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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yo yo yo jess Hilario ass some morning.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
And currently we are on vacation.
Speaker 4 (00:12):
Man, totally disconnected. Yes, we're not even really here. You
think you're listening to us.
Speaker 5 (00:16):
But we're not.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Well, we are not.
Speaker 6 (00:17):
We're here in spirit.
Speaker 7 (00:19):
Yeah, yeah, we're on vacation.
Speaker 8 (00:21):
So we're playing the best Donkeys, the best interviews you guys,
which is the best callers and some of the best
moments the Breakfast Club has had in the last couple
of months. So sit back, relax, enjoy and have fun.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Keep a lock.
Speaker 7 (00:32):
Red is gonna be running the boards.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 7 (00:35):
Good morning, telling, I'm telling what you doing? A call
of yo.
Speaker 9 (00:41):
This is your time to get it off your chest,
whether you're mad or blessed.
Speaker 6 (00:44):
Eight hundred and five eight five one.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
O five one.
Speaker 9 (00:46):
We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 7 (00:49):
Hello, who's this?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
You're what's up?
Speaker 10 (00:52):
Trap yas? What's the baby? What's our star? Are you?
Speaker 7 (00:56):
Please? What eup? Says?
Speaker 10 (00:57):
How are you now? I'm doing good? It's checking on
my bro checking on my girl. See how y'all doing.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
We are bloods black, and how they with my brother?
My brother who you're getting into this weekend?
Speaker 10 (01:06):
Listen, let me tell you all right, you see, I
just try to skate by.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
That and I just keep talking.
Speaker 11 (01:12):
Yes, I'm sorry, Go ahead.
Speaker 10 (01:15):
So when y'all use the public restroom, right, do y'all
put you off bear butt cheeks on the public toilet?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
No? I don't think anybody does.
Speaker 10 (01:25):
No, Okay. I had to stop talking to this guy
because he'd be out here bear button public toilet seats,
and he was trying to tell me that it is
actually sanitary to not put the liners down on toilet seas.
You know what's so crazy. I just called and I
was just talking to be and he didn't answer the phone,
and he said he heard the same thing. That is sanitary.
Speaker 7 (01:45):
Why a bottom? Yeah, well we're gonna get a bump
on your butt.
Speaker 10 (01:50):
Don't sit or public toilet seat tweeze with your bear butt.
Speaker 7 (01:53):
That's nasty.
Speaker 12 (01:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
The only way it would be unsanitary if you're using
the same line as somebody.
Speaker 7 (01:57):
Now that's nasty.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Imagine seeing the line already the to and you sit
on the line and you like, thank you guys.
Speaker 10 (02:05):
But all right, y'all, you have a good weekend, good Friday,
freaky freaky Friday. Make sure you'll do something freaky today.
Speaker 7 (02:11):
You know, I ask you who you was getting into.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
By the business yard?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Goodbye?
Speaker 7 (02:18):
Hello, who's this?
Speaker 10 (02:20):
Good morning?
Speaker 7 (02:20):
DJ?
Speaker 12 (02:21):
Andrey Charlom and the guy Hilario.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Get off your chest?
Speaker 10 (02:26):
All right, I gotta get off my chest.
Speaker 12 (02:28):
Donald Rollins is clearly one of the funniest people on
the planet because he's doing it for it's long at
the highest level.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
For you to come at.
Speaker 12 (02:36):
The Breakfast Club and complain that people aren't taking you
serious because of them, it's a little whack. It's ingenuously you.
On one interview you said you had a book and
brought out a pamphlet.
Speaker 7 (02:49):
He was funny, but I get it.
Speaker 12 (02:53):
But you hear David Chappelle Kevin Hart when he speaking interviews.
They're funny, but you also haveing, like real conversation.
Speaker 7 (03:01):
It's always a joke, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 12 (03:03):
But hey, they swooped, Donald Rollins, you know you're one
of the greatest to ever do it. Stop crying love
to the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Y'all have a good morning. And that's really what it
boils down to. You want to you are great at
what you do. Don now he is stop crying. Get
it off your chest. Eight hundred five eight five one
oh five one. If you need to vent, phone lines
a wide open. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the
Breakfast Club.
Speaker 13 (03:27):
I'm telling, I'm telling what you're doing.
Speaker 7 (03:31):
Call of yo.
Speaker 9 (03:32):
If this is your time to get it off your chest,
whether you're mad or blessed.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
Eight hundred five eight five one five one.
Speaker 9 (03:38):
We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 7 (03:41):
Hello.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
Who's this?
Speaker 14 (03:43):
Good morning? It's James calling from North Carolina.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
Hey James, what up?
Speaker 7 (03:46):
Brother?
Speaker 5 (03:47):
Uh?
Speaker 14 (03:48):
Oh, good morning everybody?
Speaker 6 (03:51):
What's wrong?
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Oh?
Speaker 14 (03:56):
Just love you?
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Can you can't hear you?
Speaker 7 (04:02):
Just love your kids? James.
Speaker 8 (04:04):
James recently found a text message from his son and
uh and the text message his son was saying that
he wanted to off himself.
Speaker 14 (04:12):
Well his mom saying about he doesn't want to be buried,
but he's not.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
How old is your son?
Speaker 7 (04:21):
Brother?
Speaker 14 (04:23):
He's seventy.
Speaker 7 (04:25):
Have you take him? Have you took him? Took him
to talk talk to anybody yet? Brother?
Speaker 14 (04:29):
I'm I'm gonna go the other day I was gonna
go so it cut his hair and go see that
captain there week. I think I'm gonna go to day.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
You definitely should do that. Y'all should go to y'all
should go to some family counselor man. Just have him
sit down and.
Speaker 8 (04:46):
Talk to somebody sooner than later. Brother, Absolutely, Oh god, I.
Speaker 14 (04:52):
Got out of the only think even bored I wanted
to be around.
Speaker 8 (04:57):
Man.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Absolutely where you call him from Carolina?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
As he said, no for South North Carolina.
Speaker 7 (05:05):
I'm gonna put you on hold man.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
I'm gonna get you in touch with somebody man that
you that you probably can talk to.
Speaker 7 (05:10):
Hold on, brother, can you give you an email to
a good psychiatrist?
Speaker 5 (05:13):
I know?
Speaker 10 (05:14):
Okay, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
You know that The sad thing is, you know, me
and my wife we do a podcast, case podcast where we.
Speaker 8 (05:20):
Take emails, and in the last two weeks we got
four emails from parents saying the same exact thing, you know,
like you know that they've been talking to their kids
recently and they've been seeing the change in their kids,
and their kids have been talking about, you know, suicide.
And these are the ages from eight to twelve.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (05:39):
And we tell everybody as a parent, like my father
went through my stuff, just to make sure if you
see any change, it's not Brian.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah, you're the mom, your dad.
Speaker 8 (05:49):
Go through the text messages, go through emails, go through
your kids stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
You would. You want to make sure that you're on
top of it.
Speaker 8 (05:55):
And like Charloumagne always said, get the necessary help took therapists.
Get help, like, don't try to do it on your
own because you know you're not professionally trained for this.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Get help and actually be happy that your kid is
expressing that they have an issue. You know, because some
kids don't express that they have an issue. They just
keep it to themselves and then they actually end up
completing suicide. Be happy that they're actually telling you, because
now you know that's a cry for help.
Speaker 7 (06:20):
So go get the milk.
Speaker 8 (06:21):
Absolutely eight hundred five eight five one o five one.
If you need the vent, call us up right now.
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Morning.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Everybody is d j n V. Just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy.
Speaker 8 (06:37):
We are the Breakfast Club. You got some special guests.
Speaker 7 (06:39):
In the building.
Speaker 8 (06:40):
Indeed, you have the cast of Harlem. I say your name,
Jerry Johnson and Tyler LEFLI welcome, appreciate how y'all feeling
this morning.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
That phenomenal, amazing study.
Speaker 15 (06:58):
Study.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
How many of y'all make sure everybody's house is good?
Speaker 8 (07:05):
Ok Okay, let's get right into it. Harlem is back
January twenty third on Amazon Prime. But sadly they say
this is the last season. Why so many people watch it?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
So many people are into it? How did they just
do it like that?
Speaker 6 (07:16):
Ask Fun Prime.
Speaker 16 (07:20):
It's really really sad, and I think like everybody's super
sad because we had so much story to tell and
so like, if we did have more seasons, this would
have the stories would have been so good. But they
did such an amazing job truncating it, bringing it down
into this final season. I think everybody's gonna be happy.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
But hopefully we get a movie.
Speaker 8 (07:39):
Okay, did y'all know it was gonna be the final
season when y'all started taping?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Did you know that already? Did y'all find a halfway through?
Speaker 13 (07:46):
I found no, not halfway through. I think I found
out a little late, but sometimes I'm in my own world.
But I found out the day of the reading as
we were reading it.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Now, going into knowing that it was the last season. No,
I knew it, but I hadn't read the last two.
Speaker 13 (08:03):
I thought they were saving the last two episodes, so
I didn't know, you know, And then as we were
reading it, I.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Was like, oh, no, this is it.
Speaker 8 (08:11):
Yeah, but did y'all been doing a lot on the
side as well?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Y'all been engaged? You ever having babies, losing?
Speaker 16 (08:21):
Yeah, it's true, it's true.
Speaker 8 (08:24):
So how were y'all doing all of that on the
side as well as taping the show?
Speaker 17 (08:28):
You know, what's interesting is that as we've been taping
the show, because we.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Started what you start twenty twenty, okay.
Speaker 17 (08:34):
Twenty twenty, and then we got like maybe three episodes in,
then COVID happened, and then we took a break, then
we came back, then we had a year off, then
we went through striking, all these different things. But during
the duration of all these things, we were experiencing life.
We were having all kinds of life changes and having
conversations in between, because not only are we, you know,
friends on the show, we're like sisters in real life,
(08:55):
but also with Tracy and then saying with Tyler, like
that's our brother, that's our family, but each one of
us were experiencing things that, you know, as Tracy spoke
to us, She's like, what do you think about this?
Speaker 15 (09:04):
And what do you think about that?
Speaker 17 (09:05):
And I know you're on this journey and you know,
do you mind if I implement this and all of that.
So so much of it is actually mirrored in the
show of what we were experiencing. So it kind of
made it seamless in that way, and you know, you
have a specific story about that, but yeah, just everything,
it just it feels like it was a part of
our actual, real lives.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
So what's your story with that?
Speaker 16 (09:23):
No, so we were talking about this, but you know
how Quinn goes through her depression journey in season two.
I did a lot of research on depression because it
wasn't something I was personally dealing with at the time,
but I wanted to reflect it in a very honest way.
So went through that, did that research, and then I
had the baby and then I was diagnosed with severe
postpart depression. So even when I came on the show
the last time, I was in the depths of that.
(09:45):
Didn't really realize the impact and how that affected me
until I started to kind of climb out of that. Right,
going through that journey with Quinn, it gave me a
space and I call it my help journal, like a
reflective journal, to look back on and say, oh, like
this was this was the way in which it was
showing up for Quinn. I didn't realize that postpartum depression
can show up as fatigue, as overwhelmed. We know about
(10:08):
the sadness, we know about all that stuff, but these
are some of the ways the mood swings. Didn't know
that that was a part of those things. And so
being able to play that and reflect that in Quinn
gave me almost like a map that I could go, Okay, grace, like,
this is how you can navigate.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
This did work help with her?
Speaker 16 (10:26):
It worse, No, it helped because it actually gave me
an enlightenment, right like, oh, this is what it could
look like. This is what And so even though I
was I was doing it for Quinn, you know, I
felt it on a different nuanced level when I was
actually going through it myself.
Speaker 15 (10:40):
Gotcha, how are y'all juggling the schedules though?
Speaker 18 (10:43):
Like now, because it's still is it's like y'all personally
flourishing business y'all flourishing?
Speaker 15 (10:50):
How can y'all because I know that the schedules.
Speaker 18 (10:52):
I mean, I know y'all said, it's been like two
years since y'all did this, But now y'all all got
individually a lot going on too.
Speaker 15 (11:00):
Can y'all still like, how y'all juggling schedules?
Speaker 16 (11:02):
We all start with Sian that one because she just
got us single.
Speaker 18 (11:09):
You know, I thrive when I'm busy, I really do.
I like the structure of figuring out my schedule. I've
become more detail oriented when I have a lot of
things to focused on.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
And I was very.
Speaker 18 (11:19):
Intentional about dropping feel my Love my new single after
the ending season two with a engagement or proposal, and
so I wanted to like balance that and have that
come out at the same time as the show because
I knew a lot of Harlem.
Speaker 15 (11:33):
Fans would be patting attention, but also just to like, you.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Know, maybe troll a little bit or.
Speaker 18 (11:38):
Make them question whether and you would actually end up
in this relationship because we don't get a yes or
no at.
Speaker 15 (11:43):
The end of the season two. Okay, strategy anything, you know.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
We're trying to have a rollout making you refer to
them as your sisters and your brothers. That does that
happen naturally because a lot of times, you know, people
want to keep things business.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
So that just happened naturally that this bond.
Speaker 17 (11:57):
It happened completely organically in the beginning from day one.
If I started with Schnik, well, like we were on
FaceTime a few years prior and I had never met
her before, and we just spoke and we talked about like,
you know what, one day we're gonna do a show together,
and we touched and agreed on the camera of the FaceTime.
And then literally years later, here we are both walking in,
we're both testing, and we're in the bathroom and.
Speaker 16 (12:18):
She's like, do you remember me?
Speaker 7 (12:19):
I was like from here?
Speaker 15 (12:19):
And she told me and I was like wait what.
Speaker 17 (12:21):
And then we ended up praying and crying in the bathroom,
and you know, there's that. And then literally with Tyler,
it was just immediate, like just family and just easy
or organic. Same thing with Jerry, it was like like
I've known her forever, like you know.
Speaker 15 (12:34):
And then with Grace, I called her, I was like, girl,
I'm getting.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
She was like, don't doubt me.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
You getting ready to.
Speaker 16 (12:40):
Yeah, Like for years before that, so that was exciting.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, is that the normal sex?
Speaker 15 (12:46):
It isn't always like that.
Speaker 17 (12:47):
And then you also you know it when it's gonna be.
Speaker 15 (12:50):
For women, you just never know what you're gonna get.
You hope that that is the.
Speaker 17 (12:53):
Experience, but you know, and we had talked about this
a few years prior, saying how it would be great
if we got an opportunity to work on a show together.
So when I called her and she was like, I
can't really, I was excited. It was like you just
knew that God was in it. And I have to say,
for me, this has been the best professional experience that
I've had in my entire career. You know, you know,
in a way, it's the end of a chapter, but
(13:13):
it's exciting because the way that we end the chapter
were really really proud of. And I think the audience
is going to get everything that they want to get.
But also I think that we got what we want
to get outside of having a movie.
Speaker 15 (13:24):
Additionally, but.
Speaker 17 (13:27):
It's better, I think to move this way where it's
you know, you didn't stay for too long, but you
gave everyone exactly what they wanted and needed, and I want.
Speaker 13 (13:35):
To give Meghan her props too, because she was a
great leader in setting the culture of our set. And
everybody who has come and guest starred, they've had a
really great time. But we learned from Meghan from Grace
like it truly.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Is a fun time. But also we have decided.
Speaker 13 (13:54):
We decided early on that we were going to stick
together throughout this situation, so nobody could say, you know,
this person was a difficult one, or this person was
this one, or because if there was a problem, we
all have the problem.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
If we all have it and we're on the.
Speaker 13 (14:08):
Zoom calls or whatever, and you won't know where the
source is, because we didn't want it to be like
somebody was pinpointed or somebody is And we promised each
other that if somebody says something to one of us
about the other one, we're not just gonna take it
at face value.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
We come into the source and saying, hey, did this
really happen.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
People do like.
Speaker 13 (14:28):
To like separate women and pen women against each other,
and so I think it was really important for us
to And this is my second show. I mean, I
was like six months out of grad school and I
booked this show, and the first time being the lead
in something and then to get to do it like this,
which is for me my manifestation, and to be like,
(14:48):
oh wait no, actually, for me, this can be the
norm of.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
The experience and y'all set the tone for that. I
thank you for.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
Being a student.
Speaker 8 (14:57):
We have more with the cast of hallm here making Good,
tal Aleplee, Grace Biased, Janiqua Shandai, and Jerry Johnson.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
When we come back, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning everybody.
Speaker 8 (15:06):
You'rj NV Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the God we are the
Breakfast Club. He's still kicking in with the cast of
Harlem Megan Good, Tala Leplee, Grace Bias, Shaniqua Shandai and
Jerry Johnson.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Charlamagne does acting allow y'all to just escape when you're
dealing with all of these personal things.
Speaker 7 (15:23):
Now you can just go be somebody else for a
few hours.
Speaker 17 (15:25):
It allows you to work through things, you know, past trauma,
certain experiences. Rather it's childhood, I mean, whatever it may be.
It allows you to have a place to put it
to good use and for it to be something that
someone else can watch or see and take from it
and go Okay. That made me feel not alone, or
that made me feel soon or understood. So I think
in a way it's therapeutic. I don't know if it
(15:46):
really allows us to escape, I get to each of these.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
Gets a little dangerous. So do y'all allow y'rselves to
lose yourself in a row?
Speaker 5 (15:54):
You don't?
Speaker 7 (15:54):
You don't can't go to there?
Speaker 6 (15:55):
You can?
Speaker 13 (15:56):
Because that's I think the if we think about like
some of our great that have lost themselves and then
we lost them. I was gonna say that, Yeah, it's
like when you go there, if you don't know how
to unzip that character and step out in order to
go home and not have that energy in your home,
it gets crazy. But also the body doesn't know the
(16:18):
difference sometimes, So when you go and when you're going
deep into a character and you're not doing those things
where you are separating when you get.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Home, your body don't know the difference.
Speaker 13 (16:30):
So if my character is going crazy, if I'm playing
the Joker and I'm really in there and I'm taking
the Joker home with me, my body don't know that
I'm not the Joker.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
If I believe it enough.
Speaker 13 (16:41):
And so sometimes you know it's good to be like
all right, I'm gonna give a cap on this, Like,
if I really gotta go there, I'm gonna go there
for the six months I gotta go there. But I'm
already planning all the things I need to plan so
that day I'm done, it's already set up for me
to release this. Whether I'm going to the ocean, whether
I'm wherever I am, whether all of my friends come
(17:04):
to my house to remind me of who I am.
I have to have something that reality sets me back
to who I am, or it's not gonna be it's gonna.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Be on my spirit and it's not gonna be good
for me.
Speaker 18 (17:15):
Then, speaking of then Jerry, where's Tie's head at?
Speaker 15 (17:19):
After she found out she smashed the mother and.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
She got to jump back into being.
Speaker 13 (17:30):
Yes, that's crazy, that's crazy, you know, to find out
something like that is like, how do you even deal
with that? And I think Tie decides because what I.
Speaker 10 (17:42):
Really want.
Speaker 7 (17:44):
Open.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I think Jerry is poly, but she's loved be Jon.
Speaker 13 (17:54):
Even though Jerry is Polly, I wouldn't describe Tie as Polly.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
I think Ty was really wanting.
Speaker 13 (18:00):
Something, but also probably in that moment, being greedy because
she was wanting something.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
But having something else.
Speaker 13 (18:07):
And I think sometimes if my intention is commitment, then
I have to go towards what that intention is.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
And if it's commitment towards one person.
Speaker 13 (18:15):
And I'm letting my energy fly, of course I might
end up with a daughter.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
I lost.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
I knew what was going on, and I was like, Grace,
how is motherhood changed you?
Speaker 16 (18:29):
I think what I did not expect was that I
was fully prepared to be like, I'm ready to learn
everything I can about motherhood and my child. I did
not anticipate that I was going to also go on
a journey to learn about myself, and so I had
to face things about myself in order to ensure his
well being. Right, So I had to go back to
(18:49):
my own childhood, go back to the things that you
know that I didn't realize that I was like holding
on to, or dealing with, or like simple things like
you know, like being being a recovering people pleaser. I
can't do that with my child. I will be so depleted.
I will not show up as the mother that I
need to be. So how do I then organize in
my mind? Like how do I prioritize myself for real?
Speaker 19 (19:11):
For real?
Speaker 18 (19:12):
You know?
Speaker 16 (19:12):
So like things like that that I didn't expect that
are really changing my life.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
Wow, are these moments bittersweet?
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Knowing that you know it's gonna be the last time
y'all probably do interviews together and thinks of that nature.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
They said, they talk about movie, they manifest the movie.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
So the last time we need a petition.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Is not this.
Speaker 18 (19:32):
Y'all could do something else, Yeah, because y'all are so grounded,
even as just outside the caves, just hearing y'all speak like,
you know, like even from the last interview that we
had with you, like so much growth, like not saying
that you you know last time right, No, well not that,
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but just I don't know, it's just it's zinful, it's tranquility.
Speaker 15 (19:58):
This is a whole bunch of all are very grounded
as a cast.
Speaker 18 (20:02):
So I appreciate it. Anything else not even don't have
to be all the or just you know, y'all can
write your own movie. I can directly, we can just get.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
It list.
Speaker 16 (20:14):
Come on here, like we really appreciate enough.
Speaker 20 (20:17):
And even just like you know, to all of us
before you know, as we're saying goodbye, I feel like
one of the biggest uh you know reasons it's not
a sad goodbye. It's like for a multitude of things, like, hey,
we have a you know, we have a great beginning middle,
and now you know, we knew are and we knew
who were landing at so like that's a beautiful thing.
But then on the flip side off of the script,
you know, because of the way we were able to
come together as a family, Like I feel like this
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is a you know, a lot of times when we
say goodbye to people, it's like a sad goodbye, you
know what I'm saying. But it's like, I really feel
like this is a you know, this is the opposite, is
almost like a happy goodbye.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 20 (20:47):
When we say goodbye, it's almost like we're raising the
trophy up, you know what I'm saying. So it's like
when I do, yeah, it's on a good note. So
when I think back about these times, it's not really
going to be a sad thing. You know, we're able
to experience together, share it with the world, and uh,
close the book at the right time.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Cause you telling, were not leaving like that. We're leaving
with your singles. So we don't record, we don't play
your record, you play.
Speaker 8 (21:07):
Your record, misgrace. I felt the God in you this morning.
We're gonna say a prayer before we get about here,
to say.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Good God is great.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
Eat on the table.
Speaker 19 (21:23):
All right, let's do it.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
Let's do it.
Speaker 16 (21:26):
Thank you, dear heavenly Father, Thank you so much for
this time together.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Lord.
Speaker 16 (21:29):
We asked that you bless the Breakfast Club. Lord, we
asked that you blessed our minds, their hearts or words.
Your Father, thank you for a form like this, or
that we're able to galvanize as one, that we're able
to come together in truth and honesty and love and
just celebrate amazing black work. Lord. We are so grateful
of this moment, grateful for this time.
Speaker 19 (21:46):
Dear Father.
Speaker 16 (21:46):
We ask that you go before us, that you make
the crooked pass straight. We ask that you continue to
uplift us in your spirit. The Lord, let us always
stay in your purpose and your will. Lord, We thank
you for your love. We thank you for your blessing
and Jesus name. We place amen, Amen may.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Because Harlem, it's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 8 (22:06):
Good morning, wake up, you're like's into the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Good morning.
Speaker 8 (22:11):
Everybody is DJ MV Jess Hilarius charlamage to God. We
are the breakfast club going. The roaster is here as well.
We got a special guest in the building. Where's Khalifa?
What's happening to my brother? See you in a minute,
not in person.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
I know it's been a while. Yeah, yeah, you've been
working out. COVID happened. I've been taking care of my kids.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
How are you?
Speaker 6 (22:31):
I'm amazing, Thank you. How are you?
Speaker 7 (22:32):
You're still doing the MMA and all that absolutely every day. Yeah,
you wake up and do it early in the morning.
Speaker 20 (22:38):
I have like a routine, so I go to the
gym five days a week. I do martial arts as well,
so I'm like lifting, martial arts, and I do hot
yoga three times a week. So I'll get up at
like six with my kids, take care of my dogs
and my kids.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Then I eat breakfast.
Speaker 20 (22:55):
Then I go to the gym probably around like nine ish,
you know, from nine to about one or two in
the afternoon.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
That's my program time. And then after that I got
the rest of my.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
Day program to smoke.
Speaker 20 (23:06):
No no, no, program is like workout, got yeah, yeah,
whatever the program is for the day.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
That's what I did stone.
Speaker 21 (23:13):
Smoking between all of that.
Speaker 10 (23:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
Yeah, No, I.
