THE BIG INTERVIEW - Maeta Talks Debut Album, Meeting Beyoncé, and Performs "Through The Night" LIVE!

THE BIG INTERVIEW - Maeta Talks Debut Album, Meeting Beyoncé, and Performs "Through The Night" LIVE!

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to another episode of The BigThe Big Interview Podcast. I know what
you want, I know what youthink. You right know. I don't
mind. I'm sad of being alonewith so much to dragon. People always

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ask me for advice and they're sosurprised that I've gotten here. But it's
just like you have to just believethat it's gonna happen and just don't.
It's don't give up. Sounds socorny, but seriously, like you never
know what's around the corner. Iwas looking at colleges and got signed like
a week later. Literally Big Boy'sneighborhood people there in the neighborhood. First
off, I would have to say, man, I had to track this

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one down, and I'm not gonnaeven go into a long intro. Made
a welcome to the neighborhood. Hey, hey you And for those that know,
they know if they don't, ohmy god. The way that I
found out too is I just wentdown made I went down and made a
rabbit hole. And you are soefing talented it's unbelievable. Well it's believable,

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but your talent for and not evenoh she's so young at town.
You're just talented, and I'm gonnatell you my introduction came. You will
hear certain things, right, Butmy fullest deep dive was my wife.
And when my wife was like,you know, oh, mate, oh,
you gotta hear this, you gotto hear that, And I would
just sit and I would listen andI would listen to your voice. At
one point I was catching the covers, you know what I'm saying, but

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just getting fully in amazing And thankyou for being in the neighborhood. Of
course, thank you for having me. It's my pleasure. It's my pleasure.
And I don't want to do awhole backstory. I'm pretty sure you
have a documentary in your future comingup where I don't have to do it.
But how did this start off foryou? Had you always grew up
singing, where you're always connected withmusic, I'm all, that's the only

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thing I've known my whole life isI'm gonna be a singer one day.
I've always wanted to be, notfamous. I just love to sing.
And I always was the singer mywhole life, since I was a kid
in church and then in school,like that's all I knew. I never
had a plan b. I don'tbelieve in plan bees, so yeah,
but then God is working out.Yeah, it is working out for you
though, But and you always kindof and just from looking at you did

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enjoy it, you know what I'msaying. And this family, there's family
members that do music as well orjust enjoy it. I was just played
in the house. It was playedin the house, but nobody sings,
right, Okay. Did you everthink, you know how sometimes you figure
like, man, will this cometo me? Did you know what was
gonna happen? Or I knew likeit was something that was just inside of
me. I always just knew.Again, I don't believe in plan bes.

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I never had one, so itwas like it had to work out,
you know. And I was antigoing to college right I turned eighteen,
I kind of started looking at colleges. But then Rock Nations signed me.
Thank god, I got to leavehome, leave Indiana because I was
like, not gonna stay there.But yeah, and we'll come back to
the rock Nation. But I dowant to touch you. How did Rock
Nation find you? So my managerat the time, I was like eighteen

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years old. I was just doingInstagram covers and he sent my cover to
Omar Grant, who's now president ofrock Nation, but he was just an
an R at the time, andhe flew to Indiana. We got dinner.
I didn't sing for him nothing.We just got dinner. And then
a few weeks later I was signedand I moved and my life has been
completely different since then. I waslike five years ago. How crazy was
that grind for you? Though?Because you grow up knowing that you love

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music and you want to sing it. But how is that grind? Is
there talent shows? Is there anybodythat would listen? Kind of thing?
Yes? I love to sing foreverybody. I did a lot of all
those like stupid reality shows. Idid the not stupid right right right.
I did The Voice, America's GotTalent, American Idol. I never missed
you want to televise the Voice?I did the blind audition, but it

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didn't I didn't get a chair turnand then it wasn't televised. Think the
Lord. I hope they never releasedthat footage. They will, Oh it
was bad. Yeah, it's inevitablethough, because soon as they, like
right now, we probably bringing toomuch attention. I know, like,
let me stop talking about Yeah,But so you had made it to the
taping. Yes, okay, didn'tget a chair turned, but I was

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nervous. I think that was theissue. But I couldn't hear anything.
I was like cover my ear likeit was weird. And so the talent
shows, all the you know,the want to get in on the TV
shows, So there's a lot oftuition into the school of experience before we
get a chance to like know exactlywhat you're doing exactly. Did you have
a give up on it? No, I get frustrated with it. I

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think I see my life as amovie sometimes, and I think that even
how you said documentaries, like everystruggle, every time I'm like crying about
to give up, it's like it'sjust part of the movie. Like one
day I'll just watch this back andbe like, thank god I didn't.
Did the family support support it aswell? I think they secretly didn't believe
it. Like my dad, he'svery go to college whatever. My mom
always supported me, but I thinkthat they had their doubts. I used

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to cuss my brother out because heused to always just like be like,
you're never gonna make it. Makeit. But that's like a little bit
that was supposed to do yeah,I think people had doubts, but nobody
ever let me know. And youknow, it's crazy, like even with
my kids, right, you wishand hope for the best, but then
also you want to shield them fromcertain things exactly, And it's not I
don't think it's about like belief,but it's like, damn, you know

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you wanted to happen for them.But the music business. When someone comes
home and they say, I wantto be a singer. I want to
be in a music business, thatcould be a scary thing for a parent
as well or just anyone, especiallyin Indiana. They don't know nothing about
that, you know, like mydad's a landscaper, my mom's a massage
therapist. They don't know about themusic industry. So I think that it

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was a lot, but thank godthey gave me the freedom to just do
what I wanted to do, youknow, And did you create more on
once you got that social media bugwhere you knew it like, man,
I could do these covers, Ican I could put these out. Yeah.
I was probably just gonna do thattill I died until something happened.
Thank god something did. But thatwas just my life. I didn't made

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the Monday's but I'm so inconsistent.I never did it on Monday, so
I have sound though it sounds good, but it did not work. I
mean it worked a little bit,but whatever you hear, Yeah, exactly
sign a nation, you know,and when people think about all, it's
an introduction and some people will seeyou blow up and they don't understand the

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backstory. It'd be sometimes where it'slike, oh, you know, overnight
sensation made it, but it's like, man, if it was overnight,
it was a longe night exactly,and a lot I'm pretty sure a lot
of sacrifices and a lot of thingsyou had to give up as well.
Yeah, I would say that's probablythe hardest part, was just the sacrifices,
my friends being mad at me becauseI can't hang out. I gotta
go do this. I was sucha weird. I was a kid.
I didn't want to go out becauseI was like there was one time I

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had a crush on a boy andI went to my mom's room when I
started sobbing because I didn't want toget distracted from my dreams. So I
was. I was always weird andlike sacrificing things as a kid that I
really didn't even need to but keepthe eye on the price. Yeah,
Like I was a weirdo about it. But I mean when I got signed,
I moved to La alone. Ihad to leave my family, I

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didn't have any money. So Ithink that those are like the little sacrifices.
But it's just part of the journey. What about the parts of the
business that's just you know, that'sjust scary for artists, you know,
and especially women and things of thatnature. You know, you get people
and you want you got this dream, but sometimes the dream can become a
nightmare. Did you experience any ofyou know, the gatekeepers? And I

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think that's been kind of a themein my journey. It's a lot of
men that like to take advantage ofyounger women. And I've always been very
open and I'm naive a little bit, not anymore, but at one point
I was and I have a lotof experience with that, but I don't
know, it's just made me likestronger. I guess that's like the theme.
Yeah, and you see it andespecially when you think like you want

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something so bad and you know thatit's your will and you want it,
and then you'll have somebody that youfeel like, man, this person can
get me in. This person isthe next step. And a lot of
times, man, you know,it's it's just a lot of bullet that's
out there too, you know.And you could love the music, but
then the music business is a littlesomething different for you, right. I

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saw this quote on Instagram the otherday. It was like, anything that's
for me, I won't have tochange my character to get it, and
it was kind of come to me. So I think that that's good advice
for anybody that thinks they need tolike do some crazy, yeah messed up
stuff to get to their dreams.Well, you ever in a group where
you were always solo? I couldnot do a group? Really, you
never tried. No, you know, sometimes it to be like you and

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your little homegirls, and then you'llfind you'll find it, Like you're better
at a soulo artists, you justknew. I don't think anybody could sing.
That's my issue. If I hadsinging friends as a kid, we
probably would have done that. Butnone of your friends were singers. Is
anybody not surprised? Are most peoplenot surprised that you're here? And I
don't mean here in the neighborhood.But just like I knew, I knew
she was she was destined for this. I think people knew, but I

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think a lot of people, likeespecially from Indiana, I have a lot
of people from school that dm melike, oh my god, I can't
believe it because we went to schooltogether and there weren't really many opportunities opportunities
music wise. So I think seeingpeople seeing where I'm at now and the
people that I'm around and the youknow, even being in LA like,
it's surprising. But I don't thinkpeople are shocked. I think people are
shocked that I'm still doing it nowbecause a lot of people give up.

