maybe a skeptic or someone that thinks that
that's far away, what would you tell them.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Well, there's a lot that we want to unpack about it,
but typically it's because we look at what's happening around
us and we don't actually see right. We know that
we all have what's called the reticular activating system, which
is like a really you know, a cumbersome thing to say,
But the truth of the matter is, and you know
this one, you've heard this, But if I told you
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to look around the room and find anything that's orange,
you would. In fact, you would see things that were yellow,
and you would come back and say, well, you wanted
evidence of things that are orange, so you made them
orange too. And then I would say, okay, now look again,
and is there anything pink in the room. You wouldn't
remember because you were just folks on the orange stuff.
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So we have inside of our mind a way that
we prioritize what we're finding based on what we believe.
So two people can sit on the same bench in
the same moment in history and they see two different
worlds based upon what they believe. They're only going to
see what they're available to see. So in every moment,
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all possibilities exist. Right in every moment, we live in
an infinite field of possibility. The universe is so unbelievably magical. Right,
I look outside my window, I'm looking at nature. There's
nothing rushing, there's nothing worried, And somehow all of this foliage,
all these trees, all these plants are all diverse, they're
all interesting, and they all get what they need and
they do the most amazing dance together. Right, because the
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universe is set up to do that. Most people are
looking through the tiniest, most limited perception, right, because they're
in literally your body. And we can talk about this too,
but like there needs to be a little bit of
bio hacking here as well, because when you haven't slept,
you're filled with cortisol, you are malnourished, literally your body is,
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and your body believes it's in danger actually yep, so
your mind goes into fight or flight, right, So then
you could be like, these meditation apps aren't working for me.
It's like, well, because your body is actually seeping and poison.
You haven't slept, you haven't drank water, you haven't gone outside,
you haven't worked your body out, you haven't moved, you
haven't eaten anything but sugar and processed food. So there's
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also that. But even if you took that away, then
you would say, okay, how do I start to feel different? Well, equanimity,
as we know from the mindfulness world, is always one
breath away, but it's changing your perspective. Instead of looking
through the eyes of your amigdala, which is the back
of your mind, which is always in fight or flight,
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you look through the eye of your heart. Right, you
start moving from the back of your mind into seeing
the world, not through your mind, but through your being,
and when you do that, you realize your heart is
always a piece, your heart always is full, your mind
is always in lack. And what's interesting is when we
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started doing the research and we see people who are
in flow state. Michelangelo is in flow state, Michael Jordan
on the court is in flow state. Tom Petty playing
you know the guitar is in flow state. We now
understand that those people are not actually operating the left
part of the brain, which is all in analyzing mode
and overthinking mode. That's where all the court is all
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is right. That's where we generate lots of worry when
people are creating. You really can't both be creative and
be complaining at the same time and worried because creativity
is an act of play and surrender. And the true
people who are creating, even if you're saying I'm going
on a date instead of trying to control my spouse
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or my boyfriend, I'm going to let the day be
whatever it is, you'll have a better day because you're
not trying to control it. Right, You're in more creative mode,
like whatever's here, I'm going to find the joy in it.
You're gonna have a better time. So what I'm saying
is most of the time, we wake up in the
morning and our mind plays the same ten thousand thoughts
it played yesterday. So we're in groundhog Day and we
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think what we thought yesterday, because the mind has a
program that it's been running since we're like eight years old,
and it's very human gloom. It's fake news. And then
every thought secretes a chemical. So some thoughts make you
have serotonin, which makes you feel peaceful, Some thoughts literally
make you feel dopamine, which makes you feel excited, and
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some thoughts give you cortisol, which is stress. Well, ninety
percent of the thoughts that human beings think feed cortisol.
Drip a pharmaceutical of cortisol from your thought into your cells,
which makes you feel stuck. Then there are sometimes where
you're listening to music, all of a sudden you start
to feel like things are a little bit better, things
are possible, or you're with someone has really good energy.
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Next week you're like, I could do anything because you've
moved out of a little bit of that cortisol. You're
moving into a little bit more of flow. And when
you're in flow, your whole life starts to feel better.
So what I'm saying is, when we wake up in
the morning, the same way that I selected what I
want to what did I want to wear today, I
want people to select what do you want to think today?
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What do you want to feel today? When we realize
that most of the time we have a waffle iron,
so to speak, sitting on our desk, and it's not
plugged in. We're not using it for what it's meant for.
