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How's everyone doing on this cold winter day. I know
there are many many things to dislike about this time
of year, but there are so many things to love
about it, like making snow angels are going sledding if
you live in an area with snow, or endless cups
of your favorite hot beverage warming you from the inside out.
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There's books to read and puzzles to put together unless
you've got a five year old like I do, and
then the puzzle pieces disappear, and games that you never
have time for. Shoots and Ladders is the big one
in our house these days. How about extra snuggles with
your babies or your fur babies. There are so many activities, experiences,
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and things that are only possible when shorter days keep
us inside longer and cooler temperatures make that time more inviting.
I hope that if you feel a little down or loomy,
you can find something to love about this season we're
in right now, because that is the best way to
chase away the winner blues. Well. That and walking. If
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I can get in a good walk every day, even
if it's raining, I am so much happier. Maybe this
podcast is one of those things you can save her
and enjoy I sure hope. So that is my goal,
after all, to spread a little joy and a lot
of love and a lot of light into some of
the dark places of our world. Right now, my guest
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today will definitely help too. She's an Emmy, Grammy and
Golden Globe nominated actress, singer, and songwriter who became famous
at the age of fifteen with her debut pop single
Candy and her platinum albums So Real. After releasing multiple
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chart toppers, she made the move from stage to screen,
starring as Lanta Thomas in the comedy film The Princess
Diaries and Jamie Sullivan in the gut wrenching A Walk
to Remember and several more in the early to mid
two thousand's, But since twenty sixteen, many of us know
her as Rebecca Pearson from the hit NBC family drama
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series This Is Us. That's how I fell in love
with her. I am obviously not alone. I can't wait
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With me on our new episode of Love Someone. Uh.
And I just confessed off the air. Uh. But it's
gonna be hard for me to have this conversation without
just gushing and drooling because I am such a fan girl.
Mandy Moore, Welcome to Delilah's Love Someone. Hello, I'm so
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happy to be here. So we've got a lot to
cover because you've got music that came out right before
COVID that we didn't ever get to connect on You've
got music that's about to come out, and you've been
a little busy, you know, out with that little TV
show that Please tell me they were lying when they
said this is the last year. I wish, I wish
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it wasn't the truth. But yes, we're we're about halfway
through with our final season, season six. I hate that
word final, you and me both. I mean, this has
just been like the best job I've ever had, and
I've been in the industry for twenty one years. It's
going to be so challenging to say goodbye to the character.
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But also, like my friends, I get just like go
to work every single day with with like my family,
and we've been a family from the very beginning, and
the idea that I'm not going to see those faces
every day is just gutting to me. So there was
a woman who called into a radio show, not even
my radio show, my girlfriend Linda, who was on the
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air in um Worcester, Massachusetts. A woman called in who
had been kicked out of her parents home h as
a teenager, and she had had some really hard times
and she said, you know, if I had known it
was my last night, I would have enjoyed it more.
And Lyndash I listened, you know, I was listening to
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her show and I heard that, and then she shared it.
You know, when we got together and talked about how
impactful that was for her, and we kind of made
a pact, our little circle of friends that we would
face every day based on that phone call. Because you
don't know when it's going to be your last. But
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this girl said, if I know it was my last
night at home, I would have enjoyed it more. Goodness,
that is so heartbreaking. Yeah, I mean, isn't that sort
of the trick of being human as trying to be
as present as possible And it's it's indefinitely hard, Like
I I struggle with it every day. But yes, I
give you that gift because you know it's your last season, unless, yes,
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the network decides to get smart and with a good thing.
You know, Can I just put a vote as it's
up for a vote. So let me let me tell you,
Mandy Moore, how I discovered you and fell in love
with you. I had adopted a young boy out of
foster care. He was twelve when we got him, and
he had had a really really horrible experience. He had
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been in foster care most of his life, bounced around
to eight or ten different homes, and had a pretty
tough exterior, And so I thought it would be good
to get him involved in our youth group at a church.
And so the youth group decided to go see a
movie at the local theater. And my tough, really tough
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exterior son came home like's not crying that movie? You
gotta go see? You what to remember, Mom, but take
a lot of tissue. Like he was still crying when
he got home, And I'm like, wow, Like what touched
him so deeply? I wanted to know? So, like the
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next day, I call a couple of my dearest friends
and we went to see a walk to Remember. I'm
so floored. You were like two years older than him
or three years older than him at the time you
started in that right, How old were your seventeen? I was,
I was sixteen. I turned seventeen in the middle of filming.
