August 23, 2022 • 32 mins
Family is what today's podcast guest stands for. Glen Meakem, Founder and CEO of a brilliant company called FOREVER shares how he was inspired to find a solution to his family's quandary of precious photos, film, and video that was stored haphazardly, inaccessible, and in danger of being lost. (Sound familiar?)
His solution spawned a whole new business venture. FOREVER provides PERMANENT digital storage for all our precious memories and memorabilia so they can be enjoyed by friends and family now - and generations into the future. Intrigued? So was I! That's why I invited him to tell the story. Join us! ~ Delilah
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hey, how is August treating you? It's been long and hot,
hasn't it. Have you taken any vacations? Have you spent
any days by the pool or by the side of
a lake. August, with it sometimes almost unbearable heat, invites
us to slow down, to relax, to take a few moments,
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to check out of the hustle, the bustle, the crazy making,
and soak in everything that makes life wonderful and worth living.
I've spent many an hour watching my kids playing the
big plastic pool we set up every summer. They splash,
they shriek, the giggles come lifting out of the water
and drift across the yard like effervescent bubbles of joy.
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Whether it's your kids or grand kids or the neighbors kids.
I hope you've been witnessed to this type of unfair,
uttered glee this summer. If not taken afternoon and head
to your local park, a child's laughter works like a
powerful infusion of happiness. That's today's medical advice from dr
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to Lilah. A dose of happiness just one kitty park away,
one splash pool away. I've also taken a whole lot
of photos this summer hundreds of photos to the ad
to the tens of thousands of pictures I've taken over
the years. I love my pictures of summer, Shenanigan's first day,
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last day of school, concerts, performances, new babies, birthdays, celebrations,
kids jumping in the pool. I love my pictures of
my farm, the flowers, the critters, the changing seasons, and
I keep all of them in a jumbled mess, in boxes,
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tucked into corners of my closet, up in the attic,
on my phone, on my laptop. There has to be
a better way, and in fact, there is a better way.
I've discovered a service that's going to solve my problems
of too many photos and not enough organization. It's called Forever.
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Forever is an online company that provides permanent storage of
all your digital memories permanent as in Forever. Unlike cloud
services or other photo services, there are no monthly or
yearly subscription fees to pay at Forever, so you don't
have to worry about missing payments and losing access to
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all your digital memories. I know you're intrigued, just as
I was, so I invited CEO and founder of Forever,
a brilliant guy named Glenn meekom out to my farm
today to have lunch in the garden and then give
us the rundown on how this all works. Before we
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Love Someone. Is a fascinating man that I've had the
opportunity to have lunch. I think it to know a
little bit better, and now you're going to get to
know him a little bit better. Glenn Meekom, welcome to
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the Delila Studio to Love Someone today, and uh and
to my farm. Well great, hey, Delia, it's great to
be here with you. You have you have yet to
meet the emos. But did you see them over your
shoulder while you were dining? I did. I saw some
sort of animal like that in the distance and just beautiful.
Delila's farm is amazing and it's an honor to be here.
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Thanks so much for having me. I used to do
a weekend radio show, so I kind of like having
the sound of my ears. You used to do a
weekend radio show where I did, and uh, well it
was it was in Pittsburgh and it was the FM
News Talk one or four point seven and then Katie
Ka because FM News Talk, so it was a serious program.
I talked. I talked politics and economics and history and stuff,
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and it was funny. You know, I never went into
talk radio as much as I love talking and as
much as I love because you have to know stuff
like you have to be educated and informed. I would
much rather be out playing in my garden. I would
much rather be, you know, building volcanoes with my six
year old than like actually being informed. I mean, the
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things I'm passionate about. I know a little bit you do.
I think it's funny. We listen to you on my
member myself, members of my team, we listened to you.
We listened to Delilah, and you give great advice. I've
been I've been listening to you in the last two
weeks a lot, and you give and I've listened for years,
but just recently because we've we're working together, I've been listening.
And you give great advice to people. Thank you. When
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you've made many terrible life choices as I have, I
can say I don't really know what you should do,
but I can tell you what you shouldn't know. You
should not marry somebody just because they're cute and funny.
Cute and funny got me into a lot of trouble. Glenn. Yeah,
but you've been married. So first let's talk about who
you are and Wicker here on this podcast with me
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and love someone today. UM, and then we're gonna go
back to you've been married forever, but you are the
founder of Forever dot com cor. When I had this idea,
was the whole idea was I thought that, you know,
I'm a family guy. I've been married all these years.
I've got five kids, my wife and I and we
have and I love, as I told you at lunch,
I love family history. I love history in general. And
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I have all this stuff video tapes to my grandparents
video tape. But before my father died, I got a
great video tape of him talking about his life and
his experiences and what do you do with all that?
And I and I realized, if it's sitting in a
on a tape or something in a box, no one's
enjoying it. No is experiencing it now, and it's gonna
get lost. So I said, okay, it's got to be
in the cloud. It's gotta be in the Internet cloud.
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But I started reading all the terms of service, so
all these different you know, cloud storage places, and they're
gonna delete it if you stop paying every month, they're
gonna try to get you back for a year, then
they're gonna delete. If it's social media and they're basically
data mining your stuff and then using that information to
sell access to you to advertisers, Okay, that means it's
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you know, it's not really free because they're data mining you.
But um, but even if you're not, if you think
about it, you get old, you get Alzheimer's, you die.
Everybody's gonna die someday. Right, you're no longer valued valuable
to an advertiser. Well if if if the whole economic
model for keeping your stuff is because you're valuable to advertisers,
when you're gone, you're not valuable, So they're gonna delete
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your stuff. And I was reading all the terms of
service to all these different services and realize that this
is not what I need. I want to I want
to place. I want a cloud storage and sharing service
where I know all these photos, all these videos, audio files,
special documents, special precious memories are going to be there,
not just for today and tomorrow, but for generations into
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the future. It didn't exist. So I said, okay, I'm
going to start a company. That's right, I'm an entrepreneur.
