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March 30, 2025 • 29 mins
Happy Sunday! This week's COUPLES THERAPY features Rich and Stacey Berra! They're giving tips and hot takes on what makes relationships work...and not work...!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live across the world right now. This is the
John Jay and rich radio program.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
We're rolling. Okay, Stacy Barra, you have been married to me,
rich Bara for how many? How many months?

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Know how many months? It's actually been twenty four months
or two years?

Speaker 2 (00:21):
As some say, How come when it comes to little
baby children, people say, oh, they are thirty four months,
but when it comes to marriage, you have to say
two years. Why can't we use months for our marriage
as well?

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Well? Actually, Richard, they only use months up until the
one year mark.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
I knew you'd have a hot take. So part of
our segment that we're going to do today is gonna
say I'm of course, part of what we're gonna do
is what I like to call Stacy's hot takes because
I have never had a conversation with you or just
even walking through a parking lot where you don't have
a hot take on something. So let me get a
couple let me introduce you to the audience. So, Stacy,

(01:00):
for those who don't know, I know we've talked about
it on this show before, but you have your me
correct me if I'm wrong. You have your masters in
theology from Dallas seminary.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Correct, Yes, Dallas Theological Seminary.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
And you also have English masters with an emphasis in writing.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
No, that's wrong. I have a well, I have a
master's in education with an emphasis in English, and then
my undergrad is a degree in communication with an emphasis
in journalism slash writing.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yes, your favorite color is periwinkle.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
That is not true.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
What is your favorite color?

Speaker 1 (01:43):
You know, a peachy pink blush.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Your favorite car is a Honda Accord.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
No it's not or your favorite Why are you saying
these things? Do you know what my favorite car is?

Speaker 2 (01:55):
I've just seen you. This is so weird, So break
stuff down. I want you to kind of give me
a little bit of what you noticed watching the Bachelor
finale the other night, where we seem like it feels
like maybe the Bachelor might pick the wrong girl.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Oh my gosh, I do not even know where to start.
Just go okay, I mean, there is just so much
to unpack here. First of all, I just need to
say for the record that even though yes I do
think he picked the wrong girl, the girl he picked,
there is nothing wrong with her. She is sweet, she's lovely,
she's very nice. No offense to her like truly truly,

(02:39):
she's fine. But the thing is the bachelor is thirty
one years old. The other woman, who I will call the.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
First runner up, what's her name? Do we remember?

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Latia?

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Latia?

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yes, Latia.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
She's awesome.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
She is. I mean she is statuesque. She is I
mean she looks like she is six feet tall. She
gives Queen Nefertiti a run for money.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
I mean she is Bible reference for people who don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Well, no, that's more like Egyptian reference. But it's fine.
So she is gorgeous, she's got long, dark hair, she's
super like super model looks. She's well spoken except when
she has a few SIPs of champagne, which we'll get to.
But she is so just thoughtful and nice and she

(03:31):
wants to give him a family and kids and just
loves him. And I mean, that is the wife he
should have gone with.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Okay, so do you are you watching it thinking good
match for him? Are you thinking good wife?

Speaker 1 (03:45):
I'm thinking both. I thought they were the perfect.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Match because I know you watched them and be like, hey,
she's nice, but she's not ready to be a wife yet.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Right, And that's how I felt about the one he
chose she's a perfectly lovely girl, but he needs to
date her for life four years. And I feel like,
if you go on the show and you're being genuine
and you really are looking to get married, then choose
the girl who's ready to get married. And that was
the other one that was Litia.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Well tell me about by the way, that's uh, Nigel,
your dog that has joined us in the studio.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yes, Nigel was doing what I call summersaults, which are
basically tons of rolling over to the point where he
might as well just put his head down and flip
over and do a summersault. But that means he is
extraordinarily happy.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
He's staring me down. I feel like he doesn't trust me.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
He's like, what are you doing with my mom?