Speaker 20 (23:16):
Smoke on the way to the gym and then on
my way to the next event. Yeah, yeah, for sure,
I stay stone.
Speaker 21 (23:22):
How long have you been smoking now.
Speaker 20 (23:25):
I've been high for longer than I've been not high. Okay,
yeah consecutively. Yeah, you be doing the shrooms? No, I
quit doing shrooms. I did it for a minute, so
I don't really need I feel like I need to
keep doing them over and over.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
I'm glad you said need right, because I was going
to ask, what is your intention when you smoke weed?
Speaker 7 (23:44):
Nowadays?
Speaker 6 (23:44):
I just love being stoned. Yeah.
Speaker 20 (23:47):
I like the way it makes me feel. I like
the decisions that I make when I'm stoned. I like
the way movies look when I'm stoned. I like playing
with my kids when I'm stoned. I just love being high. Yeah,
off marijuana, though, marijuana, not anything crazy.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
The Cushion Orange Juice range juiced too. Yeah, great project.
I love the first time, second episode too.
Speaker 13 (24:07):
It.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
I really love the first app thank you, But it
got like a nineteen ninety now.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
G funk sound.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
Uh huh? For sure?
Speaker 7 (24:13):
Was that intentional?
Speaker 6 (24:14):
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 20 (24:15):
I think that was like the original sound of Cushion
Orange Juice. For a lot of people, it was like
nostalgic for the nineties or G funk or you know,
just riding around in the car going to house.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
Parties getting fresh.
Speaker 20 (24:27):
It just got that whole, you know, player vibe to
it and a little bit of funk to it as well,
just like the way the beats slap and the way
that the base is there. So a lot of the
productions Cardo Sledgern and E Dan and just the original
people who you know, put that sound together, so it
was really easy to just bring it back.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Yeah, I'm glad you like it.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
It slaps.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Thank you.
Speaker 21 (24:48):
You had announced in twenty twenty four that this project
was done and now it's here. Yeah, the release of it,
so is it traditional release to streaming or like how
you're going to do Because Cushion Orange Juice won, it
was like you do, did your own thing, you dropped
change the way people were listening to music at the time.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
Right now, this one's going to streaming.
Speaker 20 (25:04):
We're releasing it through BMG, and they've been really really
cool at letting me kind of just curate the vibe
and what the feeling of it is, and they understand
what the project is and we've had meetings you know, weekly,
just how we're going to attack it and you know,
make it last and making something real. So I've just
been really excited about updating, you know, the format. I
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think that's what's most important, especially for like being an
OG in the game, is releasing things with the times
how they are now, but also still being innovative as well.
And that's why you see, like in between I've been
dropping freestyles and doing a lot of stuff like just
entertaining my fans because I still have that freedom, I'm
able to do that as we get ready for the
album too, So just to put it all together and
(25:48):
make it current, I think that was the idea for
all of us.
Speaker 7 (25:51):
You know, April fourteen was the fifteenth anniversary of Chrissenards.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Yeah, yeah, I did hear that, So you did hear that?
Speaker 7 (25:57):
Yeah, album.
Speaker 20 (25:59):
I try so many albums and stuff like that, like
every month is an anniversary of another project, but fifteen years, Yeah,
that's tight, And I think we're really lucky to be
able to well, I'm grateful to be able to drop
you know, the sequel as close to as I did
with the original one. I feel like that's like a
sign that just you know, feels real now. It just
(26:20):
worked out like that.
Speaker 7 (26:21):
This is divine alignment.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Like that.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Do you remember your mind state April fourteen, twenty ten.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
I do. Yeah. I was just getting off tour. I
was in Miami.
Speaker 20 (26:33):
I was working on rolling papers the album, but I
already had Cushion Orange Juice done and I had been
hyping it up for a lot of months before, so
my fans knew it was about to come out. And
I remember just going to the hotel room. I was
in a nice ass hotel on the beach. I was like, yeah,
I'm about to drop it, and I just released it
from my computer that day. I was really I was
still am super confident, but I was really really like
(26:54):
super duper confident about the music and just my connection
with my fans.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
So that was the time to do it.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
Did it pistol label off? When you dropped it?
Speaker 6 (27:02):
I really wasn't signed at that point.
Speaker 20 (27:03):
They were kind of thinking about signing me, working on
signing me, But it didn't piss them off at all.
They knew how important it was for me to still
curate that organic thing because at that time I was
doing a lot more for myself than any label could do.
And it's still like that, like I promote myself, I
do my social media, I do my merch, I do my.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Marketing, I do all.
Speaker 20 (27:24):
I just give you a whole package and then you
could just you know, you look like a genius.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Well, cushion ar just changed everything though. That was like
your that's like your section eighty.
Speaker 21 (27:31):
That's so far gone that like beanded the tailor gang
all of the like we we were talking about it
before you came in. Like I remember the feeling when
Cushion Orangers came out, and like I was a senior
in high school and like they would throw parties where
you would literally come to smoke and only listen to
Cushion Orange Jeps, and like it was such a movement.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
I love that.
Speaker 21 (27:49):
It was like really such a movement.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
Yeah, yeah, that's what it was for. So it's good
that that happened.
Speaker 20 (27:54):
It was all intentional and it was like like you said,
that's like my you know, or my doggy style or
my illmatic Like I knew I had to make something
that was like that, you know, that was a good
one to be attached to. And yeah, it was just
I always tell people it's bigger than the music. It's
stuff like what you're saying, Like, that's what makes it
what it is. Like even this album now, it's amazing
music wise, but you can't just sit there and listen
(28:15):
to it.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
You gotta experience that.
Speaker 20 (28:17):
You gotta go to a beat, you gotta go on vacation,
you gotta kick it with the homies, you gotta hang
out super duper late.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
You got to hook up with.
Speaker 20 (28:24):
Somebody who you've been you know, or you got to
meet somebody who you never even understood, understood that with you.
That's what makes it what it is, And that's what
I'm excited for people to experience as well as the
music being good.
Speaker 7 (28:36):
People don't realize that though.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
When you put out music, music just provides the soundtrack
to whatever you're experiencing in life. Yeah, that's why you
can never argue with certain people about certain albums because
the time of life they were experiencing that album. Yeah,
you can't like when somebody says, oh, this is this
is going to remind you of Whiskally for cushion ards.
Speaker 7 (28:55):
Nah, right, I'm on something totally different than the more.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
Than twenty ten Exactly.
Speaker 20 (28:59):
It's personal Yeah, I think people do have those personal
moments or those life decisions and what you're listening to
at the time, definitely, you know dictates, you know what
your memories of that are, so it gets deep.
Speaker 21 (29:13):
Do you think that because I saw you have like,
it's twenty two or twenty three songs on the project. Yeah,
it's twenty two, I.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
Think, so full bonus record full five.
Speaker 21 (29:21):
So normally with people who put that many songs in
one place, it's like you think people are gonna listen
and start to finish. But like I and me listening
to it, I don't have any doubt that people will.
Do you think that the conversation that you're having at
the beginning and then the conversation you're having at the end,
is it cohesive or do you just throw songs on there?
Like how do you kind of flowing out of well?
Speaker 20 (29:38):
With this project, the last maybe four songs we put
out before the album came out. We use this method
called the waterfall method, where you put songs out and
then add them to the album later. That was a
conscious decision because I didn't know what people were gonna
want to hear, So those songs helped me dictate what
I was gonna do with the album, and I still
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like those songs, but they weren't exactly what you were
going to get from the full album. So I used
that as an opportunity to, you know, do some promo
and get the idea of the album out there. But
by the time you get the actual real album, those
eighteen songs are brand new. Those are an experience that
nobody has yet and that everybody's gonna get together. And
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that's where to me that more of the conversation is
is from the intro to the eighteen song. Yeah, it's
pretty simple. The whole album is just about keeping it
players motivational. It's get stoned, and there's songs for the
ladies and their songs to ride around to. So as
long as I'm in that pocket, the conversation is good.
In my opinion, I know what my fans want and
(30:45):
what they expect, so I didn't go outside of that
at all.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
We got more with Wiz Khalifa when we come back.
It's the Breakfast Club Good Morning. More than everybody is.
Speaker 8 (30:53):
Jesse larra Is Charlamage, the gay All the Breakfast Club
is still kicking it with Wiz Khalifa, Charlamagne.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Why a sequel left all of you that could be
hit a miss too, That's something.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
Yeah, I just again listening to the fans.
Speaker 20 (31:06):
Man, everybody was telling me like how much they missed
that sound or that pocket of what I was doing
at that time, or how much they enjoyed it. So
it's nothing for me as an artist to like, you know,
dig in my bag and get with the producers that
I trust and really not recreate that but do what.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
That sounds like now.
Speaker 20 (31:23):
But it's the same feeling though, like you know what
I mean, and I'm not scared to do that, And
it's all about the fans. It's offered them and it's
what they want, you know, Like a lot of nostalgic
stuff is coming back.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
And my era, like.
Speaker 20 (31:34):
You said, it's fifteen years ago, so it's way yeah,
it's way further removed than it is closed. So why
not just go ahead and just revisit something that was
you know, big to us and that people appreciate.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
The problem with fans though, they trickle and they don't
want you to grow.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
So so even though you've grown, like you're a father now,
like your life might be totally different than it was
fifteen years ago.
Speaker 7 (31:53):
They're like, no, I want twenty ten. Yeah, that's impossible.
Speaker 21 (31:56):
That sounds fling.
Speaker 20 (31:57):
I don't think it's impossible really, yeah, because I think
they just want the best. Like I can experiment and
I can sing, and I can do country songs or
pop records, but they're like, yo, we like when you rap,
or I could wear you know, high fashion and you
know runway stuff, but they're like, we like when you
wear streetwear.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
And it's not hard for me to just get right
back into that.
Speaker 20 (32:16):
It's like, Okay, I'm trying what I like and I'm
still gonna do that in my off time or if
I get an opportunity to do it, I'm gonna throw
a suit on it, and I'm gonna do a pop record,
but it's not gonna be my song. It'll be somebody
else's and I could still chart and perform it all
over the world.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
But for my fans, I'm gonna give them what they want.
Speaker 21 (32:32):
But you are Dad now data too, and making these
music and putting this project together, like it does still
sound like Whiskly for it's new and it's innovative, but
it's it's still the same feeling. How do you because
you are different, your dad is so different.
Speaker 20 (32:45):
Now Yeah, yeah, I just keep it one hundred Like
that's what I always did. I always just talked about
my life. I talked about my day. I talk about
my week. So like I've never run out of bars.
Speaker 21 (32:54):
What's it like doing this whole runner? So you got
your coachell.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
These dance they don't go nowhere, man, I need some
citys got.
Speaker 21 (33:05):
I saw you were you and Amy were dancing on
the side of stage.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Yeah, why are.
Speaker 21 (33:08):
People so mad that that's your girlfriend? Why I'm mad
that you deals with your girl.
Speaker 20 (33:12):
I don't think people were mad. I think people just
need clickbait. Like that's what the world we live in
these days. But I don't live my life based off
of that. I'm still gonna if I'm hearing some music
like I'm a dance.
Speaker 21 (33:23):
But you never have like kind of leaned into all
of that stuff though, Like you've always kind of like
just even if it was happening, you did your own thing.
But with what like people the clickbait stuff. So like
even when you were dating and Baroles now with Amy,
just people are really invested in your life because you're
such a big start and now your kids are growing
up and they're on social media as well too. People
just want to know things and they throw things on Yeah.
Speaker 20 (33:44):
I know I'm in control of all of that, though
I give them enough to you know what I'm saying, Like,
like I said, I don't live my life based off
of it. Yeah, but I know that people are nosy,
Like you haven't even seen my daughter.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
She's almost a year old. So I can keep some
stuff quiet.
Speaker 20 (33:58):
But this is the entertainment industry, so at the end
of the day, people are going to have their perception
of whatever whatever. But as long as my intentions are good,
I know I'm out here doing exactly what I'm supposed
to be doing, and nobody who really knows me and
loves me is ever going to be embarrassed by my
actions when I'm outside.
Speaker 21 (34:14):
So yeah, you won't be doing nothing. Really, how do
you talk to like a Sebastian's older getting older and
that which is crazy because it's just crazy to see.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
Him to get older.
Speaker 21 (34:24):
No, but it's literally like when you think about when
he was first born to now and just being a
fan and watching him grow, there's probably so much things
that you guys, decide when to talk to him about
or not talk to him about. But your celebrity, so
it's different. How do you kind of like what is
your discretion on, Like, here's what I allow him to know,
we're see or whatever, because you can't guard kids from everything.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
Yeah, we just keep it one hundred with him too.
He's a smart boy.
Speaker 20 (34:46):
And these kids are we were you know, grew up fast,
but they're growing way faster on the Internet and everything.
So it's just about keeping it real and you know,
just allowing him to make his own decisions as well.
Speaker 6 (34:56):
It's like I can tell you what to do, but
you know what's.
Speaker 20 (35:00):
And wrong, and just instilling that in him. And also
his friend group too. That's a real big thing now,
is his friend group. But I feel like just him
being a kid. He's a normal kid. He goes through
the same things that normal kids go through. He gets
in trouble at school. We have to get on zoom
calls with his teachers, Like all of it on a.
Speaker 21 (35:18):
Zoom call with a teacher. How is it, like, how
do the teacher react. I mean the probably use to
celebrity parents, they'd be.
Speaker 20 (35:23):
Cool, they be chill, Like I think it helps him
a little bit more too. They're like, oh, we get
to see what here, you can pass this class.
Speaker 7 (35:31):
How is it being a father of a daughter.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Now, I got four daughters, not his daughter, so I
know daughters bring out a different energy.
Speaker 20 (35:37):
Yeah. Man, it's it's super duper sweet. She's she's really
young still, She's only eight months, she'll be nine months,
so her personality hasn't come out yet. But it is
a little bit different having at a little girl. And
I'm older now too as a parent, Like I was
twenty five when I had Bash. I'm thirty seven now,
so it's just like a whole different mind state, like
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having a new child and it's a girl.
Speaker 7 (36:03):
It was crazy to watch y'all all get older. Yeah, yeah,
I remember that.
Speaker 21 (36:07):
Not kids get older.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Because you know what it is. And I don't know
if it's because of the Internet. I don't think we've
had another movement like that, Like when I think about.
Speaker 20 (36:18):
The you and Nick Kendricks and yeah, I feel like
like the twenty sixteen, like Uzzi and Cardy and them,
they they.
Speaker 21 (36:25):
Had a movement. But I will say it's because I
know what you're talking about with Uzzi, especially because I'm
from Delaware from Philly, but it was it's still just different,
Like I can't really describe it, Like the way that
the whole tailor gang and like how we were dressing.
It was really different.
Speaker 7 (36:38):
How often do you revisit the First Christian As now?
Speaker 20 (36:42):
I listened to it a lot because we perform it
a lot. Yeah, there's a lot of like festivals and
places where they're like, can you come through and perform
the whole catalog or give us three songs off of
there or something like that. So I listened to it
and I listened to it for inspiration too. Sometimes I like,
I sampled a couple of songs on this new one
from the old old one.
Speaker 6 (37:01):
I like threw it in there. You wouldn't even know,
but just to like keep the DNA.
Speaker 21 (37:04):
There, can you get can you tell me so I
can go about you figure it out?
Speaker 6 (37:07):
I got to do it again, exactly and again and again.
Speaker 21 (37:10):
Because it feels literally I said that it feels like
the original Cushion Oranges even though it's new music. But
and a lot of artists can't do that, not this
far apart. Hmm.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Yeah, I love how you keep Max B's name a lot. Yeah, Yeah,
he's on the new project.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
He's also one of my favorite artists as well. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
Yeah, did you speak.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
Here and there?
Speaker 20 (37:29):
Yeah, especially now that the album's coming out and he's
coming home too.
Speaker 6 (37:33):
Yeah, we talk here and there. It's nothing too crazy
to just be like, I see big Bro.
Speaker 7 (37:37):
How dy'all get him on the project over the phone. Yeah,
it's not as good as that.
Speaker 20 (37:42):
Yeah, was a voice note. It's easy to do it
on voice notes now and then just line it up.
Speaker 6 (37:46):
Like I told you, we manipulated music these days.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
So you take the vocal then put the beat behind it.
Speaker 20 (37:52):
Yes, I don't want people to start getting their friends
in jail on their records the.
Speaker 7 (37:58):
Whole album.
Speaker 20 (37:59):
I don't know how much. I don't know, but don't
do it. They out of trouble.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
The other thing I was gonna say too, Man, do
you see the moments in your life when like your
career just went up, Like for example, like when you
put out weed and boys, that's another level. You put
out the other black and yellow, that's another level, and
then see you again. Come on, that's every white person
in America's favorite funeral.
Speaker 6 (38:25):
Anthem, favorite funeral it is.
Speaker 20 (38:28):
Yeah, No, I look at my career, like like a
basketball player or something like that, like me being science
to Atlantic I did really well, like being a major artist.
Speaker 6 (38:36):
So I look at it like that.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
How do you feel about your children being open to
public scrutiny like on social media commenting, and.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
Yeah, no, it is what it is like.
Speaker 20 (38:45):
They're gonna go through that anyway at school, like they gouts,
snapchat and they be doing all that stuff at school.
Speaker 6 (38:52):
So that's just the world that we live in now.
Speaker 20 (38:54):
And like back in the day, we used to rip
on each other too, so we just didn't have the
computer to do it.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
But it builds tough skin, and it is what it
is like.
Speaker 20 (39:03):
I've always been able to still be confident in myself
and function and not crash out, you know, due to
what anybody says about me. So I feel like they'll
be all right.
Speaker 7 (39:13):
If it's the week whenever you feel yourself about the
crash out or like.
Speaker 6 (39:16):
No, no, no, it's not the weird, it's the confidence. Man.
Speaker 20 (39:19):
I breathe, I do yoga, I believe in myself. I
got a higher calling.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
And sometimes they might be right. I do look funny
sometimes my feet.
Speaker 20 (39:28):
My feet are ugly or not ugly, but messed up,
but like you can't get mad at like, you know,
people pointing out your flaws, because we're not perfect, so
if you point out a flaw, you might be right.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
We got more with Whiz Khalifa when we come back.
It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 8 (39:41):
Good morning morning everybody at CJ Envy just hilarious. Charlamaine
the god we are the Breakfast Club. Were still kicking
it with Wiz Khalifa, Lauren.
Speaker 21 (39:50):
Since you like, there are people that are younger than
you just in music that I'm sure call you about
different things, because creatively your music does inspire people like
you mentioned, but like just as a dad and in
a relationship, a lot of your stuff is public. Like
I saw a conversation an interview where I think it
was Ambert. She was talking about you guys had to
sit down Sebastian have a conversation. He found her only
fans or something like that. How do you guide first
(40:13):
of all yourself and have that conversation with your son,
But when your friends, your peers are calling you like yo,
my girl's doing this online or like whatever, what's your
conversation with people? Because you handle things so well and
so gracefully.
Speaker 20 (40:23):
Nah, I think I don't expect everybody to handle things
the way that I do, so my advice and sometimes
it's like man.
Speaker 6 (40:34):
Like that, that's just how it is.
Speaker 20 (40:36):
But you have to accept it and you have to
understand that that's a part of it as well.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
And it be like that sometimes.
Speaker 20 (40:43):
But we make these decisions based off of what we
think we can handle and what we can handle, so
or you're giving a lot of responsibility based off of
what you can handle and you don't even know you
ready for it like that. So if you really want this,
you're gonna deal with the good and the bad.
Speaker 6 (41:00):
I'm built for it.
Speaker 20 (41:01):
I know how to smile, I know how to you know,
put on a face in front of people who I
know might have talked on me or tried to cut
my throat or one up on you know what I mean.
But it is what it is. Well, I don't get
no further by exposing all of that. I get further
just by being me. But a lot of people ain't
built for.
Speaker 6 (41:17):
It like that. So you know, you really got to
be like that as a parent.
Speaker 21 (41:21):
Are you ever really ready to have those like really
public conversations with us like that's such a public thing
you have to talk about in your child to see
and then in private you have to deal with it.
But then also in public you have to deal with
it because then y'all talk about the fact that it happened.
Speaker 20 (41:33):
I think, like me, I just keep it pushing, like
as long as I'm good, Like in the household, you're
going to have to deal with that or things like that,
regardless if it's not even directly involved with you. You're still
going to have to have some type of conversation like
that with your kid.
Speaker 6 (41:49):
And it's not easy for anybody.
Speaker 20 (41:51):
So as soon as they start finding that stuff or
looking at that stuff or hearing things about you know,
it might be their parent, it might be their sibling,
it might be you know what I mean, it could
be whatever.
Speaker 6 (42:01):
There's no age limit to that.
Speaker 20 (42:03):
Either it happens through their teens, it's gonna happen in
their twenties.
Speaker 6 (42:06):
Oh I heard your son is out here.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Da da da da dah.
Speaker 6 (42:09):
Right, I don't even know.
Speaker 20 (42:10):
What that's like yet, But we go through the stages.
Every parent's gonna go through the stage. But as far
as publicly, I don't live my life for the public,
So I don't even like I don't even consider that
when I'm making my moves. I don't care, Like I
don't hear it, I don't digest it. It's not it
ain't it ain't real to me. And if it pops up,
then it's something that I could you know what I mean.
(42:30):
I'll deal with it in the moment, but it's like
I ain't tripping on none of that.
Speaker 7 (42:34):
Are you gonna keep secrets from your kids?
Speaker 6 (42:35):
What kind of secrets?
Speaker 7 (42:37):
Just in general?
Speaker 4 (42:37):
Like you always tell people that you know, you should
always have conversations with your parents because you'll find out
that they had a life before they were your parents.
Speaker 6 (42:44):
Yeah, I think having how old are your kids?
Speaker 7 (42:47):
Sixteen, nine, sixty.
Speaker 20 (42:49):
Three, Yeah, having a twelve year old, it's like I'm
finding out that they know way more than you.
Speaker 6 (42:54):
Actually think that they know.
Speaker 20 (42:55):
So it's hard to keep secrets when they're telling you
that they know that you thought that they didn't. No,
So it's like, damn you, there ain't no secrets, like
for real, for real you I didn't even know I
was gonna have to explain.
Speaker 6 (43:07):
That to you.
Speaker 20 (43:08):
But it's just part of it, Like because I think
the benefit of that is them not having to hear
it from somebody else. I was raised by my cousins
and you know what I mean, a bunch of eighteen
year olds and twenty year olds when I was his age,
so I was learning things a little bit differently, Like
the filter was totally different. So I would rather be
able to give my kids that knowledge than like the streets.
Speaker 6 (43:31):
Yeah, hell yeah, because it's gonna happen.
Speaker 7 (43:34):
What is a drake move with?
Speaker 20 (43:36):
What's a drake A very smart business decision? I know
that's right, That's what a drake move is.
Speaker 4 (43:51):
You know what I want to ask you too, Man,
You've been a mentor to a lot of great people.
And I recently saw this thing called the Mount Rushmore
white rappers and the good brother Mac Miller was on it.
Speaker 7 (44:02):
You know how. I don't know if you saw it,
but how did that make.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
You feel knowing that you was a mentor to him?
He's the greatest rap was Eminem, it was Mac Miller.
Speaker 20 (44:10):
They shouldn't be separating white rappers and black rappers.
Speaker 6 (44:13):
They're all rappers. And mac Miller is an amazing artist.
Speaker 5 (44:17):
Bro.
Speaker 20 (44:17):
Like I watched him, you know, come from just being
a kid in the studio to like really changing how
people digesting listening to music like on his own, And
of course we started. He started like kind of after
I was doing what I was doing, so it was
people associated me and him together like like I was.
Speaker 6 (44:38):
Doing that for him or something like that.
Speaker 20 (44:40):
But he was just inspired by what he was around,
and as soon as he like branched off and started
doing this thing, he gained his own identity, his own
fan base, his own expectations of what his music is,
and his own you know, love and legacy.
Speaker 6 (44:54):
For what his music is. So I love I love
that kid.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
It's been it's been seven years since Macpasz. Do you
have those moment you like here.
Speaker 20 (45:02):
It kind of still bothers me just because like he's
not here, like you know what I mean. And that's
the that's the part that sucks because it happened like
close to my birthday. So every time it's around my birthday,
they celebrating the well, you know, celebrating his life too,
so I'm always reminded. I'm like, damn, bro, that was
just like it's like sometimes when people pass, it's like yo,
that's bro, Like yeah, you never really it never really
(45:24):
sit sits well, like.
Speaker 6 (45:26):
You know what I mean. So that's one of them.