I've started a number of companies, and so you started
forever dot com because you told me this at lunch,
and I'm going to bust you on it. Because you
had a video tape of your grandparents that you gave
to family members and they all lost them but one,
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and you said, wait a minute, this is they're gone.
Now you know our grandparents are gone. We need a
better way to store and share these great memories and
these great traditions, traditions. So who was the one that
actually kept the videotape of your grandpa? It was my uncle.
Your uncle kept the video table. Yeah, my brothers asked
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them and they didn't know where they when I shared
this years ago now, but I shared the VHS tape
And people people lose things all the time. And that's
the thing. The people who really care about the family memories,
that would be my sister. My sister is the keeper
of our family memory, right, and your sister Dianna. Right.
So Dianna needs a permanent digital home where she knows
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that just that that if she organizes and keeps all
the family memories in that place, it's gonna be there
and it's never gonna be lost because not every one
of the children, not every one of the grandchildren is
going to really care, but there will be some who
really do. There will always be those family memory keepers
in every generation who want that stuff, who want to
have the photos and want to have the videos. And
how good of my sister is. If I say, do
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you remember that picture blah blah blah, do you remember
that time? She says, yes, I have that. Can I
have that? No, No, you cannot because you will lose it,
she says, which I will. Well, and this is what
and forever solves that problem because now she can make
she can be the keeper, and she can share the
digital file with you, and you can lose the digital
file all you want. She's still got the core her
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digital home intact, it will never get lost. So back
to your relationship, because you said you've been listening to
my show and to my advice, and clearly you don't
need my advice because you've managed to stay married for
more than three decades. Yeah. Well, Um, I'm lucky. I
I've I've met a wonderful woman. Um, we had both
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had our you know. One of my favorite, um, one
of my favorite country songs is that song and you're
the you're the music expert, not me, but God bless
this broken road, broken road that led me straight to you.
And I think that love that song. I love that
song because you know, and this is the thing. Everyone's
got a broken road. Oh some of us have really
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broken roads. Some of us took the off road ramp.
You know. I've never been one to stay on a freeway.
I don't want to stay on a freeway. I want
to take the back road. I want to take the
off road. I want to go on the road last travel.
But that's oftentimes a really broken road. Yeah, yeah, it's good,
it's fun. Me. I think it was um. I forget
what famous poet wrote about that. You know, there was
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that they were on the road and there was a
fork in the road and they took the road less
travel than that made all the difference was that. I
think it was Robert Frost, But I think about that recently.
I was driving it was COVID. I was driving from
my home I live outside Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I was driving
on the highway and there was nobody in the highway.
It was just completely empty because I was like the
only one in the city. Going to going to work,
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and of course the safest place to be was it
the office because no one was there. But I'm there
and I'm driving, and I'm thinking to myself, well, you
know the nice thing about going And I've gone my
own way too. I'm different from you. Maybe I haven't
um had as many um obvious stumbles, but um, but
everybody has their stumbles. And but I've definitely gone my
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own way. I don't I don't copy anybody else. And
the great thing about going your own way and choosing
your own road is you don't spend much time in traffic.
And I noticed that about here. You know, here at
your farm, there's not a lot of traffic here, no traffic,
my traff I laughed, because people talk about the me
that commute home was miserable, and I always laugh. Say,
but you know, if you want to make, if people
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want to make a find real meaning in life. And
of course you know, you and I are both churchgoers,
and um, you know there's real meaning and believing in
God and trying to find your purpose of God and
having faith. But in terms of your professional activities or
your life making a living, it really helps to go
your own way. It helps to really say what what
do I want to do? What do I love to do?
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And if you can find a way to earn a
living doing what you love to do, life is just
so much better and you make such a bigger contribution,
so much better. I call it the sweet spot. You
know where you find that spot where your great passion.
For me, it's connecting, it's connecting. My great passion. I
love to connect people. I love to introduce people. I
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love to play matchmaker and introduce people that fall in love.
I love connecting people. So when I took that passion
and married it with the world's great need, which is
people are lonely at night. You know, radio reaches different
people at different times for different reasons. You know, if
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you're listening in morning drive, you want to know where
the traffic mess is, unless you're taking a back road
like you and I do. But people, you know, want
to know what happened in the news, or they want
to know where the traffic problems are, and they want
to be entertained. But at night, people want to slow
down and they want to process the day, and a
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lot of people are desperately lonely. Especially it's so Funny,
people in big cities are the loneliest people I've ever
talked to. The bigger the city, the lonelier the soul.
And so when I can take my passion, which is connecting,
and share it on the radio to meet that need
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of reminding people that they have great worth and great value,
then it works. Your passion is being an entrepreneur, but
your real passion, you know, out outside talking over lunch,
is your family. Family. Every two seconds, who would come
back to your son, Matthew, every you know, or your
wife or this or a ski trip or so you
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took that passion, yeah, and and and figured out that
there's a need families have. And if as I told you,
and I think a lot of entrepreneurs do this, they
see a need that they identify themselves. It's a need
in their own life. And then you say, well, gee,
do other people have this need to when you do
a little research and realize yeah, a lot of people
have this need and that's a business opportunity. And that's
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that's a great thing about the free market, right My
first company was called free Markets, And the great thing
about that economic freedom is, hey, I have the freedom
to go start a business and meet a need and
hopefully I can create a lot of jobs and create
a lot of value and create a great service for people.
But it's it's it's creating that UM, it's it's helping
society by meeting a need people have. And in our
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case with Forever dot Com, it's how many how many
people do you have that that are now being able
to support themselves or their families because they work with you.
Seventy five full time employees at Forever and UM we
also have twenty seven hundred UM affiliate salespeople, so people
who earn a commission as being a Forever ambassador. And
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these are the people that I need, because the ambassador
actually comes and hand holds you through the process of
collating and putting together the videotapes the VCRs. Absolutely, and yeah,
there are there are we have ambassadors. So we have
some in Australia, some in New Zealand, some in England,
but mostly in the US, and quite a few in Canada.
