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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yo yo jess Hilario ass some morning, and currently we
are on vacation.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Man, totally disconnected. Yes, we're not even really here. You
think you're listening to us, but we're not.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Well, we are not. We're here in spirit.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Yeah, yeah, we're on vacation.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
So we're playing the best Donkey's the best interviews you guys,
which is the best callers and some of the best
moments the Breakfast Club has had in the last couple
of months. So sit back, relax, enjoy, and have fun.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Keep a lock.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
Red is gonna be running the boards.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
A mood days is.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
If your time to get it off your chest, way.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Up, whether you're.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Man or black, time to get up and get some
call up now. Eight hundred and five eighty five one
O five one. We want to hear from you on
the Breakfast Club. Hey, Nadine, good morning, get it off
your chest. Where you calling him from?
Speaker 5 (00:52):
First?
Speaker 6 (00:52):
I'm calling from Dallas, Okay, Dallas, what's up, Mama.
Speaker 7 (00:57):
I'm under It's a fact girl's side of dating and
I was so great.
Speaker 8 (01:04):
Guys, kick it up and read it.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
How the data fact chick?
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Is it a heavy read?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Is it thick?
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Like?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
How many pages is it?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
How many pages?
Speaker 9 (01:16):
Is It's not that it's not that that thick.
Speaker 8 (01:20):
It's like one hundred and sixteen pages. But it's the
one day read. But it's a great.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Story about about your what my dating life?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Oh you're a big girl, a dull I'm done. She
might not be big no more. It might be her
past life she's writing about.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
It was hard, it was hot for you today.
Speaker 10 (01:39):
No, it's a shy.
Speaker 11 (01:40):
Spirical look at my dating life because it's the things
that I went through and the lessons that I learned
along the way.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Okay, I'd love to read that I had a I
had a homegirl who wrote something like that before it.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Was called dating Wild Fat Wow.
Speaker 9 (01:51):
Well yeah, it's on Amazon, so it's by Nadine Jones.
Speaker 7 (01:55):
Was just see me and again, how to data fact
A fat girl to dating?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
What category is it in food?
Speaker 8 (02:03):
Home?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Jesus? What is it like? What categories?
Speaker 12 (02:07):
It's not it should be I'm asking you.
Speaker 7 (02:10):
I don't know what category is, but it's comedy.
Speaker 8 (02:13):
I think tericall So you're the type of in your finece.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
What's it called again?
Speaker 7 (02:17):
How to Date a Fat Chick?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
So if God takes you out to eat, do you
limit the food that you have so you don't look big?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
You gotta read the book.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
You're right, I'm sorry it came up as a cookbook.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
You know it didn't shut up?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
You know, How to Date a Fat Chick? Background Gods
Are Dating by Nadine Jones.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Alkay.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I like the couple.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
I like that. I like that.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
It looks like what do you call that? A cob
of a cob?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
What do you call that?
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Book?
Speaker 10 (02:43):
Yeah? Whatever that?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, I like that composition? Composition?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
But you have a go one. They did. Thank you
you too, good luck.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Hello?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Who's this?
Speaker 7 (02:55):
What's going on?
Speaker 10 (02:56):
Man?
Speaker 8 (02:56):
My name is super Truck and man I'm out of
eastern North Carolina, a man truck driver.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
What's up, super truck? How you feeling this morning?
Speaker 10 (03:03):
Man? I'm good man. I'm out here shifting kids, making
that black come out to fight?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Okay, all right, what you transporting?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I do?
Speaker 7 (03:11):
Flat Dad from Hall and Building Materials right now?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Okay, all right, we'll be safe.
Speaker 10 (03:15):
For the yo man, I just want to know. Man,
y'all got love for truckers.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Man, you damn right.
Speaker 12 (03:20):
I got love for truckers.
Speaker 13 (03:22):
You know.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
I know YouTube?
Speaker 10 (03:23):
Chess. Hey, look, I got a storm called Truck of Love.
Speaker 8 (03:27):
Man, So y'all geld his hand.
Speaker 10 (03:30):
Check it out.
Speaker 9 (03:31):
It's on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
You still got love for truck and Jesse blow home
for his brother.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I got you all right, man, be safe for them?
Speaker 9 (03:41):
Brother?
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Hello?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Who's this?
Speaker 10 (03:44):
Yo? What's upping me?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
What's up?
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Brother?
Speaker 10 (03:47):
What's up? Jess?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
How y'all doing? What that baby?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Good?
Speaker 13 (03:50):
Good?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
What's going on? Get it off your chest?
Speaker 12 (03:52):
Yo?
Speaker 10 (03:52):
I'm mad at my brother James.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
What's your brother do?
Speaker 10 (03:56):
He's yo? He set me up. I'm sick last night,
I'm feeling well. I'm at home and he lied to
his wife telling her that he was hanging out with
me all night and he wasn't.
Speaker 12 (04:08):
Oh man, I ain't tell you.
Speaker 10 (04:12):
He ain't tell me because I was dead to the world.
And his wife's called my wife asking her was he was.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
He with me?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Oh?
Speaker 12 (04:21):
Man?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
What your wife say? Yo?
Speaker 10 (04:24):
She blew his spot up like hell no, you want
to see the cameras.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Damn.
Speaker 8 (04:29):
She blew him up.
Speaker 10 (04:30):
And he's calling me up. She told him, by Yo,
you're supposed to help me up. I'm like, yo, you
should have told me first.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I hate with somebody.
Speaker 12 (04:37):
Make you a part of the lie, but don't tell
you about the lie.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Like damn dow he man because he say, now, I'm
the reason why his.
Speaker 10 (04:45):
Wife is putting him out. Now he wants to come
and stay.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
In my house.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Hell, you got the reason, and your wife ain't gonn
let him stay. Your wife's gonna let no cheat.
Speaker 10 (04:53):
At the guys, I'm shutting him over to you, envy.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I'm not sitting over to me. I got a couple
of dogs at a make sure he stay out.
Speaker 10 (05:03):
I hear that everything every when you throw it another
mixture tape out. Man, come on shop.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Playing, you'd be rapping.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
You're talking about the DJ. You be rapid.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Yeah, you're gonna get that in a while. Brother, you
know it ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Bro Oh, come on, v they ain't gonna happen. These
all these artists a lot different, man.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
But back then I would say the artists really respected
the DJ and really loved the DJ. When nexus, Yeah,
the artist was something and they would be happy to
do it.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Glad to do it. But now I ain't playing a
politics game.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Brother.
Speaker 10 (05:33):
Yeah, I know what you on Bred Cafe.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Man, shout the all right brother, you have a good
one man. All right, brother, get it off your chest.
Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. If
you need to vent, phone lines a wide open, it's
the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Good morning, the Breakfast clubs away.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Is your time to get it off your chest.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Whether you're mad or bless something, to get up and
get something. Call up now. Eight hundred five eighty five
one five one. We want to hear from you on
the Breakfast Club. Hello. Who's this? This is Walt baby
Love from Bridgeport, Connecticut. What's up?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Brother?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
What's going on with you?
Speaker 7 (06:11):
Hey?
Speaker 10 (06:11):
Listen?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I just want to say God bless you charlamagn and
Jef hilarious man for what you do on a daily basis.
Speaker 9 (06:19):
Man, it's not easy and you don't get the I
want to give you flowers while you're here.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Man.
Speaker 8 (06:25):
You guys help me every day.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Man.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
You put me in the right direction, You.
Speaker 10 (06:30):
Keep me safe, and I just want the positive vibe
to come back to you guys on a daily basis.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Man.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
I love y'all.
Speaker 10 (06:37):
Man, Thank you, welcome you too.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Hello, who's this yo?
Speaker 5 (06:43):
What's up?
Speaker 8 (06:44):
Audist replay from Chicago?
Speaker 5 (06:45):
What up?
Speaker 8 (06:46):
Town?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Replay? What's happening?
Speaker 8 (06:48):
What up?
Speaker 7 (06:49):
What up? Man?
Speaker 8 (06:49):
Look, I gotta give a shout out this morning to
Lauren Leosa.
Speaker 10 (06:53):
Man.
Speaker 8 (06:53):
She been holding down man, she been coming with good news,
good stack. Me and her the same age, man, and
I just love my age. Go hard and then baby girl,
keep doing what you're doing. You know that's what.
Speaker 14 (07:05):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
I appreciate that, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Talking to you.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, what were you saying?
Speaker 13 (07:14):
King?
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Go ahead a king?
Speaker 8 (07:17):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Man?
Speaker 8 (07:18):
Look like I said, I'm replaying. I want to probably
be on on Instagram at lady love.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Why they call you replay?
Speaker 9 (07:24):
Bro?
Speaker 12 (07:24):
Oh man?
Speaker 8 (07:25):
That's actually then they gave me. I'm an R and
B singer and uh, I don't know one of the
guys like replay. I'm like, all right, because I want
everybody to replay my phone.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Okay, brother, have a good put a little more sauce
on that. You know what I'm saying. You got to
come up with something better. Why they call you replay?
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Because when I put it down, you know, ladies love
it so much they want to see it again something you.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 8 (07:46):
Like this happened right with facts?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Oh okay, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Know something else.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I thought he was telling me he wasn't in the women.
Speaker 11 (07:56):
I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I'm like, what, excuse me?
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Hello?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Who is this?
Speaker 8 (08:00):
This is Jake Metal?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
J Madaw?
Speaker 5 (08:03):
What's up?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
If your chance?
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Ja Metal?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
The morning?
Speaker 8 (08:05):
You know I'm stressed. You know, I'm tired of people
always asking you, you know how you getting old? But
now you're gonna get married? And I tell him in
a minute.
Speaker 15 (08:14):
Dog.
Speaker 8 (08:14):
You know they're always telling you women and to get a.
Speaker 9 (08:17):
New job, and I tell them in a minute.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Though.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
You know, everyone has their own page and they want
to put you to a standard.
Speaker 10 (08:24):
And do things.
Speaker 8 (08:25):
You know how you do me, I've just turned thirty.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
That's what I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Men get that kind of pressure. I didn't know men
get that. That's not that's husually pressure that's reserved for women.
I'm talking about the marriage party.
Speaker 16 (08:37):
Do you have kids yet?
Speaker 8 (08:39):
No, That's what I'm saying. The man tell you why
I have a kid?
Speaker 9 (08:41):
I tell them in a minute, dog, you know, how
are you me?
Speaker 11 (08:45):
I'm getting close to the age, you know, thirty is
you know, it's that is that point.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
So don't you when they ask you, you know when
you're gonna get married, just be like I'm in the
men though, just say something.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Like that, you know, think so, yeah, that's what I
tell them.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
That right, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
But that's definitely if you got older parents too, because
older parents want grandparents.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I'm sure. So that's what they ask want grandparents.
Speaker 16 (09:07):
Most guys by.
Speaker 17 (09:08):
A certain age, if you don't have kids, that'd be
like or you're not married, they think something.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Older parents want grand kids. That's what I'm meaning.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Well, you'll meet you'll meet missus, mister Wright in due time.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Mister or missus, I'm no.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Have a good day, brother. You appreciate you, yes, sir?
Speaker 4 (09:27):
All right, brother, get it off your chest eight hundred
five eight five one oh five one. If you need
to vent phone lines to wide Openness to Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Good morning, the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Warning everybody, it's DJ Envy, just hilarious charlamage the god
we are the Breakfast Club law La Rosa is here
as well. We got a special guest in the building,
his new book, Who Better Than You The Art of
Healthy arrogance and dreaming big is out now, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Will Packer family, what's going on.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
And how you feel?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I'm feeling amazing, you know, I'm up here.
Speaker 18 (09:59):
I'm up here with one of the most incredible platforms
in media right now.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Interesting time in media, you know, media ebbs and flows.
Speaker 18 (10:05):
We're in an EBB right now in the movie business, Charlamagne,
you know, yeah, just you know, coming off the strikes,
coming off of COVID, like, the movie industry never really recalibrated.
So there's a lot of folks out there that are
hurting right now, a lot of folks that aren't working,
a lot of actors out of work, writers, and so
as a producer, you know, I'm just trying to keep
people hired, trying to do what I do and create content.
Most people out there, they don't realize because there's so
(10:27):
much content out there in so many streaming servicess like, oh,
everything out there, I can see whatever I want. But
actually the media companies are making a lot less. So
it's interesting time in the business.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Man.
Speaker 12 (10:37):
Who better than you is the name of the book.
What makes you decide to write this?
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Yo?
Speaker 18 (10:40):
You know, I have been in the movie game for
almost thirty years now, and I have dealt with some
of the biggest names, some of the most impressive, successful people,
some of the most toxic, insecure people. And throughout that process,
I have the set of skills that I want to
(11:02):
share with people about how you can be successful and
manifest the more full life. How you can use some
of the skills that I've learned that are transferable to
any industry to navigate be it. You want to start
a new endeavor, you want to overcome a challenge, you
want to pivot in your life. And so I'm telling
stories I've never told before, stories from dealing with you know,
(11:24):
some of my Hollywood folks. But it's really lessons, right,
It's lessons about this is how you deal with people,
how you position yourself to succeed, and how you have
healthy arrogance.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Now to be confused with toxic arrogance.
Speaker 18 (11:38):
Right, toxic arrogant walks in the room and says, I'm
better than everybody here. I'm gonna win because you're gonna lose. Right,
I'm better than you. Healthy arrogance walks in a room
and says, okay, number one, I belong in this room. Right,
the most successful people feel that they don't feel like
am I supposed to be here with all these important people.
Healthy arrogance feels like I'm supposed to be here. However,
(11:59):
I also have something.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
To add to this room.
Speaker 18 (12:02):
This room is better because I'm in it, and I'm
going to get other people to understand how they and
I have a commonality in terms of our goal. If
you can get other people to see the value in
what you're going after, then you can then get them
to row in the same direction as you.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
And work towards your own goal. That's what leadership is.
Speaker 18 (12:20):
Getting other people to realize that it's not me against you.
If I can get you to understand that together we
both benefit from working together and accomplishing things that are
my goals as well as your goals, your chance for
success is increased.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
You know, when I read about.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
You talk about healthy arrogance or hear your interview is
about healthy ar against it feels like you're saying you
just got It's like a sense of worthiness, it's value.
Speaker 18 (12:44):
It is it is very much understanding the value to
place on yourself.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Right.
Speaker 18 (12:48):
You understand, Charlotte Man, because you talk about mental health
a lot we all have this drum beat in our head, right,
it can be a negative drum beat of I'm not ready,
I'm not worthy, I don't have the skills, I'm not prepared.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
More and more you tell yourself that, the louder those
voices get.
Speaker 18 (13:01):
But there's a confidence muscle that you can build, that
you can grow by telling yourself the exact opposite, that
I am worth it, right, that I am prepared.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
But it's really about assigning value.
Speaker 18 (13:11):
The thing I say to people that understand, from the
time you are born and to the time you leave
this earth, you are building your brand everything you do, right.
I mean, you can't make mistakes. Everybody does. But every
decision you make in everything you do is building your brand,
and it is telling people what value to assign to you.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Whether that's somebody that is looking to.
Speaker 18 (13:31):
Invest in you, looking to date you, looking to just
hang out with you, you are telling them what your
value is. And you have to be healthily arrogant in
the way that you force other people to recognize your value.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
So if you don't have nobody, does that mean you
know worth nothing?
Speaker 18 (13:49):
Well, you know I'm not gonna say that. Well, you
mean like a relationship. Well, that just means that you
have to be sure that you're surrounding yourself with people
that understand your value. It might mean that you're worth
more than people want to give you credit for talking about.
It might mean you're single because other people don't recognize
your value and you're not willing to compromise for you.
Speaker 16 (14:09):
Had something to satte?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
What dog will won't they next?
Speaker 16 (14:21):
Coming this way?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
The sassiness caught me off. God, is that what it is?
Are you with your hair back?
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I'm just asking you a question because I like what
you're talking about.
Speaker 18 (14:33):
Okay, all right, well yes, absolutely so if some you know,
somebody happens to be an amazing, beautiful single sister. I
don't know you know the relationship status of everybody here,
but let's just say present company. Why Well, and she
said you had a sassy next, so she is. She
is immediately the most entertaining.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Person that.
Speaker 17 (14:54):
I want to ask you about imposter syndrome and when
you when did that? Like, when you get past that?
Did you deal with that at all yourself?
Speaker 18 (15:01):
I absolutely deal with everybody deals with Everybody gets to
a point where they feel.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Like, yo, do I belong?
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Right?
Speaker 18 (15:08):
Do I deserve to be in the most important spaces,
and I've been very, very fortunate to be in some
incredible rooms with some people that are, you know, some
of the most powerful people from around the world. As
I said, what I realize is that when I walk
in those rooms, I cannot question if I'm supposed to
be there. I need to realize what is it that
I have that nobody else in this room has, and.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
How can I double down on that?
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Right?
Speaker 18 (15:34):
So, black man, African American film, American Hollywood, not a
lot of folks at my level in the rooms that
I'm in.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Oftentimes it's all white people in those films.
Speaker 18 (15:42):
What I choose to do instead of saying, Okay, I'm
the only black person in this room. I know they're racist.
I know they looking at me a certain way. I
know they have a negative perception. I'm walking in the
room and I'm thinking, Okay, you know what, I'm bringing
something that nobody else can bring. When I talk about
my perspective, when I talk about my audience, when I
talk about my commune, nobody else can debate me on
that because I'm the only one with that lived experience,
(16:04):
whatever it is in the rooms and the circles that
you're in. What's the unique thing that you have, and
then you triple down on that that will help with
that imposter syndrome. The other thing is that you have
to understand like you don't have to be somebody that's
just born with like an overabundance of confidence.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
It's something that you can build.
Speaker 18 (16:20):
But you do have to build it by putting a
success with a success with a success, right, Like just
like a boum Deg said, check with a check, with
a check, you got to build the successes. And sometimes
to do that you got to come back and not say, Okay,
my first success has to be so big, right, just
accomplish something.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I call it fabricating momental.
Speaker 18 (16:40):
I believe that sometimes we get stuck on the first rum,
the very first thing I'm trying to get started. I
don't have any money, I don't know people, don't have
a network. That's okay, right, Don't make the first thing
you're trying to do to climb the mountain, right, that's
a lot.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
That's a momentous task.
Speaker 18 (16:56):
Make the first thing by the shoes, hike and boost,
then buy a rope, then drive and.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Look at it.
Speaker 18 (17:01):
Well, you know you've done three things right, get started.
