The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Brandon T. Jackson To Discuss Returning To Hollywood, Comedy Career, Cult Community, Spiritual Journey. Listen For More!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning, Breakfast Club Morning,
Everybody's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamage the guy.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
We are the Breakfast Club Low on the rosa fillin
in for Jess and you got a special guests in
the building. Yes, indeed he's on the new.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Show on b E T Plus call Webers The Family Business,
New Orleans, which you're streaming right now.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Ladies and gentlemen, we have Brandon T. Jackson. Welcome brother,
We're back.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
How you doing my brother?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Very well, very well excited. Uh show's doing good. So
you know people are liking that.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Call Weber's the family. What brought you back to Hollywood?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
A nigga's gonna have that?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
What brought you back to Hollywood?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
You know what's so much? It's so funny because when
you when you go out and do a spiritual journey,
you know what I mean, you and you learn and
you aggregate people and you realize that it's like God
gives you a gift, right to use. And when it
gives you a gift, you're not using it. You could
you can go crazy and you can you know, you
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can like get depressed. You can start and I think
my gift. This is something that was given to do
a purpose that's bigger than just acting. So I saw
the whole thing, you know, trying to aggregate, you know,
our people together, to come together economically. And I'm not
the first one to try, and I want to say fail.
But you know it's like artists were artists. What what
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he gave me I believe to to to be alike.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
How the industry changed, meaning like for good for better art.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I don't think I never Here's my issue. The whole
nominati cut off my gas. Everybody blaming something fictitious in
my sense, not I don't you know the whole you know, do.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
You have to sell your soul to be in Hollywood?
Is what I'm saying. Question do you still have to
sell it? Now?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I'm saying, I don't feel like it's like that. I
wonder spiritually. I feel like whatever you would do to
to uh, to get where you gotta go, you gotta
find what energy is pushing you. My energy was always
the most high, you know period. I mean my dad
told me this too. He's like you you got my blood,
my prayers, your grandmother's prayers, your grandfather's prayers running through
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your veins. So when you do these other things, your
ancestors are calling for you not to do, so it
won't work. You know what I'm saying. I've been to
many you know, dark places in life, and I just like,
don't it don't work for me? You know, I tried comedy.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
It's comedy your safe place because you're doing acting, and
you totally dove into comedy.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, you know what's funny, I've been I've been doing
stand up since I was fortunate. I actually started doing
stand up in church. A lot of people think I
went and started doing I started as doing comedy and
then I got the movie Roll Bounds.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
You said in church.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah, I started in church.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
You get up in front of the congregation.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Though, Yeah, I was clean. I was a clean comedy.
I mean I'm still relatively pretty clean, but not you know,
I could do better. But with my dad, he don't
like one to my shows. But uh but uh yeah,
I talk about this in Chestnut. I got a new show,
we Shopping new. Well, it's really good. I actually I
would like you to watch it because you're a tough critic. DJ.
He's seen me perform, he's seen me do well. He's
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seen me bomb, He's seen me get stendovations, everything, but
you never seen me do comedy. I would like that.
I'm gonna send that to you. Just called chest out.
We shopping in Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, everybody. So it's it's
it's looking really good. But yeah, comedy is it was
my safe place when I was going through the whole
spiritual journy. I actually talk about it, and the whole
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thing is about that, you know. I thought, you know,
there's no disrespect.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
But I thought at one time he was gonna quit
comedy because I've seen a couple of shows with Brandon
go up and this was right after everything and bomb.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I was like, there's no way Brandon is coming back
after and this is the bomb that you like? Charlamane
like bomb, like the bomb.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah. I got two types of comedy I like.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
I like when I think somebody is really funny and
really making me think I'm just I'm actually just watching,
like I'm not laughing, you know. I like to catch everything. Yeah,
But when somebody's bombing, yeah, you love it.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I don't know why.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
I think I like watching the person try to figure
it out. That's what makes me.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
But New York bomb is a different from a regular
New York is a different. They they don't want to
even let you get it out, like if you if
you if you bomb in New York. Yeah, you could
say it's like it's it's acceptable because the New York
bomb is like you might be good in another city, y'all.
It was a tough audience, y, but I don't want
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to say that. I don't want to say bombs every time.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
But no, no, no. The DJ for his set at
least fifteen times.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, does we're do it on tour?
Speaker 3 (04:33):
So I did. Everybody said, got you guys, everybody.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Even for years though he seemed he that's what he saw.
New York is the is what I got good. Michael
shout out to him. He actually trained me to get
good because I wasn't wronging them where I was doing
all the movies. So it was Rocky three, you know
what I mean, Like like then that's he was seeing
that moment years ago.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
You was rich a little bit, and that's like in.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Twenty fifteen, sixth thing. But now that's you know, that's
that's old.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
You stay with it though, because it's like you've seen
that and it would take a lot of heart from comedians.
I'm resilient and plus I already know, like I know
what's going to have a waiver.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
That's that's the old thing.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I've seen people comedians head down this, but you always
head up.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I'll get him next time. But what gave you that?
Because I know I known fundy him, I don't have
to try to be fun. I'm a funny person, you
know what I mean. It's just about connecting material to
have a story at the time. So now I have
a story how I left Hollywood for seven years, actually
joined a religious called Achmock but Doc and had to
come back. And Terrence Howard saying me, that's funny. You
know what I mean? That two stories Somewhat it's just fabricated,
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but it's pretty pretty true. No, you gotta watch it.
You gotta watch it.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Terence seems like he's still in the coat right now.
I love Terrence. Though Arreens is smart, I totally agree.
I think there's put this number in the calculating five
five f Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
But you know why I.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Respect guys like that is because they're at least trying
to figure something else. They're just not what has been
told to us all of these years. And if there's
another ways, just show me.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
He's dealing in the it's it's deep man, quantum, the
quantum realm, and that's when you start talking about quantum
physics and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
It's a different game. You're talking different language. You know,
we keep talking about Republican Democrats. Y'all better worry about
these computers. This is this is about to get real.
I have a tech company that that run and that
I'm doing and these I have machines right now building
machines by itself. Like he's in that realm and he's
talking about stuff that people don't understand. So I know,
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you know, I talked to him yesterday, sent me a
forty page book about what he was talking about. I
don't understand any of it. Yeah, I read it. It's
all numbers and stuff.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
So did you ready? I was gonna ask you. So
when you send that, Michael's helped you bring your raw back.
What how do you do that?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Go to Jamaican clubs at three in the morning, do comedy.
Go do that? See what happens. They're gonna play the
whistles on you. In New York. Go to Harlem at
three in the morning do comedy. Be the fifteen thousand
person up and get booed, you know what I'm saying,
and then then go do New York is the place
you get great period Detroit, and from Detroit and Detroit
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to place you you have the flavor. But New York
is a place you just you just They not gonna play, don't.
They don't care. They got too many people. So we
would go to the comic clubs every night, every night,
all night, all night, all night. I'll be up to
five in the morning. Now go shoot my show called
dead Beat at the time, South Far Long Dead Beating.
From there, I will go to the clubs all night,
all night and we rip, say until you get standing ovations,
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and then then I start. He's gonna be mad at
I start killing it because that would take I took
his style too, because he has a New York style
where he hit you like this, you see rip you
know me. I'm an actually an actor style where I
act out. I'm like a Richer and Eddie. Well, you
got to listen to the act out. New York don't
want to see an act out. They're more punchy, you
know what I mean. That's a style.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
You know what I mean, makes you play I think
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
No, I don't. I mean, I'm in I love I'm
in Michigan most of the time.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
I'm talking about when you you're from the Triple, when
you was out there doing the Hollywood thing.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah it did. Yeah, it made me, It made me up.
But I'm it's you know, I was so I blew
up at nineteen.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Man, you think it came too fast for you?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
No, I believe on the personal level, yeah, I believe
that I didn't stick to my core energy of what
brought me here. I believe that when you centered in God.
And I don't like preaching and I don't like you
better be afraid to testify. No, I know, but it's
like sometimes people get on the radio, they always want
to preach the stuff, but it's like, it's really the
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core of who I am. And I literally made a
promise to God when I was a kid. I said,
you make me famous, this is what I would do
for you. Like, so, if you say, is there is
there a energy pool? I do believe people do make
dark covenants and different things. And I do think people
make light covenants. In this case, my my covenant was
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was was was it light? I was always I was
given the God as a child, you know, and symbol
style you know what I mean with the anointed oil
with so when you go like that, but you you
can't get away from that. I tried. I tried it.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
And so during your breakaway from Hollywood, and that was
your focus, Like I mean, I know, I saw some
quotes that you said you wanted to just build community
as well, kind.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Of yeah, I know, the community center in the community
to show up. So I'm back. I was. I tried, y'all,
ain't even popular. I gave hundreds of thousand dollars to
this dude, this cult leader. We sup will to build
a community. I I don't know what's about us trying
to build a community together where it's like this forbidden
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thing in the matrix and I just want to challenge it.
And I realized that it's not really because we blame
a lot of other nationalities and we got you, oh
my god, we do though, But at the same time,
it's like I dealt with only us for a long
time and for seven years, and I realize that we
have to like I went, I went, I went, I
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went to the mount the top. You know, we'll talk
about what you're talking about because a lot of people
might not know.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
So you decided to try to it a cult, So
you decided to Was it joining religion?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Was it? No? It wasn't that. It's just the way.
I wouldn't say religion. It was more so understanding leaders
that take the Bible and twist it to to control people.
I would say, you know what I mean, that's what
you were in. I didn't know I was in it.
You never know when you're in the now. You know truth,
You learn truth, want truth when people when people tell
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you the truth, but then they take that truth for
their own power. That's when the truth is not. The
cult is not the problem. The teachers are usually the problem,
you know what I mean? The shepherds that that say, okay,
now that you know this, you know what I mean?
They start to you know, you know what I mean,
give me a wife. He becomes like, wait a minute,
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what you know what I mean? Did they ask you
what you know? What's funny?
Speaker 6 (11:05):
You got a wife?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Now a wife? Now listen, I'm I'm I'm not If
you don't road bounds was a long time ago. I
don't got four children. I'm grown, I.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Got kids, and I thought, let's get back to the
first question.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I feel comfortable talking about it. That's cool to know.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I'm trying to save it for the special, but we
could talk. I wish, I wish this was an interview
for the special, but because I talk about it as special.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
But we can bring it back to the I'm trying not.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
To say jokes that's in this special. You see me,
and that's why I'm pandering because I'm like that was
poking a little bit, but like so, but you really
want to know that the dramatic part of it, it
was more. It was more so. Uh uh, it wasn't
the whole time seven years I was in the call.