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And so yeah, there are people in pretty much every
community out there, every major metro certainly who can come
and help and uh, and many of them are organizers,
will help you organize your stuff and get it digitized
with you know, with Forever, because we digitize everybody's old
stuff and we also VCRs. You can digitize this. We
can dig ties anything, old family movies, my sister, I know,
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I know she's hoarding themselves, movies, everything. We can digitize everything.
And then of course, you know, you create your photo books,
you create holiday cards. You don't need to go when
people are going to this service for their holiday cards,
their Christmas cards, and they're going over here to print
a photo book, and then they've got stuff in storage
over here, and then they've uploaded stuff over there, and
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they've got a bunch stuff on their phone, and then
they got stuff at home and boxes. That is the mess,
that's the photo or the memory mess most people have.
And my life, that's my life. It's everywhere, it's everywhere,
and it's nowhere, like I don't have a spot where
everything is. And that's and it's a process, right, it's
it's it's not like anybody's going to click their fingers
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and all of a sudden they have all their memories organized.
But what people really need what I identified as a
problem ten years ago, and the solution is people really
need a permanent digital home a place where they can
over the months, in years, with the help of an
ambassador or on their own, they can you know, sink
their phone and get all their photos and videos that
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are new. You saw how many are on my phone?
How many? Isn't that insane? We need to get that
all on your new forever account. Isn't that insane? And
they're not really organized to They're probably just all a huge,
massive photo role. Yeah. So I do have a lot
of albums because you know, I put pictures of you know,
baby Paul in this one, and Little Delilah this one,
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and goats. I have just an album of goats, just goats. Yeah,
that's good. Goats are important in my life. They're very important.
Why ask me, why what do I do with my goats?
What do you do with your Absolutely nothing but love
on them. Sometimes we have milk goats. I was gonna say,
no goats milk. I love goats, making goats cheese and
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lavender soap out of goat's milk. But right now I
don't even have a goat in milk, so we're not
milking any goats right now. So No, they're just adorable
and I just loved them. One thing I've learned in life,
and I've been around long enough to have learned a
few things, is what makes life so rich in the
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world so rich, is that everybody is different, and everybody
has different interests. And when you get into the detail
of anything, it's like, I had no idea you could
make lavender soap out of goat's milk. There's just a
lot of smart people working really hard and making a
contribution and and and worrying about all different kinds of things.
And that's what makes society go around. And your part
right now is helping. Especially. It's got to be like moms. Yes, yeah,
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we we always say it's something because dads have one
picture in their wallet. Right, it's moms and grandma's are
are primary, that's right. Our primary clients are mothers and grandmothers.
Um not a lot of teenagers. Because we we find
once once a woman's had that baby, now she's thinking
about twenty years, thirty years, forty years ahead of her
before that. She's not thinking so long term. But once, no, no,
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not even once she has the baby. It's once they
start school and and they have the kindergarten graduation and
they have their first recital, and they learned to play
the little recorder, and then they learned to play the horn,
or they go into choir. All of a sudden, you've
got pictures and videos and and you need something to
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do with them, right, And you also know as a mom,
as a parent, you know, because we have a few
good we have a lot of great moments. We have,
you know, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of fabulous women.
We have a few good men. We always kid about
that that, you know, the old Marine Corps tagline, A
few good We definitely have a few good men at
Forever who really care about the family memories too. But yeah,
you know, there's an expectation now that hey, that rehearsal
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dinner party is going to be coming up in twenty
five years, and you're going to need the baby pictures.
Where all the baby pictures go, where all those videos go?
Where are we gonna get all that? You know? Where
do you keep all that stuff for my sister? Isn't
that horrible? How I just I naturally a zoom that
Anna is just going to handle all that. She's always
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been the one to handle not just the family memories,
but the family business. You know, the family get together as,
the family trips, the family stuff. She's like always been
even before mom and Dad passed. They were really young
when they died, but even before they passed, somehow she
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stepped into that role either she decided she wanted to
or by default that that she is the keeper of
our family traditions, our family stories. Yeah, that's important, and
that's I would say that I have this I have
this chart where you have some people are really big
memory keepers, like Deanna, and they're the ones who really
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really need to have that permanent digital home at forever
dot com and organize all the family memories and keep it.
But then you have other people who are the satellite people.
They need to be able to have an account to,
they need to be able to share and see, but
maybe they're not as in to the really being the
big organizer. But we we want to provide that permanent
digital home for that big organizer person and all of
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her family around her, and that's that's what we do.
So back to your story, is in your family your
wife the keeper of all this or have you always?
I would say Diane and I my wife is Diane.
We both how many years how many years together. God
were this summer? Thirty three years we've been married. Good? Yeah,
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we've kept it together. It's a it's a it's a
work in process, you know, it's not I think keep
having a successful long marriage is about UM marrying well,
you know, you gotta find somebody who's compatible and who
you really love, and but it's also a question of
UM really loving each other, respecting each other, and listening.
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That's one thing I've learned to do. I mean, there
were I think every marriage has its really tough moments,
and a lot of marriages blow apart when those tough
moments come. But um, I think I gotten a lot
better at listening than I used to be. And that's
been one thing that's been important in keeping our marriage together.
Is that because you've just naturally evolved into this better listener?
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Or did Diane say you never listened to me and
I am so sick and tired of this? Like did
she actually lay it out there or did you just
come to a realization? Oh no, I think that, Um.