Do something that helps to build that confidence.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
We all need that. We got more with Will Packer
when we come back.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
His new book, Who Better Than You, The Art of
Healthy Arrogance and Dreaming Big is out now.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Is the Breakfast Club Good Morning, the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
Morning.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Everybody is dej envy just hilarious, Charlamagne the God we
are the Breakfast Club Lone the Roaster's head with us
as well. We're still kicking it with Will Packers new book,
Who Better Than You, The Art of Healthy Arrogance and
Dreaming Big, is out now, Charlamagne.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
I want to get to the audit the pivot, but
first I want to ask you about the chapter that says,
seeing your laney, Yeah, just just make it wide, lean
into your thing?
Speaker 9 (17:41):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
How does one avoid being typecasted by leaning into their thing?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
And when?
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Do you know?
Speaker 3 (17:47):
The pivot?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, you know it.
Speaker 18 (17:49):
The whole point of that chapter is about when you
have something that you do really, really well, because many
times people are afraid of being locked into something that
people will think, that's all I can do, right, But
if you do that thing, and you do it really
really well, do not stop.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Okay, don't stop.
Speaker 18 (18:07):
The most successful people have a thing that they do
and they do it well. Then they use the ability
to be successful in a lane to go out and
do something else. I'm only able to write this book
with a major publisher because I've been very successful in
a particular media.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Right now, I'm able to go and do other things.
So don't worry about that. Oh well, I can do
so much other stuff. What's the thing you do really well?
Do that?
Speaker 18 (18:29):
Triple down on that. Be the best person in that
particular field. And by the way, find your passion within that.
Right too many times people are telling me, well, I'm
not passionate about something. I gotta wait to find my
passion and before I go out and work really hard.
And I'm telling you, you're building your brand from day one.
Work hard today. I didn't have a passion to be
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a filmmaker. I will admit that, but I did not.
That was not my dream growing up. But I found
that I was really good at knowing how to hire
actors and raise money and self distribute. And then I
found the passion in storytelling later, so I found the
thing I was really really good at, and then I
found my passion within it. I encourage people to do
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that and worry about being type passed.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Stay in your lane, but you can make it. Why.
Speaker 18 (19:15):
I'm not trying to pigeonhole you, and I'm not trying
to limit what you can do, but stay in your lane.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Too often we are trying to do.
Speaker 18 (19:22):
Too much, and now you can't be the person that's
doing everything the best.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
That is just not how humans work. What's the thing
you do well? Triple down on that.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
So once you've leaned into your thing and you find
that thing, there's never a pivot from that thing.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
It can be a pivot where you use that thing.
Speaker 18 (19:39):
You use your ability, you use your brand, You use
the fact that you have got credibility in a particular space.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
You have done the exact same thing.
Speaker 18 (19:46):
You use the fact that you have credibility in one
lane in order to then expand your lane. Right, But
it should still all be about this is the thing
that I do. That's why I say stay in your lane,
but make your lane.
Speaker 17 (19:58):
Why is there ever a time where like you're because
I mean, I remember when you told the story about
Kevin and with the last time you guys were here. Yeah,
and now I'm seeing in context of this book of
like who better than you? And I feel like in
that moment he had the arrogance to be like, I
can do both of these. I'm going to be fine
and it's all going to work out. But things like
that can kind of get pretty tricky because what if
it hadn't have worked out? Is there ever a moment
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where you have to tell somebody who's coming to you
for this type of who better than you?
Speaker 16 (20:22):
Advice?
Speaker 17 (20:23):
Like, maybe this is not it for you right now,
maybe there's someone better than you right now, but that
doesn't mean later you might not be able to have
that who better than you?
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Eric, you have to be honest with yourself number one.
Speaker 18 (20:33):
Right, We live in a world where people think either
they are too great or they are too awful. Rodger
Kipling has a poem called if, and my favorite stanza
in that poem is if you can meet with triumph
and disaster and treat those two impostors just the same.
That is saying that both triumph and disaster are impostors,
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neither of them are real.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Right.
Speaker 18 (20:59):
Too many times, because we post some on social media,
everybody tell you, oh my god, you're the greatest thing ever,
so good or the opposite.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
They just hate No, you're telling you how oftful you are.
Speaker 18 (21:07):
Neither of that is true. You gotta stay even keelled.
So the first thing you gotta do is be honest
about you and your skill set. It's the only way
you're gonna get better. Don't worry about external factors. You
got to have a very honest conversation. One of the
things I talk about in the book is how we
have to make sure I'm a daily affirmation type of person.
You're there encouraging yourself right, giving yourself positivity, telling yourself
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how you're ready, how you prepared, what you can do,
but also being very very honest with yourself. I don't
care what you tell the world. A lot of yourself,
a lot of your mom, a lot of your cousin,
lot of your boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife. Do not lie
to yourself. Be very very clear about what it is
that you do.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Well, yeah, you know, I want to talk you about
the Packer family model too.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
If you want to have what others, won't you have
to do with others don't?
Speaker 5 (21:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Well, yeah, so you got your.
Speaker 18 (21:53):
Mom with you again her, I got moms, I got
you know what, It's something that mom instilled in me.
You know, when I was growing up, Mom and dad
they took me like you know, like simbing the lion
king and lifting me up and said, you know, whatever
the son touches is your son. Like I encourage my
folks with kids, do that. Tell your kids because that's
when they're the most impressiable. Tell them they can do anything.
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They told me that, and so I was very audacious
growing up with my family. It's me, my wife. We
have four children, So that's the six pack. If you
want to have what others don't, you have to be
willing to do what others won't.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Period.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
That is the mantra.
Speaker 18 (22:27):
The mantra is that understand whatever it is that you
want to do, if anybody else can do it, then
it's not special.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
You're not gonna get it right. You're not gonna get
something that's unique.
Speaker 18 (22:37):
You gotta be willing to do what others are not
to get that thing. And I believe that the more
you do hard things, the better.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
You become at hard things.
Speaker 18 (22:48):
The more hard things you do, the easier hard things become.
So don't run from doing hard things. Don't run from
doing the things that everybody else says it's crazy. That's
the only way you gonna get strength and to build
that muscle. It's by doing those hard things. Why I
say dream big because your dream has got to be
so big, because there's gonna be challenges along the way.
It's gotta be so big that it pushes you past
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those challenges inevitably. Because if the dream is just a
mediocre dream, like man, it'd be kind of cool to
do that. Then when you run into a speed bump
and that's really hard, you're gonna say, you know what,
it ain't worth it.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I'm cool, right, But if the dream is so big, right,
I mean.
Speaker 18 (23:23):
So big for color for h four khd, like super crazy,
beyond your wireless dreams big, then when you do hit
that hard moment, those challenges, you know it's worth it
to keep going and keep fighting because the dream.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Is big enough.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Is Will Packer allowed to turn his own book into
a movie?
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Limited seriously?
Speaker 18 (23:44):
Yeah yeah, I mean it's some Will Packers. You know
what I think about doing it?
Speaker 5 (23:48):
I could do that.
Speaker 16 (23:48):
I saw Heather in the background this day.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
You know what head to say in the background. I
don't know.
Speaker 17 (23:52):
I just saw something I was given a lean like
maybe no, don't do it right now or something.
Speaker 18 (23:58):
You know what, I've made this book not to turn
into a movie or a TV show. You never say never,
because you know one of my biggest movies is Think
Like a Man. Steve Harvey will tell you he never
thought of that as a move never. He never wrote
it for that. I wrote this to give the master
mentorship that I didn't have. I have people coming to
me a lot and saying, tell me about your success story,
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tell me about your failures, tell me about what you
had to overcome. And so when I tell these stories,
right and I talk about you know, Beyonce turning me
down five times, or I Yourselba, you know, almost not
walking the carpet at the first Emmy's and how you
get past that? Like, when I tell these stories, I'm
doing that so that other people can benefit from it.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
So I could turn into a movie. That's not what
I made it for.
Speaker 18 (24:41):
I literally made this book so that I could influence
other folks who are either on their way up, thinking
about making a pivot or living a life that they
know could be a little more fulfilling.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Well, we appreciate you for joining us.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Well pack a new book.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Who better than you to all the healthy arrogance and
dreaming big out right now. Always a pleasure to see
you go out there and buy this book making the.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
New York Times bestseller.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Missisiate you found. I appreciate you, Man, thank you, Thank
you all for having me.
Speaker 18 (25:06):
Charlotte Mann, and thank you because you're somebody that you know.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
And I told you this.
Speaker 18 (25:10):
We saw each other at the Democrat National Convention and
I told you I had written my first book, and
I was inspired by your books and by reading your
books and just seeing that process and the grind that
you put in. So you never know who's watching and
who you're inspiring. So thank you, my brother, thank you
for having me.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
It's Will Packer. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, you're
checking out the Breakfast Club Morning.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Everybody's DJ Envy, Jesse, Larus, Charlamaine the God. We are
the Breakfast Club Lawn La Rosa. It's here and we
got a special guest in the building. David o' yellowwoe
was here.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Did say it?
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Did you did? Okay?
Speaker 3 (25:45):
I had to ask you beforehand.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
You know, I appreciate that you did.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yeah, I see it all the time, but I'm like,
I don't want to hack it when I try to.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Say it now, everyone everyone does, but you mailed that.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
How are you, sir?
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Very good? Very good. It's great to be here.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Absolutely so.
Speaker 17 (25:57):
You got a government cheese happening right now Apple TV?
Yeah so and watching this but also some of the
other things that I've seen you play in. Can you
just first talk about your career and like the roles
that you select, all of the roles that I know
you for are very powerful, very like you tell stories
that are like so important to black people coming out
the gate you are. Is that something you were like, Hey,
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this has to be it for me, this is what
I want to do. Or did you just fall into
these roles because like, how did it happen?
Speaker 5 (26:26):
No, thank you for saying that. It's very intentional. You know.
I was incredibly influenced by film and television growing up,
and I was aware quite early that the images I
was taking in were in some ways informing me of
what blackness means globally speaking. And then I had this
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incredible moment where, having been born and grown up in
the UK, we moved back to Nigeria for six years.
We made you six to thirteen, and I was suddenly
in a country, in an environment where I was not
a minority, everything on offer in that society was mine
for the taking. And I realized that these images that
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I was internalizing that often had Black people on the
periphery or playing what I deemed to be caricatures or stereotypes,
were insidious, were detrimental to us as a people. And so,
having moved back to the UK becoming an actor, I
felt that if I'm not part of the solution, I'm
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part of the problem. And so I've definitely gravitated towards
roles and projects that mean that I am trying to
change what I saw growing up. I'm trying to widen
the aperture and contextualize who and what we are as
black people.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
That's interesting, I wonder, how did you know that you
know they were characters and stereotypes if you've never if
you had mental America to see.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
For yourself, Because I was living in communities where black
people were central to their own lives, and I knew
that what I was saying, because it wasn't just America,
it was in the UK as well. You know, if
if every time you see a black person, they are
on the periphery of the narrative if so often they
are criminalized or marginalized. That was not my experience walking
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through the earth, and so I felt that's intentional, that's political,
that's propaganda in a sense, and it's having a detrimental
effect on me because there is a disconnect between my
lived experience and what I'm internalizing on screen. So that's
how I knew it was something to become batter. You know.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
It's so interesting, right, because I have that conversation often
because you know, when you watch film in television in
the nineties, if everything had some type of socially redeeming value, right,
you know what I mean? And I always wonder what
the hell happened to it? It felt like it was intentional. Yeah,
put him to stop showing us that and start giving
us like the reality television.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Yeah, well, I can tell you exactly what happened. So often,
why you got you had the those films that were
bringing context to who we are as black people is
because it was largely being framed and made by a
black people. What has happened a lot is that our stories,
we craft them, we developed them. But at some point
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you've got to take it to people who have green
light power who are not from our demographic and so
therefore you're having to push who we are through their
perception of who we are, and it almost always gets eroded,
watered down, or marginalized. And that's what's happening for some
reason in the nineties that there were there were producers,
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there were creatives, there were directors who were just doing
it all themselves, and it was getting celebrated and it
was less watered down, and that's why I think we
had that golden era.
Speaker 16 (29:45):
Is it ever heavy for you?
Speaker 17 (29:46):
Because I remember watching you in the story about doctor
Martin Luther King and yeah, in like, I know there's
a lot because you also have done theater. Yeah, you're
very serious about what you do, so I know that
there's a lot of study and deep study and certain
things of that nature. So you're probably doing that for
every single role. And there's a lot of like just
trauma that you take on differently because you get so
close to your characters. How does that stick with you,
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like in that pressure from outside world too, of like
these are characters and people that you know have shaped
our world.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Yeah, I mean I try to stay away from the
trauma component. What I mostly gravitate towards are aspirational representations
of us. So in playing Dr King, the gift for
me was to see a leader, to see someone who
was an icon, but who was a human being as well.
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And I'm interested in stories where we get to be triumphant,
where we get to be someone you would aspire to be,
no matter what demographic of person you are. More often
than not, when you see black people in a historical context,
we are browbeaten, we're broken down, and often we don't
We're not allowed to ascend. You won't catch me in
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that narrative. For me personally, we have got to for
me be on an upward trajectory in whatever we do,
so it's less traumatic, it's more celebratory of who we
are without shying away from the challenges we face.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Yeah, they never want to show you the slave revolting.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Right right, exactly exactly. And for me, you know, that's
why I resist slave narratives because it's very hard to
find the triumphant in that. The closest I came to
that was playing bass Reefs. In that this show Lowman
bass Reefs, he starts enslaved. But the great thing about
being a producer is that you can ensure or be
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a voice in where the narrative goes. I would not
have taken that on if he didn't go from enslavement
to empowerment. Staying in enslavement is not something that I
want to project to our people, because there are people
who enjoy that narrative as a means of keeping us down.
Speaker 17 (31:54):
You said something interesting, you said it being a producer
you get to kind of like, you know, help to
figure out where the character development goes and stuff like that.
What part of your career did that become an option
for you, because not all actors have the ability to
be on a set and say, hey, I think that
we should change this or in power differently because of
how my people will see this. When did that happen
first in your career?
Speaker 5 (32:13):
It happened by accident. It was on Selma. I got
the script just as an actor in two thousand and seven,
felt a real calling to play that role. But I
auditioned for it and the first director said, David o'yelowo
is not Doctor King. That was literally the feedback, And
it took another seven years before the film came to fruition.
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But What I could never had anticipated was that I
would go from being an actor who was rejected initially
to three directors later because they just kept on not
wanting to make that movie because black doesn't travel, the
audience is not going to gravitate towards it. Whatever the
excuses are they say that, well they did, Oh yeah,
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I mean yeah, you think this is a film about
King Ala Perry.
Speaker 16 (33:01):
Because they said that.
Speaker 17 (33:02):
They told Tyler Perry black people would in lead the
theater to go to the movies.
Speaker 16 (33:05):
They don't travel beyond.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
So he met global you meant every global box office
right globally, but here as well. That the narrative was
black people don't want to see black struggle, White people
don't want to feel white guilt and things like that.
But you know, it wasn't until twenty ten. Lee Daniels
actually came along and was the one who actually cast
me in it. Still couldn't get the film made. In
the meantime, I did a small film with Ava Duvene
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called Middle of Nowhere, small two hundred thousand dollars movie,
and I felt she is a genius. Lee had moved
on from the project because they wouldn't give him enough
money to make it, and I went in and fought
very hard for Ava to be the one to direct it.
She rewrote the script. It was brilliant rewrite of the script.
Still couldn't get it made. I'd done the Butler with
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Oprah at that time. I invited Oprah on to be
a producer on the film. Twelve Years a Slave came
out and had done well, which had broken down this
notion of our stories not traveling. And so the aggregation
of all of those things is what went on to
mean Selma got made well. I didn't realize I was
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doing by bringing on Ava, bringing on Oprah, fighting daily
to try and get the thing made, was producing and
so I thought, oh, okay, well I can do that
again for the things that I believe in and I'm
passionate about. And so you know, that was ten eleven
years ago now and I haven't still upset Hi.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
We have more with David o' yellowoe when we come back.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning morning everybody. It's theej
Envy Jesse, hilarious, Charlamagne de God. We are the Breakfast Club.
Laur La Ross here as well. We're still kicking it
with David o' yellowol, Lauren.
Speaker 16 (34:40):
I want to talk about government Cheese.
Speaker 17 (34:42):
So the name itself of the series, let's talk about
that first, because it's referring to the government Cheese program,
which is a kind of like an overarching conversation that
you guys have throughout the series without really.
Speaker 16 (34:53):
Having it all the way.
Speaker 17 (34:54):
Yeah, So talk about the you know, just the choice
of title with that, and you know what, you hope
the hope is that people get just from looking at
the title before they even see it.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
Yeah, I mean, government cheese for us was symbolic of
what we tend to do as black people. You know,
necessity being the mother of invention. We will take nothing
and make it into something. And government cheese, as people
may know, as government subsidized food. There was powdered eggs,
there was powdered milk as well, and with government cheese
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in particular. You talk to people even now they have this,
you know, they go into this place in their heads
when they think about those grilled cheese, sandwichees or the
mac and cheese, and they talk about it incredibly fondly
because it was, you know, a not particularly nutritious food
that people made into a delicacy. And what you have
with the Chambers family is that they are this black
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family in the valley in the sixties, making something out
of nothing. This guy starts the show incarcerated, has this
epiphany about making a self sharpening drill. It's going to
be the means by which his family comes out of
the challenging situations they're in. So it's aspirational. You have
the character that similar Mysic plays. He's a receptionist, but
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she wants to be an interior designer. You have our
son who's aspiring to be a pole vaulter. You have
this other son of ours who you know is completely
obsessed with Native American culture. Everyone is looking beyond where
they are from an aspirational point of view, and in
many ways, government cheese is sort of symbolic that.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
What's the equivalent of government cheese in the UK? I
don't as a British Man, did you understand what that was?
Speaker 5 (36:30):
Yes, I mean we don't have exactly the same thing,
but I remember, you know, you got bottles of milk
that everyone got, you know, that would get dropped at
your house every every morning, and that was something that
was across the nation. Super rich people were not getting
that necessarily, but it was you know, lower income family.