I literally was. Uh. I started when you when you're
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trying to go and build our community together, there's a
lot of trauma. And I think people when they hold
on to the truth and and and understanding of some
certain scripts that they didn't put trauma on people. Is
it the best way I can say it. Yeah, so,
and the person wouldn't say he's in a cult, but
he's definitely a cult.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
She asked about you know your wife and you know
there's a video of online talking about you re dated.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Yeah it was your ex wife technically.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Actually.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
I was where you are?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah, did you figure that out? I'll be back together,
are we? Babe? Now I'm joking calling the babe. That's
y'all locked in listen. You know it's funny. We we
we try to keep everything very private now because we
people can just get into were but we definitely are
a family, and we definitely are. We love each other
very well, very much. And I would say that for me,
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I feel like that I didn't give her the best
version of myself. I would say that.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
That's very interesting to hear you, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
I'm very proud of you to hear you say that
accountability is hard sometimes.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah, you gotta be accountable. I was, I was. I
wasn't a I wasn't the best husband, and not because
I was. I was just gone. It wasn't the guy
she met, you know what I mean. I was achmach badac.
I don't know what my name was at the time.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
So you was like Martin, it was.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
That's not how she met. So you know, it's like,
we can't eat this, we can't do that. Yeah, sit
down and all the submissive stuff. It's like you women
and men submit to love. I learned we got to
submit to love and love is is what's the key.
And when I say that is selfless sacrifice, that's love.
When you don't want to do something and you do
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it because you love that person. I think that's the
lesson I've I've learned and I'm still learning because sometimes
i'm I'm I'm very generous, but I'm not selfless, you
know what I mean? How did you get back to Brandon?
Some prayers? My mama, Jesus bring the mouth?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Jesus said, what did God say? Like, I'm really interesting?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Said, I went to the mouth the top and I
seen it. I seen I've seen it light. You know,
I've seen the whole thing. I was in. I was
in the Holy land and God spoke to me on
the mountain top and you know what he said to me.
He said, get back to work, niggad, get back to work.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
That's what he said.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
I said, go back to work. I was done, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
And you do workman, acting yes.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
And I do the whole thing. So you said get
back to work, and I felt it and I was like, okay,
it's time.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
And it is cool because now I know my source.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
So what did God say to you that made you
step away? Then he just ripped everything from me. He's
ripped it. It's like just ripped it, like just as
fast as he gave it to me. Now I think
about this, I did three minutes laugh factory right and
became roll Bounce was my sec my first audition, got
an agent at CIA right from one one.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
It was a miracle, the fact that I made it
because they was coming to see another comic at the
time and then they were like, what you know, you
killed that set, you got a stand in ovation. Here's
a card. I'm like, what's cod agency? And they know
what COD was?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
C A A right yeah at the time. And then
oh my agents got me too. So it's ridiculous. But
that's another story. Now now you know, I'm at buck Wall,
shout out to them. But I'm saying back in the day,
but that was the start of like the way the
cosmic stuff happened, where I got moved to this to
that and then it just it just it just it happened.
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So fast, and it was like cosmic. It was like, Okay, Boom,
now you got audition with Rollbounds. Now you get Boom,
got that movie. Now you go wilding out. Nick Cannon
is showing you wilding out on the set of Rollbounds.
Now you on that. Then you get an audition for
Tropic Dunner. You don't get the park. Then they call
you back.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
And then you get the park.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
You know what I mean? It was always it was
always like that.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I member on Club Cat Williams said you you only
became successful after dressing like a woman.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
It is.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I mean, it's the whole woman dressed thing. I'm so it.
It's so hilarious to this conversation that never leaves the internet.
By the way, I'm trying, I gonna give yall sound by.
I've come here and give y'll y'all sound by. You know.
The cool thing about Kat Williams, he he has a
cool way of of of of of getting people to listen.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
You know.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
He has a really strategic way of saying things that
make people go. Is that true?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
You know?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
And he has a cool way of selling tickets doing that.
He sold so many tickets. He sold my tickets with
that ship for real. When he said that my whole
tour was old, I was like, thanks, Kat, So it's
kind of like one of those things where no dress thing,
you know. I'm so I'm so partial to the to
how you look at things, you see it. So, so
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you have this error and I'm just gonna give your
history Martin Lawrence, uh missed out fire all this stuff
in the nineties were there was no Internet. Everybody's blind
to it, right, and then after that era you have
Dave Chappelle comes out on Oprah and says this thing
that's that was the start of it, saying what I'm saying.
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So no one knew the conspiracies or whatever it is
about this. Now think about it, a kid growing up
in the nineties, right, Brandy Jackson watching everything, I'm watching,
I'm watching Martin watching everything. Mark Johnson, Ma, ma, ma,
you know middle Internet. So you look at you have this,
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this this knowledge of you of these things. You know
you're looking at it. If there was something wrong, why
don't we as men come to that person and say, hey,
hey man, look you should do some research on this.
I believe this is a dark energy with that, you
know what I mean? Uh, Kat never did that. I
respect him very much, but he never mentored And that's
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why the mentorship in our in our community sppecial to
be black man, we don't. We just want to say
things in the media instead of calling somebody up. So
what is your attentions to really save me and help
or is your attention to bash my brand? So you're
gonna look better because when Martin came to me and
said this play is played in the movie, I was like, yes,
I'm twenty five, pay me three million dollars to work
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with Mark Lawrence. You know what I'm saying. He had
this big ring, He's eating steak. I'm like, I want
I want to you know what I mean, You're twenty five.
I need that move at twenty four, fresh off Tropic thunder.
So it's like, no one's thinking about any of that stuff.
So and that was the case because he said on
the interview, Zach words was he said, y'all don't want me,
y'all want Brandony Jackson, right And I'm looking at him
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on that I'm like, so, wait, you knew they were
gonna come for me, right like, and you told them
to kind of you tipped them and say, y'all need
to go get brandity Jackson. So was that kind of
pimping me out to the illuminati or was there in
his mind?
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Or what do you feel like commedians were in addresses illuminati?
Do you know what I'm saying, that's what he's saying.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
What do you think though?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
What do I feel? I feel that? I feel that.
I mean, I don't, That's what I'm saying. I don't.
It's it's missed out fire lumin It's like someone is
black as a little like, I don't know what it's us.
It's Luminadi, but one of white people is comedy your point.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
I'm older than you, I'm forty six, But when I
was younger, I just thought it was funny. Yeah, I
thought it was nothing else, not even gay, like not
even it just was I just thought it was funny.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
I feel like when I moved to la Is when
I started hearing that like black men wear a dresses
whatever whatever, and I was like, what, I just thought
it was funny too.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I see both points to the defense. I never in
our dramatic arts, uh doing the history, we never had
those type of that came from Greek and Roman Greco Romans,
you know what I mean. So if you're saying you're
going to be pro black and pro this, and this
is what we are, this is what we do, that
was never our art form doing that, far as as
I can study, when I study ancient art, ancient folk tales,
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ancient storytelling, we never did that as far as I know.
So when people say, hey, look that is a Greek
Roman situation, then you know that could be that's an
argument there because we probably learned it from them. So
if you if you're saying this is how our nationality
and what we do and we're sticking together, then there's
an other nationality said, we're Americans and this is just art.
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So I've I just say this. People think that I
think I said it's one of the interviews that the
dress ruined. I think they actually they.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Say you said that, you said it was you said,
you said your career went downhill after the Big Mama's House.
You believe it was cursed because nothing went right since
then since you wore to dress.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
And that's yeah, but you got to look at it.
That's also my mind was in a certain place too,
So I would say, right, I would say when I
was straight away from my principles. It is one is
when when when things got bad on my personal life,
you can't blame as I'm saying, you can't blame uh
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you know your agent, you know what I mean, or
whatever people like to blame Hollywood. You know what I mean.
It's not Hollywood. Is what you do with the power.
And once I learned that, I'm like, it's not it's
no hoghywods. No to me, it's no invisible goals that's
trying to it's like God universe what they want to
call it. I say, Most High gives you, uh, it
gives you a choice to go down these these these
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pathways to learn. And I don't really believe there's any
wrong choices. I believe that you're learning a lesson that
you have to go to get to where uh, the
Most High wants you to be, to learn as a
human because we're still learning. Were still we don't know
the extent of God's love and we don't know this
the extent of his judgment. We just don't know. So
if you have these lessons you're learning, I know I
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would never do it again. Well, who's helping branding right now?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Going through all these and the ups and downs and
the pitfalls, to make sure that you mentally are okay,
Like who's helping you out during that process, because just
talking to it seems like it was it's been a
lot on a on a young kid in the industry
that's like, I don't know who's helping branding if anybody you.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Know what my my my father, I got, I gotta,
I gotta. I got an amazing father and mother that
that just I can talk to like it's not you
know what I mean? And my fast nine of us.
I caught my brother up. Like, I met Holly Bury
the other day and I told her the picture. Yeah,
I told her, so listen, I'm taking you can't you
can't have me, no frudo, I was. I was so
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nervous man. When I met Holly, I read it off
five movie titles for to remember who I was. She
know who the hell was? She was like, was like
was out there like I was like a big mama.
She's like huh and She's like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
traffic thunder that was. She was like, which black guy.
I'm like, come on, well, you a lot younger. I
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was like younger, Holly Berry, I feel. I mean, I
was just happy to take a picture where her. She's beautiful, man,
and she's very sweet, very very nice. I mean, I'm
not that that. It doesn't it doesn't bout Honestly, I
hate to say it, but I really don't care too
much anymore about that stuff. The stuff they got to
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do it fine, Holly Berry is you know what I'm saying,
Like she's her as a human. You know, I don't
because she was so dope fine man. At first, I'm like,
damn Barry, you know, And I'm like, and I saw
myself rattling off these things. I could see her face
like just say what up? You know what I mean,
like high my own. When I saw that she was normal, by.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
The way, that very what starts.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Media.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
I was nervous, bro, I was. I was so nervous
when I was nervous, man, what was she She was
in the in the Delta one skylu what yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
So she was there for a minute you could have
I mean, she had a boyfriend, and and I'm I'm
I'm I'm taking right now.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I want to ask you.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
You said you mentioned your brothers and your father. What
did they say when you put on the dress.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I mean, no one said anything. No one said nothing
until Cat Williams said something.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Wondering. Didn't bother you, It never bothered you.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
And tell somebody said something about because that's the most
fascinating to say. When people have no problem with something.
Your conscience is fine with it, you know, your spirit
is cool with it. But as soon as somebody else
said something, now you like.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, well it wasn't just that. It was more so
my ro stayed in Atlanta for like eight months after that,
just doing music. I don't I lost my mind on
that movie. I don't know what happened, you know what
I mean. I think it was definitely was something that
wasn't right on that movie. I will say spiritually, I
will say that now I can't explain it, bro, because
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because I stayed, my agent called me, we got this
new Bro. If you find out the stuff I turned down,
tell us nice, it's depressing. But if you find out
stuff I turned down while they were getting me to
try to get out of Atlanta, my manager had to
get me out of Atlanta and move me. I had
this big penthouse. It was just wol was wild and bro,
I don't even know why I don't know if I
was subconstantly trying to escape stuff. But then that's when
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I had my first my first daughter. You know, I
can't talk about it because you know, I don't like
no court stuff coming over here, crying on here like
tyres and stuff. But I don't want to have I
got it. We have the same issues that you know.