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I had. I had some singerfriends as a kid, but they all
had plan B. He's like,oh, if it doesn't work, and
be a surgeon or whatever. Andto me, I was like, what
right, How could you ever wantto do something else? You knew that
you weren't going to go and getlike the college degree and follow down that
road. Yeah right, No,did before you start doing the covers and
the covers that we were able tosee, were you just singing for anybody

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that would listen out? Yeah?But I was also so shy, like
my mom had this jewelry party onceand I planned on singing for everybody,
and then the moment came and Icried and ran upstairs. How old are
you at that time? Probably liketen or eleven, maybe less? Did
you get stage fright now? Isthere anything now? Oh? Every time?
I'm terrified, But I used to. I just wanted my first tour,

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so that kind of opened me up. People were singing my songs back
to me. It was my fans, but I opened up for Jazzone Sullivan
and her and those tours, Iwould literally stay by the mic the whole
time, not move a muscle.The scariest part was walking out in the
like, I hate it moving infront of people. Wow, I don't
know. And then I would Iwould go on Twitter afterwards and search my
name and they'll be eating me upon there. Oh but it's okay,

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people know they wouldn't. People didlove the performance because the voice and everything,
but like her stage presence, andI would be like, damn,
that was my biggest answer, Carey, why did you go look for it?
Though? I think that's a signof the times too. But you
know how you can have a hundredgreat ones. Then it could be that
one, and that's the one thatsaid I love First of all, I'm

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like obsessed with myself, So Ilove explain. Mean, I just love
knowing what people think good or bad. Like I do it every day just
because I kind of want to knowwhat people think of me, you know,
because I see myself now as aproduct. So it's kind of like
how do people see me now?So I love doing it, but the
mean comments, I kind of loveit a little bit. Sometimes your intent,

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your intent is to go look,yeah, but not for the hand
right right right, But just socurious and it's funny to me. So
so fast forward. Now do youwalk around? You know how to pace
the stage? Now? Yeah?Do you still get the bug? Oh?
Of course? Do you take alittle shot for stage? Do you
have superstitions that like before our prewitch rituals before you get on, we

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always pray and I always take ashot of Hennessy. I don't know why,
I just do it helps me loosenup a little bit. And what
were you doing before you there's ashot of hennessy? You know? Like
now you probably when I was younger, I would cry before performance. I
would think about it for a monthbefore, and now it's like, I'll
just get nervous an hour before andI'm good. Why why do you think

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and not the truma on? Butwhy do you think, like even if
it was a month before, anhour before, what do you think that
is that you know that? Idon't know. I used to have not
nightmares, but I could. Iwould lose sleep knowing I had to perform
in front of people in a week. I don't know why. It just
felt so terrifying. But now it'sfun, right, But I think I
used to have to prove to strangers. Now it's people that know who I

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am, so it's more comfortable andmore fun. And I don't have to
like plan everything. I used toplan every single word I was gonna say,
and I would rush off the stage. My team would be like,
can you breathe? Right? Iwould talk so fast? But yeah,
I've gotten better, thank God.And now that you see that you have
gotten better, though, you know, is there anything now that you and
not to have people on social medialook at it? But dude, do

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you critique yourself any different now?Yeah? I hate watching them back.
Yeah, I know when we werejust out there talking about any of you
I saw you like, oh,I hate watching the videos back. But
my team's very hard, not veryhard on me, but they do not
sugarcoat anything. So I have anhonest team. That's just like, that
was weird. Why did you saythat? Oh? Really, they do
that? You? I mean,I can't like that. You look stupid.

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They don't yell. Okay, it'smore of a like they're all from
New York. They love to talk, and we just like they just make
fun of me. But it's good. And when you say now, it's
a little different because now people doknow you, you know, and if
they don't know you, they're knowingyou. Yeah, And they do know
you, and they know the materialas opposed to you going out and probably

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singing a cover song and people like, oh, you know something compared to
oh, she sounded like such andsuch like she handled that well. And
then you know, when you're opening, you know, sometimes most times you
know, you're waiting for the houseto get filled, you know what I'm
saying, or you're in front ofthe curtain, and those days are,
if they're not completely over, soonto be completely over. Do you enjoy

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where you are now? Oh?Yes, I'm having the time of my
life and I'm going to Europe andI'm traveling the world, and I'm just
doing all these things that I dreamedof doing. And I think my family
is kind of an awesome times thatjust that I'm doing the things that I
always said I would. But Ithink that it just shows that consistency works
and you cannot give up. Andit sounds so corny, yeah, but

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you seriously just can't. Is itcrazy that music is taking you around the
world. Yeah, because sometimes I'mlike, like, I have my bad
days, but it's like maybe youget to sing and talk to people and
get paid, you know, likethat's what I do. It's still yours
though, you know how some peopleare like, oh, you know,
Champagne problems are you? Like,no, it's still right, It's still

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your you know what I'm saying,Like everything has issues, Yeah, and
when people are like, oh ifI had that out and like, no,
you wouldn't right, No, youwouldn't trust me. Yeah, yeah,
and everybody has And I mean,you could be as happy as you
want to be with you, Imean, and that's that's that music vibe
too. You gotta live what you'retalking about, do you put in a
lot of your feelings. Is musictherapeutic for you as well? Yes,

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I am a lover, I'm aPisces. I'm very emotions. Your birthday
March sixteenth, Wow, because someof the I've never met the pisces I
don't like, and I've never metsomebody where I'm like, there are pisces.
My mom rest in peace, Pisces. What was her birthday? She's
February twenty third. I love FebruaryParces. My son February twenty second.

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Really, yeah, my sister isMarch fourth. Okay, you know what
I'm saying. Like, and I'vemet Jose, who I don't want to
talk about. But my guy,Jose, he's a piscy man, you
know what I'm saying. He alwaysfind little parts of the interview then he
puts that up. I don't wantto say too much, but yeah,
I've never met a pisces I don'tlike. Okay, good, Yeah,

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but there's like pisces drama. Ithink parties don't like each other. And
so you're saying that music is therapeuticfor you. Yeah, I'll do a
sing about my issues. Everything's real, everything's about the same man. The
same man. Yes, yes,it is. Yeah. So, and
my wife is just who never comesup to any of my interviews. My

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wife is here, no need toput her on camera. Yeah. So
you were saying even that that shedon't be mad, beat, don't be
man. Everybody thinks that's about awoman. It's about a man. Yeah,
and that's about the same guy.Yeah. So I've been dealing with
this man for like six years,met him when I moved to LA and
just fell in love. But it'smy first love. I've never been in

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a relationship before. But we aretogether, not together, not together together.
We broke up last night literally,oh yeah. But I think that
I don't know. It's complicated,but everything thing is about him, but
it inspires me. I think it'shard because it's like I think I'm addicted
to the emotions of it because itfuels me. He's like my muse kind

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of and when I'm sad, Iget to sing about it. So what.
I hate the word toxic. It'sso overused, but it's very toxic.
But it's fine. It's just nottwo day, well almost last night.
I think last night it ended,but I just know it's gonna start
again. Like, I just know, but y'all don't live together, right,

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No? Is he ready for everythingthat's coming ahead of you. I
think that's an issue. I thinkthere's a little bit of insecurity with that.
The bigger things get, I thinkthe more I start catching him at
attitude all the time, and I'mjust like, what's your attitude? But
it's like, okay, you justdid this, you did this, You're
about to go here. It causesfights. Is he in the business?