One of the keys is communications. So no, we one
thing about our marriage is we we communicate. That means
sometimes we fight and sometimes you know, we we we
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we can weather all the time. You need to be
able to fight with your your spouse or your significant
another so long as you fight kindly. When you have
a disagreement or a problem that arises and you become mean,
mean spirited or say mean spirited things, you just you
just destroyed the fabric of your your marriage. Agree with
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your union. But if you can disagree kindly, like still
respect the other person, but veheimately disagree. Um, that's that's
how you work through things. I agree with you, And
I think that where so many relationships go off track
is that people just can't talk and can't be honest
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with each other. And you're totally right. I always this
is the way I like to run a company too,
Is you think about it, It's the same in the marriage,
same in apparent child relationship, same in a company relationship
where you gotta be honest if you're not gotta be honest,
and you gotta respect one another. And I call it,
you know, it's like honesty and then graciousness. If you
can be honest with each other and gracious with each other,
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and by the way, that takes this thing called courage.
I really think in our society today We don't talk
enough about courage that it it takes courage to actually
speak the hard truths and be honest. It takes courage
to confront your own past, be honest with yourself. And
that's the way it is in life. In marriage, if
you can actually speak the truth, have the courage to
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speak the truth, and then speak it in a great
as you're saying, in a gracious way, then you can
have a conversation and and respect each other and work
through whatever the issues are and keep a marriage together.
If if you can't speak the truth and you're not
gracious to each other, it's gonna blow apart. Glenn and
I could chat for hours and hours about our pictures,
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your accommodations. It's funny. So I served in the First
Call four. I used to had a military scholarship in college,
and I was an officer in the army. And I
went and served, and I was a reserve reserve officer,
So I've been on active duty after college. Then I
was in the reserves, working normal job and met my wife,
I got married. Um I was, I was in graduate
school and then I volunteered went back on active duty
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to serve in the First Call four. This is and
I was a combat engineer officer. I served was over
there for six months. I came back. Well, my wife,
we've been only married about a year year and a
half when I went, and I had no idea going
into this. You know, I thought I was the one
who was serving, right. I had no idea how um,
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how much the spouse or the mother or father or
brother and sister who are left behind, how much they're
serving too. I mean, it's really something. It's a really
it's a huge burden. And yeah, because it's not like
you're out of sight, out of mind. They're worrying, praying,
trying to figure out where you are, what's going on?
Are you safe, are you fed? Are you too hot?
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You know, exactly exactly. So she Diane was very supportive
of me doing this volunteering and serving, and she's very
patriotic as em I, and she was very supportive. But
you know, then I'm gone for all this time and
I got back and it was wonderful coming back, oh
or you know. But but also, you know, when you've
been gone a long time, it's like it's like a
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finger and a bucketful of water. You know, you pull
the finger out. You know, it's kind of like people
learned to kind of live without you, and then all
a sudden you're back in and it's it's very stressful.
So we went and did some counseling. So We've been
married thirty three years, and we've done counseling at various
points in our marriage, and this was the first time.
And we went and uh, and I remember we sat
down for the first time with this counselor and and
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he looked at me and said, well, why are we here?
And I said, well, you know, Diane's been very upset
and this and that and the other thing. And and
of course he physically moved, because the three of us
were sitting kind of, you know, like a triangle, he
physically moved his body, shifted away from Diane, looked straight
at me and said, Glenn, let's talk about you. So
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he wanted went right for the heart of the matter, right,
And I think that that, um, you know, when this
gets back to what keeps relationships together, what keeps family together,
is when we when we are aware of ourselves. I think,
when if you're blaming other people for the problems, maybe
you're the problem. It's it's such a it's such a
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pleasure to talk with you. It's a real honored to
be here at your farm. And so you've got five kids,
how many grandkids? We have one on the way, one
on the way. So now Forever dot com is really
gonna kick in because every picture Grandma takes of the baby,
when the baby gets here, her phone is going to
have as many pictures on it as mine does, just
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of one granding yeah and well and then of course,
but they'll all be in her Forever account. So it's
all backed up and saved, triple backed up and secured,
and it won't get lost and it won't get you know,
won't get dropped in. It's amazing how many people's phones,
uh get lost because they dropped them like they're at
a bathroom, and then they're confused about maybe they have
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some kind of cloud storage back up, but they don't
even understand what it is and it's not permanent. And
then it's just so we we are really into solving
that problem and it's good. So forever dot com that's
all they have to know. If people want to get
more information on what I do, yeah, just go to
forever dot com. Just the word we own it. We
I started. We when we started the company ten years ago,
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we paid for that domain and we've owned it ever since.
We are to have the brand name Forever, and it's
all about keeping those precious precious family memories, the videos
and the photos, and the documents and the audio files.
Some audio files sometimes it's the last message someone left
before they died, that that that message is so important
to people. You can save all of that in your
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permanent digital hemet Forever dot com and if you want
more information to go to Forever dot com. Lynn. Thank you,
thank you for spending time with us today, and thank
you for being so delightful. God bless you. Thank you, Delia.
Permanent digital storage for all your precious memories, share able
for generations to come. That's what Forever offers you when
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you buy storage space on their platform. Create your library
with all the photos and scanned documents you want to
keep safe, then sort to your hearts content, making albums
that you can share with family, albums you can share
with friends, making photo books for each one of your
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grandkids so they can have access to great Grandma EULA's
photographs or her recipe for fried peach pies. Forever even
has ambassadors scattered all across the country, even in Canada,
and they'll match you up with an ambassador to help
you with the process, as well as additional services like
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photo negative and film scanning and digitizing to get all
those dusty old movies, old videos, old slides out of
boxes and being looked at once again. And then think
of the possibilities framable prints, memory books, calendars, greeting cards. Yep,
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Forever does that too. See why I'm so excited about this.
I've welcomed Forever into my world, and I'm sure I'll
have much more to say about them in the coming
months as I begin to build my digital library. If
you're curious, visit them at Forever dot com. Glenn and
his wonderful ambassadors I met about three d and fifty
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of them are waiting to welcome you aboard. August is
coming to a close soon, back to school, cooler weather,
falling leaves, and the apple harvest approaches, a whole new
season to be excited about, and with many, many, many
picture taking opportunities that lie ahead. Make the most of it,
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and I'll be right here cheering you on with every
time you say say cheese. Join me nightly on the air,
daily on my short form podcast, Hey it's Delilah, And
in another two weeks be back here on Love Someone,
when I'll have another fascinating guest to sit down with.
