Erika Alexander Interview and More

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Good morning angela Ye, good money, Damny Charlomagne. The guy
piece to the planet is Thursday. We survived that fake
nor East to yesterday. It was bad for it wasn't

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freaking over four thousand flights were canceled yesterday, right, Yeah,
but what was the weather really like though? I Mean,
we talk about all the things that happened four dolland flights,
cancer and all that, but we'll the weather really well.
I camera guy from Revolt make it in this morning
because I don't. And it's still stone down out on
Long Island. And yeah, yes we gotta we gotta foot
in a half by me. So it was it was
the half of snow. Why was that? I didn't get

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that at all? You know how I gauged that. I
gauged that about how easy it is to get out
of the driveway in the morning, and it was very
easy breeze. Well, I got a plow company, but not
a plow company had to come three times yesterday. It
was that much snow. Yeah, it was a lot of snow.
It was. It wasn't good for some people. It was
faked by me, very and you live about what ten
minutes from me, fifteen minutes maybe about ten minutes from me. Yeah, yeah,

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very light that we had a lot of snow. And
I know in Long Island they're saying it's still stoning now.
So a lot of people got a lot of snow.
But that's supposed to know. It's actually supposed to know
somewhere this morning, this morning in the Long Island only
though right, oh, I don't know. It just said more
snow lightly the Long Island yet, but I know people
for people traveling, it was a nightmare yesterday. But it's over,

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and I'm happy it's over, damn it. Because I was
tired that I'm not gonna lie. I was tired of
watching kitty movies and playing Monopoly. I must have played
Monopoly nine times yesterday. I had three um Talent shows
in my house and I watched Sung twice. Well, that's
actually the best part of it. I mean the fact
that when you're snowed and everybody, for whatever reason, you
just feel so closer. I don't know what it is.
Everybody just in the house around each other, keeping each

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other warm, I guess. But the only thing I don't
like is to snacking. Man, because my wife and they
get to like, they made cinnamon rolls yesterday. At cinnamon rolls? Yeah,
they Why do you look at cinnamon rolls? I thought
I made chocolate chip cookies and soft ones that. Man,
I've got time for all that. Man, And then they
just snacking all day long. And your ship, so you

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get caught up in the have it because you're just
in the house and there's nothing else to do. Can
you read, watch a little TV, eat some snacks like man,
f that interestingly enough, my favorite thing to do when
it's snowing is to actually go out. So we went
out to eat. Because you can walk places in Brooklyn.
Stuff that's open. It's a great time to go and
like be social and there were a lot of people
in the restaurant. No. I mean when it's snow, I

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love to take the kids out of the yard and
we just have fun place, you know, snowball fights, build
a snow man, snow angels, do all loa corny stuff
that the kids love. And I have a good time
doing it. It's just when we get inside, I'm tired.
Like I didn't see him Song at least twenty five times.
Song is actually a great movie. It's great, but when
you see it that many times, you're tired of it.
I know what's going to happen the next part. I
want to know how much May know how much money

(03:21):
Mayo make some song? Because may mayno song million bucks?
It's in sung, and I wonder how much he gets
paid off. I feel sorry for to do this, something
like he reminds me a lot of club promoters. I know,
which the guy that had Yeah, you know, he's been
trying to throw all these parties for years and none
of them will pop off, right, and then he finally
get one and he thinks he made it. Yeah in
a movie, though it's a great movie. All right, Well,

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let's get the show cracking. Erica Alexander will be joining us.
Who this means a lot because on Thursday Nights, I
was raised Jehovah's witnessed. We used to have meeting on
Thursday nights, so I would have to put the VHS
tape in around six thirty seven o'clock before we would
leave for the Kingdom Hall, just so I could catch
Martin and Living Single on Fox. Right, all right? But
she also played Pam from the Cosby Show, Remembered but

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Preparing from the Cosby So Maxine Shaw from and Living Single,
Maxine Shaw, attorney at law. That's right, So Alexander, that's
gonna be a throwback today. So we'll kick it with her.
See what she's been up to in all that, and
let's get the show cracking front page news. What we're
talking about, Man, this is hard to watch our a
man that was unarmed in his own backyard killed by
the police. I mean, I was. It was actually just

(04:26):
video of the audio. You can hear them telling him
to show me your hand, show me your hands, and
then you hear the gunshots. I'm not gonna play it
this morning, but I'm telling you there's video that they
released of that very sad and it's very, very very difficult.
He had what two kids. Yeah, we'll get into that
in front in this all right, we'll talk about it.
Keep a lock this to Breakfast club. Good morning, and
everybody is DJ Envy Angela, Ye, Charlomagne the guy we

(04:48):
all the Breakfast club. Let's get two front page news.
Let's talk about this unknowned black man shot and killed. Yes,
Sacramento police did release this video. It shows the moments
that an unarmed man who was suspected of breaking three
car windows was killed by the police. He was in
his own backyard. Two cups actually killed him. Now, when
you hear the nine one one call and then you

(05:08):
hear the police responding. From the video that they did release,
you can hear them yelling at him to put his
hands up, and then you hear a lot of gunshots
being fired, about twenty bullets. Now, his grandmother, Sequita Thompson,
told the Sacramento b he was at the wrong place,
at the wrong time, in his own backyard. Come on, now,
they didn't have to do that. He did have two children.

(05:30):
Say yeah, RP, it was Stephen Stephen Stephan Clark. I
think step step Clark murdered in his own backyard free
years old. Now, bodycam videos do show the cups running
through the neighborhood ordering him to stop and show his
hands as they close in on him in the backyard,
and then one of them yells out, show me your hands. Gun.
And then about four seconds later, I guess he had
a cell phone on him, and they thought the cell phone,

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I guess, was a gun. Show me your hands, gun, gun, gun.
And then that's when you hear the bullets, the twenty
bullets in the span of two seconds being fired. Just
like if you're a cop and you don't know the
difference between a cell phone and the gun, maybe you
don't need to be a cop man. And like they
didn't give them no time at all, from the time
they said put your hands up, from the time they
started firing. The sad part. I mean, it was pitch

(06:12):
black outside, but there's a certain protocol I thought, and
maybe it was it was it was pitch black outside,
but I thought that it's supposed to fire two or
three times and then assess the situation. They fired twenty times.
There was no other bullets coming back at them. Yeah,
there was no bullets coming back at them. They just
bla bla bla blah blah blah about like I'm kind
of concerned and scared about protocol. And then they cut
the mics off when they were talking, you know, basically

(06:34):
said you know, hey, mute it, basically, and they turned
their mics off because they messed up at that point.
Exam they know they messed up that point. They wanted
to turn the recording. Also, none of that can be
held against them in the future. Absolutely, I think some
people should not be allowed to make mistakes, man like
cops surgeons. If it's a matter of life and death,
you have to measure twice and cut ones. And I
understand cops have a very very, very very tough job,

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but it's very tough just to be a black man
in America as well. Okay, because I'm following protocol. You
tell me throw my hands up, I throw my hands up.
I got my hand, my phone in my hand, and
you've ben taking my phone for a gun, and didn't
you shoot me? Yeah, what do you want to do?
I gotta I gotta throw my phone on the ground
now too. I gotta announce I got a phone. Do
you have to do that? Dude? Should should is that
proper protocol for black men in America shouldn't have to

(07:15):
do that. But I mean, see it seems we do
because they mistake things that we have in our hands
for guns. So should I say, hey, I have a phone,
Oh hey I have my wallet, trying to say something
like that, just to make sure it's just super sad,
because even even there is no even man, there is
no even And like I said, the fact that they
shot this man twenty times or shot twenty rounds, he

(07:35):
didn't shoot back, and they just kept shooting. It has
to be protocol, man. And and hopefully with these cameras
they'll be convicted. No, no, if they can just press mute. Now,
let's talk about this Austin baumber situation. Yes, Mark Anthony Kndit,
he recorded a twenty five minute confession and killed himself
in a final explosion. And we told you about this.
He had been terrorizing with package bombings in Austin for weeks.

(07:57):
He's twenty three years old and not recording. There was
still no motives, so they don't know really the reason
why what they did find in his cell phone was
him describing the components of the seven bombs that he
built and the one that he used to kill himself,
authorities believe, and he detailed the differences among the bombs.
He did not make any references that suggested that he
was involved with terror groups or that the bombings were

(08:19):
hate crimes or anything like that. They still don't understand
why he did what he did. The cops get a
chance to shoot him, or he didn't get close they
got a chance to get close to him to shoot him. Yeah,
I don't care, because that's somebody who deserved to get shot. Yeah.
Well he blew himself up even better. All right, Well,
last front page news. Get it off your chests eight
on drink five eight five one on five one. If
you're upset, you need to vent hit us up right now.