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Yeah, so I think he understandsit. But and you can't trust these
men in the business anyway, damn. So thank you for Veronica Jesus Christ.
I don't think so, yeah,we do. No, I will
never say the name. We writeit down. I'll say, okay,

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i'll tell you afterwards, tell menow, because because then I got to
cut back into the interne. Sohe is somewhat in the business, and
he's not here. So I don'twant to do too, because I mean,
you know, he's not here becauseit's obviously he's not as famous as
you are. Yeah, damn you. I don't like. I don't like

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dating other artists. There's just suchan ego and I think that they have
a thing where they want amuse.They just want a pretty girl to like
sing about or like rap about whatever. And it's like, no, they
don't. They don't ask questions aboutyou. That's what I've learned dating like
other artists. But you know whatwhat you've been with him for six years,
but you all go in and outand you date somebody else, kind
of date. I date around,but he's dating around two. Like we're

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not loyal, we're not relieving together. It's just we here's the thing.
We love each other to death,and there's a sense of like we're together,
but we're not. I know he'sdoing I'm doing my own stuff.
And you said it's complicated, complicated, and then you say with the Fellas,
the Fellas are like, oh,you know something to rap about something,
but also don't be mad. Inother songs too, you ask did

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you go yeah? What else?Exactly? So when you do write a
song that's not and something, youknow, if there's a song where it's
beautiful, or there's a song whereit's like you know, you kind of
digging in on a relationship and yousee it, you see it start to
blow up, what does that do? I think it just does nothing.
But feed his ego. I thinkhe loves it. Really, he's a

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Leo and they're the most narcissistic menof all time. What do you I'm
a virgo? Okay, I'm noteven a zodiac by the way, hey
man, because I was about toask you what about virgos? No,
I don't know. But everything thatyou know about a Leo, he fits
that. Yeah. I like.I like the fire, I like the

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aggression. I think. Anyway,enough about him, yeah yeah, yeah,
so one more about him though,So so the way that things are
moving now. And you say,last night y'all had an argument. You
know, you don't know where it'sat now. Yeah, not even an
argument. We didn't argue. Itwas just like I can't do this anymore
because all you do is line.I just catch them line all the time,

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and it hurts the same every time. It's like mata. Everybody that
gives me advice, it's like,what do you expect? You know what
it is? Start moving, like, know what it is. But for
some reason, I just can't getout of my damn emotions. Damn anyway,
but we didn't. We didn't fightlast night. It was just like
I'm done and it's like, okay, I'll get out. Bye, I'm
going to hit you in the DMnext week. I'm gonna be like y'all
together. Yeah, he's sitting nextto me right now. When do you

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So, when do you start yourtour? I just finished tour. I'm
looking for a tour this year.So did you just finish your your solo
tour? On my first tour?All right, how did that feel for
you? Amazing? I was inParis in London shows like wow, crazy
and I came from Indiana, solike having sold out shows in Paris is

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just crazy to me. It wasamazing. I have a lot of memories,
a lot of weirdos. Yeah yeah. And when you said a lot
of weirdos, just like, okay, let me not sound rude. I
have amazing fans, but there wasjust some people I just have like memories
with, like some weirdos in thecrowds, you know what I mean?

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And are there any are there anyweirdos in this room? Maybe? Yeah?
Okay, just kidding the one I'mthinking, Oh, he's very quiet
over there, he's right notes.So with your own tour, is it
different demands for you to do?You have like your own what's on your
writer contract? My writer is foodwise a bottle of Hennessy to sound like

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an alcoholic, but I do needa little shot, okay, whatever,
a fruit tray, veggie trae,Doritos, hot sheetos. Are you hard?
Damn? Let my background singers gettheir own stuff, so it's candy.
Are you hard to work with?No O? I have gotten a
lot better because I think that thefirst few years of my life working with

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a label for the first time,I have my own vision and I'm kind
of a control freak a little bit. And I've gone through a couple of
managers to find the right people.So I think that it took a lot
of learning. But now my team. I love my team. We all
work so well together. We're veryhonest, and we have fun and we
have a lot of fun. ButI am I think that I could be
annoying, but I'm not like hardto work with. I'm just annoying.

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Like I know, I get outsideof music, what do you do or
what's like a chill time or togo to dinner and drink wine and just
eat pasta and like online shop issimple? Hey? Is that harder for
you? Now? Knowing that theworld is watching. No. I think
sometimes when I go on dates withthis man, it's hard because people see

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the man I'm talking about all thetime. So I think that that's kind
of a thing that's not been hardat all, But it's just kind of
been thinking like, Okay, let'sjust be careful. I guess do you
see marriage in your future? Ithink so, But sometimes I feel like
I'm gonna end up like Oprah andjust never get married. Yeah, easier

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to live with you just somebody thatpop out sometimes, Yeah, I can
go do my own thing. Idon't like feeling that's my issue though.
I don't feel like I don't likefeeling like I belong to somebody or somebody
owns me. I think that's beenkind of a weird thing. I think
that's why I love this relationship thatI have so much, because we're not
together, so I get to befree when I want to. So we'll
see the toxic usy Oh, yousay you don't like using toxic. Yeah,

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but I don't know a word toreplace that way. Well, you
said when you when we first started, you said it was a yeah,
I do complicated hey man, speakingof another word that I saw you hate.
You don't like vibe? When yousay, oh man, oh my
god, it's a vibe, Ijust feel like that word it's so over
yeah. But the other thing withthat, it's like, what word do

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you use? I think that thoseare just easy words. I think I
just don't like music being I don'tlike vibe music. I guess what do
you listen to? All sorts ofstuff? I listen to? What am
I listening to right now? Today? On the way here, I listened
to two thousands hits the whole ride. I was listening to like Lady Gaga
and Rihanna and Katy Perry. Forsome reason, I just needed to pick

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me up. I listened to alot of gospel music. I love R
and B of course, just randomstuff. My family grew up listening to
like John Mayer and like the Equallike rock, and then when I went
to school, I started listening toR and B. So really everything.
What was jay Z saying to youon the carpet? Okay? So me
and him are pals. Every year. He's very nice to me every single
event. Even I went to theBeyonce show in New York and he brought

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me back and I just hung outwith hanging the whole time, and then
he was like, we're gonna godown here. Like he's very nice to
me and welcoming. He always givesme advice. At the Book of Clearance
from here, he came up tome. We caught eyes while he was
taking pictures, and he came overand he just told me that everybody I
did the Soul Train Awards and hetold me to just keep going. Everybody's
been talking about your Soul Train performanceand it's always just advice. Met Beyonce

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once. She told me she lovedmy music. Because here's a little story.
My an R was playing one ofmy songs in his office at the
Rock Nation office, and I thinkBeyonce and jay Z every once in a
while was just check up on peopleand walk around, you know, and
he said that he was I havea song called sexual Love, and he
said he was listening to that andhe had his head down or whatever,
and he looked up and Beyonce andjays had walked into his office and he

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said they were like, what isthat? And he sent him the song.
And then a few days later theRock Nation Christmas party, I met
her and she told me my musicwas beautiful and she loved that song,
so that's kind of the story withthat. But I've only met her once.
How crazy is that that you woulddo covers? And were you always
kind of like a Beyonce? Iwas psycho. I think that I would

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try to sound like her so bad. I would recreate her performances and take
videos on myself like doing what shedoes. So it was a weird obsession.
What songs? One plus one?I sing that on my tour.
Yeah, I've seen that now ontour. That's my favorite song of all
time. The Dream wrote it,and he also wrote a song on my
project, which is crazy too.Just yeah, it's crazy. I have

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to sometimes things are so normal nowthat I have to kind of force myself
to remember, Like Mada, thisis if you were twelve right now,
you will be sobbing, you know. But when I met her, it
just felt so normal. So sometimesI'm like, am I jaded? Or
like you know what I mean?Hold on, that's my wife's song?
Yeah, go ahead, but it'sit's really crazy. Do you do listen?

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That One's a struggle. I'll haveto pitch that down if you really
that's the one I was like,oh, man, can you sing something
for us? Yeah? I wasgoing to wait for you, no going
to because she came all the wayhere. Yeah, I would with anything
in particular or anything. I wantto hear one plus one because that's your

(26:41):
favorite. Yeah, I would loveto do that one plus one one past
one. I'll do that fine atnothing at you. Fine ain't something.
I don't give it them because Igot it with you. I don't know

(27:03):
much about algebra, but I knowthe one one nichals two and it's me
and you. That's all we haveand the broad is through because baby Pee
ain't God nothing without a load,and Darling ain't goden for the both of

(27:36):
us. So come on, babyMay loves me. I guess that's damn
man. Amen, I sing anythingelse if you want me to. All
right, well, hey, youdon't know Valerie by uh, I really
don't know that song. Everybody tellsme to cover that. I don't know.