I'm trying to I can't say too much, but I
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would say this that that started my legal battles personally.
That movie when it came down to me having a child,
going through child support court, going through all that stuff.
That was That was the movie that that happened. But
that could have been because exactly could have been mean person.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
You're doing it with, Martin.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
It was a big movie.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
It was promoted everywhere in a lot of ways. It's like,
oh he going on it.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Just understanding the impact of all of that as somebody
who you weren't like you said you didn't have like
no one called you and said, hey, this is how this.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Is going to go to one mentor cat None of
the mentor does they saw us talking to the media.
Just you gotta I have a whole mentorship program that
I do. Uh, it's called making the brand where we're
building businesses and really teaching financial literacy. I do that
now because nobody be telling us how to do this.
Speaker 6 (26:03):
I get it now.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Though It's kind of like you're navigating a room in
the dark trying to find the light, like the light switch,
when somebody's literally over there at the light switch, and
they're like, oh, he'll figure it out because you're doing well.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
And that's tough.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
You know what I said, who did mentor me a
little bit? Simbad was He's a great great MENTORBA Simbad
is one of the dopest and his brother Mark Atkins,
he was one of the first ones that would showed
me around. That was that was the guy that was
really showing me how this works. And you know, he
he was the only, like I would say, the only
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mentor I had. But you got nineteen. My dad didn't
know nothing about Hollywood and how things go. And then
you know, you and not not making excuses, but we
don't mentor other talents and and even financially, you know,
you know, I've been through so much where I lost
everything with my you know, that lottery ticket scene was
real in real life. You know what I mean I
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went broke, I lost everything, and then God just restored it.
I mean I'm rich again. I mean the praise God.
I'm making a lot of money and it's a blessing.
I'm not saying that to to brag, but it's like,
as as as quick as it left, it came, it
came back.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
I wonder, right, because you know, I've seen you reference
to Scripture Deuteronomy twenty two five and you said that's
one of the like, I guess that paraphrasing, but that
Scripture kind of forbids.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Cis gender men from wearing women's clothes. Getting that right?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Say it again? I'm rusty right now?
Speaker 3 (27:28):
What does that?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I think it's Leviticus.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Is it Leviticus?
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Oh, but it's a line from the Bible that some
people believe for bid cis gender.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Men from wearing women's what.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
What's the it's twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
I thought it was Deuteronomy twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Now it's Leviticus.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Vinic is Alsouteronomy.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Yeah, a state a woman shall not wear a man's garment,
nor show a man put on a woman's clothes. In
Anyone who does such things is an abomination to the Lord.
Your God scripture, Yeah, court the scripture.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
So why didn't hurt other people? Other people's careers?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
You know what I'm saying. No that that whend that
when I caught that.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
This on comedy hype.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Yeah, okay, I'm saying, but why did Why didn't other
people put the dress on? It didn't hurt their careers?
So why do you think it? Why do you think
God cursed you?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I mean that's old, that's old something, but I believe
I cursed myself with with with when it comes down
to not following you, I'll tell you this. If you don't,
if you don't follow the ways for me, if I
don't follow the ways and the most I tried it,
I believe you. I'm saying my ship went down. You
know what I mean. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
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test that anymore. But I would say I can't say it.
I can't say what God's special. We don't know God's
grace and his love for other people. I can't say
what he told you to do. And he never told
me not to wear a dress, you know what I mean,
not like that. He never said that. He never told
me not to work with Martin, But he what I
would say is that once I had, once I learned
that scripture, that's when I started to realize was it this?
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And I think it I was on a lot of
pre interviews while learning learning the learning scripture, and I
think I was talking too much on the internet without
getting full knowledge of the of the things. Maybe it
was maybe maybe it was, maybe it was that, maybe
it wasn't. But I would say this, I would say
that that experience brought me to a place where I
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got closer. I got closer with God to understand his mercies.
I know it's mercies and I know it's judgment from
for me, So I can't say, uh. I mean, I've
seen some people sniff cocaine and go up. I mean,
you know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Did you ever get caught into that that that Hollywood
life of the drugs and drinking?
Speaker 2 (29:37):
And I don't do not. I mean I drink, but
like sometimes you know what I mean. I might have
a drink after this, but we don't get drunk. I mean,
I don't know I smoked weed. I mean it ain't not.
But now I'm more like, you know, I'm kind of
on my health stuff now. But that mean who didn't.
I never got into the extra drugs, you know, I
mean for.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
What I have a question now, because it seems like
you're in a lot, like you're in a more restored place.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah. He restores my soul, right, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
I mean it gives me. It feels like you're kind
of working through things or have work through things. Have
you had a conversation with Cat Williams at this point
about the stuff that was said or what I've.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Been trying to have a he keep running around the internet.
I can't get Cat called me like it's easy. It's not.
I could were you'll cool before. I've always been a
fan of Cat, he said, never meet your heroes. I've
always been a fan. I love Kat Williams. Like it
hurts me to hear him say these these are my mentors,
you know what I mean before? No in my in
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my head in the media, like these are my my
comedic mentors. I'm studying these like these are people.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
You're looking up to know?
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Why you though?
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Why did he Why do you need to my mom?
Like Cat always talking about you. I'm like mam and
everybody everybody he did, but he been talking about me
for years, Like it's been since we was since I
was like twenty three twenty four.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
He said, it's been like twenty some years, right, you
keep going with it.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I'm like, what, Like, I don't know, man, but I
would love to sit down and have a conversation with
Cat Williams just to be like, Nick, why, what's the problem?
Speaker 3 (31:01):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
If whatever his reason is it is like, I mean,
I really don't I really don't care, but I really
wouldn't know, Like why you keep talking? What's the what
is the social media are a llure of of me?
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Like?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Talk about somebody else?
Speaker 4 (31:16):
You think if the person Jackson franchise would have went
a different way? I mean that's Perthie Jackson personally? What
was the person was frustration Press Jackson?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Right, yeah Jackson?
Speaker 4 (31:26):
If that franchise would have win a different way, you
think things would have been different for you? What you
mean if they would have had more success? What do
you mean different from me career wise? Because everybody was
saying that was supposed to be like the next Harry
Potter franchise, and I mean you see would have did
Potter different?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Daniel Radcliffe like, what you think that would have been
the same for you.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I don't know. I have fun. We did that Vancouver
and we had a good time. I mean nothing. I
love my path. My path is dope. Like who the
comeback kid? That's about who wants to watch somebody on
top all the time.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Michael B.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Jordan always got muscles. You know what I mean. I
love it. I mean all the time. You know what
I mean. Like you know what I mean. Like even
even Jonathan Majors, you know what I mean. He like
he's coming back and doing his resilience. It's all about
what story. I believe. I believe we actually write our
stories too. I believe subconsciously we co write with God personally.
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This is my saying is I want none of y'all
people to hit me up like God ain't the Bible
but Ible. I would say that we're co creators with
our decision making to learn the best thing. I think.
I actually, I think subconscously I wrote this story. You know,
I don't like to man, it's not fun to watch
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somebody the hero God of the flawed hero. You know
what I mean. I'm the flawed hero. I might get
drunk sometimes, you know what I mean. I wore a
dress and got mad and got on the internet and
said everyone's going to hell. And then you know what,
I mean to come back with a number one TV show.
That's that's the cool ast story.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
I agree.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
I mean, it's interesting because it feels like you've made
your own choices every step of the way.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
I did, probably not knowing.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
I got to say. Some of it seemed like on
an accident.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I think it's instant. I think it's God leading me.
And then they said that they say lead you in
the path of rights, not to get so deep, but
I mean, like he he has and even when I
make mistakes. That's why I say, I can't say why
that didn't curse somebody else can say why is this?
And I can't say it really cursed me because in
that interview I was deep in new understanding. When you
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have new understanding, you're not supposed to even speak out
about that. So I would even I would say that
that that movie led me down a path for me
to learn whatever lesson I need to learn, whether it's humility,
because I mean people said that back in the day,
I was cool, but I was very arrogant. Arrogant but
I was just I mean, I grew up in a
two parent home. My dad owns a network. You know
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what I'm saying. He put confidence in faith in me.
So I was never trying to be uh. And that's
the thing about black legacy. We say we want family, business,
want legacy, but then when we all, when people see it,
they want to talk against it. Everybody want that ship.
I watched I watch this ig like like and my
my wife be I can't spend like that yet y'all
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don't know the way. The way yo, that y'all be
y'all be killing it. I love, I love my family. Listen,
I love it. I love I work for them. I
know me too. I'm trying to get on your level.
But I'm saying what you what you do is it's
so dope. You know. It's such an inspiration for people
with family, family man, you know what I mean. And
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we need to see that that legacy, you know, you
know what I mean. We want to see our kids
live great too.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Because there's a lot of people that didn't show that.
Like you know, talk all the time about raising our kids.
There's no instruction manual, so you've got to figure it
out on your own. Same thing with relationships, there's no instruction,
manual love. A lot of times you think you're dealing
with it by yourself. So when you do things, whether
it's infidelity or insecurity or whatever may be raising your kids,
there is nobody to be like, damn, I fucked up?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Is it just me? So that's why I put so much.
I put the good love and I write you know,
the books.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Real Life, Real the Family, Real Life, Real Love, because
I want people to know that you're not the only one.
You make mistakes, and it's okay to come backast people say,
and he'll make fun of me, and shit, make fun
of me, but it's all love regardless.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I know that these people love funny.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Nobody makes fun of you. You're just goofy.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
They thought I was arrogant. I was walking in legacy.
You see the confidence that his kids have. They walking
in legacy. They can say, my my father's there, my father.
I was that my my grandfather. Horace Jackson got rest
and so he got We got streets named at them
in Detroit. You know what I mean. We just build
a school in Ghana, Horace Jackson's Technology uh University in Ghana,
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Like we gotta do these things where it's not just
about being famous, wearing sunglasses, smashing chicks. It's trying to
build legacy, and that's what I'm on. I'm not trying
to just be Okay, I'm Brandie Jackson, I'm past, I'm
Brandie jacks and stuff. We're trying to build family and businesses.
I know that's a plug, but that's what we're doing,
family and businesses. Bro, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Legacy.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
But you're right, and I mean it's good to see
you back in a mentally healthy, emotionally sound space.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
I think so anyway, I.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Think it's dope, and that's that's why I don't even
really want to talk to you, because I really want
to see your stand up because I feel like all
the answers are in the stand up and then we
can have a deeper conversation.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, it's it's. It's it's. It's it's funny because it's
drama and I'm funny. I'm not really. I was talking
to my agent about this. I'm funny in a drama.
If you notice everything I've done. That was like, I mean, honestly,
I'm not supposed to say this, but I don't care.
I don't think big Mamaself is a good movie. I
think it's horror movie personally, Remember exactly.