It's unplugged. Our very being most of the time is unplugged,
pugged into stress. We're plugged into the past. So instead
of being wired into the feeling of the wholeness, the
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feeling of love, vitality, surrender, creativity, we are not plugged
into our truth. We're plugged into the mind. It basically
unplugs us, and then we don't get much out of ourselves.
We don't get much out of the day.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
So you talked a lot about that, how it kind
of all comes together, and the way in which the
brain is operating and how you operate in it. Let's
kind of strip it down a little bit, and we
talked about the why and a little bit in that too.
But if I am starting from ground zero at the
very beginning, and you'll learn a lot about this through
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abundant Ever after the book, there's definitely steps on how
to achieve that. Where's the one place outside of biohacking
that someone could start this process of changing the way
that they think.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
First of all, knowledge is really powerful, right, Like the
whole thing we learn in mindfulness is that just being
aware actually changes your life. Right Like, if you know
that you have a cat, and you walk into your
house and there's no lights on, but you know where
the cat's water dishes, just by knowing it, just being
aware of it, you won't step into it. But if
your friend walks in right behind you and is not
aware of it, she'll probably stub her toe on the
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couch or the awareness. So what I want to share
with you I shared in the book is that I
was growing up, I didn't have any of this insight
at all. I grew up in a place where my
parents were miserable. They eventually got divorced. My mom suffered
from depression. She tried to commit suicide twice. And that
really set me up to ask really big questions because
things were really really dark, And after college, I took
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a little curious three week trip to Jerusalem, and I
stayed there for three years, and I learned Judaism and
Jewish mysticism and kabbola, and it changed my life. And
I sat there for three years and I learned with
this incredible rabbi and his wife and has lived with
his seven children. And then I moved to Los Angeles
and I studied at the Mindfulness Center at UCLA for
three years, and so I was able to couple like
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the science of what's happening inside of us, the science
of well being with spirituality, which really set me up.
So I just want to share one thing, which I
think is the first place to start, which is that
Einstein said that we don't see the world as it
is because the world is not three dimensional. It's not
three D, it's ten D. So this is what has
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to be the first thing, is that we see things
as separate. I see you as separate for me, right,
But really, if an atom is ninety nine percent energy
and one percent particle, and everything is made of atoms,
it means that we're swimming in a world that you
don't see with your naked eye, but it's all energetic.
So your energy does the heavy lifting, right. Oprah had
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a sign in her office the whole time she had
her show that said, be responsible for the energy you
bring into space, because what you offer another person is
your energy. When you're loving and connected and you're in
beginner's mind, you're not trying to be impressive. You're just present.
People love being around you, and you are the most creative,
tapped in person that you could be. Because we're all
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in a pool of energy. It's like you're a wave
in an ocean and I'm a wave in the same ocean.
So how could we be disconnected? Every wave isted? Now,
what Rabbi Aaron, who I talk about in the book,
shared with me that I think everybody loves when they
read the book. It's his metaphor, is that the word
kabala means to receive. So what does it mean. Well,
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I just set you up to know that the world
is made of energy. And he says, a radio is
another word for radio, is a receiver. Right when you
turn on a radio. If you put a radio right
here in this room, all of a sudden, you and
I would hear music. But what's even more cool is
if we change the tuning we could hear a multitude.
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I mean, you work for a radio station, we could
hear all different kinds of songs based on what radio state.
I remember growing up in South Florida. It was like
one oh two point seven was very different than one
oh three point five, and ninety seven point one was
completely different than ninety seven point nine. And that's not
even a whole point away ninety seven point three and
it's still ninety seven, but it's like totally different once
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leady on one's the Beastie Boys, right. What's interesting about
that is that what Rabbayrin said to me is before
you turn on the radio, where is the music? And
the answer is that it's hidden in plain sight. It's
in the room, but I'm not receiving it because I'm
not tuned to that frequency. Correct. I mean that sounds
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like woo, but it's very literal. I don't have the
capacity to tune into that frequency. But what's also interesting
is he said, what's deciding what broadcasts we're listening to?
Is the music deciding it? Or is the radio tuner
depending on where the radio is tune, is that decided
what music gets played? And so when we are tuned
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energetically to fear and shame and lack. We walk through
the world and we're just tuning to it. We feel
that in every we're like that person didn't like me,
or the world is such a negative place, like we literally,
or it's just constant right, and people receive us as
being in this place where we feel very broken, right.