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I was going to hit you like, dude, can you please learn
Valide? That actually was a songthat we talked about doing on tours.
Oh my god, you would killthat. Yes, I don't know that.
I don't even not knowing that youdid you do it? Well,
she wouldn't know, she would likeMallory valideh. Mallory is all right,
Uh, what else I'll do it? Don't be mad about that, man,

(28:26):
Okay, I am man. Isthat on on the best that you
have putting on Versachi and black black, get in that. I told you,
Remember that Bay, Now that I'mlaying any sheets, got him brand

(28:49):
new. I feel so good withoutyou. Was shooting and play those games.
Yay. Yeah, don't be Istarted a little too high. Don't
be man, now that probably I'mon your screens. I've been making new

(29:11):
friends coming on tie Tie dropped,no time for blues. You took your
shot block block God blocked you.Hey that you know I've been there before.
None up, don't be mad.Yeah. In the neighborhood, yum,
stick around y'all radios, big boys, neighborhood. I was talking about

(29:36):
it was times where I've seen thisthese journeys before, and I know you've
been working extremely hard on your careerbeing you, and I was like,
dude, I've seen these these thingshappen, and I'm I can't wait to
see your journey than you know.And I was talking about how I remember
just a Destiny's child coming into theneighborhood, just just young and you know,

(30:00):
can we do the show and youknow, and seeing where they Beyonce
eble where they have went since then? And I mean I can go on
and on about the people that I'veseen that sat in chairs in front of
us. So I can't imagine andI can't wait to see what's happening with
you. Thank you very very much. Yeah, and then you too,
YouTube will stop doing my show andnothing of anybody last time. This is

(30:27):
probably it. So you're saying youmay go out on tour even more so,
not sure. I know that Ihave a project with Nada. Do
you know? K Trinada? Whatdid they? Why am I knowing this?
He's like a dance music Okay,got you, got you, got
you. I have a project withhim coming out, just like I've been
crying too much about this man,So I just want to have fun and

(30:48):
go out and go to the club. So that's what this project is.
It's like a little EP that'll comeout in the next few months and then
I have an album, my debutalbum. I don't know when it's going
to come out, but that's thisyear for sure. I just started working
on it and I'm just singing andcrying and whatever. He too tour this
year, probably, but I don'tknow yet. It's crazy that you say
my debut album because it hasn't.I know, everybody thinks my most recent

(31:11):
project is my debut, but itwas. But I'm kind of saying it
is a little bit because it's doingso well. It's like, okay,
right, right, right, youwant to call it that. It's fine.
So now I saw you with forReal? Yes, what's going on
with for Real? So earlier lastyear. I can't believe it's twenty twenty
four now, but I went toMiami and did a few days with him
and we did a few songs.We did like four or five songs,

(31:34):
and we haven't put those out yet, so those are on the way too.
Do you feel like you live inyour dream? Oh? Yes,
yeah, it's just crazy. Idon't know. But things when I live,
when I have those moments, thingsdon't feel like it doesn't feel like
oh I made. It just feelskind of normal, you know. But
then it's like I have to remindmyself that this is normal, you know

(31:56):
what I mean? But it iscrazy, and I'm making my friends and
family from home proud, So that'sall that really matters. But what do
your family say about the success thusfar? They just my dad's so scared
I'm never going to come home again. So he's always texting me, like
trying to get me to go home, and it's like, I'm never going
to not go home, you knowwhat I mean. I think that they
get a little nervous sometimes that I'mgonna get carried away. But I don't

(32:20):
think that is even in me,you know, I don't think that's I
have a community. Now. Idid move here alone. What brought you
to La? I got signed It'sa Rock Nations, so and that was
it? Had you ever lived herebefore? I had been here like once
for a few days my mom,My mom used to go everywhere with me,
So yeah, but I've been heresince then. I had no money.

(32:44):
I would just take the train everywhere, in the bus, the train
that nobody knows about. And Ididn't even have wife. I couldn't even
afford Wi Fi in my apartment,you know. And now I just bought
a car the other day. Likeit's just crazy how life works. I
just want to say to not No, I'm just I am. People always
ask me for advice, and I'mso surprised that I've gotten here. But
it's just like you have to justbelieve that it's going to happen and just

(33:07):
don't It's don't give up. Soundsso corny, but seriously, like you
never know what's around the corner.I was looking at colleges and got signed
like a week later, literally,you know, so you never know when
your moment is. And I justif you have a dream and it's in
you and you know that that's what'sfor you, just don't do something else.
And you say you just recently boughta car. Is that your first
car that you bought? Like thisis mine? Yeah? Do you have

(33:29):
a license yet? Yeah? ButI just got a year ago and you
why yeah, because you know why, I'm a year since I have.
It's been a large portion of mylife that I've been Like, man,
there's a question that I always askand I even asked when I would go
to the DMV, and I stillup here. I work at the DMV.

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You answered that question, and thequestion is did you get into an
accident on your driver's test? Okay, you know what now, I know
you do your a little research.Yeah, Terrell show. Yes, I
did get in an accident in mydriver's test, but it was it was
in a bad accident, but yougot in. It was nobody died,

(34:14):
nobody died, nobody got hurt.The car drive away. So my mom
took me to get This is anIndian This is why I didn't get my
license. I took years to getit again, or to try even again.
I'm madic, Yeah, it reallywas. I was like sixteen or
seventeen, and in Indiana, whereit's the easiest place to drive in the
world, so that already tells yousomething. But I was parallel parking and

(34:35):
I just hit the car that Iwas parking by. It was a truck.
It was like an old red truck. And the guy came out.
He did not care at all.He was like whatever. And the girl
was the girl that was with me. She was one of the D and
V girls that's like follows every rule, teacher's pet so she was livid and
my mom was just laughing. Butthe guy came out, he didn't care.
You knew you failed then, Ohyeah, yeah, yeah, man.

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I think honestly, I think partof me thought I didn't because I
was looking at her like is therestill a chance? And she was like,
so obviously I can't pass you.And I was like, damn,
So do they let you drive back? No? My mom had to come
get me from the spot from thepark, the place where I hit the
damn car, and I was inthe craziest parties. I had to they

(35:20):
let you drive your own car forthat, right, I think everybody does
it right. So I was inmy mom's car, so she had another
DMV person to come driver. Soit was just a whole mess. So
she had to get somebody from theDMV to drive her to the scene of
an accident and then drive you home. The worst part is that they announced
it at the DMV in front ofeverybody, so she had to deal with

(35:42):
the embarrassment of like, my daughterjust here is here. She failed her
test. Her mom will be takingher home now. Please get your failed
test stamped at window twelve. Thankyou exactly. Literally, Hey man,
that's a different kind of walk ofShane where you're like, I know,

(36:07):
but you were young too, thoughkind of, but I was still even
late. Like it was so funnybecause all my little cousins were like,
we're my cousins are like ten yearsyounger than me. They were like,
made it, We're going to gettheir license before they before you, And
they actually did. But whatever,I haven't Now I love to drive.
I can't believe I didn't try sooner. Yeah, did you drive here today?

(36:30):
Yes? I did? Oh,go ahead, now park, you
put your seat belt on. Idid Have you gotten into any fender benders
or any accidents since then? Yes? You have. Well, there was
one time I was backing up andI just didn't even look. I've backed
right into a car with my friend. I was just but not like,
no reason why. I just didn'tlook. I hit a tesla. But

(36:52):
I got out and they didn't haveany damage, so it was fine.
Did you leave? I left afterI got out and checked with them to
make sure it's okay. Right,So the owner of the tesla was there,
Yes, okay, so you justdidn't leave this He was actually on
the day. That was the worstpart. And the girl. The girl
said bye to him. She waslike, bye, I think he was
dropping off at home. Wow,And had they had to awkwardly say bye

(37:14):
after I hit his car. Everything'sso awkward. With me every single story
I have. Amen, But allmy friends voted that I'm the best driver
out of all of us. That'sbad. They're a good driver. I
really am. I just sometimes amin my own world. I think that's
the issue. But you back therewithout looking, so you pretty much drive
by. Feel like if I don'thit anything, I'm good exactly. Yeah,

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And look you got here today,I did. You didn't park on
P one? Did you? Iparked on P. Two? Okay,
as long as I'm good. Soright now you're recording your album? Yes,
are you standing out of your ownway? Are you too critical of
your music now? No? I'mactually my an R fights me because he
pushes me, like through the Nightmy song. We recut that so many