Speaker 6 (36:48):
Why do you think it's a horrible movie.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
It's a good movie because because when you have a
tropic thunder palette offense, when you're around those dudes that
are writing like like like Danny McBride just in the row,
they writing the highest octane of high level satire. Mail Brooks.
When you study comedy slapstick, I don't like slapstick. I'm
not good as a slow.
Speaker 6 (37:08):
Bar comedy like it was like easy punch.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
It's slap I'm not a slapstick artist. I'm funny in
a drama. You know, the best was that was Eddie
was always funny in dramas. Beverly Hills Cop is a drama.
Martin does better, and he actually both. He does great
slapstick because this whole show was slapstick.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
But Martin's of the best physical comedians.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah, physical comedians, but he can do both. Martin and
the drum. Bad Boys is a drama.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Life was a drama.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Was the drama. So when when that's why I'm like
Big Mama, slapstick it, you know, it's not it's not
challenging it's phoning it in, getting the check, dressing up.
So but now with this, this film I have with
family business, I mean it's people like, man, you go
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acting this. I'm like, it's good. I know. You can
do drama like dramas. Drama's easy. Comedy is hard. So
I think I'm I'm the king of drama. Y I
would say, I can do both. I can do drama comedy,
you know what I mean? Very evenly.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
What's special it's called chest out drama is more of.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
I would say. I mean, it's it's not like it's
not as heavy as as Jamis was, but it's it's
definitely it's the through line is drama. You know what
I mean. Leaving your wife and going to damn Nashville.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
I mean, and in white coats and sheets and stuff,
and your wife is sitting at home like, you know
what I mean, where's my husband at? When does that
come out? When can we see that? If y'all keep
shouting out, we get a great deal. So we're negotiations
with like two networks right now. So I just like,
(38:55):
I don't I don't I mean Netflix, y'all. Y'all said,
y'all must have been eighteen billion. Kind come on, I
really I really like Netflix because I think they know
what to do. Amazon's been great with specials lately, you know,
you know, you know, it's funny people get people had
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on Toby. First of all, I love Tooby. Movies Club
is on Toby. I know, yes, love to Be. I
gotta deal with to Be. Actually, and my bros are
people Detroit are making mad beautiful and they're owning their piece.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
So directly, yeah, meet, I loved you.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
I love Toby. To Be is great too. At first,
it was, you know, it kind of got random, like
you wouldn't getting Dinzel Washington. You get Denzel Washington, you
know what I mean, be some bouleg Denzel. And then uh,
you know Ethan Hank, Evan Falcon. Uh sorry, so the
eating honk but no. But now it's like, I feel
like we laugh at that. But then you start seeing
(39:59):
all these producers come up, you know what I mean, Detroit,
all my bros. Shout out to Dennis reed Man, Robinson,
all these guys that that are killing in the film game,
and Tooby is definitely an option. I love Toby. To
Be is great there. They're definitely an option with that,
so I could keep my ownership. You know what I'm saying.
So's we'll see. But with the special therapeut you oh
(40:20):
hell yeah, yes, yes, and uh you know, you know
I would say Terrence. Me and Terrence talk a lot,
no see, Terrence Howard, we talk a lot about how
we're not understand both pisces. So a lot of people
don't understand you know, the vicious fishes, right, we got
one fish that you know, I would say it's very
(40:42):
composed and the other fishes little crazy, I would say, crazy,
but emotional them. And we talk about how we were
misunders I'm eccentric, so we're misunderstood, you know what I mean?
So when I went out one Terrence, me and him,
you know, we talk a lot about know what he
goes through, how he no, he's just like he's actually
(41:05):
right about what he's said. But nobody he's in the
special Actually.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
Yeah, I don't think you're misunderstood. People just don't know
the story. You got seven years on Terrence, I'm talking
about you. Yeah, I got seven years to fill in,
and I think that's the specialist.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Going to do it.
Speaker 5 (41:18):
We only knew what we saw, like media wizing like
little bits of things here and there like sodom. Yeah,
when you were in you would say the boy would
go it would be everywhere.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
I don't even know that.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
And you don't want us to listen to YouTube YouTube,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (41:33):
Crazy.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
I knew he was gonna go here too in this MBI.
I'm happy you did because no one really actually talk
about you know, where have I been in that in
that layers and and even to be mature enough to
to speak about it in a way where I'm not
emotional about it and not hurt. I'm healed and to
see uh, to see where I'm at now is a blessing.
(41:57):
But I would I would say this that I would
say that I would. It was a spiritual hazing. Also,
I think God was was was was testing me. He
does this a lot with with people, and that's you know,
I only say I hate that word chosen, but people
that he has a purpose for. He'll rip everything from
you to see if you're still going to be with him,
(42:19):
if you love and I don't even say him, but it,
if you love it or the most high, if he
loved more than your your your career, more than everything
more than your family. And he did it to Joe.
He ripped everything from it. And I guess I I
think I passed that. I don't want to go through
that again. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Did you see Kyrie Irvan nothing that when he towards
a c l.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
In his eyes and he went to the free throw line,
and you know, because he had to take the two
shots before he exited the game. He hit one and
right before the second he said, thank you God. Wow
with the tory, they said he knew something was completely wrong,
probably knew this is really bad injury.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
He said, thank you God. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
So just like you know, we like to give praise
to God when things are going good. But if you
really truly are believing, if you really truly have faith,
you gonna thank God when things are good and bad
so called back Because I don't believe either. I don't
believe it's so called good also called bad. I believe
everything is just part of a process.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
That's why I'm learning, That's why I'm getting to that.
I'm that, Yeah, you want a journey.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
We don't want a journey. You had a different chapter
in your life right.
Speaker 5 (43:19):
Now, BTJ be the journey right now, How did all
of this the stuff that you went through and then
once you're healed, like then you come back to acting
with like family business, how do you what are you
channeling from all of this in your role now? Because
I think in this role, I was more surprised to
see you be like serious the bad guy like not
but like there's like guns and it's like like, I
don't know, you were just always so clean to me
(43:39):
in like a lot of the work that you Yeah, like,
so how are you channeling that or is that even
a thing?
Speaker 6 (43:45):
In the family business New Orleans?
Speaker 2 (43:47):
You know, you know, it's funny because we had a
we had a my dad had a shoe company called
Wayne T. Shoes back in the day in Detroit the
middle Detroit place get robbed and stuff. But we were
running the store. That that is the like even though
I grew up in the hood and the suburbs, I
would say, my, my, my, my, my seven mile Woodward
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businessman watching my dad run a business. Guns, you know
what I mean. I won't say too much, but like
people try to rob the we had the gators and
every people try to Coolie's and all that. People try
to rob them. You know we would have you know,
we would have to you know, chase them off and
do this. So I remember the times that my dad
would you know. I remember this one time, this trucker
(44:37):
pull pull us over my dad hopeing he'll get mad
with telling story because my dad was, you know, he
from the streets before he became a pastor, drug dealer
before he became a pastor, which is most Detroit preachers,
so he still had that edge and everything. So I
remember one time this truck uh pulled us over, I
mean run us off the road. My dad's like five
a's like my size five eight. And I watched him
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pull this trucker out, his white truck or the trucker
at out of the freaking car. He was like six
maybe maybe six two sixty three, pulled him on the
ground and I was like, nick, I can't say the
n't word right. He said, He was like, nigga, have
you ever mess with my family? I was like, yo,
so I swim My dad roar as a lion, and
(45:20):
the dude was he was jacking him up. My mom
was like, stops. So I'm challenged. I'm channeling my father kind.
Speaker 6 (45:26):
Of character in the show he's very yay.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
I'm channeling that that energy that is really not mine.
It's really my dad's energy. Because I grew up pretty,
you know, pretty pretty cool. You know, I didn't really
have I'm not gonna be like I'm I grew up nice,
but we also grew up running businesses in Detroit. The
church was over here, the shoe store was across the street.
I had to wash the shoe store. I have to
shine the shoes, I had to wash the register. So
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that I grew up in the family business. So I'm
I'm challenging. I'm channeling that. The white side you see
is my West Bloomfield, you know, all white neighborhood. I
got both, you know what I mean. That's kind That's
why my jacket probably looked like this. I got I'm
a variation of things, you know what I mean. So
we look forward to seeing you.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
And Chris Webber is the family business as a Christmopher,
call Weber and also when we when you're special, come on, come.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Back up so we can talk about that specially. I
would love to. I'm listen and I'm it's fine. You
give me your honest opinion. I've I've what I would say, I.
I screened it for a lot of people, and it
got it got in a lot of festivals, and it's
my agent said, don't put in the festivals because we
want to present it, you know, a certain way. But
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it got a lot of good reviews from a lot
of people that watched it. So actually your opinion actually
counts to me in comedy because I know you're tough,
You're you're you're a tough critic. You're analytical too, so
I can see what you're like watching you know, like
when they bomb and watching people figure it out.
Speaker 4 (46:57):
I love dramedy, drama, dramedy specialist like I love uh.
I think Neil Brennan did a phenomenal job with three mics.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
Yeah he did with that. I love Kevin Hart's last one,
The Reality Check.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yeah, it was good.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
I thought that was really good. And I like Andrew
Schultz new one in Life.
Speaker 4 (47:12):
Yeah Andrew, because he's talking about him and his wife's
difficulty of having a child, but it was his fault. Yeah,
he had the Week's for him and I liked. I
like seeing people process their traumas through comedy.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
My next one's classy Rebel. I want to I want
to talk about. I'm talking about the the world. Man.
I'm just tired of the viewpoints of politics on us.
I thinking like a little political in this next one.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
I remember, I remember you said you hate the fake.
WoT fake?
Speaker 2 (47:38):
I hate the fake. I hate fake revolutions like, if
we gonna do it, let's do it. I don't like
I don't. I don't do fake because I was ready.
I was the only one ready to really ride. That's
why I was ready to go, y'all. I created my
own currency. I was we was going, and nobody came.
I was the only one. You had a whole Yeah,
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we had a whole thing. No, it wasn't crypto. It
actually could still work if you do it right.
Speaker 6 (48:07):
But what was it?
Speaker 2 (48:08):
It was called love notes? He remember that love notes.
Speaker 6 (48:11):
Like usher Bucks?
Speaker 2 (48:12):
No, no, no, no, it's not.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
Where do you spend them?
Speaker 2 (48:16):
Well, the infrastructure for it was it wasn't gonna actually
stimulate the American economy and our own economy at the
same time. So it was it was actually, I don't
want to actually give this a weakness. Mandy might try
to do it, but I give enough away. I would
say that because I'm not gonna give you the infrastructure,
but the way it would work, we actually could pay
things forward for people and from their businesses. It was
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creating the ecosystem for African Americans without hurting because when
you when you just take your own and say we're
gonna be all stappary, forget that, they always shut that down.
So it was like, how do you barter with all Americans?
How do you barter with uh white Americans? And how
you bortered with because you still got to do business.