I love spending time with you, and do me a
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favor in your busy, busy summer schedule, slow day, and
love someone to
Hey, how is August treating you? It's been long and hot,
hasn't it. Have you taken any vacations? Have you spent
any days by the pool or by the side of
a lake. August, with it sometimes almost unbearable heat, invites
us to slow down, to relax, to take a few moments,
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to check out of the hustle, the bustle, the crazy making,
and soak in everything that makes life wonderful and worth living.
I've spent many an hour watching my kids playing the
big plastic pool we set up every summer. They splash,
they shriek, the giggles come lifting out of the water
and drift across the yard like effervescent bubbles of joy.
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Whether it's your kids or grand kids or the neighbors kids.
I hope you've been witnessed to this type of unfair,
uttered glee this summer. If not taken afternoon and head
to your local park, a child's laughter works like a
powerful infusion of happiness. That's today's medical advice from dr
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to Lilah. A dose of happiness just one kitty park away,
one splash pool away. I've also taken a whole lot
of photos this summer hundreds of photos to the ad
to the tens of thousands of pictures I've taken over
the years. I love my pictures of summer, Shenanigan's first day,
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last day of school, concerts, performances, new babies, birthdays, celebrations,
kids jumping in the pool. I love my pictures of
my farm, the flowers, the critters, the changing seasons, and
I keep all of them in a jumbled mess, in boxes,
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tucked into corners of my closet, up in the attic,
on my phone, on my laptop. There has to be
a better way, and in fact, there is a better way.
I've discovered a service that's going to solve my problems
of too many photos and not enough organization. It's called Forever.
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Forever is an online company that provides permanent storage of
all your digital memories permanent as in Forever. Unlike cloud
services or other photo services, there are no monthly or
yearly subscription fees to pay at Forever, so you don't
have to worry about missing payments and losing access to
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all your digital memories. I know you're intrigued, just as
I was, so I invited CEO and founder of Forever,
a brilliant guy named Glenn meekom out to my farm
today to have lunch in the garden and then give
us the rundown on how this all works. Before we
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Love Someone. Is a fascinating man that I've had the
opportunity to have lunch. I think it to know a
little bit better, and now you're going to get to
know him a little bit better. Glenn Meekom, welcome to
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the Delila Studio to Love Someone today, and uh and
to my farm. Well great, hey, Delia, it's great to
be here with you. You have you have yet to
meet the emos. But did you see them over your
shoulder while you were dining? I did. I saw some
sort of animal like that in the distance and just beautiful.
Delila's farm is amazing and it's an honor to be here.
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Thanks so much for having me. I used to do
a weekend radio show, so I kind of like having
the sound of my ears. You used to do a
weekend radio show where I did, and uh, well it
was it was in Pittsburgh and it was the FM
News Talk one or four point seven and then Katie
Ka because FM News Talk, so it was a serious program.
I talked. I talked politics and economics and history and stuff,
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and it was funny. You know, I never went into
talk radio as much as I love talking and as
much as I love because you have to know stuff
like you have to be educated and informed. I would
much rather be out playing in my garden. I would
much rather be, you know, building volcanoes with my six
year old than like actually being informed. I mean, the
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things I'm passionate about. I know a little bit you do.
I think it's funny. We listen to you on my
member myself, members of my team, we listened to you.
We listened to Delilah, and you give great advice. I've
been I've been listening to you in the last two
weeks a lot, and you give and I've listened for years,
but just recently because we've we're working together, I've been listening.
And you give great advice to people. Thank you. When
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you've made many terrible life choices as I have, I
can say I don't really know what you should do,
but I can tell you what you shouldn't know. You
should not marry somebody just because they're cute and funny.
Cute and funny got me into a lot of trouble. Glenn. Yeah,
but you've been married. So first let's talk about who
you are and Wicker here on this podcast with me
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and love someone today. UM, and then we're gonna go
back to you've been married forever, but you are the
founder of Forever dot com cor. When I had this idea,
was the whole idea was I thought that, you know,
I'm a family guy. I've been married all these years.
I've got five kids, my wife and I and we
have and I love, as I told you at lunch,
I love family history. I love history in general. And
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I have all this stuff video tapes to my grandparents
video tape. But before my father died, I got a
great video tape of him talking about his life and
his experiences and what do you do with all that?
And I and I realized, if it's sitting in a
on a tape or something in a box, no one's
enjoying it. No is experiencing it now, and it's gonna
get lost. So I said, okay, it's got to be
in the cloud. It's gotta be in the Internet cloud.
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But I started reading all the terms of service, so
all these different you know, cloud storage places, and they're
gonna delete it if you stop paying every month, they're
gonna try to get you back for a year, then
they're gonna delete. If it's social media and they're basically
data mining your stuff and then using that information to
sell access to you to advertisers, Okay, that means it's
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you know, it's not really free because they're data mining you.
But um, but even if you're not, if you think
about it, you get old, you get Alzheimer's, you die.
Everybody's gonna die someday. Right, you're no longer valued valuable
to an advertiser. Well if if if the whole economic
model for keeping your stuff is because you're valuable to advertisers,
when you're gone, you're not valuable, So they're gonna delete
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your stuff. And I was reading all the terms of
service to all these different services and realize that this
is not what I need. I want to I want
to place. I want a cloud storage and sharing service
where I know all these photos, all these videos, audio files,
special documents, special precious memories are going to be there,
not just for today and tomorrow, but for generations into
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the future. It didn't exist. So I said, okay, I'm
going to start a company. That's right, I'm an entrepreneur.
I've started a number of companies, and so you started
forever dot com because you told me this at lunch,
and I'm going to bust you on it. Because you
had a video tape of your grandparents that you gave
to family members and they all lost them but one,
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and you said, wait a minute, this is they're gone.
