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Speaker 1 (00:00):
John Jay and Rich.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
We are like a whole.

Speaker 3 (00:02):
Vale looking for the truth. You'll find it on Coast
to Coast, AM.

Speaker 4 (00:09):
So you've been watching some of the hearings going on
in Washington, DC. Do you think these legislators really want
to get to the answer or are they doing this
to show face? What do you think's going on?

Speaker 5 (00:19):
I think it's more a case of you have been
lying to us. You aren't elected. You people assumed positions
within the military, within the intelligence departments, and you are
withholding information from us.

Speaker 6 (00:35):
And of course the big question is why what are
they hiding.

Speaker 5 (00:40):
They're hiding the fact that they don't have answers. And again,
I think they have just perpetuated this lie for so
many years that they would lose off face the idea
that you're talking about the biggest story in the last
thousand years, and you have been deceiving the world about this.
That is criminal as far as I'm concerned.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Welcome to Coast to Coast AM. I'm your host, Rich
Para tonight, sitting in for the Great George nor I
want to thank George for inviting me to sit in tonight.
We got a lot of stuff. Here's a little bit
of a menu for you. If you are a fan
of Ancient Aliens. You know our first guest, Mike Barra.
Now we have them on specifically to talk about Kennedy

(02:00):
documents that are that are coming out in the link
between his murder and knowledge of aliens in the Moon
and how that is all connected.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
Well.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
I asked so many questions for Mike because he's a
very thoughtful guy and I've listened to him for years
with George and on Ancient Aliens, and this show in
the spirit of you know what Coast to Coast is
going back to art Bell. You're gonna get a bunch
of nods of all those shows in one tonight. I've
heard many, but I haven't really asked all the questions.

(02:32):
So we're gonna go down the rabbit hole together with Mike,
and then in the second part of the show, this
is going to be great too, because we're talking to
one of the good ones, Linda Salvin, who is a psychic,
but not just any sort of psychic. She's got her
PhD in the metaphysical and we are going to open
the phones for you to talk to her, and then

(02:52):
of course open lines later tonight, and I realized as
we're getting ready for the show that today is the
twenty eighth anniversary of the Phoenix Lights. If you're not
familiar with the Phoenix Lights, it is widely considered to
be one of the most documented mass sightings of a
UFO really in American history. Happened where I am right now.

(03:15):
I'm broadcasting tonight from Phoenix, and it looked like what's
been described is a gigantic, low flying silent craft. In fact,
some people say that it looked like it could have
been like a quarter mile long. I didn't even know
where you would land something like that if it was
one of ours. But sightings all over the place from

(03:38):
Tucson to Phoenix in a matter of minutes. Some people said,
you know, the military said, well, we were putting flares up,
but flares don't travel like that. I kind of wonder
now if we were seeing drone technology twenty eight years ago.
But that is going to bring us into Mike Bara,
and he definitely has some opinions on why the truth

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that Kennedy wanted out never got out, and what the
thinking was behind keeping all this stuff. Whatever is true,
whatever we know, why it coincides with if we know
what we know why it's a societal collapse. I really
don't get that. I feel like that's a pretty extreme stretch.
After all, we don't seem to react overreact to anything,

(04:21):
do it. That was facetious? Well, anyway, so we come back,
take a quick break, and then I'll give us some
time to talk to Mike Barrow here, and then your
calls too, and of course my thanks to Dan on
the board tonight in Gina. The call screena who you
will talk to when you call in tonight. But we
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(04:41):
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Speaker 2 (07:04):
Welcome back to Coast to Coast Am. I am your
host to Rich Barra. Now let me introduce you to
No Relation Mike Barra. He is a New York Best Times,
Best Times, New York Times best selling author Lecture in
TV Personality, whose books have sold over one hundred thousand
copies worldwide. He's made hundreds of TV appearances, including on

(07:25):
Ancient Aliens, and is a contributing writer for the YouTube
channel The y Files, which I check out pretty much
every day too. What a pleasure to have you on, Mike.
Welcome to the show. Nice to meet you.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Thanks, Yeah, it's great to meet another bear. Even though
we don't spell it the same way, but you.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Got Italian roots or is that bearra non Italian Hungarian?
Actually Hungarian and it may.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Have been shortened from something else. But I had a
friend once who traveled to Eastern Europe and said, actually,
bear is not that big in Hungary, but it was
really big in Romania, and apparently I have a fairly
large following in Romania. Have to go there sometime.

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Check that out. You Well, that seems like that's right
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Speaker 1 (08:07):
Why yeah, well why not? Yeah, I haven't done vampires before,
but it's time to time to maybe do a vampire.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
So so I'm a longtime listener of Coast to Coast,
Love Georgie nor loved Art Bell, love those guys, their mentors.
But you need to take me down the rabbit hole
for the first time, because after listening to the show,
and I don't know, honestly, really truly, after COVID the
whole moon thing, either we've gone a million times and
we've got you know, a secret space program, or we've

(08:36):
never gone, and I believe both when I hear them both.
So I want you to take me gingerly down the
rabbit hole, and let's talk about all the things about
the Kennedy connection and all that. So, first of all,
when did you first feel like something was a miss
or connected with what we know about the moon in

(08:59):
Pren't and Kennedy himself.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
When I was watching it on TV?

Speaker 11 (09:05):
You know, I.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Felt that when I was a young boy watching all
these missions, I just felt like there was something wrong.
There were things they weren't telling us. There was you know,
I remember watching the moon landings on television and there
were times when the camera would pan away from the astronauts,
like when it was on they were using a lunar rover,

(09:28):
and you know, they had a remotely controlled camera, and
I'm like, why are we not watching what the astronauts
are doing? And they would say really weird things like, well,
you know, we haven't we haven't really been able to
look around any more than you've seen. And I'm like,
we didn't see anything because the camera, the camera was
looking at everything except what you guys were doing at

(09:49):
the base of the hexagon old pyramid mountain that you're
telling us is a mountain, right, So it was it
was one of those things where I just always had
this sneaking suspicion that things weren't right.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
And then okay, let me let me pause you just
for a second. So when you feel like they're not right,
when are you saying they're not showing us everything on
the moon or are you saying those aren't actually videos
from the moon.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
No, it's that that we went to the Moon, absolutely,
I you know, I'll fight you on that one, and
it's they're not showing us what they're really doing. That's
that's what felt odd to me, that there was stuff
there that they didn't want us to see. And you know,
remember I was in a TV show called Truth Behind
the Moon Landing. We had to I had to play
the crazy conspiracy guy and I think, you know, I

(10:32):
had to make the arguments for the moon landing hoax stuff,
and it just as we went through the show, none
of it added up. That's one of the things that
I did. You know, one of the reasons I did
it was because you know, I knew we went, and
I knew we were going to get to the truth
of it in the end. It was a Science Channel
show from twenty nineteen, so you know, I know we went,

(10:53):
and it's more a question of why did we cover
up what we found there? And what did we cover up? Okay,
I think really, you know, people don't know this, but
Richard Hoagland, well, I understand you're gonna have on my
co author on Dark Mission, understanding, you're gonna have Richard.
Richard's gonna be on with George's week coming up or
very soon. You know, he was there when the rumors

(11:16):
started that they fake the whole thing in a movie
studio in Nevada. And guess who started it? NASA did.
So NASA wants the conspiracies about the moon to be
something dumb that's easily disprovable, I think, as opposed to
people really looking closely at the pictures and looking at
the film and saying that what what where are they?

(11:38):
Where's the astronauts? What are they doing? So that's my
perspective on it.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Okay, So why would NASA, like, bring me back to that.
So if NASA started the rumors, why would they want
to start the rumors instead of just instead of just
covering what they're covering.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Because they needed an In other words, if people started
getting suspicious about I think what was there? Because I
think they discovered there was more ancient alien technology there
than they could even imagine, and I think they figured
stuff is going to slip through the cracks, and I
believe that they were the ones that helped start this
rumor in order to make that the conspiracy theory. So

(12:21):
when people bring up the Moon and conspiracy theories and
conspiracy theorists like me, which I proudly say that I am,
the first thing they go to is, oh, you think
we fake the moon landings. Well, no, that's dumb. I
don't think that at all. I think we went to
the Moon and performed a bunch of secret society Masonic
ceremonies and brought back a whole bunch of technology. That's

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what I think.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
But Okay, want.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
People to ask that question. They wanted people when they
thought about conspiracies about NASA and the Moon to think about, oh,
we fake the whole thing in a movie studio with
an area of fifty one with Stanley Kubrick directing, which
is of course absolutely silly watching.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Okay, I was watching one of your lectures and you
kind of I'm gonna kind of dive into something you
just said. So one of the things you bring up
in your lectures is that when Kennedy gets elected as president,
which you make a pretty big case that that was
no coincidence, that that had been planned out for a
long time, because nothing like that just happens without the

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powers that be pushing it forward. One of the first
things he says is that he's coming after secret societies.
What maybe the first speech he gave, So he's coming
after the Freemasons. But yet the Apollo mission was kind
of wasn't him pushing against the secret society that, well,

(13:42):
I'm gonna do my own thing. But then doesn't the
Apollo logo itself have a lot of secret society nods
to it?