So in this case, it was like, let's not be
just fully Marcus guard be in a situation. Let's stimulate
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our economy, you know, in our ecosystem, but let's also
take it and out their ecosystem. So it was more
of a coupon system that that paid things forward for
people that created economists called love notes, So it was
selfless sacrifice of love notes. You can you can pay
things forward. And we had a little card and everything
I got, I got the whole financial system to help
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the backman everything and then and then.
Speaker 4 (49:26):
I would pay to listen to a full conversation between
you and Terrence Hout. I know you told Terrence I
got the math for that.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
You know what I'm saying, well, he actually does. I
got the math that it actually works too. If you,
if you really it's it's we're actually free. If you really,
if you really know the knowledge of it were we're
actually free. Guys, We're not.
Speaker 3 (49:47):
Really.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
I don't think we're in captivity. I agree, Brandon T. Jackson.
Ladies and gentlemen, we appreciate you for joining us. Thank you, sir.
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, wake that ass up
in the morning.
Speaker 3 (49:59):
Break as Club
Wake that ass up in the morning, Breakfast Club Morning,
Everybody's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamage the guy.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
We are the Breakfast Club Low on the rosa fillin
in for Jess and you got a special guests in
the building. Yes, indeed he's on the new.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Show on b E T Plus call Webers The Family Business,
New Orleans, which you're streaming right now.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Ladies and gentlemen, we have Brandon T. Jackson. Welcome brother,
We're back.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
How you doing my brother?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Very well, very well excited. Uh show's doing good. So
you know people are liking that.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Call Weber's the family. What brought you back to Hollywood?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
A nigga's gonna have that?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
What brought you back to Hollywood?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
You know what's so much? It's so funny because when
you when you go out and do a spiritual journey,
you know what I mean, you and you learn and
you aggregate people and you realize that it's like God
gives you a gift, right to use. And when it
gives you a gift, you're not using it. You could
you can go crazy and you can you know, you
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can like get depressed. You can start and I think
my gift. This is something that was given to do
a purpose that's bigger than just acting. So I saw
the whole thing, you know, trying to aggregate, you know,
our people together, to come together economically. And I'm not
the first one to try, and I want to say fail.
But you know it's like artists were artists. What what
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he gave me I believe to to to be alike.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
How the industry changed, meaning like for good for better art.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I don't think I never Here's my issue. The whole
nominati cut off my gas. Everybody blaming something fictitious in
my sense, not I don't you know the whole you know, do.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
You have to sell your soul to be in Hollywood?
Is what I'm saying. Question do you still have to
sell it? Now?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I'm saying, I don't feel like it's like that. I
wonder spiritually. I feel like whatever you would do to
to uh, to get where you gotta go, you gotta
find what energy is pushing you. My energy was always
the most high, you know period. I mean my dad
told me this too. He's like you you got my blood,
my prayers, your grandmother's prayers, your grandfather's prayers running through
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your veins. So when you do these other things, your
ancestors are calling for you not to do, so it
won't work. You know what I'm saying. I've been to
many you know, dark places in life, and I just like,
don't it don't work for me? You know, I tried comedy.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
It's comedy your safe place because you're doing acting, and
you totally dove into comedy.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, you know what's funny, I've been I've been doing
stand up since I was fortunate. I actually started doing
stand up in church. A lot of people think I
went and started doing I started as doing comedy and
then I got the movie Roll Bounds.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
You said in church.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah, I started in church.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
You get up in front of the congregation.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Though, Yeah, I was clean. I was a clean comedy.
I mean I'm still relatively pretty clean, but not you know,
I could do better. But with my dad, he don't
like one to my shows. But uh but uh yeah,
I talk about this in Chestnut. I got a new show,
we Shopping new. Well, it's really good. I actually I
would like you to watch it because you're a tough critic. DJ.
He's seen me perform, he's seen me do well. He's
(03:07):
seen me bomb, He's seen me get stendovations, everything, but
you never seen me do comedy. I would like that.
I'm gonna send that to you. Just called chest out.
We shopping in Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, everybody. So it's it's
it's looking really good. But yeah, comedy is it was
my safe place when I was going through the whole
spiritual journy. I actually talk about it, and the whole
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thing is about that, you know. I thought, you know,
there's no disrespect.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
But I thought at one time he was gonna quit
comedy because I've seen a couple of shows with Brandon
go up and this was right after everything and bomb.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I was like, there's no way Brandon is coming back
after and this is the bomb that you like? Charlamane
like bomb, like the bomb.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah. I got two types of comedy I like.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
I like when I think somebody is really funny and
really making me think I'm just I'm actually just watching,
like I'm not laughing, you know. I like to catch everything. Yeah,
But when somebody's bombing, yeah, you love it.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I don't know why.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
I think I like watching the person try to figure
it out. That's what makes me.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
But New York bomb is a different from a regular
New York is a different. They they don't want to
even let you get it out, like if you if
you if you bomb in New York. Yeah, you could
say it's like it's it's acceptable because the New York
bomb is like you might be good in another city, y'all.
It was a tough audience, y, but I don't want
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to say that. I don't want to say bombs every time.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
But no, no, no. The DJ for his set at
least fifteen times.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, does we're do it on tour?
Speaker 3 (04:33):
So I did. Everybody said, got you guys, everybody.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Even for years though he seemed he that's what he saw.
New York is the is what I got good. Michael
shout out to him. He actually trained me to get
good because I wasn't wronging them where I was doing
all the movies. So it was Rocky three, you know
what I mean, Like like then that's he was seeing
that moment years ago.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
You was rich a little bit, and that's like in.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Twenty fifteen, sixth thing. But now that's you know, that's
that's old.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
You stay with it though, because it's like you've seen
that and it would take a lot of heart from comedians.
I'm resilient and plus I already know, like I know
what's going to have a waiver.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
That's that's the old thing.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I've seen people comedians head down this, but you always
head up.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I'll get him next time. But what gave you that?
Because I know I known fundy him, I don't have
to try to be fun. I'm a funny person, you
know what I mean. It's just about connecting material to
have a story at the time. So now I have
a story how I left Hollywood for seven years, actually
joined a religious called Achmock but Doc and had to
come back. And Terrence Howard saying me, that's funny. You
know what I mean? That two stories Somewhat it's just fabricated,
(05:39):
but it's pretty pretty true. No, you gotta watch it.
You gotta watch it.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Terence seems like he's still in the coat right now.
I love Terrence. Though Arreens is smart, I totally agree.
I think there's put this number in the calculating five
five f Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
But you know why I.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Respect guys like that is because they're at least trying
to figure something else. They're just not what has been
told to us all of these years. And if there's
another ways, just show me.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
He's dealing in the it's it's deep man, quantum, the
quantum realm, and that's when you start talking about quantum
physics and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
It's a different game. You're talking different language. You know,
we keep talking about Republican Democrats. Y'all better worry about
these computers. This is this is about to get real.
I have a tech company that that run and that
I'm doing and these I have machines right now building
machines by itself. Like he's in that realm and he's
talking about stuff that people don't understand. So I know,
(06:36):
you know, I talked to him yesterday, sent me a
forty page book about what he was talking about. I
don't understand any of it. Yeah, I read it. It's
all numbers and stuff.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
So did you ready? I was gonna ask you. So
when you send that, Michael's helped you bring your raw back.
What how do you do that?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Go to Jamaican clubs at three in the morning, do comedy.
Go do that? See what happens. They're gonna play the
whistles on you. In New York. Go to Harlem at
three in the morning do comedy. Be the fifteen thousand
person up and get booed, you know what I'm saying,
and then then go do New York is the place
you get great period Detroit, and from Detroit and Detroit
(07:14):
to place you you have the flavor. But New York
is a place you just you just They not gonna play, don't.
They don't care. They got too many people. So we
would go to the comic clubs every night, every night,
all night, all night, all night. I'll be up to
five in the morning. Now go shoot my show called
dead Beat at the time, South Far Long Dead Beating.
From there, I will go to the clubs all night,
all night and we rip, say until you get standing ovations,
(07:37):
and then then I start. He's gonna be mad at
I start killing it because that would take I took
his style too, because he has a New York style
where he hit you like this, you see rip you
know me. I'm an actually an actor style where I
act out. I'm like a Richer and Eddie. Well, you
got to listen to the act out. New York don't
want to see an act out. They're more punchy, you
know what I mean. That's a style.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
You know what I mean, makes you play I think
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
No, I don't. I mean, I'm in I love I'm
in Michigan most of the time.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
I'm talking about when you you're from the Triple, when
you was out there doing the Hollywood thing.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah it did. Yeah, it made me, It made me up.
But I'm it's you know, I was so I blew
up at nineteen.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Man, you think it came too fast for you?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
No, I believe on the personal level, yeah, I believe
that I didn't stick to my core energy of what
brought me here. I believe that when you centered in God.
And I don't like preaching and I don't like you
better be afraid to testify. No, I know, but it's
like sometimes people get on the radio, they always want
to preach the stuff, but it's like, it's really the
(08:38):
core of who I am. And I literally made a
promise to God when I was a kid. I said,
you make me famous, this is what I would do
for you. Like, so, if you say, is there is
there a energy pool? I do believe people do make
dark covenants and different things. And I do think people
make light covenants. In this case, my my covenant was
(08:58):
was was was it light? I was always I was
given the God as a child, you know, and symbol
style you know what I mean with the anointed oil
with so when you go like that, but you you
can't get away from that. I tried. I tried it.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
And so during your breakaway from Hollywood, and that was
your focus, Like I mean, I know, I saw some
quotes that you said you wanted to just build community
as well, kind.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Of yeah, I know, the community center in the community
to show up. So I'm back. I was. I tried, y'all,
ain't even popular. I gave hundreds of thousand dollars to
this dude, this cult leader. We sup will to build
a community. I I don't know what's about us trying
to build a community together where it's like this forbidden
(09:41):
thing in the matrix and I just want to challenge it.
And I realized that it's not really because we blame
a lot of other nationalities and we got you, oh
my god, we do though, But at the same time,
it's like I dealt with only us for a long
time and for seven years, and I realize that we
have to like I went, I went, I went, I
(10:04):
went to the mount the top. You know, we'll talk
about what you're talking about because a lot of people
might not know.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
So you decided to try to it a cult, So
you decided to Was it joining religion?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Was it? No? It wasn't that. It's just the way.
I wouldn't say religion. It was more so understanding leaders
that take the Bible and twist it to to control people.
I would say, you know what I mean, that's what
you were in. I didn't know I was in it.
You never know when you're in the now. You know truth,
You learn truth, want truth when people when people tell
(10:35):
you the truth, but then they take that truth for
their own power. That's when the truth is not. The
cult is not the problem. The teachers are usually the problem,
you know what I mean? The shepherds that that say, okay,
now that you know this, you know what I mean?
They start to you know, you know what I mean,
give me a wife. He becomes like, wait a minute,
(10:56):
what you know what I mean? Did they ask you
what you know? What's funny?