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But when we're tuned to a place of being connected
to all that is right, really feeling the sense of
oneness and abundance and equanimity and peace and feeling satisfied
and looking at the fourteen shades of green outside your
window every day, then when you walk through the world,
you go, my god, the world is such a magical
place and all I see is the beauty in everything,
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and oh my god, people are so nice. Because you
are tuned to that, you will receive that back. If
you go into a guitar shop and you buy a guitar,
and you take a guitar off the wall and you
play the G string on your guitar, every guitar in
the shop will vibrate, but only the G string, because
it's literally a law of science called the law of residence.
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So what music you send out is the music that played.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
And a piece of getting to that place is about
reframing your thoughts. Now you've heard this before, You've read
it on a postcard somewhere, You've seen the words reframe
your thoughts, right, But it's.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Not just about what you tell yourself.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Something I also picked up from the book is it
is the feeling that you want to feel. You have
to practice that feeling because of that court is all
drip of negativity in your brain. Your programmed to feel
the negative things a lot easier. But if you can
sit and I've been practicing this myself when I read
it every morning before work, is what do I want
to feel like today? It is a challenge for me
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to conjure that up, but it does get easier over time.
And it's not just what do I want to tell myself,
it's also the feelings that I want to have today.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
You have to practice what that feels like. That was interesting.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Well, what's interesting about that is it is such a
practice because the way that we're raised is we all
feel like we need to be more in order to
be worthy. Seriously, so most of the day we look
at other people on Instagram or we think about who
our parents want us to be and essentially all day
long we feel lack like if I could have bigger
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piles of things, if I could achieve more, I'd finally
feel like I was enough. What Rabbi Aaron said to
me is we are all someone because we're some of
the one, like if God was the sound all the
array of that light. And what I mean is when
you get beyond that part of your brain that thinks
it's not enough, because you realize, Like my grandmother didn't
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go to school past the fifth grade. She was the
most compassionate person. She used to go to the grocery
store with me and ask the clerk, did you have
a hug today? Did anyone hug you? She would take
in stray dogs. She made such an impression on people,
not because of where she went to school or what
her bank account was, but her loving kindness. Right when
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you think about the blue zones, these people who we've
now found live into their hundreds, there's these places they
call blue zones where people live till one hundred and thirteen,
and we want to analyze them. And Dan Utner has
a show on Netflix called I Think one hundred Years,
and it's all about these people, they're not trying to
be something. They weren't raised in a culture that's saying
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how much money did you make today? How many achievements
did you post today on Instagram. They're just being They're gardening,
take long walks. It turns out we're meant to live
that way, and that's why they lived till one hundred
and thirteen with no cancer, with no issues. Why. Because
cortisol creates inflammation. We are all stipping on cortisol like
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a popsicle all day. Because cortisol is the part of
you that says I'm not enough and unless I achieve
more or consume more, I won't be enough. So of
course you have to practice that because you're in a
constant deluge of being told that. But those of us
who started practicing meditation or have a spiritual practice, we've
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let go of that. We're not trying to be somebody
because you're not a body. You're someone. You're some of
the one. You're you're a spark of the divine. What
are you trying to be? Be? You the most loving,
The most impressive person in the room is the most loving.
So what I'm saying is the more you set down.
It's like when I was in high school, I was
never going to be part of the popular crowd. Right
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I did theater. I was on my own track. So
a lot of kids were trying to fit in with
those kids. I didn't want to win the race that
they were trying to run. Right. It's like when you
step back and say, I'm just gonna have a slow morning,
I'm gonna enjoy my day. I'm gonna be here right
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now and actually not measure myself constantly like a human doing,
but a human being. What I'm saying is what's really fascinating.
And I've interviewed a thousand people on my podcast, Deepak Chopera,
Mary Williams and Tony Robbins, Matthew McConaughey, all these people
the name of the game. The funny thing is is
that we're all trying to chase success, but what we
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really want is not success. What we want is significance.
We want to feel significant. And what's interesting is when
we become significant. Every day we realize that we are significant,
Like we can when my gardener comes, my kids and
I have a race, who's going to get them a
cold drink the fastest and you realize you could be
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significant wherever you go. You could change somebody's day. You
could change your own life every single day just by
tuning the channel to peace. Right. What I'm saying is
the people who've chosen significance over success will become as
successful as they ever want to be because success usually
chases significance. And so what I'm saying is, it's like
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having your ladder on the wrong wall all the day
and climbing that and going it's leading me nowhere. What
I'm saying is, when you wake up, take your ladder
off that wall, say that's what everyone else is running toward.