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Oh? Yeah, I mean the the logo is and again,
you know, Richard Hoglan is the guy who discovered this
and really put it all together. It's the them is
called Apollo, which is Greek mythology, but the symbol is
the constellation of Oriyan. And you know, there is some
truth reality to the fact that the original program was

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named Project Ryan, but they when they change it to
Project Apollo, they kept the constellation of Orion. Now, the
constellation of Orion is deeply connected to the ancient Egyptian
stellar religion, and it represented the good god o Cyrus,
who was the you know, overseer of the nether worlds
of the afterlife. And and if you look at when

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they landed on the moon and when they did certain events,
and Oriyan is always at thirty three degrees at nineteen
point five degrees above the landing side or on the horizon.
These are all ancient symbolic you know, positions which supposedly
create good auspices, create good energies that help you succeed

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in your mission. And it became so pervasive that the
NASA did this, especially in the sixties, that you couldn't
ignore it. And so Orian ultimately, when you get down
to it, is a Masonic symbol. It's connected to Osiris.
Osyrus is the god that the Freemasons ultimately worship, as
does you know the Nazi, the Nazis, the SS, they

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actually also worshiped Osiris. And if you look at NASA
what they were made up of, they were made up of,
you know, Freemasons and and a lot of guys from
Germany from World War Two, Nazis from the SS. And
then out in Pasadena at JPL, you had a group
called the Magicians that were sort of associated with Alistair Crowley,

(15:35):
and they also saw Osiris as their their top dog,
their ultimate guy. So this whole Orian Osiris NASA connection
is just so deep and so pervasive that you know,
I just can't ignore it anymore, and I know it's
hard for people to grasp. The hardest thing is to
try to convince people that I'm not crazy when I
talk about this. It was NASA that this crazy doing well.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
I mean, there there's a lot of that. It's not simple.
You can't just say they picked the landing spot because
it had you know, Mason ties, Mason ties. It's like,
there's so much that you got to think about when
you start unveiling this.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Exactly. The thing is you have to pick the landing site, date,
time first, and then you build your launch window back
from that. And the guy who picked all the landing
sites where they had you know, a Ryan's belt at
exactly thirty three degrees right over the landing site on
Hitler's birthday was doctor farruk el Boss who fought who

(16:34):
was a geologist, but whose father was guess what, an
expert in the ancient Egyptian stellar religion. So you have
all these connections that just can't be coincidences. They're all
you know, the whole thing was planned that way.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
You talk a lot about coincidences that just are not coincidences.
And since we're gonna get into Kennedy thing in the
space thing, you kind of mentioned about how are their
film cameras around owned when he was in the military
catching him doing heroic things?

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Well, yeah, that was more. That was more geared towards
George Herbert walker Bush, who has some very deep connections
to UH to Nazi Germany, which are you know that
that's a whole another rabbit hole you want to go,
you want to do a whole show on that. But yeah,
I mean, how did the there happen to be somebody
there with the film camera catching him being rescued after
he was shot down at World War Two? And then

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you look at at Bill Clinton meeting President Kennedy at
the White House, and you know, there was a whole
group of these young fourteen year old boys, boys who
were in this group that went to Washington, d c.
And the only picture that was taken is one of
Bill Clinton. And then you look at Bill Clinton's mom
was a nurse and she was stationed at the same

(17:47):
hospital that JFK was recuperating at after the PT one
O nine incident in Arizona, and then she moves, you know,
and moves to the Hope Arc saw and has Bill
Clinton nine months after she was at the same hospital
as JFK himself. So up and then and then you know, yeah,

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and you kind of look at that and you said,
well that that can't really be a coincidence. And then
you think about, well, why did ken Starr want the
famous blue dress so he could conduct a DNA test
and find out whether Bill Clinton was an illegitimate Kennedy
or an illegitimate Rockefeller. So it just the more the
more you step into the non technical scientific aspects of it,

(18:31):
the weirder the whole thing gets. And it's it's actually
kind of exciting to uncover all this stuff when you
start digging into it.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
So let's say, I'm gonna I'm coming from the place
that you definitely believe there is a deep state and
has been for a long time. So do you think
before Kennedy became president he knew enough about aliens before
he was elected? Or is that one of those things
that once you get into the White House, they hand
you the book of secrets or whatever that.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Well, I think by the time Kennedy got in there
that they had decided within MJ twelve, Majestic twelve, which
is the higher super up organization that really ran the
alien question back in the forties, fifties and sixties, ran
everything to do with aliens. I think that they by
the time Kennedy got there, they had decided they didn't

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really need to bring presidents in on the on this.
And there is a document called the Interplanetary Phenomenon Report
of the IPU Report, and it states frankly in there
that one of the few members of Congress or the
government that knows about Roswell is John F. Kennedy, a

(19:42):
new congressman from Massachusetts. And he knows it because he
knows this guy or that guy. And this is all
in the book, by the way, Ancient Aliens, and jfk
It shows that he did know it and that he
had found out information because he was very close with
James Forrestall. Now, James Forestall was of course the first
American Secretary of Defense, and he was MJ three. He

(20:03):
was the third ranking member of the MJ twelve syndicate organization,
and he was a close family friend of the Kennedys,
and JFK almost certainly knew what Forrestall knew about aliens.
And there's a lot of evidence to suggest Michael, doctor
Michael Sala has been great digging some of this up
that Forestall and Kennedy both felt the same way that

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the American people in the world should be told about
the alien presence. And so since they were on the
same side, Forestall appeared to have been murdered. I mean,
you go through that detail.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
I was just about to ask you about that. Would
that have been a the MJ twelve taking him out?

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yes? Yes, And remember before they assassin while I'm getting
really into the down the rabbit.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Holts, that's okay, that's okay, that's what we're here for.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Before they assassinated him physically, they assassinated him his character
in the press, and you know, there were all these
horrible articles written about him, how he was mentally unstable
and he had all these these emotional problems that he
had to be drugged, and they basically tried to character
assassinate the guy. And then they got that got him
forcibly sent to Bethesda Naval Hospital, where he accidentally fell

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or threw himself from a sixteenth floor window onto the
concrete below, after having strangled himself with his own pajama drawstring. So,
you know, there's a book out there called The Strange
Death of James Forrestall, and it's really really bizarre stuff.
And you know, here's another interesting thing, which is that
President Kennedy made one trip to Arlington National Cemetery during

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his administration. He was only in office for three years,
but he went there in May on Memorial Day, May
of nineteen sixty three, the year that he was killed.
And after he gave his speech, his motorcade drove to
a specific spot in Arlington National Cemetery and he sat
there simon for about forty minutes, looking at one grave,

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and that was the grave of James Forrestall. And I
think that there's a lot of evidence, which I guess
we'll get into as the show goes on, that Kennedy
had decided that he was going to tell people what
he knew about the alien aliens and the alien presence,
and he was going to share it with the Russians.
And I think that's what got what ultimately got him killed.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Oh really, that's actually I haven't heard that connection until
you brought that up. And what do you think the
relationship was between JFK and James Forrestall, Why is that
significant to We're.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
It was one of deep friendship and he was a fan,
I was a family friend. He golfed with Joe Kennedy
Senior on many occasions. And after John F. Kennedy was
injured and then recuperated at the hospital where he apparently
fothered Bill Clinton. You know it's crazy too, but I mean,
you can certainly make a circumstantial case that there's something there, right.

(23:04):
I mean, the fact that Bill's mom was the nurse
at the hospital at JFK recuperated at his pretty wild
and then you know, she suddenly leaves in nine months
later Bill Clinton's born. But anyway, the relationship was very
close because after JFK was discharged because he was disabled

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to the point with his back injury that he couldn't
serve in the military anymore, they discharged him and he
became a newspaper reporter and he was actually quite good
at it. Hired by William Randolph Hurst, who was a
fellow to know today be billionaires but multimillionaire friend of
Joe Kennedy, and he was assigned to cover guests who
James Forrestall as the Secretary of the Navy as he

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traveled around post war Nazi Germany, and on at least
one occasion, and this is really interesting, they were within
half a day's drive of the area in Silesia where
the Nazi bell was tested, where the test ring was.
So I feel like, you know, if that, yeah, if

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that was ancient, if that was alien technology or some
outgrowth of alien technology, he and forrest All certainly could
have gone and seen it then and you know, investigated it.
So I think there's this this really strong connection between
between the two men. By the way, I wanted to
say on my Twitter if I if you don't mind,
it's at Mike bearraw three three three, I'm posting pictures

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that kind of illustrate some of the things we're going
to talk about.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Oh actually yes, and we'll link all that up to
Coast to Coast AM too, and when we come back,
let's talk about what alien stuff might be on the moon,
and we come back on coast to coast.