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Maybe he had a bad night, a horrible night, hated
the snow, or maybe you just want to tell him
why you blessed. Eight on drink five eight five one
on five one. Get it off your chest. It's the
breakfast club, God morning, the breakfast club. This is your
time to get it off your chests. Whether you're man
from you on the breakfast you got something on your mind. Hey,

(09:06):
this is Joey. I'm just calling it about what you
guys are talking about earlier about the black guys getting
killed a shot like twenty times by the police, that
like that's nothing new. I just want to know when
are we as a people, as a black people gonna
stand up and when are we gonna fight back? Because
it's like we're protesting violence with peace and it's getting

(09:28):
us nowhere, and then they tell us to give it
to God, a god that they gave us. When are
we going to realize that we are God that they're
trying to, you know, destroy? What do you suggest, right?
I realized, I suggest that we as a black stop
saying if black lives matter, then it's time that black
lives matter. If you know they're not saying black lives matter.

(09:49):
If we're gonna stand up, let's stand up, let's do something.
Let's stop talking about it. Let's stop getting mad that
they're killing us. Of course they're killing us. Let's take
what was rightfully stolen from us. Anyway, the people like,
why are we dow bell to our old stuff? We're
we're we do this, we do this, and then we're
getting killed for it. It doesn't make sense. Have a

(10:11):
good day, my love. Hello, who's this Hey, this is CC.
I'm seven five seven. Hey mama, seven five seven, get
it off your chest. I'm upset about the step On
Parks murder. I want to know when is enough enough?
When when we're going to recognize that we need the
escallation training and our and our police department. Right, I'm

(10:32):
really upset that this hit along over two hundred plus
murders the law enforcement. Yeah, I'm sitting there thinking, man,
I hate when things like this happened because these are
one these are those times why I really don't have
any any bright ideas and so it's just like kind
of frustrating. But I'm sitting there thinking, like, I know
cops have other weapons, Maybe they should reach for that

(10:54):
other weapon first, Like you don't always have to go
right for the gun. The only problem with that is
they'll always say I felt like my life was in
danger and I had to protect myself. That that's that's
what they'll always say. But in this case, it's just
crazy because the man had a cell phone in his hand. Correct,
But we also have behammed nor who murdered the Australian
woman um and he he got charged with murderer. He

(11:14):
got charged with your murder. That's why matter only when
why not? True? Bird is born? Black cop killed off?
He was black? Right? The guy he was black in
the I mean a woman who was Australian heat the open.
He got charged with full fledged murder. I wouldn't the
hell do you see cops get charged with murder? Right? What? What? No?
It was less than nothing, no coverage on that at all.

(11:36):
It's just you know, it's like like it was supposed
to be from he didn't he did wrong. He was
supposed to he supposed to get charged for that. So
now the expect for these officers now just to get
off as usual. It's like a band aid, keep working
it off. And they scared of us because we black,
were scared of him because they cops. Oh, it's gonna
be a constant cycle of blood and murder until something,

(12:00):
something breaks. Get it off your chests. Eight hundred five
eight five one oh five one. If your upset, you
need to vent hit us up now. It's the breakfast club.
God morning, the breakfast club. Get pick up the mother
mother phone and din, this is your time to get
it off your chest. Nother you're mad, you want to
hear from you on the breakfast club, so you better

(12:20):
have the same energy. Hello, who's this? All right? This
is currently from book time Foria. Ain't come morning, mom,
gonna get it off your chests? Oh my god, you
guys are so awesome. It's all positive vibes writing every
single morning night run and I listened to you guys,
so you know you came the company and I appreciate it.
I can hear you running right now, but I like

(12:41):
this kind of dedication earlier. Thank you, mama. Oh you
got that a good day? All right? She's going how
hard it is to talk people while you running? I
appreciate that. I respect that. Hello, who's this thick chalk
with the toad sucker? How y'all feeling? Yeah? Sear hurt?
Charlomagne talk about aliens the other day, So I'm gonna
do somebody aliens with a little different voice and do

(13:02):
it better than it is ready. Okay, hey yo, this
is crazy called the crackheads. Yo, and alien broke into
my crack house the other day and took my cracks
or I shot the mother effort before he got back
in the space ship. I don't know. I love I
love our listeners. Listeners are just authentically themselves. Good, bad, stupid,

(13:24):
don't even matter. I just don't want to appreciate every
single one of you. Hello, who's this to look wondered? Hey,
what's up? And get it off your chess this one
shout out y'all the Reckless Club being big fans like
the beginning, and I want to project some positivity. Thank
God for blessing us all this day, for waking us up,
thank God for a family and kind of drop sixteen

(13:44):
right quick? No, man, you see you so positive? So
the whole world. Nothing in this world ca homie back
at times, life back so coldly facts at times like
the hardest frozen overdosing to ignore emotion. Preas are gonna
clow with yo yo ya ain't have my tea at man,
I ain't have my green tea yet, you know what
I'm saying. I ain't had no breakfast, you know. But

(14:06):
black men still getting shot and killed out here, because
if cops think that they got guns when they got
cell phone at this yet, why does anybody think they
could wrap I don't know, because for twenty thirty years
that was the only way out of the hood. But
it's a lot of different ways to get out of
the hood now, man, you don't have to just wrap man,
please stop, all right, already, get it off your chests.
Ain't drew five eight five, one oh five one if

(14:27):
you need to venty. We got rumors on the way. Yes,
we are gonna be talking about Amber Row. She's not
too happy about people judging her son. We'll tell you
what he got excited about in her going off. All right,
we'll get into that when we come back. It's the
Breakfast Club. God morning, the Breakfast Club. It's time she's

(14:47):
filling the tea. This is the rumor report with Angela
Ye on the Breakfast Club. And before we get into that,
we should pat ourselves on the back because Michael Blackton
and George Raine have gotten back to together. They did. Yeah,
she actually sent me a little thank you mess. She posted,
I agreed to dinner at my favorite restaurant and ten
thousand dollars cash app and said I gotta all you

(15:09):
can eat Buffett and a one hundred dollars Victoria's secret
gift card. We'll see the Breakfast Club with all unorthodox
ways we do make good. Positive things happen here you go. Yeah,
so now they are dating again and she did send
a little thank you boo. But when y'all break up again,
don't blame us for anything. We did our part, all right, now,
tell us Swift sent concert tickets to amber Rose for

(15:30):
her son for Sebastian, and he was super excited. Check
out amber Rose giving those tickets to a baby bash.
Taylor Swift sent that to you. Really, yeah, yeah, she
did open it up. This is going to be solid time.
And guess what what she gave us tickets to go

(15:50):
see her in concert? Really yeah, oh my god, she
shut me a letter. Yes see, thanks Taylor age tailor,
thank you Taylor for this unseasoned chicken. Don't don't give
your kids on seasoned Now. That's so dope, man, he's
a Taylor Swift fan. That's a great thing, right, well,
absolutely great. Apparently people started coming at her son for

(16:13):
being excited about Taylor Swift tickets and I have no idea.
So she went on a ranch. She said, shout out
to all of the hyper masculine men and ignorant, dumbass
women that will call a five year old gay for
liking Taylor Swift. This is why young kids kill themselves,
and this is also why our society is so fed up.
Liking a certain type of music will not make you

(16:33):
pick your sexuality, you dumb f's ps. My son just
got accepted into the most prestigious private school in LA
because he's smart at F and creative as F. Like
his parents, we allow him to be himself. He can
listen to whatever music he likes, he can like whatever
color he wants, and we let him be passionate about
whatever his little heart desires. We don't make our son
lived by society norms. That's why he's so special. And

(16:54):
she goes on to say regardless if he's gay or straight,
when he gets older, he will be around the most amazing,
loving people that will support him no matter what. He
also has more money in his bank account than any
of you trolls could even imagine. Well, I want to
help you with this one amble. But see, I liked
Taylor swift nineteen eighty nine album, and but people think
I'm gay, So I'm not the best person to the
chime in on this. But I can't. I can't say nothing. Yeah,

(17:15):
but I will say, do you raise your kid? Lay?
On social media? This era lives their lives trying to
satisfy other people's demands, and we have learned to live
about other people's points of view because of fear not
being accepted. But f all that, do you raise your
kid the way you want to end the story? Absolutely?
He likes it. We love it. Man. Now Kanye would
never get his kids tickets to see till Us. Now,
that wouldn't happen. All right, Now, let's talk about Braxton

(17:38):
family values. We told you yesterday that Tamar has not
been wanting to promote the show because she doesn't like
the way that Vince is portrayed on there. Well, Trina,
Twana and Tracy Braxton said it's too bad. Don't be
a hypocrite. Check it out. One of the crazy things
is you can't talk about our relationships and think that
it's okay, and then when it's reciprocated, it's supposed to
be off limits. And besides, we're not the ones who

(17:59):
put it a social media about her, you know, truculent
relationship with her. It's strange. Husband. When Trina and I
was going through our divorces, she had a lot to say,
she had she made a lot of pinions. As a
matter of fact, when Trina was talking about her divorce.
He shouted, I just think that it's almost as if, Okay,
I can do you, but you better not do me. Unfortunately,
I wish some of the stuff was scripted, but this
is real life. She's absolutely right. You cannot say what

(18:24):
you want about people are individuals and doing. When it
comes back to you, you get upset. Absolutely, you just
can't do it all. Right now, Kodak Black wants to
get a ged while he is in prison, so he's
going to progress his education. He requested a tutor to
come visit him, and his legal team also requested he
have access to a computer for his continued studies. So
we'll see if the judge will allow that. They should
allow it. The only problem is that they don't be

(18:45):
respecting those prison certifications when they come home, like when
they get the gds in prison, that they get the
degrees in prison. They don't respect him when they come home.
Right now, he was in solitary confinement, but he's out
of there now. He had been sentenced to thirty days
is in solitary after he went against the rules and
made a three way call, but he is out now.
I'm there. The whole point of jail should be correctional

(19:07):
facilities for reil for real. They should let these kids
go get education while they're in there. Let them get
their their physical bodies back together, like, just make them
better people so when they come into society they can contribute.
They also got a one to do it, though they
have to want to do it. I think they will.
He requested it. When when you got the time, you
will do You'll do that. And he's due back in
court on May third for his two remaining charges from

(19:29):
when he got arrested on January eighteen. All right, congratulations
to my guy q Tip from a tribe called Quest.
He did announce that he's going to be starting as
a Miles Davis and Nelson George just play my funny Valentine.
So congratulations to him dropping a clue bomb for q Tip. Dammit,
I've just seen que Tip of a long time, his
forehead big enough to play Miles Davis. They'll be fine.