It's not working right. Most of those people eat poorly.
They're exhausted, they're depleted. They're like, look, mom and I enough.
Now look what I've acquired. I've a range rover. Look.
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It's like you could be in the most beautiful hotel
in the world with a silk bathrobe on, but if
you just had a fight with your spouse, you don't
care that you're in this beautiful place. You want your
inner world to feel amazing. And what I am saying
is like I started a in my closet eight years ago.
It has fifty million downloads. I came to Los Angeles
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with no money, not knowing anybody, just being so in
love with life, so curious, so awake, and synchronicity finds
you because when you just feel good, you're already arrived.
It's that's what you want. In fact, if I say
to someone what are you looking for and they say, well,
my dream is you know this much money or this job,
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I go, well, the only reason you want that is
because of how you think it's going to make you feel.
So why would you wait for something to happen when
you could feel that way now? Like if I said
to you, let's practice feeling gratitude, let's think of the
things that we're grateful for, we would feel it. If
I said, let's think of what it feels like to
just surrender the outcome right now and just be in
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the feeling of flow and equanimity and serenity, we could
feel that good right now, And it's amazing when you
let go of needing things to happen. Yeah, it's like
a girl. I'll just I'll give you a last example.
It's like I have a friend who's been single forever,
but she talks about how the thing she wants in
her life is a man. Constantly, she wants it. She's
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so down about it. She wants to be loved and chosen. Now,
the more you want that and you go on a date,
how good is that date going to go? But if
you are someone like Zoe de Chanelle plays in every
character she plays, and you go on a date and
you just RCVP to your own party, you're having your
own good time. The guy's going to be into you
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when you want it so bad because you feel deep
down you're not enough until you have it, or life
sucks until you have whatever it is fill in the blank.
You'll just keep pushing it further away. But the more
you're in wholeness, the more you're in love with your life.
You're a blessing to everyone around you. And the funny
thing is that's when these little creative nudges come in,
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call this person move here, and that's when your life
starts to move into synchronicity totally and you start to
just feel like the best version of yourself.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
I loved the last piece a lot. I want to
ask I'm going to say something. I'm gonna ask a question.
It feels like you don't wake up to this style
of living until you've had some sort of major, traumatic,
chaotic life quake.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Right if you don't, Oh, i've.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Never heard that life quake? Yeahs really cool.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
When your life quake happens, that's when everything is stripped
from you, whatever, whatever your life quake is, whether it's
family related, job related, personal related, relationship related. When you
go through your life quake and you're just standing there
and the ground you once knew is very, very unstable,
it's almost when your senses become very keen and aware
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to changing your life around you. I feel like that
happened to me, and it probably awakened these feelings that
I already know from this book. It kind of woke
that up and I was able to lean in even harder. One,
do you agree simply? And then two, if you are
just living in your regular state with no life quake,
(24:06):
do you really believe you can go to that abundance,
that mindset of abundance and energy and really have a
better understanding of that without trauma happening? Because I almost
don't know if I can see that happening.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yes, I think, first of all, I understand why you
ask that, because I think it's very much the case
for a lot of people. When those I love your
word life quakes happen, it pushes them, it propels them
into shaking them loose of the software program their brain
was running and rewiring that software to see the world differently.
And also one hundred percent I think that we can
(24:43):
change the way that we see the world, that feel
and experience the world without trauma. It's kind of like,
you know when you go to the airport and you're
on those people movers. You know that sometimes in the
airport they have those things that it's like not an escalator,
but it moves you across the floor, and then you
get off of it and your body still moving for
a second and you're like, whoa, that's a weird feeling. Yeah,
(25:04):
when you first downshift right out of this program, that's like,
do more, create more, be moore, look at Instagram again,
Get the dopamine again, keep comparing yourself, your body. Let
right now, just so we all understand, cortisol, which is stress,
is more addictive. Listen to this than nicotine. So we
are all addicted to feeling like garbage literally, and you know,
(25:26):
when you're trying to get off sugar. We've all tried it,
and you're like, no, big deal, got this, and by
day two you're like, I want sugar. I'm craving it.