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in Washington, DC. Do you think these legislators really want
to get to the answer or are they doing this
to show face?

Speaker 2 (25:18):
What do you think's going on?

Speaker 5 (25:19):

Speaker 6 (25:35):
they hiding.

Speaker 5 (25:40):
They're hiding the fact that they don't have answers. And again,
I think they have just perpetuated this lie for so
many years that they would lose off face the idea
that you're talking about the biggest story in the last
thousand years, and you have been deceiving the world about this.
That is criminal as far as I'm concerned.

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Speaker 2 (30:34):
Our guest tonight is Mike bra No relation, but good guy.
I might have a little hungry in me, it might
not all be Italian, and he might have a little
Italian in him too. The conspiracy goes on. I want
to bring Mike up because we're talking about President Kennedy
in his knowledge about aliens before he was elected, and
then the bold statement to go to the moon, almost

(30:54):
as putting his thumbs up to the secret society that
was saying no we can't tell people about aliens. So
if this is all true, Mike, or give me some
semblance that how did we know there was something on
the moon? Who was the first to break that story?

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Well, that's a good question, and I think you know
it's speculation. Let's face let's say face facts speculation. If
there are there are stories of accidents, crashes of UFOs
and places like Aurora, Texas, and there was a there
was a big incident in Italy apparently in the nineteen
thirties under Mussolini's Italy. So it's possible that these crashes

(31:36):
revealed to them. While there's aliens around, they're not from
the Earth. Whatever these people are, whatever these things are,
so they're probably on the Moon. It could be a
simple supposition. It could be that they captured there's captured aliens.
You know, if the Roswell stuff is true, there may
have been a survivor that may have told them, well,
you know, we've been on the Moon for millions of years,

(31:57):
and so they may have known it in the sense
that they were told this stuff was there. Or if
you look at the technology curves, if you look at
the development of transportation technology, which is one of the
things I talk about in the in the book Ancient
Aliens A JFK. It's it should there should have been
like an anti gravity type of breakthrough in nineteen sixty

(32:19):
and instead we just got chemical rockets.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
So I'm talking about with the Germans. That bell that
sits inside, that thing that sits inside that little stonehingi
looking thing looks like it's an anti gravity machine. And
that would have been in the forties or thirties, right
when that was discovered. So where did that technology go?

(32:42):
Or are those some of the saucers that that we've seen.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Yeah, and there are you know, there are people like
Marina Sarah and others out there that they they talk
about the Al Debaron connection, that there's supposedly these aliens
from Al Debaron that we're working with or helping the Nazis.
And Eric von Danikin will tell you that Hermann Oberth,
who was Werner von Braun's mentor and sort of father

(33:09):
figure brilliant rocket physicists, said the reason why Germany had
all this great technology is because we had help from
the people of other worlds. So I think that in
the background there was this widespread knowledge or fairly widespread
knowledge among scientific circles and military intelligence circles that there

(33:29):
were aliens out there and that they'd probably been to
the Moon. Now that means we could have built German
flying saucers and maybe just gone to the Moon and
taking pictures of a whole bunch of stuff. But that's
not I think the implication against that is probably pretty strong,
or the indication against that's pretty strong, because we spent
so much time and energy photographing the Moon, you know, thousands,

(33:54):
tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of photographs, which of
course we needed to do if we're going to have
a public space program. But it's also possible that we
sent all these missions like Lunar Orbiter and ranger and
surveyor to really really get good maps of the Moon,
because you know, we kind of were worried about what
we were going to find there and wanted to know

(34:15):
where to land and where not to land. If you
want to keep this a secret, you know, you want
to land in the middle of nowhere, so you like
Apollo eleven was definitely landed in the middle of nowhere.
And you also, you know, there's this theory about these
these towering glass like structures, crystal structures that that that
Hogeland's talked about that acted as a as a meteor

(34:38):
shield over the lunar surface, and you've got to figure
out how to navigate around that stuff too, which is
you know, maybe one of the reasons why the Apollo
Landers had two radars on them, one side mounted and
one forward about it.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
So you know, so the goal would be to what
to get to the Moon because there's stuff there that
you can bring back in reverse engineer. And whoever has
the first landing on the Moon that can bring the
trinkets the treasure back in reverse engineer it, then you
run the whole show. You've got basically got a galactic

(35:12):
advantage that no other country has.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Yeah, talk about the ultimate high ground.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
Right.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
If you got the technology engineerlinging technology from the Moon
and you're able to bring it back and reverse engineer it,
then you know you really have a military advantage. That's
why I think that when Kennedy started making agreements with
Russia and they it appears that they actually had an
agreement with Khrushchev, Kennedy and Khrushev to go to the

(35:39):
Moon together. The United States and the Soviet Union were
not going to fight each other, erase each other to
the moon. They were going to go in unison and
share what they found. Once Kennedy had reached that agreement
in late nineteen sixty three with Krusehov, that's when they
decided they had to eliminate it. And I believe that's

(36:01):
exactly what they did, and that was the motivation for
the assassination.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Wow, Okay, when we come back, let's talk a little
bit about that. Let's talk about the Tesla connection too.
Let's take a quick break back next with Mike Barra
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Speaker 2 (38:37):
Welcome back to Coast to Coast, Am. I'm your host,
Rich Barat tonight. Our guest is Mike Barra from Ancient Aliens,
among other things, in all of his books, by the way,
in his Twitter and everything is all linked up at
Coast to Coast, Am, Mike. Before we went to break,
we were kind of talking about Kennedy being singled out

(38:57):
or at least targeted now because of his agreement with
Russia to not have a space race, but to go together.
In the deep State did not like that. So is
the deep state we're talking about or hear so much
about today is the same one that was operating back
in the time of Kennedy, same goods.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Absolutely, it's it's now a cancer. That's kind of metastasized
throughout the entire United States government, and uh, you know,
we're performing the surgery right now. I guess doja you
would call it exploratory surgery, trying to find out all
the things they have to you know, all the cells
they have to remove. But it's it's, uh, yeah, it's
exactly the same thing. And I I really think the

(39:37):
murder of President Kennedy was the motivation behind whatever it
is we're going through right now, that that that some
people on the inside realized that that our our entire
government had been taken over by this unelected and unaccountable
elite that needed to be stopped. And it's taken in

(40:00):
us gosh sixty years to get to the point where
I think there's some optimism we're going to be able
to do it. So yeah, I think it's exactly the same.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Well, when you think about what Kennedy knew and what
he was trying to expose, what do you think kind
of got exposed through that that we know about that
we wouldn't have if he didn't like what what kind
of little like I guess trinkets are trails, breadcrumbs did

(40:30):
he leave for us that you can put your finger
and go aha, Well.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
That's that's an interesting question. I would say that that
his again, his President and the Press speech where he said,
and you talked about that earlier. This is in April
of nineteen sixty one and within a month or two
of taking office, where he said, Hey, we are opposed
to secret os and secret societies and secrecy in general,

(40:58):
and we want to do things in the open and
we want transparency. I mean it, basically, that's what he said,
and I need the press to help me do that. Now.
Of course, the press is the opposition. So when when
Elon Musk talks about transparency, he gets exactly the opposite
of response. They don't want transparency. They want to shut
down what he calls transparency. To be fair to people

(41:20):
on different sides of the political aisle here, I think
that speech is a absolutely where he laid down the
law and said I am going to war with you people.
Then we had the Bay of Pigs, where Kennedy clearly said,
you know, the faith famously said I want to I
want to splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and
scatter it to the winds. And that is a that

(41:43):
is a reliable quote at this point. I think most
people say that he did say that. So and then
the fact that he wanted to go to the moon itself,
why was that a national imperative? I mean, we had
some issues. Why did he make it imperative? He made
it an imperative because he knew what was there from
his brief with Forrestall and from his other contacts that