(19:49):
I actually went to dinner with que Tip last week.
We've been talking about doing something. Really, how's he doing. Oh,
he's doing great. A lot of things happening. But yes,
he's gonna come up to the breakfast clubs. So I
guess he'll be come up here to announce that, amongst
other things that he's working on. All right, I'm Angela
Yee and that is your rumor report, all right. Now,
when we come back, Erica Alexander will be in the

(20:10):
Maxine Shaw Attorney at Law, paying from the Cosby Show.
If you was to Jehovah witness like me growing up,
and you recorded Thursday Night programming, and you know about
putting that VHS, taping that VC y'all around six thirty
so it records tell about nine, then you understand why
I'm so excited to see Erica Alexander this morning. Damn it.
All right, we'll talk to her when we come back.
Keep a lot just to Breakfast Club. Good morning, get somebody,

(20:33):
get some money, and get somebody morning. Everybody is dj
N V Angela Yee showing me and the guy we
are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in
the building. This is a very special guest. I know,
as Pan, I know what you call her. I call
her Maxine. He called her Maxie. I mean, I know
her real name too, but I'm saying you call the
Maxine from Living Single. Yes, but her real name is

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Erica Alexander. I answered to it all and thank you
so much. It's a pleasure to be here. Yes, you
don't understand what I had to go through on Thurday.
Nice to see you. No, that wasn't Jehovah Witness growing up,
so we used to go to the Kingdom Hall on
Thursday night over the days of VHS tape, so I
had to press record at like six o'clock, six thirty
and make sure you got to four our tapes or
just record everything. I think you you get a special

(21:21):
medal for that. That's beautiful. You know. It was a
funny thing because it was a different time and now
that everyone has things streaming to them, they don't have
to think about those things. But I never saw living
single until we stopped taping. Really really no, because we worked.
We filmed on Thursday night. That was our filming night.
We did two shows that day. There was no dvday, right, no,

(21:41):
so we'd either wait for them to you know, to
come on. But the truth is we rarely saw ourselves.
You know, it's a good here's the thing we didn't.
You know, the critique is your your audience. Either they
laughed or they didn't, and you sort of had the
good feeling of it, and they would tell you where
you're at. And frankly, for sitcom, you need the audience
to tell you it's a back fourth and they are
the fourth character in a sitcom. How many people teld

(22:03):
you how many women were like I became a lawyer
because of you, you know what, more than I feel
I deserve. I mean, Marilyn Moseby, who's up in Baltimore,
she said it Mary to Blasio and his wife Charlene
mccraige really told him how yeah, how important it was
to them. You know, you meet people and they say hello,
and then they tell you something special like that, and

(22:24):
then you realize that representation matters. And there I was
and I hadn't gone to college. I still haven't, and
I was being a lawyer, but just you know, graduated
high school and kept working because my father passed, and
you know, I just wanted to help my mother, And
here I was helping people go to college and become lawyers.
That's what we need more shows like that on TV.
I know we have Blackish, but the reason I went

(22:45):
to Hampton is because of human like it made me
want to go to college exactly. Yes, I mean, and
you know, and I watched Hillman and Whitley and all
of them wanted to go to college and I was
in there, but you know what, things don't always work
out that way, and I was glad that I could
help my family. There you go. And what happened though,
because around that time black characters on prime time was
so positive. Maxine was a lawyer, Different World had the

(23:06):
kids college shows, a dooct in, a lawyer. But then
it was just like, oh, let's flip the switch and
show some negative representation. What happened. I don't know exactly
what happened. I think racism happens. There's an institutional structured
racism and bias and prejudice in people's minds. And I
think even after the huge success of Cosby's show two

(23:28):
seven Different Worlds, Yeah, Will Smith's show, there was no
reason for them to to digress or go and divert
themselves that that but that's exactly what happened. And you
can only say that, you know, it's show business monitored
by real people, and uh that not only did that happen,
they segregated television. In fact, they got rid of mostly

(23:48):
black cast shows from two thousand and two until like
Shanda Rhime starts to show, there was you know, I
want to I don't want to discount Bernie m Bernie
Mac show. And then there was uh, Chris Rocks. Everybody,
yeah Chris, but for the most part, just nothing. And
it was a really hard time. And then suddenly the

(24:09):
bottom dropped out of the market and people who aren't
doing well, we're doing worse and losing their homes. And
that happened to all of us, and it was fortunate.
And then things start to turn. But it needed Seana
Rhymes to do Gray's Anatomy and have power, and then
to bring Carrie Washington and Viola Davis, you know, a
different type of black lead. They said, lose Holmes. Was
it that bad? Like was yeah, yeah, there's no doubt

(24:31):
about it was that bad for me? You know, I
could get better than most well, it was not that
I would work and do guess spots and people would
away often say, you know, we don't see you as much,
and I said, you don't see me as much because
there's very few parts, and the parts that we get
they're not paying as much. They're paying so called top
of show. They got this whole line that they would say, oh,
you can can't get more than top of show. And

(24:53):
if you were the more successful the show was, the
less you would get paid. What has the less it
matters that. Yes, yeah, no, it was unfortunate, and it's
actually still in place. Did you hate reality show at
that time because reality shows were taken everything in one time?
You know, I think I did. I mean not not
because they were just taking the place. I just thought

(25:15):
it was poor representation of what black women were being
able to do. And frankly, if you didn't fit in
that mold, it was nothing you could do. I mean
you sort of watched it, and you kind of I mean, look,
it was like watching a train wreck. And I enjoyed
it in that way because I actually didn't think it
was real at first. Took me a long time to
sort of get it. No, this is real, and yet
it's not real. It's scripted reality. Yeah you remember, yes, yes, fascinating.

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I mean, you know, so it's a whole time and
we go back and we see the you know, you
see the beginning in the fringes of this thing that's
sort of encroaching, and you have no idea it's impact
on the community, what it means for you, what it
means for you, how people see you or perceive you.
But then suddenly you're an auditions and there's the person
that you see right opposite you for the same part,

(26:07):
and you thought, well, are we the same type of person?
They should have the right to go for those parts.
But maybe they really don't know what I do if
I'm in the same room with them, right. I really
believe you when you say that it's systemic though, because
you think about all the positive images we had on television,
the ratings would add, the revenue was coming in. There
was no reason to change it other than black people
was getting small people were being influenced. Like you said,

(26:27):
you wanted to go to college and other people wanted
to be lawyers. That's the only reason. Yes, there's no
other explanation for it. And that just shows you how
deep and dark racism is and it's in our minds.
And then there's a lot of you know, we have
to take some of the blame too. A lot of
those images we weren't force fed. We also you know, wrote,

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and when you got in those rooms, they often would
only support the ones that played to the pathology or
you know, there's the cartoonish version of us. Anything that
was deeper that they maybe say Steve McQueen or somebody
else might uh, pitch was immediately seen as being you
know false. No nobody would ever watch that, and you know,

(27:10):
forced us to do comic books to try to, you know,
do proof of an idea, you know, and go in
at a very low margin and just to try to
talk about something and that would be more than in
our heads. Now you did come in here bearing gifts
for us. I did, I did. I did. Concrete Park
was one of those ideas. At the time. My brother

(27:31):
and my writing partner who was my husband then Tony Perrier,
had an idea called Concrete Park, and we went around
talking about it and we met this studio executive who,
in the middle of our pitch stopped us and said,
stopped it right there. He said, black people don't like
sign fishing because they don't see themselves in the future.
We looked at him, what, I don't tell me what

(27:51):
black people like? I know? He imagine, right, you know,
and and and and he went on told this whole
story about it. But do you know, for whatever reason,
that was his thing. Tony stopped and he said, well,
let me tell you something. For black people, the pass
is painful, the present precarious, but the future is free.
We always create in the future. That's why you have
rock and roll and the blues and jazz. He says,
we're the aliens that you took from across the ocean

(28:13):
to rock your world and make your planets to l
And by the way, there's Samuel Delaney, and there's Octavia Butler.
And the number one star science fiction star in the
world was Will Smith. He clearly didn't know what he
was talking. But that's at the head of a studio
to tell us that two black people who we thought