(37:58):
times because I had too much autotune on it and he wanted me to
hit those high notes at the end, and I don't want to do that
because sometimes I think I can belazy. I think that I don't.
I think I sometimes struggle with tryingnot to seem like I'm proving I can
sing, you know, And somepeople it's just like they you can tell
they just want you to know theycan sing. So sometimes I try to
avoid that, but then my teamwill be like stop. So can I

(38:22):
sing now what? Through the night? The night for it's like a little
talent. I'm about to take myheels off because they're falling off. Okay,
I know what you want, Iknow what you think you right,

(38:45):
I know I don't mind. I'mtired of being alone, wait too much
to drag, and I'm tired ofwasting some you know that love don't come?
He say, yeah, how doI know you leave me? Can

(39:07):
you go for mind? Feeling somethings? I ain't feel it? I
thank you should try try to blowmine. No, no, think you

(39:28):
should try to dry me through thenight, jail. I keep starting songs
way too high and in the highnotes coming. I'm struggling. But whatever
have you met any No, yousound amazing? Thank you? Have you
met anyone that you felt like?Damn? Not that they're my peer now,

(39:52):
but dude, I'm a I'm afan of this person. Oh yeah,
like everybody, even the dream likeI'll just text him. Who else?
I feel like? Like Chris Brown? Okay, here's a story.
The other day. This is thedumbest thing I've ever done in my life.
I got a text I have asong with Chris Brown that came out
a few months ago on his albumI can't This is so embarrassing. I

(40:13):
got a text one night from likeChris Breezy dot management at gmail dot com
and he was like, hey,made bl blah blah blah, I have
this song I want you on.He called me from a different number.
I got two miss calls. I'mso mad, two miss calls. I
didn't see them. I called himright back. He was like, sorry,
my service is super bad, butcan you listen to this song and
let me know what you think?I want you on it? Whatever,

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send me an iCloud link and thenI clicked the link and obviously it didn't
work, and I typed in myinformation like my iCloud info and then I
was like, this is a scam. So I sent it to my one
of my an r's Ethan and Iwas because I was like, I'm gonna
make him be hacked it at me. So I sent it to him and
he was like made it. Thisis completely a scam. Whatever. So

(40:57):
then I texted the number back likenice try and they were like ha ha.
Then I searched the number on cashapp that called me and it was
somebody named like Lawrence or something.So I was like Lawrence, and they
said, how did you know?And then I just blocked the number.
So I'm an idiot. First ofall, I'm I think my phone is
tapped right now. The whole partof the story that was that I texted
Chris Brown after like did you sendme this link? And he was like
no, it's definitely a scammer,and then me and him start talking.

(41:20):
So basically, right now my phoneis taffed. I'm so worried that why
do you think your phone is?Are you hearing things or something? The
other day I was trying to likego to dry bar and get a blowout,
and some weird I some weird ICloud number popped up or I Cloud
email popped up. That's not myiCloud. So I'm just like somebody's in
my phone, and I'm so worriedthat on Twitter tomorrow I'm about to wake

(41:43):
up and see something that I don'twant to see. Anyway, the moral
of the stories that I can textChris Brown and be like did you just
scare me? And whoever like hackedme, I hate you, amen.
So because at first I thought Iwas gonna be Oh it was Chris Brown.
No, it wasn't Chris Brown,but it came from a Chris Brown
management. Yeah, and I'm anidiot for believing that in the first place.

(42:05):
And did you think, like,oh my god, it's on,
like I got I think this isbefore the Chris Brown, before y'all record
the record. This is like himtrying to im trying to get it cool,
like another song. I can't wait. I already did one. We
have a song already out, sothat one was already Oh so this is
how long ago? Now with that, I put the Chris Brown song out
a month ago. Probably it's onhis leg his album, like three days

(42:29):
ago, four days ago. Oh, but thank god the info that I
typed in, the iCloud info thatI typed in was wrong. It wasn't
even my iCloud with a different email. So I don't think they got in.
But I think part of me islike what if I once I clicked
the link, they got into myphone. They can see everything because I
changed my passwords. My friends weredying, like they're probably watching you change

(42:50):
your password. They are, Yeah, do you think they're in my phone?
Haven't they done anything? Yet becausethey're waiting. That's what I'm terrified
for. Yeah, they're waiting,especially if he's been three or four days,
they're definitely waiting. They're waiting forthey're waiting for keypads, waiting for
patterns. They're waiting for either automaticlike uh, Apple account stuff all that.
Like I got a guy that doesthat. Can you help me?

(43:13):
Do you have a cybersecurity man?Just write down your past? Okay everything?
Yeah? Yeah, made that theytell you, don't hit the link.
I think that hopefully this was alearning lesson and it's going to prevent
me from doing that in the future. But I pray to God, nobody's
on my phone. I'm about tohire in your phone? Yeah, I
was about to say that. What'sin your phone? Many things? Oh

(43:36):
do you listen to my sexual music? There's things in there that would come
out, I mean, not anythingcrazy. But everybody has stuff on their
phone. No, we don't.Yes, you do what you're gonna do.
Put up a picture on my sonplaying basketball? Oh yeah, I
have nothing crazy. I mean Idon't have crazy things in my phone.
Okay I do, yes, Andwithout going to DP. What's the worst

(44:00):
some of the worst things they canfind in your phone. I mean,
just the obvious that you would assumeany young twenty three flirtatious girl, not
flirtatious nothing with the man. ButI mean it's like, I mean,
you know, no, I don'tyou know. I'm not a girl,

(44:21):
That's true. Oh but do Iyearn to be There's things? Yeah,
But honestly I want to be madbecause I look good in the things that
are in my So sometimes I'm like, Okay, if anything happened, I
hope it's this one. And sothe hacker that's out there, man,
make sure it's the flattering one.Yeah. Please. What about your privacy?
Now? Do you do you feellike you're giving up some of your

(44:43):
privacy? I mean I have abig mouth. Obviously, I'm sitting here
telling you the story and telling youwhat's my phone, so not enough privacy.
But I think I'm naturally a privateperson. Nobody on social media knows
who my real friends are. Theydon't know who I'm dating. They don't
know like the real media on thecountry in the animata, but they know
the stupid things that I do.But that's human nature. I think that's

(45:06):
everybody. I think that's why Idon't have an issue being so honest about
my life and those things, becauseit's like we're all human beings and maybe
it You're just twenty three, yeah, and your twenty fourth is coming up
in March. What do you dofor your birthday this year? I want
to go to Rio. I've neverbeen to Brazil. Oh my lord,
have you been before? Yeah?Is it fun? It's very Yeah.
I went out there for UFC aevent, but yeah, it's fun.

(45:27):
I never went out there for likeparties and clubs and stuff. But I
can see I'm not really even apartier, but I want to. I
want to just dance and be inthe sun and get ten. And you
know, will you still have achance to do that or you're going to
try to work on your birthday too? Well? I had to push.
I think I'm doing south By Southwestthis year. Maybe, so I had
to do the day the week beforemy birthday. I've told my whole team

(45:50):
so many times, I've put mycalendar, do not book me on this
day? But if I have tocancel it again, do you feel like
you're still a hell of a workin progress? Yes? Yes, oh
my god. Yes. People keeplike praising the things that did I did
last year, but I'm so farfrom where I want to be, I
mean, talent wise, performance wise, success wise, like everything. So

(46:15):
I have a long way to go, but I'm enjoying the journey. Yeah,
and with you being twenty three,that God willing, there is so
much ahead of you. Yes,But I think sometimes I feel it about
that a little. I think artistswise, right, because you have artists
blowing up at eighteen seventeen years old. So I think that sometimes as an

(46:37):
artist there's a little bit of noteven insecurity. But am I making it
soon enough? Right? But Ithink you gotta just trust God and it
can't be your Yeah, it's yourtiming too though. What's your relationship with
Sissa? Never mind her in person? She has supported me a lot on
social media. She wrote a songon my recent project. I would like

(47:00):
to get closer with her. Soit's a very work relationship, right,
supportive, but I'm not I wouldn'tsay what we're friends? Right? So
when she did right and co writewith you, it was just separate areas
you? Just y? She writes, you write that actually happened when I
was first signed? Yeah, yeah, like years ago. So the song.