(42:03):
are mentioned in that that IPU report document. And he
knew that when we went there, if we showed people
what we really found, that it would bring us into
a brave, new, brand new world.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Okay, yeah, let's talk about that too, because what you've
done here is I think the two biggest topics ever
that are you know, conspiracies to ever hit coast to
coast am are why Kennedy was assassinated? And did we
go to the moon? And you've tied them both together here.
So now that is this thing I brought up.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
That's what I do. You know, That's what I do.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Okay, but bring me this because this doesn't make any
sense either. I was thinking about this too. It's like
it seems to me that we've had a couple awakenings.
I don't I don't know what it had been during
the Revolutionary War, but that Kennedy assassination definitely woke people
up and made him think, well, maybe not everything is
as it seems. And I think every generation has one
of those, and for me, for my generation, it was

(43:04):
the whole COVID thing. We're like, well, wait a minute,
what they're telling us doesn't necessarily seem to make sense
or add up. And all the people that brought that
up were first labeled crazy, right, And now you know
that there was probably a leak from the Wuhan lab.
And it's the same thing with probably when people were
talking about well he was assassinated by a CIA back then,

(43:28):
I don't know what the talk was, but now if
you say that to pretty much anybody, they would probably go, yeah,
that's probably exactly what happened. That you already kind of
know that kind of stuff. So when it comes to
the UFO thing, the talk of the time, the talk
of the time was you cannot reveal that there are
aliens visiting or that they've been here to the general

(43:51):
public because society will collapse, which sounds like garbage to me.
Why would society collapse. We all know there's something going on,
and people are lying to us. Why does anybody in
power or anybody in the deep state think it'll collapse?
Or is that just another lie?

Speaker 1 (44:07):
No, it's not another lie. It's actually in the Brookings Report,
which again Richard Hoglan my citing my co author from
Darknession History or NASA, and he found this Brookings Report,
which basically was something NASA commissioned immediately upon there when
they were created in nineteen fifty eight. I don't know
what's the right word I'm looking for anyway, I don't know.

(44:27):
But they went through and said, look, if you you're
not probably going to meet et out there, but it's
probable you're going to find artifacts on the Moon, or
on Mars or on Venus. You know, at that time,
we didn't know Venus was the uninhabitable hell that it is.
But uh, and if you do, you should seriously consider

(44:48):
not telling people without a long term preconditioning series of
like social you know, things like makes make TV shows
about aliens, make you know, Star Trek, Lost in Space,
Star Wars. Let's do that because if you tell people,

(45:08):
you may make them nuts. And the people that are
going to have the hardest time accepting this reality will
be the scientists and the engineers and the religious zelots,
they will have the heart right, Well, there were because
there were there were people. There were people like Margaret
Meade that were involved with this study, so well known

(45:30):
anthropologists and very high level academic people. And and the
reason for that is that, you know, engineers and scientists
believe that they're the smartest guys in the room all
the time, right, and it's it's they said, it would
be very depressing to them to discover that, no, there
were other far more advanced, more intelligent people than you

(45:51):
that live other places. And then it would be it
would damage the psyche, and then it can also potentially
bring down society in the sense that people would begin
to get a sense of gloom and doom and they
would say to themselves, well, let's take the face on
Mars as an example, Right, That's something I've studied a
lot too. Or the artifacts on the Moon. I mean,

(46:12):
you look at that and you say, okay, this is
this artifact, it's a monument, but it's in ruins. And
then the next question is, well, why is it in ruins? Well,
you know, Mars wasn't really it's not really a planet.
It was the moon of a much larger planet, a
super earth that exploded and wipe the civilization out. And
then the next question is, well, wait a minute, planets

(46:34):
can explode. Nobody told me that in school. And then
you begin to think, well if what if the Earth explodes?
What if the aliens come and invade us, we can't
do anything to stop it, or what if it's just
an asteroid can just strike the planet then destroy it?
Why should I bother going to work today? So that
was what they were trying to avoid, was that that
severe sort of economic collapse by admitting, you know, anytime

(46:56):
you introduce it.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
So nothing nothing in life means anything. If everything we
know about life has just.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Exactly And remember, you know the I like to say,
I was at this the quantum summ at two point
zero with Milk Carman this weekend, and I told people, look,
if you really get to the bottom line, everything is
either money or aliens. That's if you look at all
political events, it's either about money or aliens, right, And
that sounds a little crazy, But then when you start

(47:23):
to think about it, imagine if you have a you know,
you have a stable environment, and then you introduce aliens
into the body politic. That is the most destabilizing thing
you can do, because you have no idea what the
reverberations are going to be, how that's going to that
wave is going to pass through the the the culture

(47:44):
and society, and what the end is going to be.
And if you cannot predict the outcome, it's inherently destabilizing,
which is inherently bad for the people in power. Remember
that quote from the X Files, right, the well manicured man.
He said, I'm part of an organization that predicts the future,
and we found the best way to predict the future
is to create it. So that's what we've been fighting

(48:07):
for the last sixty years, at least since President Kennedy
was murdered.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
If you take away the sort of outdated video of
the X Files and just to read the script, matches
up a lot with what we've discovered over the last
twenty years.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Right yeah, yeah, absolutely, And.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
You know, as I say here, as I sit here
and say, there's no way that society would collapse like that,
although if you think about what happened with COVID and
how people have come back different that I remember if
somebody saying, like if we shut down this country for months.
It's going to be a dumpster fire for people mentally.

(48:45):
And it absolutely happened that way, right, So maybe there
is something to the fact that you can't just lay
out all this truth at one time on people because
they can't handle it. Maybe there is some truth to that.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Although yeah, and the thing is too rich is remember,
you grew up in a culture, in a society where
there were all kinds of science fiction shows and stuff
about aliens. So you grew up you're younger than me.
I assume you're younger than me. You grew up with
this stuff all around you. Part of this cultural conditioning
that the Brookies Report talked about. I didn't these things
were all brand new when I was a kid. There

(49:19):
were a few bad sci fi movies in the fifties,
but until Star Trek and Lost in Space and The
Time Tunnel and Star Wars and all these things came along,
it was really, really, you are an absolute nut if
you believed in aliens.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Well, that's an interesting point. The first time you see
Star Wars. I was a little kid when that came out,
and you see a long time ago in a galaxy
far far away, and then you see that it's like
all cool futuristic stuff. You're like, oh, okay, I get it.
It's a long time ago, but they're far away, so
they're more advanced than we are, and it starts kind
of like warming up your brain. Same thing with Battlestar Galactica.
For me when I was a little kid, I'm like, oh, okay,

(49:55):
they're from somewhere else, but they're looking for a place
called Earth. I know, Earth, but they find it. It's
gonna be a little different. It's gonna be they're gonna
be the first settlers. And if you remember the way
that that show started, it said, there are people here
that believe that life here started out there.

Speaker 16 (50:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
It's almost like they're preconditioning to you, like, yeah, we
were just planted here. We're just kind of dropped off.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
And then they'll come back in term of Yeah, that's
what we now call panspermia. It's commonly and even discussed
in academic circles now, but back then it was it
was Eric von Dannikin and you know, and ancient astronauts,
and it was it was definitely revolutionary, and you were
a crackpot if you believed in any of that stuff,
not so much anymore. Now it's fairly commonplace for people

(50:41):
to have these kinds of discussions in a serious way,
even around you know, the Thanksgiving dinner table. So there
we are.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Carl Sagan became a UFO debunker. Tell me about that.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
The interesting thing about Carl Sagan. There's a lot of
interesting things about Carl Sagan, but one of the things
is that early in his career he was he was
very into the whole ancient aliens thing. He you know,
had this role where he was putting books out and
he was talking about, well, you know, there could be
aliens nearby. Here's why if you look at the Drake equation,

(51:18):
and maybe they visited, and maybe some of these monuments
are really ancient alien stuff. And he was the first
guy to point out pyramids on Mars. He called them
the pyramids of Elysium. They were tetrahedral pyramids. I'm sure
Richard's going to talk about tetrahedrons when he's on in
a week or so, you know, on Mars. And he
was very into this stuff. And then all of a

(51:38):
sudden that flips. He changes and he becomes the debunker
in chief. He becomes the main guy kind of like
Neil de Grasse Tyson is now although Neil Delicy you
are no Carl Sagan, but you know he flips, and
well what happened that flipped him? He flipped in about
nineteen seventy two and suddenly he's at attacking Eric von Danik,

(52:01):
and very unfairly he's attacked Richard Hoagland, who he was
friends with for ten fifteen years. They were close friends,
and he attacked him. And the reason why is that
he was he was he replaced doctor Donald Menzel on
the MJ twelve Pitty after Menzel died.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Okay, we got to get int the MJ twelve when
we come back, and your calls because I know you
have questions from MIKEE. Raw on the Kennedy and Moon connection,
just crazy stuff. Okay, that's all. When we come back
on Coast to Coast AM, I'm so glad you're here.
As the person who currently occupies your attention, I would
like to thank you for listening to John Jaye rich.