(28:33):
knew better and hin oh no, no, that little him
that said that, In fact, Jos, we need the suit
called me to do Giles, which is a Buffy spin off. No,
he's he's one of the good guys. He's one of
the Avengers, you know. No, no, no, but who ever
said that? You know, I'm going to dedicate a book
to him one day, And but I'm saying it forced

(28:56):
me to create a new skill set, and I think
that that's good. I mean, and you get tired in
this business, I've been doing this since I was fourteen.
You find different ways to recreate yourself and be able
to have a conversation that's beyond any one character or show.
And you can't do it if you don't have the opportunities,
or more importantly, if their day digitshon't exist. So we

(29:18):
did the comic book again to just show people this
is what will look like, and then we came out
in twenty thirteen. It was one of the best American comics,
or said it was one of the best graphic novels
in America. And we're still out there doing it. And
now the world has changed, all right, we have more
with Erica Alexander when we come back. You might know
her from Pam as the Cosby Show or from a
Living Single. To keep it locked, this the breakfast Clog

(29:39):
Morning the Breakfast Club pointed, everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee,
Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We have
Erica Alexander in the building, of course, actress. She played
Pam and the Cosby Show. She was also in the
Living Single. Now, how did you get on the Cosby Show?
That would have been just in between ninth and tenth grade,

(30:00):
and just after twelfth grade, I went around the world
with the Royal Shakespeare Theater and did the movie in Paris,
came back, did a play at the Public Theater with
Joseph Papp and Gloria Foster was his last play before
he passed. And Camille Cosby saw me in that play
and kept the story goes, kept telling Bill Cosby to

(30:22):
come see not only Gloria Foster. And she was the
woman in the matrix who says, have a cookie, you'll
feel writer's reign. Blaight skinned woman. She said, you have
to see Gloria and this little girl. And I was
a girl she was talking about. I had already auditioned
several times for the Cosby show, you should know that,
and never got a role because you know, I was
writing that great age group where I could have been

(30:43):
Malcolm's girlfriend or tempest girlfriend or a Lisa Pooney's friend.
But never they had they found a place. They kept saying, oh,
we'll find a place for you. And by the way,
back in the day, that was the only game in town.
You know, there was no other place for a young
person to be or audition, so yeah, or anybody black really,
but young black person. There were really no shows. Maybe

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rose Anne had a few things that going on. But
I got a call could you be at his house?
And two hours and I showed up. The casting director
was there and he told me to created a role
for me. It was called cousin Pam. I remember when
you first got on Collyby show back in the day.
It was like you bought that hip hop badge to
the show, and I was wondering, was that planned? Oh
was that just you? Because at the time, hip hop

(31:25):
was on the ride, so I didn't know if Kylie
was trying to inject some hip hop flavors. He might have,
but I think what happened. It's funny that they would
choose me from Arizona to be hip hop and I think,
you know, they just saw the dark skin, and you know,
you say, oh that personal give us the other side
of the tracks. The show was getting a lot of
criticism for being unrelatable, and so I think he wanted
to bring in another character who wasn't a high middle

(31:48):
class age kid, who would show you know what it
was like to live on the other side. He chose me.
I'm kind of a very tame version of that there
was no way on the show you coming and be
doing all that, and that wasn't his vibe. So but
it seemed natural though, like it seemed to edgy for Cosby,
like it was like, but I saw it. I was like, oh, yeah,
you want to us. I'm glad to say that unnatural.

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But the I was playing the part what was your
best friend on the show? Yeah, that was lean on me,
Charmaine Karamelina White. We and you know what, and think, God,
they brought them not like that al pain because really
they gave I don't really know if the writers knew
what to do with cousin Pam, and I think it
was kind of sort of given to them, like okay,
now go And so when they gave me a posse

(32:31):
to be with, it gave me a storyline because I
sort of just would float around and be, hey, cousin Claire,
how are you doing? Can I set the table? You know?
Come on? Not real? So they gave me them and
then we had something to do with everything going around
with Cosby. Did you see any of that because I
was just thinking about when we were talking, we were
talking about black issh in high school. Cosby even as
a father now, I do a lot of the stuff

(32:53):
Cosby does back then, Like I remember having my daughter
on my leg and I'm shaking her back and forth
because I remember that from the show, even even the
acting stuff that he did. Dad. I make my kids
do acting things because he kind of raised me as
a second dad. And maybe I deserve birts at all that. Yes,
that's true. So did you see any of that? Nothing
wrong with doing anything his character did his characteriscause that's true. Um, yes,

(33:20):
for me, it would have been James Evans of Good
Times because he was most like my father was hard.
He would you you know, I was afraid of my father,
that type of thing. Phil Cosby was like the best
version of what a black black dad could be. He
would talk to you, You would actually say what was
going through your mind. And I don't let a lot
of growing up, a lot of children didn't get talked to.
They weren't seeing his individuals at autonomy. So he gave

(33:45):
people autonomy psychologically. That was freeing for the black community
to sort of say, there's a different way to relate
to children. And yes, I saw that and I was
very much influenced by it. Did you see this sinister energy.
Even unfortunately I see, you know, he wasn't who all
thought he was. And it was disappointing. And it's not
only dreadful, it's painful. I think I saw things that

(34:07):
I thought were cruel at the time, But I had
also been raised in a cruel world, you know, I
really had been, So you could you kind of talk
yourself into things to say with it, you know, that's
how adults are, you know. And at the time I
was nineteen playing fifteen. You kind of take it. You
kind of know in your heart that that's much more
than you you would want to see. No, thank god,

(34:30):
you know. And I don't have a me too moment.
Both my mother and my sister were raped in life,
so I take it very seriously allegations like that, but
not me. Can you give us an example of what
you considered cruel from well, you know, I think when
you're the biggest star in the world and in the world,
let's be clear, and he's not just creating television, he's

(34:51):
creating musty TV. After a while, things like a thing,
you get heady, it goes to your head. You forget yourself.
And I said, you forget yourself, You forget that you have.
You're representing not only you know the show when that,
but you're representing you know, who people think you are. Right,
So when you go in, I don't expect the person
to be goody goody, but you do expect them to

(35:12):
have some you know, decorum and some you know class
about things, and sometimes it's just violating. You go, I
just didn't expect that, and like I said, it probably
would have been no more than what other people might
have seen, you know, going to church. And then you know,
the woman that you admire in church, you know, gets
nasty and you go, what is that? But people, the

(35:33):
way you desist people, the way you you know what
I mean is it's it's it's it's like that. We'll
always say the true test of a person's characters how
they treat people who can't do nothing for them. Right there,
you go, there's power, you know. Responsibility to power is
how you treat people when no one's looking, when it's
in the dark. And it's not that you know again,
I think people who are in the limelight have a

(35:54):
special burden. And often people will give you pass and
say they can't always be you know, you have you
have the right to be human. You don't have to
be a role model. No, and you want more than that.
You don't have to sit there and make everybody feel good.
You can sit there and just say I just want
to do you mind, thank you, and be by yourself.
It's hard to get that space, and sometimes you get
a little testy. That's important, but then again, you know

(36:18):
it's part of the burden of what you have and
no one can really understand it. That's not going through
whether the great power comes great responsibility. Thank you love.
I was trying to get that, but my mind, Yeah,
there you go. And I think that's where you look
at Dave Chappelle and people who had that you know
thing happened and to sort of saying, hey, look I
gotta go away. That's what they're dealing with. Now. Both

(36:40):
of your parents were orphans. How did they meet? Uh, well,
you know as orphans do in church. Um, you know,
they're both their godfather or I should say like their
godfather was the evangelist in town. He was the bishop.
His name is Bishop WC. Griffin and he became the
bishop of that north west half of America. Bishop Blade

(37:00):
in La took over for him. I mean in a way,
I'm from Church Royalty. If you look at it that way,
I mean he was a really heavy dude. But then
they were just in the dust bowl of New Mexico,
and it was a very Southern Gothic existence. My mother
and my grandmother was a witch. She died in witchcraft.
My father started to preach and was ordained since he

(37:23):
was six years of age. They said he was a
special child that he literally would set on a porch
and people would come up, and before he could even walk,
he would stand up du scripture and then go back
to plane. My father, who was prone to exaggeration and
as to say straight up lying, would say some of
these stories. But my mother, who is not said no
Erica was very true. And they went around in a

(37:44):
car and they would go on reservations or whatever they
would call living people's garages, and he was a healer.
They would bring him in and what would happen. There
would be a few people in the audience. At first
they would pitch a ten, and then he would pray
do something, and then everybody would heal. Everybody would hear
about a person who was healed, who they knew their
whole life had some ailment or sickness. And then the

(38:06):
next night there would be tons of people overflowing Indian, Mexican, white,
black to see this young healer. That was my dad
and that's your dad. Right. Nobody could heal him. You know,
it's funny. He died. They gave him a church in
East New York. Um and uh he before he died,

(38:28):
I made some peace with him because he wasn't the
kindest person. And he said he wished that um, that
God had healed him. And he always wondered why sorry,
and I wondered too. All right, well we have more
with Erica Alexander when we come back. Don't move. It's
the breakfast club. Good morning morning. Everybody is dj N