(47:22):
We had it in the song vaultfor like five years and then decided
to sounded good on my recent project, so we brought it back out.
Yeah, she man Sin is havinga hell of a time too, I
know. Yeah. Yeah, that'sone thing too, is like she she's
like how old, like thirty someearly thirties, so it's like and she's
in her prime now. So it'slike, I think that it's different than

(47:43):
it used to be. I feellike at one point that wouldn't have been
the case, but I think thetimes and then two made it. And
not to disrespect anyone else, youknow, but you're making real music and
those are like timeless collections when somebodyand connections. But those are songs where
when you can get somebody to feelwhat you're doing, then you can't rush

(48:06):
that process. Right. Even myalbum, like it's supposed to come out
this year, and I'm just like, I know that's not coming out this
year, you know, like wehave two songs we're right, twenty twenty
four. Yeah, so you thinkthat your album is twenty twenty five.
Okay, now that you say itright like that, it feels wrong.
But my last project was suposed tocome out a year before it did.

(48:28):
So sometimes I think I would ratherput out quality work than rush it and
be regretful when it doesn't do wellbecause I rushed it. You know what
I mean? Are you afraid ofsuccess? No? Are you afraid of
failure? I mean yes, yes, yes, yes? Do you And
when I say this, do youget in your own way? Sometimes?
Oh, I'm Probably the biggest thingthat's get in my way is myself and

(48:53):
my thoughts. I overthink everything,so I think that sometimes that's the thing
that I've definitely struggled with. Butthank god I have a team that catches
it and they're like, Mata,you are crazy. Do you procrastinate?
Yes, but I always get it. I've always been a procrastinator, even
in school. But I always areyou last minute or you'll get it in
the last minute. I always pulledthrough the last second, like, yeah,

(49:13):
I'll get it done. But itcould be something that's a month away
and you want to say, oh, let me do that right now,
so I have three weeks to doYou think you'll go back to school.
My cousin asked me the other day, like, would you ever go to
college? Yeah? Maybe, ifI want to like, maybe want to
retire some sings. Know. Hewas like going for music, and I
was like, for what? Youare in class for music? Like that's

(49:37):
the dumbest thing I've heard. Iwould not go to college for music.
Yeah, to go too, Like, you shut up, stupid. Maybe
one day if I want to learnsomething when I'm retired. But you are,
you are, and sometimes the bestpositions you can be in is learning

(49:57):
hands on, and I live init. I'm working with Pharrell. Why
would I want to go back tocollege for music? Even your teacher,
your instructor to be like, dude, mate, what the doing? Get
out? We don't want you here, so so take your time with that
before I let you out of here. Let me ask my wife real quick.
Anything else you want to know,baby? Yeah? Who is she

(50:19):
excited to work with? Yeah?Okay, let me get it. Who
are you excited to work with?Any collabs or anything like that? So
I don't have to seem like mywife asked the question. We honestly don't
have any collabs on the way forthe project, not yet. We definitely
will, but I want to workwith John Mayor for sure. My favorite
song in the world other than onepost one is Lesson Learned by Alicia Keys

(50:43):
and John Mayer. So I wouldlove to do something like I love I
cried to it like I think Icried to it last night, to be
honest. After my little breakup?How many things? How many times you
think you broke up with your guy? Like ten? But there's been a
few, I mean not really ten. Here's the thing we talk about,
did we kind of do it fora little bit and then we just fall
right back in. But there's beenlike two times we didn't talk for a

(51:06):
few months. We always watched together. I dated somebody else, I had
a whole boyfriend, and then y'allcome back. Yeah, right, and
then you write good material, youknow the swift So sex came from sex
X? Yeah? Yeah, whatare you thinking about when you hear that?
Yeah? Like, who are youthinking about? Give me your phone?

(51:32):
Let me take that out of yourplaylist? Right? Yeah, that's
when I go in the room,like, what are some of the things
that are on your career bucket listwhen it comes to awards or maybe acting.
I definitely want to act. I'ma drama queen in real life,
so I think that i'd be goodat crying the other day, I had

(51:54):
a crime in music video and Ikind of killed it. But I had
to watch Forrest Gump the grave scenethat gets me. Forrest Gump is my
favorite movie. And if I watchedthe grave scene, no matter what,
if you put it on right now, start crying. Wasn't Forrest Gump out
before you were born? And it'sstill a good movie. So that's so

(52:14):
you're literally on the set looking ata monager. I had to watch it
cry. They'd be like go andthen I would put it down and just
sing the song and I had tearsago down my eyes. Yeah, well,
speaking of it, when I gotthat anything for the shot? Did
you get bit by a snake?Oh my god, you guys. Anyway
back to your question, I justabout to ask the same one, but

(52:35):
I was actually wondering, like,if it scarred you, it traumatized me.
It is a whole different scar Butso you had a snake in your
video. Yeah, it wasn't myidea, and I kind of was just
like, whatever about it. Itnever is somebody putting you in danger,
right, but you know it's crazy. I didn't sign any waivers. I
should have sued them after that happened, but it's so long ago whatever,

(52:58):
and I'm not really pressed anymore trauma, just knowing the story. But yeah,
like I was laying there and Icould feel, I could literally sense
it was about to do something.I could see it looking at me,
and in the video you can seeit's literally like iron Me and I kept
telling them like, oh, thisone's not supposed to be that close,
and then it just reached up andme and I grabbed it. It was
instinct. People got so mad.Peter posted me I had death threats in

(53:19):
my way because he well because becauselike snake bit you and out of reaction,
you took it off of you.It was don't use animals as props,
And I get it, like andI think that I agree. I
think I feel a little guilty now, but it was just it was I
don't know, it all happened sofast. But yeah, I do feel

(53:39):
bad for grabbing it too. Ido feel bad, but from your team,
no, But yeah, that wasa moment, hey man, And
you are being successful in the mostcraziest times, like the cancel culture.

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Everybody's right, everybody's sensitive. Iknow, it's I think that's the thing
that makes me overthink everything I door say, because I'm like, could
I could cancel for that? AndI say crazy things, but I don't
say anything that would give me canceled. You do say some crazy stuff though,
yeah, yeah, I'm so scaredfor like five years. Yeah,
this interview with resurfacing, but Idon't think we said anything too crazy and

(54:22):
it used to be worse. CanI hear it? Yeah? Okay,
they'll be like made, Why doyou say that? Anyway? Back to
my bucket list, I want tosay that's real quick. I want to
do rock and Rio one day.That's one of my dreams. I want
to headline it song with John Mayorand Grammy's of course, but that's I
don't know. I'm not too focusedon that, but I feel like it'll

(54:42):
come. And then definitely movies orsomething, but I'm not I don't really
care about the is it egot thing? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I
don't. I'm not like, no, I don't chase awards. I feel
like, but if that ever happens, I will be happy. And Elks
and John just got his easyeah.I know that you're a huge Eli and
John fan, and he used tobabysit you as well, so that's crazy.

(55:06):
It's good I called him and Icongratulated him. Yeah, man,
and just knowing him for years andand and his words not mine, him
being in a posuit way. Hechanged your diapers like he know you.
Oh yes, that's gotta be crazy, man. So when he got the
E got you hit him up andwas like, what do you say?
Is it? Is it? Whatdo you say? Yeah? Now watch

(55:31):
somebody here and watch the viral.John changed my diapers or somebody piece be
like we searched it. She waslying, Yeah, you can't. You
can't do right by social Yeah.But that's kind of why I love making
people mad on Twitter because it's likepeople really just are mad this girl that

(55:53):
I made up some story that Igrew up in this town and I'm a
Jewish, I came from a Jewishrich family, and I'm like, I'm
not even Jewish. Hold on,and my family didn't grow up in this
town, like you're not. Wasthat you on his burner account? And
you can't put all those fires out? So don't even chase. I know

(56:14):
sometimes I do if I don't care. But I realized, like, stop
mating, because I used to getmad and I used to just yellow people
online. But I feel like everyartist kind of has to go through that
phase of like doing that to justrealize it's not what to do, not
worth it. Yeah, really,have you made anyone that you that's in
the business that was like a butthole? Like, man, I wish I
didn't meet that person, and Iwant to ask who it was, But

(56:36):
you've had that experience, yes,for sure. I think the worst thing
is I meet people and then myteam will tell me, oh, when
you first got signed, they wouldthey were talking about you, Like there's
I met a girl the other day. She's in the business. She's a
successful manager. I guess I don'teven know. But when I first got
signed, I met her. Iran into her in Paris and she came
up to me and introduce herself andshe was so sweet and nice and like