Speaker 7 (45:28):
Didn't shift anything in your life?
Speaker 20 (45:29):
Nah, not really, because I knew him personally, so we
would have conversations and you know, he was like, I think,
out of respect, everybody don't speak on like how what
he was dealing with, you know what I'm saying, So
we just like talk about his legacy. But it was
it was a lot to see him go through that.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
Just to see you smile mm hmm. Was that a
difficult record? No, okay, I like to make real songs.
It was it was, like I said, it was.
Speaker 6 (45:56):
In a moment, and I talk about my mom on there.
Speaker 20 (45:59):
I talk about like the original like what was going
on when I first started making music and I brought
it till now, and then I talk about my sibling
who passed away on there as well.
Speaker 6 (46:07):
So no, it's not difficult for me.
Speaker 7 (46:09):
Is it therapeutic in a way, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (46:11):
Yeah, I will say that.
Speaker 20 (46:12):
I think it's just like for me, I have to
talk about everything, like I can't just I can't just
give you like one side of like what's going on,
and a lot of people they may or may not
want to hear that. But for the people who do,
I make sure that that stuff is there, and I
make sure that it's it's current and that it's real
for them to go through too.
Speaker 7 (46:32):
Hey with is man, keep doing what you do. Man,
you are a blueprint.
Speaker 6 (46:36):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
Whether people realize it or not, you know what I'm saying.
From the music aspect, even to the entrepreneurial aspect, you
got strange weed, you got mushrooms, you got liquid death Liquid.
Speaker 7 (46:47):
Look with death that.
Speaker 19 (46:51):
For you?
Speaker 3 (46:52):
Oh my god?
Speaker 21 (46:55):
Explain that?
Speaker 6 (46:55):
How did you get involved early before they even took off?
Speaker 20 (46:58):
Like it was like hey, move bam and the whole
business thing and the whole you be a part.
Speaker 6 (47:04):
Of this, we do that and with Death.
Speaker 20 (47:09):
Yeah, this was Yeah, I've been I've been a part
of this company almost ten years now.
Speaker 21 (47:15):
Liquid that yeah, wow, every yes, that's so everywhere. The
first time I saw it, I was like, what why
are you drinking that? And then they explained that it
was water? Yeah, and I was like, oh okay, but
even the can in the way that is branded, it
just fits your whole esthetic. Yeah, that's what else do
you do business wise on the back end at Like
I mean, if you want to talk about it, like
there's a whole portfolio back there that the people might
(47:36):
not like.
Speaker 20 (47:36):
You, said McQueen, But we we're part of that whole
company though, the whole duce and bel air and all
of that.
Speaker 5 (47:42):
Oh.
Speaker 6 (47:43):
P f L as well. I don't know if you
guys have.
Speaker 20 (47:44):
Heard a Professional Fighters League, but I'm involved with them too.
We just bought Bellator's and UFC and there's PFL PFL.
Speaker 4 (47:52):
Yeah, yeah, I'm down with them too.
Speaker 21 (47:59):
Yes, I made it here.
Speaker 4 (48:00):
Come on now, it's easy for whiz y'all cool. I
came to see y'all Christians.
Speaker 7 (48:04):
Hey, you're about to go on to the tailor game World.
Taylor Gang in the world.
Speaker 6 (48:08):
Yep, Taylor Game in the world.
Speaker 20 (48:09):
Chris you Knowles used to follow me on all socials
TikTok Wiz Khalifa Instagram whis Kalifa x wiz Khalifah.
Speaker 7 (48:18):
It's wiz Kalief for the breakfast club.
Speaker 9 (48:20):
You're checking out the breakfast club.
Speaker 7 (48:24):
I was born to Donkey.
Speaker 6 (48:26):
It's the Donkey of.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
The bunch of.
Speaker 12 (48:34):
Today.
Speaker 7 (48:35):
That's pretty.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
Devil breakfast club.
Speaker 4 (48:43):
You're gonna get the dusky other day soon then, well,
sexy red Donkey of today goes to five Memphis Men.
Michael Sayanders eighteen, Rashawn Bryant twenty two, Jordan Smith nineteen,
mandre Cole May's eighteen and Desmond Subbery eighteen. All of
them have been arrested, and youngcle Shlin needs to let
(49:04):
all u y ns know something. Please please please stop
with the organize crime seriously, man, if you can create,
you know, a criminal enterprise, and you can also you
also have the brains to start some type of small business.
I'm just sick of hearing about young people coming together
to form drug rings and fraud schemes, even organized stuff.
If you can put so much time and energy and
(49:24):
doing the wrong thing, then you can put that same
time and energy into doing the right thing. Okay, you
youngins are not applying yourself properly, and you could be.
And that's what frustrates me the most. Okay, unity and
group operation is a musk. But why do we only
seem to see unity in group operation when folks are
coming together to commit crimes and this country not playing
with you? Okay, they are ready at all times. They
(49:45):
introduce you to their good friend Rico, and these five
Memphis men sadly are the latest example of that. Would
you like to know what the criminal behavior was Would
you everybody take a deep breath, Come on to a
deep breath because this type of organized crime triggering. Let's
go to the Miami Herald for the report.
Speaker 7 (50:02):
Police.
Speaker 11 (50:03):
Tennessee cops say traffic came to a halt at a
downtown Memphis intersection when five men leapt from their car
and began twerking before baffled motorists in Tennessee. It happened Monday,
March tenth, about three blocks east of the Mississippi River,
and the dancing was still in progress when a police
lieutenant drove up. What the officer saw was a twenty
sixteen Chevy Malibu blocking traffic at a green light and
(50:24):
four men twerking around the car outside. A fifth man
was spotted dancing on the car's hood. The five men
were taken into custody so the offense would not happen again,
and they were charged with obstructing traffic. The men ranged
in age from eighteen to twenty two. A motive behind
the stunt was not released.
Speaker 4 (50:41):
Five Memphis men got together to disrupt the lives of
law abiding citizens just trying to go about their day.
A vehecular blockade caused by booty. That's what this was. Hey,
Michael Rassan, Jordan Mandri Desmond. When you were scrubbing the ground,
cheeks the concrete, did you think about the ambulance you
may be keeping from getting to the hospital. Just got
a job, first day of work and they about to
(51:02):
be late because of your traffic tampering through torque terrorism.
This should be an episode of law on order tork
Victims Unit.
Speaker 7 (51:09):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (51:09):
Not only is this a criminal enterprise, it's a whole production.
You all probably had glorilla blasting, Okay, cameras out just
to synchronize routine of reckless rump shaking. Why first degreef
for loneius fraggle maggatry. That's what this is, okay, the
unlawful act of throwing it back in a way that
disturbs the peace, blocks traffic, and disrupts people's everyday lives.
(51:34):
Why we cannot let the ass cartel get away with this?
Are we really gonna sit back and allow an underground
network of professional rump shakers to disrupt society? People like
this don't think of anybody but themselves. The only real
luxury any of us have is time. People, Okay, because
it doesn't come back. So imagine you running late for
something important, rushing to pick your kids up, trying to
(51:56):
make your Brazilian wax appointment. I have one today, by
the way, and you're stuck in traffic because five grown
ass loose booty bandits decided to turn the highway into
Magic City Monday. They are all charged with obstructing a
highway or passageway. But I feel like this should be
a free cocase. This is a free cocase.
Speaker 7 (52:14):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (52:14):
There has to be a stiffer punishment for this organized
booty movement because this was a coordinated effort to weaponized
the wobble in public. Where is President Trump to signed
an executive order to stop discrete scripting syndicate?
Speaker 7 (52:26):
Huh?
Speaker 4 (52:26):
If he doesn't intervene, this could get out of control. Okay,
men will mimic this behavior all over America. This could
get out of hand. Do you really want criminal organizations
dedicated the torque related infractions popping up all over the country?
Do we really want booty trafficking?
Speaker 7 (52:41):
Did he? Don't you answer that? Okay?
Speaker 4 (52:43):
The illegal transportation and distribution of reckless working across state lines.
Speaker 7 (52:47):
Do we need that? Let's do better.
Speaker 4 (52:49):
Please give Michael saying this, Rashaun Bryant, Jordan Smith, mandre
Cole Mays and Desmond Subbury the biggest he hull.
Speaker 3 (53:03):
I have a question now, if this was back in
your day, and.
Speaker 7 (53:10):
Five went back in my day, like you, we wasn't
born in nineteen hundred and.
Speaker 8 (53:13):
Seventy seven, if five women would twork it in front
of you, would you mind?
Speaker 3 (53:17):
Would you call the police? Backing?
Speaker 4 (53:18):
First of all, I don't have time for your hypotheticals.
Let's deal with the reality of the situation. So that's
what's wrong with people nowadays. They don't never want to
deal with the reality of things. Let's deal with the
shared reality. Somebody show you this muck shot.
Speaker 7 (53:29):
Look at that. Don't get bricked up over there? Can
you see this?
Speaker 3 (53:31):
Just justice?
Speaker 4 (53:32):
Can you Can you see that somebody sitting in this
picture to jail.
Speaker 7 (53:36):
I don't want you to get bricked.
Speaker 3 (53:37):
Up over there, bricked up.
Speaker 7 (53:40):
Don't get bricked up.
Speaker 3 (53:40):
It was women.
Speaker 4 (53:41):
I mean, if you try to get somewhere, that's that's right. Like,
what are we doing? This thing got nothing to do
with the agenda of nothing? Why are you disrupting traffic, stopping
people's day Okay, we got things to do. You're just
hopping out of a twenty sixteen Chevy Malibu to twerk
in the middle.
Speaker 7 (53:55):
Of the street for what five? Come on, stoping? None
of to do agenda?
Speaker 3 (54:02):
Hey, you looking at the picture because I'm.
Speaker 4 (54:05):
Trying to figure out what they all identify. It's one
with redhead right then you know what, Hey, it don't matter.
There was an executive orders, right, you're right.
Speaker 3 (54:13):
You're right, right, all right, okay, Well, thank.
Speaker 15 (54:17):
This pride every day he's talking about, all.
Speaker 3 (54:21):
Right, well, thank you for that dog in the day.
Speaker 6 (54:23):
The breakfast Club.
Speaker 7 (54:26):
Yeah to Breakfast Club, Charlamagne and God. Lauren l. Ross
is here. Just hilarious, is here?
Speaker 5 (54:33):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (54:34):
Who's feeling in? For invY?
Speaker 6 (54:35):
Lauryn L.
Speaker 7 (54:35):
Rose is feeling in? Isn't he feeling in? He's here?
Speaker 3 (54:38):
I'm here, she's feeling in?
Speaker 7 (54:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (54:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (54:40):
He's a guest today though, because his new book Real Life,
Real Family with the Queen of the House Giah Casey
is out right now, how you feeling here?
Speaker 1 (54:50):
By being given the opportunity to write a book about
something that is the most important thing to me, the
thing I'm the most passionate about, the thing that brings
me the most joy family parenting, my household, our home.
Speaker 19 (55:04):
So yes, I'm very humbled.
Speaker 15 (55:06):
This is the second book. Yes, it's amazing. You know what,
let's just rewind it back.
Speaker 18 (55:11):
For those who don't know who is the kse Ccrew?
Where did that name come from? How did y'all get started?
Speaker 3 (55:18):
Do you remember the carew Yes? Our last name?
Speaker 7 (55:21):
What do you mean?
Speaker 10 (55:21):
No?
Speaker 19 (55:21):
No, no, But do you remember how we came up
with the name.
Speaker 3 (55:24):
Come up with the name.
Speaker 1 (55:24):
We were doing our first podcast and it was before
we were doing like the audio version of the video version.
It was just the audio version, and we started the
podcast without a name, and we sat there and we
kind of was coming up with like different names, and
one of us said, well, how about the k C crew.
Speaker 19 (55:42):
You know, our last name is Casey. We have a
whole crew of kids, a whole gaggle. What about the
k C crew?
Speaker 1 (55:46):
And then people you know, DMed us and emailed and whatnot,
and they said, yeah, we love that name.
Speaker 19 (55:51):
We love that name. So we decided to call ourselves
the k CY Crew.
Speaker 7 (55:54):
Amazing that it came about.
Speaker 21 (55:56):
And whenever you post on social you always hashtag the
create the Casey Crew. Yes, MV does as well. But
one of the things that you guys do really good
from the podcast to bringing it online is you pay
attention to the comments and the responses Kia. Yeah, and
you guys bring them into the podcast, but you also
reflect on them on social media. So I want to
read one of the posts that we pulled and I
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thought that this was great. You inspired me. This is
someone commenting to you guys, you inspired me. I wish
all parents had this level of intention, planning and vibe.
Truth is, most parents, moms are stressed, over worked by
trying to make ends meet, in harboring trauma. Therefore, it's
passed down to the children. You've passed down light and
love because of that and because of what you are
high five to all of the parents during their best
(56:40):
and you use that as a moment to talk about like, no,
it gets a little crazy over here, but oh yeah,
but it's important because when you if you've ever been
around your family, it is a lot of love and
a lot of light. But I'm sure on inside things
get crazy.
Speaker 19 (56:52):
Well, you know, that's a big misconception.
Speaker 1 (56:54):
People assume that because you live a certain lifestyle or
because you've earned a certain financial status that you don't
have the same problems that they have, you know, So
that comment really really stood out to me because she
spoke on the troubles and the trauma and the word
trauma that she used, and Rashan will speak on the
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word trauma sometimes he feels as though it's a word
that's overused, but it's a word that represents something that
so many people endure. The difference now is that we
have words to identify how we feel and what we
go through, and it's articulated. Because when our feelings and
our experiences are articulated, then you're able to communicate. People
(57:38):
are able to understand you, You're able to understand other people.
Speaker 19 (57:41):
You're able to have empathy.
Speaker 1 (57:43):
And compassion for other people because now we're all speaking
in universal language. Like the word triggered, like the word trauma,
like the word of gas. You know, these are things
that some may think are overused now, but yes, but
there is value there. There is value there because now
we can see each other, we understand each other.
Speaker 7 (58:03):
When you're trying to create.
Speaker 4 (58:04):
A safe space, you know, how is it to venture
into an unsafe space like.
Speaker 7 (58:08):
The comments, especially when somebody looks on the air every day.
Speaker 5 (58:11):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (58:12):
You have an opinion about every day.
Speaker 1 (58:14):
So I read every single comment.
Speaker 19 (58:20):
I interact. It started when I had a lower follower account.
Speaker 1 (58:25):
It started because I always felt that if someone follows me,
that's an investment. In a small investment, maybe, but it's
an investment that they put into me. And they're looking
at my content content, they're looking at my pictures. And
you left a comment, I want to respond back to you.
I used to respond to almost every comment, you know,
(58:47):
but then when my followers went up, I wasn't really
able to do that, and that was something that you know,
I had to take that on the chin. I wasn't
able to. But it's a sign of respect. And you said,
why do I do that to myself? Because I'm strong
enough to do that. I'm strong enough to do that.
The comments don't if they are negative, and I have
to say, I don't receive a lot of negative comments, thankfully,
(59:09):
thank god.
Speaker 19 (59:10):
But if they are negative, I look at it as insight.
Speaker 1 (59:13):
I might ask myself, why might someone have that perspective
to me? It feeds my mental because I'm a thinker.
I'm a deep thinker. I'm all over things. I love
to understand people. So for me, the comments are food,
and they also bring me happiness when they're good. It
lets you know that you're reaching someone, you're whatever it
is that you're putting out because it's in the sense
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of sharing.
Speaker 19 (59:35):
There's a lot of things that I don't share, so if.
Speaker 1 (59:37):
I choose to share and it's well received, then that's
a good feeling. I think that's why a lot of
people are on or part of the.
Speaker 19 (59:43):
Reason why a lot of people are on social media.
Speaker 1 (59:45):
You know what I mean, And I'm strong enough to
do so, and that's because of the way that I
was raised. I was raised to be a very strong
and resilient woman. It comes directly from my parents. I'm
fortunate in the sense that I can look back and
identify things about the way that I was raised that
(01:00:06):
created the individual, the woman, the mother, the wife that
I am, and it's for me. It's a very beautiful thing.
Both of my parents are no longer here, so to
be able to say, wow, when my mother did this
every single day, or when she took me here once
a week, or when she said this to me, and
those compliments and that the way that she fed me
(01:00:28):
and she fed my soul and the joy that I
experienced and the amount of fun that I had as
a kid, Like I loved my life.
Speaker 19 (01:00:35):
And it's not because we were wealthy. We were not.
Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
We're a middle class family. I'm from Brooklyn, from East Flatbush.
We weren't raised you know, like I'm from an urban area.
And it's not had nothing to do with money. I
had nothing to do with wealth. It had everything to
do with what my parents poured into my home and
the love that I felt. And that is what we
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put into writing this book. There's a lot of books
that we could have written, you know, so many ideas came.
Oh because Real Life or Love was a huge success.
It was a national bestseller. So it's like, go you
write a book about this. We said, we want to
write a book about family. It's what we know best.
It's what we know best. We've had so many ups,
so many downs, so many wins, so many losses, so
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many things that we thought we were doing right that
we weren't. That we had to regroup and make sure
that we were balanced, you knows, as a married couple.
Because when we didn't agree, it's like my way is better,
know what my way is? Better and this, you know,
we had to come to a meeting of the minds. Yeah,
you know what I mean. So a relationship, you know,
the relationship grew, you know, because we had to learn
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how to see eye to eye as parents. So there
was just there was many many ups and downs, and
we wanted to pour that all into a book, you know,
we wanted to let everyone know, like it's really that
village mentality. It's really that like we are a community,
especially our black community, because I'm black.
Speaker 22 (01:02:00):
Yes, yeah, yeah, for the record, for the record, Spanish,
but I know that you're well aware because you speak
to things of this nature often.
Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
But our history is being erased in schools and it's
being stripped away silently in society. So the foundation starts
in our homes. We have to teach children how to
identify themselves. We have to teach children that sense of
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belonging and they have to understand that they come from
something meaningful. And if you leave it up to society
to teach them that, you're going to wind up with
children that are lost, that are overlooked, that don't know
how to identify themselves, that get taken advantage of, and
that are susceptible to what society wants for them. So
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for us, our core, our nucleus, our foundation, our home
supersedes anything else in this world.
Speaker 19 (01:03:10):
We put our family first.
Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
When we come back, we have more week. Gia Casey,
our book Real.
Speaker 8 (01:03:16):
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Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
Is the Breakfast Club The Morning.
Speaker 8 (01:03:26):
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is out today. You can pick it up at Amazon,
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Speaker 18 (01:03:39):
Jess, would you say that you and and we have
two different parenting stuffs?
Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
Absolutely the more lenient parent.
Speaker 7 (01:03:47):
Who's the more lenient parent?
Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
It depends what it is.
Speaker 8 (01:03:51):
You know, everybody knows my dad is retired police officer
and ex military, So I'm disciplined.
Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
I was the yell of the screamer because.
Speaker 8 (01:03:57):
I said, so, Gia is a lot different, like seven hours,
like she wants to know why.
Speaker 7 (01:04:05):
Yeah, did you feel that? I thought she likes to
break down.
Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
You don't get it, You're gonna get it.
Speaker 7 (01:04:09):
By the end of the right exactly.
Speaker 8 (01:04:13):
So you got to think, really think before you speak
to up because she's like, all right, explain that, like
I just said it just because no, no, no, explain this.
But so I'm more like, because I said so, She's
more like, well, you can't go to the more because
of this, because this could happen. Explain your parents, because
now mine is my dad was like no, and you
didn't ask why, it just what it was.
Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
What it was you just figured out later is a
little different.
Speaker 7 (01:04:35):
I prefer the explanation.
Speaker 19 (01:04:36):
Yeah. So that's how my parents were with me.
Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
I knew that my parents were invested in me living
a happy, fulfilled and fun life, and we didn't go
lightly on the fund. And because I knew that at
the end, and my parents never said no just for
the sake of saying no. Because parents are overworked and
they are stressed, and the last thing they want to
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hear and they walk through the door is mommy, can.
Speaker 19 (01:05:02):
I can you take me here? Can you buy me this?
Can we watch this together? Can we go like flow down?
Speaker 6 (01:05:07):
No?
Speaker 19 (01:05:08):
And sometimes you say no, you don't even know why
you're saying no. That's not a good parenting. Technique. You
really have to take a moment. You have to take
a beat.
Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
We all have to take a beat to listen to
our children and be patient. And because I knew that
my parents were invested in me that way, I knew
that when they said no, there was a good reason.
Speaker 5 (01:05:27):
Yea.
Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
How do you make sure you're raising the kids out
of love and not fear?
Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Though that's such a good question, it comes with the explanations,
do you know what I mean. I don't tell them
you can't do this and you can't do that. Why
because I said so, Let.
Speaker 19 (01:05:41):
Me explain to you why. You know, sometimes we'll watch.
Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
The news together, you know, when they're at an appropriate
age at about nine years old. You know, I think
that they're mature enough to ingest certain things. So what
I do is I would record it on my DVR
and then cherry pick different stories that I think that
are appropriate, that speak to the protect the measures that
we take on them, you know what I mean. So
it's like, if I see a child abduction that's not
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too traumatic, I might save that and then show it
to a child that's old enough.
Speaker 16 (01:06:11):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
I did it with Madison, I did it with Logan
and I find that they take that into their adult
lives and they're very, very like Madison walks around like
a police officer.
Speaker 19 (01:06:22):
She has a boyfriend.
Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
His name is Andrew, and when they go into a restaurant,
she's the one that sits facing the door. She feels
like the protective force in that relationship because her head
is always on swoovel, you know what I mean. She
could tell you a car that was driving six cars ahead,
you know, and she's always paying attention to license plates.
When she was young, I used to go through like
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in case you get kidnapped scenarios because it's the type
of information.
Speaker 19 (01:06:50):
That can save a life. Girls are being taken. So
if you have.
Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
A young girl, it is very proactive to educate them
about the realities and the tricks and the cons that people.
You know, because even me as proactive as I try
to be, that whole technique with a baby crying outside
your house, I would I would be inclined to open
the door if I hear a baby crying and someone
that sounds like a mother yelling and screaming outside the house.
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I am that type of person, but me, but now
I am I am. I would my heart with my
I would be inclined to open that door. But now
with all the knowledge and some of the good things
about social media is that so much knowledge is being spread,
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so now we're consuming good information as well. So I
heard that, I'm like, wow, that's absolutely right. It jogs
your thinking.
Speaker 19 (01:07:47):
It makes you say, oh, wait a minute.
Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
I do have to put myself first, even if someone else,
a stranger, seems to be in need. I have to
prioritize myself, my home, my family. So you know, it's
it's important to spread information and to teach your kids,
even though it may be a little scary, but you
do have to do it in a way where it
doesn't incite fear.
Speaker 21 (01:08:07):
How y'all pick and choose? What do y'all like? What
y'all decide to be transparent about? Like it's just so
much your kids are getting older and they're like, you know,
like they they're wanting to walk by themselves with their friends.
Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
I would know if it was up.
Speaker 8 (01:08:17):
To me, I'm transparent with everything. Right has to hold
back a lot, like for instance, like with Logan, right,
Logan when he was in high school used to get
picked on all the time, but he used to get
picked on guess for what reason?
Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
No, because because Charlamagne, yes, yes, so.
Speaker 8 (01:08:34):
When you gave me to ask, that's why he gave
me the buck cake.
Speaker 7 (01:08:43):
Not much better.
Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
You know, I'm not about it used to be getting
made fun of course of that.
Speaker 8 (01:08:56):
So but the reason I'm so transparent is there's so
many things family and people dealing with the same things
would never want to talk about it scared to. So
that's why I talked about the orgasm thing in the
first book. That's why in this in the second book,
we talk about, you know, the time that thing from
the first and.
Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
Every view every.
Speaker 8 (01:09:19):
You want to do some right, no, even like in
this book we talk about the time that that U
Logan found a bloody condom at one of his friend's house.
Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
So he can't but he's comfortable.
Speaker 6 (01:09:32):
Why you're looking at that, It wasn't mine.
Speaker 22 (01:09:36):
He's like, oh he fout bloody house a.
Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Right friend friends and and he was like maybe nine
years old, nine years old, about nine years old, but
he was comfortable enough.
Speaker 19 (01:09:50):
To was in the basement and the little boy had
an older brother.
Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
Yeah, so she had that's what we had the sex
talk and had to have the sex talks with.
Speaker 7 (01:10:08):
Logan and that what kind of sex talk?
Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
Though it wasn't a backdoor sex talk.
Speaker 5 (01:10:13):
That ain't just.
Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
They got a full blown sex talk. They had to
understand because if you leave it back.