Speaker 2 (04:39):
With his human eyes a human dog. Guys, I'm sorry,
go back to what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
No, But I just do want to say for the record,
I think Nigel approves of the couple's therapy anyway, So
back to the bachelor, basically, yes, I think he totally
picked the wrong one. However, I will say there was
some comic relief in the finale when that sweet little Letia,

(05:02):
who does come from a Mormon background, so I'm gonna
assume does not really drink the alcohol very often, had
a few SIPs of champagne and then walks up to
him and he's like, oh, you look beautiful, and she's
like you're beautiful and yeah, and he's like, I'm so

(05:26):
glad to see you and I've got it too, and
it's like that went on for a good three minutes
and I just enjoyed that so much. But then she
got her heart broken.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Shelled until last night you said we're getting engaged.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah, and then he flipped the switch right exactly. And
that's what was so heartbreaking is she really thought it
was her, and she thought it was her for good reason.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
We talk about, or at least you talk about, having
the gift of discernment when it comes to people. So
if you look forward, do you see them getting married
or do you not think they're going to end up
getting married? The bachelor and just pick do you think
it's not going to work?

Speaker 1 (06:07):
I don't think they'll end up getting married. That's not
to say that they might not date for a while,
but I don't think they'll make it all the way
to marriage. I just think she's too young and not
ready interesting.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, okay, hot take.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
That is a hot take.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Okay, So earlier this morning we talked about doing this podcast,
and I'm checking my phone because I've asked listeners to
ask questions that they would like me to ask you.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Ooh, that sounds fun.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
I have a few, um, and some of them are
kind of serious. Actually, oh wow, for Stacy, how did
you decide you wanted to commit to a second marriage
after dealing with the first marriage that did not work
after the aftermath? Why do you decide to marry me?
Is what they're saying.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Well, I mean that the short, easy answer is because
you are you, and I have always, well, at least
since adulthood, I have done this thing where I recognize
in certain people a quality that I call being a

(07:14):
magic person. And maybe we should pause and say that, actually,
my dad was a magician, and so when I say
a magic person, I'm actually not talking about a magician,
because I know what a magician is, and that is
not what I mean. When I say a magic person.
I mean someone who just has an indescribable special quality

(07:39):
and there is just something about their energy and their
presence and the thing that kind of makes them unique
and special. That just qualifies them as this magic person.
And I can't put my finger on what it is,

(07:59):
but I can recognize it and I know it when
I see it.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Do you see it a lot?

Speaker 1 (08:03):
I don't see it a lot? And that is why
when I saw it in you, and when you and
I had the kind of conversations and whether it was
light and fun or deep and probing, which people might
be surprised, you can go very deep, Richard. Yeah, nobody

(08:23):
probably knows that, but you really do. And it's it's
a beautiful thing. And so bottom line, because you are you.
I had to give marriage a second chance because I
wanted so much to be with you, and I'm so
glad I did because I am so incredibly happy and

(08:44):
I hope you are too.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Well. That was sweet.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
You didn't say you were happy, though.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Incredibly people can tell, and they could tell when I wasn't.
Trust me. Oh yeah, I thought I pretended pretty well,
but I did not. Okay from Science Chick thirty three,
who Stacy, what's the secret to actually falling in love
in staying in love?

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Wow? People are asking these love questions? Interesting falling in
love and staying in love? Okay, I think that you
cannot fall in love with your head. You have to
fall in love with your heart. And so if I
may circle back to the bachelor, I'm gonna go ahead

(09:27):
and give the guy. And I watched the whole season,
and I forget his name, but I think it's Matt.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
I know.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
It's like I know the girl's names, but I forget
the guys. I think it's Matt. I'm gonna give him
a pass. If he chose the girl, he did because
he went with his heart. If you choose entirely from
the head. So if he had chosen Letilla because she
did check all the boxes, but his heart just wasn't
in it, then I kind of see why now we

(09:58):
can talk. Why don't think that was the case. But whatever,
you have to fall in love with your heart. You
have to let the heart lead. But then to stay
in love, the head has to enter in because you
have to make a daily decision as the relationship goes on.
And Nigel, by the way, is doing somersaults again, so

(10:20):
he agrees. You have to to make that choice daily
when conflict arises, when difficulties come up, when you don't agree,
when you're faced, even with a tragedy, you have to
make the decision, the decision to stay in love. So

(10:41):
starts with the heart and then continues with the head,
is what I'd say.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
That's a great answer because it leads to another question
from let me see if I can pull this up
right from Johnny on the spot. So with that being said,
what's the biggest fight you two have had?