He will to this day if you ask him what
movie touched him the most, it was you and the
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character you played, and for some reason, just that reality
that life's not fair, like he knew, he knew that
life wasn't fair, but I don't think he had words
to put with it. And I don't know seeing your
character and seeing what you faced in the and I
know that was a character, but but you played it
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so convincingly that it touched my heart. And and so
from that moment on, I was a fan girl. And
then I went back and and just ever your music,
what you had released as a couple of years before,
and uh, and and and then I've just followed you
all along Princess Diaries and everything. Oh my goodness, I
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am so flattered. Wow. Yeah, for some reason, that movie
in particular, Oh my gosh, it's actually the twentieth anniversary
of that movie this year. It really had just it
resonated then and continued somehow to resonate with with folks.
I think the idea of, you know, having someone recognize
the goodness in you that you may not see in yourself,
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the idea of being able to change, Like, there's just
so many themes I think that like feels so universal
to people that they have really just like taken that
film to heart. And uh, it's it's fun to watch
like younger folks discover it even now. It's it's amazing. Well,
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you play a character that that's kind of old. Yes,
I do, Like right now, your character and this is
Us is seventy right, Yeah, I get to play the
matriarch character on the show. Yeah that I I get
to play this this woman from her mid twenties to
her mid eighties and everything in between. It's it's an
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incredible um gift to be able to to portray this
woman at so many different junctures of her life. I
get to work with all of the actors, all of
the different ages of the children portrayed, from like babies
to adults. It's it's a dream. Well, you play it
so convincingly that when I was doing research for this interview,
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I was shocked to remember. And I had a traumatic
experience a few years ago, so my memory is gone.
I'm almost as bad as your character in the movie.
But I was shocked to remember that you could be
my child in real life. Now, in in the TV show,
you're ten years older than me almost of the day,
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but in real life, you could be one of my children.
And I was like, how do you play a seventy
year old woman so convincingly? Oh, you're very kind. I
have to say so much of the physical transformation I
think is a huge part of it. I I go
through about three and a half hours of prosthetic hair
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and makeup, um with you know, to sort of go
through the aging process to play Rebecca Pearson and her
seventies and so I can interact with my adult children.
That helps. It also gives me like the you know,
the three and a half hours to sort of get
into that frame of mind. I mean, because normally there's something,
you know, undoubtedly emotional going on, so just be the
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time to sort of just zen out and think about
who I am, where I am, what I've lived through
at this point in my life. And I I love it.
So Often people are like, oh my gosh, how do
you go through, you know, hours and hours of pir
and makeup. I think we've this season alone already done
it over twenty times. Um, it's a lot of hours
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of my life. But I I really like look forward
to that time. Actually, I think it does help me
sort of prepare and mentally get in the right frame
of mind to approach today's work. But yeah, I think
the physical transformation has so much to do with it.
I was really nervous initially because I remember the very
first scene in the first season for them to sort
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of really uh give the sums up that this was
going to be something that worked. Instead of potentially hiring
an actress who was a little bit older than me
to portray the character, um, I had to interact in
a scene with ron Cephas Jones, who is quite a
bit older than me. He's not quite as old as
he was playing, but he's you know, a fair bit
older than me. And I was so nervous to have
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to you know, get made up and do this very
emotional scene with him. But somehow it worked. And now
it feels so comfortable to sort of slip on those
shoes and and to be that woman at that age
and a place in her life, even even though she's
in the midst of dealing with dementia and Alzheimer's and
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and everything that sort of comes along with it. It's
a yeah, this this season is a real doozy for
all of us. Well for anybody who has not seen
this is us. Um, they're just they're missing out on
such such a treat, in such an emotional roller coaster.
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I told you I have many children that are adopted.
So I love the the care with which the adoption
stories are threaded throughout. But I have to tell you,
it was hard for me to forgive your character there
for a while when she didn't tell Randol the truth.
I almost broke up with you over that. I was like,
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how could you, um, how could you hide such a
huge truth from him? But being an adoptive mom and
being in the adoption community so much, there are there
are times where you ask yourself, you know, is is
this a truth that I should share? Or is this
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something that would hurt my child? Or so I forgave you. No,
I had to forgive her as well. I mean, that's
the thing about playing a character when you often don't
agree with all the choices that they make. And that's
such the truth of this show is, you know, the
Pearsons are not a perfect family. They're human, they're fallible.