Speaker 6 (11:05):
You got a wife?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Now a wife? Now listen, I'm I'm I'm not If
you don't road bounds was a long time ago. I
don't got four children. I'm grown, I.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Got kids, and I thought, let's get back to the
first question.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I feel comfortable talking about it. That's cool to know.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I'm trying to save it for the special, but we
could talk. I wish, I wish this was an interview
for the special, but because I talk about it as special.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
But we can bring it back to the I'm trying not.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
To say jokes that's in this special. You see me,
and that's why I'm pandering because I'm like that was
poking a little bit, but like so, but you really
want to know that the dramatic part of it, it
was more. It was more so. Uh uh, it wasn't
the whole time seven years I was in the call.
I literally was. Uh. I started when you when you're
(11:53):
trying to go and build our community together, there's a
lot of trauma. And I think people when they hold
on to the truth and and and understanding of some
certain scripts that they didn't put trauma on people. Is
it the best way I can say it. Yeah, so,
and the person wouldn't say he's in a cult, but
he's definitely a cult.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
She asked about you know your wife and you know
there's a video of online talking about you re dated.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Yeah it was your ex wife technically.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Actually.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
I was where you are?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah, did you figure that out? I'll be back together,
are we? Babe? Now I'm joking calling the babe. That's
y'all locked in listen. You know it's funny. We we
we try to keep everything very private now because we
people can just get into were but we definitely are
a family, and we definitely are. We love each other
very well, very much. And I would say that for me,
(12:46):
I feel like that I didn't give her the best
version of myself. I would say that.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
That's very interesting to hear you, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
I'm very proud of you to hear you say that
accountability is hard sometimes.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah, you gotta be accountable. I was, I was. I
wasn't a I wasn't the best husband, and not because
I was. I was just gone. It wasn't the guy
she met, you know what I mean. I was achmach badac.
I don't know what my name was at the time.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
So you was like Martin, it was.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
That's not how she met. So you know, it's like,
we can't eat this, we can't do that. Yeah, sit
down and all the submissive stuff. It's like you women
and men submit to love. I learned we got to
submit to love and love is is what's the key.
And when I say that is selfless sacrifice, that's love.
When you don't want to do something and you do
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it because you love that person. I think that's the
lesson I've I've learned and I'm still learning because sometimes
i'm I'm I'm very generous, but I'm not selfless, you
know what I mean? How did you get back to Brandon?
Some prayers? My mama, Jesus bring the mouth?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Jesus said, what did God say? Like, I'm really interesting?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Said, I went to the mouth the top and I
seen it. I seen I've seen it light. You know,
I've seen the whole thing. I was in. I was
in the Holy land and God spoke to me on
the mountain top and you know what he said to me.
He said, get back to work, niggad, get back to work.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
That's what he said.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
I said, go back to work. I was done, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
And you do workman, acting yes.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
And I do the whole thing. So you said get
back to work, and I felt it and I was like, okay,
it's time.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
And it is cool because now I know my source.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
So what did God say to you that made you
step away? Then he just ripped everything from me. He's
ripped it. It's like just ripped it, like just as
fast as he gave it to me. Now I think
about this, I did three minutes laugh factory right and
became roll Bounce was my sec my first audition, got
an agent at CIA right from one one.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
It was a miracle, the fact that I made it
because they was coming to see another comic at the
time and then they were like, what you know, you
killed that set, you got a stand in ovation. Here's
a card. I'm like, what's cod agency? And they know
what COD was?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
C A A right yeah at the time. And then
oh my agents got me too. So it's ridiculous. But
that's another story. Now now you know, I'm at buck Wall,
shout out to them. But I'm saying back in the day,
but that was the start of like the way the
cosmic stuff happened, where I got moved to this to
that and then it just it just it just it happened.
(15:25):
So fast, and it was like cosmic. It was like, Okay, Boom,
now you got audition with Rollbounds. Now you get Boom,
got that movie. Now you go wilding out. Nick Cannon
is showing you wilding out on the set of Rollbounds.
Now you on that. Then you get an audition for
Tropic Dunner. You don't get the park. Then they call
you back.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
And then you get the park.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
You know what I mean? It was always it was
always like that.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I member on Club Cat Williams said you you only
became successful after dressing like a woman.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
It is.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I mean, it's the whole woman dressed thing. I'm so it.
It's so hilarious to this conversation that never leaves the internet.
By the way, I'm trying, I gonna give yall sound by.
I've come here and give y'll y'all sound by. You know.
The cool thing about Kat Williams, he he has a
cool way of of of of of getting people to listen.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
You know.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
He has a really strategic way of saying things that
make people go. Is that true?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
You know?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
And he has a cool way of selling tickets doing that.
He sold so many tickets. He sold my tickets with
that ship for real. When he said that my whole
tour was old, I was like, thanks, Kat, So it's
kind of like one of those things where no dress thing,
you know. I'm so I'm so partial to the to
how you look at things, you see it. So, so
(16:50):
you have this error and I'm just gonna give your
history Martin Lawrence, uh missed out fire all this stuff
in the nineties were there was no Internet. Everybody's blind
to it, right, and then after that era you have
Dave Chappelle comes out on Oprah and says this thing
that's that was the start of it, saying what I'm saying.
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So no one knew the conspiracies or whatever it is
about this. Now think about it, a kid growing up
in the nineties, right, Brandy Jackson watching everything, I'm watching,
I'm watching Martin watching everything. Mark Johnson, Ma, ma, ma,
you know middle Internet. So you look at you have this,
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this this knowledge of you of these things. You know
you're looking at it. If there was something wrong, why
don't we as men come to that person and say, hey,
hey man, look you should do some research on this.
I believe this is a dark energy with that, you
know what I mean? Uh, Kat never did that. I
respect him very much, but he never mentored And that's
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why the mentorship in our in our community sppecial to
be black man, we don't. We just want to say
things in the media instead of calling somebody up. So
what is your attentions to really save me and help
or is your attention to bash my brand? So you're
gonna look better because when Martin came to me and
said this play is played in the movie, I was like, yes,
I'm twenty five, pay me three million dollars to work
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with Mark Lawrence. You know what I'm saying. He had
this big ring, He's eating steak. I'm like, I want
I want to you know what I mean, You're twenty five.
I need that move at twenty four, fresh off Tropic thunder.
So it's like, no one's thinking about any of that stuff.
So and that was the case because he said on
the interview, Zach words was he said, y'all don't want me,
y'all want Brandony Jackson, right And I'm looking at him
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on that I'm like, so, wait, you knew they were
gonna come for me, right like, and you told them
to kind of you tipped them and say, y'all need
to go get brandity Jackson. So was that kind of
pimping me out to the illuminati or was there in
his mind?
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Or what do you feel like commedians were in addresses illuminati?
Do you know what I'm saying, that's what he's saying.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
What do you think though?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
What do I feel? I feel that? I feel that.
I mean, I don't, That's what I'm saying. I don't.
It's it's missed out fire lumin It's like someone is
black as a little like, I don't know what it's us.
It's Luminadi, but one of white people is comedy your point.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
I'm older than you, I'm forty six, But when I
was younger, I just thought it was funny. Yeah, I
thought it was nothing else, not even gay, like not
even it just was I just thought it was funny.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
I feel like when I moved to la Is when
I started hearing that like black men wear a dresses
whatever whatever, and I was like, what, I just thought
it was funny too.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I see both points to the defense. I never in
our dramatic arts, uh doing the history, we never had
those type of that came from Greek and Roman Greco Romans,
you know what I mean. So if you're saying you're
going to be pro black and pro this, and this
is what we are, this is what we do, that
was never our art form doing that, far as as
I can study, when I study ancient art, ancient folk tales,
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ancient storytelling, we never did that as far as I know.
So when people say, hey, look that is a Greek
Roman situation, then you know that could be that's an
argument there because we probably learned it from them. So
if you if you're saying this is how our nationality
and what we do and we're sticking together, then there's
an other nationality said, we're Americans and this is just art.
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So I've I just say this. People think that I
think I said it's one of the interviews that the
dress ruined. I think they actually they.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Say you said that, you said it was you said,
you said your career went downhill after the Big Mama's House.
You believe it was cursed because nothing went right since
then since you wore to dress.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
And that's yeah, but you got to look at it.
That's also my mind was in a certain place too,
So I would say, right, I would say when I
was straight away from my principles. It is one is
when when when things got bad on my personal life,
you can't blame as I'm saying, you can't blame uh
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you know your agent, you know what I mean, or
whatever people like to blame Hollywood. You know what I mean.
It's not Hollywood. Is what you do with the power.
And once I learned that, I'm like, it's not it's
no hoghywods. No to me, it's no invisible goals that's
trying to it's like God universe what they want to
call it. I say, Most High gives you, uh, it
gives you a choice to go down these these these
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pathways to learn. And I don't really believe there's any
wrong choices. I believe that you're learning a lesson that
you have to go to get to where uh, the
Most High wants you to be, to learn as a
human because we're still learning. Were still we don't know
the extent of God's love and we don't know this
the extent of his judgment. We just don't know. So
if you have these lessons you're learning, I know I
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would never do it again. Well, who's helping branding right now?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Going through all these and the ups and downs and
the pitfalls, to make sure that you mentally are okay,
Like who's helping you out during that process, because just
talking to it seems like it was it's been a
lot on a on a young kid in the industry
that's like, I don't know who's helping branding if anybody you.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Know what my my my father, I got, I gotta,
I gotta. I got an amazing father and mother that
that just I can talk to like it's not you
know what I mean? And my fast nine of us.
I caught my brother up. Like, I met Holly Bury
the other day and I told her the picture. Yeah,
I told her, so listen, I'm taking you can't you
can't have me, no frudo, I was. I was so
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nervous man. When I met Holly, I read it off
five movie titles for to remember who I was. She
know who the hell was? She was like, was like
was out there like I was like a big mama.
She's like huh and She's like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
traffic thunder that was. She was like, which black guy.
I'm like, come on, well, you a lot younger. I
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was like younger, Holly Berry, I feel. I mean, I
was just happy to take a picture where her. She's beautiful, man,
and she's very sweet, very very nice. I mean, I'm
not that that. It doesn't it doesn't bout Honestly, I
hate to say it, but I really don't care too
much anymore about that stuff. The stuff they got to
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do it fine, Holly Berry is you know what I'm saying,
Like she's her as a human. You know, I don't
because she was so dope fine man. At first, I'm like,
damn Barry, you know, And I'm like, and I saw
myself rattling off these things. I could see her face
like just say what up? You know what I mean,
like high my own. When I saw that she was normal, by.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
The way, that very what starts.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Media.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
I was nervous, bro, I was. I was so nervous
when I was nervous, man, what was she She was
in the in the Delta one skylu what yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
So she was there for a minute you could have
I mean, she had a boyfriend, and and I'm I'm
I'm I'm taking right now.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I want to ask you.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
You said you mentioned your brothers and your father. What
did they say when you put on the dress.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I mean, no one said anything. No one said nothing
until Cat Williams said something.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Wondering. Didn't bother you, It never bothered you.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
And tell somebody said something about because that's the most
fascinating to say. When people have no problem with something.