Speaker 13 (52:43):
From the City of Angels. This is Coast to Coast
AM with Rich Bra.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Our guest tonight is Mike bra and you know him
from Ancient Aliens. All his information his Twitter and all
that stuff is all linked up. How to get his
books at Coast to Coast, Ama and Mike, we got
so many calls, But if you just tuned in, Mike
has dropped some what I call plutonium filled conspiracy theories
on us tonight. There's always been ruins on the moon

(53:13):
of alien origin, and he says that Kennedy was threatened
to expose that against the deep State and that is
likely what got him killed. Which I mean, you're combining
all the great coast to coast conspiracies all in one,
which I think is compact and incredible. So I'm kind
of wondering about So if the deep state, let's say
that we're talking about, is in charge of who gets elected,

(53:36):
you know, years and years and decades and decades in advance,
then how does somebody that's gonna buck the system of
the deep state like Kennedy get elected? Or do they
get elected and then change their mind and decide they're
going to go after this thing?

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Yeah? No, I mean I'm not sure that they were
quite in that amount of control at that period of
time back in nineteen sixty and you know, Joe Kennedy
was a powerful man and had a lot of money.
And it's funny because you know, I put this in
a book where you know, he Kennedy barely squeaked through
because of some very questionable you know, speaking of issues

(54:11):
at are current, some very questionable vote counting in Illinois
and Texas, and somebody, somebody said to Joe Kennedy, Wow,
you know, I I sure wish that would have been
that night, would have been over earlier. And he said, well,
I'm not paying for a landslide, so you know, you know,
so there was manipulation here with stuff like that, but
I don't think they had quite the level of control

(54:33):
that they do now. I think now in the sixty
years that this deep state has, like I said, metastasized
into the American government and the media especially. I mean,
that's one of the things I think that's really valuable
that we're finding out is who in the media was
getting paid to push certain narratives, COVID narratives and other
narratives like that. In the last ten twenty years, I

(54:56):
just think that they became much more powerful in terms
of their ability to to influence elections and make sure
that you know, you only had a choice between John
McCain and Barack Obama. You know, Mitt Romney and Barack Obama.
What a terrible choice on both sides, right, So, you
we were the American people were gonna lose no matter
who won those elections. But I do think as you

(55:17):
look through it, I've said, there's only three three guys
in my lifetime that ran for president that really wanted
to change things. And you know, Kennedy and Reagan were
two of them, and I think the guy that's currently
back in the White House is the third one. So
you know, it's just their their power. They were not

(55:38):
able to stop it the election, but they were able
then to try to They tried to thwart Kennedy at
every turn. Kennedy out smarter them on many occasions. But
you know, that's why they I think they had to
resort to violence because they didn't have the level of
political control and media control that they do today. And

(56:00):
and you know, maybe that's why presidents that they object
to haven't been haven't been assassinated all. They've taken their potshots,
that at Trump for sure, But you know, I just
think it's a question of the They had less influence
over events then, and therefore they had to resort to
more dramatic measures. And you know, once once Kennedy had

(56:21):
reached an agreement with Krushchov to go to the moon together,
I think that was that was it. They we got
to get rid of this guy. And it pretty much
says that in a document called the Burn Mammo, which
you know, extensively details their plans for manipulating public events,
and it talks about how the president. First of all,

(56:42):
it says, if the President asked you about aliens, lie
to them.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
If them yeah, yeah, Like we're beyond sharing this with
the president.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
And if he keeps pressing, bring in more of guys
on this committee and we'll all lie to him together.
And and then it says, look, you know, we have
to seriously consider wet weather in Washington, d C. Which
is a sort of a you know, a clever turn
of phrase for what they call wetworks, which is, you know,

(57:14):
killing someone. And it says, look, this guy is inquiring
about our activities, which we cannot allow. And that is
a pretty highly authenticated document by the late doctor Bob Wood,
who was an expert on documents, so and that it
appears that document was actually written by Alan Dulles, who

(57:34):
was still the head of MJ twelve at the time.
So you know, you can make a thread right through
to the twenty seventeen and now hopefully twenty twenty five
Kennedy documents that kind of kind of say the same thing.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Let's take some calls. People are lining up to talk
to you here, Mike. Let's go to the wildcard line.
Cornelius and Alexandria. Louisiana, you were on Coast to coast
a m with Mike Barraw.

Speaker 9 (58:00):
Hey, Rich and Mike. I gotta tell y'all something I
told George. I first broke it with George Norway. I'm
running for a senator against Bill CASTI calling Bill the Hills,
the coward Cassidy. My name is mister Cornelius lost in White.
Junior looked me up on YouTube. Cornelius lost in White
don't want no money. I just want prayers. So Rich

(58:22):
and Mike they called me the God guns of gold Man,
the Bible bullets and beans Man down here in Voodoo Hoodoo.
And you do, Louisiana, I was telling the Lovely Call.
Screener Gina Salvati art Bell interviewed a guy in the
nineties and it was about Dark Skies. So I don't
know if you ever saw that series about the Kennedy

(58:46):
assassination and UFOs and everything that you're you and rich
and and Mike are talking about. Also, there was a
show on NBC called The Event, and I saw The
Invade when I was a young child. I'm sixty four
years old and my dad was a Black Knights templar

(59:07):
and he was also a Black thirty third degree Mason.
He warned me about COVID. He said, if they ever
forced you to take this shot, they're getting ready for
the Mark of the Beast. I've been looking at Elon Musk.
He's been doing a good job, but he wants to
put a chip in everybody's head and hand. I think
in the next five years we're gonna have the Mark

(59:28):
of the Beast. And I call AI the anti Christ Intelligence.
But my question for you, like I said, have you
ever seen the series Dark Sky that was in the
nineties and Art Belt interviewed the guy and he said
he was gonna bring it up to today's standard. But
I don't know how long the show lasts, but it
was called Dark Sky. Thank you, Rich and Mike.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Yeah, Cornelius good luck with your good luck with your
seven campaign. There, you're definitely into the truth, so good
for you. And yeah, I think that was Bryce Sables
show Dark Skies. I watched it. It was basically kind
of a knockoff of The X Files. It wasn't as
good and it wasn't as successful. I think it lasted
a year. It had a lot of things in there

(01:00:11):
about the Kennedy assassination. It was set in the nineteen sixties.
I don't think it got a lot of things accurate.
But then again, there was a lot of stuff we
didn't know in the nineteen nineties that we know now,
connections with certain people and how they were affiliated with
Kennedy and aliens and the whole thing. So yeah, it

(01:00:33):
was a good show, and you know, it just didn't
last very long. I think it lasted twenty some episodes,
but I was disappointed. I was disappointed when it went
away because it had an opportunity to be good. But
kind of when you have The X Files, you didn't
really need Dark Skies.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Gene Roddenberry used to say, if you want to convince
people of the truth, you need to do it through art,
you need to do it through TV. The creator to
Star Trek. So yeah, you think they were warming us
up with a lot of their shows for the truth.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Well, this is part of I believe the Brookings Report.
The Brookings Report, you know mandate when they said, look,
if you're going to tell people about aliens someday, you
got to get the culture ready. So and then I
don't think it's a coincidence that that we then had
Star Trek and Lost in Space and Time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Well, then you might make a case that the deep
state created War of the worlds to freak everybody out back.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
As as a matter of fact, I'm not I don't
remember if that's in the Kennedy book or not. It
might be of the Secret Society's book and Aliens and
the Secret Societies. But they did. They actually commissioned Princeton
University to conduct a study of psychological warfare study and
that's who financed orson Wells Radio broadcast of the War

(01:01:52):
of the World. They wanted to see what would happen
if people really thought aliens were invading, and what happened
was mass panic, and that was a big part. It
was not really explicitly stated in the Brookings Report, but
it was a big part of the overall thinking of
the time, which is that you should really try to
keep this, you know, try not to get let this

(01:02:15):
stuff get out because it will really be frightening to people,
and they panic because they did they did well.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
We got plenty people that want to talk about that
in their theories on Kennedy and the moon landing and
all that combined. When we come back on coast to
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Welcome back to Coast to Coast AM. I'm Rich Baras
sitting in for George Nory tonight, our guest tonight. I'm
thankful to have him on Mike and barap from Ancient Aliens,
and his website is great too if you follow his
YouTube videos. In fact, I was watching about an hour
and a half long presentation you were doing where you
cover a lot of this stuff, and when we get

(01:05:09):
through some questions, I got to ask you about the
original reason I wanted to have you on the show
was to ask you about what is going on in Antarctica.
But we'll get to that in a second. We've got
to get to some of your calls. Let's go to
the wildcard line and let's go to John in Wisconsin. John,
Welcome to Coast to Coast AM. You were on with
NK Beryl.