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They make choices that we're not all going to agree
with the way that they handle their life. But ultimately
they're trying to be, you know, the best version of themselves,
and they live and they learn and and Repelta is
a seriercely loyal matriarch. She loves her family, She puts
her family before everything else, and that was a you know,
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a particularly challenging part of the character, especially in the beginning,
to sort of forgive her and allow myself to like
to hold space for her and have grace for this this,
you know, what I presumed to be a big mistake,
that she had been, this lie she had been living
for you know, over thirty years of her life. But um,
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but it certainly is fun to sort of take all
of the colors of who these people are and sort
of flash it on the canvas. Every day. How many
days a week do you guys shoot five days a
week and months out of the year, long days, long days? Yes,
Because I I would watch and I go, did they
like shoot this? Because you know, you're in the same room,
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in the same costume, in the same conversation two years later,
and I'm a detailed person. So I look at all
the details. I look at the decorations, I look at
the cops that you serve, the tang in. I look
at all that because that was my generation. So I'm
sitting there going, I remember that. I remember that. I
remember that, And then I think, do they like? They go, Okay,
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we're gonna shoot all of the scenes from the fire
all at the same time. I wish we did. It
never happens that way. And the funny thing about our
show as well, it's like, no one should ever assume
if they're just coming on and they have one line
in an episode that that's it. There's very often a
chance that they might be brought in and have an
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entire episode built around them. Like it's been wild to
watch that, And yes, uh, it's so often you think like, okay,
we're we're done with that scene, and to three seasons
later you'll revisit that exact same time period with the
exact same costume and sort of have to you know,
sort of file through the filing cabinet and go back
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to that that particular time and go, Okay, I need
to like place myself back there again, because here we are.
It's important. And the kids, the kids have now the
first set of kids have aged out, because I see
this season it's another set of kids, and yet they're
they're they're they're able to get into character as well
as the first set of kids. Yeah, at six years
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old too. It's just unbelievable. We're so lucky. We we
have never had a bad apple, like from the very top.
Um uh from from our boss who created a show, Dan,
it's sort of a trickle down effect. No, everybody is
just fantastic and the kid actors are so much fun.
They are also patients. Um. Yeah, I can't say enough
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good good stuff about everybody. Well, you guys do a
phenomenal job. And your character in the show is a
young woman who wants to be a singer. You went
to California when you went to l A and the
record producer said you're great for Pittsburgh. Yeah, it's good.
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That line broke my heart, I gotta say, but I
love that throughout the storyline you put your career on
the back burner so that you can focus on your triplets,
on the three kids. Um. And I think a lot
of women who do that have a lot of mixed
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emotions joy to be with their kids, anger or resentment
that they, you know, put that part of their life
on hold. And um. In real life, you are quite
an accomplished singer performer. That was that happened before the
acting happened. Do you ever feel like you had to
put your music on hold for for this baby of
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this is us? Or no, it's it's funny, I think
had it. I started off in the music industry, you know,
when I was fifteen years old, and that's sort of
what opened all of the doors for the Princess Diaries
and A Walk to Remember and all of the acting
things that subsequently came after that. And there was a
period of my life where music was really dormant for
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about almost a decade or a little over a decade.
And I think it really was the gift of This
is Us and Dan Fogelman and our writers that decided
to sort of infuse my character's backstory with music because
it unlocked something and me again that I really couldn't ignore,
which was that music is a huge part of who
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I am. It's a huge part of my identity, and
I missed it and I just needed some way to
sort of find, you know, find my way back to
myself for that part of myself. When when when COVID hit,
you guys had some challenges with filming everything we did.
I read some of the rigamarole you had to go
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through just to be on the set, just to be
able to shoot. And you were pregnant then, yeah, I
was pregnant. I was five months pregnant when we went
back um and started season five, and um, it was
it sort of felt like the wild West because you know,
it was pre vaccines, still sort of understanding what COVID meant,
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and we were one of the first shows or productions
at least in Los Angeles to go back to work.
So there were tons of protocol, most of which is
still very much in place to this day of you know,
the ppe that everybody had to wear, we test multiple
times a week. Um. But yeah, it made it feel
a little, um crazier just because I was pregnant. UM.