Your conscience is fine with it, you know, your spirit
is cool with it. But as soon as somebody else
said something, now you like.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, well it wasn't just that. It was more so
my ro stayed in Atlanta for like eight months after that,
just doing music. I don't I lost my mind on
that movie. I don't know what happened, you know what
I mean. I think it was definitely was something that
wasn't right on that movie. I will say spiritually, I
will say that now I can't explain it, bro, because
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because I stayed, my agent called me, we got this
new Bro. If you find out the stuff I turned down,
tell us nice, it's depressing. But if you find out
stuff I turned down while they were getting me to
try to get out of Atlanta, my manager had to
get me out of Atlanta and move me. I had
this big penthouse. It was just wol was wild and bro,
I don't even know why I don't know if I
was subconstantly trying to escape stuff. But then that's when
(24:58):
I had my first my first daughter. You know, I
can't talk about it because you know, I don't like
no court stuff coming over here, crying on here like
tyres and stuff. But I don't want to have I
got it. We have the same issues that you know.
I'm trying to I can't say too much, but I
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would say this that that started my legal battles personally.
That movie when it came down to me having a child,
going through child support court, going through all that stuff.
That was That was the movie that that happened. But
that could have been because exactly could have been mean person.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
You're doing it with, Martin.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
It was a big movie.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
It was promoted everywhere in a lot of ways. It's like,
oh he going on it.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Just understanding the impact of all of that as somebody
who you weren't like you said you didn't have like
no one called you and said, hey, this is how this.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Is going to go to one mentor cat None of
the mentor does they saw us talking to the media.
Just you gotta I have a whole mentorship program that
I do. Uh, it's called making the brand where we're
building businesses and really teaching financial literacy. I do that
now because nobody be telling us how to do this.
Speaker 6 (26:03):
I get it now.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Though It's kind of like you're navigating a room in
the dark trying to find the light, like the light switch,
when somebody's literally over there at the light switch, and
they're like, oh, he'll figure it out because you're doing well.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
And that's tough.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
You know what I said, who did mentor me a
little bit? Simbad was He's a great great MENTORBA Simbad
is one of the dopest and his brother Mark Atkins,
he was one of the first ones that would showed
me around. That was that was the guy that was
really showing me how this works. And you know, he
he was the only, like I would say, the only
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mentor I had. But you got nineteen. My dad didn't
know nothing about Hollywood and how things go. And then
you know, you and not not making excuses, but we
don't mentor other talents and and even financially, you know,
you know, I've been through so much where I lost
everything with my you know, that lottery ticket scene was
real in real life. You know what I mean I
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went broke, I lost everything, and then God just restored it.
I mean I'm rich again. I mean the praise God.
I'm making a lot of money and it's a blessing.
I'm not saying that to to brag, but it's like,
as as as quick as it left, it came, it
came back.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
I wonder, right, because you know, I've seen you reference
to Scripture Deuteronomy twenty two five and you said that's
one of the like, I guess that paraphrasing, but that
Scripture kind of forbids.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Cis gender men from wearing women's clothes. Getting that right?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Say it again? I'm rusty right now?
Speaker 3 (27:28):
What does that?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I think it's Leviticus.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Is it Leviticus?
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Oh, but it's a line from the Bible that some
people believe for bid cis gender.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Men from wearing women's what.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
What's the it's twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
I thought it was Deuteronomy twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Now it's Leviticus.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Vinic is Alsouteronomy.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Yeah, a state a woman shall not wear a man's garment,
nor show a man put on a woman's clothes. In
Anyone who does such things is an abomination to the Lord.
Your God scripture, Yeah, court the scripture.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
So why didn't hurt other people? Other people's careers?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
You know what I'm saying. No that that whend that
when I caught that.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
This on comedy hype.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Yeah, okay, I'm saying, but why did Why didn't other
people put the dress on? It didn't hurt their careers?
So why do you think it? Why do you think
God cursed you?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I mean that's old, that's old something, but I believe
I cursed myself with with with when it comes down
to not following you, I'll tell you this. If you don't,
if you don't follow the ways for me, if I
don't follow the ways and the most I tried it,
I believe you. I'm saying my ship went down. You
know what I mean. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
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test that anymore. But I would say I can't say it.
I can't say what God's special. We don't know God's
grace and his love for other people. I can't say
what he told you to do. And he never told
me not to wear a dress, you know what I mean,
not like that. He never said that. He never told
me not to work with Martin, But he what I
would say is that once I had, once I learned
that scripture, that's when I started to realize was it this?
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And I think it I was on a lot of
pre interviews while learning learning the learning scripture, and I
think I was talking too much on the internet without
getting full knowledge of the of the things. Maybe it
was maybe maybe it was, maybe it was that, maybe
it wasn't. But I would say this, I would say
that that experience brought me to a place where I
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got closer. I got closer with God to understand his mercies.
I know it's mercies and I know it's judgment from
for me, So I can't say, uh. I mean, I've
seen some people sniff cocaine and go up. I mean,
you know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Did you ever get caught into that that that Hollywood
life of the drugs and drinking?
Speaker 2 (29:37):
And I don't do not. I mean I drink, but
like sometimes you know what I mean. I might have
a drink after this, but we don't get drunk. I mean,
I don't know I smoked weed. I mean it ain't not.
But now I'm more like, you know, I'm kind of
on my health stuff now. But that mean who didn't.
I never got into the extra drugs, you know, I
mean for.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
What I have a question now, because it seems like
you're in a lot, like you're in a more restored place.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah. He restores my soul, right, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
I mean it gives me. It feels like you're kind
of working through things or have work through things. Have
you had a conversation with Cat Williams at this point
about the stuff that was said or what I've.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Been trying to have a he keep running around the internet.
I can't get Cat called me like it's easy. It's not.
I could were you'll cool before. I've always been a
fan of Cat, he said, never meet your heroes. I've
always been a fan. I love Kat Williams. Like it
hurts me to hear him say these these are my mentors,
you know what I mean before? No in my in
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my head in the media, like these are my my
comedic mentors. I'm studying these like these are people.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
You're looking up to know?
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Why you though?
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Why did he Why do you need to my mom?
Like Cat always talking about you. I'm like mam and
everybody everybody he did, but he been talking about me
for years, Like it's been since we was since I
was like twenty three twenty four.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
He said, it's been like twenty some years, right, you
keep going with it.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I'm like, what, Like, I don't know, man, but I
would love to sit down and have a conversation with
Cat Williams just to be like, Nick, why, what's the problem?
Speaker 3 (31:01):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
If whatever his reason is it is like, I mean,
I really don't I really don't care, but I really
wouldn't know, Like why you keep talking? What's the what
is the social media are a llure of of me?
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Like?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Talk about somebody else?
Speaker 4 (31:16):
You think if the person Jackson franchise would have went
a different way? I mean that's Perthie Jackson personally? What
was the person was frustration Press Jackson?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Right, yeah Jackson?
Speaker 4 (31:26):
If that franchise would have win a different way, you
think things would have been different for you? What you
mean if they would have had more success? What do
you mean different from me career wise? Because everybody was
saying that was supposed to be like the next Harry
Potter franchise, and I mean you see would have did
Potter different?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Daniel Radcliffe like, what you think that would have been
the same for you.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I don't know. I have fun. We did that Vancouver
and we had a good time. I mean nothing. I
love my path. My path is dope. Like who the
comeback kid? That's about who wants to watch somebody on
top all the time.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Michael B.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Jordan always got muscles. You know what I mean. I
love it. I mean all the time. You know what
I mean. Like you know what I mean. Like even
even Jonathan Majors, you know what I mean. He like
he's coming back and doing his resilience. It's all about
what story. I believe. I believe we actually write our
stories too. I believe subconsciously we co write with God personally.
(32:18):
This is my saying is I want none of y'all
people to hit me up like God ain't the Bible
but Ible. I would say that we're co creators with
our decision making to learn the best thing. I think.
I actually, I think subconscously I wrote this story. You know,
I don't like to man, it's not fun to watch
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somebody the hero God of the flawed hero. You know
what I mean. I'm the flawed hero. I might get
drunk sometimes, you know what I mean. I wore a
dress and got mad and got on the internet and
said everyone's going to hell. And then you know what,
I mean to come back with a number one TV show.
That's that's the cool ast story.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
I agree.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
I mean, it's interesting because it feels like you've made
your own choices every step of the way.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
I did, probably not knowing.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
I got to say. Some of it seemed like on
an accident.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I think it's instant. I think it's God leading me.
And then they said that they say lead you in
the path of rights, not to get so deep, but
I mean, like he he has and even when I
make mistakes. That's why I say, I can't say why
that didn't curse somebody else can say why is this?
And I can't say it really cursed me because in
that interview I was deep in new understanding. When you
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have new understanding, you're not supposed to even speak out
about that. So I would even I would say that
that that movie led me down a path for me
to learn whatever lesson I need to learn, whether it's humility,
because I mean people said that back in the day,
I was cool, but I was very arrogant. Arrogant but
I was just I mean, I grew up in a
two parent home. My dad owns a network. You know
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what I'm saying. He put confidence in faith in me.
So I was never trying to be uh. And that's
the thing about black legacy. We say we want family, business,
want legacy, but then when we all, when people see it,
they want to talk against it. Everybody want that ship.
I watched I watch this ig like like and my
my wife be I can't spend like that yet y'all
(34:10):
don't know the way. The way yo, that y'all be
y'all be killing it. I love, I love my family. Listen,
I love it. I love I work for them. I
know me too. I'm trying to get on your level.
But I'm saying what you what you do is it's
so dope. You know. It's such an inspiration for people
with family, family man, you know what I mean. And
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we need to see that that legacy, you know, you
know what I mean. We want to see our kids
live great too.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Because there's a lot of people that didn't show that.
Like you know, talk all the time about raising our kids.
There's no instruction manual, so you've got to figure it
out on your own. Same thing with relationships, there's no instruction,
manual love. A lot of times you think you're dealing
with it by yourself. So when you do things, whether
it's infidelity or insecurity or whatever may be raising your kids,
there is nobody to be like, damn, I fucked up?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Is it just me? So that's why I put so much.
I put the good love and I write you know,
the books.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Real Life, Real the Family, Real Life, Real Love, because
I want people to know that you're not the only one.
You make mistakes, and it's okay to come backast people say,
and he'll make fun of me, and shit, make fun
of me, but it's all love regardless.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I know that these people love funny.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Nobody makes fun of you. You're just goofy.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
They thought I was arrogant. I was walking in legacy.
You see the confidence that his kids have. They walking
in legacy. They can say, my my father's there, my father.
I was that my my grandfather. Horace Jackson got rest
and so he got We got streets named at them
in Detroit. You know what I mean. We just build
a school in Ghana, Horace Jackson's Technology uh University in Ghana,
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Like we gotta do these things where it's not just
about being famous, wearing sunglasses, smashing chicks. It's trying to
build legacy, and that's what I'm on. I'm not trying
to just be Okay, I'm Brandie Jackson, I'm past, I'm
Brandie jacks and stuff. We're trying to build family and businesses.