Speaker 20 (01:05:28):
Hello, Rich, Hello Mike, thank you so much. There's no
question we've been lied to from the Deep State and
the government. Both you, gentlemen, have laid that out very
very well. In my opinion, the genesis of all this
started in nineteen thirty eight. Our country was just coming
out of the Prohibition, still recovering from the Prohibition. We

(01:05:48):
had the World Wars, we had the Depression, we had
an uneasy government, and as Mike just mentioned, the brilliant
radio broadcast by Orson Wills the World of the World
caused complete hysteria. Now keep in mind, back then we
only had the radio and the print media, and correcting
things took a long time. There is an instant correction

(01:06:09):
like there is today. There was massive hysteria. I think
that planted the seed and the government that we just
can't let things get away like we did with the
War of the Worlds, even though it was fiction. Then
you have the Kennedy assassination, RFK being assassinated, Martin Luther King,
the Moon landing. I think what happened, gentlemen, is that

(01:06:32):
our government, who in my opinion, they may be academically smart,
but they have zero common sense, just decided to take
the easy way out, which is a travesty to us
as Americans. So I want to thank both of you
gentlemen for your transparency and helping us understand things. Rich
You're doing a great job, and all the best to
you and your other job. And Mike, keep up the

(01:06:53):
good work. Thank you, gentlemen.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
Thank you. Okay, thoughts on that, Mike, well, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
And you know, I mean that stuff is all true,
and it's all connected, and you know, so much of
what happened in the nineteen thirties had to do with
the international bankruptcy of the United States. And again that's
a whole rabbit hole we can go down. It's completely different,
and it just it's just become this this huge global

(01:07:22):
globalist movement that threatens really all of our freedoms, all
of our individual personal freedoms that we cherish so much
in this country. And it's yeah, it goes, it goes
way back. But that's post mortem, you know. Let's get
the truth out there now, Let's fight the fights we

(01:07:43):
have to fight today and and worry about the history
of how we got here.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
Afterwards, let's go to the east of the Rockies Line
and let's talk to Danny in New Jersey. Danny, welcome
to Coast to Coast, am. You're on with our guests
to Mike.

Speaker 18 (01:07:58):
Barrel, Gentlemen, tonight's show is going to go to the
talk radio hall of fame. Let's begin with the premise
that everything we know about the jfk assassination is false.
I personally believe there was at least two shooters, one
in the front, one in the back, and they never
really back then wanted to solve the case.

Speaker 9 (01:08:20):
And the thing is, I could bring up let's say
nine to.

Speaker 18 (01:08:23):
Eleven, let's bring up COVID, COVID that we know the
comedy is Chinese scented here, but they go after Fauci,
so they don't want to solve that. There's a talk
show host vit Berg Tower of Jelly, Jesse Kelly who
always goes after Fauci. But I try to call him
and tell him, no, he's a front man. He's a
useful idiot. A Chinese communists scented here. They knew the

(01:08:44):
virus was going on. They let their people out who
were sick into Europe, Australia and America, and seven million
people were dead. Now, you often hear people say that, oh,
the shots came from the side of the grass. You know, well,
I look at the tape at the video of as
a brutal film. I don't see any shots from the side,
and think about it. There's a second time. I will
love to say this on the radio. No shots from

(01:09:06):
the side, because if you missed, who do you hit?

Speaker 9 (01:09:09):
You hit the first lady.

Speaker 18 (01:09:10):
Jackie, Oh, that would be unacceptable. In nineteen sixty three,
men did not want their females in combat. They didn't
want them drafted. They didn't want their daughters, their wives,
their grandmothers in combat. So let's face the facts. They
don't want to solve it. Back then, they don't want
to solve the nine to eleven. The sorties of hands
are all over it and COVID. The Chinese they put

(01:09:30):
fauci out there. I call them a kee blarelf and
they go after him. I think the experts are only
experts at getting themselves on TV and the radio. I'll
proll my credentials on the table. I solved the Blthway
sniper case watching TV and just listen instead of facts.
One guy said it was a bunch of college kids.
One guy said it was an ice cream truck. I said,

(01:09:51):
no way, it had to be at least two Islamic shooters.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Hey, Danny, where do you Where do you get your
news that isn't tilted to one side? Where do you
get your information so you can form your own opinion?

Speaker 18 (01:10:03):
All right, first, let me just lighten it up. But
then I'll tell you I always joke around. I get
my information from the National Inquirer, Saturday Night Live and
the Mad magazine.

Speaker 9 (01:10:13):
But I'm just joking.

Speaker 18 (01:10:14):
I try to put together right everything that I feel
is credible. I believe the doctors in Palkland Hospital who
was there and saw Kennedy's wounds, they dealt with kennedy wounds.
Let's remember Jack Ruby, Kennedy and Oswald all died in
the same hospital. If Ruby wanted to be moved out
of there, Darthy Killgellen. They got to release some files.

(01:10:34):
We got to look at her closely. And JFK one
of his Kennedys, Mary Mayers, was murdered about a year later.
I want to look into that and see. I want
to take a close look. Would the mob really send
a guy who's gotten mob connections to take out Oswald?
Did they do that to make it look like Oswald
knew something? Or did he really did know some Because

(01:10:56):
you've got to go back to the verbiage Oswolf goes
like this, He goes, I'm just a patsy. But that's
a well framed line in the forties, fifties, and early sixties,
meaning that I'm just being put here to take the
fall for the guys who really did it. And I
really firmly believe that back then, the biggest people, the
most powerful people, did not want that case. Sob for

(01:11:18):
whatever reasons, involvement, embarrassment, or just let's move on. And
Lyndon Johnson always wanted to be the president. Let's facially
he's get old. Kennedy gets re elected, Johnson will be
sixty and sixty eight, and back then that was considered
old guys. And I love Steve from Manhattan, Big Bird two, Jelly, Jesse,
Kelly always goes after Fauci, but he shouldn't. It's the

(01:11:39):
communist Chinese that scented here.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
How do you answer that question, Mike, he's on your own.

Speaker 9 (01:11:45):
Wow, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
Sure there's a question there. But look, Danny, thank you.
I agree with you on some things. I disagree with
you on some other things. You know, there's all these
One of the things I do deal with in the
book the ancient Aliens. The JFK book is is what
exactly did happen with the assassinate? And you know, you
have all these crazy theories there were eight shooters and
sixteen shots, and you got all these really dumb people

(01:12:08):
putting out really bad videos and DVDs and things that
are you know, making them a lot of money. But
I can only I can say there were four shots,
because we have acoustic evidence. There was four shots. Three
of them came from the six to four window of
the Texas school Book Depository and that was almost certainly
Lee Harvey Oswald. The fatal headshot did come from the

(01:12:30):
grassy knoll. From the angle he was at, he would
not have hit Jackie. It was an easy shot. I
stood right in the spot where there's the Mary Mormon
photograph that shows the badgeman up there. It's a guy
in a Dallas police uniform. We've got Gordon Arnold, who
was a witness who was standing there when the shot
went right past his ear. You have all these other

(01:12:51):
witnesses it said the shot came from the hill, the
grassy knoll. You have the Marie Muchmore film which not
only shows that Kennedy was hit in the front, because
there's a spray of blood in one of the frames before.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
You're telling there's another film besides.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
Oh yes, the Marie much More film and the the
Orville Knicks film and Marie Muchmore film tell you a
lot about what was happening, and it shows clearly that
he was hit from the front because blood is already
coming out of the front of his head before the
bullet is even exited the back. Now it's gruesome to
talk about this, but he was shot from the grassy knoll.
The man that was described is an exact description of

(01:13:30):
Dallas police officer JD. Tippett, who Lee Harvey Oswald murdered
about thirty five minutes after the assassination. So I think
it's pretty clear that Oswald and Tippett were supposed to
meet up. They did. Oswald had orders to kill him,
he killed him. He was the rifleman on the grassy
knoll that and then and then Jack Ruby killed Oswald.

(01:13:50):
So you got you know, Oswald and Tippett did the murder.
Oswald kills Tippet, Ruby kills Oswald, and then Ruby never
really talks it. By the way, did you know what
the reasons? I wrote this book was because there is
an FBI document we're witness or that he saw Dallas
police officer JD. Tippett Lee Harvey Oswald having a meeting

(01:14:13):
seven days before the assassination. Guess where Jack Ruby's nightclub?

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
More of this when we come back on Coast to
Coast AM.

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
No looking for the truth, You'll find it on Coast

(01:14:47):
to Coast AM.

Speaker 4 (01:14:49):
in Washington, d C. Do you think these legislators really
want to get to the answer or are they doing
this to show face?