(38:51):
v Angela Ye, Charlomagne the God. We are the breakfast Club.
We have Erica Alexander in the building. You might know
her from living single or paying from the co as
we show. Charlemagne, you said so much that I wanted
to distrut you aunt being a witch. Yeah, my my
my grandmother, his mother was a witch. Well she would

(39:12):
go listen. She had a restaurant. You know, Black people
would do so many things catering and all that. So
back in the day, you really didn't have a life job.
He would do things. And she had a um, a
little cafe, you know, a hole in the wall, and
she would put dust over the door so when people
came in, the bell would ring and dust would fall. Yes,

(39:34):
they called a goof for dust. Well, right across the
street was her competitor, and they would have goof for
us too. So she would go back and forth to
down deep south South like you know where you're from,
you know, and go get stronger and stronger um for us. Well,
one time she came back and she by the way,
she would just leave my father, so he would just
be on the streets. One time she came back and

(39:56):
Mexican family took him in and he didn't even remember English,
and they they begged her to let him stay, stay please,
Robert Day called him Roberto, and she took him um.
But she came back and they said she was all
twisted up with her head in between her legs, barking
like a dog. And they said that the women in

(40:18):
the church went to go get my eventual godfather, which
was William Griffith, and he came saw it. He left
three days he went and uh they fast and they pray,
and then they come back and then they laid hands
on her and they got her through it. And this
is a story now, and I'm just telling me what
they gotta do it. And when he came, she came
out of it. He says, daughter, the Lord told me

(40:39):
to tell you that if you go back, you'll you'll
you'll come back. You'll come back in a box. No, no, rev,
I promise, I gave this up. I'm not gonna get
she said. I'm just telling you what the Lord told
you told me to tell you. And my father's last
memory of his mother is him is her getting in
a car, a red Cadillac because her boyfriend's name was Red.
He would just drive through and take her away. And

(41:00):
I'm begging her, please, Mom, don't go, don't go. Don't worry, Robert.
I'll be back in Two weeks later, they brought her
home in a box. Damn it. Have you ever wanted
to put a little dust on somebody, like when when
friends stole the idea for living single? Did you want
to throw any dust on that? Yeah, that would be nice.
I wish I had some dust. I put a lot
of dust on people. Yes, you know, put a little
over the White House door. Uh, you know, I don't know.

(41:23):
You know everybody. By the way, when he made them
comments about Haiti being a whole country, I was like,
somebody gonna catch him. I heard you see that. Somebody
gonna get there. Tell you're right. I didn't think about it,
didn't get close to him yet. That's all already happening. Yeah, yeah, right,
that's that's in the coming. He made that happen. They
just probably you know speed, you know, forcing it through

(41:46):
like fewl What do you think about all these reboots
they're doing just to shift gears for a second of
television shows? Are you into it? Are you thinking, Okay,
I'd love to see Martin or The Fresh Prince or
Living Single or anything like that reboots. Well, I don't know, Angela. Listen,
here's what I think. I think it's great. People are
nostalgic for, you know, things in the past. Maybe for

(42:06):
a good reason it happens. But for me, I always
try to be honest and said, if my film and
television career had been a lot better, I might not
have any problem to being my toe back into that
water and going in doing Max and Max character. But
for me, life is so time is so fine that
you have so little time. I think I just want

(42:29):
to see if I can do other things and see,
you know, if I can get people as happy for
me or you know, into a different character or in
a different way. So I mean, that's my goal now.
Never say never. I enjoyed them. And this wouldn't be
because I didn't have a good time, just a matter
of you know, I just I just know that maybe
because my I do come from orphans and my father

(42:49):
did pass that you don't get tomorrow today? Is it?
Is it true to the character of Max and Shaw
wasn't supposed to be a regular. No, I'm supposed to
come in every now and then. She was, and that's
why you she all based saw her. The good news
is that she was the only one who could afford
her own apartment, which I really liked. She was really nice, exactly,
but she ate other people's food so that help offset
it costs. But no, I was supposed to coming every

(43:11):
now and then. And it turned out that they saw
in the pilot that the audience really liked the ensemble,
and I didn't know that, you know, and it would
have mattered to me. I'm used to being an ensemble players,
so if I had coming every now and then, then
that would have been the gig. But it just worked
out that they knew what they had and they wrote
toward that because the show was built around him and

(43:33):
Latifa right exactly. Fatifa and Kim had a deal. I
think they even had the same agent. They had the
same agent, I think as event Lee Bowser, who created
the show, and I think they put it together as
a package. I don't know if Kim Fields did, but
I was like TC and I were the last two
people they added. Born on the same day we met
in a hotel. We had auditioned for it, and I

(43:55):
guess one day or two days after y'all one the
day after they cast us. There we were doing in
the table reading and we were up on our feet.
How do you feel about Friends ripping off Living Single?
And wasn't true that Living Single was supposed to be
named Friends? Yes? Really, Well, they came well, we would
call my Girl when we first my Girls, when we
first did our pilot and the uh it didn't test well,

(44:17):
you know how they test things. So they came down
and we were now filming the actual series and one
of the executives had a whole list of names, three
or four or five of them, and he read them
out and it was living single friends blah blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah. And they chose living
single for us. And then the next year they created friends. Oh,
the same people that had the same people were Warner

(44:37):
Brothers on the ranch lot, and they were on the
big lot. We called the ranch the ghetto lots. We
had nothing on that lot. We actually had no air
conditioning or heat. We had to walk out because we
had our craft. Service table was basically rice with Tabasco
sauce and rich crackers, you know. And you know, I
just come from Cosby Show. I didn't expect them to

(44:59):
have a spread like that. That's what you get when
you're number one in your market and all that. But
I did expect us to have some kind of you know, protein, Yeah,
can we have Yeah, we have a piece of hams.
So no, that's that's so, that's what's happened with Friends. Yeah.
And you know, and at the end of our run,
we were paid being paid a lot less and people
would say, well, you had a smaller market share I said,

(45:20):
compared to what you know, comparatively, yes, but you know,
if you think about how much they made paying us
so little, and how much they made a syndication all
around the world all these years. Uh, get the goddamn
goofy dust could do. Thank you, Get the Gooper ducts.
Get the goop for ducts because Goofy Yeah, got two
point five million dollars to our fifty five thousand dollars

(45:43):
at our our like our, the whole cast, no per
per episode. That sounds like a lot of money, and
it is. Then you know, if you two point five
million per episode for them, no, no for our you know,
like my salary five thousand dollars per week, okay, twenty
six shows, but if you were friends two point five

(46:06):
million dollars per week per week, that's a crazy person.
We did it have anything to do with the network,
the NBC, if they weren't NBC and we were on Fox,
it does I mean, you know Fox that just wasn't
considered a network. Then it got a lot of breaks
to become a network. But also what happened is that
you're again you're seeing the fact that we didn't get
the marketing we didn't get to play. There were a
lot of things that are in place to keep to

(46:28):
hold down and and make you not feel as valuable.
But if you but I'm sure if they looked and
scaled and you know, looked at it and how much
they made versus what they put in, I'm sure we're
on part off, not way beyond what they made. I
can't name one person off Friends, I'm fully aware with
a huge show. Jennifer Aniston was going Friends. I don't

(46:49):
know she was. She was on Friends? What joy lawns
on there? I don't know. All white people look like
the money. Oh, miss Eric Alexander, this has been a pleasure,
so much company. We are looking for people. Yeah, we're
looking for you. And thank you so much for all
that you do, because you have to know, I watch

(47:09):
all your shows. Thank you. I mean no, no, no,
no no. I learned so much and I really am
fascinated about how you get to be young people of
color here and talk to people about things current events
and also be kind of you know, digging and all
that stuff. It's really a sharp you know, to be sharp,
and you have to be on it all the time.

(47:29):
And I'm not earnest I think them. It's more, it's
a beautiful thing. It's not not something that ever happened
while I was growing up. You know that means a lot.
And hopefully that means a lot. Gratulations on your booking,
all the things that are happening with you, and gratulation
on everything. Yeah, hopefully that means lots of kids who
watch too, and they can say, oh, I see a
lot of people always hit this up like, oh, I
want to do something like the Breakfast Club or I

(47:49):
want to do radio. You guys inspire me. Representations, representation
does know. It's more than matters. It's it's changing people's lives.
Thank you, Thank you. I can't wait to see what
you do next. I know you got some fire scripts
you said, Well, thank you. I'm doing the best I can.
I've didn't take my vitamin is Eric Alexander? You all
the Breakfast Club, the Breakfast Club. Everybody is TJ Envy,

(48:16):
Angela Yee, Sharlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Hey,
salute to Erica Alexander for coming through this morning. Man
dropping the rout of arms for Erica Alexander. Back on
that Shaw Attorney at Law. Okay, dope, go back, go back.
My spirit is full. After talking to miss Erica this morning,
that full interview will be up on Breakfast Club you
two page. Somebody just tweeting me and said, how come
to the grip. The best interviews get the shortest airtime.