Speaker 7 (01:10:26):
That's what I'm really trying to figure out. Why was
the condon bloody? I'm really when somebody ran red?
Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
Like yeah, somebody, but.
Speaker 15 (01:10:40):
Somebody ran red.
Speaker 21 (01:10:41):
Don't be like a first time thing.
Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Yeah yeah, but no they at that point I found
that they were old enough and mature enough, and you're
they're encountering things now, these conversations are being had amongst
their peers, and I knew that if I didn't set
them straight, that they were going to be absorbing all
of this wrong information and wrong ideas. So I told
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him sex feels good. It's a pleasureful experience. God made
us that way because God wants us to reproduce. He
wants us to create offspring. So he made it something
that we would enjoy. But it's meant for someone that
you love, and that's the reason why. So they're like, oh, okay,
so what is it like and what did you say? Okay,
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if I'm being honest, I told them that there is
a penis, and there is a vagina and my son
Logan was like, so like this.
Speaker 15 (01:11:38):
I was like, yeah, something like that.
Speaker 19 (01:11:41):
I said, you know, some people look at it as
a negative thing.
Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
No, no, No, he really didn't know.
Speaker 21 (01:11:47):
He really didn't.
Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
He really didn't.
Speaker 19 (01:11:50):
Even like my eleven year old son right now, he
does not know. So when they asked me questions that
I don't want them to know about. And he's older
than Logan was.
Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
But now with I have a better grip on his
friends and a grip on what he's exposed to on
his phone and whatnot in parameters boundaries. So I'm really
abreast of what he knows and what he doesn't and
our lines of communication are way better.
Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
Yeah, we have more with Gia Casey when we come back.
Our new book, Real Life, Real Family is out today.
It's a Guy to Raise It in Powered Children and
it's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 7 (01:12:23):
Good Morning, the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
And Jesse Lari and Charlamagne the God.
Speaker 8 (01:12:32):
We are the Breakfast Club. Long LaRosa is here as
well as we're kicking it with Gia Casey. Our new book,
Real Life, Real Family is out today. You can pick
it up at Amazon, Bonds and Nobles, or Audible.
Speaker 18 (01:12:43):
Jess, you have six kids, so is there anything that
you felt like in the beginning, I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
And until y'all got to that six.
Speaker 19 (01:12:52):
Kid, of course, yeah, Like what were some of the
I'll give you another.
Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
Thing, but you didn't know. You just was like, well
man and Raseean winging.
Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
This, I'll give you an example. So one of the
fails and this was something that we disagreed on. So
it was the explaining everything to the kids. I have
the patience to do it. And he really is a
because I said so type of guy and it worked
beautifully with Madison, but with Logan from a young age,
I would explain everything to him and he's a mama's.
Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
Boy times thirty, you know what I mean.
Speaker 19 (01:13:24):
Like we're very very close.
Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
But it kind of went wrong with him because what
we found was that we created an environment where he
felt that he was entitled to an explanation and he
felt as though because we gave him too safe of
a space, that he could challenge me and he can
challenge a decision that I made. So we had to
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dial that back to boundaries and then we had to
teach boundaries and let him know his place. So that
was a fail in a sense. And Rashamad always look
at me like, see I told you, Like see I
told you, because.
Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
He's the bad guy, because now I got to go
discipline that. So now me and Logan get into it.
Speaker 7 (01:14:07):
And now you can't beat Logan because Logan.
Speaker 8 (01:14:11):
So now I got a discipline Logan, and then me
and Logan get into it. But one thing about Logan
and all of our kids, which is the craziest thing,
is they're very forgiven. Like with Logan, I have to
get sometimes so disrespectful for him to understand. And the
next day he's like, hey Dad, what's up. And I'm like,
hey Dad, what's up. But that's how he is, and
he just has conversations. But we have those conversations and
we understand and we talk. But he's he's the one
that just like his mom love.
Speaker 7 (01:14:33):
Did y'all have a family mission state?
Speaker 6 (01:14:35):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (01:14:36):
What is the mission statement?
Speaker 8 (01:14:37):
And tell people the importance of that, well, just so
we know we don't have it on our wall and
then make the kids read it when they walk in
the house.
Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
It's it's not like that.
Speaker 8 (01:14:45):
So our mission statement is just something that we, you know,
as a family, we all live by, right and I'll
read some of them. And the reason is is we
are a close unit. Right, So if you see us together,
we're all always out together. You see me the other
day with Jackson, You've seen me before for so the
misterstatement is we are a unit, right. We all ride
together like we are really a unit, a unit. I'm
an only child, so I'm heavy into taking care of
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each other. We respect each other, of course, simple like
we make sure that you know, we respect each other's feeling.
We always have each other's backs. That's one thing that
we always do, and it's you know, sometimes when we
have conversations up heare, I always talk about my kids.
Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
So when they see stuff on social media at.
Speaker 8 (01:15:22):
Times I have to stop them because they will go in,
especially Logan Logan, Oh yeah. We always love to uplift
each other and point out the good in one another, right.
We see that more especially with our girls in dance
because they compete against each other a lot. So when
they do, we have to make sure that regardless of
what happens. Like a couple of weeks ago, London lost
and we thought London got jerked. So I told you know,
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I had a conversation with Brooklyn and Brooklyn was like, Dad,
don't worry, I'm gonna get first the second four. And
she went out there and busted.
Speaker 7 (01:15:48):
Ask that first second.
Speaker 19 (01:15:49):
She got first place, and you know, gave the.
Speaker 8 (01:15:52):
First place to her sister because that's what it was.
We represent each other at all times. That's how it
always is. So we always tell our kids if we're
not there, you make sure that those parents come back
and say, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
He was such a pleasure. He was polite, he was
this even with Jackson at the game.
Speaker 8 (01:16:06):
You know, Jackson said thank you a million one time,
so you said hello million one times, because that's what
he's taught to do.
Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
That you show respect with that.
Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
My goal for my kids is that when they leave
our house, I want everyone that they come in contact
with to know that they're well loved. What we teach
you inside this house you exemplify outside of this house.
And these are things that a lot of parents don't
put into perspective when raising.
Speaker 19 (01:16:31):
Children because what do we usually do. We take, like,
you know, an idea, and we throw it up against
the wall. We see if it sticks or not. You
know what I mean, Oh that worked, Oh that didn't, okay,
But a lot of.
Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
People don't have something tangible that they can go back
to and be like, this is a way to create
a foundation, this is a way to create a structure.
And because we had so many ups and downs, we
were able to do that and put it in one place.
Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
And I think the biggest story I now you hate
want to tell a story was Jackson.
Speaker 5 (01:16:58):
Right.
Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
So, we had a parent teaching night a couple of
weeks ago and a teacher came up to me. Teacher,
I had no idea you know who he was night Right.
So he walks up to me. He was like, are
you Jackson's dad? And I'm like, yeah, what a teacher
usually asked that usual bs right? So I'm like, oh,
here we go.
Speaker 7 (01:17:12):
What did Jackson do?
Speaker 8 (01:17:13):
And he was like, I just want to tell you,
you know, Jackson did something that no child or adult
has done in my life. The other day, I'm walking
down the hall that Jackson comes running.
Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
Up to me and he goes, you know, are you okay?
And the teacher was like, what do you mean? He
was like, you just don't look as happy as usually do,
or you are right? Is anything bothering you?
Speaker 8 (01:17:27):
Would you like to have a conversation with me and
just talking through like what he's like, Now you just
don't seem as happy as you do, but don't let
things stress you out. Just pray on it and tomorrow
be better, right and if you need to talk to me.
Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
Come talk to me.
Speaker 8 (01:17:42):
And he said Jackson ran off and he was like,
I've never had an adult or a child ever do
that to me. So he was like, whatever you're doing
at home, continue that, and you know, I mean that
just shows what the kids are learning at home is
worth everyone.
Speaker 7 (01:17:53):
So you need to report that teacher too. He don't
need to be in the school.
Speaker 15 (01:18:00):
Was like, you got some time.
Speaker 7 (01:18:08):
There's such a beautiful thank you, you know, have you?
Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
Thank you for pulling up and for everybody else. We
just want to add this last part.
Speaker 8 (01:18:20):
We actually wrote it with somebody that helped us out
with MS and helped us with different phrases and helped
us with made sure that we were actually doing the
right thing when it came to raising our kids.
Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
Yes, so we wrote it alongside a psychologist because yes,
because we wanted to make sure that our outlooks were
were on the level that I would.
Speaker 19 (01:18:40):
Want to put it out to the public.
Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
I wanted the psychological research and quarterbacking behind the way
that we parent to pretty much put a stamp on
it to know that what we're doing not just from
our personal experience driven point of view is sound, but
from a psychological point of view is also sound. I
wanted to make sure that alongside the truth and the
transparency and the experience that we had that backing to
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the book as well. I wanted that level of value
in the book as well. So and also, you know,
if you have a child with anxiety, add ADHD, other setbacks,
other disabilities, you know, we speak to you in this
book as well, because those people are very like they
don't have that many resources.
Speaker 19 (01:19:23):
This book is for anyone who is a parent, a
single parent, a parent.
Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
That is married, maybe about to have kids next time,
someone that.
Speaker 19 (01:19:31):
Wants to have a child. Thank you, It's it's it's
it's forever.
Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
It's a very relatable book, and there's a lot of
exercises in the book. We kind of also created it
in like a workbook style, so there's a lot of reflections.
There's a lot of places in there for you to
answer questions so you can kind of analyze yourself and
understand your own point of view in a way of
like articulation, where if you haven't really thought about certain things,
it'll jog you to think about things. And even if
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you don't do, don't take our take, it encourages you
and helps you to come up with your own takes
on parenting.
Speaker 7 (01:20:06):
So happy to real family. Casey crew is the breakfast Club.
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You're checking out the breakfast Club morning.
Speaker 8 (01:20:15):
Everybody is DJ Envy, Just Hilarius, Charlamagne, the gud.
Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
We are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 8 (01:20:20):
La La Rosa is here and we got some special
guests joining us this morning. We have Dante Banks and
we have Kevin Freeman. Welcome fellas, how you guys doing
this morning?
Speaker 7 (01:20:30):
Tell the people who, well, who y'all are, first of all,
so they get some context.
Speaker 23 (01:20:34):
I'm Dante Banks, I'm Little Dirk's father, and I'm Kevin Freeman.
I'm the executive director for Little Dirk's non profit Neighborhood Heroes.
Speaker 7 (01:20:42):
Okay, well, how was Dirk doing? First and foremost?
Speaker 5 (01:20:45):
Are you doing? Great? Wonderful? I just seen him this Sunday,
past Sunday. The spirit is off. You're looking forward. You
know his day in court freedom as you know, as
it's going to turn out to be, you know, releasing him.
But he's doing great. Long in there.
Speaker 8 (01:21:01):
Now you have a story as well. For people that
don't know your story, you want to put them onto
a little of your story. And who quote unquote Big
Dirk is.
Speaker 5 (01:21:08):
What Big Dirk is known in Chicago, in the streets
of Chicago. Not for good, you know. But back in
nineteen ninety three, I got called in the fest myself
caught up in the fairs, and I received a life
sentence and it took me almost twenty four years of
twenty six years to get up out of there. So
I spent most of my life, more life in jail
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than I did on the street.
Speaker 21 (01:21:33):
What was it like, you know, when you were locked
up in Dirkys here? What was out And he's climbing
and he's rising as a star, and you're like you're
seeing it, but you're not seeing it, but like you're
kind of you're calling home, you're feeling it.
Speaker 6 (01:21:44):
Like what was that?
Speaker 5 (01:21:44):
Like? Oh, that was amazing. At first, I'm on the
phone as any father, would you know, go to school,
get a trade, go to college, you know, get a trade.
That's I don't want to hear about it. While everybody
said it gonna be a rapper, you know, everybody said
even to play ball and different things like this. You know,
that's every kid's dream. So I didn't really take it seriously.
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I'm focused on what I know to be a true career.
You're trying to get something up under your belt, and
every time I want to rap, I want to rap.
And then I asked his brother, his oldest brother, which
was d thing at the time, Donte Banks Junior. I said,
is he good?
Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
You know, is he good?
Speaker 5 (01:22:22):
Is he gonna go anywhere with this? He said, yeah,
he's good. And then it was on one old What
was that one O six in part? I'm in prison.
I look up there, I'm be on one O six
in part and I said, okay, everybody in prison, he's
gonna be on one o sixth part. So every TV
is on one O six in part. We waiting on him.
And then that's when we found out, Yeah, he he
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got a little bust bus, got a big bus.
Speaker 21 (01:22:47):
And I see you, like, even just in talking about it,
you're smiling, and it's just I can't imagine, like, you know,
just as a parent, it's like I want my child
to be successful and it's happening, and then you're in
a predicament that you're in and seeing it. It feels
good to know that, like he's carrying the family and
things are working out, and then everything that we are,
you know, seeing now happens. How did that feel when
you hurt when the indictment come down and things of
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that nature.
Speaker 5 (01:23:09):
You know, from being in there and knowing what he
up against, now you run right there so I can
be with him to help him through this, because being
an affairs ain't no small task, you know, this is
a big thing. They don't they don't give no room.
They just snatch you up with it almost and put
you in a hopeless situation. You know, everybody goes in
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kind of got to fight their way out to show
and prove that this is what it is. But you know,
it hurts to know that he has to go through
what I just went through. I have to deal with
this system now. It hurts real bad, you know, first
losing the oldest son and to the streets, and now
losing him to the government. You know. So that's why
(01:23:50):
I'm their hands on, lawyers, hands on with him, telling
him every step of what to do now and how
to fight this.
Speaker 7 (01:23:56):
Being a person of faith, you know, you know allis
the us knower and planning. But when you lose your son,
you know, to to murder, and you lose the son
to the to the jail system, how does that make
you feel like just your faith? How did that test
your faith?
Speaker 5 (01:24:10):
Oh? It's test your faith. Will test your faith in
a way that's you have to be a parent to
understand what I'm saying here really tests you, you know.
But just like you said that faith, you know, everything
belongs to a law. They don't actually belong to me.
He just used me as a vessel, but it belongs
to him. So I just got to be patient for
what's going on here and trusting him and continue to
(01:24:30):
make it do out with your supplication that he brings
about the victory that we are looking for in the situation,
a relief that we're looking for.
Speaker 8 (01:24:37):
I also I wanted to ask about his case so
much because the dirt that we knew that I knew
personally he was such into giving back.
Speaker 7 (01:24:45):
Right.
Speaker 8 (01:24:46):
He would call all the time about the things that
he wanted to do for Chicago, in the area that
he grew up and the things that he wanted to
change and how he wanted to give kids an opportunity
that they would think more than the street and have
things to do.
Speaker 3 (01:24:58):
So what is allzation.
Speaker 8 (01:25:00):
Is his organization still out there being able to help
or is a lot of those funds and things been
pulled from that?
Speaker 6 (01:25:05):
Absolutely?
Speaker 23 (01:25:06):
Absolutely, And so this didn't just happened yesterday, you know,
sitting down with Dirk Banks, you know, I remember the
day when he was like, keV, you know, this is
my vision. This is what I want to do. Because
he was already doing the work. He's like, Okay, but
let's let's do it for real, for real, And we
say for real, for real, let's get a registered five
oh one C three and let's really truly, you know,
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look at the impact that we can make. And one
thing that we landed on is still to this day.
It's like, Dirk, this is your vision. This is your vision,
and it's going to be our jobs. When I say
our jobs, my job, the board of directors and those
that support, we're going to help bring it to life
and to be able to look back and see from
twenty twenty and all the amazing work that he's done.
(01:25:47):
And as you know in media, you know, a lot
of folks don't want to talk about the great things
and the positive things that individuals are out here doing.
Speaker 6 (01:25:55):
And he didn't do it for that.
Speaker 5 (01:25:56):
He did it for the fact that he know that.
Speaker 23 (01:25:58):
He said, keV, these are things that I wasn't able
to experience when I was a kid. So now that
I'm in position to do it, I'm all in, let's go.
I'm the voice. So I'm like, all right, So sitting
with him, I mean all around the clock. When I
say around the clock, I mean, as you know, he's
coming from the studio at three four in the morning.
He's calling like, listen, this is what I want to do,
(01:26:19):
and I'm digesting and I'm saying, okay, from all the
things that I'm hearing, all the things that I feel
your passion. We created four foundation pillars based off the
things that Dirk Banks was truly invested in wanted to do,
and it started off with neighborhoods, prosperity, emerging leaders health
and wellness. So with all those four different pillars, there's
(01:26:41):
a bucket of work that lives within everyone. So everyone
can't be the next little dirt, but everyone can't be
that guy behind the production and this is exposing these
young black boys and girls that Dirk has been doing for.
Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
A long time.
Speaker 21 (01:26:55):
I was going to ask y'all the last thing that
he did before he was taking into custody. It was
the big prayer event that he had and then he
received the keys to the city. But the mayor, I
believe it was the mayor got a lot of backlash
after he was arrested, and I think, you know, there
were certain people and things that like step back. So
how hard has it been because the organization is tied
to Dirk, Like, are y'all facing opposition or people still like, no,
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we know he's a good person.
Speaker 23 (01:27:18):
You're going to face the opposition just being a young
black artist, a young black man, a young black woman.
There's always gonna be trials and tribulations. And if we
allow one situation like that to stop us what we're doing,
and we're losing the focus of what his true mission was.
Speaker 8 (01:27:37):
Yes, all right, we have more with Dante Banks and
Kevin Freeman when we come back.
Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
Of course, Dante Banks.
Speaker 6 (01:27:42):
Is little Dirk's father. It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (01:27:44):
Good morning morning, everybody. You see j Envy, Jess Hilarious.
Speaker 8 (01:27:48):
Charlamagne the gud we are the breakfast club. Lorla Ros
is here as well. We're still kicking it with Little
Dirk's dad, Dante Banks and Kevin Freeman, who was the
executive director for Little Dirk's non profit Neighborhood Heroes Building.
Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
Now, can you give us an update on Dirk's case?
Speaker 5 (01:28:03):
Yeah? Now, one thing I can said, Well, y'all had
the question. Y'all ask Kevin how people looking at him? Now?
It ain't a place I go. It's not a place
that I go. A phone call and I don't get
what he get one support. Ain't nobody like turning a
back on him. We're saying nothing negative about other than
you know, a little blob here and now or a
podcast who's trying to get some type of recognition about
(01:28:24):
saying some negative about him. But overall, ninety everybody's there
in a pridy support. You get many, many letters, you know,
keep your head, keep going on, You're gonna get up
out of this, you know, things of that nature there.
So the support is one hundred percent. And I love
that about him because that tell you what kind of
person he is when no one is trying to, you know,
(01:28:47):
look at his downfall to something that we can now say, Hey,
look at him, we told about not this type of
thing here.
Speaker 7 (01:28:53):
What do y'all when y'all call out here and y'all
do these press hits? What are y'all hopes?
Speaker 5 (01:28:57):
What are y'all trying to do? We're trying to bring
a a real look, what's really? What is junior?
Speaker 6 (01:29:03):
I call him junior?
Speaker 5 (01:29:04):
What is him? What are he supposed to be looking?
You know how you supposed to view him? Don't take
allegations and make him a fact. Don't take allegations and
make it a conviction. You know, allegations are just that,
these are allegations. Give us a chance in court to
prove ourselves. Give us a chance, you know. And this
one thing again, we shout out the mayor of Chicago,
(01:29:25):
Brandon Johnson, when they try to attack him, he said,
don't give the brother his.
Speaker 7 (01:29:32):
Process.
Speaker 5 (01:29:33):
You said, give him his chance in court. And it's
what we actually about, give our chance in court. And
we approved that all of this there's nothing but falsehood
and alive.
Speaker 21 (01:29:41):
You know, wait, when you talk about going places and
wanting the conversation to be just fair for him, even
if people are gonna have their opinions, how hard is
it for you? And you can answer this if you
want to. I know, it's a legal situation. So for instance,
like I know, I've seen reports of like there were
like text messages that allegedly were like between Dirk and
the guys who are who they threw the murder charges
(01:30:06):
at for the thing? And then they have the verse
from his song aha, and they're trying to pin that like, yo,
this is you saying what you did? How hard is
it to go up against stuff like that? Just because
legally they're talking about that every single time he goes
in the court.
Speaker 5 (01:30:20):
It's not hard if you get all the information, but
I will refer I have to refer all these things
to the legal team because you know, this is some
of the things that they would have to answer and
give a little people understanding. He got three great lawyers
on the case, you know, so they working around the clock.
They constantly keep us updated. You know, I talk to
them regularly about the case, and so it's going good.
(01:30:44):
You know, all these text messages, these these things. Here
they on top of all this, and like I said,
give them his day in court and they approved. You know,
what's what? What's the real truth? About these text messages, right,
how confident as a Muslim, I'm confidence a law that's
a muscling and I just continue to make do uh
(01:31:04):
that this that were victorious in this case, and you
know that a lot of grant us the relief that
we are seeking out of us. So looking at everything,
it's weak, but we make sure continue to a lot.
Speaker 8 (01:31:17):
What about with the with the government, because you know,
the government, as we've seen what many cases before, if
they play a nasty game where they try to make
somebody look crazy so that the jury looks at them
as crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:31:29):
From the start, you know, I mean we see that
a lot, a whole.
Speaker 5 (01:31:31):
Lot, and hood on the the person that's been in
the belly of the beast, you know, I know, the fixing,
the game they they That's why, like I said, I
stay on this case looking at from every angle, cause
I know they games. I know what they play. I
know they lives, they deception. I know they'll create something,
you know, and creates a witness, you know, out of somewhere,
(01:31:53):
out of blue and if it's somebody come along, don't
nobody know who, just do and they'll put them up
there to say some things. So yeah, I definitely know
about them.
Speaker 21 (01:32:02):
And I know y'all brought up India earlier and we
found out that they were married through like the new
music and the photo on the album. What conversation do
you and Dirk had before he decided to get married?
And like what are you talking to him? As dad?
You know what I mean? Like what advice are you
giving him? Or you know how what's that like?
Speaker 5 (01:32:18):
Okay? Now as a Muslim, cause it's different for you,
right right, You got to get married. You cannot like
you sleep with a woman that you're not married to. Oh,
these are my conversations to him. You have to be married.
It's a great saying in his mom If you're not married,
we don't believe in for ication, we don't believe in adultery,
(01:32:39):
you know, sleeping outside the marriage and different things like that.
If you an interest in his sister, then let her
know who marriage that you're ready to take on the
responsibility of a husband. Oh yeah, all right?
Speaker 4 (01:32:51):
As a Muslim, are you on him about the content
of his music? Like if you know he beats his situation,
it comes home. Are you gonna tell him that musically
he should go in another direction?
Speaker 5 (01:32:59):
He told me, Oh, he told me. So I'm just
keep saying, How'm to a lie? Every time I talk
to him. He's learning more about his line and what
he supposed to be doing as a Muslim.
Speaker 7 (01:33:10):
What do he say?
Speaker 5 (01:33:11):
And he's saying that, Hey, I can't talk about these
things no more. I can't walk this way of life
no more.
Speaker 10 (01:33:17):
You know.
Speaker 5 (01:33:17):
So he already on point with all of you know,
and that's one of the things about you know, prison
give you time to really reflect, think, you time isolation
to read, study, So now you're able to you know,
you ain't distracted about these brother things. You know. This
is a this is a star, this is an artist.
He on the planes all the time, He moving all
the time, from the moment he wake up to the
(01:33:38):
moment he go to steep. He always doing something. So saying,
you know, he took his card that he became a
Muslim in prison, I mean at the prison when he
came to see me. But then this his life took
off from there. So now he got a chance now
to study. So everything that he needs to know, he
learning it right now. So he knowing, he telling me
like that, I can't talk about that no more. I
(01:33:59):
can't do this no more. I'm glad that I got married.
I'm glad that I went this the ration right here
because he's trying to see now.
Speaker 8 (01:34:07):
Wow, we'll definitely send him, send him out love man
and tell him that, you know, we we'll continue to
pray for him, man and support him.
Speaker 5 (01:34:15):
And no doubt because when I told him about this,
he said, that's beautiful. Them they right there, they gonna
keep it real.
Speaker 4 (01:34:23):
Oh yeah, we've been watching Dirk since the beginning literally
literally her up with vond and everybody. So it's like
we literally watched him grow up.
Speaker 5 (01:34:32):
And also we can't forget about our main guy with
oh Swiss. We definitely shout out to that brother man,
and that is Swiss is one of his biggest mentors.
That's the one who talks to him, keep him on point,
different things like he always calls Swiss. They're always talking
what direction? What should I do?
Speaker 18 (01:34:52):
You know?