I need cabbage patch, tower patch, kiins whatever. It is
right when you start to get off the cortisol and
you start to say I'm going to read a daily
affirmation or I'm gonna write in my journal, or I'm
gonna take a walk, or take my shoes off and
(25:46):
put my feet in the ground and slow down. At first,
your body's gonna say, no, way, give me back the stress,
because whatever you're doing is registering as this doesn't feel safe.
This is unusual, right. It's kind of like if you've
been in a bad relationship and you start dating someone
really nice and you go, Dick, I'm not really used
(26:06):
to this. Why is he so nice? It's kind of gross.
I kind of used to a little bit of the stress,
a little bit of the dodginess, right, and you have
to repair and tell yourself, no, this this is called safe.
This is called love. This is called intimacy. It's new,
it's uncomfortable, but this is what it feels like when
(26:27):
somebody is kind and this is your It's kind of
like you go to the chiropractor and they adjust you
and they show you yourself in the mirror when you're
standing straight and you feel in your head like you're
all awkward, but you actually realize you've been walking out
of alignment and now they've straightened your hips and it
doesn't feel a mind. That's why I started with the
people move our analogy. When you first start to slow
(26:49):
the heck down and enjoy the little things in life
and put your hand on your belly and take deep breaths.
At first, you're gonna be like, what is this. It's
so weird. But I'm telling you because you are meant
to do it. I'm telling you because at the core
of who we are, there is a lot of well
being and there is a capacity for wholeness. You'll start
(27:11):
to feel Wait a minute, whoever that girl was that
I was pretending to be, who woke up every day
and was exhausted by the end of every day and
was always trying to be somebody, I have a lot
of compassion for her, but I don't need to be
her anymore. I love that cat, and so what I'm
saying is, no, you don't need a life quake. But
(27:34):
what I am going to tell you because you had
some insight here, it's uncomfortable the change. It's kind of like,
I'll just give one example. Another example. People will plan
for eight months to go on a vacation. They can't wait.
They take the time off work, they plan everywhere they're
going to go. They're gonna go to this little town
in the south of France, and they get there and
they can't relax, and it takes like three days to
(27:57):
get on the vacation. You're on right, So you get
there and you're like, I'm picking a fight with my husband.
I'm uncomfortable. It's like, yeah, because this is new and
there's no distraction, and now your mind is used to
constantly only being fed stress, and now you gave it peace,
and it actually wants to sabotage the peace because it
(28:19):
doesn't know what to do with it. Right, But eventually
you change how you adjust. It's like adjusting to a
dark room. Your eyes eventually adjust and you don't need
a life quake. You just need to sit through the
getting off the sugar and give yourself the time. It's
(28:40):
like going on a silent retreat, which hell, the couple days.
I've done a silent retreat every year for the last
five years. The first few days, I'm always like, why
did I decide to do this? And it's because at
the end of a week, I remember who I am
at the end of a week, and I remember what
the world is, and the world is magnificent. And you
(29:00):
don't need to do a silent retreat. I'm just saying
when you just have the awareness of what I just said,
and you just know that it is always within reach,
within you. How about taking two minutes a day, That's
what I'm saying. How about two minutes a day where
we practice we just start practicing wholeness.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Okay, well, so well before you say that, then let's
give a one sentence. If someone's like, yes, I'm soaking
up everything you're saying, where do I begin? Just one
simple sentence on where they start.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
So you close your eyes and you just, first of all,
notice how do you feel? Check in and then I
want you to just like you select your clothes. We
talked about that earlier. I want you to choose the
radio station. Now I want you to choose how do
you want to feel? And for ninety seconds, I want
(29:50):
you to feel what would love feel like today? What
would it feel like that everything is in divine order
and I don't need to hold every for everyone. Ooh,
what would ease feel like in my body? And you
hold that for ninety seconds and when you're done with
those ninety seconds, you will have a different day. You
(30:12):
will have a totally different day.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Kathy Heller Abundant ever After.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
I'm telling you I've read this book almost cover to cover.
I highly recommend picking it up as just a way
to start off your morning or whenever you have a
few minutes to catch some pages. She also has a
podcast titled the Same Thing if You Abundant ever After,
if you are a more of a listener person than
a reading person. But thank you so much for stopping
by Tip in the morning, Kathy here in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Thank you so much. Tiff. You have such a good
you have good energy and such a sweet personality and
I enjoyed being with you. Thank you,
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