So that's the closest that we got in terms of
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that situation. But the thing I know from living in
the UK, living in Nigeria and Africa, living here is
that we're wherever you go. The resilience of black people
in terms of you know, making something out of nothing
is just something that feels pretty universal.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
You've had other roles that have highlighted black life from
the sixties. What about government Cheese felt different from other projects.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
This is the amount of joy on display and just
the relatability. I think. You know, our experience is very specific,
especially in the sixties as it pertains to civil rights
and black struggle. But you know, with this family, they
are dealing not only with economic challenges but marital challenges,
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and they are raising kids and you know, just just
trying to make ends meet, and I think all of
those things are what make it fresh and familiar. At
the same time, you know, you've seen black people in
the sixties, but never quite like this, never quite in
this place, and never this family. You know, they're kind
of out there. But you know, I have a kids myself,
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and you know, it's weird. It's not until you go
to a restaurant and you see people looking you funny
and you realize how weird and quirking your own family
is because you're just being super loud and people are
king into your conversation. So I think we're probably all
a bit more quirky and with than we can to admit.
Speaker 17 (38:17):
Well, this series is definitely a lot more like light
and fun and you know, even though it takes on
like some serious undertones. But I was reading this article
that you did with a mental magazine. Yeah, and you
were talking about going out into Wyoming on a ranch
with your kids.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 17 (38:30):
When I saw the article, I was like, this is
like a random interview for him to have right now.
And then I was reading and I was like, I
get it because you put yourself in a light of
like a person who has had to learn again to
just like relax and just be fun and just be
a person. Because you know, you're studying your acting, you're working.
Then there's clauses where you can't go out and do
stuff like that, which makes a lot of sense. Yeah,
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but those moments with your kids where you're just they're
seeing you as like a human or it's like Dad
is fun, Dad can do these things. How does that
reignite you when you get back on these sets, you know,
and you take on these characters like the one in
a government cheese.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
I'm so glad you brought that up, because you know,
everything I'm saying is hard work. You know, when I
make a show, probably in the past, to an unhealthy degree,
I feel like it's a political act. I feel like
it's not just about me going to work and taking
on a story, bringing my people with me. And you
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could argue that there are elements of that that are unhealthy.
And so to smell the roses while you're on the journey,
to continue to intentionally enjoy your family, enjoy your marriage,
enjoy your home has been something that I've tried to
afford myself more and more as I've got deeper into
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my career, especially as there are now more wins on
the board. You know, there are really significant things I've
done that are absolutely in line with what I set
out to do, and the temptation is to just be, Okay,
what's next, what's next, what's next? And you know, I
have four kids, three boys and a girl. I have
a wife, I deeply love, and you know that is
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just as important. And a life well lived is not
really about what you did. It's how you made people
feel and the things that well, there you go, and
you're right, And I want the people closest to me
to feel like I was present, to feel like I
didn't just say I loved them, but my actions demonstrated
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that as well. And I think that's time. That's just
constantly demonstrating to the people you love that you value
being in their presence. And so that is that. That's
I'm working on it. I'm not going to tell you that,
you know, I'm all the way there, but that's definitely
an intention I'm trying to bring more into my life.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Is that what you meant when you said in the
article that you came back a different dad?
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (40:50):
I came back a different Wow. You guys really do
your research. You really read that audience.
Speaker 17 (40:59):
Whoever was that pitch that that was so smart because
in looking at you up everything Okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
I didn't even know she pitched it.
Speaker 16 (41:05):
Yeah, well you don't just end up in mental magazine.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Oh I thought.
Speaker 17 (41:11):
I would have ran it up too, But you know,
when I saw that, I was like it was so genius,
because I think your reputation as an actor is so
like it. It's very like stern and you know, silent
and serious. And then I said this article about you
doing all this stuff with my oomen with your kids,
I'm like, wait, hold on, what you'd be having fun?
Speaker 3 (41:30):
So it made me That's what I guess.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Yeah, when you said you came back a different dad,
I guess you just realized, like, I can't just be
so much into my work.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
I still got to be Pops.
Speaker 5 (41:40):
But but also, you know, I was a really rambunctious kid.
I would throw myself all over the place. I was
one of three boys. And then I had my own
kids and I got super like wrapping them in cotton wool,
like careful, careful, don't do that, you know. And then
we went on this trip well horse riding and the
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ATVing and where you're shooting arrows and bike riding, and
I just really just let myself go, probably a bit
too much because I went flying over the handlebars of
the ATV at one point. But you know, I do
that when I'm playing a role because it's like throw
yourself into the role, do whatever the role requires. But
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for my kids to see me having fun in that
way was an eye opener for them. And I came
back differently because I was like, you know what, I
am almost playing a role for my kids in order
for them to be safe, but they also need to
see dad letting loose and having fun, because then they'll
hopefully take the right kind of risks, not just you know,
(42:43):
careless risks. And it was a shift in the dynamic,
and it was something I actually didn't want to go on,
particularly my wife won it in a raffle, this trip
to this dude ranch and then sent us all out,
and you know, I'm so grateful that we did it,
and we've done so many more things like that since
then because it was hugely beneficial for our family.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
We have more with David o' yellowoe when we come back.
It's the breakfast Club.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
Come morning morning. Everybody is thej Envy, Jess Hilarrys, Charlamagne
the guy. We are the breakfast Club. Laurla Roles is
here as well. We're still kicking it with David o'
yellow old Charlomagne.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Did you have any reservations about playing MLK because you
are a British actor and you know, there's always that thing,
oh why are all the British actors playing the roles
of American icons?
Speaker 5 (43:24):
No, because of the way it came in. You know,
when I read the script in two thousand and seven,
I had never been thinking of myself as doctor King,
you know, but I'm a Christian. I was in a
time of praying and fasting and I felt, God, tell
me you are going to play this role. And then
the way it came about eventually, which is that, you know,
(43:45):
I can safely say pretty much no one worked as
hard to get that film made as I did, and
I would probably say no one else was quite as
influential in getting that film made, between bringing on Ava,
between bringing on Oprah, between all the the work done
behind the scenes to try and get the film made.
So for me, I just found it unacceptable that the
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only American who had a holiday named after him in
the twentieth century, who happens to be a black man,
had not had a film made about him. Yet I
wasn't feeling like I have to be the one to
make it. But this was already fifty years after his assassination.
Why do we not have the movie? And I'm a
big believer in. If not me, then who, And so
(44:29):
I was never really thinking I'm British, it should be
someone else. And the reality is that when Lee Daniels
was casting for it, he met everyone I met. I
saw the list of some of the people he met.
I was like, Oh my lord, I cannot believe I'm
going up against my heroes. Who even dare think I'm
going to be the one to play this. But I
eventually got the role, and so for me it's a
(44:53):
question of Okay, now I've been given the opportunity, It's
less about whether or not I should play it. It's
more about how well do it. That is going to be,
at the end of the day, the thing that I
want people to judge. And so I never really thought
about it in that way, because at the end of
the day, I have no interest in playing myself on Spain.
I'm always going to be gravitating towards the most extreme
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challenge in terms of playing someone who's not necessarily me.
Speaker 17 (45:17):
Do you ever could you have your production companies Eoroba
Saxony ORBA Saxon. So I know that you and your
wife co run that production company, and I'm sure a
lot of the stories that you guys tell are very
close to the heart as far as like black stories,
just by your passion here, do you get backlash at
all because you're not married to a black woman doing that?
Speaker 16 (45:34):
And how do you deal with that?
Speaker 5 (45:35):
Ifsol not to my face, there are plenty of people
who feel some kind of way about that. But we
called it Yuba Saxon because you know, I'm from the
Yuroba tribe in Nigeria. She's Anglo Saxon, And so you know,
our company is a demonstration of the fact that we
are more alike than we are different as human beings
(45:57):
generally speaking. You know, in making government che yes, it's
a black family. But my hope and my bet is
that everyone is gonna see their family in that family
because of the relatable themes and components that we've woven
into it. And so you know, I'm incredibly proud of
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my family. I fell in love with my wife when Gusha.
We met when we were teenagers. We got married when
she was twenty i was twenty two, and everything we
had we built together. So you know, for me, sometimes
the accusation, you know, in marrying a white woman is
you know, they'd say things like there's self loathing in there,
or what's the other one, or that she's a trophy
(46:39):
or something like that. We were so poor when we
started out, they couldn't be less trophy or if it tried.
But you know, I am an incredibly proud black man,
African Christian husband, father. There are so many things that
I am on top of my democrat thinking, who I'm
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married to, and those are all reflected in the in
the work that iron we do.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
You and your wife should be thinking about producing a
biopic on a great man named doctor Umar Johnson. He's
an activist here an America scholar. Wow yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
to think about that, just look.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
At it, look look into it, Listen to listen.
Speaker 5 (47:20):
I'm going to keep he's about in trouble. Was that
about to become a mean? Just then about a mean?
Speaker 16 (47:30):
There's a whole change.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Trust me, they'll love you for that withever role that
you will pitch that you morally said to yourself, I
can't do this.
Speaker 5 (47:39):
Well, what tends to happen is the minute you play
a civil rights leader, you get every civil rights leader
who's ever lived. Uh, which so I definitely I definitely
said though to those the minute you play a groundbreaking character.
There's a whole genre called the first black man who.
You know, I get a lot of first black man who,
which I'm not.
Speaker 16 (48:01):
What's the craziest thing you was, like you, I didn't
even know a black man, didn't it.
Speaker 5 (48:04):
I want to say that there have been like windscreen wipers,
the guy who invented the paper clip, the guy who
like like it's it's it's ridiculous. It gets as ridiculous
as that, and people will come to you like full
of passion. The other one you want to really avoid
is when someone goes, man, I got this script.
Speaker 11 (48:22):
It's by my dad, and he he the first person
who had a car wash in Alabama and all that
kind of stuff, and I just like, I don't know
how to tell you that.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
That is not a movie.
Speaker 5 (48:37):
I'm just I'm just so sorry, but that's not going
to be my next But I got your next project,
go in and Out.
Speaker 16 (48:43):
It is crazy.
Speaker 5 (48:45):
Because it happens a lot of a lot to me.
So so yeah, those are the ones to avoid as well.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
Absolutely.
Speaker 17 (48:52):
Oh you mentioned so casually multiple times, Oprah, just.
Speaker 16 (48:57):
Just very casually.
Speaker 17 (48:59):
I read it the story about when you invited her
to Odello opening night, and she had to sit on
the hard benches and she never let you leave that down.
Speaker 5 (49:06):
She just never stopped talking about child those benches. But
she came to Coriolanus, which I just did in London,
and they had cushionsy, yes, so you know we are
beyond the bad benches now, but yeah, and they were
very tough benches towards three hours of Shakespeare. So she
(49:27):
fair point. But I'm glad that we've broken the deadlock.
Speaker 17 (49:29):
She show up a lot for you, though it sounds
like just in what I'm hearing you say, like what's
that relationship, and like, because you know, opraint coming out
the house for everybody, she is not.
Speaker 5 (49:38):
She's not. Yeah, you know, we met doing The Butler together,
and I remember being stood at a party at Lee
Daniel's house that he was renting in New Orleans when
we were shooting that film, and it was at a
time when I just felt I felt very isolated. I
felt very alone. I'd moved here with my family, if
I'm totally honest, I felt like there were other actors
(50:00):
who saw me as a threat in a way that
confused me, because I was like, I'm just you know,
i'd come out of theater in the UK. It's an
environment where it's all about, you know, about the work
and working together and people who were like, you know
that coming here to take our jobs thing was a
real thing I was feeling. And I just remember still
(50:22):
being stood in a corner at this party and Oprah
came up to me and said, you're okay. I said,
you know what, you know, I'm really glad to have
gotten this movie. But it's just I don't know if
you've ever felt this, just like your own community is
is resisting you, which is what I'm feeling.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
She's the first, whatever you said earlier, the first ever.
Speaker 5 (50:44):
I know, and so exactly your reaction there was her reaction.
She was like baby. And she talked about how Sidney
Poitier was the one who took her under his wing
and said, no, you're not crazy. This is a real thing.
It's something that is unfortunately part of ascending in our community.
(51:06):
And he mentored her and she literally said to me,
I am going to do for you what he did
for me. And she has never abated on that. You know,
Summer doesn't happen without her, My directorial debut doesn't acting
happen without her. So much of the advice, so much
of the financial literacy I have came from her because
(51:27):
I didn't come from means. My parents were not particularly
good business people, even though they had a business. And
so yeah, she has really really made good on that
promise and it's been absolutely life changing.
Speaker 16 (51:39):
People definitely hate you now, you know, no, just pop outside.
Speaker 5 (51:46):
I know, I know, I know. I made a rod
from my back. Pause.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
David, thank you for joining us, brother, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
Government Cheese is on Apple TV right now and it
was a pleasure talking to you, man.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
And I'll be a strange it's David a Yellow World.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
Yes, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Speaker 12 (52:00):
He gave me dounky other day and I deserve that.
Speaker 3 (52:02):
You need to know.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
You need to tell them. I am you have the boy.
Speaker 16 (52:06):
Tell them.
Speaker 3 (52:08):
It's time for Donkey Day.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
It's a read. But you're so good at Charlamage.
Speaker 10 (52:14):
He wants charlamage to.
Speaker 15 (52:17):
My mom.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Now, Salomame who he's a Dusky of the Day two
now well, sexy rad Donkey of to Day go goes
to Ashley Cross. Ashley is a thirty seven year old
African American woman from Memphis, Tennessee. Okay, salute everyone who
listens to us on K ninety seven in Memphis.
Speaker 3 (52:32):
Now, I'm sure that you all are aware by now.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
There's a lot of companies that rolled back their diversity
equity and including initiatives. One of those companies is Walmart. Now,
if you read my first book, Black Privilege, and you
know that joy Walmart brought me as a child, because
when you grow up in the country, like I did,
salute the monks corner South Carolina, drop on the clues,
bumps form most corner South Carolina. When you grow up
in the country or rural area, the twenty five hour
Walmart is everything. Okay, that's what we would go late
(52:56):
at night because there was nothing else to do. Yes,
the good old days, walking the holy grounds of Walmart.
This was way back in the day when the only
thing they were rolling back is prices. But a lot
of people have called for a boycott at these companies,
in particular Target, but Ashley Cross has decided that she
is staging a one woman boycott of Walmart. Yes, in fact,
Ashley is not going to be shopping at Walmart in period.
(53:21):
No Walmart in the country, none of them ever Again, Okay,
do you have that kind of commitment to your boycott?
Can you vow to never shopping an establishment ever again?
Are a scott paper tower being ten sixty eight for
twelve rolls too great a deal to pass up?
Speaker 3 (53:35):
Well?
Speaker 1 (53:35):
If it is, then you can always do what Ashley
did because it's guaranteed Ashley will never step foot in
any Walmart ever again. And I lie, it's not because
she's boycotting Walmart. It's actually because Walmart is boycotting her.
What do you mean, uncle, Charla, Walmart is boycotting her? Well,
let's go to news Channel three for the report.
Speaker 13 (53:52):
Police Ashley Cross, charged with criminal trespass and theft of
merchandise is, according to the police report, a well known
shoplifter at this Walmart on Elvis Presley Boulevard in Whitehaven,
so well known to Walmart that Cross is on an
Authorization of Agency list, meaning she's banned from any Walmart
(54:12):
location in the United States. The Elvis Presley Boulevard stores
where Cross and another suspect were arrested February tenth, Cross
was seen unisying and devised to scan her items for
one dollar at a self checkout machine.
Speaker 19 (54:27):
Ashley Cross remains in jail on a seventy five hundred
dollars bond. She is due back in court February nineteenth.
The suspect with cross received a misdemeanor citation for theft
of property.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
Oh, she already with the court. I wonder what happened. Listen.
Speaker 1 (54:41):
I used to shoplift up until twenty sixteen. Okay, that's
when I stopped shoplifting. But I didn't, you know, feel
like I was stealing.
Speaker 2 (54:48):
Because nine years ago, you had a little money.
Speaker 16 (54:51):
Nine years ago, are you still stealing?
Speaker 1 (54:53):
I don't know, But I didn't feel like you was
stealing because I didn't try to hide anything. I would
walk in and, you know, take what I want and
just walk out. I only get caught when you look suspicious,
you know. Plus I never really stole anything but magazines,
you know, when I was young, like Black and Miles,
twelve packs of butt light, random stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (55:09):
But Ashley is clearly a kleptomaniac.
Speaker 1 (55:11):
And she's good because she was using a bar code
from an old watch battery to scan all her items
for just one dollar to self checkout. I stand a
creative thief. Okay, y'all still stealing? Like flintstones. Actually out
here like a jetson with it. Maybe this is the
normal way to shoplift. Now, I don't steal anymore, so
I wouldn't know. But Ashley stole eleven packs of Ramen noodles,
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women's boots, a pair of jeans, and a T shirt,
all totaling one hundred and thirty seven dollars and thirty
four cents. Now, this woman was clearly stealing essentials. Okay,
these are reasonable things to steal. Ramen noodles, boots, clothes.
I understand. In America, I'm gonna tell you something you
don't want to hear. There's gonna be a lot more
of this. Why because during America's inflation crisis, Walmart was
(55:56):
the spot.
Speaker 3 (55:57):
Okay, you can.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
Get good deals all types of essentials. And yesterday Walmart
said things are about to get slow because consumers are
growing increasingly frustrated with inflation, and they're concerned about President
Trump's tasks. Basically, folks being broke. And if people keep
losing their jobs, they will be broken. And if you
are the reason okay people are losing their jobs, like
Elon Musk and Donald Trump are. In regards the federal workers,
(56:18):
and you're putting tariffs on items. Not only do I
not have a job, things are going to be even
more expensive. So what am I going to resort to doing?
I tell you what people will resort to doing. Trying
to survive, and trying to survive can look like a
number of things, and sometimes one of those things is shoplifted.
I'm not making excuses for Ashley. I'm just telling America
(56:39):
what the inevitable is when you don't take care of
the least of us. Nevertheless, Ashley crosses on Walmart's authorization
of agency lists, which prohibits her from entering any Walmart
store across the country. I didn't know such a list existed,
but Ashley is on it, and she is currently well,
not even know if currently, but she was being held
on the seventy five hundred dollar bond, probably still in it.
(57:02):
She's probably still look in it because if he had
one hundred and thirty four dollars to get these items
for Walmart, you damn sure ain't got the seventy five
hundred dollars bond all the ten percent of seven hundred
and fifty dollars to get out. But some donkey of
the days just sell themselves. Please give Ashley Cross the
Sweet Sounds and the Hamiltons.
Speaker 15 (57:20):
You oh the day, ye oh the day.
Speaker 1 (57:35):
Ye I know, it's just you feel bad for now.
You don't feel bad for her. She's a repeat offender.