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
What do you think is going on?

Speaker 5 (01:15:00):

Speaker 6 (01:15:15):
they hiding.

Speaker 5 (01:15:20):
They're hiding the fact that they don't have answers. And
again I think they have just perpetuated this lie for
so many years that they would lose off face the
idea that you're talking about the biggest story in the
last thousand years and you have been deceiving the world
about this. That is criminal as far as I'm concerned.

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It's just the way it is. Some things will never change.
The Deep State going to be deep. We're talking to
Michael Barrow from ancient to Aliens, really dropping some science
on us and one of the reasons I first started
booking them. Okay, so we talk about my day job
all the time. I co host a show with my
friend John Jay. It's called John Jay and Rich and
you can find us on iHeartRadio. But we're a morning show.

(01:21:11):
We're a pop show, have been for twenty plus years now,
but ever since I've started fitting in or sitting in
with with George's crew here at Coast to Coast. My
conspiracy TikTok has gone just insane. In One of the
things I keep seeing is that there is a secret
space program in. What I want to ask Mike about now,

(01:21:31):
and I know you've talked about it, is what is
happening with Antarctica? Why does that keep on showing up
on my TikTok? As if there are like energy secrets,
pyramids buried underneath era a rule that we can't go
into beyond there? What do you know about Antarctica? And
what did did Germans know?

Speaker 16 (01:21:48):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
I know that I know that I should be more
active on TikTok, but I just, I just I can't
force myself to learn another social media at this point.
But it is it is a great place to grow
your you know, grow your your presence as long as
they don't block you, wou ban you. We'll see what
happens in the future with TikTok. But you know, Antarctica
is fascinating place because of all the reasons you just described.

(01:22:12):
There's this ancient fascination, well not ancient, but you know,
old fascination with it. The Germans went there for no
apparent reason in the nineteen thirties and they founded New
schwaben Land, which up until very recently it was still
New Schwabenland on the maps large areas. And you know,
the rumor is that they used U boats and they

(01:22:34):
went down into the entrance into the Inner Earth and
actually found ancient civilizations in there, and it's pretty fascinating stuff.
There's all these other crazy stories. I know, Geno from
the WI Files talks about stories about these creatures that
are called striders, that are like these giant spiders that
will attack people and eat people. And you know, that's

(01:22:56):
why they're so so serious about not letting anybody really
just go to Antarctica, that that you have to have
really a lot of special permissions. There's the story that
buzz Aldrin went there in twenty sixteen and said what
he saw there was the most horrifying thing he'd ever seen,
and he couldn't wait to get away from the place.
And so, you know, there's all these stories. There's the

(01:23:18):
ancient pyramid stuff. You have Lake Vostok, which is this
isolated lake that's been you know, basically under ice for
probably something like thirty million years and god knows what
sort of life forms are down there, you know what,
what could still be living there. We certainly know that

(01:23:38):
life is very resilient, it doesn't just disappear. And for
that matter, what viruses and stuff could could be down there,
bugs and bacteria and viruses that we haven't dealt with
in modern times. So, I mean, it's a place where
you could weaponize stuff if you were if you were
interested in having a stuff flour And you know on

(01:24:01):
the this project Operation High Jump with Admiral Byrd where
he said some really weird things after he got back
from Antarctica, and this whole operation where they went there
and looked kind of like they got their rear ends beat.
Some people say by the German hadabau what the flying
saucers with, you know, highly advanced technology kind of destroyed

(01:24:23):
the American the American attempt uh to take over. And
the reality is, if you look at that operation, you
know it wasn't an exploration, a scientific exploration, It was
an invasion and it failed horribly because they broke it
off and ran away with the tails between their legs.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
So well, do you think the flying saucers now are
ours now and not aliens. The ones that people seem
to be seeing were the tic TACs that maybe it's
just technology that they haven't really unveiled as being from
our country or another country or Antarctica.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
From that, from that, some of them, some of them, Yes,
there are our own secret space program stuff, but there
are aliens here. I've seen. I've had two UFO sidings
in my life, neither one of which I can explain,
not just in terms of technology, but there's an there's
this weird feeling you get and that you're seeing something
that's not supposed to be here. And I can't really

(01:25:17):
describe it, and I can't scientifically tangibly analyze it, but
I can tell you that I think that what I
saw were not of this earth. But yet I do
think very clearly. Other famous cases like STS forty eight
are most likely that video is incredible. In STS eighty
most likely American secret space program technology. Another thing, it's

(01:25:38):
really interesting. You know, we brought up the Nazi bell earlier.
If you look at the hanabout Flying Sasha or this
sort of classic flying saucer shape where you have this
cupola in the middle, if you think about it. The
Nazi bell, given its size, it would fit right in
that disc form perfectly. And you combine that with say

(01:26:00):
in Tea towns and Brown's research on disc shaped objects
and electrified hulls. If you had it's very easy to
see that you could have an anti gravity reactor like
the Nazi bell placed inside of this disc shaped object,
which is what he was experimenting with all the way
back to the nineteen twenties.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
Do you think it moves like a frisbee?

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
Like it it just flies? Yeah, it just takes off
and there's no gravity effect on it at all. And
you know, you start putting his little pieces together into
visuals and it certainly could very well be reality. But
the inspiration for a lot of this work may have
come from other worlds, as harmont Ober said to Eric

(01:26:40):
von Danakin one night. So you know, we have a
lot of we have a lot of mysteries to solve
an Antarctica. We don't quite know what they are, but
I'm hopeful that as we get through this period. You know,
we're in the age of Aquarius now right, we've been
in this occulted age of Pisces. It looks like that's
ended probably on December twenty first, twenty twelve. Yeah, twenty first,

(01:27:02):
twenty twelve. I hate to bring that up again. It ended.
And now we're in this period of apocalypse, which actually
means a lifting of the veil revelation, and I think
we're just gonna get truth, more and more truth about
all these things.

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
You could completely convince me that we're in the middle
of an apocalypse. Okay, so we only have about twenty
minutes with you before we have to move on, and
I know the calls are just flying in here for you,
So let's take a quick break and we'll come back
and we'll roll through your calls for Mike Barrel when
we come back next on Coast to Coast AM.

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Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
Welcome back to Coast to Coast, Am, I'm your host
this evening. My name's rich Bara. Our guest Mike Bara
spelled differently, but you know, Mike's awesome. The stuff, this
alien stuff, in the Kennedy stuff, all of it. All
the secrets He's exposing a bunch of them tonight. Let's
see if we can whip through some of your calls here.
Interested in West of the Rockies, Mark from Roseville, California,

(01:30:14):
says that he has taken some extremely rare UFO photos.
Welcome to the show, Mark, you're on coastand with Mike Barrow.

Speaker 13 (01:30:21):
Yeah, good, inding, Yes I did.

Speaker 18 (01:30:25):
He also mentioned Nikola Tesla in nineteen twenty eight about
the UFO patent.

Speaker 11 (01:30:33):
Does Mike know about that?

Speaker 1 (01:30:37):
Actually, no, I don't know about that. I known' Tesla used.
You know, there were very few radios available, radio stations
or anything in the early nineteen hundreds, and I know
during that time he did try to listen in during
a close opposition of Mars for radio signals, and he
did say he believed he received some. Oh really, Oh yeah, absolutely,

(01:30:58):
that's in ancient aliens on Mars. She'll leave another book.
So he was very fascinated by this stuff. And of course,
you know, a lot of people now know that the
person who took all of his files and examined them
and decided whether they were going to be classified or
declassified was named a theoretical physicist named John Trump, who
happened to be the uncle of the current president. So

(01:31:19):
don't tell me for a second that he didn't sit
his nephew down on his knee and tell them all
about what he found out of those Tesla files.

Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
But you know, doesn't Trump seem to kind of like
not really directly answer any of those alien questions, like
there's a lot of people that are into it, but
I'm not into it. He kind of just handles it
and let's it go, right. He doesn't really address it directly.

Speaker 1 (01:31:39):
He does, but he also he also has admitted things
that no other president's ever admitted. He's admitted that he's
been briefed on UFOs and nobody has done that since
Truman when they had the incursion in Washington, d C.
In the nineteen fifties, and he had to say, yeah,
they're briefing me on all these sightings because it was
crazy stuff. And so there's that. And then, you know,

(01:32:01):
another thing I think is really interesting, which actually connects
to the Kennedy thing, is you know, in twenty seventeen,
we had this all of a sudden, this wave of
media attention on UFOs. We had, you know, we had
the TTSA videos, most of which I think are drones,
but we had those videos. We had Alizondo come out,
we had you know, they were Hey, I had his
own show, They had sixty Minutes doing stories about it.