Now you know our grandparents are gone. We need a
better way to store and share these great memories and
these great traditions, traditions. So who was the one that
actually kept the videotape of your grandpa? It was my uncle.
Your uncle kept the video table. Yeah, my brothers asked
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them and they didn't know where they when I shared
this years ago now, but I shared the VHS tape
And people people lose things all the time. And that's
the thing. The people who really care about the family memories,
that would be my sister. My sister is the keeper
of our family memory, right, and your sister Dianna. Right.
So Dianna needs a permanent digital home where she knows
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that just that that if she organizes and keeps all
the family memories in that place, it's gonna be there
and it's never gonna be lost because not every one
of the children, not every one of the grandchildren is
going to really care, but there will be some who
really do. There will always be those family memory keepers
in every generation who want that stuff, who want to
have the photos and want to have the videos. And
how good of my sister is. If I say, do
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you remember that picture blah blah blah, do you remember
that time? She says, yes, I have that. Can I
have that? No, No, you cannot because you will lose it,
she says, which I will. Well, and this is what
and forever solves that problem because now she can make
she can be the keeper, and she can share the
digital file with you, and you can lose the digital
file all you want. She's still got the core her
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digital home intact, it will never get lost. So back
to your relationship, because you said you've been listening to
my show and to my advice, and clearly you don't
need my advice because you've managed to stay married for
more than three decades. Yeah. Well, Um, I'm lucky. I
I've I've met a wonderful woman. Um, we had both
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had our you know. One of my favorite, um, one
of my favorite country songs is that song and you're
the you're the music expert, not me, but God bless
this broken road, broken road that led me straight to you.
And I think that love that song. I love that
song because you know, and this is the thing. Everyone's
got a broken road. Oh some of us have really
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broken roads. Some of us took the off road ramp.
You know. I've never been one to stay on a freeway.
I don't want to stay on a freeway. I want
to take the back road. I want to take the
off road. I want to go on the road last travel.
But that's oftentimes a really broken road. Yeah, yeah, it's good,
it's fun. Me. I think it was um. I forget
what famous poet wrote about that. You know, there was
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that they were on the road and there was a
fork in the road and they took the road less
travel than that made all the difference was that. I
think it was Robert Frost, But I think about that recently.
I was driving it was COVID. I was driving from
my home I live outside Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I was driving
on the highway and there was nobody in the highway.
It was just completely empty because I was like the
only one in the city. Going to going to work,
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and of course the safest place to be was it
the office because no one was there. But I'm there
and I'm driving, and I'm thinking to myself, well, you
know the nice thing about going And I've gone my
own way too. I'm different from you. Maybe I haven't
um had as many um obvious stumbles, but um, but
everybody has their stumbles. And but I've definitely gone my
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own way. I don't I don't copy anybody else. And
the great thing about going your own way and choosing
your own road is you don't spend much time in traffic.
And I noticed that about here. You know, here at
your farm, there's not a lot of traffic here, no traffic,
my traff I laughed, because people talk about the me
that commute home was miserable, and I always laugh. Say,
but you know, if you want to make, if people
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want to make a find real meaning in life. And
of course you know, you and I are both churchgoers,
and um, you know there's real meaning and believing in
God and trying to find your purpose of God and
having faith. But in terms of your professional activities or
your life making a living, it really helps to go
your own way. It helps to really say what what
do I want to do? What do I love to do?
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And if you can find a way to earn a
living doing what you love to do, life is just
so much better and you make such a bigger contribution,
so much better. I call it the sweet spot. You
know where you find that spot where your great passion.
For me, it's connecting, it's connecting. My great passion. I
love to connect people. I love to introduce people. I
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love to play matchmaker and introduce people that fall in love.
I love connecting people. So when I took that passion
and married it with the world's great need, which is
people are lonely at night. You know, radio reaches different
people at different times for different reasons. You know, if
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you're listening in morning drive, you want to know where
the traffic mess is, unless you're taking a back road
like you and I do. But people, you know, want
to know what happened in the news, or they want
to know where the traffic problems are, and they want
to be entertained. But at night, people want to slow
down and they want to process the day, and a
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lot of people are desperately lonely. Especially it's so Funny,
people in big cities are the loneliest people I've ever
talked to. The bigger the city, the lonelier the soul.
And so when I can take my passion, which is connecting,
and share it on the radio to meet that need
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of reminding people that they have great worth and great value,
then it works. Your passion is being an entrepreneur, but
your real passion, you know, out outside talking over lunch,
is your family. Family. Every two seconds, who would come
back to your son, Matthew, every you know, or your
wife or this or a ski trip or so you
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took that passion, yeah, and and and figured out that
there's a need families have. And if as I told you,
and I think a lot of entrepreneurs do this, they
see a need that they identify themselves. It's a need
in their own life. And then you say, well, gee,
do other people have this need to when you do
a little research and realize yeah, a lot of people
have this need and that's a business opportunity. And that's
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that's a great thing about the free market, right My
first company was called free Markets, And the great thing
about that economic freedom is, hey, I have the freedom
to go start a business and meet a need and
hopefully I can create a lot of jobs and create
a lot of value and create a great service for people.
But it's it's it's creating that UM, it's it's helping
society by meeting a need people have. And in our
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case with Forever dot Com, it's how many how many
people do you have that that are now being able
to support themselves or their families because they work with you.
Seventy five full time employees at Forever and UM we
also have twenty seven hundred UM affiliate salespeople, so people
who earn a commission as being a Forever ambassador. And
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these are the people that I need, because the ambassador
actually comes and hand holds you through the process of
collating and putting together the videotapes the VCRs. Absolutely, and yeah,
there are there are we have ambassadors. So we have
some in Australia, some in New Zealand, some in England,
but mostly in the US, and quite a few in Canada.