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Oh my gosh, Well, I mean we've the two biggest
fights we've had are what I would call the scorpion
fight and the jumpsuit Jenny fight. But I'm going to
talk about the scorpion fight because I think that was
our first fight that was like the one that was
just off the charts.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Well, we've had a couple of big ones, but they're
never about anything. They're big fights, but they're not about
big things exactly. They're about the stupidest things.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Like again, the scorpion, which people are going to hear about.
Scorpions are not big things. I mean, they're they're yucky
and gross and if they sting you it might be
a big thing for a moment, but they are not
big things. Okay, so our biggest fight was about a scorpion.
People need to know that Rich gets up very early

(11:45):
in the morning to make it to the radio stations.
So at the end of the week he's usually really tired.
And I also have a lot of plate spinning and projects,
so by the end of the week, I'm really tired.
So sometimes They'renesday or Friday is like a recipe for
disaster if we're not careful to manage our sleep earlier

(12:07):
on in the week. Well, for some reason, we must
not have done a good job that week, because we
entered into a conversation about the fact that there was
a scorpion in the house, and Rich was like, I'm
pretty sure that the reason we have a scorpion is
because you've been ordering quite a few packages from Amazon,

(12:31):
and those scorpions hang on to the packages and they
just get carried right in. And he's in fact doing
it right now. He's grabbing onto a box with his
two little hands, mimicking the scorpion, and I was like, oh,
my gosh, it is not my packages that is that
are the reason that a scorpion is in the house.

(12:53):
It is the fact that you leave our back sliding
door wide open. There were hours at a time, and
that scorpion just walks right in. He just saunters into
the house.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Scorpions don't saunter.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Oh no, I think they saunter, and so they It's
like he has an open invitation just to walk right
in and he's like nope, they're coming on the box
and I'm like, no, they come in because you leave
the door open. And we went round and round.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Boxie comes in sprays for scorpions. They put an impenetrable
level of spray down. So if the scorpion were to
saunter through that scrut that spray, by the time it
gets in the house, it is dying. It's not jumping
around and getting downstairs or upstairs or wherever scorpions go freely.

(13:45):
It was because of boxes delivery boxes.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Well, okay, A, this reminds me very much of the fight,
But b we did not have Moxie at the time,
so I do not think you can rely on that.
Now we have Moxie and it would never happen again.

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Speaker 1 (14:06):
Okay, and preventor of future fights.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
So that was the biggest fight, but normally the big
stuff we get along.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
We get figure one really well.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
We actually come together very well on the big stuff.
The little stuff we will debate for hours and hours
and hours.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yes, because we both strongly do what we call right fighting.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
We never back down from our students.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
We each think that we are right and we passionately
pursue that.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Would it make you feel better if I told people
you were right most of the time?

Speaker 1 (14:32):
But do you really believe that?

Speaker 2 (14:34):
That's not what I asked? Would it make you feel better?

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Well, it will only make me feel better if you
actually believe it. If you just say it, then no,
you have to believe it.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
In hindsight, you're mostly right most of the time. Thank you,
Boody that I was right that one time.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, you were, And remember that one time I even
said you were right and I apologize for being wrong.
You're the best, Thanks Bobe.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Okay, listeners want to know what is it at home
that I do that kind of annoys you that you
don't even talk about.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Well, I feel like I have talked about this, but
the first thing that comes to my mind is your
obsessiveness about doing chores. Like it's like you walk into
the kitchen and you see one fork in the sink,
and you're like, oh my gosh, I must unload the
dishwasher in order to put this one fork into the dishwasher.

(15:25):
And it's like, oh my gosh, it's fine. Just let
the fork lie there. It's it's truly okay for just
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
And then you don't feel like the lone fork with
this little rusty and depeated butter of food on it
is completely taking away the you like pretty things they do.
I would say that beautiful sink that is just tarnished
by the nastiness of gross used food that's starting to
get right up in crusty.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
And okay, And I probably sound terrible because I should
be grateful that my sweet husband and you are so sweet,
does chores. I should be, But it's more like, I
know that you need to relax and decompress and even
take a nap because I know what could transpire if

(16:13):
you don't do that, and so I'm like, please just
let that go and think Rex, yes, you do one
hundred percent. Except when we go on vacation. Then you
like when we go to Sedona, I don't vacation, well,
you don't like to go. But once I get you there,
then you like it. I like work, well, I know,

(16:34):
and I like work too, and that's one of the
reasons we get along. But once we get to the
let's say, to Sedona, which is one of our favorite spots,
or to the beach, which is another favorite spot, you
finally let go when you relax, and then you just
nap like crazy, and it's a beautiful thing and we
don't fight.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Question from native monster, who's in charge between you two?