Speaker 17 (57:44):
She could have got a job, or maybe the first
offense put something on her record and she couldn't.
Speaker 16 (57:50):
Get the job.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
That is true too, But she stole from there a lot.
Why wouldn't you switch it up?
Speaker 17 (57:56):
All right, it's gonna sound bad, but no, you ever,
you ever be in so check out and be feeling
like this.
Speaker 16 (58:07):
I shouldn't have to pay for this stuff, Like some
of this stuff is old to me.
Speaker 2 (58:09):
Like maybe she felt like that.
Speaker 1 (58:11):
No, I don't feel like that. And that's what happens
when you still wiggle. When you still wiggle, you know
what I'm saying, You.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
Get good?
Speaker 3 (58:20):
What what?
Speaker 12 (58:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 17 (58:25):
You so lucky you were still in when your face
was two different colors because they wouldn't have recognized you
from me to side.
Speaker 1 (58:29):
That is true. That is very true. If you if
I'm on camera in twenty sixteen, that's not me. Okay,
that's not me. It's not the same person the breakfast club.
Speaker 2 (58:42):
That's about me. For relationship problems. That's about me.
Speaker 12 (58:46):
If you need to beat your coworker's ass about me,
your coworker needs to beat your ass, call it up.
They got the jests, and I'm here to fix your mess.
Speaker 2 (58:54):
Fix your mess.
Speaker 12 (58:55):
It's getting very much messy.
Speaker 3 (58:56):
Let me fix that morning.
Speaker 4 (58:58):
Everybody your stiege envy Jess, hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.
Speaker 2 (59:02):
We are to breakfast club. It's time for just fixed
my mess. Hello. Who's this?
Speaker 14 (59:06):
Anonymous?
Speaker 2 (59:07):
Okay, anonymous, what's your question for? Jess?
Speaker 14 (59:10):
Long story short? I cheated on my fiance and I've
found a GPS tracker in my car recently, and I
don't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (59:18):
Stop cheating.
Speaker 12 (59:19):
That's what you got to stop doing, because that's why
you How long you've been cheating? He's obviously been on
to you for a while.
Speaker 3 (59:25):
How long?
Speaker 14 (59:26):
Yeah, he found out. I told him.
Speaker 8 (59:28):
I came cleanton.
Speaker 14 (59:29):
But we're trying to work on things.
Speaker 12 (59:31):
Trying to work on things. So you recently found the
tracker after admitting that you were a cheater?
Speaker 5 (59:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (59:36):
Correct?
Speaker 12 (59:37):
Okay, So that tells me that he does not believe you.
You know, he still does not trust that you are
done cheating?
Speaker 2 (59:45):
Are you done?
Speaker 12 (59:45):
With cheating, no right, and you are question why you
have a goddamn GPS tracker in your car and you're
not done cheating?
Speaker 2 (59:54):
So why did you don't.
Speaker 10 (59:55):
Know what to do with the relationship?
Speaker 2 (59:56):
Oh you wanted to?
Speaker 12 (59:57):
Oh okay, baby, you gotta get up by if you
want to live your life. And you you know, you
you still feel like you got some some other things
that you're you know, you don't want to cheat on
the person, do you?
Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
You know what I mean? I don't know. Just leave him.
Speaker 12 (01:00:15):
Because you're obviously you're not happy. You're cheating for a reason,
and he's not happy either.
Speaker 8 (01:00:20):
Though I do.
Speaker 12 (01:00:21):
And that's how it works. You always love the person
that you cheat on, you know what I mean? You
love them, but it's something that he's lacking that you
can't get there right, something that he's doing that he's
not doing that you really really wish that he would do.
And although you don't want to leave him, you still
find you know, you're still looking for something else and
(01:00:42):
you're finding it out in the streets. And that's still
are you married or this is your boyfriend.
Speaker 14 (01:00:46):
We're engaged and we bought a house the other eight
years ago.
Speaker 12 (01:00:49):
So you ain't making it down at our girl. I
know you love him, but damn you ain't even married
and you're doing you cheating. I think you should just
I think you should just revoke that whole engagement. Go
and live your life.
Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
You forty six?
Speaker 5 (01:01:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (01:01:08):
Wrong, Okay, okay, she need to be Neo's fifth girlfriendes
It is sounded like she needs she you you into
the polye situation. I think that's what you need. You
need somebody who's going to be comfortable with you doing
these things. I know he already bought the ring, I understand,
but would this be better that he found out after
(01:01:30):
you married him or right now? I think it makes
more sense that he found out now. And I think
that you just need to look in the marriage. Just
be honest with yourself. Marriage is not for you, especially
not a committed marriage. It's not for you right now.
I'm not saying forever, but that ain't something that that's
for you right now, because you know you got to
give him the choice. You know what I mean? Right now,
(01:01:51):
you're not really giving him a choice. You know you
want to lead them on and he marry you and
you know you're still gonna cheat. I love your honesty.
You're like, no, I ain't shooting yet, but you can't
walk down.
Speaker 10 (01:02:03):
You know, I love you, reason like I'm not trying to.
Speaker 14 (01:02:06):
I mean, excuse me. Yeah, I want real advice. So
just like I have to tell my therapist everything, Yeah,
you can't help me if I lie or if I withhold.
Speaker 12 (01:02:18):
Yeah, and that's that's that shut. Apart from everybody else.
People be calling up here, lying to me, leaving out
parts of the story. I applaud your honesty, but you
you cannot get married, and you have to tell him
that you're not ready for marriage.
Speaker 14 (01:02:31):
But I'm the one that wants to get married and
he doesn't. I mean he he's the one that's holding back.
I mean, obviously he gave me a ring, which indicates
he would want to marry me, but he could also
just be leading me on leaden together ten years.
Speaker 12 (01:02:46):
Yep, you can't get married. The advice is still the same.
I know you want to get married, but you're not ready.
I'm telling you this ain't about him no more, it's
about you. You're not ready to get married. You're not
because you're not finished playing the field, you know what
I mean. And that's totally fine. But you gotta do
that single. You know he already got trust issues. You
found a GPS tracker. That is scary. It's scary as hell.
(01:03:08):
But what's also but what's also scary as being engaged
to somebody that keeps cheating. It's it's crazy, and it's
scary knowing that I have to track my woman because
I'm afraid that she ain't gonna never stop cheating. I
know she's doing something and we ain't even make it
down the aisle yet. So yes, while marriage is something
that you want, that's a little further down.
Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
The line for you both.
Speaker 12 (01:03:31):
Thank you, You welcome, babes.
Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Go love mama, Just fix my madam saying and you
want an amble road to stop the sluatwalk, Okay.
Speaker 16 (01:03:39):
You want her to stop.
Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
She wanted to stop.
Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
Because to her, lady needs something to do.
Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
I didn't wanted to stop.
Speaker 12 (01:03:48):
I just felt like it was complete contradictory why she stopped?
Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
Eight hundred five eight five five on just fix My
messes the Breakfast Club, God, Morning Wanning, everybody, It's DJ
n V, Jess, Larry Charlamagne, the God all the Breakfast Club,
Just fix my mess We have shared on a lot right, Cherry, Oh, Sherry,
I'm sorry, take us off bluetooth for.
Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Speaker, Cherry Chevyry Erry, what's question that?
Speaker 10 (01:04:17):
Brooklyn's tune?
Speaker 6 (01:04:18):
Look and beyond a playing time, it's gonna what's good
your morning?
Speaker 12 (01:04:21):
I don't want to class shot a Clyde definitely.
Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
It's five o'clock somewhere. You'll all right, Jack, So I
want you to fix my message?
Speaker 16 (01:04:34):
What's that?
Speaker 5 (01:04:34):
Baby? What you got? All right?
Speaker 7 (01:04:36):
I got this X right now.
Speaker 6 (01:04:37):
We went together for like two years, and then we
were still together physically for two years after we had
broke up. But in those two years we broke up,
he was with another person.
Speaker 10 (01:04:46):
Living with her, engaged to her. I don't care about that.
Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
I trained that meet myself, you feel me, So it
was kind of hard for me to leave that alone
all it.
Speaker 6 (01:04:55):
So whatever we broke up for, you know, trying to
train somebody else from scratches kind of but I attempted.
Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
And when our attempted, they was just terrible, back to back.
Speaker 10 (01:05:04):
And I'm like, I'm not catching all these frogs till
I get a prince.
Speaker 6 (01:05:07):
You feel me like some of them is just told
And so I just want to know what I should
do girl, cause you know that that meets forever man?
Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Or should I let this girl have her fiance.
Speaker 10 (01:05:17):
Like they gonna be married and all that.
Speaker 12 (01:05:20):
I know, I know, but this is the thing because
I think I want to tell you to go ahead
and pursue him, because that should actually train that meet
and all of that.
Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
I get that.
Speaker 12 (01:05:28):
But if he's about to walk down the aisle with
another shorty and he just you know, at this point,
he's just using you for the convenience, he is.
Speaker 6 (01:05:36):
Not using when I'm the one initiating, I hit him up, like,
I know y'all got whatever y'all got going on, but
you're busy today because I need something real quick, you
feel me.
Speaker 10 (01:05:44):
But I'm gonna know, like, well, I don't.
Speaker 12 (01:05:46):
Think you got anything to even worry about because one
shorty get a you know, get away this. She ain't
walking down the aisle, so you're gonna have him, believe
it or not.
Speaker 10 (01:05:55):
You know that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
I don't never want him back.
Speaker 6 (01:05:58):
I want that, And that's why I let him have
this fiance, because you know, let that girl deal with
the headache.
Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
I just feel me.
Speaker 10 (01:06:04):
I just want to know should I keep doing that?
Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Should I be abstine, like, what should I do?
Speaker 13 (01:06:08):
Dad?
Speaker 5 (01:06:08):
No, I don't.
Speaker 12 (01:06:09):
Yes, it's so much meat out here.
Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
I think.
Speaker 12 (01:06:13):
You know, you train one dog, you can train another
one is.
Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Yes, it is, and when I tried it it was horrible. Yeah,
let her have that.
Speaker 12 (01:06:22):
Uh, that's her headache now. And I think, like I said,
you you're done. All you want is to meet.
Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
That's fine.
Speaker 12 (01:06:29):
Some things just run its course. You need to leave
him alone, let him be married, let.
Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Him figure it out.
Speaker 12 (01:06:33):
That ain't for him because obviously if he's still willingly
cheating on his fiance, he ain't he walked on out yet,
then that's that's something that he gonna keep doing. You
ain't even got to be a casualty of that. I
know you initiating and all that, But would you want
your man, your your fiance to do the same thing
to you?
Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
I don't exactly.
Speaker 12 (01:06:51):
And what's going to come a time where somebody's gonna
put a ring on your finger, miss ma'am, because if
you training meet and all that.
Speaker 8 (01:06:56):
Yes, I believe God again, jets, I think he can't
hear you.
Speaker 4 (01:07:00):
So I want you to lead at along just where
you think she's from, I say, Brooklyn, She definitely from
New York.
Speaker 12 (01:07:05):
I don't even know that the barrels or whatever, but
she definitely from New York.
Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
I smelled Brooklyn, but I'm sorry I smelled Brooklyn, but
I think this is the Bronx. Yeah, yeah, smell Brooklyn.
Speaker 12 (01:07:22):
They gotta smell good luck and training that D the
meat what you call it, that's right, says.
Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
You got to stop repeating things just because you hear people.
Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Saying I just like it sound. I said, you got
said good luck with trading the D. She ain't never
say she trained the di. She said, I trained that meat.
Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
But you ain't hear you in the background that.
Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
I did not say that. You did you want to
be with the girl? I saved you. Goodbye, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
Sherry Druggish, Oh my gosh, all right, just the Breakfast
Local Morning, the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Mourning.
Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
Everybody is dj NV just hilarious, Charlamagne the God. We
are the Breakfast Club. Now if you're just joining us
during get it off your chest. A gentleman called in
and said he was having a problem with his relationship
and this was bothering him.
Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
So let's listen.
Speaker 8 (01:08:17):
First thing, I just want to get this on a
check I can't say that to my girl, so I'm gonna.
Speaker 10 (01:08:21):
Just say it to y'all.
Speaker 8 (01:08:22):
I hate my girl. Dogs, Okay, I don't know how
okay to ah the dog people out there.
Speaker 12 (01:08:28):
I don't know how y'all deal with.
Speaker 8 (01:08:30):
Dogs running all around y'all house and doget everywhere. But
just about to make me say, hey, I can't do
it no more. I had a dream about the dolls
last night.
Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
Did you and your wife have a conversation? Did you
tell her how you feel?
Speaker 10 (01:08:45):
Yeah, we had one a.
Speaker 8 (01:08:46):
Few months ago, and that now do a bigger argument.
Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
So I ain't trying to go there no more.
Speaker 4 (01:08:51):
So we're asking eight hundred five eight five one five one,
what's your relationship?
Speaker 5 (01:08:55):
Pet? Peeve?
Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Let's start with you, Jess.
Speaker 12 (01:08:58):
All right, when you don't have no fault in your
mother's wall, see you involved in your business, because then
it leaks over into our business. When you want to
take you on a date, but ask you where you
want to go, excuse me, if you want to take
me on a date, plan the date.
Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
I don't like a nigga.
Speaker 12 (01:09:14):
That'd be like like, plan the date, learn me you
know what I like? If you don't like the East
steak We are you gonna take me? Not out big,
but where are you gonna take me? You know what
I'm saying, I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
Well, he can't.
Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
Like couples.
Speaker 4 (01:09:37):
Talk about your man can fix some other problem, like
they can't if they take with their mom, they can't
fix that.
Speaker 13 (01:09:42):
No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
And sometimes if I take you to a restaurant, then
you'll be like, why we go to this restaurant? Why
do we not go to restaurant? So what are you
feeling for today? Baby?
Speaker 5 (01:09:51):
No?
Speaker 12 (01:09:51):
No, no, no, it's a date. It's all in the place.
Take the initiative to be like, you know what, I'm
gonna take her here?
Speaker 5 (01:09:57):
You know.
Speaker 12 (01:09:57):
And the reason why I say, you know, no out
bext I'm not talking about like because the price of
it and you know the tear that it's on. I'm
talking about because it has steak in the name, just
because it got steak in the name.
Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Don't don't do that out back steakhouse.
Speaker 5 (01:10:09):
Don't do that.
Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
You are hard to please though.
Speaker 5 (01:10:13):
You don't like nothing.
Speaker 12 (01:10:15):
I mean, you don't eat nothing, so it's kind of
hard to go anywhere and enjoy myself. Okay, but no, no,
it's about the dad like it starts with the day.
If your dad not already like not in your life,
that that push you close to your mother. Then your
mother feel like she's dating you, so she got to
be in your relationships.
Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
I ain't with none of it.
Speaker 12 (01:10:35):
So but no, no, I'm not talking about Chris, not
talking about you, baby.
Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (01:10:40):
People?
Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Relationship? Got people? This is I mean, I don't have
these problems now, Okay, Well mine is leeless.
Speaker 4 (01:10:51):
My wife is always late. I'm talking to you, gain
like you said about Chris, I'm talking to you. My
wife is always late, okay, to the point where I
have to lie about the time. So if you have
a party at nine, I gotta tell the parties at
eight and we still go get that nine.
Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Thirty ten o'clock.
Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
It is what it is.
Speaker 4 (01:11:08):
But the problem, the problem I have is she'd be late,
and then when I'm downstairs watching the TV, wait want
you like, let's go to Scoll, Let's go scol Let's.
Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Go now wait on you? Now we'aiting on you. I
hate that. So you always on time? Yeah, I'm always
on time.
Speaker 12 (01:11:20):
So you're not black?
Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
What's your.
Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
Not answering the phone?
Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
You know, my wife and I have different phone habits,
Like my phone is usually on me or near me,
so I'm quick to answer if I want to answer
for the person. But she doesn't literally walking around with
her phone on her. But my thing is, that's cool.
When everybody is home, like when I'm home and all
the kids home, none of us need to really be
near our phones because even the parents know the house
phone and stuff like that. But when everybody isn't home,
keep your phone on you because you never know what
(01:11:46):
I'm calling and why I'm calling. Keep your phone on you,
So not answering the phone. That's my my pet peek.
All right, well, let's go to the phone lines.
Speaker 4 (01:11:52):
Hello, who's this, Yes, sir, good morning from Andy.
Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
What's up?
Speaker 8 (01:11:58):
Brother?
Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
What's your pet? Peeve? In a relationship, it's two.
Speaker 5 (01:12:00):
Of them, man.
Speaker 9 (01:12:01):
One of them is a woman that doesn't have a relationship.
You sound like corny for the relationship, God, And the
second one don't sound kind of dang And I can't
say the woman that don't work out, she gotta be active.
Speaker 12 (01:12:11):
Okay, Well you don't sound just just for the record,
you don't sound corny wanting a woman that has a
relationship with God.
Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
That's not corny, that's a good that's a good one.
Speaker 9 (01:12:20):
But that sounds cliche though. It sounds cliche to say,
but it's so unfairtive that you have a relationship. But
just as important, I need her active because I can't
be looking halfway deeply A big body.
Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
You don't want, no big bats, no big bag.
Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
I think, God, what does what does she see? That's
what she need to be praying to God to lose
that weight. Yeah, you don't believe in God?
Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
Hello, who's this maya maya? Good morning? What's a pet
peeve in a relationship for you?
Speaker 7 (01:12:48):
I've been with my husband for ten years today, and
he's flobbers and snores riverd ooh. And I'm a light sleeper,
like I can hear a pin drop like little. He
holds me up from some time. But he comes to
bed like two fiir o'clock in the morning most of
the time because he's not playing the game. But once
he comes to bed, it's like I can't, I can't
(01:13:10):
go back to sleep.
Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
Yea, what the hell?
Speaker 5 (01:13:12):
Why the hell?
Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
Either one of y'all ain't got no jobs. Y'all got
to get up there in the morning. Why he get
to go to bed at three o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
What's up, baby?
Speaker 7 (01:13:19):
We do. We worked out with the schedules because our
kids aren't in daycare.
Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
Okay, so what's got you?
Speaker 5 (01:13:27):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
I feel bad, you know, because you know, snarts a
lot of times. You can't fix that. That's like, yeah,
sometimes medical problematical problem. He don't do that on purpose.
Speaker 7 (01:13:36):
Man, Listen, I ain't never seen nobody snoring laying on
a belly like this. This is a great dang.
Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
You don't nudge him, you know, push him there so
he wake up a little bit.
Speaker 7 (01:13:44):
I do all night. I'm kicking.
Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
I'm hicking.
Speaker 13 (01:13:47):
I'm like.