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And so yeah, there are people in pretty much every
community out there, every major metro certainly who can come
and help and uh, and many of them are organizers,
will help you organize your stuff and get it digitized
with you know, with Forever, because we digitize everybody's old
stuff and we also VCRs. You can digitize this. We
can dig ties anything, old family movies, my sister, I know,
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I know she's hoarding themselves, movies, everything. We can digitize everything.
And then of course, you know, you create your photo books,
you create holiday cards. You don't need to go when
people are going to this service for their holiday cards,
their Christmas cards, and they're going over here to print
a photo book, and then they've got stuff in storage
over here, and then they've uploaded stuff over there, and
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they've got a bunch stuff on their phone, and then
they got stuff at home and boxes. That is the mess,
that's the photo or the memory mess most people have.
And my life, that's my life. It's everywhere, it's everywhere,
and it's nowhere, like I don't have a spot where
everything is. And that's and it's a process, right, it's
it's it's not like anybody's going to click their fingers
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and all of a sudden they have all their memories organized.
But what people really need what I identified as a
problem ten years ago, and the solution is people really
need a permanent digital home a place where they can
over the months, in years, with the help of an
ambassador or on their own, they can you know, sink
their phone and get all their photos and videos that
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are new. You saw how many are on my phone?
How many? Isn't that insane? We need to get that
all on your new forever account. Isn't that insane? And
they're not really organized to They're probably just all a huge,
massive photo role. Yeah. So I do have a lot
of albums because you know, I put pictures of you know,
baby Paul in this one, and Little Delilah this one,
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and goats. I have just an album of goats, just goats. Yeah,
that's good. Goats are important in my life. They're very important.
Why ask me, why what do I do with my goats?
What do you do with your Absolutely nothing but love
on them. Sometimes we have milk goats. I was gonna say,
no goats milk. I love goats, making goats cheese and
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lavender soap out of goat's milk. But right now I
don't even have a goat in milk, so we're not
milking any goats right now. So No, they're just adorable
and I just loved them. One thing I've learned in life,
and I've been around long enough to have learned a
few things, is what makes life so rich in the
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world so rich, is that everybody is different, and everybody
has different interests. And when you get into the detail
of anything, it's like, I had no idea you could
make lavender soap out of goat's milk. There's just a
lot of smart people working really hard and making a
contribution and and and worrying about all different kinds of things.
And that's what makes society go around. And your part
right now is helping. Especially. It's got to be like moms. Yes, yeah,
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we we always say it's something because dads have one
picture in their wallet. Right, it's moms and grandma's are
are primary, that's right. Our primary clients are mothers and grandmothers.
Um not a lot of teenagers. Because we we find
once once a woman's had that baby, now she's thinking
about twenty years, thirty years, forty years ahead of her
before that. She's not thinking so long term. But once, no, no,
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not even once she has the baby. It's once they
start school and and they have the kindergarten graduation and
they have their first recital, and they learned to play
the little recorder, and then they learned to play the horn,
or they go into choir. All of a sudden, you've
got pictures and videos and and you need something to
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do with them, right, And you also know as a mom,
as a parent, you know, because we have a few
good we have a lot of great moments. We have,
you know, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of fabulous women.
We have a few good men. We always kid about
that that, you know, the old Marine Corps tagline, A
few good We definitely have a few good men at
Forever who really care about the family memories too. But yeah,
you know, there's an expectation now that hey, that rehearsal
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dinner party is going to be coming up in twenty
five years, and you're going to need the baby pictures.
Where all the baby pictures go, where all those videos go?
Where are we gonna get all that? You know? Where
do you keep all that stuff for my sister? Isn't
that horrible? How I just I naturally a zoom that
Anna is just going to handle all that. She's always
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been the one to handle not just the family memories,
but the family business. You know, the family get together as,
the family trips, the family stuff. She's like always been
even before mom and Dad passed. They were really young
when they died, but even before they passed, somehow she
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stepped into that role either she decided she wanted to
or by default that that she is the keeper of
our family traditions, our family stories. Yeah, that's important, and
that's I would say that I have this I have
this chart where you have some people are really big
memory keepers, like Deanna, and they're the ones who really
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really need to have that permanent digital home at forever
dot com and organize all the family memories and keep it.
But then you have other people who are the satellite people.
They need to be able to have an account to,
they need to be able to share and see, but
maybe they're not as in to the really being the
big organizer. But we we want to provide that permanent
digital home for that big organizer person and all of
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her family around her, and that's that's what we do.
So back to your story, is in your family your
wife the keeper of all this or have you always?
I would say Diane and I my wife is Diane.
We both how many years how many years together. God
were this summer? Thirty three years we've been married. Good? Yeah,
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we've kept it together. It's a it's a it's a
work in process, you know, it's not I think keep
having a successful long marriage is about UM marrying well,
you know, you gotta find somebody who's compatible and who
you really love, and but it's also a question of
UM really loving each other, respecting each other, and listening.
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That's one thing I've learned to do. I mean, there
were I think every marriage has its really tough moments,
and a lot of marriages blow apart when those tough
moments come. But um, I think I gotten a lot
better at listening than I used to be. And that's
been one thing that's been important in keeping our marriage together.
Is that because you've just naturally evolved into this better listener?
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Or did Diane say you never listened to me and
I am so sick and tired of this? Like did
she actually lay it out there or did you just
come to a realization? Oh no, I think that, Um.
One of the keys is communications. So no, we one
thing about our marriage is we we communicate. That means
sometimes we fight and sometimes you know, we we we
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we can weather all the time. You need to be
able to fight with your your spouse or your significant
another so long as you fight kindly. When you have
a disagreement or a problem that arises and you become mean,
mean spirited or say mean spirited things, you just you
just destroyed the fabric of your your marriage. Agree with
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your union. But if you can disagree kindly, like still
respect the other person, but veheimately disagree. Um, that's that's
how you work through things. I agree with you, And
I think that where so many relationships go off track
is that people just can't talk and can't be honest
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with each other. And you're totally right. I always this
is the way I like to run a company too,
Is you think about it, It's the same in the marriage,
same in apparent child relationship, same in a company relationship
where you gotta be honest if you're not gotta be honest,
and you gotta respect one another. And I call it,
you know, it's like honesty and then graciousness. If you
can be honest with each other and gracious with each other,
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and by the way, that takes this thing called courage.