Speaker 5 (01:34:52):
And it's good to have somebody like Swiss in this corner.
Speaker 12 (01:34:54):
You know.
Speaker 8 (01:34:55):
Absolutely Well, thank y'all for joining us, Dante Banks, Kevin Freeman,
thank you so much, and please keep it FUS updated
when you can.
Speaker 5 (01:35:02):
Yes, sir, we'll do, And I appreciate your all from having.
Speaker 3 (01:35:04):
Absolutely appreciate you some morning. It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 8 (01:35:07):
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find someone who values generosity as much as you do,
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of yo.
Speaker 9 (00:41):
This is your time to get it off your chest,
whether you're mad or blessed.
Speaker 6 (00:44):
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You're what's up?
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Trap yas? What's the baby? What's our star? Are you?
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How are you now? I'm doing good? It's checking on
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Speaker 4 (01:02):
We are bloods black, and how they with my brother?
My brother who you're getting into this weekend?
Speaker 10 (01:06):
Listen, let me tell you all right, you see, I
just try to skate by.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
That and I just keep talking.
Speaker 11 (01:12):
Yes, I'm sorry, Go ahead.
Speaker 10 (01:15):
So when y'all use the public restroom, right, do y'all
put you off bear butt cheeks on the public toilet?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
No? I don't think anybody does.
Speaker 10 (01:25):
No, Okay. I had to stop talking to this guy
because he'd be out here bear button public toilet seats,
and he was trying to tell me that it is
actually sanitary to not put the liners down on toilet seas.
You know what's so crazy. I just called and I
was just talking to be and he didn't answer the phone,
and he said he heard the same thing. That is sanitary.
Speaker 7 (01:45):
Why a bottom? Yeah, well we're gonna get a bump
on your butt.
Speaker 10 (01:50):
Don't sit or public toilet seat tweeze with your bear butt.
Speaker 7 (01:53):
That's nasty.
Speaker 12 (01:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
The only way it would be unsanitary if you're using
the same line as somebody.
Speaker 7 (01:57):
Now that's nasty.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Imagine seeing the line already the to and you sit
on the line and you like, thank you guys.
Speaker 10 (02:05):
But all right, y'all, you have a good weekend, good Friday,
freaky freaky Friday. Make sure you'll do something freaky today.
Speaker 7 (02:11):
You know, I ask you who you was getting into.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
By the business yard?
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Goodbye?
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Hello, who's this?
Speaker 10 (02:20):
Good morning?
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DJ?
Speaker 12 (02:21):
Andrey Charlom and the guy Hilario.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Get off your chest?
Speaker 10 (02:26):
All right, I gotta get off my chest.
Speaker 12 (02:28):
Donald Rollins is clearly one of the funniest people on
the planet because he's doing it for it's long at
the highest level.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
For you to come at.
Speaker 12 (02:36):
The Breakfast Club and complain that people aren't taking you
serious because of them, it's a little whack. It's ingenuously you.
On one interview you said you had a book and
brought out a pamphlet.
Speaker 7 (02:49):
He was funny, but I get it.
Speaker 12 (02:53):
But you hear David Chappelle Kevin Hart when he speaking interviews.
They're funny, but you also haveing, like real conversation.
Speaker 7 (03:01):
It's always a joke, you know what I'm saying.
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But hey, they swooped, Donald Rollins, you know you're one
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Speaker 13 (03:27):
I'm telling, I'm telling what you're doing.
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Call of yo.
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If this is your time to get it off your chest,
whether you're mad or blessed.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
Eight hundred five eight five one five one.
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Hello.
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Speaker 14 (03:43):
Good morning? It's James calling from North Carolina.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
Hey James, what up?
Speaker 7 (03:46):
Brother?
Speaker 5 (03:47):
Uh?
Speaker 14 (03:48):
Oh, good morning everybody?
Speaker 6 (03:51):
What's wrong?
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Oh?
Speaker 14 (03:56):
Just love you?
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Can you can't hear you?
Speaker 7 (04:02):
Just love your kids? James.
Speaker 8 (04:04):
James recently found a text message from his son and
uh and the text message his son was saying that
he wanted to off himself.
Speaker 14 (04:12):
Well his mom saying about he doesn't want to be buried,
but he's not.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
How old is your son?
Speaker 7 (04:21):
Brother?
Speaker 14 (04:23):
He's seventy.
Speaker 7 (04:25):
Have you take him? Have you took him? Took him
to talk talk to anybody yet? Brother?
Speaker 14 (04:29):
I'm I'm gonna go the other day I was gonna
go so it cut his hair and go see that
captain there week. I think I'm gonna go to day.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
You definitely should do that. Y'all should go to y'all
should go to some family counselor man. Just have him
sit down and.
Speaker 8 (04:46):
Talk to somebody sooner than later. Brother, Absolutely, Oh god, I.
Speaker 14 (04:52):
Got out of the only think even bored I wanted
to be around.
Speaker 8 (04:57):
Man.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Absolutely where you call him from Carolina?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
As he said, no for South North Carolina.
Speaker 7 (05:05):
I'm gonna put you on hold man.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
I'm gonna get you in touch with somebody man that
you that you probably can talk to.
Speaker 7 (05:10):
Hold on, brother, can you give you an email to
a good psychiatrist?
Speaker 5 (05:13):
I know?
Speaker 10 (05:14):
Okay, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
You know that The sad thing is, you know, me
and my wife we do a podcast, case podcast where we.
Speaker 8 (05:20):
Take emails, and in the last two weeks we got
four emails from parents saying the same exact thing, you know,
like you know that they've been talking to their kids
recently and they've been seeing the change in their kids,
and their kids have been talking about, you know, suicide.
And these are the ages from eight to twelve.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (05:39):
And we tell everybody as a parent, like my father
went through my stuff, just to make sure if you
see any change, it's not Brian.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah, you're the mom, your dad.
Speaker 8 (05:49):
Go through the text messages, go through emails, go through
your kids stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
You would. You want to make sure that you're on
top of it.
Speaker 8 (05:55):
And like Charloumagne always said, get the necessary help took therapists.
Get help, like, don't try to do it on your
own because you know you're not professionally trained for this.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Get help and actually be happy that your kid is
expressing that they have an issue. You know, because some
kids don't express that they have an issue. They just
keep it to themselves and then they actually end up
completing suicide. Be happy that they're actually telling you, because
now you know that's a cry for help.
Speaker 7 (06:20):
So go get the milk.
Speaker 8 (06:21):
Absolutely eight hundred five eight five one o five one.
If you need the vent, call us up right now.
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Morning.
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this morning.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
That phenomenal, amazing study.
Speaker 15 (06:58):
Study.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
How many of y'all make sure everybody's house is good?
Speaker 8 (07:05):
Ok Okay, let's get right into it. Harlem is back
January twenty third on Amazon Prime. But sadly they say
this is the last season. Why so many people watch it?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
So many people are into it? How did they just
do it like that?
Speaker 6 (07:16):
Ask Fun Prime.
Speaker 16 (07:20):
It's really really sad, and I think like everybody's super
sad because we had so much story to tell and
so like, if we did have more seasons, this would
have the stories would have been so good. But they
did such an amazing job truncating it, bringing it down
into this final season. I think everybody's gonna be happy.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
But hopefully we get a movie.
Speaker 8 (07:39):
Okay, did y'all know it was gonna be the final
season when y'all started taping?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Did you know that already? Did y'all find a halfway through?
Speaker 13 (07:46):
I found no, not halfway through. I think I found
out a little late, but sometimes I'm in my own world.
But I found out the day of the reading as
we were reading it.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Now, going into knowing that it was the last season. No,
I knew it, but I hadn't read the last two.
Speaker 13 (08:03):
I thought they were saving the last two episodes, so
I didn't know, you know, And then as we were
reading it, I.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Was like, oh, no, this is it.
Speaker 8 (08:11):
Yeah, but did y'all been doing a lot on the
side as well?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Y'all been engaged? You ever having babies, losing?
Speaker 16 (08:21):
Yeah, it's true, it's true.
Speaker 8 (08:24):
So how were y'all doing all of that on the
side as well as taping the show?
Speaker 17 (08:28):
You know, what's interesting is that as we've been taping
the show, because we.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Started what you start twenty twenty, okay.
Speaker 17 (08:34):
Twenty twenty, and then we got like maybe three episodes in,
then COVID happened, and then we took a break, then
we came back, then we had a year off, then
we went through striking, all these different things. But during
the duration of all these things, we were experiencing life.
We were having all kinds of life changes and having
conversations in between, because not only are we, you know,
friends on the show, we're like sisters in real life,
(08:55):
but also with Tracy and then saying with Tyler, like
that's our brother, that's our family, but each one of
us were experiencing things that, you know, as Tracy spoke
to us, She's like, what do you think about this?
Speaker 15 (09:04):
And what do you think about that?
Speaker 17 (09:05):
And I know you're on this journey and you know,
do you mind if I implement this and all of that.
So so much of it is actually mirrored in the
show of what we were experiencing. So it kind of
made it seamless in that way, and you know, you
have a specific story about that, but yeah, just everything,
it just it feels like it was a part of
our actual, real lives.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
So what's your story with that?
Speaker 16 (09:23):
No, so we were talking about this, but you know
how Quinn goes through her depression journey in season two.
I did a lot of research on depression because it
wasn't something I was personally dealing with at the time,
but I wanted to reflect it in a very honest way.
So went through that, did that research, and then I
had the baby and then I was diagnosed with severe
postpart depression. So even when I came on the show
the last time, I was in the depths of that.
(09:45):
Didn't really realize the impact and how that affected me
until I started to kind of climb out of that. Right,
going through that journey with Quinn, it gave me a
space and I call it my help journal, like a
reflective journal, to look back on and say, oh, like
this was this was the way in which it was
showing up for Quinn. I didn't realize that postpartum depression
can show up as fatigue, as overwhelmed. We know about
(10:08):
the sadness, we know about all that stuff, but these
are some of the ways the mood swings. Didn't know
that that was a part of those things. And so
being able to play that and reflect that in Quinn
gave me almost like a map that I could go, Okay, grace, like,
this is how you can navigate.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
This did work help with her?
Speaker 16 (10:26):
It worse, No, it helped because it actually gave me
an enlightenment, right like, oh, this is what it could
look like. This is what And so even though I
was I was doing it for Quinn, you know, I
felt it on a different nuanced level when I was
actually going through it myself.
Speaker 15 (10:40):
Gotcha, how are y'all juggling the schedules though?
Speaker 18 (10:43):
Like now, because it's still is it's like y'all personally
flourishing business y'all flourishing?
Speaker 15 (10:50):
How can y'all because I know that the schedules.
Speaker 18 (10:52):
I mean, I know y'all said, it's been like two
years since y'all did this, But now y'all all got
individually a lot going on too.
Speaker 15 (11:00):
Can y'all still like, how y'all juggling schedules?
Speaker 16 (11:02):
We all start with Sian that one because she just
got us single.
Speaker 18 (11:09):
You know, I thrive when I'm busy, I really do.
I like the structure of figuring out my schedule. I've
become more detail oriented when I have a lot of
things to focused on.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
And I was very.
Speaker 18 (11:19):
Intentional about dropping feel my Love my new single after
the ending season two with a engagement or proposal, and
so I wanted to like balance that and have that
come out at the same time as the show because
I knew a lot of Harlem.
Speaker 15 (11:33):
Fans would be patting attention, but also just to like, you.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Know, maybe troll a little bit or.
Speaker 18 (11:38):
Make them question whether and you would actually end up
in this relationship because we don't get a yes or
no at.
Speaker 15 (11:43):
The end of the season two. Okay, strategy anything, you know.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
We're trying to have a rollout making you refer to
them as your sisters and your brothers. That does that
happen naturally because a lot of times, you know, people
want to keep things business.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
So that just happened naturally that this bond.
Speaker 17 (11:57):
It happened completely organically in the beginning from day one.
If I started with Schnik, well, like we were on
FaceTime a few years prior and I had never met
her before, and we just spoke and we talked about like,
you know what, one day we're gonna do a show together,
and we touched and agreed on the camera of the FaceTime.
And then literally years later, here we are both walking in,
we're both testing, and we're in the bathroom and.
Speaker 16 (12:18):
She's like, do you remember me?
Speaker 7 (12:19):
I was like from here?
Speaker 15 (12:19):
And she told me and I was like wait what.
Speaker 17 (12:21):
And then we ended up praying and crying in the bathroom,
and you know, there's that. And then literally with Tyler,
it was just immediate, like just family and just easy
or organic. Same thing with Jerry, it was like like
I've known her forever, like you know.
Speaker 15 (12:34):
And then with Grace, I called her, I was like, girl,
I'm getting.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
She was like, don't doubt me.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
You getting ready to.
Speaker 16 (12:40):
Yeah, Like for years before that, so that was exciting.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, is that the normal sex?
Speaker 15 (12:46):
It isn't always like that.
Speaker 17 (12:47):
And then you also you know it when it's gonna be.
Speaker 15 (12:50):
For women, you just never know what you're gonna get.
You hope that that is the.
Speaker 17 (12:53):
Experience, but you know, and we had talked about this
a few years prior, saying how it would be great
if we got an opportunity to work on a show together.
So when I called her and she was like, I
can't really, I was excited. It was like you just
knew that God was in it. And I have to say,
for me, this has been the best professional experience that
I've had in my entire career. You know, you know,
in a way, it's the end of a chapter, but
(13:13):
it's exciting because the way that we end the chapter
were really really proud of. And I think the audience
is going to get everything that they want to get.
But also I think that we got what we want
to get outside of having a movie.
Speaker 15 (13:24):
Additionally, but.
Speaker 17 (13:27):
It's better, I think to move this way where it's
you know, you didn't stay for too long, but you
gave everyone exactly what they wanted and needed, and I want.
Speaker 13 (13:35):
To give Meghan her props too, because she was a
great leader in setting the culture of our set. And
everybody who has come and guest starred, they've had a
really great time. But we learned from Meghan from Grace
like it truly.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Is a fun time. But also we have decided.
Speaker 13 (13:54):
We decided early on that we were going to stick
together throughout this situation, so nobody could say, you know,
this person was a difficult one, or this person was
this one, or because if there was a problem, we
all have the problem.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
If we all have it and we're on the.
Speaker 13 (14:08):
Zoom calls or whatever, and you won't know where the
source is, because we didn't want it to be like
somebody was pinpointed or somebody is And we promised each
other that if somebody says something to one of us
about the other one, we're not just gonna take it
at face value.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
We come into the source and saying, hey, did this
really happen.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
People do like.
Speaker 13 (14:28):
To like separate women and pen women against each other,
and so I think it was really important for us
to And this is my second show. I mean, I
was like six months out of grad school and I
booked this show, and the first time being the lead
in something and then to get to do it like this,
which is for me my manifestation, and to be like,
(14:48):
oh wait no, actually, for me, this can be the
norm of.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
The experience and y'all set the tone for that. I
thank you for.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
Being a student.
Speaker 8 (14:57):
We have more with the cast of hallm here making Good,
tal Aleplee, Grace Biased, Janiqua Shandai, and Jerry Johnson.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
When we come back, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning everybody.
Speaker 8 (15:06):
You'rj NV Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the God we are the
Breakfast Club. He's still kicking in with the cast of
Harlem Megan Good, Tala Leplee, Grace Bias, Shaniqua Shandai and
Jerry Johnson.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Charlamagne does acting allow y'all to just escape when you're
dealing with all of these personal things.
Speaker 7 (15:23):
Now you can just go be somebody else for a
few hours.
Speaker 17 (15:25):
It allows you to work through things, you know, past trauma,
certain experiences. Rather it's childhood, I mean, whatever it may be.
It allows you to have a place to put it
to good use and for it to be something that
someone else can watch or see and take from it
and go Okay. That made me feel not alone, or
that made me feel soon or understood. So I think
in a way it's therapeutic. I don't know if it
(15:46):
really allows us to escape, I get to each of these.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
Gets a little dangerous. So do y'all allow y'rselves to
lose yourself in a row?
Speaker 5 (15:54):
You don't?
Speaker 7 (15:54):
You don't can't go to there?
Speaker 6 (15:55):
You can?
Speaker 13 (15:56):
Because that's I think the if we think about like
some of our great that have lost themselves and then
we lost them. I was gonna say that, Yeah, it's
like when you go there, if you don't know how
to unzip that character and step out in order to
go home and not have that energy in your home,
it gets crazy. But also the body doesn't know the
(16:18):
difference sometimes, So when you go and when you're going
deep into a character and you're not doing those things
where you are separating when you get.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Home, your body don't know the difference.
Speaker 13 (16:30):
So if my character is going crazy, if I'm playing
the Joker and I'm really in there and I'm taking
the Joker home with me, my body don't know that
I'm not the Joker.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
If I believe it enough.
Speaker 13 (16:41):
And so sometimes you know it's good to be like
all right, I'm gonna give a cap on this, Like,
if I really gotta go there, I'm gonna go there
for the six months I gotta go there. But I'm
already planning all the things I need to plan so
that day I'm done, it's already set up for me
to release this. Whether I'm going to the ocean, whether
I'm wherever I am, whether all of my friends come
(17:04):
to my house to remind me of who I am.
I have to have something that reality sets me back
to who I am, or it's not gonna be it's gonna.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Be on my spirit and it's not gonna be good
for me.
Speaker 18 (17:15):
Then, speaking of then Jerry, where's Tie's head at?
Speaker 15 (17:19):
After she found out she smashed the mother and.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
She got to jump back into being.
Speaker 13 (17:30):
Yes, that's crazy, that's crazy, you know, to find out
something like that is like, how do you even deal
with that? And I think Tie decides because what I.
Speaker 10 (17:42):
Really want.
Speaker 7 (17:44):
Open.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I think Jerry is poly, but she's loved be Jon.
Speaker 13 (17:54):
Even though Jerry is Polly, I wouldn't describe Tie as Polly.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
I think Ty was really wanting.
Speaker 13 (18:00):
Something, but also probably in that moment, being greedy because
she was wanting something.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
But having something else.
Speaker 13 (18:07):
And I think sometimes if my intention is commitment, then
I have to go towards what that intention is.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
And if it's commitment towards one person.
Speaker 13 (18:15):
And I'm letting my energy fly, of course I might
end up with a daughter.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
I lost.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
I knew what was going on, and I was like, Grace,
how is motherhood changed you?
Speaker 16 (18:29):
I think what I did not expect was that I
was fully prepared to be like, I'm ready to learn
everything I can about motherhood and my child. I did
not anticipate that I was going to also go on
a journey to learn about myself, and so I had
to face things about myself in order to ensure his
well being. Right, So I had to go back to
(18:49):
my own childhood, go back to the things that you
know that I didn't realize that I was like holding
on to, or dealing with, or like simple things like
you know, like being being a recovering people pleaser. I
can't do that with my child. I will be so depleted.
I will not show up as the mother that I
need to be. So how do I then organize in
my mind? Like how do I prioritize myself for real?
Speaker 19 (19:11):
For real?
Speaker 18 (19:12):
You know?
Speaker 16 (19:12):
So like things like that that I didn't expect that
are really changing my life.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
Wow, are these moments bittersweet?
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Knowing that you know it's gonna be the last time
y'all probably do interviews together and thinks of that nature.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
They said, they talk about movie, they manifest the movie.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
So the last time we need a petition.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Is not this.
Speaker 18 (19:32):
Y'all could do something else, Yeah, because y'all are so grounded,
even as just outside the caves, just hearing y'all speak like,
you know, like even from the last interview that we
had with you, like so much growth, like not saying
that you you know last time right, No, well not that,
(19:54):
but just I don't know, it's just it's zinful, it's tranquility.
Speaker 15 (19:58):
This is a whole bunch of all are very grounded
as a cast.
Speaker 18 (20:02):
So I appreciate it. Anything else not even don't have
to be all the or just you know, y'all can
write your own movie. I can directly, we can just get.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
It list.
Speaker 16 (20:14):
Come on here, like we really appreciate enough.
Speaker 20 (20:17):
And even just like you know, to all of us
before you know, as we're saying goodbye, I feel like
one of the biggest uh you know reasons it's not
a sad goodbye. It's like for a multitude of things, like, hey,
we have a you know, we have a great beginning middle,
and now you know, we knew are and we knew
who were landing at so like that's a beautiful thing.
But then on the flip side off of the script,
you know, because of the way we were able to
come together as a family, Like I feel like this
(20:37):
is a you know, a lot of times when we
say goodbye to people, it's like a sad goodbye, you
know what I'm saying. But it's like, I really feel
like this is a you know, this is the opposite, is
almost like a happy goodbye.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 20 (20:47):
When we say goodbye, it's almost like we're raising the
trophy up, you know what I'm saying. So it's like
when I do, yeah, it's on a good note. So
when I think back about these times, it's not really
going to be a sad thing. You know, we're able
to experience together, share it with the world, and uh,
close the book at the right time.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Cause you telling, were not leaving like that. We're leaving
with your singles. So we don't record, we don't play
your record, you play.
Speaker 8 (21:07):
Your record, misgrace. I felt the God in you this morning.
We're gonna say a prayer before we get about here,
to say.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Good God is great.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
Eat on the table.
Speaker 19 (21:23):
All right, let's do it.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
Let's do it.
Speaker 16 (21:26):
Thank you, dear heavenly Father, Thank you so much for
this time together.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Lord.
Speaker 16 (21:29):
We asked that you bless the Breakfast Club. Lord, we
asked that you blessed our minds, their hearts or words.
Your Father, thank you for a form like this, or
that we're able to galvanize as one, that we're able
to come together in truth and honesty and love and
just celebrate amazing black work. Lord. We are so grateful
of this moment, grateful for this time.
Speaker 19 (21:46):
Dear Father.
Speaker 16 (21:46):
We ask that you go before us, that you make
the crooked pass straight. We ask that you continue to
uplift us in your spirit. The Lord, let us always
stay in your purpose and your will. Lord, We thank
you for your love. We thank you for your blessing
and Jesus name. We place amen, Amen may.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Because Harlem, it's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 8 (22:06):
Good morning, wake up, you're like's into the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Good morning.
Speaker 8 (22:11):
Everybody is DJ MV Jess Hilarius charlamage to God. We
are the breakfast club going. The roaster is here as well.
We got a special guest in the building. Where's Khalifa?
What's happening to my brother? See you in a minute,
not in person.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
I know it's been a while. Yeah, yeah, you've been
working out. COVID happened. I've been taking care of my kids.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
How are you?
Speaker 6 (22:31):
I'm amazing, Thank you. How are you?
Speaker 7 (22:32):
You're still doing the MMA and all that absolutely every day. Yeah,
you wake up and do it early in the morning.
Speaker 20 (22:38):
I have like a routine, so I go to the
gym five days a week. I do martial arts as well,
so I'm like lifting, martial arts, and I do hot
yoga three times a week. So I'll get up at
like six with my kids, take care of my dogs
and my kids.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Then I eat breakfast.
Speaker 20 (22:55):
Then I go to the gym probably around like nine ish,
you know, from nine to about one or two in
the afternoon.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
That's my program time. And then after that I got
the rest of my.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
Day program to smoke.
Speaker 20 (23:06):
No no, no, program is like workout, got yeah, yeah,
whatever the program is for the day.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
That's what I did stone.
Speaker 21 (23:13):
Smoking between all of that.
Speaker 10 (23:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
Yeah, No, I.
Speaker 20 (23:16):
Smoke on the way to the gym and then on
my way to the next event. Yeah, yeah, for sure,
I stay stone.
Speaker 21 (23:22):
How long have you been smoking now.
Speaker 20 (23:25):
I've been high for longer than I've been not high. Okay,
yeah consecutively. Yeah, you be doing the shrooms? No, I
quit doing shrooms. I did it for a minute, so
I don't really need I feel like I need to
keep doing them over and over.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
I'm glad you said need right, because I was going
to ask, what is your intention when you smoke weed?
Speaker 7 (23:44):
Nowadays?
Speaker 6 (23:44):
I just love being stoned. Yeah.
Speaker 20 (23:47):
I like the way it makes me feel. I like
the decisions that I make when I'm stoned. I like
the way movies look when I'm stoned. I like playing
with my kids when I'm stoned. I just love being high. Yeah,
off marijuana, though, marijuana, not anything crazy.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
The Cushion Orange Juice range juiced too. Yeah, great project.
I love the first time, second episode too.
Speaker 13 (24:07):
It.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
I really love the first app thank you, But it
got like a nineteen ninety now.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
G funk sound.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
Uh huh? For sure?
Speaker 7 (24:13):
Was that intentional?