Speaker 12 (01:13:50):
And she says, slop material probably stank billows price.
Speaker 9 (01:13:54):
Yay.
Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
Yeah, won't you get something like an air plugs or something?
Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
Word and we got fodcast?
Speaker 7 (01:14:00):
Go ahead, All five of them kids blobber. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
Yeah, you gotta leave that family.
Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Baby.
Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
It's like, no, no, no, I'm joking you the better
for worse though you said it.
Speaker 5 (01:14:12):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (01:14:13):
I'm Floyd eight hundred five eight five one oh five one.
We're asking what's a pet peeve in your relationship? Let's
discuss it's the breakfast Club.
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Red is gonna be running the boards.
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It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
A mood days is.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
If your time to get it off your chest, way.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Up, whether you're.
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Man or black, time to get up and get some
call up now. Eight hundred and five eighty five one
O five one. We want to hear from you on
the Breakfast Club. Hey, Nadine, good morning, get it off
your chest. Where you calling him from?
Speaker 5 (00:52):
First?
Speaker 6 (00:52):
I'm calling from Dallas, Okay, Dallas, what's up, Mama.
Speaker 7 (00:57):
I'm under It's a fact girl's side of dating and
I was so great.
Speaker 8 (01:04):
Guys, kick it up and read it.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
How the data fact chick?
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Is it a heavy read?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Is it thick?
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Like?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
How many pages is it?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
How many pages?
Speaker 9 (01:16):
Is It's not that it's not that that thick.
Speaker 8 (01:20):
It's like one hundred and sixteen pages. But it's the
one day read. But it's a great.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Story about about your what my dating life?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Oh you're a big girl, a dull I'm done. She
might not be big no more. It might be her
past life she's writing about.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
It was hard, it was hot for you today.
Speaker 10 (01:39):
No, it's a shy.
Speaker 11 (01:40):
Spirical look at my dating life because it's the things
that I went through and the lessons that I learned
along the way.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Okay, I'd love to read that I had a I
had a homegirl who wrote something like that before it.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Was called dating Wild Fat Wow.
Speaker 9 (01:51):
Well yeah, it's on Amazon, so it's by Nadine Jones.
Speaker 7 (01:55):
Was just see me and again, how to data fact
A fat girl to dating?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
What category is it in food?
Speaker 8 (02:03):
Home?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Jesus? What is it like? What categories?
Speaker 12 (02:07):
It's not it should be I'm asking you.
Speaker 7 (02:10):
I don't know what category is, but it's comedy.
Speaker 8 (02:13):
I think tericall So you're the type of in your finece.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
What's it called again?
Speaker 7 (02:17):
How to Date a Fat Chick?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
So if God takes you out to eat, do you
limit the food that you have so you don't look big?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
You gotta read the book.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
You're right, I'm sorry it came up as a cookbook.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
You know it didn't shut up?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
You know, How to Date a Fat Chick? Background Gods
Are Dating by Nadine Jones.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Alkay.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I like the couple.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
I like that. I like that.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
It looks like what do you call that? A cob
of a cob?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
What do you call that?
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Book?
Speaker 10 (02:43):
Yeah? Whatever that?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, I like that composition? Composition?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
But you have a go one. They did. Thank you
you too, good luck.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Hello?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Who's this?
Speaker 7 (02:55):
What's going on?
Speaker 10 (02:56):
Man?
Speaker 8 (02:56):
My name is super Truck and man I'm out of
eastern North Carolina, a man truck driver.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
What's up, super truck? How you feeling this morning?
Speaker 10 (03:03):
Man? I'm good man. I'm out here shifting kids, making
that black come out to fight?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Okay, all right, what you transporting?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I do?
Speaker 7 (03:11):
Flat Dad from Hall and Building Materials right now?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Okay, all right, we'll be safe.
Speaker 10 (03:15):
For the yo man, I just want to know. Man,
y'all got love for truckers.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Man, you damn right.
Speaker 12 (03:20):
I got love for truckers.
Speaker 13 (03:22):
You know.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
I know YouTube?
Speaker 10 (03:23):
Chess. Hey, look, I got a storm called Truck of Love.
Speaker 8 (03:27):
Man, So y'all geld his hand.
Speaker 10 (03:30):
Check it out.
Speaker 9 (03:31):
It's on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
You still got love for truck and Jesse blow home
for his brother.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I got you all right, man, be safe for them?
Speaker 9 (03:41):
Brother?
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Hello?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Who's this?
Speaker 10 (03:44):
Yo? What's upping me?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
What's up?
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Brother?
Speaker 10 (03:47):
What's up? Jess?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
How y'all doing? What that baby?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Good?
Speaker 13 (03:50):
Good?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
What's going on? Get it off your chest?
Speaker 12 (03:52):
Yo?
Speaker 10 (03:52):
I'm mad at my brother James.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
What's your brother do?
Speaker 10 (03:56):
He's yo? He set me up. I'm sick last night,
I'm feeling well. I'm at home and he lied to
his wife telling her that he was hanging out with
me all night and he wasn't.
Speaker 12 (04:08):
Oh man, I ain't tell you.
Speaker 10 (04:12):
He ain't tell me because I was dead to the world.
And his wife's called my wife asking her was he was.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
He with me?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Oh?
Speaker 12 (04:21):
Man?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
What your wife say? Yo?
Speaker 10 (04:24):
She blew his spot up like hell no, you want
to see the cameras.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Damn.
Speaker 8 (04:29):
She blew him up.
Speaker 10 (04:30):
And he's calling me up. She told him, by Yo,
you're supposed to help me up. I'm like, yo, you
should have told me first.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I hate with somebody.
Speaker 12 (04:37):
Make you a part of the lie, but don't tell
you about the lie.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Like damn dow he man because he say, now, I'm
the reason why his.
Speaker 10 (04:45):
Wife is putting him out. Now he wants to come
and stay.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
In my house.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Hell, you got the reason, and your wife ain't gonn
let him stay. Your wife's gonna let no cheat.
Speaker 10 (04:53):
At the guys, I'm shutting him over to you, envy.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I'm not sitting over to me. I got a couple
of dogs at a make sure he stay out.
Speaker 10 (05:03):
I hear that everything every when you throw it another
mixture tape out. Man, come on shop.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Playing, you'd be rapping.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
You're talking about the DJ. You be rapid.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
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know it ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Bro Oh, come on, v they ain't gonna happen. These
all these artists a lot different, man.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
But back then I would say the artists really respected
the DJ and really loved the DJ. When nexus, Yeah,
the artist was something and they would be happy to
do it.
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Glad to do it. But now I ain't playing a
politics game.
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Brother.
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Yeah, I know what you on Bred Cafe.
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Brother?
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What's going on with you?
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Hey?
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Listen?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I just want to say God bless you charlamagn and
Jef hilarious man for what you do on a daily basis.
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Man, it's not easy and you don't get the I
want to give you flowers while you're here.
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Hello, who's this yo?
Speaker 5 (06:43):
What's up?
Speaker 8 (06:44):
Audist replay from Chicago?
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What up?
Speaker 8 (06:46):
Town?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Replay? What's happening?
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What up?
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What up? Man?
Speaker 8 (06:49):
Look, I gotta give a shout out this morning to
Lauren Leosa.
Speaker 10 (06:53):
Man.
Speaker 8 (06:53):
She been holding down man, she been coming with good news,
good stack. Me and her the same age, man, and
I just love my age. Go hard and then baby girl,
keep doing what you're doing. You know that's what.
Speaker 14 (07:05):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
I appreciate that, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Talking to you.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, what were you saying?
Speaker 13 (07:14):
King?
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Go ahead a king?
Speaker 8 (07:17):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Man?
Speaker 8 (07:18):
Look like I said, I'm replaying. I want to probably
be on on Instagram at lady love.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Why they call you replay?
Speaker 9 (07:24):
Bro?
Speaker 12 (07:24):
Oh man?
Speaker 8 (07:25):
That's actually then they gave me. I'm an R and
B singer and uh, I don't know one of the
guys like replay. I'm like, all right, because I want
everybody to replay my phone.
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Okay, brother, have a good put a little more sauce
on that. You know what I'm saying. You got to
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I don't know.
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You know what I mean?
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Because when I put it down, you know, ladies love
it so much they want to see it again something you.
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Know what I mean?
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Like this happened right with facts?
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Oh okay, I didn't.
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Know something else.
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I thought he was telling me he wasn't in the women.
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I didn't know.
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I'm like, what, excuse me?
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Hello?
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Who is this?
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This is Jake Metal?
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J Madaw?
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Ja Metal?
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The morning?
Speaker 8 (08:05):
You know I'm stressed. You know, I'm tired of people
always asking you, you know how you getting old? But
now you're gonna get married? And I tell him in
a minute.
Speaker 15 (08:14):
Dog.
Speaker 8 (08:14):
You know they're always telling you women and to get a.
Speaker 9 (08:17):
New job, and I tell them in a minute.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Though.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
You know, everyone has their own page and they want
to put you to a standard.
Speaker 10 (08:24):
And do things.
Speaker 8 (08:25):
You know how you do me, I've just turned thirty.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
That's what I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Men get that kind of pressure. I didn't know men
get that. That's not that's husually pressure that's reserved for women.
I'm talking about the marriage party.
Speaker 16 (08:37):
Do you have kids yet?
Speaker 8 (08:39):
No, That's what I'm saying. The man tell you why
I have a kid?
Speaker 9 (08:41):
I tell them in a minute, dog, you know, how
are you me?
Speaker 11 (08:45):
I'm getting close to the age, you know, thirty is
you know, it's that is that point.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
So don't you when they ask you, you know when
you're gonna get married, just be like I'm in the
men though, just say something.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Like that, you know, think so, yeah, that's what I
tell them.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
That right, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
But that's definitely if you got older parents too, because
older parents want grandparents.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I'm sure. So that's what they ask want grandparents.
Speaker 16 (09:07):
Most guys by.
Speaker 17 (09:08):
A certain age, if you don't have kids, that'd be
like or you're not married, they think something.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Older parents want grand kids. That's what I'm meaning.
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Well, you'll meet you'll meet missus, mister Wright in due time.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Mister or missus, I'm no.
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Have a good day, brother. You appreciate you, yes, sir?
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All right, brother, get it off your chest eight hundred
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Speaker 2 (09:34):
Good morning, the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Warning everybody, it's DJ Envy, just hilarious charlamage the god
we are the Breakfast Club law La Rosa is here
as well. We got a special guest in the building,
his new book, Who Better Than You The Art of
Healthy arrogance and dreaming big is out now, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Will Packer family, what's going on.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
And how you feel?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I'm feeling amazing, you know, I'm up here.
Speaker 18 (09:59):
I'm up here with one of the most incredible platforms
in media right now.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Interesting time in media, you know, media ebbs and flows.
Speaker 18 (10:05):
We're in an EBB right now in the movie business, Charlamagne,
you know, yeah, just you know, coming off the strikes,
coming off of COVID, like, the movie industry never really recalibrated.
So there's a lot of folks out there that are
hurting right now, a lot of folks that aren't working,
a lot of actors out of work, writers, and so
as a producer, you know, I'm just trying to keep
people hired, trying to do what I do and create content.
Most people out there, they don't realize because there's so
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much content out there in so many streaming servicess like, oh,
everything out there, I can see whatever I want. But
actually the media companies are making a lot less. So
it's interesting time in the business.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Man.
Speaker 12 (10:37):
Who better than you is the name of the book.
What makes you decide to write this?
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Yo?
Speaker 18 (10:40):
You know, I have been in the movie game for
almost thirty years now, and I have dealt with some
of the biggest names, some of the most impressive, successful people,
some of the most toxic, insecure people. And throughout that process,
I have the set of skills that I want to
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share with people about how you can be successful and
manifest the more full life. How you can use some
of the skills that I've learned that are transferable to
any industry to navigate be it. You want to start
a new endeavor, you want to overcome a challenge, you
want to pivot in your life. And so I'm telling
stories I've never told before, stories from dealing with you know,
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some of my Hollywood folks. But it's really lessons, right,
It's lessons about this is how you deal with people,
how you position yourself to succeed, and how you have
healthy arrogance.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Now to be confused with toxic arrogance.
Speaker 18 (11:38):
Right, toxic arrogant walks in the room and says, I'm
better than everybody here. I'm gonna win because you're gonna lose. Right,
I'm better than you. Healthy arrogance walks in a room
and says, okay, number one, I belong in this room. Right,
the most successful people feel that they don't feel like
am I supposed to be here with all these important people.
Healthy arrogance feels like I'm supposed to be here. However,
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I also have something.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
To add to this room.
Speaker 18 (12:02):
This room is better because I'm in it, and I'm
going to get other people to understand how they and
I have a commonality in terms of our goal. If
you can get other people to see the value in
what you're going after, then you can then get them
to row in the same direction as you.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
And work towards your own goal. That's what leadership is.
Speaker 18 (12:20):
Getting other people to realize that it's not me against you.
If I can get you to understand that together we
both benefit from working together and accomplishing things that are
my goals as well as your goals, your chance for
success is increased.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
You know, when I read about.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
You talk about healthy arrogance or hear your interview is
about healthy ar against it feels like you're saying you
just got It's like a sense of worthiness, it's value.
Speaker 18 (12:44):
It is it is very much understanding the value to
place on yourself.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Right.
Speaker 18 (12:48):
You understand, Charlotte Man, because you talk about mental health
a lot we all have this drum beat in our head, right,
it can be a negative drum beat of I'm not ready,
I'm not worthy, I don't have the skills, I'm not prepared.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
More and more you tell yourself that, the louder those
voices get.
Speaker 18 (13:01):
But there's a confidence muscle that you can build, that
you can grow by telling yourself the exact opposite, that
I am worth it, right, that I am prepared.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
But it's really about assigning value.
Speaker 18 (13:11):
The thing I say to people that understand, from the
time you are born and to the time you leave
this earth, you are building your brand everything you do, right.
I mean, you can't make mistakes. Everybody does. But every
decision you make in everything you do is building your brand,
and it is telling people what value to assign to you.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Whether that's somebody that is looking to.
Speaker 18 (13:31):
Invest in you, looking to date you, looking to just
hang out with you, you are telling them what your
value is. And you have to be healthily arrogant in
the way that you force other people to recognize your value.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
So if you don't have nobody, does that mean you
know worth nothing?
Speaker 18 (13:49):
Well, you know I'm not gonna say that. Well, you
mean like a relationship. Well, that just means that you
have to be sure that you're surrounding yourself with people
that understand your value. It might mean that you're worth
more than people want to give you credit for talking about.
It might mean you're single because other people don't recognize
your value and you're not willing to compromise for you.
Speaker 16 (14:09):
Had something to satte?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
What dog will won't they next?
Speaker 16 (14:21):
Coming this way?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
The sassiness caught me off. God, is that what it is?
Are you with your hair back?
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I'm just asking you a question because I like what
you're talking about.
Speaker 18 (14:33):
Okay, all right, well yes, absolutely so if some you know,
somebody happens to be an amazing, beautiful single sister. I
don't know you know the relationship status of everybody here,
but let's just say present company. Why Well, and she
said you had a sassy next, so she is. She
is immediately the most entertaining.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Person that.
Speaker 17 (14:54):
I want to ask you about imposter syndrome and when
you when did that? Like, when you get past that?
Did you deal with that at all yourself?
Speaker 18 (15:01):
I absolutely deal with everybody deals with Everybody gets to
a point where they feel.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Like, yo, do I belong?
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Right?
Speaker 18 (15:08):
Do I deserve to be in the most important spaces,
and I've been very, very fortunate to be in some
incredible rooms with some people that are, you know, some
of the most powerful people from around the world. As
I said, what I realize is that when I walk
in those rooms, I cannot question if I'm supposed to
be there. I need to realize what is it that
I have that nobody else in this room has, and.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
How can I double down on that?
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Right?
Speaker 18 (15:34):
So, black man, African American film, American Hollywood, not a
lot of folks at my level in the rooms that
I'm in.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Oftentimes it's all white people in those films.
Speaker 18 (15:42):
What I choose to do instead of saying, Okay, I'm
the only black person in this room. I know they're racist.
I know they looking at me a certain way. I
know they have a negative perception. I'm walking in the
room and I'm thinking, Okay, you know what, I'm bringing
something that nobody else can bring. When I talk about
my perspective, when I talk about my audience, when I
talk about my commune, nobody else can debate me on
that because I'm the only one with that lived experience,
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whatever it is in the rooms and the circles that
you're in. What's the unique thing that you have, and
then you triple down on that that will help with
that imposter syndrome. The other thing is that you have
to understand like you don't have to be somebody that's
just born with like an overabundance of confidence.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
It's something that you can build.
Speaker 18 (16:20):
But you do have to build it by putting a
success with a success with a success, right, Like just
like a boum Deg said, check with a check, with
a check, you got to build the successes. And sometimes
to do that you got to come back and not say, Okay,
my first success has to be so big, right, just
accomplish something.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I call it fabricating momental.
Speaker 18 (16:40):
I believe that sometimes we get stuck on the first rum,
the very first thing I'm trying to get started. I
don't have any money, I don't know people, don't have
a network. That's okay, right, Don't make the first thing
you're trying to do to climb the mountain, right, that's
a lot.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
That's a momentous task.
Speaker 18 (16:56):
Make the first thing by the shoes, hike and boost,
then buy a rope, then drive and.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Look at it.
Speaker 18 (17:01):
Well, you know you've done three things right, get started.
Do something that helps to build that confidence.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
We all need that. We got more with Will Packer
when we come back.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
His new book, Who Better Than You, The Art of
Healthy Arrogance and Dreaming Big is out now.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Is the Breakfast Club Good Morning, the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
Morning.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Everybody is dej envy just hilarious, Charlamagne the God we
are the Breakfast Club Lone the Roaster's head with us
as well. We're still kicking it with Will Packers new book,
Who Better Than You, The Art of Healthy Arrogance and
Dreaming Big, is out now, Charlamagne.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
I want to get to the audit the pivot, but
first I want to ask you about the chapter that says,
seeing your laney, Yeah, just just make it wide, lean
into your thing?
Speaker 9 (17:41):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
How does one avoid being typecasted by leaning into their thing?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
And when?
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Do you know?
Speaker 3 (17:47):
The pivot?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, you know it.
Speaker 18 (17:49):
The whole point of that chapter is about when you
have something that you do really, really well, because many
times people are afraid of being locked into something that
people will think, that's all I can do, right, But
if you do that thing, and you do it really
really well, do not stop.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Okay, don't stop.