(48:37):
All interviews get the same in money a time. Yeah,
they all get the same air full interview will be
online later. All right, Well, let's get to the rooms.
Let's find out what artists got robbed at the studio.
It's about this is the rumor report. Angela Yee found
the Breakfast Club. Well, this was unfortunate. Young Berg who's

(49:00):
now hit maker, and A One Bentley from Love and
Hip Hop Hollywood. They were in the studio together. They
were on Instagram Live. I guess A One had Lerica's
phone and he was on her Instagram live. And that's
when you hear some men enter the room screaming put
that camera down. The scene then cuts and when it
comes back, A One is running around the studio seeing

(49:21):
did anybody see the men who ran up with the
guns drawn? Check it out, bro, I don't know, I
don't know. N we aren't you here with a gun? Money?
So who got rob seemed like young Bird, Yeah, Young

(49:45):
Burg and a one, I guess, And that's what they
were showing their jewelry and stuff like that while they're
on live from the studio and that kind of Well,
anybody can get robbed, anybody can't, then they shouldn't be
getting not in the studio. That should be locked down
in a place where they can feel like they can
work and be safe. I didn't Young Burg was still
to the hip hop pin YadA. It was a point
in time when Young Burg with the hip hop Pinyada,
like people were hitting him up and like chains was
falling out money. They was getting a lot often. But

(50:07):
I didn't know he was still doing that. The Young Burg, well,
ay one is planning to sue the studio. He believes
that it was an inside job. So they said an
intern had actually been in the studio. When the intern left,
they propped the door open, and after one minute or
so after the intern left, that's when the men came
in with the gun. So they believed that it was
a setup. What they happened at was city, I'm sure, La, Yeah,
I'm not sure where they were, but yes, so all

(50:30):
of that is online because he asked him He was like,
did he hit you with the gun? Yes? Yeah, all
right XXXTN. Tasian has asked to be let off house arrest,
and the judge has just granted that. That was because
they said the last few months, these would be his
first steps toward complete freedom. He's going to submit to
monthly drug tests and report his travel as well. So

(50:50):
now he wants to be able to work and make
some money. So he wants to a buye by the
same probation terms he was subject to prior to his
most recent charges in the domestic violence case. So now
he's happening with those charges. Did he ever get found guilty?
I think he's still appending. That's why he was on
house to rest, and he still has to go to
court and everything. So we'll see what happens all right now.

(51:11):
When Tory Lanes was up here on the Breakfast Club,
he talked about almost having Nicki Minaj on the album
on the song Shooters. Here's what he said. Yeah, Nicky
was on Shooters. She did an incredible verse and I
was asking her something about like the verse, about changing
something around because of where it placed the hook at
because we were talking over texts and I think like
through the text, it kind of just came off the

(51:31):
wrong way. Um, and I think she just she she
just didn't um, she wasn't really rocking with it, and
she was just like, you know, she didn't take my
verse off the song. All right, Well, now that verse
has surface. I love that record. By the way, Shooters, Yes,
the song Shooters. Here is Nikki's verse. I say, some

(51:54):
murdle got enough to pay for all my bitches, shout
the intro down to all my bitches. I came, man,
I just pulled it off the lot. I ain't talking
bound Bowlder want a shot. I ain't te a rock
like the Pirates and the Fats. Tell me if you

(52:15):
coup and turns his backup, says, you man, it could
have been she should have rapped. We should have been
a harder. I like it. I think she should have rapped.
I mean, the chicken part where she stole off singing
was cool. But I want to hear rap yeah, rapp
That that sounds hard. Just asked for another editional verse maybe,
but I liked it. I don't know. That's just me,
all right, Tina Turner, she has forgiven Ike Turner. Now

(52:36):
we all know that what's love got to do with
its story? When Tina tournament Ike Turner, she was only
sixteen years old, they got married and he was constantly
slapping her. He admits to punching her to the ground
without thinking, but he says he never beat her. Isn't
that beating? Someone said what? He says that he did
slap her and punched her to the ground without thinking,
but he said he never beat her. Well, you can
forgive him, Tina. Okay, we've seen the movie. I was

(52:58):
watching that movie this weekend. I watched it every time.
One of my favorite movie, absolutely, and and And the
older you get and you see what I was doing
the team and your cringe even more. So, you know,
maybe you want to forgive him. We don't got to forgive. Well,
she said, as an old person, I had forgiven him,
but I would not work with him. He has asked
for one more tour with me, and I said absolutely not.
Wait a minute, I'm still alive. Yes, I guess so
I thought i'd turned to die. I swear I thought

(53:19):
like tenor did No? I think he's still alive. Isn't
he still alive? If he's asking for a tour? I'm
sure he's alive. Somebody google that to just to make sure.
God damn it. I actually saw him one time when
I was at the Grammys. He was outside the Grammys
one year anyway, she said, he bro this says he
died talking about I. Was he asking for a tour it?

(53:42):
I don't know, y'all just be saying anything on this
damn show. Well, she said it. She said, as an
old person, I'd forgiven him, but it would not work
with him. He asked for one more tour with me,
and I said, no, absolutely not. This isn't the time
one more tour before She said, Ike wasn't someone you
could forgive and allow him back in. And she said,
it's all gone off, forgotten. I don't know what there
are about. The dreams are still there, not the violence,

(54:02):
the anger. I wonder if I'm still holding something in. Yeah, listen,
I don't even know how accurate that movie was, but
that movie was even fifty percent as accurate as it
was in real life. Yeah, you ain't gonna never forgive
that man, especially when it rains and he so crazy. Think.
I don't even know if I mean, I guess you
forgive for your own self to let it go, but

(54:22):
you never ever forget and never move on and never
ever associate with that person again. The water part of
that movie, one of the water spottle and he was
trying to make eat the cake in the restaurant anime.
But he didn't just beat up anime in that restaurant.
He beat up he slapped another chick in that restaurant too,
and then just sat down like it was nothing, and
nobody called the police or anything. Ike was crazy. All right,
Well I'm angela yee and that is your rumor report.

(54:43):
My goodness, all right, thank you, miss Charlemagne. Yes, so
giving that Donkey Donkey it did, going to the police
officers and Sacramento who murdered twenty two year old Stefan
Clock And and you know, I I'm just doing it
to talk about it and get it off on chest
because I really don't have any answers, any solutions. All right, nothing,
Let's just talk for a second, all right, We'll do

(55:04):
that when we come back. Keep a lot just to
Breakfast Club, Good Morning. I was born in Donkey. It's
the Donkey of the death charmina Devil Breakfast Club Donkey

(55:28):
Today for Thursday, March twenty second goes to the police
officers in Sacramento who murdered twenty two year old Stefan
Clocks rest in pieces. Stefan Stefan was in the backyard
of the home he shared with his grandparents and some
of his siblings when he was shot and killed. Let's
go to CBS News for the report police police shooting
death of a Sacramental man over the weekend. Police confirmed

(55:48):
they fired at Stephen Clark twenty times. According to police,
Stefan Clark was breaking car windows and a home glass
door in South Sacramento when confronted by police in his
grandparents backyard. Police say he extended his arms with something
in his hands. Faring for their safety's officers fired their
duty weapons, striking the subject multiple times. Clark was killed

(56:10):
only a cell phone recovered at the scene. An oversight
committee will review the investigation. Now, there were two officers
at the scene that night that fired the weapons ten
times each. Listen, man, my name is Charlemagne, that God.
I've never been in the b s and the listening audience.
I have told you all time and time again that
I am not an expert of anything. I'm just a
man who has lived almost forty years on this planet,

(56:31):
and I have some experiences, and I share my experiences.
If you learn from them, great, If you don't, that's
cool too. I'm saying all that to say, don't look
for me to say anything in this donkey at the
day that will remotely sounded like a solution. When it
comes to the killing of unknowned black men in this
country at the hands of the police, I don't have
one bright idea. Now you hit this story and you're saying, well,
why was Stephan Clark breaking car windows while I was

(56:54):
he running? All those questions or deflections from well, why
did the cops shoot an unknowned black man twenty times? Okay,
he was running because he was scared. He was scared
because he committed a crime, and he was scared because
the cops came. And when you are a black man
in America, you aren't just running from the cops because
you committed the crime. You aren't running from cops because
you fear for your life. And he probably thought to himself,
I'm close to home. Home is truly where the heart is.

(57:15):
Your own backyard is where you're supposed to feel the
most comfortable. Since the farm probably thought let me get
home and then I'll surrender. It probably felt like a
safe space for him to surrender to the police, but
a little stefano that the cops he was dealing with
couldn't tell a gun from a cell phone, which always
seems to be the case when a black man is involved.
If you have a cell phone in your hand and
you know your black cops see a gun. If you
have a remote control in your hand and your black

(57:37):
cops see a gun. If you are holding a large
couple of lemonade from Chick fil A in your hand
and you are black, cops will see a gun. So
I don't have any answers on how to avoid getting
shot by police. It's really the luck of the draw
And I don't even believe in luck. I just know
that if a cop draws his gun and you're a
black man, you're lucky you don't get shot. Okay, I mean,
these kids who shoot up these schools always just get

(57:58):
arrested for some strange reason. Black man committing petty crimes
like breaking car windows sparks more fear and a police
officer than a white kid who shoots and kills dozens
of people. Look, I don't know. Okay, I have not
a clue what to say, all what to do about
any of this anymore. I can't stop being black, and
I don't want to. Okay, there's a lot of fun,
all right. It's a fun anxiety field experience being in

(58:19):
this melan and I wouldn't trade it for the world.
I just don't understand why people, including law enforcement, are
so terrified of it. Okay, the cycle has to break,
and it has to break soon. Cops are scared of
black and brown people. Black and brown people are scared
of scared of the cops. Only difference is we don't
have the license to kill that cops too. Okay, Civilians
can't gun down a cop and use the excuse I
was afraid for my life. I feared for my safety

(58:40):
even though we are But cops can gun us down
when all we are doing is holding a cell phone
and say they fear for their lives. They fit for
their safety. So I understand your fear. But nah, man, cops,
you have all the power in these situations. Okay, As
a black man in America, when we are in these
positions where it's us against the cops, the cops are
truly than those with all Infinity stones at their disposal.