I really think in our society today We don't talk
enough about courage that it it takes courage to actually
speak the hard truths and be honest. It takes courage
to confront your own past, be honest with yourself. And
that's the way it is in life. In marriage, if
you can actually speak the truth, have the courage to
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speak the truth, and then speak it in a great
as you're saying, in a gracious way, then you can
have a conversation and and respect each other and work
through whatever the issues are and keep a marriage together.
If if you can't speak the truth and you're not
gracious to each other, it's gonna blow apart. Glenn and
I could chat for hours and hours about our pictures,
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then use my name Delilah to get special pricing on
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your accommodations. It's funny. So I served in the First
Call four. I used to had a military scholarship in college,
and I was an officer in the army. And I
went and served, and I was a reserve reserve officer,
So I've been on active duty after college. Then I
was in the reserves, working normal job and met my wife,
I got married. Um I was, I was in graduate
school and then I volunteered went back on active duty
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to serve in the First Call four. This is and
I was a combat engineer officer. I served was over
there for six months. I came back. Well, my wife,
we've been only married about a year year and a
half when I went, and I had no idea going
into this. You know, I thought I was the one
who was serving, right. I had no idea how um,
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how much the spouse or the mother or father or
brother and sister who are left behind, how much they're
serving too. I mean, it's really something. It's a really
it's a huge burden. And yeah, because it's not like
you're out of sight, out of mind. They're worrying, praying,
trying to figure out where you are, what's going on?
Are you safe, are you fed? Are you too hot?
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You know, exactly exactly. So she Diane was very supportive
of me doing this volunteering and serving, and she's very
patriotic as em I, and she was very supportive. But
you know, then I'm gone for all this time and
I got back and it was wonderful coming back, oh
or you know. But but also, you know, when you've
been gone a long time, it's like it's like a
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finger and a bucketful of water. You know, you pull
the finger out. You know, it's kind of like people
learned to kind of live without you, and then all
a sudden you're back in and it's it's very stressful.
So we went and did some counseling. So We've been
married thirty three years, and we've done counseling at various
points in our marriage, and this was the first time.
And we went and uh, and I remember we sat
down for the first time with this counselor and and
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he looked at me and said, well, why are we here?
And I said, well, you know, Diane's been very upset
and this and that and the other thing. And and
of course he physically moved, because the three of us
were sitting kind of, you know, like a triangle, he
physically moved his body, shifted away from Diane, looked straight
at me and said, Glenn, let's talk about you. So
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he wanted went right for the heart of the matter, right,
And I think that that, um, you know, when this
gets back to what keeps relationships together, what keeps family together,
is when we when we are aware of ourselves. I think,
when if you're blaming other people for the problems, maybe
you're the problem. It's it's such a it's such a
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pleasure to talk with you. It's a real honored to
be here at your farm. And so you've got five kids,
how many grandkids? We have one on the way, one
on the way. So now Forever dot com is really
gonna kick in because every picture Grandma takes of the baby,
when the baby gets here, her phone is going to
have as many pictures on it as mine does, just
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of one granding yeah and well and then of course,
but they'll all be in her Forever account. So it's
all backed up and saved, triple backed up and secured,
and it won't get lost and it won't get you know,
won't get dropped in. It's amazing how many people's phones,
uh get lost because they dropped them like they're at
a bathroom, and then they're confused about maybe they have
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some kind of cloud storage back up, but they don't
even understand what it is and it's not permanent. And
then it's just so we we are really into solving
that problem and it's good. So forever dot com that's
all they have to know. If people want to get
more information on what I do, yeah, just go to
forever dot com. Just the word we own it. We
I started. We when we started the company ten years ago,
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we paid for that domain and we've owned it ever since.
We are to have the brand name Forever, and it's
all about keeping those precious precious family memories, the videos
and the photos, and the documents and the audio files.
Some audio files sometimes it's the last message someone left
before they died, that that that message is so important
to people. You can save all of that in your
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permanent digital hemet Forever dot com and if you want
more information to go to Forever dot com. Lynn. Thank you,
thank you for spending time with us today, and thank
you for being so delightful. God bless you. Thank you, Delia.
Permanent digital storage for all your precious memories, share able
for generations to come. That's what Forever offers you when
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you buy storage space on their platform. Create your library
with all the photos and scanned documents you want to
keep safe, then sort to your hearts content, making albums
that you can share with family, albums you can share
with friends, making photo books for each one of your
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grandkids so they can have access to great Grandma EULA's
photographs or her recipe for fried peach pies. Forever even
has ambassadors scattered all across the country, even in Canada,
and they'll match you up with an ambassador to help
you with the process, as well as additional services like
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photo negative and film scanning and digitizing to get all
those dusty old movies, old videos, old slides out of
boxes and being looked at once again. And then think
of the possibilities framable prints, memory books, calendars, greeting cards. Yep,
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Forever does that too. See why I'm so excited about this.
I've welcomed Forever into my world, and I'm sure I'll
have much more to say about them in the coming
months as I begin to build my digital library. If
you're curious, visit them at Forever dot com. Glenn and
his wonderful ambassadors I met about three d and fifty
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of them are waiting to welcome you aboard. August is
coming to a close soon, back to school, cooler weather,
falling leaves, and the apple harvest approaches, a whole new
season to be excited about, and with many, many, many
picture taking opportunities that lie ahead. Make the most of it,
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and I'll be right here cheering you on with every
time you say say cheese. Join me nightly on the air,
daily on my short form podcast, Hey it's Delilah, And
in another two weeks be back here on Love Someone,
when I'll have another fascinating guest to sit down with.
I love spending time with you, and do me a
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favor in your busy, busy summer schedule, slow day, and
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