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But oddly like once we've sort of gotten the flow
of things, I felt safe for being at work than
I did pretty much anywhere else besides like being at home,
just because there was you know, we were surrounded by
folks in masks and shields and so much for cautions
were taken. Um. But it does make things tough in
the sense that you know, I remember in the early days,
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one you know, positive case would potentially shut the whole
show down for like a week in a time or
something until we started to understand the virus more and
how things spread. But but it's still challenging. I mean,
we were just I'm directing an episode this season, and
we were just up in San Francisco and one positive
case sort of had the trickle effective, like well, this
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person was around this person and around this person, and
it kind of like wiped everybody out and we ended
up having to come home a day early. So it's, uh,
it's certainly not ideal. It's better now, but um, but yeah,
it's it's a strange days to be shooting during this,
this era of of COVID. So, um, how far in
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advance of shooting an episode, do you guys know what's
going to happen in the episode? Like, do you know
what happens in this season? Are you? Oh? Yes, how
it all ends. We've actually shot part of the very
very last episode a couple of seasons ago, so yes,
we're we're in the know. I mean, I think it's
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important for all of us to sort of be able
to understand the journey that we're on, like it informs
how do you keep it a secret? Like how do
you keep it a secret? If you and I were buddies,
if we were friends, there is no way I would
let you keep that a secret from me. I would
like cook you your favorite foods. I would have a
glass of wine give you. My friends know that. Do
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they ever use that to their advantage? I think in
earlier seasons, But at this point everybody's like no, no, no, no, no,
especially my family. My family used to want to know,
and now they're they're sort of of of the minds like, no,
we want to sort of watch it unfold with everybody
else and be surprised. And so yeah, I'm I'm pretty
good at at staying tight lipped. Well, I hope it
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has happy endings, because if I have been married to
you guys for six years now and then it ends
with you know, it'll make you feel good. I promise. Okay, okay,
Well I would watch anyway because I don't have it.
We don't have TV in our house and I don't
let my kids have very much screen time at all.
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But you are my guilty pleasure. Oh well, I am honored.
Thank you. So back to music. You had an album
that you released like the week that COVID hit. Yes, ma'am. Yeah,
good timing there, great timing there. Yeah, I mean who
was who was to know what was about to hit us?
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So I made my first record was called Silver Landing's
first record in over a decade. We were four days
away from hitting the road for my first tour since
two thousand and seven. I wrote the entire album with
my husband. He played on it, he was in my band,
and yes, the record came out and the next week
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the world sort of shut down, so it was wild.
We were actually in New York. We did Today's show,
we had done Fallon, and it was funny. In between
the time that we got to Fallon and and sound checked.
I remember them telling us, like, you guys at the
last show with an audience, because starting next week on Monday, like,
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we're taping without an audience, And I remember all of
us thinking like, wow, that's crazy. We got in right
under the wire by the time sound check rolled around,
and then the time we started filming, they were like, actually,
there's no audience and we're getting like the heck out
of Dodge as soon as we're done taping the show,
and I remember we performed for a completely empty theater.
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Jimmy Fallon had already left to go home, and I
don't think they none of the crew like they that
nobody showed back up to that theater. I thinks for
you know, six eight months or something was crazy. So
it was a very strange time and uh yeah, but
the silver lining for me was, um, I got to
come home and spend some time with my husband, and
I got pregnant. So there you go, there you go.
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That was the silver lining. That was the silver lining.
And now you're working on another album that, ma'am, that
is going to be out soon. Yes, sometime this year,
I think, probably just in time with the end of
of This Is Us and then hopefully we'll be able
to pick up, you know, where we left off with
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the tour in June and July of this year. But
I think the idea was trying to find some some
way to sort of pour the creative momentum that we
had making Silver Landings, making the last album, trying to
find a way, um to still feel creative during the pandemic.
And very early on I just decided with my husband Taylor, like,
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let's just keep writing music and figure out how to
record it and make another record and go on the
road with it when the world opens back up, and
and you know, it just sort of coincided with this
idea of like my entire world turning upside down. And
becoming new parents and being on the precipice of so
much change. So the records really rooted in that, in
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the idea of this discovering, this new sense of self
and wondering what our life was going to be like
and this you know, indescribable love and the immediacy of
it all, and um, yeah, so that's I'm super excited
for everything that this record is is gonna unlock and
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open up and hopefully be able to go on the
road and be with my husband and with my my
son with us, and he'll he'll come with us and
it'll be a whole family affair. The best part of
just everything, everything like the unknown. I mean, everyone told
us it gets it just keeps getting better, and that
is the truth, every phase, every age. Just when you
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think like it can't get better, um it does. Write
a song about that, and then when they're thirteen, listen
to it every night. I'm sure that's coming months. He's
only ten months old. He's only he's just starting to like,
you know, pull himself up and starting to you know,
because he's on the precipice walking and so it's like
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all the good stuff of the laughing and smiling, and
his personality is coming to light, and it's just it's
the best. And I feel so lucky that I get to,
you know, bring him to work with me most days.