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Oh, that's a good one, because honestly, I I'm not
gonna say it's me. I don't think it's me. And
remember I'm I'm a girl who believes in biblical roles,
and I do think that the husband and I could
get flack for this, but the husband should be the

(17:19):
spiritual leader of the family, and so I want rich
to be the leader of the household. But but I know,
but yeah, I'm winding up. But I will say that
means he's fifty one and I'm forty nine. Like I

(17:39):
think we're just about equals.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Wait, is this the way you envision it or you
think that's the way.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
I think that's the way it is.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
What am I in charge of?

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Well, you're in charge of see, well nothing, No, you're
in charge of the big things.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
I feel like, what's big? Well, what big decision if
I made?

Speaker 1 (17:59):
You've made been decisions about like financial things.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
That's just like we should spend less on door dash
That's not right, you've made vas not really putting my
foot down. Here's a good idea, well's and then we
still were door dashing tonight. Well, yes, because we had
this podcast.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Well yeah, that's a good reason.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Though.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
I mean, I am okay, I am in charge of
the day to day things, but I do think when
the big, big life things happen, you lead the ship.
I really do feel that. So maybe it's fifty point
two and forty nine point eight and now I'm doing
math and you don't like that, but still it's very close.

(18:40):
But I still want to give you the edge because
I think that's right.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Let me wrap up by giving you a couple of
things that I would like a hot take on. Oh okay, okay,
best Burger threw a drive through.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Oh man, I'm gonna I'm going to surprise peeps. I
think Wendy's.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Best fry through a drive through again.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
I'm gonna surprise peeps. Good old McDonald's French.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Fries, best sit down dinner for under fifty bucks for
a couple.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
M okay, oh gosh, under fifty bucks is what's throwing
me because food right now is so expensive. But if
you're really careful and you go, especially at happy hour,
I'm gonna say Buck and Ryder, especially their happy hour,
you can do it.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Chili's are olive garden, olive garden. I hop for Denny's.
I hop Ooh hot takes.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, well, you didn't even get me going on things
like that. I really today was just thinking about, like,
for example, the Stanley Cup, Like I really thought I
needed to share my thoughts about the Stanley and I'm
so sad I didn't get to so old cup. I'm
just frustrated that people don't see it for what it is,

(19:57):
which is really just a cup that periodically comes out
in different colors.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Okay, well wait, this is a totally different segment I
have for you. Oh that's not a hot take. This
is a I cannot. Oh, I cannot.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
That's not a hot take.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
That's I cannot.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Well, I cannot with the Stanley Okay, other things I cannot.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Oh man, well, no, that's another segment. So I just
thought that my feelings about the Stanley were a hot take,
But apparently you cannot. I cannot.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah, what else can you not with? What do you
see that you cannot when you see it? Oh, give
me a fashion I cannot.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Oh okay, I've got so many when hardware does not match.
For example, if you're unless you're deliberately mixing metals in
a deliberate way. If you mix different like silvers and
not purposefully, that is annoying. If you don't match your

(21:06):
belt to your shoes, that's annoying. If you're too matchy matchie,
that is also annoying. If you think that you can't wear,
for example, brown and black, you actually can, and those
rules are antiquated. You just have to do it in

(21:27):
the right way.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Same for guys and girls. Are you talking mosley?

Speaker 1 (21:30):
For females, it's actually the same for both.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Okay, all those things.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Uh huh.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
So if you're a guy, you cannot wear brown shoes
with a black belt?

Speaker 1 (21:37):
No, you right? Correct? Okay, but you can wear brown
and black together if you do it the right way.
So you could wear a dark charcoal shirt and a
brown belt and brown shoes if it's the right hue
of brown.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
People might not know that you want a medspot. What's
a makeup?

Speaker 1 (21:56):
I cannot a makeup? Oh my gosh, okay, there's well,
there's again so many. I have to take a quick
sip of my diet coke. Sure, go ahead, okay, because
I just have to do a quick run here. I
cannot with the overly done lash extensions where people like

(22:19):
look like they have a tarantula on their eyes. I
cannot with that. That is one. I cannot with super
super dark blush, which if they're you're gonna go super
super dark, then why don't we just do a throwback
and call it rouge like our parents did, because that's
what it looks like. I hate like hot pink lips

(22:43):
or lips that don't look like a color that your
lips naturally could be. No, well, nobody really does that,
but but it's like, I just think a natural look
that's just slightly glammed up is allays in style and
looks better, and then they just the I'm gonna cap

(23:04):
it off with this one. When your face makeup does
not match the rest of your body, like your face
is either too light or too dark, compared to your neck.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
I fully cannot good answer. Okay, so you and a medspa.
You've seen all the trends, you know about all the
facial things, the botox things, the laser things. What is
like the best bang for the buck if I were
to come in and I'm a female and I come
to see you for a face thing, what's the best
Like You're gonna look good right away and it lasts

(23:37):
for a long time for the money?