Speaker 6 (24:14):
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 20 (24:15):
I think that was like the original sound of Cushion
Orange Juice. For a lot of people, it was like
nostalgic for the nineties or G funk or you know,
just riding around in the car going to house.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
Parties getting fresh.
Speaker 20 (24:27):
It just got that whole, you know, player vibe to
it and a little bit of funk to it as well,
just like the way the beats slap and the way
that the base is there. So a lot of the
productions Cardo Sledgern and E Dan and just the original
people who you know, put that sound together, so it
was really easy to just bring it back.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Yeah, I'm glad you like it.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
It slaps.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Thank you.
Speaker 21 (24:48):
You had announced in twenty twenty four that this project
was done and now it's here. Yeah, the release of it,
so is it traditional release to streaming or like how
you're going to do Because Cushion Orange Juice won, it
was like you do, did your own thing, you dropped
change the way people were listening to music at the time.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
Right now, this one's going to streaming.
Speaker 20 (25:04):
We're releasing it through BMG, and they've been really really
cool at letting me kind of just curate the vibe
and what the feeling of it is, and they understand
what the project is and we've had meetings you know, weekly,
just how we're going to attack it and you know,
make it last and making something real. So I've just
been really excited about updating, you know, the format. I
(25:26):
think that's what's most important, especially for like being an
OG in the game, is releasing things with the times
how they are now, but also still being innovative as well.
And that's why you see, like in between I've been
dropping freestyles and doing a lot of stuff like just
entertaining my fans because I still have that freedom, I'm
able to do that as we get ready for the
album too, So just to put it all together and
(25:48):
make it current, I think that was the idea for
all of us.
Speaker 7 (25:51):
You know, April fourteen was the fifteenth anniversary of Chrissenards.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Yeah, yeah, I did hear that, So you did hear that?
Speaker 7 (25:57):
Yeah, album.
Speaker 20 (25:59):
I try so many albums and stuff like that, like
every month is an anniversary of another project, but fifteen years, Yeah,
that's tight, And I think we're really lucky to be
able to well, I'm grateful to be able to drop
you know, the sequel as close to as I did
with the original one. I feel like that's like a
sign that just you know, feels real now. It just
(26:20):
worked out like that.
Speaker 7 (26:21):
This is divine alignment.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Like that.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Do you remember your mind state April fourteen, twenty ten.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
I do. Yeah. I was just getting off tour. I
was in Miami.
Speaker 20 (26:33):
I was working on rolling papers the album, but I
already had Cushion Orange Juice done and I had been
hyping it up for a lot of months before, so
my fans knew it was about to come out. And
I remember just going to the hotel room. I was
in a nice ass hotel on the beach. I was like, yeah,
I'm about to drop it, and I just released it
from my computer that day. I was really I was
still am super confident, but I was really really like
(26:54):
super duper confident about the music and just my connection
with my fans.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
So that was the time to do it.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
Did it pistol label off? When you dropped it?
Speaker 6 (27:02):
I really wasn't signed at that point.
Speaker 20 (27:03):
They were kind of thinking about signing me, working on
signing me, But it didn't piss them off at all.
They knew how important it was for me to still
curate that organic thing because at that time I was
doing a lot more for myself than any label could do.
And it's still like that, like I promote myself, I
do my social media, I do my merch, I do my.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Marketing, I do all.
Speaker 20 (27:24):
I just give you a whole package and then you
could just you know, you look like a genius.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Well, cushion ar just changed everything though. That was like
your that's like your section eighty.
Speaker 21 (27:31):
That's so far gone that like beanded the tailor gang
all of the like we we were talking about it
before you came in. Like I remember the feeling when
Cushion Orangers came out, and like I was a senior
in high school and like they would throw parties where
you would literally come to smoke and only listen to
Cushion Orange Jeps, and like it was such a movement.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
I love that.
Speaker 21 (27:49):
It was like really such a movement.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
Yeah, yeah, that's what it was for. So it's good
that that happened.
Speaker 20 (27:54):
It was all intentional and it was like like you said,
that's like my you know, or my doggy style or
my illmatic Like I knew I had to make something
that was like that, you know, that was a good
one to be attached to. And yeah, it was just
I always tell people it's bigger than the music. It's
stuff like what you're saying, Like, that's what makes it
what it is. Like even this album now, it's amazing
music wise, but you can't just sit there and listen
(28:15):
to it.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
You gotta experience that.
Speaker 20 (28:17):
You gotta go to a beat, you gotta go on vacation,
you gotta kick it with the homies, you gotta hang
out super duper late.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
You got to hook up with.
Speaker 20 (28:24):
Somebody who you've been you know, or you got to
meet somebody who you never even understood, understood that with you.
That's what makes it what it is, And that's what
I'm excited for people to experience as well as the
music being good.
Speaker 7 (28:36):
People don't realize that though.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
When you put out music, music just provides the soundtrack
to whatever you're experiencing in life. Yeah, that's why you
can never argue with certain people about certain albums because
the time of life they were experiencing that album. Yeah,
you can't like when somebody says, oh, this is this
is going to remind you of Whiskally for cushion ards.
Speaker 7 (28:55):
Nah, right, I'm on something totally different than the more.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
Than twenty ten Exactly.
Speaker 20 (28:59):
It's personal Yeah, I think people do have those personal
moments or those life decisions and what you're listening to
at the time, definitely, you know dictates, you know what
your memories of that are, so it gets deep.
Speaker 21 (29:13):
Do you think that because I saw you have like,
it's twenty two or twenty three songs on the project. Yeah,
it's twenty two, I.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
Think, so full bonus record full five.
Speaker 21 (29:21):
So normally with people who put that many songs in
one place, it's like you think people are gonna listen
and start to finish. But like I and me listening
to it, I don't have any doubt that people will.
Do you think that the conversation that you're having at
the beginning and then the conversation you're having at the end,
is it cohesive or do you just throw songs on there?
Like how do you kind of flowing out of well?
Speaker 20 (29:38):
With this project, the last maybe four songs we put
out before the album came out. We use this method
called the waterfall method, where you put songs out and
then add them to the album later. That was a
conscious decision because I didn't know what people were gonna
want to hear, So those songs helped me dictate what
I was gonna do with the album, and I still
(29:59):
like those songs, but they weren't exactly what you were
going to get from the full album. So I used
that as an opportunity to, you know, do some promo
and get the idea of the album out there. But
by the time you get the actual real album, those
eighteen songs are brand new. Those are an experience that
nobody has yet and that everybody's gonna get together. And
(30:22):
that's where to me that more of the conversation is
is from the intro to the eighteen song. Yeah, it's
pretty simple. The whole album is just about keeping it
players motivational. It's get stoned, and there's songs for the
ladies and their songs to ride around to. So as
long as I'm in that pocket, the conversation is good.
In my opinion, I know what my fans want and
(30:45):
what they expect, so I didn't go outside of that
at all.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
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Speaker 8 (30:53):
Jesse larra Is Charlamage, the gay All the Breakfast Club
is still kicking it with Wiz Khalifa, Charlamagne.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Why a sequel left all of you that could be
hit a miss too, That's something.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
Yeah, I just again listening to the fans.
Speaker 20 (31:06):
Man, everybody was telling me like how much they missed
that sound or that pocket of what I was doing
at that time, or how much they enjoyed it. So
it's nothing for me as an artist to like, you know,
dig in my bag and get with the producers that
I trust and really not recreate that but do what.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
That sounds like now.
Speaker 20 (31:23):
But it's the same feeling though, like you know what
I mean, and I'm not scared to do that, And
it's all about the fans. It's offered them and it's
what they want, you know, Like a lot of nostalgic
stuff is coming back.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
And my era, like.
Speaker 20 (31:34):
You said, it's fifteen years ago, so it's way yeah,
it's way further removed than it is closed. So why
not just go ahead and just revisit something that was
you know, big to us and that people appreciate.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
The problem with fans though, they trickle and they don't
want you to grow.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
So so even though you've grown, like you're a father now,
like your life might be totally different than it was
fifteen years ago.
Speaker 7 (31:53):
They're like, no, I want twenty ten. Yeah, that's impossible.
Speaker 21 (31:56):
That sounds fling.
Speaker 20 (31:57):
I don't think it's impossible really, yeah, because I think
they just want the best. Like I can experiment and
I can sing, and I can do country songs or
pop records, but they're like, yo, we like when you rap,
or I could wear you know, high fashion and you
know runway stuff, but they're like, we like when you
wear streetwear.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
And it's not hard for me to just get right
back into that.
Speaker 20 (32:16):
It's like, Okay, I'm trying what I like and I'm
still gonna do that in my off time or if
I get an opportunity to do it, I'm gonna throw
a suit on it, and I'm gonna do a pop record,
but it's not gonna be my song. It'll be somebody
else's and I could still chart and perform it all
over the world.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
But for my fans, I'm gonna give them what they want.
Speaker 21 (32:32):
But you are Dad now data too, and making these
music and putting this project together, like it does still
sound like Whiskly for it's new and it's innovative, but
it's it's still the same feeling. How do you because
you are different, your dad is so different.
Speaker 20 (32:45):
Now Yeah, yeah, I just keep it one hundred Like
that's what I always did. I always just talked about
my life. I talked about my day. I talk about
my week. So like I've never run out of bars.
Speaker 21 (32:54):
What's it like doing this whole runner? So you got
your coachell.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
These dance they don't go nowhere, man, I need some
citys got.
Speaker 21 (33:05):
I saw you were you and Amy were dancing on
the side of stage.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Yeah, why are.
Speaker 21 (33:08):
People so mad that that's your girlfriend? Why I'm mad
that you deals with your girl.
Speaker 20 (33:12):
I don't think people were mad. I think people just
need clickbait. Like that's what the world we live in
these days. But I don't live my life based off
of that. I'm still gonna if I'm hearing some music
like I'm a dance.
Speaker 21 (33:23):
But you never have like kind of leaned into all
of that stuff though, Like you've always kind of like
just even if it was happening, you did your own thing.
But with what like people the clickbait stuff. So like
even when you were dating and Baroles now with Amy,
just people are really invested in your life because you're
such a big start and now your kids are growing
up and they're on social media as well too. People
just want to know things and they throw things on Yeah.
Speaker 20 (33:44):
I know I'm in control of all of that, though
I give them enough to you know what I'm saying, Like,
like I said, I don't live my life based off
of it. Yeah, but I know that people are nosy,
Like you haven't even seen my daughter.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
She's almost a year old. So I can keep some
stuff quiet.
Speaker 20 (33:58):
But this is the entertainment industry, so at the end
of the day, people are going to have their perception
of whatever whatever. But as long as my intentions are good,
I know I'm out here doing exactly what I'm supposed
to be doing, and nobody who really knows me and
loves me is ever going to be embarrassed by my
actions when I'm outside.
Speaker 21 (34:14):
So yeah, you won't be doing nothing. Really, how do
you talk to like a Sebastian's older getting older and
that which is crazy because it's just crazy to see.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
Him to get older.
Speaker 21 (34:24):
No, but it's literally like when you think about when
he was first born to now and just being a
fan and watching him grow, there's probably so much things
that you guys, decide when to talk to him about
or not talk to him about. But your celebrity, so
it's different. How do you kind of like what is
your discretion on, Like, here's what I allow him to know,
we're see or whatever, because you can't guard kids from everything.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
Yeah, we just keep it one hundred with him too.
He's a smart boy.
Speaker 20 (34:46):
And these kids are we were you know, grew up fast,
but they're growing way faster on the Internet and everything.
So it's just about keeping it real and you know,
just allowing him to make his own decisions as well.
Speaker 6 (34:56):
It's like I can tell you what to do, but
you know what's.
Speaker 20 (35:00):
And wrong, and just instilling that in him. And also
his friend group too. That's a real big thing now,
is his friend group. But I feel like just him
being a kid. He's a normal kid. He goes through
the same things that normal kids go through. He gets
in trouble at school. We have to get on zoom
calls with his teachers, Like all of it on a.
Speaker 21 (35:18):
Zoom call with a teacher. How is it, like, how
do the teacher react. I mean the probably use to
celebrity parents, they'd be.
Speaker 20 (35:23):
Cool, they be chill, Like I think it helps him
a little bit more too. They're like, oh, we get
to see what here, you can pass this class.
Speaker 7 (35:31):
How is it being a father of a daughter.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Now, I got four daughters, not his daughter, so I
know daughters bring out a different energy.
Speaker 20 (35:37):
Yeah. Man, it's it's super duper sweet. She's she's really
young still, She's only eight months, she'll be nine months,
so her personality hasn't come out yet. But it is
a little bit different having at a little girl. And
I'm older now too as a parent, Like I was
twenty five when I had Bash. I'm thirty seven now,
so it's just like a whole different mind state, like
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having a new child and it's a girl.
Speaker 7 (36:03):
It was crazy to watch y'all all get older. Yeah, yeah,
I remember that.
Speaker 21 (36:07):
Not kids get older.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Because you know what it is. And I don't know
if it's because of the Internet. I don't think we've
had another movement like that, Like when I think about.
Speaker 20 (36:18):
The you and Nick Kendricks and yeah, I feel like
like the twenty sixteen, like Uzzi and Cardy and them,
they they.
Speaker 21 (36:25):
Had a movement. But I will say it's because I
know what you're talking about with Uzzi, especially because I'm
from Delaware from Philly, but it was it's still just different,
Like I can't really describe it, Like the way that
the whole tailor gang and like how we were dressing.
It was really different.
Speaker 7 (36:38):
How often do you revisit the First Christian As now?
Speaker 20 (36:42):
I listened to it a lot because we perform it
a lot. Yeah, there's a lot of like festivals and
places where they're like, can you come through and perform
the whole catalog or give us three songs off of
there or something like that. So I listened to it
and I listened to it for inspiration too. Sometimes I like,
I sampled a couple of songs on this new one
from the old old one.
Speaker 6 (37:01):
I like threw it in there. You wouldn't even know,
but just to like keep the DNA.
Speaker 21 (37:04):
There, can you get can you tell me so I
can go about you figure it out?
Speaker 6 (37:07):
I got to do it again, exactly and again and again.
Speaker 21 (37:10):
Because it feels literally I said that it feels like
the original Cushion Oranges even though it's new music. But
and a lot of artists can't do that, not this
far apart. Hmm.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Yeah, I love how you keep Max B's name a lot. Yeah, Yeah,
he's on the new project.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
He's also one of my favorite artists as well. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
Yeah, did you speak.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
Here and there?
Speaker 20 (37:29):
Yeah, especially now that the album's coming out and he's
coming home too.
Speaker 6 (37:33):
Yeah, we talk here and there. It's nothing too crazy
to just be like, I see big Bro.
Speaker 7 (37:37):
How dy'all get him on the project over the phone. Yeah,
it's not as good as that.
Speaker 20 (37:42):
Yeah, was a voice note. It's easy to do it
on voice notes now and then just line it up.
Speaker 6 (37:46):
Like I told you, we manipulated music these days.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
So you take the vocal then put the beat behind it.
Speaker 20 (37:52):
Yes, I don't want people to start getting their friends
in jail on their records the.
Speaker 7 (37:58):
Whole album.
Speaker 20 (37:59):
I don't know how much. I don't know, but don't
do it. They out of trouble.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
The other thing I was gonna say too, Man, do
you see the moments in your life when like your
career just went up, Like for example, like when you
put out weed and boys, that's another level. You put
out the other black and yellow, that's another level, and
then see you again. Come on, that's every white person
in America's favorite funeral.
Speaker 6 (38:25):
Anthem, favorite funeral it is.
Speaker 20 (38:28):
Yeah, No, I look at my career, like like a
basketball player or something like that, like me being science
to Atlantic I did really well, like being a major artist.
Speaker 6 (38:36):
So I look at it like that.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
How do you feel about your children being open to
public scrutiny like on social media commenting, and.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
Yeah, no, it is what it is like.
Speaker 20 (38:45):
They're gonna go through that anyway at school, like they gouts,
snapchat and they be doing all that stuff at school.
Speaker 6 (38:52):
So that's just the world that we live in now.
Speaker 20 (38:54):
And like back in the day, we used to rip
on each other too, so we just didn't have the
computer to do it.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
But it builds tough skin, and it is what it
is like.
Speaker 20 (39:03):
I've always been able to still be confident in myself
and function and not crash out, you know, due to
what anybody says about me. So I feel like they'll
be all right.
Speaker 7 (39:13):
If it's the week whenever you feel yourself about the
crash out or like.
Speaker 6 (39:16):
No, no, no, it's not the weird, it's the confidence. Man.
Speaker 20 (39:19):
I breathe, I do yoga, I believe in myself. I
got a higher calling.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
And sometimes they might be right. I do look funny
sometimes my feet.
Speaker 20 (39:28):
My feet are ugly or not ugly, but messed up,
but like you can't get mad at like, you know,
people pointing out your flaws, because we're not perfect, so
if you point out a flaw, you might be right.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
We got more with Whiz Khalifa when we come back.
It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 8 (39:41):
Good morning morning everybody at CJ Envy just hilarious. Charlamaine
the god we are the Breakfast Club. Were still kicking
it with Wiz Khalifa, Lauren.
Speaker 21 (39:50):
Since you like, there are people that are younger than
you just in music that I'm sure call you about
different things, because creatively your music does inspire people like
you mentioned, but like just as a dad and in
a relationship, a lot of your stuff is public. Like
I saw a conversation an interview where I think it
was Ambert. She was talking about you guys had to
sit down Sebastian have a conversation. He found her only
fans or something like that. How do you guide first
(40:13):
of all yourself and have that conversation with your son,
But when your friends, your peers are calling you like yo,
my girl's doing this online or like whatever, what's your
conversation with people? Because you handle things so well and
so gracefully.
Speaker 20 (40:23):
Nah, I think I don't expect everybody to handle things
the way that I do, so my advice and sometimes
it's like man.
Speaker 6 (40:34):
Like that, that's just how it is.
Speaker 20 (40:36):
But you have to accept it and you have to
understand that that's a part of it as well.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
And it be like that sometimes.
Speaker 20 (40:43):
But we make these decisions based off of what we
think we can handle and what we can handle, so
or you're giving a lot of responsibility based off of
what you can handle and you don't even know you
ready for it like that. So if you really want this,
you're gonna deal with the good and the bad.
Speaker 6 (41:00):
I'm built for it.
Speaker 20 (41:01):
I know how to smile, I know how to you know,
put on a face in front of people who I
know might have talked on me or tried to cut
my throat or one up on you know what I mean.
But it is what it is. Well, I don't get
no further by exposing all of that. I get further
just by being me. But a lot of people ain't
built for.
Speaker 6 (41:17):
It like that. So you know, you really got to
be like that as a parent.
Speaker 21 (41:21):
Are you ever really ready to have those like really
public conversations with us like that's such a public thing
you have to talk about in your child to see
and then in private you have to deal with it.
But then also in public you have to deal with
it because then y'all talk about the fact that it happened.
Speaker 20 (41:33):
I think, like me, I just keep it pushing, like
as long as I'm good, Like in the household, you're
going to have to deal with that or things like that,
regardless if it's not even directly involved with you. You're still
going to have to have some type of conversation like
that with your kid.
Speaker 6 (41:49):
And it's not easy for anybody.
Speaker 20 (41:51):
So as soon as they start finding that stuff or
looking at that stuff or hearing things about you know,
it might be their parent, it might be their sibling,
it might be you know what I mean, it could
be whatever.
Speaker 6 (42:01):
There's no age limit to that.
Speaker 20 (42:03):
Either it happens through their teens, it's gonna happen in
their twenties.
Speaker 6 (42:06):
Oh I heard your son is out here.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Da da da da dah.
Speaker 6 (42:09):
Right, I don't even know.
Speaker 20 (42:10):
What that's like yet, But we go through the stages.
Every parent's gonna go through the stage. But as far
as publicly, I don't live my life for the public,
So I don't even like I don't even consider that
when I'm making my moves. I don't care, Like I
don't hear it, I don't digest it. It's not it
ain't it ain't real to me. And if it pops up,
then it's something that I could you know what I mean.
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I'll deal with it in the moment, but it's like
I ain't tripping on none of that.
Speaker 7 (42:34):
Are you gonna keep secrets from your kids?
Speaker 6 (42:35):
What kind of secrets?
Speaker 7 (42:37):
Just in general?
Speaker 4 (42:37):
Like you always tell people that you know, you should
always have conversations with your parents because you'll find out
that they had a life before they were your parents.
Speaker 6 (42:44):
Yeah, I think having how old are your kids?
Speaker 7 (42:47):
Sixteen, nine, sixty.
Speaker 20 (42:49):
Three, Yeah, having a twelve year old, it's like I'm
finding out that they know way more than you.
Speaker 6 (42:54):
Actually think that they know.
Speaker 20 (42:55):
So it's hard to keep secrets when they're telling you
that they know that you thought that they didn't. No,
So it's like, damn you, there ain't no secrets, like
for real, for real you I didn't even know I
was gonna have to explain.
Speaker 6 (43:07):
That to you.
Speaker 20 (43:08):
But it's just part of it, Like because I think
the benefit of that is them not having to hear
it from somebody else. I was raised by my cousins
and you know what I mean, a bunch of eighteen
year olds and twenty year olds when I was his age,
so I was learning things a little bit differently, Like
the filter was totally different. So I would rather be
able to give my kids that knowledge than like the streets.
Speaker 6 (43:31):
Yeah, hell yeah, because it's gonna happen.
Speaker 7 (43:34):
What is a drake move with?
Speaker 20 (43:36):
What's a drake A very smart business decision? I know
that's right, That's what a drake move is.
Speaker 4 (43:51):
You know what I want to ask you too, Man,
You've been a mentor to a lot of great people.
And I recently saw this thing called the Mount Rushmore
white rappers and the good brother Mac Miller was on it.
Speaker 7 (44:02):
You know how. I don't know if you saw it,
but how did that make.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
You feel knowing that you was a mentor to him?
He's the greatest rap was Eminem, it was Mac Miller.
Speaker 20 (44:10):
They shouldn't be separating white rappers and black rappers.
Speaker 6 (44:13):
They're all rappers. And mac Miller is an amazing artist.
Speaker 5 (44:17):
Bro.
Speaker 20 (44:17):
Like I watched him, you know, come from just being
a kid in the studio to like really changing how
people digesting listening to music like on his own, And
of course we started. He started like kind of after
I was doing what I was doing, so it was
people associated me and him together like like I was.
Speaker 6 (44:38):
Doing that for him or something like that.
Speaker 20 (44:40):
But he was just inspired by what he was around,
and as soon as he like branched off and started
doing this thing, he gained his own identity, his own
fan base, his own expectations of what his music is,
and his own you know, love and legacy.
Speaker 6 (44:54):
For what his music is. So I love I love
that kid.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
It's been it's been seven years since Macpasz. Do you
have those moment you like here.
Speaker 20 (45:02):
It kind of still bothers me just because like he's
not here, like you know what I mean. And that's
the that's the part that sucks because it happened like
close to my birthday. So every time it's around my birthday,
they celebrating the well, you know, celebrating his life too,
so I'm always reminded. I'm like, damn, bro, that was
just like it's like sometimes when people pass, it's like yo,
that's bro, Like yeah, you never really it never really
(45:24):
sit sits well, like.
Speaker 6 (45:26):
You know what I mean. So that's one of them.
Speaker 7 (45:28):
Didn't shift anything in your life?
Speaker 20 (45:29):
Nah, not really, because I knew him personally, so we
would have conversations and you know, he was like, I think,
out of respect, everybody don't speak on like how what
he was dealing with, you know what I'm saying, So
we just like talk about his legacy. But it was
it was a lot to see him go through that.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
Just to see you smile mm hmm. Was that a
difficult record? No, okay, I like to make real songs.
It was it was, like I said, it was.
Speaker 6 (45:56):
In a moment, and I talk about my mom on there.
Speaker 20 (45:59):
I talk about like the original like what was going
on when I first started making music and I brought
it till now, and then I talk about my sibling
who passed away on there as well.
Speaker 6 (46:07):
So no, it's not difficult for me.
Speaker 7 (46:09):
Is it therapeutic in a way, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (46:11):
Yeah, I will say that.
Speaker 20 (46:12):
I think it's just like for me, I have to
talk about everything, like I can't just I can't just
give you like one side of like what's going on,
and a lot of people they may or may not
want to hear that. But for the people who do,
I make sure that that stuff is there, and I
make sure that it's it's current and that it's real
for them to go through too.
Speaker 7 (46:32):
Hey with is man, keep doing what you do. Man,
you are a blueprint.
Speaker 6 (46:36):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
Whether people realize it or not, you know what I'm saying.