(01:32:23):
You had the New York Times in the Washington Post,
which is sort of deep state media doing all these
reports about UFOs, and we had the Kennedy documents release,
and and then Kennedy's and then Trump said, look, some
of the Kennedy stuff we can't release yet. We're supposed
to be releasing them now in the near future. But
I thought to myself, why why do we have suddenly

(01:32:44):
all this media attention on aliens and UFOs. And here's
the thing. If my theory is basically correct, that the
revelation of aliens or something had something to do with
the reason President Kennedy was assassinated, because Trump did tell
one person, I can't tell you what's in the files yet,
but it's terrible. It seems to me that the way

(01:33:07):
you would get people used to that revelation when it's
ready to be made would be to start really ramping
up the alien media thing and get people really thinking
about the possibility. So we've got his congressional hearings, and
so that fits exactly with the Brookings Institute's report of
getting people conditioned. So maybe the reason they put everything

(01:33:30):
off for four years with the new Kennedy documents is
because in there there's gonna be some implications that it
had something to do with aliens. Maybe they'll even be
a note in there that there might be MJ twelve
might have been real, and if that's the case, then
they have to get the society prepared. So maybe that's
why we delayed the release of the rest of the

(01:33:52):
Kennedy documents until now. Hey, you know, maybe Rich, maybe
I'm right, Maybe it has something to do with that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
And then finally you could prove that you're not crazy as.

Speaker 1 (01:34:02):
People are, which could be a really really cool thing.

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
Self affirmative. Yeah, sure, yeah, let's go to the first line.
Dean in Huntington Beach, California. Dean brings up an interesting question.
With all the conspiracies, he's wondering, why you think that
the moon landing was real at all?

Speaker 10 (01:34:21):
Dean, go ahead, Yeah, I just find it ironic that, uh,
you know, a show that's built itself on government conspiracies
and cover ups buys the official master and moon landing.

Speaker 1 (01:34:34):
What about that, Mike, Well, Okay, the reason I take
that position is because there is absolutely nothing, no zero
evidence that it was fake. There's no evidence whatsoever. I mean,
every single claim that the conspiracy theorists have ever come
up with is easily debunkable. It simply isn't true. We
had the technology, we had to know how, we had

(01:34:57):
the manufacturing capability. We had the motivation to go, whether
you know, whether it was my motivation, the Kennedy thing,
or whether it was simply the Cold War went over,
the Russians and everything you see on there is I
think exceedingly authentic. There's absolutely nothing in any of it
that indicates there was a problem. And I believe we

(01:35:18):
had to go to the Moon because the real reason
we went was to retrieve this ancient alien technology. So
if that was the driving and I could make that
case that's a whole separate show, then yeah, of course
we went. They just went out of there.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
No, did we retrieve ancient technology from the Moon. Yes,
oh really so.

Speaker 1 (01:35:40):
I've got pictures of some of it. Richard Hoglin has
pictures of some of it. Absolutely absolutely, and that was
you know, the first mission was purely symbolic, Let's land
on the moon, Let's have a Masonic ceremony, got to
create the Moon as a Masonic temple, and the other
missions were all about collecting technology, high tech.

Speaker 2 (01:35:58):
How much how much of the the Freemason Illuminati stuff
do you think is the undercurrent of how things go
the future, the I don't know the stock market all
of that. How much do you think is is all
based on all that that group the ball as they say.

Speaker 1 (01:36:17):
Yeah, the cabal, A lot of it is is significant.
It's out there. But look, there's a war going on.
I know from a friend that there's there's aspects of
the military that are not on board with the current administration,
and there are aspects that are. And there's there is
a war going on for you know, the future of
this nation and implied from that, inherent to that the world.

(01:36:40):
And it's not over yet. I think the good guys
are winning, but it's not over. So we have quite
a ways to go. And and so again as i've
you know, I would love to debate Bartseebrel sometime. But
you know, about the moon landings and the Kubrick thing
is just ridiculous. But you know, look, every time.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
I got that's pretty to get in the culture though
this Stanley Kubrick filmed it. I mean, when we had
a we had Jay Wieder on here and he would say,
I'm not saying we didn't go to the moon. I'm
saying what he would say is the video that you're
seeing is one hundred percent fig And then you've seen
it a million times. You've seen the rocks labeled with letters.

(01:37:20):
You've seen the the background that looked like it was
straight from two thousand and one Space Odyssey. You've seen well,
how do they get the lunar rover on the moon?
How did they get that camera shot? Everybody's perfectly freeing to.

Speaker 1 (01:37:35):
Answer every every single one of those. I can answer
and camera shot more. And Jay doesn't know his rear
end from a hole in the ground when it comes
to that. He's not an engineer. He's just a guy
trying to get attention. And you know, I've known Jay
for fifteen twenty years. We both worked with Hogland, and
we completely split on this issue.

Speaker 2 (01:37:54):
Yeah, I know, he definitely disagrees with Hogland because he
thinks that the the the glass structures that you see
on the Moon are basically from a screen that they
shot against him.

Speaker 1 (01:38:05):
Okay, so again, you know the recent Landers, the landing,
we just had the Blue Ghost Lander and Firefly Landers.
Firefly you can see again the glass stuff reflecting the
same way. So is Jay going to argue that Stanley
Kubrick now is making films? You know, for the Chinese years.

Speaker 2 (01:38:23):
You can see on the firefly videos you can see reflections.

Speaker 1 (01:38:26):
From the Blassrul. You can And they tried to explain it.
They tried to say, well, you know, there's something refracting
the light here, and this is a phenomenon that's been
spotted before on the Apollo missions. And NASA says, oh,
the dust. Somehow static electricity makes the dust fly up
twenty miles into the sky above the moon, which is
complete nonsense. So it's a nonsensical explanation. And you know, look,

(01:38:49):
I don't want to rip on Jay too hard here,
but he does not know what he's talking about. And
by the way, if he wants to debate me on
this show or any other show, let's go at it.
I'd love to put arrest to this. And I actually
helped the Wi Files folks write their episode about Cooper.

Speaker 2 (01:39:06):
It's great, by the way, the Wi Files episode with
amazing there.

Speaker 1 (01:39:10):
Watch his video, watch my video, AJ's video, you know,
and and make your own conclusions. But yeah, his how
much of this is just so much of this is
just that people didn't live through it, and they don't
realize what they're looking at. You know, they don't understand
what they're looking at.

Speaker 2 (01:39:27):
It's true. I can give you that A's video is great.
By the way, one of the I think that's probably
one of their probably most watched episodes, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:39:34):
Yeah, like six point two million views, and I'm like, well,
I co wrote that, you know, to be associated with
two cultural phenomenons now ancient Aliens and the WI Files.
I just I'm really proud of myself for.

Speaker 2 (01:39:47):
As you should be. As you should be. Let's go
to the wildcard line. Let's talk to Robert in Upstate
New York. Robert, Welcome to Coast to Coast AM. You're
on with Mike Barrow.

Speaker 11 (01:39:58):
Good morning, gentlemen.

Speaker 20 (01:40:00):
I happened to have had the privilege of knowing some of.

Speaker 11 (01:40:04):
The people from World War Two personally. Some lived to
be one hundred, ones lived to be one hundred and
two now, and just had I was born on the
fourth of July, and his name was John shot s
h O. T. T. Just had a birthday party for
him last fourth of July, and he went through torture

(01:40:25):
and so forth, but was rescued by MacArthur's going back
to the Philippines and so forth. But that's another story
about the about these space I've also uh had the
privilege of annoying some people from NASA and and have
some connections with admission and so forth. And we had

(01:40:47):
a we had a UFO group of engineers that were
from GE and other corporations that were in a private,
private conferences. But well, well, without going to that. After
World War two, it has been guests here ever read
the book The Politician about.

Speaker 2 (01:41:10):
Sixty seconds to answer here, Mike. Sorry, we're up against
the clock here.

Speaker 1 (01:41:16):
I'm sorry, always a question. I didn't really catch the question.

Speaker 11 (01:41:18):
Well, I know for a fact. I know for there
is some film from World War two through the war
and after the war from nineteen fifty one to well
obviestually from forty five to fifty one, and they and
then they call it wells referred to as the Eisenhower.

Speaker 2 (01:41:39):
Hey, sorry, I got to cut you off here. I'm
sorry about that, John, but we will definitely follow up
on that, the film from World War two about UFOs.
But Mike, I want to thank you for being on
our show for the last couple of hours. You can
find all of Mike's stuff, his books, his podcasts, his
YouTube all linked up at Coast to coast AM broadcasting

(01:42:04):
live across the world right now.

Speaker 1 (01:42:07):
This is the John Jay and Rich radio program.

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