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Wow? Well, I mean some of that does depend on
what your your desires are. But that's really hard because
different people have different wants when they come through through
the door. But I'm gonna say, using a biostimulator product

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such as radis which is injected into the skin and
will fill some of the areas that you've lost collagen
in and that makes us look older, so it'll boost
a little bit of the fullness that you've lost. But
the great thing about it is that it'll also make

(24:22):
your own body produce more collagen naturally, so you experience
the effects long after you get the immediate effect from
the injection. So I think that one is kind of
like a like you get a two fer, you know,
for that product. So that's the one I'm going to
go with. But if you have like really really bad,

(24:43):
like you know, scrunchy mad lines on your forehead, then
I mean you've got to do botox. So it really
just well, okay, so then I have to with facial
say micro needling. Micro Needling is the best facial treatment
I think that you can do because it's again, it

(25:04):
stimulates your skin to produce collagen and resurface itself so
that you have that smooth, lovely layer that that we
all want and crave and that we lose when we
get older.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Tamy Gainor says, rich your wife is stunning. Ask her
what she does to stay trim, Like what's your food run?
What do you do during the day, or what's your exercise?
What's the secret?

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Oh my gosh, Well, for Tammy, okay, well, some of it,
honestly is just having too many projects at once, and
so I'm like zipping here and zipping there, and then
essentially that gets my cardio in because I'm going here

(25:54):
there and well, no, well I don't forget to eat.
I mean sometimes I do, but that sounds terrible. But
what I do, though, is I'm a huge believer And
this is my biggest piece of advice I can give.
I'm a huge believer in portion control. I just think
that if you can have the willpower to eat not

(26:18):
a full serving of whatever you're given, so you know,
half a burger or a few bites of that cake,
or seven French fries instead of a whole serving, that.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Is my biggest Have you counted out? Like, oh, I've
eaten seven French fries? I have back off? Have you
done that?

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yes? You have?

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yes? Is that why when I say what did you
have for lunch? And You'll say, like, I've had six
bytes of a burger, yes, and I've had three bites
of something else? Yeah, Like because you are counting, I
am yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
And for me, because I have that crazy thing with
numbers that I remember numbers. I don't remember things other things,
but I remember numbers. That just sticks in my head.
And then I try to be very exact when I
talk to people. So that's why I say that. But yes,
that is true. I do have just a few bites

(27:11):
of this, a few bites of that, a few bites
of that, and it satiates and I'm not hungry, and
then I don't go overboard with the eating.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
I think you did a really good job. I thought
you might have even been honestly, I know that you
talk to me a lot, but I thought you might
have been a little shy on the podcast. You are
not shy. You've got this down. Well, the hot takes,
the iconnuts well, I.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Mean, think about it. If you have so many hot
takes and the only person you can share them with
is you, you have now given me a platform platform
to share my hot takes. And I'm so appreciative.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
There's people out there, non manchick browns and blacks with
pink lipstick or they're just like I got to go back,
I gotta go back home and start all over again. Okay,
So give me one more thing. I know I tell
people all the time how brilliant and smart you are.
In fact, Kyle on our show talks about how eloquently
you speak. Give us a really big word that we
can use to impress somebody over the next few days,

(28:08):
like a fancy word that is like your five dollar
word of the day.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Okay, I'm going to go with enigmatic.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Enigmatic, use it in a sentence.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
That's a very enigmatic concept, which means somewhat mysterious and
not able to specifically put your finger on, So.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
It kind of covers the basis of being almost like
a big word that could mean a few different things.
It doesn't really describe anything specifically, but it could be
used in a lot of situations. Yeah, exactly, that's pretty cool. Okay,
anything you want to say in the podcast before we
wrapped this whole thing up, Stacy, No, I.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Think I had so much fun. Like I said, you've
given me a platform.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Would you like to do it again?

Speaker 1 (29:07):
I would love to because my hot takes will never
run out and we barely scratch the surface of what
I cannot. So let's do it again. Richard, you love you.
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