From the music aspect, even to the entrepreneurial aspect, you
got strange weed, you got mushrooms, you got liquid death Liquid.
Speaker 7 (46:47):
Look with death that.
Speaker 19 (46:51):
For you?
Speaker 3 (46:52):
Oh my god?
Speaker 21 (46:55):
Explain that?
Speaker 6 (46:55):
How did you get involved early before they even took off?
Speaker 20 (46:58):
Like it was like hey, move bam and the whole
business thing and the whole you be a part.
Speaker 6 (47:04):
Of this, we do that and with Death.
Speaker 20 (47:09):
Yeah, this was Yeah, I've been I've been a part
of this company almost ten years now.
Speaker 21 (47:15):
Liquid that yeah, wow, every yes, that's so everywhere. The
first time I saw it, I was like, what why
are you drinking that? And then they explained that it
was water? Yeah, and I was like, oh okay, but
even the can in the way that is branded, it
just fits your whole esthetic. Yeah, that's what else do
you do business wise on the back end at Like
I mean, if you want to talk about it, like
there's a whole portfolio back there that the people might
(47:36):
not like.
Speaker 20 (47:36):
You, said McQueen, But we we're part of that whole
company though, the whole duce and bel air and all
of that.
Speaker 5 (47:42):
Oh.
Speaker 6 (47:43):
P f L as well. I don't know if you
guys have.
Speaker 20 (47:44):
Heard a Professional Fighters League, but I'm involved with them too.
We just bought Bellator's and UFC and there's PFL PFL.
Speaker 4 (47:52):
Yeah, yeah, I'm down with them too.
Speaker 21 (47:59):
Yes, I made it here.
Speaker 4 (48:00):
Come on now, it's easy for whiz y'all cool. I
came to see y'all Christians.
Speaker 7 (48:04):
Hey, you're about to go on to the tailor game World.
Taylor Gang in the world.
Speaker 6 (48:08):
Yep, Taylor Game in the world.
Speaker 20 (48:09):
Chris you Knowles used to follow me on all socials
TikTok Wiz Khalifa Instagram whis Kalifa x wiz Khalifah.
Speaker 7 (48:18):
It's wiz Kalief for the breakfast club.
Speaker 9 (48:20):
You're checking out the breakfast club.
Speaker 7 (48:24):
I was born to Donkey.
Speaker 6 (48:26):
It's the Donkey of.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
The bunch of.
Speaker 12 (48:34):
Today.
Speaker 7 (48:35):
That's pretty.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
Devil breakfast club.
Speaker 4 (48:43):
You're gonna get the dusky other day soon then, well,
sexy red Donkey of today goes to five Memphis Men.
Michael Sayanders eighteen, Rashawn Bryant twenty two, Jordan Smith nineteen,
mandre Cole May's eighteen and Desmond Subbery eighteen. All of
them have been arrested, and youngcle Shlin needs to let
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all u y ns know something. Please please please stop
with the organize crime seriously, man, if you can create,
you know, a criminal enterprise, and you can also you
also have the brains to start some type of small business.
I'm just sick of hearing about young people coming together
to form drug rings and fraud schemes, even organized stuff.
If you can put so much time and energy and
(49:24):
doing the wrong thing, then you can put that same
time and energy into doing the right thing. Okay, you
youngins are not applying yourself properly, and you could be.
And that's what frustrates me the most. Okay, unity and
group operation is a musk. But why do we only
seem to see unity in group operation when folks are
coming together to commit crimes and this country not playing
with you? Okay, they are ready at all times. They
(49:45):
introduce you to their good friend Rico, and these five
Memphis men sadly are the latest example of that. Would
you like to know what the criminal behavior was Would
you everybody take a deep breath, Come on to a
deep breath because this type of organized crime triggering. Let's
go to the Miami Herald for the report.
Speaker 7 (50:02):
Police.
Speaker 11 (50:03):
Tennessee cops say traffic came to a halt at a
downtown Memphis intersection when five men leapt from their car
and began twerking before baffled motorists in Tennessee. It happened Monday,
March tenth, about three blocks east of the Mississippi River,
and the dancing was still in progress when a police
lieutenant drove up. What the officer saw was a twenty
sixteen Chevy Malibu blocking traffic at a green light and
(50:24):
four men twerking around the car outside. A fifth man
was spotted dancing on the car's hood. The five men
were taken into custody so the offense would not happen again,
and they were charged with obstructing traffic. The men ranged
in age from eighteen to twenty two. A motive behind
the stunt was not released.
Speaker 4 (50:41):
Five Memphis men got together to disrupt the lives of
law abiding citizens just trying to go about their day.
A vehecular blockade caused by booty. That's what this was. Hey,
Michael Rassan, Jordan Mandri Desmond. When you were scrubbing the ground,
cheeks the concrete, did you think about the ambulance you
may be keeping from getting to the hospital. Just got
a job, first day of work and they about to
(51:02):
be late because of your traffic tampering through torque terrorism.
This should be an episode of law on order tork
Victims Unit.
Speaker 7 (51:09):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (51:09):
Not only is this a criminal enterprise, it's a whole production.
You all probably had glorilla blasting, Okay, cameras out just
to synchronize routine of reckless rump shaking. Why first degreef
for loneius fraggle maggatry. That's what this is, okay, the
unlawful act of throwing it back in a way that
disturbs the peace, blocks traffic, and disrupts people's everyday lives.
(51:34):
Why we cannot let the ass cartel get away with this?
Are we really gonna sit back and allow an underground
network of professional rump shakers to disrupt society? People like
this don't think of anybody but themselves. The only real
luxury any of us have is time. People, Okay, because
it doesn't come back. So imagine you running late for
something important, rushing to pick your kids up, trying to
(51:56):
make your Brazilian wax appointment. I have one today, by
the way, and you're stuck in traffic because five grown
ass loose booty bandits decided to turn the highway into
Magic City Monday. They are all charged with obstructing a
highway or passageway. But I feel like this should be
a free cocase. This is a free cocase.
Speaker 7 (52:14):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (52:14):
There has to be a stiffer punishment for this organized
booty movement because this was a coordinated effort to weaponized
the wobble in public. Where is President Trump to signed
an executive order to stop discrete scripting syndicate?
Speaker 7 (52:26):
Huh?
Speaker 4 (52:26):
If he doesn't intervene, this could get out of control. Okay,
men will mimic this behavior all over America. This could
get out of hand. Do you really want criminal organizations
dedicated the torque related infractions popping up all over the country?
Do we really want booty trafficking?
Speaker 7 (52:41):
Did he? Don't you answer that? Okay?
Speaker 4 (52:43):
The illegal transportation and distribution of reckless working across state lines.
Speaker 7 (52:47):
Do we need that? Let's do better.
Speaker 4 (52:49):
Please give Michael saying this, Rashaun Bryant, Jordan Smith, mandre
Cole Mays and Desmond Subbury the biggest he hull.
Speaker 3 (53:03):
I have a question now, if this was back in
your day, and.
Speaker 7 (53:10):
Five went back in my day, like you, we wasn't
born in nineteen hundred and.
Speaker 8 (53:13):
Seventy seven, if five women would twork it in front
of you, would you mind?
Speaker 3 (53:17):
Would you call the police? Backing?
Speaker 4 (53:18):
First of all, I don't have time for your hypotheticals.
Let's deal with the reality of the situation. So that's
what's wrong with people nowadays. They don't never want to
deal with the reality of things. Let's deal with the
shared reality. Somebody show you this muck shot.
Speaker 7 (53:29):
Look at that. Don't get bricked up over there? Can
you see this?
Speaker 3 (53:31):
Just justice?
Speaker 4 (53:32):
Can you Can you see that somebody sitting in this
picture to jail.
Speaker 7 (53:36):
I don't want you to get bricked.
Speaker 3 (53:37):
Up over there, bricked up.
Speaker 7 (53:40):
Don't get bricked up.
Speaker 3 (53:40):
It was women.
Speaker 4 (53:41):
I mean, if you try to get somewhere, that's that's right. Like,
what are we doing? This thing got nothing to do
with the agenda of nothing? Why are you disrupting traffic, stopping
people's day Okay, we got things to do. You're just
hopping out of a twenty sixteen Chevy Malibu to twerk
in the middle.
Speaker 7 (53:55):
Of the street for what five? Come on, stoping? None
of to do agenda?
Speaker 3 (54:02):
Hey, you looking at the picture because I'm.
Speaker 4 (54:05):
Trying to figure out what they all identify. It's one
with redhead right then you know what, Hey, it don't matter.
There was an executive orders, right, you're right.
Speaker 3 (54:13):
You're right, right, all right, okay, Well, thank.
Speaker 15 (54:17):
This pride every day he's talking about, all.
Speaker 3 (54:21):
Right, well, thank you for that dog in the day.
Speaker 6 (54:23):
The breakfast Club.
Speaker 7 (54:26):
Yeah to Breakfast Club, Charlamagne and God. Lauren l. Ross
is here. Just hilarious, is here?
Speaker 5 (54:33):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (54:34):
Who's feeling in? For invY?
Speaker 6 (54:35):
Lauryn L.
Speaker 7 (54:35):
Rose is feeling in? Isn't he feeling in? He's here?
Speaker 3 (54:38):
I'm here, she's feeling in?
Speaker 7 (54:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (54:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (54:40):
He's a guest today though, because his new book Real Life,
Real Family with the Queen of the House Giah Casey
is out right now, how you feeling here?
Speaker 1 (54:50):
By being given the opportunity to write a book about
something that is the most important thing to me, the
thing I'm the most passionate about, the thing that brings
me the most joy family parenting, my household, our home.
Speaker 19 (55:04):
So yes, I'm very humbled.
Speaker 15 (55:06):
This is the second book. Yes, it's amazing. You know what,
let's just rewind it back.
Speaker 18 (55:11):
For those who don't know who is the kse Ccrew?
Where did that name come from? How did y'all get started?
Speaker 3 (55:18):
Do you remember the carew Yes? Our last name?
Speaker 7 (55:21):
What do you mean?
Speaker 10 (55:21):
No?
Speaker 19 (55:21):
No, no, But do you remember how we came up
with the name.
Speaker 3 (55:24):
Come up with the name.
Speaker 1 (55:24):
We were doing our first podcast and it was before
we were doing like the audio version of the video version.
It was just the audio version, and we started the
podcast without a name, and we sat there and we
kind of was coming up with like different names, and
one of us said, well, how about the k C crew.
Speaker 19 (55:42):
You know, our last name is Casey. We have a
whole crew of kids, a whole gaggle. What about the
k C crew?
Speaker 1 (55:46):
And then people you know, DMed us and emailed and whatnot,
and they said, yeah, we love that name.
Speaker 19 (55:51):
We love that name. So we decided to call ourselves
the k CY Crew.
Speaker 7 (55:54):
Amazing that it came about.
Speaker 21 (55:56):
And whenever you post on social you always hashtag the
create the Casey Crew. Yes, MV does as well. But
one of the things that you guys do really good
from the podcast to bringing it online is you pay
attention to the comments and the responses Kia. Yeah, and
you guys bring them into the podcast, but you also
reflect on them on social media. So I want to
read one of the posts that we pulled and I
(56:18):
thought that this was great. You inspired me. This is
someone commenting to you guys, you inspired me. I wish
all parents had this level of intention, planning and vibe.
Truth is, most parents, moms are stressed, over worked by
trying to make ends meet, in harboring trauma. Therefore, it's
passed down to the children. You've passed down light and
love because of that and because of what you are
high five to all of the parents during their best
(56:40):
and you use that as a moment to talk about like, no,
it gets a little crazy over here, but oh yeah,
but it's important because when you if you've ever been
around your family, it is a lot of love and
a lot of light. But I'm sure on inside things
get crazy.
Speaker 19 (56:52):
Well, you know, that's a big misconception.
Speaker 1 (56:54):
People assume that because you live a certain lifestyle or
because you've earned a certain financial status that you don't
have the same problems that they have, you know, So
that comment really really stood out to me because she
spoke on the troubles and the trauma and the word
trauma that she used, and Rashan will speak on the
(57:15):
word trauma sometimes he feels as though it's a word
that's overused, but it's a word that represents something that
so many people endure. The difference now is that we
have words to identify how we feel and what we
go through, and it's articulated. Because when our feelings and
our experiences are articulated, then you're able to communicate. People
(57:38):
are able to understand you, You're able to understand other people.
Speaker 19 (57:41):
You're able to have empathy.
Speaker 1 (57:43):
And compassion for other people because now we're all speaking
in universal language. Like the word triggered, like the word trauma,
like the word of gas. You know, these are things
that some may think are overused now, but yes, but
there is value there. There is value there because now
we can see each other, we understand each other.
Speaker 7 (58:03):
When you're trying to create.
Speaker 4 (58:04):
A safe space, you know, how is it to venture
into an unsafe space like.
Speaker 7 (58:08):
The comments, especially when somebody looks on the air every day.
Speaker 5 (58:11):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (58:12):
You have an opinion about every day.
Speaker 1 (58:14):
So I read every single comment.
Speaker 19 (58:20):
I interact. It started when I had a lower follower account.
Speaker 1 (58:25):
It started because I always felt that if someone follows me,
that's an investment. In a small investment, maybe, but it's
an investment that they put into me. And they're looking
at my content content, they're looking at my pictures. And
you left a comment, I want to respond back to you.
I used to respond to almost every comment, you know,
(58:47):
but then when my followers went up, I wasn't really
able to do that, and that was something that you know,
I had to take that on the chin. I wasn't
able to. But it's a sign of respect. And you said,
why do I do that to myself? Because I'm strong
enough to do that. I'm strong enough to do that.
The comments don't if they are negative, and I have
to say, I don't receive a lot of negative comments, thankfully,
(59:09):
thank god.
Speaker 19 (59:10):
But if they are negative, I look at it as insight.
Speaker 1 (59:13):
I might ask myself, why might someone have that perspective
to me? It feeds my mental because I'm a thinker.
I'm a deep thinker. I'm all over things. I love
to understand people. So for me, the comments are food,
and they also bring me happiness when they're good. It
lets you know that you're reaching someone, you're whatever it
is that you're putting out because it's in the sense
(59:35):
of sharing.
Speaker 19 (59:35):
There's a lot of things that I don't share, so if.
Speaker 1 (59:37):
I choose to share and it's well received, then that's
a good feeling. I think that's why a lot of
people are on or part of the.
Speaker 19 (59:43):
Reason why a lot of people are on social media.
Speaker 1 (59:45):
You know what I mean, And I'm strong enough to
do so, and that's because of the way that I
was raised. I was raised to be a very strong
and resilient woman. It comes directly from my parents. I'm
fortunate in the sense that I can look back and
identify things about the way that I was raised that
(01:00:06):
created the individual, the woman, the mother, the wife that
I am, and it's for me. It's a very beautiful thing.
Both of my parents are no longer here, so to
be able to say, wow, when my mother did this
every single day, or when she took me here once
a week, or when she said this to me, and
those compliments and that the way that she fed me
(01:00:28):
and she fed my soul and the joy that I
experienced and the amount of fun that I had as
a kid, Like I loved my life.
Speaker 19 (01:00:35):
And it's not because we were wealthy. We were not.
Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
We're a middle class family. I'm from Brooklyn, from East Flatbush.
We weren't raised you know, like I'm from an urban area.
And it's not had nothing to do with money. I
had nothing to do with wealth. It had everything to
do with what my parents poured into my home and
the love that I felt. And that is what we
(01:00:58):
put into writing this book. There's a lot of books
that we could have written, you know, so many ideas came.
Oh because Real Life or Love was a huge success.
It was a national bestseller. So it's like, go you
write a book about this. We said, we want to
write a book about family. It's what we know best.
It's what we know best. We've had so many ups,
so many downs, so many wins, so many losses, so
(01:01:20):
many things that we thought we were doing right that
we weren't. That we had to regroup and make sure
that we were balanced, you knows, as a married couple.
Because when we didn't agree, it's like my way is better,
know what my way is? Better and this, you know,
we had to come to a meeting of the minds. Yeah,
you know what I mean. So a relationship, you know,
the relationship grew, you know, because we had to learn
(01:01:42):
how to see eye to eye as parents. So there
was just there was many many ups and downs, and
we wanted to pour that all into a book, you know,
we wanted to let everyone know, like it's really that
village mentality. It's really that like we are a community,
especially our black community, because I'm black.
Speaker 22 (01:02:00):
Yes, yeah, yeah, for the record, for the record, Spanish,
but I know that you're well aware because you speak
to things of this nature often.
Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
But our history is being erased in schools and it's
being stripped away silently in society. So the foundation starts
in our homes. We have to teach children how to
identify themselves. We have to teach children that sense of
(01:02:41):
belonging and they have to understand that they come from
something meaningful. And if you leave it up to society
to teach them that, you're going to wind up with
children that are lost, that are overlooked, that don't know
how to identify themselves, that get taken advantage of, and
that are susceptible to what society wants for them. So
(01:03:03):
for us, our core, our nucleus, our foundation, our home
supersedes anything else in this world.
Speaker 19 (01:03:10):
We put our family first.
Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
When we come back, we have more week. Gia Casey,
our book Real.
Speaker 8 (01:03:16):
Life, Real Family is in stores right now. A Guide
to Raising Your Powered Children will be back in minutes.
Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
Is the Breakfast Club The Morning.
Speaker 8 (01:03:26):
Jess, Hilari and Charlamage the God we are the Breakfast Club.
Law LaRosa is here as well as we're kicking it
with Gia Casey. Our new book, Real Life, Real Family
is out today. You can pick it up at Amazon,
Bonds and Nobles, or Audible.
Speaker 18 (01:03:39):
Jess, would you say that you and and we have
two different parenting stuffs?
Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
Absolutely the more lenient parent.
Speaker 7 (01:03:47):
Who's the more lenient parent?
Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
It depends what it is.
Speaker 8 (01:03:51):
You know, everybody knows my dad is retired police officer
and ex military, So I'm disciplined.
Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
I was the yell of the screamer because.
Speaker 8 (01:03:57):
I said, so, Gia is a lot different, like seven hours,
like she wants to know why.
Speaker 7 (01:04:05):
Yeah, did you feel that? I thought she likes to
break down.
Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
You don't get it, You're gonna get it.
Speaker 7 (01:04:09):
By the end of the right exactly.
Speaker 8 (01:04:13):
So you got to think, really think before you speak
to up because she's like, all right, explain that, like
I just said it just because no, no, no, explain this.
But so I'm more like, because I said so, She's
more like, well, you can't go to the more because
of this, because this could happen. Explain your parents, because
now mine is my dad was like no, and you
didn't ask why, it just what it was.
Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
What it was you just figured out later is a
little different.
Speaker 7 (01:04:35):
I prefer the explanation.
Speaker 19 (01:04:36):
Yeah. So that's how my parents were with me.
Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
I knew that my parents were invested in me living
a happy, fulfilled and fun life, and we didn't go
lightly on the fund. And because I knew that at
the end, and my parents never said no just for
the sake of saying no. Because parents are overworked and
they are stressed, and the last thing they want to
(01:04:59):
hear and they walk through the door is mommy, can.
Speaker 19 (01:05:02):
I can you take me here? Can you buy me this?
Can we watch this together? Can we go like flow down?
Speaker 6 (01:05:07):
No?
Speaker 19 (01:05:08):
And sometimes you say no, you don't even know why
you're saying no. That's not a good parenting. Technique. You
really have to take a moment. You have to take
a beat.
Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
We all have to take a beat to listen to
our children and be patient. And because I knew that
my parents were invested in me that way, I knew
that when they said no, there was a good reason.
Speaker 5 (01:05:27):
Yea.
Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
How do you make sure you're raising the kids out
of love and not fear?
Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Though that's such a good question, it comes with the explanations,
do you know what I mean. I don't tell them
you can't do this and you can't do that. Why
because I said so, Let.
Speaker 19 (01:05:41):
Me explain to you why. You know, sometimes we'll watch.
Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
The news together, you know, when they're at an appropriate
age at about nine years old. You know, I think
that they're mature enough to ingest certain things. So what
I do is I would record it on my DVR
and then cherry pick different stories that I think that
are appropriate, that speak to the protect the measures that
we take on them, you know what I mean. So
it's like, if I see a child abduction that's not
(01:06:06):
too traumatic, I might save that and then show it
to a child that's old enough.
Speaker 16 (01:06:11):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
I did it with Madison, I did it with Logan
and I find that they take that into their adult
lives and they're very, very like Madison walks around like
a police officer.
Speaker 19 (01:06:22):
She has a boyfriend.
Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
His name is Andrew, and when they go into a restaurant,
she's the one that sits facing the door. She feels
like the protective force in that relationship because her head
is always on swoovel, you know what I mean. She
could tell you a car that was driving six cars ahead,
you know, and she's always paying attention to license plates.
When she was young, I used to go through like
(01:06:46):
in case you get kidnapped scenarios because it's the type
of information.
Speaker 19 (01:06:50):
That can save a life. Girls are being taken. So
if you have.
Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
A young girl, it is very proactive to educate them
about the realities and the tricks and the cons that people.
You know, because even me as proactive as I try
to be, that whole technique with a baby crying outside
your house, I would I would be inclined to open
the door if I hear a baby crying and someone
that sounds like a mother yelling and screaming outside the house.
(01:07:19):
I am that type of person, but me, but now
I am I am. I would my heart with my
I would be inclined to open that door. But now
with all the knowledge and some of the good things
about social media is that so much knowledge is being spread,
(01:07:39):
so now we're consuming good information as well. So I
heard that, I'm like, wow, that's absolutely right. It jogs
your thinking.
Speaker 19 (01:07:47):
It makes you say, oh, wait a minute.
Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
I do have to put myself first, even if someone else,
a stranger, seems to be in need. I have to
prioritize myself, my home, my family. So you know, it's
it's important to spread information and to teach your kids,
even though it may be a little scary, but you
do have to do it in a way where it
doesn't incite fear.
Speaker 21 (01:08:07):
How y'all pick and choose? What do y'all like? What
y'all decide to be transparent about? Like it's just so
much your kids are getting older and they're like, you know,
like they they're wanting to walk by themselves with their friends.
Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
I would know if it was up.
Speaker 8 (01:08:17):
To me, I'm transparent with everything. Right has to hold
back a lot, like for instance, like with Logan, right,
Logan when he was in high school used to get
picked on all the time, but he used to get
picked on guess for what reason?
Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
No, because because Charlamagne, yes, yes, so.
Speaker 8 (01:08:34):
When you gave me to ask, that's why he gave
me the buck cake.
Speaker 7 (01:08:43):
Not much better.
Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
You know, I'm not about it used to be getting
made fun of course of that.
Speaker 8 (01:08:56):
So but the reason I'm so transparent is there's so
many things family and people dealing with the same things
would never want to talk about it scared to. So
that's why I talked about the orgasm thing in the
first book. That's why in this in the second book,
we talk about, you know, the time that thing from
the first and.
Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
Every view every.
Speaker 8 (01:09:19):
You want to do some right, no, even like in
this book we talk about the time that that U
Logan found a bloody condom at one of his friend's house.
Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
So he can't but he's comfortable.
Speaker 6 (01:09:32):
Why you're looking at that, It wasn't mine.
Speaker 22 (01:09:36):
He's like, oh he fout bloody house a.
Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Right friend friends and and he was like maybe nine
years old, nine years old, about nine years old, but
he was comfortable enough.
Speaker 19 (01:09:50):
To was in the basement and the little boy had
an older brother.
Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
Yeah, so she had that's what we had the sex
talk and had to have the sex talks with.
Speaker 7 (01:10:08):
Logan and that what kind of sex talk?
Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
Though it wasn't a backdoor sex talk.
Speaker 5 (01:10:13):
That ain't just.
Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
They got a full blown sex talk. They had to
understand because if you leave it back.
Speaker 7 (01:10:26):
That's what I'm really trying to figure out. Why was
the condon bloody? I'm really when somebody ran red?
Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
Like yeah, somebody, but.
Speaker 15 (01:10:40):
Somebody ran red.
Speaker 21 (01:10:41):
Don't be like a first time thing.
Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Yeah yeah, but no they at that point I found
that they were old enough and mature enough, and you're
they're encountering things now, these conversations are being had amongst
their peers, and I knew that if I didn't set
them straight, that they were going to be absorbing all
of this wrong information and wrong ideas. So I told
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him sex feels good. It's a pleasureful experience. God made
us that way because God wants us to reproduce. He
wants us to create offspring. So he made it something
that we would enjoy. But it's meant for someone that
you love, and that's the reason why. So they're like, oh, okay,
so what is it like and what did you say? Okay,
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if I'm being honest, I told them that there is
a penis, and there is a vagina and my son
Logan was like, so like this.