Speaker 18 (18:07):
The most successful people have a thing that they do
and they do it well. Then they use the ability
to be successful in a lane to go out and
do something else. I'm only able to write this book
with a major publisher because I've been very successful in
a particular media.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Right now, I'm able to go and do other things.
So don't worry about that. Oh well, I can do
so much other stuff. What's the thing you do really well?
Do that?
Speaker 18 (18:29):
Triple down on that. Be the best person in that
particular field. And by the way, find your passion within that.
Right too many times people are telling me, well, I'm
not passionate about something. I gotta wait to find my
passion and before I go out and work really hard.
And I'm telling you, you're building your brand from day one.
Work hard today. I didn't have a passion to be
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a filmmaker. I will admit that, but I did not.
That was not my dream growing up. But I found
that I was really good at knowing how to hire
actors and raise money and self distribute. And then I
found the passion in storytelling later, so I found the
thing I was really really good at, and then I
found my passion within it. I encourage people to do
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that and worry about being type passed.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Stay in your lane, but you can make it. Why.
Speaker 18 (19:15):
I'm not trying to pigeonhole you, and I'm not trying
to limit what you can do, but stay in your lane.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Too often we are trying to do.
Speaker 18 (19:22):
Too much, and now you can't be the person that's
doing everything the best.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
That is just not how humans work. What's the thing
you do well? Triple down on that.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
So once you've leaned into your thing and you find
that thing, there's never a pivot from that thing.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
It can be a pivot where you use that thing.
Speaker 18 (19:39):
You use your ability, you use your brand, You use
the fact that you have got credibility in a particular space.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
You have done the exact same thing.
Speaker 18 (19:46):
You use the fact that you have credibility in one
lane in order to then expand your lane. Right, But
it should still all be about this is the thing
that I do. That's why I say stay in your lane,
but make your lane.
Speaker 17 (19:58):
Why is there ever a time where like you're because
I mean, I remember when you told the story about
Kevin and with the last time you guys were here. Yeah,
and now I'm seeing in context of this book of
like who better than you? And I feel like in
that moment he had the arrogance to be like, I
can do both of these. I'm going to be fine
and it's all going to work out. But things like
that can kind of get pretty tricky because what if
it hadn't have worked out? Is there ever a moment
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where you have to tell somebody who's coming to you
for this type of who better than you?
Speaker 16 (20:22):
Advice?
Speaker 17 (20:23):
Like, maybe this is not it for you right now,
maybe there's someone better than you right now, but that
doesn't mean later you might not be able to have
that who better than you?
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Eric, you have to be honest with yourself number one.
Speaker 18 (20:33):
Right, We live in a world where people think either
they are too great or they are too awful. Rodger
Kipling has a poem called if, and my favorite stanza
in that poem is if you can meet with triumph
and disaster and treat those two impostors just the same.
That is saying that both triumph and disaster are impostors,
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neither of them are real.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Right.
Speaker 18 (20:59):
Too many times, because we post some on social media,
everybody tell you, oh my god, you're the greatest thing ever,
so good or the opposite.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
They just hate No, you're telling you how oftful you are.
Speaker 18 (21:07):
Neither of that is true. You gotta stay even keelled.
So the first thing you gotta do is be honest
about you and your skill set. It's the only way
you're gonna get better. Don't worry about external factors. You
got to have a very honest conversation. One of the
things I talk about in the book is how we
have to make sure I'm a daily affirmation type of person.
You're there encouraging yourself right, giving yourself positivity, telling yourself
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how you're ready, how you prepared, what you can do,
but also being very very honest with yourself. I don't
care what you tell the world. A lot of yourself,
a lot of your mom, a lot of your cousin,
lot of your boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife. Do not lie
to yourself. Be very very clear about what it is
that you do.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Well, yeah, you know, I want to talk you about
the Packer family model too.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
If you want to have what others, won't you have
to do with others don't?
Speaker 5 (21:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Well, yeah, so you got your.
Speaker 18 (21:53):
Mom with you again her, I got moms, I got
you know what, It's something that mom instilled in me.
You know, when I was growing up, Mom and dad
they took me like you know, like simbing the lion
king and lifting me up and said, you know, whatever
the son touches is your son. Like I encourage my
folks with kids, do that. Tell your kids because that's
when they're the most impressiable. Tell them they can do anything.
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They told me that, and so I was very audacious
growing up with my family. It's me, my wife. We
have four children, So that's the six pack. If you
want to have what others don't, you have to be
willing to do what others won't.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Period.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
That is the mantra.
Speaker 18 (22:27):
The mantra is that understand whatever it is that you
want to do, if anybody else can do it, then
it's not special.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
You're not gonna get it right. You're not gonna get
something that's unique.
Speaker 18 (22:37):
You gotta be willing to do what others are not
to get that thing. And I believe that the more
you do hard things, the better.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
You become at hard things.
Speaker 18 (22:48):
The more hard things you do, the easier hard things become.
So don't run from doing hard things. Don't run from
doing the things that everybody else says it's crazy. That's
the only way you gonna get strength and to build
that muscle. It's by doing those hard things. Why I
say dream big because your dream has got to be
so big, because there's gonna be challenges along the way.
It's gotta be so big that it pushes you past
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those challenges inevitably. Because if the dream is just a
mediocre dream, like man, it'd be kind of cool to
do that. Then when you run into a speed bump
and that's really hard, you're gonna say, you know what,
it ain't worth it.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I'm cool, right, But if the dream is so big, right,
I mean.
Speaker 18 (23:23):
So big for color for h four khd, like super crazy,
beyond your wireless dreams big, then when you do hit
that hard moment, those challenges, you know it's worth it
to keep going and keep fighting because the dream.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Is big enough.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Is Will Packer allowed to turn his own book into
a movie?
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Limited seriously?
Speaker 18 (23:44):
Yeah yeah, I mean it's some Will Packers. You know
what I think about doing it?
Speaker 5 (23:48):
I could do that.
Speaker 16 (23:48):
I saw Heather in the background this day.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
You know what head to say in the background. I
don't know.
Speaker 17 (23:52):
I just saw something I was given a lean like
maybe no, don't do it right now or something.
Speaker 18 (23:58):
You know what, I've made this book not to turn
into a movie or a TV show. You never say never,
because you know one of my biggest movies is Think
Like a Man. Steve Harvey will tell you he never
thought of that as a move never. He never wrote
it for that. I wrote this to give the master
mentorship that I didn't have. I have people coming to
me a lot and saying, tell me about your success story,
(24:19):
tell me about your failures, tell me about what you
had to overcome. And so when I tell these stories,
right and I talk about you know, Beyonce turning me
down five times, or I Yourselba, you know, almost not
walking the carpet at the first Emmy's and how you
get past that? Like, when I tell these stories, I'm
doing that so that other people can benefit from it.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
So I could turn into a movie. That's not what
I made it for.
Speaker 18 (24:41):
I literally made this book so that I could influence
other folks who are either on their way up, thinking
about making a pivot or living a life that they
know could be a little more fulfilling.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Well, we appreciate you for joining us.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Well pack a new book.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Who better than you to all the healthy arrogance and
dreaming big out right now. Always a pleasure to see
you go out there and buy this book making the.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
New York Times bestseller.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Missisiate you found. I appreciate you, Man, thank you, Thank
you all for having me.
Speaker 18 (25:06):
Charlotte Mann, and thank you because you're somebody that you know.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
And I told you this.
Speaker 18 (25:10):
We saw each other at the Democrat National Convention and
I told you I had written my first book, and
I was inspired by your books and by reading your
books and just seeing that process and the grind that
you put in. So you never know who's watching and
who you're inspiring. So thank you, my brother, thank you
for having me.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
It's Will Packer. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, you're
checking out the Breakfast Club Morning.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Everybody's DJ Envy, Jesse, Larus, Charlamaine the God. We are
the Breakfast Club Lawn La Rosa. It's here and we
got a special guest in the building. David o' yellowwoe
was here.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Did say it?
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Did you did? Okay?
Speaker 3 (25:45):
I had to ask you beforehand.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
You know, I appreciate that you did.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yeah, I see it all the time, but I'm like,
I don't want to hack it when I try to.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Say it now, everyone everyone does, but you mailed that.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
How are you, sir?
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Very good? Very good. It's great to be here.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Absolutely so.
Speaker 17 (25:57):
You got a government cheese happening right now Apple TV?
Yeah so and watching this but also some of the
other things that I've seen you play in. Can you
just first talk about your career and like the roles
that you select, all of the roles that I know
you for are very powerful, very like you tell stories
that are like so important to black people coming out
the gate you are. Is that something you were like, Hey,
(26:19):
this has to be it for me, this is what
I want to do. Or did you just fall into
these roles because like, how did it happen?
Speaker 5 (26:26):
No, thank you for saying that. It's very intentional. You know.
I was incredibly influenced by film and television growing up,
and I was aware quite early that the images I
was taking in were in some ways informing me of
what blackness means globally speaking. And then I had this
(26:48):
incredible moment where, having been born and grown up in
the UK, we moved back to Nigeria for six years.
We made you six to thirteen, and I was suddenly
in a country, in an environment where I was not
a minority, everything on offer in that society was mine
for the taking. And I realized that these images that
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I was internalizing that often had Black people on the
periphery or playing what I deemed to be caricatures or stereotypes,
were insidious, were detrimental to us as a people. And so,
having moved back to the UK becoming an actor, I
felt that if I'm not part of the solution, I'm
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part of the problem. And so I've definitely gravitated towards
roles and projects that mean that I am trying to
change what I saw growing up. I'm trying to widen
the aperture and contextualize who and what we are as
black people.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
That's interesting, I wonder, how did you know that you
know they were characters and stereotypes if you've never if
you had mental America to see.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
For yourself, Because I was living in communities where black
people were central to their own lives, and I knew
that what I was saying, because it wasn't just America,
it was in the UK as well. You know, if
if every time you see a black person, they are
on the periphery of the narrative if so often they
are criminalized or marginalized. That was not my experience walking
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through the earth, and so I felt that's intentional, that's political,
that's propaganda in a sense, and it's having a detrimental
effect on me because there is a disconnect between my
lived experience and what I'm internalizing on screen. So that's
how I knew it was something to become batter. You know.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
It's so interesting, right, because I have that conversation often
because you know, when you watch film in television in
the nineties, if everything had some type of socially redeeming value, right,
you know what I mean? And I always wonder what
the hell happened to it? It felt like it was intentional. Yeah,
put him to stop showing us that and start giving
us like the reality television.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Yeah, well, I can tell you exactly what happened. So often,
why you got you had the those films that were
bringing context to who we are as black people is
because it was largely being framed and made by a
black people. What has happened a lot is that our stories,
we craft them, we developed them. But at some point
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you've got to take it to people who have green
light power who are not from our demographic and so
therefore you're having to push who we are through their
perception of who we are, and it almost always gets eroded,
watered down, or marginalized. And that's what's happening for some
reason in the nineties that there were there were producers,
(29:36):
there were creatives, there were directors who were just doing
it all themselves, and it was getting celebrated and it
was less watered down, and that's why I think we
had that golden era.
Speaker 16 (29:45):
Is it ever heavy for you?
Speaker 17 (29:46):
Because I remember watching you in the story about doctor
Martin Luther King and yeah, in like, I know there's
a lot because you also have done theater. Yeah, you're
very serious about what you do, so I know that
there's a lot of study and deep study and certain
things of that nature. So you're probably doing that for
every single role. And there's a lot of like just
trauma that you take on differently because you get so
close to your characters. How does that stick with you,
(30:09):
like in that pressure from outside world too, of like
these are characters and people that you know have shaped
our world.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Yeah, I mean I try to stay away from the
trauma component. What I mostly gravitate towards are aspirational representations
of us. So in playing Dr King, the gift for
me was to see a leader, to see someone who
was an icon, but who was a human being as well.
(30:34):
And I'm interested in stories where we get to be triumphant,
where we get to be someone you would aspire to be,
no matter what demographic of person you are. More often
than not, when you see black people in a historical context,
we are browbeaten, we're broken down, and often we don't
We're not allowed to ascend. You won't catch me in
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that narrative. For me personally, we have got to for
me be on an upward trajectory in whatever we do,
so it's less traumatic, it's more celebratory of who we
are without shying away from the challenges we face.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Yeah, they never want to show you the slave revolting.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Right right, exactly exactly. And for me, you know, that's
why I resist slave narratives because it's very hard to
find the triumphant in that. The closest I came to
that was playing bass Reefs. In that this show Lowman
bass Reefs, he starts enslaved. But the great thing about
being a producer is that you can ensure or be
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a voice in where the narrative goes. I would not
have taken that on if he didn't go from enslavement
to empowerment. Staying in enslavement is not something that I
want to project to our people, because there are people
who enjoy that narrative as a means of keeping us down.
Speaker 17 (31:54):
You said something interesting, you said it being a producer
you get to kind of like, you know, help to
figure out where the character development goes and stuff like that.
What part of your career did that become an option
for you, because not all actors have the ability to
be on a set and say, hey, I think that
we should change this or in power differently because of
how my people will see this. When did that happen
first in your career?
Speaker 5 (32:13):
It happened by accident. It was on Selma. I got
the script just as an actor in two thousand and seven,
felt a real calling to play that role. But I
auditioned for it and the first director said, David o'yelowo
is not Doctor King. That was literally the feedback, And
it took another seven years before the film came to fruition.
(32:35):
But What I could never had anticipated was that I
would go from being an actor who was rejected initially
to three directors later because they just kept on not
wanting to make that movie because black doesn't travel, the
audience is not going to gravitate towards it. Whatever the
excuses are they say that, well they did, Oh yeah,
(32:57):
I mean yeah, you think this is a film about
King Ala Perry.
Speaker 16 (33:01):
Because they said that.
Speaker 17 (33:02):
They told Tyler Perry black people would in lead the
theater to go to the movies.
Speaker 16 (33:05):
They don't travel beyond.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
So he met global you meant every global box office
right globally, but here as well. That the narrative was
black people don't want to see black struggle, White people
don't want to feel white guilt and things like that.
But you know, it wasn't until twenty ten. Lee Daniels
actually came along and was the one who actually cast
me in it. Still couldn't get the film made. In
the meantime, I did a small film with Ava Duvene
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called Middle of Nowhere, small two hundred thousand dollars movie,
and I felt she is a genius. Lee had moved
on from the project because they wouldn't give him enough
money to make it, and I went in and fought
very hard for Ava to be the one to direct it.
She rewrote the script. It was brilliant rewrite of the script.
Still couldn't get it made. I'd done the Butler with
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Oprah at that time. I invited Oprah on to be
a producer on the film. Twelve Years a Slave came
out and had done well, which had broken down this
notion of our stories not traveling. And so the aggregation
of all of those things is what went on to
mean Selma got made well. I didn't realize I was
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doing by bringing on Ava, bringing on Oprah, fighting daily
to try and get the thing made, was producing and
so I thought, oh, okay, well I can do that
again for the things that I believe in and I'm
passionate about. And so you know, that was ten eleven
years ago now and I haven't still upset Hi.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
We have more with David o' yellowoe when we come back.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning morning everybody. It's theej
Envy Jesse, hilarious, Charlamagne de God. We are the Breakfast Club.
Laur La Ross here as well. We're still kicking it
with David o' yellowol, Lauren.
Speaker 16 (34:40):
I want to talk about government Cheese.
Speaker 17 (34:42):
So the name itself of the series, let's talk about
that first, because it's referring to the government Cheese program,
which is a kind of like an overarching conversation that
you guys have throughout the series without really.
Speaker 16 (34:53):
Having it all the way.
Speaker 17 (34:54):
Yeah, So talk about the you know, just the choice
of title with that, and you know what, you hope
the hope is that people get just from looking at
the title before they even see it.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
Yeah, I mean, government cheese for us was symbolic of
what we tend to do as black people. You know,
necessity being the mother of invention. We will take nothing
and make it into something. And government cheese, as people
may know, as government subsidized food. There was powdered eggs,
there was powdered milk as well, and with government cheese
(35:23):
in particular. You talk to people even now they have this,
you know, they go into this place in their heads
when they think about those grilled cheese, sandwichees or the
mac and cheese, and they talk about it incredibly fondly
because it was, you know, a not particularly nutritious food
that people made into a delicacy. And what you have
with the Chambers family is that they are this black
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family in the valley in the sixties, making something out
of nothing. This guy starts the show incarcerated, has this
epiphany about making a self sharpening drill. It's going to
be the means by which his family comes out of
the challenging situations they're in. So it's aspirational. You have
the character that similar Mysic plays. He's a receptionist, but
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she wants to be an interior designer. You have our
son who's aspiring to be a pole vaulter. You have
this other son of ours who you know is completely
obsessed with Native American culture. Everyone is looking beyond where
they are from an aspirational point of view, and in
many ways, government cheese is sort of symbolic that.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
What's the equivalent of government cheese in the UK? I
don't as a British Man, did you understand what that was?
Speaker 5 (36:30):
Yes, I mean we don't have exactly the same thing,
but I remember, you know, you got bottles of milk
that everyone got, you know, that would get dropped at
your house every every morning, and that was something that
was across the nation. Super rich people were not getting
that necessarily, but it was you know, lower income family.
So that's the closest that we got in terms of
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that situation. But the thing I know from living in
the UK, living in Nigeria and Africa, living here is
that we're wherever you go. The resilience of black people
in terms of you know, making something out of nothing
is just something that feels pretty universal.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
You've had other roles that have highlighted black life from
the sixties. What about government Cheese felt different from other projects.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
This is the amount of joy on display and just
the relatability. I think. You know, our experience is very specific,
especially in the sixties as it pertains to civil rights
and black struggle. But you know, with this family, they
are dealing not only with economic challenges but marital challenges,
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and they are raising kids and you know, just just
trying to make ends meet, and I think all of
those things are what make it fresh and familiar. At
the same time, you know, you've seen black people in
the sixties, but never quite like this, never quite in
this place, and never this family. You know, they're kind
of out there. But you know, I have a kids myself,
(38:01):
and you know, it's weird. It's not until you go
to a restaurant and you see people looking you funny
and you realize how weird and quirking your own family
is because you're just being super loud and people are
king into your conversation. So I think we're probably all
a bit more quirky and with than we can to admit.
Speaker 17 (38:17):
Well, this series is definitely a lot more like light
and fun and you know, even though it takes on
like some serious undertones. But I was reading this article
that you did with a mental magazine. Yeah, and you
were talking about going out into Wyoming on a ranch
with your kids.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 17 (38:30):
When I saw the article, I was like, this is
like a random interview for him to have right now.