(56:59):
a fan. And somebody told mewhen you first got shined signed, she
was like just talking about me.So it's like that's kind of the worst
part. And the thing is teamcoming to tell you neative team to tell
me not to say that. Ithink they just want me to see the
realness of people. I think anotherthing, who was it? I'm not

(57:22):
going to tell you that. Butone thing that I've gone through this is
a big trend in my career.I have a lot of beef with like
older men in the industry. Ithink as a young woman when I was
like seventeen, I'm telling too muchof my business. They're about to yell
at me. You're good at thisanyway. Just like when I first started,

(57:45):
I would just get in fights witholder men about things that I didn't
really know, like when I hadto choose my first bit like lawyer the
Layer that I didn't go with,like cuss me out, and it's like,
I'm seventeen years old, I don'teven know what this stuff really means,
and you're yelling at me. SoI think that that's kind of been
the hardest thing, is just stayingstrong as a young woman and just knowing

(58:05):
that there's a lot of emotions anda lot of crazy men. So I
think that just being able to justshut that off and not get bothered by
it anyway. I don't even knowwhat got me into that question, but
answer, I enjoyed it though,Man, Well, thank you for coming
into the neighborhood. You're crazy.I'm not telling you why not because it

(58:27):
was more than one. Huh.There's a few people artist wise that you
failed the funky vibe from. Giveme like ten seconds to think about it.
I'm not going to tell you aboutNo, I'll tell you. I'm
not going to tell you I don'thave any I don't think I even have
anybody though. Honestly, the artiststhat have the biggest attitude are the ones
that aren't successful, or you cantell they're not as successful as they want

(58:52):
to be. I think that's Ithink they're just angry about their own lives.
You fight no, my brother,You just fight your brother in that
same way. Really, we hadlike an angry household because my dad and
my brother have like they used toget so angry. And I think that
me being like the only little girlin the house, we would always fight.
Let me stop telling stories all daylong. Hey, what does your

(59:15):
brother do for living? You sayhe just wants to be a chef.
He's younger than me, He's stillin Indiana. I'm trying to get him
to come out here so bad.I have so many restaurants that always ask
about him. But I think thatI gotta just kind of force him to
do it. Oh, man,and you're twenty three. How old is
he twenty one? Oh wow,and he's he's already cooking and everything.
He's good too. He makes reallygood food. And it's all weird stuff.

(59:37):
It's not just like we'll bring himout. I'm trying to get him
too, we'll call him okay.Mean, I would love to know if
you have a mount rushmore of Rand B singers, because there's always like,
oh, the top five rappers orwhatever. But got about R and
B, Jazz and Sullivan, yeba Brandy. Who else I think I

(59:57):
need? In scissor, I think, wait that say says already because we
have the singers, but says it'sso cool and like, you know,
that's a good mix. Also,if you do you believe in love languages?
Oh yes, what's your love language? I'm so crazy. I think
quality time and physical touch and actsof service. I don't like gifts because

(01:00:19):
I'm so awkward and I hate openinggifts in front of people because it's like,
eh so not receiving gifts. Andthen my giving love language is acts
of service, physical touch and yeahwise words was Events Staples that said when
people give you gifts, they giveyou gifts that they want something or they
just want to see you open thegift so they can feel satisfied. I

(01:00:42):
think sometimes it's a selfishness about gifts, like I don't need your gifts.
Show me that you'll go walk mydogs for me or something like that.
Do you have dogs? No,I'm just saying if I did, So,
what if somebody gives you a dogand then they don't have to yes,
Like, don't just assume I cantake care of a dog and then

(01:01:04):
leave me with it, and Ihave to. If I can't take care
of I got to get rid ofit on my own. Nobody's done that.
But sometimes I see videos where peoplegive you get rid of it.
I'm not saying get rid of iton my own, but like I have
to deal with Peter's gonna write that. No, I don't know. So
you're not looking for someone to walkyour dogs because you don't have dogs.

(01:01:27):
No, But if I did,I would want a man that if I
needed him to like go to myhouse and grab my dogs and walk my
dogs from me here. Okay,So you just said okay, I can
say somebody that will go out andput like pro paane in my spaceship to
right, Yeah, because I dohave a spaceship. Okay, yeah,
they got some dogs in it.Yes, I heard that. Mate.
Have you been to the Rock NationBrunch? I know you signed to rock

(01:01:49):
Nation. I have been to thebrunch a few times. Any questions I
have, I have a few.You know, I've never been to the
brunch. I don't think, well, I've never been invited to to You've
never been to the brunch. I'venever been to the brunch. And I
remember lam A. She was shecouldn't believe it, and she was like

(01:02:09):
whoa. She said, there wasso many much less famous people than you
and there and I was like,I don't know how to take that either,
but I guess, yeah, whatdo y'all do at the Rock Nation
brunch? First of all, soit takes an hour to get in there
because you have to meet at ashuttle and then you get shuttled to a
place and then get another shuttle.Like it's like, I don't mind doing

(01:02:29):
that, Okay, Okay, Wellafter that all, really you just kind
of drink and eat and walk aroundand talk. So you do eat the
brunch because other people have talked toyou. They said they don't even eat.
I eat. You will never catchme not eating there. Especially they
have like those cheese you know whenthey make the pasta in the giant cheese
thing and it's like melted. It'slike, why would you not want to

(01:02:50):
eat that? So and everybody's there, huh. It is one of those
places where it's like the smallest personeven though except for me, but like
the least known people in the worldare still like some of the most famous
people in the world, you knowwhat I mean. So you kind of
look around like every single person that'sjust somebody, but everybody's kind of just
waiting for Beyonce to get there thewhole time. Really, yeah, Beyonce

(01:03:12):
and Rihanna, they always show uplike at the last second. So I
think a lot of people just kindof wait around that. Did anybody did
you go to last year? Wasanyone asking where's Big Boy? Everybody?
And I was just like, Idon't know, it's so sad. Oh
man, maybe this year is myyear. I think it is. Maybe
they're not having the Bunches year.I don't think though, of course,

(01:03:34):
are you serious? Yeah, Ijust found out yesterday, so it may
be my year. It is youryear. Maybe you having the brunch.
Are they telling me I feel likeRock Nation's gonna kill me? Or they
I don't think they're having the brunchesyear though, or they knew you were
coming here and they said, oh, big boy, bring us a That's

(01:03:55):
like the girl the story we didtoday where the girl didn't invite her big
friends and because she was overweight shecouldn't. She didn't invite her overweight friends.
Yeah, man, so that usthat's me. That's one of those.
Yeah. Do you know I usedto weigh over five hundred pounds?
Really five hundred pounds? Yep?How did you lose it? All?

(01:04:15):
I had gas with white pasts liketwenty years ago, and then now I
just eat right? What even isthat gas? Like the stomach thing where
they kind of remove some of yourstomach and so I did that, and
now it was just like, soyour stomach shrunk and then you did you
eat less or something? Yeah?And I can eat now. I can
eat now, And then I did. Is that a picture here right there

(01:04:36):
and right there? Yeah? Areyou serious? Yeah? Jay Z's in
the middle of you're getting there.I didn't see. Yeah, that's jay
Z in the middle. Yeah.Well, Congress. That's crazy. Is
it just easier? Like what's thebest part? You know what? I
still like, I got gas withwhite pasts twenty years ago. I still

(01:04:56):
made up our walk even today,walking to the restaurant, I walked by
and I look at my reflection offthe glass. I can't. I still
can't believe that I'm not five hundredpounds. Really, and the smallest things
that you probably don't even think about, not that I was like tripping about
it, but when I flew Ihad to have a seatbelt extension. The
trade table never came down in frontof me. I would buy both seats

(01:05:19):
because why am I gonna punish youfor being? Yeah, but not knowing?
Do you know what I noticed towardsthe not the end, but I
started sitting up sleeping a lot,really, you know, And there was
no way at five hundred pounds Icould have still been alive today. Oh
seriously, no way in the world. Like everything would have came, Everything

(01:05:41):
would have came. And that's whythey called me big boy. Because some
people now they'll say why that yep, yeah, and my wife definitely like,
oh that's not what the reason whyto call him big one? Yeah?
She got a constantly worried he weighedfive hundred pounds the other thing,
and she's like he lost weight.I was waiting no more and didn't.