And he's just like he's come to work with me
since I was since he was a month old. And
he's very confused sometimes when I'm in the prosthetic age makeup,
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he's like, I joke that he's he calls me Grandma
mom because you know, I'm like the grandma and the
mom in one. It's very weird. He hears my voice.
I know he smells me, but I look entirely different.
So um. I don't know. He'll probably have to therapy
at some point in his life because of it, but
but I feel lucky I get to bring him with me.
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and your husband. Happiest moment of your life, um, I
would say summiting Mount Kilimanjaro was the happiest day of
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my life. It was something I had wanted to do
since I was a teenager, and to sort of fully
realize this goal that I had had in mind for
so long, and to be there and to be present,
and it was just this incredibly foggy day. It almost
felt like we were in a light installation, all these
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sort of pastel colors from the sun and being up
on top of this glacier. It was mind blowing. How
long did you train for it, Chilly, I didn't really
train for it, but we took I believe it was
like a seven day adventure of like camping as you
as you climb the mountain. I love hiking and I
love being in the mountains. So um, this was yeah,
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just in unbelievable bucket list accomplishment. Um. Definitely the happiest moment.
There are lots of tears on the summit. Very fun,
very fun. Well, I can't wait to see what other
mountains you're going to climb. Ah, you're very kind. Thank you.
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That means so much to all of us. Please when
the album is ready to be released, UM, I will
be back. I'll talk about it anytime. I would love
to love to have another chat with you. This is
so much fun. You promised me you'd call me back,
So we're gonna. We're gonna have that conversation as soon
as you're ready to release the music. It has been
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such a joy to talk to you. You too, I
look forward to chatting again at some point soon, very soon,
Mandy Moore, thank you for for joining us, and just
be safe, be blessed. I'm gonna I'm enjoying all the moments,
soaking it all in. Okay, thank you, Bye, bye, Hunt Bye,
thank you. Who What a pleasure it was to share
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this time with Mandy Moore. She has been a fixture
on stage and screen since a very young age, and
has matured in both her music and acting skills beautifully.
I watched very little TV, but I fell in love
with This Is Us when it first debuted six years ago. Actually,
my friend Leslie told me about it and she said,
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you've got to watch this show because I have um,
I have adopted children, and she knew it would resonate
with me, and I'm hooked. I will miss the series
so much, but I am eager to see and hear
what this now season veteran takes on next. She's teased
us with the promise of some new music later this year,
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so keep your ear to the ground for that. In
the meantime, do sit for a minute and ask yourself
what beautiful things are unfolding in your life right now
that you might be overlooking. It's easy to do when
the weather isn't welcoming, when you're eager for spring, when
there are COVID shutdowns, when the kids bus schedule has
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been canceled. Are there birds or squirrels outside your windows?
They can entertain me for as long as I let them.
I love watching the wild birds. I love listening to
the sound of my children's laughter when you let them
go play in the snow. If you have snow in
your area, or just go outside and splash in the rain,
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allow yourself the luxury of a long, hot bath at
the end of a long cold day. Nothing else can
steal your joy when you stay focused on the goodness.
Twinkle lights aren't nearly as sparkly in the sunshine as
they are in the dark. Enjoy winter while it's here.
We'll have plenty of opportunity to complain about the heat
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of summer soon enough. I'll try to keep you company,
no matter what the weather is outside, no matter what
craziness is going on in our world. Join me on
the next episode of Love Someone, and of course nightly
on my radio show. Because I love spending time with you.
Since you've all been so wonderful and supportive of Love Someone,
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I was inspired to do more on the podcast platform,
So earlier this month, on Valentine's Day, I launched a
new daily podcast called Hey It's Delilah. This one's a
little different most days. It will be ten to fifteen
minutes long, and it's made up of some of my
favorite moments on the radio. It'll be a mixture of
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listener calls and dedications, Delilah's dilemmas, things that cracked me up,
or thoughts I had that I felt worth sharing again.
So look for Hey It's Delilah on your favorite podcast
platform and subscribe. It's a little daily dose of Delilah
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that you can listen to whenever it's convenient for you.