And then I was reading and I was like, I
get it because you put yourself in a light of
like a person who has had to learn again to
just like relax and just be fun and just be
a person. Because you know, you're studying your acting, you're working.
Then there's clauses where you can't go out and do
stuff like that, which makes a lot of sense. Yeah,
(38:51):
but those moments with your kids where you're just they're
seeing you as like a human or it's like Dad
is fun, Dad can do these things. How does that
reignite you when you get back on these sets, you know,
and you take on these characters like the one in
a government cheese.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
I'm so glad you brought that up, because you know,
everything I'm saying is hard work. You know, when I
make a show, probably in the past, to an unhealthy degree,
I feel like it's a political act. I feel like
it's not just about me going to work and taking
on a story, bringing my people with me. And you
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could argue that there are elements of that that are unhealthy.
And so to smell the roses while you're on the journey,
to continue to intentionally enjoy your family, enjoy your marriage,
enjoy your home has been something that I've tried to
afford myself more and more as I've got deeper into
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my career, especially as there are now more wins on
the board. You know, there are really significant things I've
done that are absolutely in line with what I set
out to do, and the temptation is to just be, Okay,
what's next, what's next, what's next? And you know, I
have four kids, three boys and a girl. I have
a wife, I deeply love, and you know that is
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just as important. And a life well lived is not
really about what you did. It's how you made people
feel and the things that well, there you go, and
you're right, And I want the people closest to me
to feel like I was present, to feel like I
didn't just say I loved them, but my actions demonstrated
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that as well. And I think that's time. That's just
constantly demonstrating to the people you love that you value
being in their presence. And so that is that. That's
I'm working on it. I'm not going to tell you that,
you know, I'm all the way there, but that's definitely
an intention I'm trying to bring more into my life.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Is that what you meant when you said in the
article that you came back a different dad?
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (40:50):
I came back a different Wow. You guys really do
your research. You really read that audience.
Speaker 17 (40:59):
Whoever was that pitch that that was so smart because
in looking at you up everything Okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
I didn't even know she pitched it.
Speaker 16 (41:05):
Yeah, well you don't just end up in mental magazine.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Oh I thought.
Speaker 17 (41:11):
I would have ran it up too, But you know,
when I saw that, I was like it was so genius,
because I think your reputation as an actor is so
like it. It's very like stern and you know, silent
and serious. And then I said this article about you
doing all this stuff with my oomen with your kids,
I'm like, wait, hold on, what you'd be having fun?
Speaker 3 (41:30):
So it made me That's what I guess.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Yeah, when you said you came back a different dad,
I guess you just realized, like, I can't just be
so much into my work.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
I still got to be Pops.
Speaker 5 (41:40):
But but also, you know, I was a really rambunctious kid.
I would throw myself all over the place. I was
one of three boys. And then I had my own
kids and I got super like wrapping them in cotton wool,
like careful, careful, don't do that, you know. And then
we went on this trip well horse riding and the
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ATVing and where you're shooting arrows and bike riding, and
I just really just let myself go, probably a bit
too much because I went flying over the handlebars of
the ATV at one point. But you know, I do
that when I'm playing a role because it's like throw
yourself into the role, do whatever the role requires. But
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for my kids to see me having fun in that
way was an eye opener for them. And I came
back differently because I was like, you know what, I
am almost playing a role for my kids in order
for them to be safe, but they also need to
see dad letting loose and having fun, because then they'll
hopefully take the right kind of risks, not just you know,
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careless risks. And it was a shift in the dynamic,
and it was something I actually didn't want to go on,
particularly my wife won it in a raffle, this trip
to this dude ranch and then sent us all out,
and you know, I'm so grateful that we did it,
and we've done so many more things like that since
then because it was hugely beneficial for our family.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
We have more with David o' yellowoe when we come back.
It's the breakfast Club.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
Come morning morning. Everybody is thej Envy, Jess Hilarrys, Charlamagne
the guy. We are the breakfast Club. Laurla Roles is
here as well. We're still kicking it with David o'
yellow old Charlomagne.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Did you have any reservations about playing MLK because you
are a British actor and you know, there's always that thing,
oh why are all the British actors playing the roles
of American icons?
Speaker 5 (43:24):
No, because of the way it came in. You know,
when I read the script in two thousand and seven,
I had never been thinking of myself as doctor King,
you know, but I'm a Christian. I was in a
time of praying and fasting and I felt, God, tell
me you are going to play this role. And then
the way it came about eventually, which is that, you know,
(43:45):
I can safely say pretty much no one worked as
hard to get that film made as I did, and
I would probably say no one else was quite as
influential in getting that film made, between bringing on Ava,
between bringing on Oprah, between all the the work done
behind the scenes to try and get the film made.
So for me, I just found it unacceptable that the
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only American who had a holiday named after him in
the twentieth century, who happens to be a black man,
had not had a film made about him. Yet I
wasn't feeling like I have to be the one to
make it. But this was already fifty years after his assassination.
Why do we not have the movie? And I'm a
big believer in. If not me, then who, And so
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I was never really thinking I'm British, it should be
someone else. And the reality is that when Lee Daniels
was casting for it, he met everyone I met. I
saw the list of some of the people he met.
I was like, Oh my lord, I cannot believe I'm
going up against my heroes. Who even dare think I'm
going to be the one to play this. But I
eventually got the role, and so for me it's a
(44:53):
question of Okay, now I've been given the opportunity, It's
less about whether or not I should play it. It's
more about how well do it. That is going to be,
at the end of the day, the thing that I
want people to judge. And so I never really thought
about it in that way, because at the end of
the day, I have no interest in playing myself on Spain.
I'm always going to be gravitating towards the most extreme
(45:14):
challenge in terms of playing someone who's not necessarily me.
Speaker 17 (45:17):
Do you ever could you have your production companies Eoroba
Saxony ORBA Saxon. So I know that you and your
wife co run that production company, and I'm sure a
lot of the stories that you guys tell are very
close to the heart as far as like black stories,
just by your passion here, do you get backlash at
all because you're not married to a black woman doing that?
Speaker 16 (45:34):
And how do you deal with that?
Speaker 5 (45:35):
Ifsol not to my face, there are plenty of people
who feel some kind of way about that. But we
called it Yuba Saxon because you know, I'm from the
Yuroba tribe in Nigeria. She's Anglo Saxon, And so you know,
our company is a demonstration of the fact that we
are more alike than we are different as human beings
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generally speaking. You know, in making government che yes, it's
a black family. But my hope and my bet is
that everyone is gonna see their family in that family
because of the relatable themes and components that we've woven
into it. And so you know, I'm incredibly proud of
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my family. I fell in love with my wife when Gusha.
We met when we were teenagers. We got married when
she was twenty i was twenty two, and everything we
had we built together. So you know, for me, sometimes
the accusation, you know, in marrying a white woman is
you know, they'd say things like there's self loathing in there,
or what's the other one, or that she's a trophy
(46:39):
or something like that. We were so poor when we
started out, they couldn't be less trophy or if it tried.
But you know, I am an incredibly proud black man,
African Christian husband, father. There are so many things that
I am on top of my democrat thinking, who I'm
(47:00):
married to, and those are all reflected in the in
the work that iron we do.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
You and your wife should be thinking about producing a
biopic on a great man named doctor Umar Johnson. He's
an activist here an America scholar. Wow yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
to think about that, just look.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
At it, look look into it, Listen to listen.
Speaker 5 (47:20):
I'm going to keep he's about in trouble. Was that
about to become a mean? Just then about a mean?
Speaker 16 (47:30):
There's a whole change.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Trust me, they'll love you for that withever role that
you will pitch that you morally said to yourself, I
can't do this.
Speaker 5 (47:39):
Well, what tends to happen is the minute you play
a civil rights leader, you get every civil rights leader
who's ever lived. Uh, which so I definitely I definitely
said though to those the minute you play a groundbreaking character.
There's a whole genre called the first black man who.
You know, I get a lot of first black man who,
which I'm not.
Speaker 16 (48:01):
What's the craziest thing you was, like you, I didn't
even know a black man, didn't it.
Speaker 5 (48:04):
I want to say that there have been like windscreen wipers,
the guy who invented the paper clip, the guy who
like like it's it's it's ridiculous. It gets as ridiculous
as that, and people will come to you like full
of passion. The other one you want to really avoid
is when someone goes, man, I got this script.
Speaker 11 (48:22):
It's by my dad, and he he the first person
who had a car wash in Alabama and all that
kind of stuff, and I just like, I don't know
how to tell you that.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
That is not a movie.
Speaker 5 (48:37):
I'm just I'm just so sorry, but that's not going
to be my next But I got your next project,
go in and Out.
Speaker 16 (48:43):
It is crazy.
Speaker 5 (48:45):
Because it happens a lot of a lot to me.
So so yeah, those are the ones to avoid as well.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
Absolutely.
Speaker 17 (48:52):
Oh you mentioned so casually multiple times, Oprah, just.
Speaker 16 (48:57):
Just very casually.
Speaker 17 (48:59):
I read it the story about when you invited her
to Odello opening night, and she had to sit on
the hard benches and she never let you leave that down.
Speaker 5 (49:06):
She just never stopped talking about child those benches. But
she came to Coriolanus, which I just did in London,
and they had cushionsy, yes, so you know we are
beyond the bad benches now, but yeah, and they were
very tough benches towards three hours of Shakespeare. So she
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fair point. But I'm glad that we've broken the deadlock.
Speaker 17 (49:29):
She show up a lot for you, though it sounds
like just in what I'm hearing you say, like what's
that relationship, and like, because you know, opraint coming out
the house for everybody, she is not.
Speaker 5 (49:38):
She's not. Yeah, you know, we met doing The Butler together,
and I remember being stood at a party at Lee
Daniel's house that he was renting in New Orleans when
we were shooting that film, and it was at a
time when I just felt I felt very isolated. I
felt very alone. I'd moved here with my family, if
I'm totally honest, I felt like there were other actors
(50:00):
who saw me as a threat in a way that
confused me, because I was like, I'm just you know,
i'd come out of theater in the UK. It's an
environment where it's all about, you know, about the work
and working together and people who were like, you know
that coming here to take our jobs thing was a
real thing I was feeling. And I just remember still
(50:22):
being stood in a corner at this party and Oprah
came up to me and said, you're okay. I said,
you know what, you know, I'm really glad to have
gotten this movie. But it's just I don't know if
you've ever felt this, just like your own community is
is resisting you, which is what I'm feeling.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
She's the first, whatever you said earlier, the first ever.
Speaker 5 (50:44):
I know, and so exactly your reaction there was her reaction.
She was like baby. And she talked about how Sidney
Poitier was the one who took her under his wing
and said, no, you're not crazy. This is a real thing.
It's something that is unfortunately part of ascending in our community.
(51:06):
And he mentored her and she literally said to me,
I am going to do for you what he did
for me. And she has never abated on that. You know,
Summer doesn't happen without her, My directorial debut doesn't acting
happen without her. So much of the advice, so much
of the financial literacy I have came from her because
(51:27):
I didn't come from means. My parents were not particularly
good business people, even though they had a business. And
so yeah, she has really really made good on that
promise and it's been absolutely life changing.
Speaker 16 (51:39):
People definitely hate you now, you know, no, just pop outside.
Speaker 5 (51:46):
I know, I know, I know. I made a rod
from my back. Pause.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
David, thank you for joining us, brother, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
Government Cheese is on Apple TV right now and it
was a pleasure talking to you, man.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
And I'll be a strange it's David a Yellow World.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
Yes, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Speaker 12 (52:00):
He gave me dounky other day and I deserve that.
Speaker 3 (52:02):
You need to know.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
You need to tell them. I am you have the boy.
Speaker 16 (52:06):
Tell them.
Speaker 3 (52:08):
It's time for Donkey Day.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
It's a read. But you're so good at Charlamage.
Speaker 10 (52:14):
He wants charlamage to.
Speaker 15 (52:17):
My mom.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Now, Salomame who he's a Dusky of the Day two
now well, sexy rad Donkey of to Day go goes
to Ashley Cross. Ashley is a thirty seven year old
African American woman from Memphis, Tennessee. Okay, salute everyone who
listens to us on K ninety seven in Memphis.
Speaker 3 (52:32):
Now, I'm sure that you all are aware by now.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
There's a lot of companies that rolled back their diversity
equity and including initiatives. One of those companies is Walmart. Now,
if you read my first book, Black Privilege, and you
know that joy Walmart brought me as a child, because
when you grow up in the country, like I did,
salute the monks corner South Carolina, drop on the clues,
bumps form most corner South Carolina. When you grow up
in the country or rural area, the twenty five hour
Walmart is everything. Okay, that's what we would go late
(52:56):
at night because there was nothing else to do. Yes,
the good old days, walking the holy grounds of Walmart.
This was way back in the day when the only
thing they were rolling back is prices. But a lot
of people have called for a boycott at these companies,
in particular Target, but Ashley Cross has decided that she
is staging a one woman boycott of Walmart. Yes, in fact,
Ashley is not going to be shopping at Walmart in period.
(53:21):
No Walmart in the country, none of them ever Again, Okay,
do you have that kind of commitment to your boycott?
Can you vow to never shopping an establishment ever again?
Are a scott paper tower being ten sixty eight for
twelve rolls too great a deal to pass up?
Speaker 3 (53:35):
Well?
Speaker 1 (53:35):
If it is, then you can always do what Ashley
did because it's guaranteed Ashley will never step foot in
any Walmart ever again. And I lie, it's not because
she's boycotting Walmart. It's actually because Walmart is boycotting her.
What do you mean, uncle, Charla, Walmart is boycotting her? Well,
let's go to news Channel three for the report.
Speaker 13 (53:52):
Police Ashley Cross, charged with criminal trespass and theft of
merchandise is, according to the police report, a well known
shoplifter at this Walmart on Elvis Presley Boulevard in Whitehaven,
so well known to Walmart that Cross is on an
Authorization of Agency list, meaning she's banned from any Walmart
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location in the United States. The Elvis Presley Boulevard stores
where Cross and another suspect were arrested February tenth, Cross
was seen unisying and devised to scan her items for
one dollar at a self checkout machine.
Speaker 19 (54:27):
Ashley Cross remains in jail on a seventy five hundred
dollars bond. She is due back in court February nineteenth.
The suspect with cross received a misdemeanor citation for theft
of property.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
Oh, she already with the court. I wonder what happened. Listen.
Speaker 1 (54:41):
I used to shoplift up until twenty sixteen. Okay, that's
when I stopped shoplifting. But I didn't, you know, feel
like I was stealing.
Speaker 2 (54:48):
Because nine years ago, you had a little money.
Speaker 16 (54:51):
Nine years ago, are you still stealing?
Speaker 1 (54:53):
I don't know, But I didn't feel like you was
stealing because I didn't try to hide anything. I would
walk in and, you know, take what I want and
just walk out. I only get caught when you look suspicious,
you know. Plus I never really stole anything but magazines,
you know, when I was young, like Black and Miles,
twelve packs of butt light, random stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (55:09):
But Ashley is clearly a kleptomaniac.
Speaker 1 (55:11):
And she's good because she was using a bar code
from an old watch battery to scan all her items
for just one dollar to self checkout. I stand a
creative thief. Okay, y'all still stealing? Like flintstones. Actually out
here like a jetson with it. Maybe this is the
normal way to shoplift. Now, I don't steal anymore, so
I wouldn't know. But Ashley stole eleven packs of Ramen noodles,
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women's boots, a pair of jeans, and a T shirt,
all totaling one hundred and thirty seven dollars and thirty
four cents. Now, this woman was clearly stealing essentials. Okay,
these are reasonable things to steal. Ramen noodles, boots, clothes.
I understand. In America, I'm gonna tell you something you
don't want to hear. There's gonna be a lot more
of this. Why because during America's inflation crisis, Walmart was
(55:56):
the spot.
Speaker 3 (55:57):
Okay, you can.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
Get good deals all types of essentials. And yesterday Walmart
said things are about to get slow because consumers are
growing increasingly frustrated with inflation, and they're concerned about President
Trump's tasks. Basically, folks being broke. And if people keep
losing their jobs, they will be broken. And if you
are the reason okay people are losing their jobs, like
Elon Musk and Donald Trump are. In regards the federal workers,
(56:18):
and you're putting tariffs on items. Not only do I
not have a job, things are going to be even
more expensive. So what am I going to resort to doing?
I tell you what people will resort to doing. Trying
to survive, and trying to survive can look like a
number of things, and sometimes one of those things is shoplifted.
I'm not making excuses for Ashley. I'm just telling America
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what the inevitable is when you don't take care of
the least of us. Nevertheless, Ashley crosses on Walmart's authorization
of agency lists, which prohibits her from entering any Walmart
store across the country. I didn't know such a list existed,
but Ashley is on it, and she is currently well,
not even know if currently, but she was being held
on the seventy five hundred dollar bond, probably still in it.
(57:02):
She's probably still look in it because if he had
one hundred and thirty four dollars to get these items
for Walmart, you damn sure ain't got the seventy five
hundred dollars bond all the ten percent of seven hundred
and fifty dollars to get out. But some donkey of
the days just sell themselves. Please give Ashley Cross the
Sweet Sounds and the Hamiltons.
Speaker 15 (57:20):
You oh the day, ye oh the day.
Speaker 1 (57:35):
Ye I know, it's just you feel bad for now.
You don't feel bad for her. She's a repeat offender.
Speaker 17 (57:44):
She could have got a job, or maybe the first
offense put something on her record and she couldn't.
Speaker 16 (57:50):
Get the job.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
That is true too, But she stole from there a lot.
Why wouldn't you switch it up?
Speaker 17 (57:56):
All right, it's gonna sound bad, but no, you ever,
you ever be in so check out and be feeling
like this.
Speaker 16 (58:07):
I shouldn't have to pay for this stuff, Like some
of this stuff is old to me.
Speaker 2 (58:09):
Like maybe she felt like that.
Speaker 1 (58:11):
No, I don't feel like that. And that's what happens
when you still wiggle. When you still wiggle, you know
what I'm saying, You.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
Get good?
Speaker 3 (58:20):
What what?
Speaker 12 (58:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 17 (58:25):
You so lucky you were still in when your face
was two different colors because they wouldn't have recognized you
from me to side.
Speaker 1 (58:29):
That is true. That is very true. If you if
I'm on camera in twenty sixteen, that's not me. Okay,
that's not me. It's not the same person the breakfast club.