Speaker 15 (01:11:38):
I was like, yeah, something like that.
Speaker 19 (01:11:41):
I said, you know, some people look at it as
a negative thing.
Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
No, no, No, he really didn't know.
Speaker 21 (01:11:47):
He really didn't.
Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
He really didn't.
Speaker 19 (01:11:50):
Even like my eleven year old son right now, he
does not know. So when they asked me questions that
I don't want them to know about. And he's older
than Logan was.
Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
But now with I have a better grip on his
friends and a grip on what he's exposed to on
his phone and whatnot in parameters boundaries. So I'm really
abreast of what he knows and what he doesn't and
our lines of communication are way better.
Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
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Our new book, Real Life, Real Family is out today.
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Speaker 7 (01:12:23):
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Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
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Speaker 18 (01:12:43):
Jess, you have six kids, so is there anything that
you felt like in the beginning, I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
And until y'all got to that six.
Speaker 19 (01:12:52):
Kid, of course, yeah, Like what were some of the
I'll give you another.
Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
Thing, but you didn't know. You just was like, well
man and Raseean winging.
Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
This, I'll give you an example. So one of the
fails and this was something that we disagreed on. So
it was the explaining everything to the kids. I have
the patience to do it. And he really is a
because I said so type of guy and it worked
beautifully with Madison, but with Logan from a young age,
I would explain everything to him and he's a mama's.
Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
Boy times thirty, you know what I mean.
Speaker 19 (01:13:24):
Like we're very very close.
Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
But it kind of went wrong with him because what
we found was that we created an environment where he
felt that he was entitled to an explanation and he
felt as though because we gave him too safe of
a space, that he could challenge me and he can
challenge a decision that I made. So we had to
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dial that back to boundaries and then we had to
teach boundaries and let him know his place. So that
was a fail in a sense. And Rashamad always look
at me like, see I told you, Like see I
told you, because.
Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
He's the bad guy, because now I got to go
discipline that. So now me and Logan get into it.
Speaker 7 (01:14:07):
And now you can't beat Logan because Logan.
Speaker 8 (01:14:11):
So now I got a discipline Logan, and then me
and Logan get into it. But one thing about Logan
and all of our kids, which is the craziest thing,
is they're very forgiven. Like with Logan, I have to
get sometimes so disrespectful for him to understand. And the
next day he's like, hey Dad, what's up. And I'm like,
hey Dad, what's up. But that's how he is, and
he just has conversations. But we have those conversations and
we understand and we talk. But he's he's the one
that just like his mom love.
Speaker 7 (01:14:33):
Did y'all have a family mission state?
Speaker 6 (01:14:35):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (01:14:36):
What is the mission statement?
Speaker 8 (01:14:37):
And tell people the importance of that, well, just so
we know we don't have it on our wall and
then make the kids read it when they walk in
the house.
Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
It's it's not like that.
Speaker 8 (01:14:45):
So our mission statement is just something that we, you know,
as a family, we all live by, right and I'll
read some of them. And the reason is is we
are a close unit. Right, So if you see us together,
we're all always out together. You see me the other
day with Jackson, You've seen me before for so the
misterstatement is we are a unit, right. We all ride
together like we are really a unit, a unit. I'm
an only child, so I'm heavy into taking care of
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each other. We respect each other, of course, simple like
we make sure that you know, we respect each other's feeling.
We always have each other's backs. That's one thing that
we always do, and it's you know, sometimes when we
have conversations up heare, I always talk about my kids.
Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
So when they see stuff on social media at.
Speaker 8 (01:15:22):
Times I have to stop them because they will go in,
especially Logan Logan, Oh yeah. We always love to uplift
each other and point out the good in one another, right.
We see that more especially with our girls in dance
because they compete against each other a lot. So when
they do, we have to make sure that regardless of
what happens. Like a couple of weeks ago, London lost
and we thought London got jerked. So I told you know,
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I had a conversation with Brooklyn and Brooklyn was like, Dad,
don't worry, I'm gonna get first the second four. And
she went out there and busted.
Speaker 7 (01:15:48):
Ask that first second.
Speaker 19 (01:15:49):
She got first place, and you know, gave the.
Speaker 8 (01:15:52):
First place to her sister because that's what it was.
We represent each other at all times. That's how it
always is. So we always tell our kids if we're
not there, you make sure that those parents come back
and say, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
He was such a pleasure. He was polite, he was
this even with Jackson at the game.
Speaker 8 (01:16:06):
You know, Jackson said thank you a million one time,
so you said hello million one times, because that's what
he's taught to do.
Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
That you show respect with that.
Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
My goal for my kids is that when they leave
our house, I want everyone that they come in contact
with to know that they're well loved. What we teach
you inside this house you exemplify outside of this house.
And these are things that a lot of parents don't
put into perspective when raising.
Speaker 19 (01:16:31):
Children because what do we usually do. We take, like,
you know, an idea, and we throw it up against
the wall. We see if it sticks or not. You
know what I mean, Oh that worked, Oh that didn't, okay,
But a lot of.
Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
People don't have something tangible that they can go back
to and be like, this is a way to create
a foundation, this is a way to create a structure.
And because we had so many ups and downs, we
were able to do that and put it in one place.
Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
And I think the biggest story I now you hate
want to tell a story was Jackson.
Speaker 5 (01:16:58):
Right.
Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
So, we had a parent teaching night a couple of
weeks ago and a teacher came up to me. Teacher,
I had no idea you know who he was night Right.
So he walks up to me. He was like, are
you Jackson's dad? And I'm like, yeah, what a teacher
usually asked that usual bs right? So I'm like, oh,
here we go.
Speaker 7 (01:17:12):
What did Jackson do?
Speaker 8 (01:17:13):
And he was like, I just want to tell you,
you know, Jackson did something that no child or adult
has done in my life. The other day, I'm walking
down the hall that Jackson comes running.
Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
Up to me and he goes, you know, are you okay?
And the teacher was like, what do you mean? He
was like, you just don't look as happy as usually do,
or you are right? Is anything bothering you?
Speaker 8 (01:17:27):
Would you like to have a conversation with me and
just talking through like what he's like, Now you just
don't seem as happy as you do, but don't let
things stress you out. Just pray on it and tomorrow
be better, right and if you need to talk to me.
Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
Come talk to me.
Speaker 8 (01:17:42):
And he said Jackson ran off and he was like,
I've never had an adult or a child ever do
that to me. So he was like, whatever you're doing
at home, continue that, and you know, I mean that
just shows what the kids are learning at home is
worth everyone.
Speaker 7 (01:17:53):
So you need to report that teacher too. He don't
need to be in the school.
Speaker 15 (01:18:00):
Was like, you got some time.
Speaker 7 (01:18:08):
There's such a beautiful thank you, you know, have you?
Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
Thank you for pulling up and for everybody else. We
just want to add this last part.
Speaker 8 (01:18:20):
We actually wrote it with somebody that helped us out
with MS and helped us with different phrases and helped
us with made sure that we were actually doing the
right thing when it came to raising our kids.
Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
Yes, so we wrote it alongside a psychologist because yes,
because we wanted to make sure that our outlooks were
were on the level that I would.
Speaker 19 (01:18:40):
Want to put it out to the public.
Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
I wanted the psychological research and quarterbacking behind the way
that we parent to pretty much put a stamp on
it to know that what we're doing not just from
our personal experience driven point of view is sound, but
from a psychological point of view is also sound. I
wanted to make sure that alongside the truth and the
transparency and the experience that we had that backing to
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the book as well. I wanted that level of value
in the book as well. So and also, you know,
if you have a child with anxiety, add ADHD, other setbacks,
other disabilities, you know, we speak to you in this
book as well, because those people are very like they
don't have that many resources.
Speaker 19 (01:19:23):
This book is for anyone who is a parent, a
single parent, a parent.
Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
That is married, maybe about to have kids next time,
someone that.
Speaker 19 (01:19:31):
Wants to have a child. Thank you, It's it's it's
it's forever.
Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
It's a very relatable book, and there's a lot of
exercises in the book. We kind of also created it
in like a workbook style, so there's a lot of reflections.
There's a lot of places in there for you to
answer questions so you can kind of analyze yourself and
understand your own point of view in a way of
like articulation, where if you haven't really thought about certain things,
it'll jog you to think about things. And even if
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you don't do, don't take our take, it encourages you
and helps you to come up with your own takes
on parenting.
Speaker 7 (01:20:06):
So happy to real family. Casey crew is the breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
You're checking out the breakfast Club morning.
Speaker 8 (01:20:15):
Everybody is DJ Envy, Just Hilarius, Charlamagne, the gud.
Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
We are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 8 (01:20:20):
La La Rosa is here and we got some special
guests joining us this morning. We have Dante Banks and
we have Kevin Freeman. Welcome fellas, how you guys doing
this morning?
Speaker 7 (01:20:30):
Tell the people who, well, who y'all are, first of all,
so they get some context.
Speaker 23 (01:20:34):
I'm Dante Banks, I'm Little Dirk's father, and I'm Kevin Freeman.
I'm the executive director for Little Dirk's non profit Neighborhood Heroes.
Speaker 7 (01:20:42):
Okay, well, how was Dirk doing? First and foremost?
Speaker 5 (01:20:45):
Are you doing? Great? Wonderful? I just seen him this Sunday,
past Sunday. The spirit is off. You're looking forward. You
know his day in court freedom as you know, as
it's going to turn out to be, you know, releasing him.
But he's doing great. Long in there.
Speaker 8 (01:21:01):
Now you have a story as well. For people that
don't know your story, you want to put them onto
a little of your story. And who quote unquote Big
Dirk is.
Speaker 5 (01:21:08):
What Big Dirk is known in Chicago, in the streets
of Chicago. Not for good, you know. But back in
nineteen ninety three, I got called in the fest myself
caught up in the fairs, and I received a life
sentence and it took me almost twenty four years of
twenty six years to get up out of there. So
I spent most of my life, more life in jail
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than I did on the street.
Speaker 21 (01:21:33):
What was it like, you know, when you were locked
up in Dirkys here? What was out And he's climbing
and he's rising as a star, and you're like you're
seeing it, but you're not seeing it, but like you're
kind of you're calling home, you're feeling it.
Speaker 6 (01:21:44):
Like what was that?
Speaker 5 (01:21:44):
Like? Oh, that was amazing. At first, I'm on the
phone as any father, would you know, go to school,
get a trade, go to college, you know, get a trade.
That's I don't want to hear about it. While everybody
said it gonna be a rapper, you know, everybody said
even to play ball and different things like this. You know,
that's every kid's dream. So I didn't really take it seriously.
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I'm focused on what I know to be a true career.
You're trying to get something up under your belt, and
every time I want to rap, I want to rap.
And then I asked his brother, his oldest brother, which
was d thing at the time, Donte Banks Junior. I said,
is he good?
Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
You know, is he good?
Speaker 5 (01:22:22):
Is he gonna go anywhere with this? He said, yeah,
he's good. And then it was on one old What
was that one O six in part? I'm in prison.
I look up there, I'm be on one O six
in part and I said, okay, everybody in prison, he's
gonna be on one o sixth part. So every TV
is on one O six in part. We waiting on him.
And then that's when we found out, Yeah, he he
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got a little bust bus, got a big bus.
Speaker 21 (01:22:47):
And I see you, like, even just in talking about it,
you're smiling, and it's just I can't imagine, like, you know,
just as a parent, it's like I want my child
to be successful and it's happening, and then you're in
a predicament that you're in and seeing it. It feels
good to know that, like he's carrying the family and
things are working out, and then everything that we are,
you know, seeing now happens. How did that feel when
you hurt when the indictment come down and things of
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that nature.
Speaker 5 (01:23:09):
You know, from being in there and knowing what he
up against, now you run right there so I can
be with him to help him through this, because being
an affairs ain't no small task, you know, this is
a big thing. They don't they don't give no room.
They just snatch you up with it almost and put
you in a hopeless situation. You know, everybody goes in
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kind of got to fight their way out to show
and prove that this is what it is. But you know,
it hurts to know that he has to go through
what I just went through. I have to deal with
this system now. It hurts real bad, you know, first
losing the oldest son and to the streets, and now
losing him to the government. You know. So that's why
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I'm their hands on, lawyers, hands on with him, telling
him every step of what to do now and how
to fight this.
Speaker 7 (01:23:56):
Being a person of faith, you know, you know allis
the us knower and planning. But when you lose your son,
you know, to to murder, and you lose the son
to the to the jail system, how does that make
you feel like just your faith? How did that test
your faith?
Speaker 5 (01:24:10):
Oh? It's test your faith. Will test your faith in
a way that's you have to be a parent to
understand what I'm saying here really tests you, you know.
But just like you said that faith, you know, everything
belongs to a law. They don't actually belong to me.
He just used me as a vessel, but it belongs
to him. So I just got to be patient for
what's going on here and trusting him and continue to
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make it do out with your supplication that he brings
about the victory that we are looking for in the situation,
a relief that we're looking for.
Speaker 8 (01:24:37):
I also I wanted to ask about his case so
much because the dirt that we knew that I knew
personally he was such into giving back.
Speaker 7 (01:24:45):
Right.
Speaker 8 (01:24:46):
He would call all the time about the things that
he wanted to do for Chicago, in the area that
he grew up and the things that he wanted to
change and how he wanted to give kids an opportunity
that they would think more than the street and have
things to do.
Speaker 3 (01:24:58):
So what is allzation.
Speaker 8 (01:25:00):
Is his organization still out there being able to help
or is a lot of those funds and things been
pulled from that?
Speaker 6 (01:25:05):
Absolutely?
Speaker 23 (01:25:06):
Absolutely, And so this didn't just happened yesterday, you know,
sitting down with Dirk Banks, you know, I remember the
day when he was like, keV, you know, this is
my vision. This is what I want to do. Because
he was already doing the work. He's like, Okay, but
let's let's do it for real, for real, And we
say for real, for real, let's get a registered five
oh one C three and let's really truly, you know,
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look at the impact that we can make. And one
thing that we landed on is still to this day.
It's like, Dirk, this is your vision. This is your vision,
and it's going to be our jobs. When I say
our jobs, my job, the board of directors and those
that support, we're going to help bring it to life
and to be able to look back and see from
twenty twenty and all the amazing work that he's done.
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And as you know in media, you know, a lot
of folks don't want to talk about the great things
and the positive things that individuals are out here doing.
Speaker 6 (01:25:55):
And he didn't do it for that.
Speaker 5 (01:25:56):
He did it for the fact that he know that.
Speaker 23 (01:25:58):
He said, keV, these are things that I wasn't able
to experience when I was a kid. So now that
I'm in position to do it, I'm all in, let's go.
I'm the voice. So I'm like, all right, So sitting
with him, I mean all around the clock. When I
say around the clock, I mean, as you know, he's
coming from the studio at three four in the morning.
He's calling like, listen, this is what I want to do,
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and I'm digesting and I'm saying, okay, from all the
things that I'm hearing, all the things that I feel
your passion. We created four foundation pillars based off the
things that Dirk Banks was truly invested in wanted to do,
and it started off with neighborhoods, prosperity, emerging leaders health
and wellness. So with all those four different pillars, there's
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a bucket of work that lives within everyone. So everyone
can't be the next little dirt, but everyone can't be
that guy behind the production and this is exposing these
young black boys and girls that Dirk has been doing for.
Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
A long time.
Speaker 21 (01:26:55):
I was going to ask y'all the last thing that
he did before he was taking into custody. It was
the big prayer event that he had and then he
received the keys to the city. But the mayor, I
believe it was the mayor got a lot of backlash
after he was arrested, and I think, you know, there
were certain people and things that like step back. So
how hard has it been because the organization is tied
to Dirk, Like, are y'all facing opposition or people still like, no,
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we know he's a good person.
Speaker 23 (01:27:18):
You're going to face the opposition just being a young
black artist, a young black man, a young black woman.
There's always gonna be trials and tribulations. And if we
allow one situation like that to stop us what we're doing,
and we're losing the focus of what his true mission was.
Speaker 8 (01:27:37):
Yes, all right, we have more with Dante Banks and
Kevin Freeman when we come back.
Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
Of course, Dante Banks.
Speaker 6 (01:27:42):
Is little Dirk's father. It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (01:27:44):
Good morning morning, everybody. You see j Envy, Jess Hilarious.
Speaker 8 (01:27:48):
Charlamagne the gud we are the breakfast club. Lorla Ros
is here as well. We're still kicking it with Little
Dirk's dad, Dante Banks and Kevin Freeman, who was the
executive director for Little Dirk's non profit Neighborhood Heroes Building.
Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
Now, can you give us an update on Dirk's case?
Speaker 5 (01:28:03):
Yeah? Now, one thing I can said, Well, y'all had
the question. Y'all ask Kevin how people looking at him? Now?
It ain't a place I go. It's not a place
that I go. A phone call and I don't get
what he get one support. Ain't nobody like turning a
back on him. We're saying nothing negative about other than
you know, a little blob here and now or a
podcast who's trying to get some type of recognition about
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saying some negative about him. But overall, ninety everybody's there
in a pridy support. You get many, many letters, you know,
keep your head, keep going on, You're gonna get up
out of this, you know, things of that nature there.
So the support is one hundred percent. And I love
that about him because that tell you what kind of
person he is when no one is trying to, you know,
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look at his downfall to something that we can now say, Hey,
look at him, we told about not this type of
thing here.
Speaker 7 (01:28:53):
What do y'all when y'all call out here and y'all
do these press hits? What are y'all hopes?
Speaker 5 (01:28:57):
What are y'all trying to do? We're trying to bring
a a real look, what's really? What is junior?
Speaker 6 (01:29:03):
I call him junior?
Speaker 5 (01:29:04):
What is him? What are he supposed to be looking?
You know how you supposed to view him? Don't take
allegations and make him a fact. Don't take allegations and
make it a conviction. You know, allegations are just that,
these are allegations. Give us a chance in court to
prove ourselves. Give us a chance, you know. And this
one thing again, we shout out the mayor of Chicago,
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Brandon Johnson, when they try to attack him, he said,
don't give the brother his.
Speaker 7 (01:29:32):
Process.
Speaker 5 (01:29:33):
You said, give him his chance in court. And it's
what we actually about, give our chance in court. And
we approved that all of this there's nothing but falsehood
and alive.
Speaker 21 (01:29:41):
You know, wait, when you talk about going places and
wanting the conversation to be just fair for him, even
if people are gonna have their opinions, how hard is
it for you? And you can answer this if you
want to. I know, it's a legal situation. So for instance,
like I know, I've seen reports of like there were
like text messages that allegedly were like between Dirk and
the guys who are who they threw the murder charges
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at for the thing? And then they have the verse
from his song aha, and they're trying to pin that like, yo,
this is you saying what you did? How hard is
it to go up against stuff like that? Just because
legally they're talking about that every single time he goes
in the court.
Speaker 5 (01:30:20):
It's not hard if you get all the information, but
I will refer I have to refer all these things
to the legal team because you know, this is some
of the things that they would have to answer and
give a little people understanding. He got three great lawyers
on the case, you know, so they working around the clock.
They constantly keep us updated. You know, I talk to
them regularly about the case, and so it's going good.
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You know, all these text messages, these these things. Here
they on top of all this, and like I said,
give them his day in court and they approved. You know,
what's what? What's the real truth? About these text messages, right,
how confident as a Muslim, I'm confidence a law that's
a muscling and I just continue to make do uh
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that this that were victorious in this case, and you
know that a lot of grant us the relief that
we are seeking out of us. So looking at everything,
it's weak, but we make sure continue to a lot.
Speaker 8 (01:31:17):
What about with the with the government, because you know,
the government, as we've seen what many cases before, if
they play a nasty game where they try to make
somebody look crazy so that the jury looks at them
as crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:31:29):
From the start, you know, I mean we see that
a lot, a whole.
Speaker 5 (01:31:31):
Lot, and hood on the the person that's been in
the belly of the beast, you know, I know, the fixing,
the game they they That's why, like I said, I
stay on this case looking at from every angle, cause
I know they games. I know what they play. I
know they lives, they deception. I know they'll create something,
you know, and creates a witness, you know, out of somewhere,
(01:31:53):
out of blue and if it's somebody come along, don't
nobody know who, just do and they'll put them up
there to say some things. So yeah, I definitely know
about them.
Speaker 21 (01:32:02):
And I know y'all brought up India earlier and we
found out that they were married through like the new
music and the photo on the album. What conversation do
you and Dirk had before he decided to get married?
And like what are you talking to him? As dad?
You know what I mean? Like what advice are you
giving him? Or you know how what's that like?
Speaker 5 (01:32:18):
Okay? Now as a Muslim, cause it's different for you,
right right, You got to get married. You cannot like
you sleep with a woman that you're not married to. Oh,
these are my conversations to him. You have to be married.
It's a great saying in his mom If you're not married,
we don't believe in for ication, we don't believe in adultery,
(01:32:39):
you know, sleeping outside the marriage and different things like that.
If you an interest in his sister, then let her
know who marriage that you're ready to take on the
responsibility of a husband. Oh yeah, all right?
Speaker 4 (01:32:51):
As a Muslim, are you on him about the content
of his music? Like if you know he beats his situation,
it comes home. Are you gonna tell him that musically
he should go in another direction?
Speaker 5 (01:32:59):
He told me, Oh, he told me. So I'm just
keep saying, How'm to a lie? Every time I talk
to him. He's learning more about his line and what
he supposed to be doing as a Muslim.
Speaker 7 (01:33:10):
What do he say?
Speaker 5 (01:33:11):
And he's saying that, Hey, I can't talk about these
things no more. I can't walk this way of life
no more.
Speaker 10 (01:33:17):
You know.
Speaker 5 (01:33:17):
So he already on point with all of you know,
and that's one of the things about you know, prison
give you time to really reflect, think, you time isolation
to read, study, So now you're able to you know,
you ain't distracted about these brother things. You know. This
is a this is a star, this is an artist.
He on the planes all the time, He moving all
the time, from the moment he wake up to the
(01:33:38):
moment he go to steep. He always doing something. So saying,
you know, he took his card that he became a
Muslim in prison, I mean at the prison when he
came to see me. But then this his life took
off from there. So now he got a chance now
to study. So everything that he needs to know, he
learning it right now. So he knowing, he telling me
like that, I can't talk about that no more. I
(01:33:59):
can't do this no more. I'm glad that I got married.
I'm glad that I went this the ration right here
because he's trying to see now.
Speaker 8 (01:34:07):
Wow, we'll definitely send him, send him out love man
and tell him that, you know, we we'll continue to
pray for him, man and support him.
Speaker 5 (01:34:15):
And no doubt because when I told him about this,
he said, that's beautiful. Them they right there, they gonna
keep it real.
Speaker 4 (01:34:23):
Oh yeah, we've been watching Dirk since the beginning literally
literally her up with vond and everybody. So it's like
we literally watched him grow up.
Speaker 5 (01:34:32):
And also we can't forget about our main guy with
oh Swiss. We definitely shout out to that brother man,
and that is Swiss is one of his biggest mentors.
That's the one who talks to him, keep him on point,
different things like he always calls Swiss. They're always talking
what direction? What should I do?
Speaker 18 (01:34:52):
You know?
Speaker 5 (01:34:52):
And it's good to have somebody like Swiss in this corner.
Speaker 12 (01:34:54):
You know.
Speaker 8 (01:34:55):
Absolutely Well, thank y'all for joining us, Dante Banks, Kevin Freeman,
thank you so much, and please keep it FUS updated
when you can.
Speaker 5 (01:35:02):
Yes, sir, we'll do, And I appreciate your all from having.
Speaker 3 (01:35:04):
Absolutely appreciate you some morning. It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 8 (01:35:07):
Good Morning Morning, Everybody's DJ nv Jes, Hilaria, Charlamagne, the
Gud We are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (01:35:13):
Now you've got a positive note.
Speaker 7 (01:35:14):
I do, But I want to tell people.
Speaker 4 (01:35:15):
First of all, man, make sure you go get your
tickets for the third Annual Black Effect Podcast Festival, happening
Saturday April twenty six at Pullman Yards in Atlanta, Georgia.
Speaker 7 (01:35:24):
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Speaker 4 (01:35:27):
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It's hosted by Mandy and Weezy of Decisions Decisions. We
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the positive. Notice simply this, if you're a giver, find
another giver the love because if you're a giver, likely
you've been with a lot of takers, which hurts. So
find someone who values generosity as much as you do,
who loves to give, because it's their nature, not their pathology,
(01:36:19):
just like it's your nature too. Find another giver because
you need to be given to to have a blessed breakfast.
Speaker 5 (01:36:26):
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