(59:01):
Now I'm gonna play the audio of Stefan Clark being
gunned down and murdered by the police and Sacramento because
all I can think to do in these situations is
address the problem, because I have no solutions. And maybe
addressing the problem will lead to some solutions from somebody,
but they won't beat me. Let's listen to twenty two
year old step from Clark's last moments on this earth.
Good shoot step by some something shows good again? Five

(59:32):
seven shots fire stuff, set down, show hands, see your heads,
five seventies down, No movement. We're gonna be additional units.
We can't see the gun. Hey, can you hear us?
You can hear us, can hear us? We need to gore. Okay,
we need to get you medics, so we can't go
over there and get your help. We're gonna need your stuff,

(59:55):
rescue mass the CPR. Of course you can't and see
the gun. How can you see what doesn't exist? And
I hate when they call CPR and stuff. You just
fired twenty rounds CPR for what. Don't act like you
care about my life after you fired twenty rounds? Asking
someone if they're okay after you fired twenty rounds and

(01:00:17):
they're not moving. I don't know, man, maybe they've been
watching too much Luke Cage on Netflix and they really
think black people are bulletproof. Okay, I have zero answers.
All right. I'm at the point in my life where
I think they just asked us to put our hands
up so they can get a clear shot at our chest. Okay.
And when a cop ask you to put your hands up,
that's something you have to think about too, because I
really don't want to make any sudden movements. It's just

(01:00:39):
I don't know. It's just frustrating, to say the least,
and that's really saying the least. Okay, his poor family,
all right, Peter Stephan Clark, and please give the cops
in Sacramento who murdered this young man the biggest. He
are very sad. What I don't understand. As well as
I thought there was a protoco hall for a police shooting.

(01:01:00):
I thought, at least there was a protocol if they shot,
they shot three times and then assessed the situation. But
they shot twenty times. There was no there was no
shooting back. I think three times it's too much it's
just crazy fire one and shot and that's that. All right,
all right, all right, well thank you for that dog
here today. Up next ask ye eight hundred five eight

(01:01:23):
five one on five one. If you've got relationship advice
and need any type of advice, you can call ye
right now phone lines to a wide open eight hundred
five A five one oh five one is the Breakfast Club.
God Morning, the Breakfast Club. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela, Yee,
Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. It's time
to ask ye. Hello. Who's this Gary? How are you? Hey? Gary?

(01:01:45):
How's it going? Brother? I'm doing well? MV. What's your
question for you? Um? I caught my my wife cheating.
I've been with her for ye eleven years and we've
been married for a year and a half. And I'm
what's called to plating suicide at the time because I
thought she would never do it. But I'm still struggling

(01:02:05):
trying to find out or to state with her or not.
I really love her and I don't want to leave,
but it's everything that I want to leave. Right Well,
first of all, I'm glad that you didn't do anything
like commit suicide because we would hate to not have
you here on this planet with us. And I'm sure
there's so many people that love you and care about
you that would hate for something like that to happen.
It would affect them so much. So you can't make

(01:02:26):
rast decisions like that just because something terrible has happened
in your life, and just know that other people have
gone through what you've gone through and made it through that. Yes,
since my second time going to lose for my last wife,
and I feel less worried like I'm doing something wrong.
It's definitely not you. I'm gonna be honest with you.
Cheating is a very common thing in relationships, and you

(01:02:46):
should never blame yourself because it's somebody else's indiscretions. It
seems more like issues that they have. And I'm sure
everybody in the room can attest to the fact that
we've all been cheated on. Right, Guys, No, I ain't
menated on my wife. You know, my girl when she
was in college, when she wasn't my wife. I can't
relate to what you're going through, bro, And I don't
want to feel your pain either, Charlomagne. It hurts everything.

(01:03:08):
I'm still struggling now man, Yeah, Charlomagne, he was contemplating
killing himself and I could imagine. But yeah, you asked
me a question. I gave you. What you gotta do
is you got you gotta remember that it's not you.
And what you have to do is you might have
to go to church, you might have to go get
some therapy, you might have to talk to somebody. But
do you have any kids? I have a lot? Well
that there you go. There's no reason to lose your
life when when so many people depend on you and
so many people care about you, you got to remember that.

(01:03:30):
As far as your wife is concerned, has as she apologized,
do you forgive her? Is she trying to get right? Um?
It's up in the ear. I mean she doesn't say
the world, I'm sorry. She just she showed with her
actions that's what type of person she is. Still do
with her, I think he's contemplating whether or not he
should stay with her. But what I think you need
to do is, first of all, focus on you. Okay,

(01:03:52):
before you even can't figure out what's going to happen
in this relationship and how to move forward, you need
to fix yourself and focus on being confident in yourself
and knowing that what someone else does does not define you,
it defines them. So she has some issues that she
needs to deal with. She has a lot of proving
that she needs to do to you, because if she
cares about you and she loves you, she would not

(01:04:13):
want to hurt you in the way that she does.
And sometimes people can't even explain why they've done the
things that they've done. I'm sure that she didn't cheat
on you because she doesn't love you, or because you
know you're not enough for her. But she's probably done
that because of her own issues that she has within herself.
Why did she say why she cheated? Does it matter?
I can't. I mean, I can't say too much because

(01:04:34):
people know who she You know who she is. But bro, bro, bro,
can we look at the bright side? You have the
ultimate hall pass right now. The best way to get
over a woman is to get on top of another one.
I'm not like that anymore. That wife that actually might
make you feel a lot worse when you do something.

(01:04:55):
He wants your family back and he doesn't. He wants
to make things right. You gotta have a conversation and
tell her how you feel, and she has to apologize.
He has to understand that she was wrong, and she
has to be remorseful. She can't just say Okay, I'm
sorry and keep it moving. Doesn't work like that. But
what you need to do, sir, is you need to
worry about yourself and do whatever you need to do
to do to make yourself better. And that is definitely
gonna take time, and you have to understand that. Of
course you're going to be depressed. Of course you're her,

(01:05:17):
and of course you're upset. You're a human being, and
that's how you feel. But it will pass, and she
still want to be with you. She does. She says
she wants to be with me and she wants to
be the faithful work that I want. But when you
say stuff like that, I want you to be who
you are, hey man, just say just take your time
and no matter what it is that you do, you
don't have to make a decision right now. And the
only way that she can prove herself to you is

(01:05:40):
by time. So it's gonna take. It might take years
for you to feel like you can trust her again.
But if she's dedicated and willing to do that, and
that's up to you whether or not you want to
allow her, give her that opportunity to prove herself. It's
completely up to you. But in the meantime, you need
to do things that are going to make you feel
better about yourself, about your life, your confidence back, whatever

(01:06:01):
it is that you have to do for yourself. You
need to take the time to do that. You need
to be selfish and being selfish, get over the vagina.
It's not gonna be easy, but it will take time,
and you get through it. Bro and work on your
mental health as well. Work on your mind, work on
all of those things. Okay, I'm still phil Sometimes I
still want I don't want to be here, but I
have friends and family that helped me through it. And

(01:06:21):
I promise you as soon as you get some other vagina,
you'll feel better. As far as your wife, the best
apology is change behavior, so she can say sorry, but
she got to stop popping that poom poom for other goons.
And I just want to say one last thing. Just
think about things that you've gone through in the past.
You said your ex wife cheated on you as well.
You got over that, right, I did, but I was
in a hospital. It took a while and you got
through it, So all I'm saying. All I'm saying is

(01:06:43):
it does take a while, but you will get through
it same time, and you will have to make sure
that you're here to make sure you get through it.
How'd you get over your ex? You got over your EXBI?
What getting with another woman? Right? I did not, charlote mene.
How'd you get over hurd In through the grace of
guard and in the hospital, no doubt. And after a
while you got with another woman right when he When
you're ready, you can do making whatever decision that you
want to trying to rush to that. And also today's

(01:07:04):
my birthday, well happy birthday, brother man? Where you actual
I can send you a prostitute? Are you living? And
my mother thought on my birthday as well? You know
what I'm going. I'm well, you know what, I'm bless.
You know what. You're gonna put you on hole man,
and we're gonna take you numb and check up on you,
man and make sure everything is good. Man. I'm glad
you and your worthe from doing better too, Nvy and
thank you for everybody on that show. Think about it.