Speaker 2 (58:42):
That's about me. For relationship problems. That's about me.
Speaker 12 (58:46):
If you need to beat your coworker's ass about me,
your coworker needs to beat your ass, call it up.
They got the jests, and I'm here to fix your mess.
Speaker 2 (58:54):
Fix your mess.
Speaker 12 (58:55):
It's getting very much messy.
Speaker 3 (58:56):
Let me fix that morning.
Speaker 4 (58:58):
Everybody your stiege envy Jess, hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.
Speaker 2 (59:02):
We are to breakfast club. It's time for just fixed
my mess. Hello. Who's this?
Speaker 14 (59:06):
Anonymous?
Speaker 2 (59:07):
Okay, anonymous, what's your question for? Jess?
Speaker 14 (59:10):
Long story short? I cheated on my fiance and I've
found a GPS tracker in my car recently, and I
don't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (59:18):
Stop cheating.
Speaker 12 (59:19):
That's what you got to stop doing, because that's why
you How long you've been cheating? He's obviously been on
to you for a while.
Speaker 3 (59:25):
How long?
Speaker 14 (59:26):
Yeah, he found out. I told him.
Speaker 8 (59:28):
I came cleanton.
Speaker 14 (59:29):
But we're trying to work on things.
Speaker 12 (59:31):
Trying to work on things. So you recently found the
tracker after admitting that you were a cheater?
Speaker 5 (59:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (59:36):
Correct?
Speaker 12 (59:37):
Okay, So that tells me that he does not believe you.
You know, he still does not trust that you are
done cheating?
Speaker 2 (59:45):
Are you done?
Speaker 12 (59:45):
With cheating, no right, and you are question why you
have a goddamn GPS tracker in your car and you're
not done cheating?
Speaker 2 (59:54):
So why did you don't.
Speaker 10 (59:55):
Know what to do with the relationship?
Speaker 2 (59:56):
Oh you wanted to?
Speaker 12 (59:57):
Oh okay, baby, you gotta get up by if you
want to live your life. And you you know, you
you still feel like you got some some other things
that you're you know, you don't want to cheat on
the person, do you?
Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
You know what I mean? I don't know. Just leave him.
Speaker 12 (01:00:15):
Because you're obviously you're not happy. You're cheating for a reason,
and he's not happy either.
Speaker 8 (01:00:20):
Though I do.
Speaker 12 (01:00:21):
And that's how it works. You always love the person
that you cheat on, you know what I mean? You
love them, but it's something that he's lacking that you
can't get there right, something that he's doing that he's
not doing that you really really wish that he would do.
And although you don't want to leave him, you still
find you know, you're still looking for something else and
(01:00:42):
you're finding it out in the streets. And that's still
are you married or this is your boyfriend.
Speaker 14 (01:00:46):
We're engaged and we bought a house the other eight
years ago.
Speaker 12 (01:00:49):
So you ain't making it down at our girl. I
know you love him, but damn you ain't even married
and you're doing you cheating. I think you should just
I think you should just revoke that whole engagement. Go
and live your life.
Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
You forty six?
Speaker 5 (01:01:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (01:01:08):
Wrong, Okay, okay, she need to be Neo's fifth girlfriendes
It is sounded like she needs she you you into
the polye situation. I think that's what you need. You
need somebody who's going to be comfortable with you doing
these things. I know he already bought the ring, I understand,
but would this be better that he found out after
(01:01:30):
you married him or right now? I think it makes
more sense that he found out now. And I think
that you just need to look in the marriage. Just
be honest with yourself. Marriage is not for you, especially
not a committed marriage. It's not for you right now.
I'm not saying forever, but that ain't something that that's
for you right now, because you know you got to
give him the choice. You know what I mean? Right now,
(01:01:51):
you're not really giving him a choice. You know you
want to lead them on and he marry you and
you know you're still gonna cheat. I love your honesty.
You're like, no, I ain't shooting yet, but you can't
walk down.
Speaker 10 (01:02:03):
You know, I love you, reason like I'm not trying to.
Speaker 14 (01:02:06):
I mean, excuse me. Yeah, I want real advice. So
just like I have to tell my therapist everything, Yeah,
you can't help me if I lie or if I withhold.
Speaker 12 (01:02:18):
Yeah, and that's that's that shut. Apart from everybody else.
People be calling up here, lying to me, leaving out
parts of the story. I applaud your honesty, but you
you cannot get married, and you have to tell him
that you're not ready for marriage.
Speaker 14 (01:02:31):
But I'm the one that wants to get married and
he doesn't. I mean he he's the one that's holding back.
I mean, obviously he gave me a ring, which indicates
he would want to marry me, but he could also
just be leading me on leaden together ten years.
Speaker 12 (01:02:46):
Yep, you can't get married. The advice is still the same.
I know you want to get married, but you're not ready.
I'm telling you this ain't about him no more, it's
about you. You're not ready to get married. You're not
because you're not finished playing the field, you know what
I mean. And that's totally fine. But you gotta do
that single. You know he already got trust issues. You
found a GPS tracker. That is scary. It's scary as hell.
(01:03:08):
But what's also but what's also scary as being engaged
to somebody that keeps cheating. It's it's crazy, and it's
scary knowing that I have to track my woman because
I'm afraid that she ain't gonna never stop cheating. I
know she's doing something and we ain't even make it
down the aisle yet. So yes, while marriage is something
that you want, that's a little further down.
Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
The line for you both.
Speaker 12 (01:03:31):
Thank you, You welcome, babes.
Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Go love mama, Just fix my madam saying and you
want an amble road to stop the sluatwalk, Okay.
Speaker 16 (01:03:39):
You want her to stop.
Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
She wanted to stop.
Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
Because to her, lady needs something to do.
Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
I didn't wanted to stop.
Speaker 12 (01:03:48):
I just felt like it was complete contradictory why she stopped?
Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
Eight hundred five eight five five on just fix My
messes the Breakfast Club, God, Morning Wanning, everybody, It's DJ
n V, Jess, Larry Charlamagne, the God all the Breakfast Club,
Just fix my mess We have shared on a lot right, Cherry, Oh, Sherry,
I'm sorry, take us off bluetooth for.
Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Speaker, Cherry Chevyry Erry, what's question that?
Speaker 10 (01:04:17):
Brooklyn's tune?
Speaker 6 (01:04:18):
Look and beyond a playing time, it's gonna what's good
your morning?
Speaker 12 (01:04:21):
I don't want to class shot a Clyde definitely.
Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
It's five o'clock somewhere. You'll all right, Jack, So I
want you to fix my message?
Speaker 16 (01:04:34):
What's that?
Speaker 5 (01:04:34):
Baby? What you got? All right?
Speaker 7 (01:04:36):
I got this X right now.
Speaker 6 (01:04:37):
We went together for like two years, and then we
were still together physically for two years after we had
broke up. But in those two years we broke up,
he was with another person.
Speaker 10 (01:04:46):
Living with her, engaged to her. I don't care about that.
Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
I trained that meet myself, you feel me, So it
was kind of hard for me to leave that alone
all it.
Speaker 6 (01:04:55):
So whatever we broke up for, you know, trying to
train somebody else from scratches kind of but I attempted.
Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
And when our attempted, they was just terrible, back to back.
Speaker 10 (01:05:04):
And I'm like, I'm not catching all these frogs till
I get a prince.
Speaker 6 (01:05:07):
You feel me like some of them is just told
And so I just want to know what I should
do girl, cause you know that that meets forever man?
Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Or should I let this girl have her fiance.
Speaker 10 (01:05:17):
Like they gonna be married and all that.
Speaker 12 (01:05:20):
I know, I know, but this is the thing because
I think I want to tell you to go ahead
and pursue him, because that should actually train that meet
and all of that.
Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
I get that.
Speaker 12 (01:05:28):
But if he's about to walk down the aisle with
another shorty and he just you know, at this point,
he's just using you for the convenience, he is.
Speaker 6 (01:05:36):
Not using when I'm the one initiating, I hit him up, like,
I know y'all got whatever y'all got going on, but
you're busy today because I need something real quick, you
feel me.
Speaker 10 (01:05:44):
But I'm gonna know, like, well, I don't.
Speaker 12 (01:05:46):
Think you got anything to even worry about because one
shorty get a you know, get away this. She ain't
walking down the aisle, so you're gonna have him, believe
it or not.
Speaker 10 (01:05:55):
You know that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
I don't never want him back.
Speaker 6 (01:05:58):
I want that, And that's why I let him have
this fiance, because you know, let that girl deal with
the headache.
Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
I just feel me.
Speaker 10 (01:06:04):
I just want to know should I keep doing that?
Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Should I be abstine, like, what should I do?
Speaker 13 (01:06:08):
Dad?
Speaker 5 (01:06:08):
No, I don't.
Speaker 12 (01:06:09):
Yes, it's so much meat out here.
Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
I think.
Speaker 12 (01:06:13):
You know, you train one dog, you can train another
one is.
Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Yes, it is, and when I tried it it was horrible. Yeah,
let her have that.
Speaker 12 (01:06:22):
Uh, that's her headache now. And I think, like I said,
you you're done. All you want is to meet.
Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
That's fine.
Speaker 12 (01:06:29):
Some things just run its course. You need to leave
him alone, let him be married, let.
Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Him figure it out.
Speaker 12 (01:06:33):
That ain't for him because obviously if he's still willingly
cheating on his fiance, he ain't he walked on out yet,
then that's that's something that he gonna keep doing. You
ain't even got to be a casualty of that. I
know you initiating and all that, But would you want
your man, your your fiance to do the same thing
to you?
Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
I don't exactly.
Speaker 12 (01:06:51):
And what's going to come a time where somebody's gonna
put a ring on your finger, miss ma'am, because if
you training meet and all that.
Speaker 8 (01:06:56):
Yes, I believe God again, jets, I think he can't
hear you.
Speaker 4 (01:07:00):
So I want you to lead at along just where
you think she's from, I say, Brooklyn, She definitely from
New York.
Speaker 12 (01:07:05):
I don't even know that the barrels or whatever, but
she definitely from New York.
Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
I smelled Brooklyn, but I'm sorry I smelled Brooklyn, but
I think this is the Bronx. Yeah, yeah, smell Brooklyn.
Speaker 12 (01:07:22):
They gotta smell good luck and training that D the
meat what you call it, that's right, says.
Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
You got to stop repeating things just because you hear people.
Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Saying I just like it sound. I said, you got
said good luck with trading the D. She ain't never
say she trained the di. She said, I trained that meat.
Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
But you ain't hear you in the background that.
Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
I did not say that. You did you want to
be with the girl? I saved you. Goodbye, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
Sherry Druggish, Oh my gosh, all right, just the Breakfast
Local Morning, the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Mourning.
Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
Everybody is dj NV just hilarious, Charlamagne the God. We
are the Breakfast Club. Now if you're just joining us
during get it off your chest. A gentleman called in
and said he was having a problem with his relationship
and this was bothering him.
Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
So let's listen.
Speaker 8 (01:08:17):
First thing, I just want to get this on a
check I can't say that to my girl, so I'm gonna.
Speaker 10 (01:08:21):
Just say it to y'all.
Speaker 8 (01:08:22):
I hate my girl. Dogs, Okay, I don't know how
okay to ah the dog people out there.
Speaker 12 (01:08:28):
I don't know how y'all deal with.
Speaker 8 (01:08:30):
Dogs running all around y'all house and doget everywhere. But
just about to make me say, hey, I can't do
it no more. I had a dream about the dolls
last night.
Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
Did you and your wife have a conversation? Did you
tell her how you feel?
Speaker 10 (01:08:45):
Yeah, we had one a.
Speaker 8 (01:08:46):
Few months ago, and that now do a bigger argument.
Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
So I ain't trying to go there no more.
Speaker 4 (01:08:51):
So we're asking eight hundred five eight five one five one,
what's your relationship?
Speaker 5 (01:08:55):
Pet? Peeve?
Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Let's start with you, Jess.
Speaker 12 (01:08:58):
All right, when you don't have no fault in your
mother's wall, see you involved in your business, because then
it leaks over into our business. When you want to
take you on a date, but ask you where you
want to go, excuse me, if you want to take
me on a date, plan the date.
Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
I don't like a nigga.
Speaker 12 (01:09:14):
That'd be like like, plan the date, learn me you
know what I like? If you don't like the East
steak We are you gonna take me? Not out big,
but where are you gonna take me? You know what
I'm saying, I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
Well, he can't.
Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
Like couples.
Speaker 4 (01:09:37):
Talk about your man can fix some other problem, like
they can't if they take with their mom, they can't
fix that.
Speaker 13 (01:09:42):
No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
And sometimes if I take you to a restaurant, then
you'll be like, why we go to this restaurant? Why
do we not go to restaurant? So what are you
feeling for today? Baby?
Speaker 5 (01:09:51):
No?
Speaker 12 (01:09:51):
No, no, no, it's a date. It's all in the place.
Take the initiative to be like, you know what, I'm
gonna take her here?
Speaker 5 (01:09:57):
You know.
Speaker 12 (01:09:57):
And the reason why I say, you know, no out
bext I'm not talking about like because the price of
it and you know the tear that it's on. I'm
talking about because it has steak in the name, just
because it got steak in the name.
Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Don't don't do that out back steakhouse.
Speaker 5 (01:10:09):
Don't do that.
Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
You are hard to please though.
Speaker 5 (01:10:13):
You don't like nothing.
Speaker 12 (01:10:15):
I mean, you don't eat nothing, so it's kind of
hard to go anywhere and enjoy myself. Okay, but no, no,
it's about the dad like it starts with the day.
If your dad not already like not in your life,
that that push you close to your mother. Then your
mother feel like she's dating you, so she got to
be in your relationships.
Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
I ain't with none of it.
Speaker 12 (01:10:35):
So but no, no, I'm not talking about Chris, not
talking about you, baby.
Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (01:10:40):
People?
Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Relationship? Got people? This is I mean, I don't have
these problems now, Okay, Well mine is leeless.
Speaker 4 (01:10:51):
My wife is always late. I'm talking to you, gain
like you said about Chris, I'm talking to you. My
wife is always late, okay, to the point where I
have to lie about the time. So if you have
a party at nine, I gotta tell the parties at
eight and we still go get that nine.
Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Thirty ten o'clock.
Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
It is what it is.
Speaker 4 (01:11:08):
But the problem, the problem I have is she'd be late,
and then when I'm downstairs watching the TV, wait want
you like, let's go to Scoll, Let's go scol Let's.
Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Go now wait on you? Now we'aiting on you. I
hate that. So you always on time? Yeah, I'm always
on time.
Speaker 12 (01:11:20):
So you're not black?
Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
What's your.
Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
Not answering the phone?
Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
You know, my wife and I have different phone habits,
Like my phone is usually on me or near me,
so I'm quick to answer if I want to answer
for the person. But she doesn't literally walking around with
her phone on her. But my thing is, that's cool.
When everybody is home, like when I'm home and all
the kids home, none of us need to really be
near our phones because even the parents know the house
phone and stuff like that. But when everybody isn't home,
keep your phone on you because you never know what
(01:11:46):
I'm calling and why I'm calling. Keep your phone on you,
So not answering the phone. That's my my pet peek.
All right, well, let's go to the phone lines.
Speaker 4 (01:11:52):
Hello, who's this, Yes, sir, good morning from Andy.
Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
What's up?
Speaker 8 (01:11:58):
Brother?
Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
What's your pet? Peeve? In a relationship, it's two.
Speaker 5 (01:12:00):
Of them, man.
Speaker 9 (01:12:01):
One of them is a woman that doesn't have a relationship.
You sound like corny for the relationship, God, And the
second one don't sound kind of dang And I can't
say the woman that don't work out, she gotta be active.
Speaker 12 (01:12:11):
Okay, Well you don't sound just just for the record,
you don't sound corny wanting a woman that has a
relationship with God.
Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
That's not corny, that's a good that's a good one.
Speaker 9 (01:12:20):
But that sounds cliche though. It sounds cliche to say,
but it's so unfairtive that you have a relationship. But
just as important, I need her active because I can't
be looking halfway deeply A big body.
Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
You don't want, no big bats, no big bag.
Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
I think, God, what does what does she see? That's
what she need to be praying to God to lose
that weight. Yeah, you don't believe in God?
Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
Hello, who's this maya maya? Good morning? What's a pet
peeve in a relationship for you?
Speaker 7 (01:12:48):
I've been with my husband for ten years today, and
he's flobbers and snores riverd ooh. And I'm a light sleeper,
like I can hear a pin drop like little. He
holds me up from some time. But he comes to
bed like two fiir o'clock in the morning most of
the time because he's not playing the game. But once
he comes to bed, it's like I can't, I can't
(01:13:10):
go back to sleep.
Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
Yea, what the hell?
Speaker 5 (01:13:12):
Why the hell?
Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
Either one of y'all ain't got no jobs. Y'all got
to get up there in the morning. Why he get
to go to bed at three o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
What's up, baby?
Speaker 7 (01:13:19):
We do. We worked out with the schedules because our
kids aren't in daycare.
Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
Okay, so what's got you?
Speaker 5 (01:13:27):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
I feel bad, you know, because you know, snarts a
lot of times. You can't fix that. That's like, yeah,
sometimes medical problematical problem. He don't do that on purpose.
Speaker 7 (01:13:36):
Man, Listen, I ain't never seen nobody snoring laying on
a belly like this. This is a great dang.
Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
You don't nudge him, you know, push him there so
he wake up a little bit.
Speaker 7 (01:13:44):
I do all night. I'm kicking.
Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
I'm hicking.
Speaker 13 (01:13:47):
I'm like.
Speaker 12 (01:13:50):
And she says, slop material probably stank billows price.
Speaker 9 (01:13:54):
Yay.
Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
Yeah, won't you get something like an air plugs or something?
Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
Word and we got fodcast?
Speaker 7 (01:14:00):
Go ahead, All five of them kids blobber. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
Yeah, you gotta leave that family.
Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Baby.
Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
It's like, no, no, no, I'm joking you the better
for worse though you said it.
Speaker 5 (01:14:12):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (01:14:13):
I'm Floyd eight hundred five eight five one oh five one.
We're asking what's a pet peeve in your relationship? Let's
discuss it's the breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
Good morning, morning everybody. It's DJ nv Jess Hilarious, CHARLAMAGNEA
Gud We are the Breakfast Club. Now you got a
positive note?
Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
I do, but I want to tell people. First of all, man,
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Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
Emotion can be the enemy.
Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
If you give it to your emotion, you sometimes lose
yourself when anger rises. Think of the consequences and never
make a permanent decision based on a temporary emotion.
Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
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