(01:06:04):
Yeah, yeah, definitely not anpearna. How do you feel about like
o zimpick and all these weight lossthings people are doing now, whatever someone
does for them, then, youknow, because I got the most extreme
gastric bypass that you can get,you don't anymore, so, not the
one that I do. They don'teven do that procedure and you have to
be like dire straits for them todo that procedure for you. But I

(01:06:26):
think that you know, for one, I don't know about the ozimpic stuff,
you know sometimes because I've seen alot of products come and then years
later it's like if you took suchand such and this is you know,
you could be part of a classaction lossuit. So I don't know,
but people are, they're next toit. And I don't fuck people like,
oh you need to lose it toNATURALID because that wasn't me either,

(01:06:46):
you know what I'm saying. Sowhatever you do to make yourself healthy or
you know, and do it,do it, you know, as long
as you're not hurting yourself and mything also what my gastr bypass is.
I made sure I read up onit, but then after I realized once
I was living it how much,I didn't know how long did it take

(01:07:10):
you to lose all the weight whenyou're working now or was it just now?
Because I had I had a lotof complications, you know. So
I would say that from five hundredpounds, I was five hundred and eleven
pounds on my surgery date, soI must have been over five fifty because
I lost weight to get the surgery. So I would say I lost probably
the first two hundred pounds, well, I lost it probably in like four

(01:07:34):
days. What yep, the firsttwo hundred pounds I lost on like four
days. And then from there it'sjust maybe he would have had her.
You can't laugh a little bit.It started to come off quickly, twenty
Like even before I left the hospital. I think I was like thirty pounds

(01:07:56):
down and like no no bullets,like four days because I was only in
Georgia for like four days post surgery, So I lost like thirty pounds then,
yeah, and then but it wasunhealthy weight. It was like you
know, my my bones men andeverything. I wasn't holding anything. But
but now I'm good. I'm good. Now you know you ever had any
weight issues? No? Yeah,well take it as a blessing. I

(01:08:19):
mean, can you get the outof here? When you're looking and mirror,
do you see a beautiful girl?I do, but I have,
we all have. Our things wouldchange? Really, do you have any
other challenge? Like everything else youdo we don't know about. So you
do play piano leader? So Iwas a flyer. They tore I like

(01:08:44):
tore my rotator cuff because they droppedme. But it wasn't It was like
very like we were not safe.We were doing college. So is your
rotator cuff? Did it held upsomething? I noticed you slouched to this
side? Oh? Really? Yeah, you're so rude. What No,
No, I'm just saying because likeeven when you when you sing, I

(01:09:05):
can tell like yeah, like you, I can't tell you're serious or not.
No, I'm saying because I havea torn rotator cuff from what fake
fake is working out. So thisone is torn torn and this one is
a little bit not as bad.But I can tell the favorite that have

(01:09:26):
you ever noticed with comedians they'll holdthe mic and look at Dave Chappelle,
look at Joe Rogan, guys thathold the mic their shoulder. That that
Mike's shoulder is up just a littlebit interesting. Yeah, and I know
you keep trying to catch it,but you can't. Like it's Sam,
I'm not Yeah you are. I'mjust playing look at hey man every time

(01:09:50):
now she and I'm just joking.So don't take this out of here with
you know what I'm saying, don'tbe at the house or looking in your
mirror. But you like one ofthose people that can just I know a
few people like you, and youcan just go straight into a lie and
just have people still not lie jokes. Well you're it's a lie to tell
a joke because liars lie jokes.Joke. Okay, so it's a joke.

(01:10:15):
But you're one of those people thatcan. Nobody knows, well,
at least for me at this point, I don't know whether you're telling the
truth or lie or joking whatever.Man, Okay, get out of here
anyway. Yeah, they don't pickup that pie our dog? No,
that was an I know I'm goingto be did they even have a dog,

(01:10:44):
Yeah, we have a dog.But you don't write, but you
get I did get a dog andsend it home to Indiana. But okay,
here, stop talking to you.Right, So you had a dog
and you sent it home to Indianabecause your schedule got busy. Listen,

(01:11:06):
And it was during COVID one day, one night, I was at the
studio. I was depressed. Iwanted dog, so I got one.
Had it for like six months.I lived downtown. She hated it.
At one point I got so busyI could not take care of her anymore.
So I flew home to Indiana withher. Now she lives in the
country with my mom my dad.So she's good. She's happy. I
do not I think she would beso mad and getting out downtown and living

(01:11:28):
a life for like prostitution. Andshe saw it all and yeah, it's
a hard it is, especially fordogs as needles all over the ground,
Like seriously, it's bad. Okay, Now she goes outside. But do
you like dogs? I love dogs? Do what other animals? All animals?
I'm an animal lover. Okay.If a dog in a pie cost

(01:11:50):
had a race, which one doyou think would win? A dog?
And what if a dog and apie cost Just say what now? If
a dog in a pie cost hada race in a pie cost. If
a dog and a pie cast,what's that? What a pie cast?
About eight bucks? Like a joke? What's that? Andre? What's that

(01:12:13):
comedian that does the show where thathe just confuses the guest? Oh wait,
the one that I watched that youwon't watch with me? One?
Yes, I feel like I'm onhis show right now. Don't do that
because then my wife gonna get meshe flies off, the fall from the
ceiling or something. Stop. Okay, So you love dogs? Yes,

(01:12:39):
alrighty? What about horses? Igrew up with a horse horses behind my
house. So if you're driving downthe street and you see a horse to
your right and a dog to yourleft. You drive down the street,
you see a horse to your righta dog to your left, you had

(01:12:59):
to which one? What would youhit first? If you would probably survive?
Right? So, if you sawa horse to your right, how
fast dog to your left? Thisis the real question. How fast am
I going? Let's say you're goinglet's say thirty miles per hour? If
you see a dog to your horseto your just trying to give me canceled
dog to your left? What doyou hit first? I think if I

(01:13:21):
had to hit one, I thinkthe smartest option would be to hit I
hate this right, I'm just askingif I had horse? Is to know
what I'm saying. If there wasa horse to your right, Oh,
I hit none of them because there'snothing in front of me. No,
no, no, I'm saying youhad to. Can you tell me the

(01:13:43):
answer? No, because they don'tknow that. I'm just asking you,
if there is a horse to yourright, dog to your left, which
one would you hit first? Like? You you shwivel. You gotta control
which, dude, so I haveto hit one? Do you like?
What do you hit first? No? He's laughingly thinking he would hit Yeah,

(01:14:04):
what would you hit? For real? If there was a dog,
If there was a horse to yourright, a dog to your left,
I would say, I want totell you, okay, alright, is
this a riddle? Like is therea right answer? Is there is a
right answer? Is there an answerthat's gonna make me feel like an idiot?

(01:14:25):
You guys, I don't know whatthe answer is. I mean if
okay, So I'll ask you,if there's a dog to your left,
horse to your right, what doyou hit first? But why would you
hit one? Why would you ifyou're if there's on the sides of it.
As a human being, I wouldhit the brakes first. Your song.
This is seriously annoying. I've heardthat before. Are you think the

(01:14:49):
horse? Because I was going tohit the horse? Because I was going
to hit the horse because it's biggerand it's not going to die thirty miles
for hours. Jackson called me theR word when you could you know what
I'm saying. Thank you for comingmuch pleasure to thank you all right now

(01:15:11):
in the neighborhood, pleasure made inthe neighborhood Man, thank you playing Big
Boy Neighborhood eighties. You find aBig Boy from Big Boys Neighborhood on iHeartRadio.
There's another in case you missed themoment with us. There's a couple
who went to Las Vegas over theweekend and they are now famous for having

(01:15:32):
sex in their room. Man,when your windows not tinted and you don't
have your blinds closed to your room, what happened? So there was a
Travis Scott concert going down at thisI guess venue. I think it was
an outdoor venue, and you knowyou got the buildings next to it.
So one of the buildings next ithad a room right there with the windows
completely opened, and this couple wason their bed smashing having sex right there

(01:15:55):
for everybody to see. Wow,I trip out to When you go to
like Las Vegas or something and yousee those, you're like, damn,
I wonder if anybody can see end. Yeah, man, you know what
I mean. Sometimes you walk towardsher to open the blinds, linking and
oh yeah, man. I rememberone time I went to the blinds like
that. Yeah yeah, And itwas bad man, somebody. So I
was in jail for two days.And thank you for listening. It is

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