(01:07:27):
Me and my wife we've been going through it for
six years and this upsta downs, but we push harder
and we both try to make it work. And I
do what I have to do as a man to
show that I'm sorry. And Nvy actually had a situation
where he too had to go to the hospital. Yeah,
sometimes things happen. But we're gonna put you a hole
right already. Thank you both. You both have all you guys,
have a good day, all right? Growing up? Happy birthday.
It's that man birthday. He needs a drink and a prostitute. Okay,

(01:07:49):
I wish I was his homeboy. Fun to day. Eight
hundred five eighty five one O five one. You got
a question calling now it's the breakfast Club. Goal on
it more than everybody is DJ n v Angela Yee
Scharlomagne the guy we all the Breakfast Club now on
the line. Right now. We have a young lady that
called a couple of weeks ago. Her name is Ebony Ebbany. Hello,

(01:08:09):
how are you? We're doing good? Now? Last time you called,
you needed some advice, you wanted to raise and YE
helped you out right. Yes, all right, so Ebony, let's
do a little recap, so you cause up and explain
what happened, So I cause you guys, I asked to pause.
You guys, we have stayed that worst first because I
recorded myself, So I asked my fast work was raid,

(01:08:30):
gave me advice talk with still told me, well, hold on, Ebany,
we actually have the clip when you called the last time,
so let's play it now. I discarded this job. I
took a pay cut to come to this job. I
was late two fourteen this year at first, and then
I took a pay cut like a two dollars fifty,
said pay cus, this is our third month of being open.
It's a fast fool industry. I never worked in fastful,

(01:08:53):
so this is something new to me. I'm always doing
like receptionist or a pause center. So my boss given
to get three people still raise, and I feel like
I need a raise, Like he keeps talking to me
about it, but he's still having gave me a race.
But what is it that makes you feel like you
deserve a raise? My hard work? I was the only
manager thinger. I trying everyone, and he was bringing people

(01:09:16):
one and started lawf higher than me. What you have
to do is set up a meeting with your boss.
So this is an official sit down of you sitting
down to ask for what it is that you feel
that you deserve. Make sure you have a list and
documents of everything showing why you deserve that raise. What
are your responsibilities? Have you gone above and beyond those responsibilities?

(01:09:37):
Offered to say? What is it that I need to do?
If you feel like at this point in time, I'm
not going to get a raise, what do I need
to do to earn that raise? Or are there additional
responsibilities that I can take on so that I can
make more money here because I have been putting forth
all of this extra work. All right, so Ebony, tell
me what happened? Okay, he actually approached me. It was
one stressful day of work. I work a fast fool,

(01:09:57):
was so stressful. I was running I'm the house at
that house. A lot of employees did not show up,
so towards the lunch rush everything was over with. He
called me to his office. He was like, before I
walked off to the Ebony, can I tell you something?
I said yes, because I'm giving your raid and he
told me up. I was so happy. He didn't want
me to tell you on but I told my parents.
I was extremely happy, and because I do realize all

(01:10:18):
your hard work. And it was right before the deadline
that I told you about, right before April. But we're
nervous right now. I can't even get everything. We are
very excited for you, EBONYC There you have it. Your
heart work did not go unnoticed. Yes, I'm like, oh
my goodness, I was so happy. Now when he offered
you a raise, did you barter it all and ask
for more? No? I did, and my boyfriend said I
should ask for more, but it was actually like us

(01:10:40):
two hour raid. So I'm making a lot more, just
my highest friend job I've ever had. So I my
boyshood like you should ask for more. I'm like, I
think that was worth it. And then I'm starting my
own business also, So all right, Ebony, but we're very
happy and proud of you up here on the Breakfast
Club year and go get us. So we're really really happy.
And that's why, no matter what, when you're working a job,
even if you feel like you're not getting paid what

(01:11:01):
you should be getting paid, you always got to put
forth the best effort because you never know who's watching
and what can happen from it. No reason to do
a job and agree to do something if you're not
gonna put forth your best effort. Yes, that's the true
wife is what you make. If you hate your job
every day, you're gonna hate your life every day. There
you go, all right, Ebony, congratulations, I'm glad you're happy.
Alrighty mama, I love you too, all right? Ask ye

(01:11:24):
eight hundred and five eighty five, one on five one.
If you got a question for you, you could call
it anytime. You've got rooms on the way. Yes, we
are going to talk about Princess Love versus Brandy. We
gave you the story that they did not show up
to Princess Love's baby shower because they had an argument.
Well now it seems like Princess Love thinks Brandy's being phony. Okay,
we'll talk about it when we come back. It's the
Breakfast Club. Good morning morning. Everybody is d and angela

(01:11:46):
Ye sholomy the God we are the Breakfast Club. Happy
Thursday to you and yours. What's happening? Let's get to
these Princess Love Brandy thing the wagons in the game
right now? What happen to be Jesus Chris is the rue.

(01:12:10):
Well we told you before about Princess to Love and
she had her baby shower a Brandy and her mom
did not show up to the baby shower. Apparently they
were upset about some post she had done after she
was mad at ray J. She felt that he had
I guess cheated on her. Well, Brandy did do a
post congrats to my brother and sister on their baby
and baby shower. I'm very excited to be an auntie.
So sorry I missed at the moment with the both

(01:12:32):
of you. I had a show on Hampton, Virginia on
the same day, but I'm so glad I was able
to push my flight back for the gender revealed the
day before. There is nothing here but love and no
matter what anyone says, we are family and we will
always be. That's when Princess Love responded, STF you posting this,
I should post what you just text me? So I
guess that's her way of saying that Brandy's not keeping

(01:12:53):
it real, it's lying. Yeah, all right. It probably is
more than likely front and for the gram yeah them,
because she probably didn't that negative press about her not
showing up to the baby shower. Yeah, and she probably
think that by posting something people would be like, well, No,
Brandy doesn't hate Princess, because if she did, she wouldn't
have posted this. All right, Well, I think Ray Jay's
coming here next week anyway, so we'll ask him about
all of that. All right, Rich the kid he is married,

(01:13:16):
and you know rich to care from the new Freezer song.
I keep trying to get you guys to challenge get
this song with Kendrick who don't Anyway. Apparently he's married
to a woman named Antoinette, and she is now asking
for a full physical custody of their two kids, and
she wants to joint legal custody and spousal support as
well because they want she plans to get a divorce now. Previously,

(01:13:38):
she had posted on social media that he was cheating
on her with a number of different women, and she
also had accused him of domestic violence back in twenty sixteen.
So the reports are that they do have one child together,
but she accused him of cheating with people like Black China,
India Love amongst other women. All Right, it's a nice
little roster, you know what I'm saying. If you're gonna

(01:13:58):
go out, go out blazing, you know, I'm sure he
don't want to go. Hey, man, if you're gonna go out,
go a blade, and it's a nice little roster the half,
you know. All right, Sissa, she is now talking once again,
and she actually has done this before, about leaving music
and saying that her next album will be her last album.
She said, my world got so much smaller so fast.

(01:14:19):
I have so much to write about. I feel like
I'm in a cage. I'm making the best album of
my life for this next album, and I know that
because it's going to be my last album. I hope
that's not true. I hope it's not true too, because
Sissa is super talented. She writes for other people. Her
album was incredible. I know if she says this next
one is going to be even better, I can't even
imagine what that's gonna be like. But maybe what she

(01:14:39):
means that she's not gonna do albums anymore, maybe continue
to write. By the way, everybody that we've ever heard
say that has continued to put out more music. And
the one person who never said that and stuck with
it was Lauren Hill. Okay, so if you're gonna do it,
just do it, all right, Well, don't forget the control version,
the Deluxe Version of Control is coming out sometime this year,
so there'll be six new songs on that, so you'll
have that as well as an another album on the way. Now,

(01:15:01):
Kanye is having some issues about using the Yeasy name legally.
For whatever reason. He has that name trademarked for his
shoes his footwear since twenty thirteen, but he abandoned the
trademark for other clothing items beside shoes just last year,
and another company in China actually seize that opportunity and
they trademark the term Yeazy Boost for their clothing products.

(01:15:24):
So now there's some issues with Kanye trying to get
that name back. He refiled for an application, but they're
saying another company has that trademark. Now, well that's not
to be a quick fix. He could call it, Yeah,
he did so many different things. People care about the sneakers,
but I'm sure he does. You also don't want people
to buy something else called Yeasy there. They're not gonna
buy nothing other than adidasignye He's good, all right. He

(01:15:47):
also has a Yeasy dating app, and I've been seeing
this for quite some time. I don't understand this is
that his app or that's somebody else to using his name. Now.
I got started by a fan on crowdfunder named Harry
Dry said, I've been built a dating site for Kanye
West fans for the last month or so and I'm
very close to finishing it. I just need a little
help with the final development marketing. And that dating app

(01:16:08):
is not open to fans of Tiller Swift just so
you know. So if you're a Tiller Swift fan, you
cannot go on. There's an easy dating app, but um
both all right, Well, I'm Angela Yee and that is
your rumor report. All right, thank you, miss Yee. Shout
to revote. We'll see you guys tomorrow. Everybody else the
People's Choice mixes up. Next. You want to hear something
at dj N via cole us up right now eight
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