I know that's a plug, but that's what we're doing,
family and businesses. Bro, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Legacy.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
But you're right, and I mean it's good to see
you back in a mentally healthy, emotionally sound space.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
I think so anyway, I.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Think it's dope, and that's that's why I don't even
really want to talk to you, because I really want
to see your stand up because I feel like all
the answers are in the stand up and then we
can have a deeper conversation.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, it's it's. It's it's. It's it's funny because it's
drama and I'm funny. I'm not really. I was talking
to my agent about this. I'm funny in a drama.
If you notice everything I've done. That was like, I mean, honestly,
I'm not supposed to say this, but I don't care.
I don't think big Mamaself is a good movie. I
think it's horror movie personally, Remember exactly.
Speaker 6 (36:48):
Why do you think it's a horrible movie.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
It's a good movie because because when you have a
tropic thunder palette offense, when you're around those dudes that
are writing like like like Danny McBride just in the row,
they writing the highest octane of high level satire. Mail Brooks.
When you study comedy slapstick, I don't like slapstick. I'm
not good as a slow.
Speaker 6 (37:08):
Bar comedy like it was like easy punch.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
It's slap I'm not a slapstick artist. I'm funny in
a drama. You know, the best was that was Eddie
was always funny in dramas. Beverly Hills Cop is a drama.
Martin does better, and he actually both. He does great
slapstick because this whole show was slapstick.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
But Martin's of the best physical comedians.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah, physical comedians, but he can do both. Martin and
the drum. Bad Boys is a drama.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Life was a drama.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Was the drama. So when when that's why I'm like
Big Mama, slapstick it, you know, it's not it's not
challenging it's phoning it in, getting the check, dressing up.
So but now with this, this film I have with
family business, I mean it's people like, man, you go
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acting this. I'm like, it's good. I know. You can
do drama like dramas. Drama's easy. Comedy is hard. So
I think I'm I'm the king of drama. Y I
would say, I can do both. I can do drama comedy,
you know what I mean? Very evenly.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
What's special it's called chest out drama is more of.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
I would say. I mean, it's it's not like it's
not as heavy as as Jamis was, but it's it's
definitely it's the through line is drama. You know what
I mean. Leaving your wife and going to damn Nashville.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
I mean, and in white coats and sheets and stuff,
and your wife is sitting at home like, you know
what I mean, where's my husband at? When does that
come out? When can we see that? If y'all keep
shouting out, we get a great deal. So we're negotiations
with like two networks right now. So I just like,
(38:55):
I don't I don't I mean Netflix, y'all. Y'all said,
y'all must have been eighteen billion. Kind come on, I
really I really like Netflix because I think they know
what to do. Amazon's been great with specials lately, you know,
you know, you know, it's funny people get people had
(39:16):
on Toby. First of all, I love Tooby. Movies Club
is on Toby. I know, yes, love to Be. I
gotta deal with to Be. Actually, and my bros are
people Detroit are making mad beautiful and they're owning their piece.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
So directly, yeah, meet, I loved you.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
I love Toby. To Be is great too. At first,
it was, you know, it kind of got random, like
you wouldn't getting Dinzel Washington. You get Denzel Washington, you
know what I mean, be some bouleg Denzel. And then uh,
you know Ethan Hank, Evan Falcon. Uh sorry, so the
eating honk but no. But now it's like, I feel
like we laugh at that. But then you start seeing
(39:59):
all these producers come up, you know what I mean, Detroit,
all my bros. Shout out to Dennis reed Man, Robinson,
all these guys that that are killing in the film game,
and Tooby is definitely an option. I love Toby. To
Be is great there. They're definitely an option with that,
so I could keep my ownership. You know what I'm saying.
So's we'll see. But with the special therapeut you oh
(40:20):
hell yeah, yes, yes, and uh you know, you know
I would say Terrence. Me and Terrence talk a lot,
no see, Terrence Howard, we talk a lot about how
we're not understand both pisces. So a lot of people
don't understand you know, the vicious fishes, right, we got
one fish that you know, I would say it's very
(40:42):
composed and the other fishes little crazy, I would say, crazy,
but emotional them. And we talk about how we were
misunders I'm eccentric, so we're misunderstood, you know what I mean?
So when I went out one Terrence, me and him,
you know, we talk a lot about know what he
goes through, how he no, he's just like he's actually
(41:05):
right about what he's said. But nobody he's in the
special Actually.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
Yeah, I don't think you're misunderstood. People just don't know
the story. You got seven years on Terrence, I'm talking
about you. Yeah, I got seven years to fill in,
and I think that's the specialist.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Going to do it.
Speaker 5 (41:18):
We only knew what we saw, like media wizing like
little bits of things here and there like sodom. Yeah,
when you were in you would say the boy would
go it would be everywhere.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
I don't even know that.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
And you don't want us to listen to YouTube YouTube,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (41:33):
Crazy.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
I knew he was gonna go here too in this MBI.
I'm happy you did because no one really actually talk
about you know, where have I been in that in
that layers and and even to be mature enough to
to speak about it in a way where I'm not
emotional about it and not hurt. I'm healed and to
see uh, to see where I'm at now is a blessing.
(41:57):
But I would I would say this that I would
say that I would. It was a spiritual hazing. Also,
I think God was was was was testing me. He
does this a lot with with people, and that's you know,
I only say I hate that word chosen, but people
that he has a purpose for. He'll rip everything from
you to see if you're still going to be with him,
(42:19):
if you love and I don't even say him, but it,
if you love it or the most high, if he
loved more than your your your career, more than everything
more than your family. And he did it to Joe.
He ripped everything from it. And I guess I I
think I passed that. I don't want to go through
that again. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Did you see Kyrie Irvan nothing that when he towards
a c l.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
In his eyes and he went to the free throw line,
and you know, because he had to take the two
shots before he exited the game. He hit one and
right before the second he said, thank you God. Wow
with the tory, they said he knew something was completely wrong,
probably knew this is really bad injury.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
He said, thank you God. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
So just like you know, we like to give praise
to God when things are going good. But if you
really truly are believing, if you really truly have faith,
you gonna thank God when things are good and bad
so called back Because I don't believe either. I don't
believe it's so called good also called bad. I believe
everything is just part of a process.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
That's why I'm learning, That's why I'm getting to that.
I'm that, Yeah, you want a journey.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
We don't want a journey. You had a different chapter
in your life right.
Speaker 5 (43:19):
Now, BTJ be the journey right now, How did all
of this the stuff that you went through and then
once you're healed, like then you come back to acting
with like family business, how do you what are you
channeling from all of this in your role now? Because
I think in this role, I was more surprised to
see you be like serious the bad guy like not
but like there's like guns and it's like like, I
don't know, you were just always so clean to me
(43:39):
in like a lot of the work that you Yeah, like,
so how are you channeling that or is that even
a thing?
Speaker 6 (43:45):
In the family business New Orleans?
Speaker 2 (43:47):
You know, you know, it's funny because we had a
we had a my dad had a shoe company called
Wayne T. Shoes back in the day in Detroit the
middle Detroit place get robbed and stuff. But we were
running the store. That that is the like even though
I grew up in the hood and the suburbs, I
would say, my, my, my, my, my seven mile Woodward
(44:14):
businessman watching my dad run a business. Guns, you know
what I mean. I won't say too much, but like
people try to rob the we had the gators and
every people try to Coolie's and all that. People try
to rob them. You know we would have you know,
we would have to you know, chase them off and
do this. So I remember the times that my dad
would you know. I remember this one time, this trucker
(44:37):
pull pull us over my dad hopeing he'll get mad
with telling story because my dad was, you know, he
from the streets before he became a pastor, drug dealer
before he became a pastor, which is most Detroit preachers,
so he still had that edge and everything. So I
remember one time this truck uh pulled us over, I
mean run us off the road. My dad's like five
a's like my size five eight. And I watched him
(44:59):
pull this trucker out, his white truck or the trucker
at out of the freaking car. He was like six
maybe maybe six two sixty three, pulled him on the
ground and I was like, nick, I can't say the
n't word right. He said, He was like, nigga, have
you ever mess with my family? I was like, yo,
so I swim My dad roar as a lion, and
(45:20):
the dude was he was jacking him up. My mom
was like, stops. So I'm challenged. I'm channeling my father kind.
Speaker 6 (45:26):
Of character in the show he's very yay.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
I'm channeling that that energy that is really not mine.
It's really my dad's energy. Because I grew up pretty,
you know, pretty pretty cool. You know, I didn't really
have I'm not gonna be like I'm I grew up nice,
but we also grew up running businesses in Detroit. The
church was over here, the shoe store was across the street.
I had to wash the shoe store. I have to
shine the shoes, I had to wash the register. So
(45:52):
that I grew up in the family business. So I'm
I'm challenging. I'm channeling that. The white side you see
is my West Bloomfield, you know, all white neighborhood. I
got both, you know what I mean. That's kind That's
why my jacket probably looked like this. I got I'm
a variation of things, you know what I mean. So
we look forward to seeing you.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
And Chris Webber is the family business as a Christmopher,
call Weber and also when we when you're special, come on, come.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Back up so we can talk about that specially. I
would love to. I'm listen and I'm it's fine. You
give me your honest opinion. I've I've what I would say, I.
I screened it for a lot of people, and it
got it got in a lot of festivals, and it's
my agent said, don't put in the festivals because we
want to present it, you know, a certain way. But
(46:39):
it got a lot of good reviews from a lot
of people that watched it. So actually your opinion actually
counts to me in comedy because I know you're tough,
You're you're you're a tough critic. You're analytical too, so
I can see what you're like watching you know, like
when they bomb and watching people figure it out.
Speaker 4 (46:57):
I love dramedy, drama, dramedy specialist like I love uh.
I think Neil Brennan did a phenomenal job with three mics.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
Yeah he did with that. I love Kevin Hart's last one,
The Reality Check.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yeah, it was good.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
I thought that was really good. And I like Andrew
Schultz new one in Life.
Speaker 4 (47:12):
Yeah Andrew, because he's talking about him and his wife's
difficulty of having a child, but it was his fault. Yeah,
he had the Week's for him and I liked. I
like seeing people process their traumas through comedy.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
My next one's classy Rebel. I want to I want
to talk about. I'm talking about the the world. Man.
I'm just tired of the viewpoints of politics on us.
I thinking like a little political in this next one.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
I remember, I remember you said you hate the fake.
WoT fake?
Speaker 2 (47:38):
I hate the fake. I hate fake revolutions like, if
we gonna do it, let's do it. I don't like
I don't. I don't do fake because I was ready.
I was the only one ready to really ride. That's
why I was ready to go, y'all. I created my
own currency. I was we was going, and nobody came.
I was the only one. You had a whole Yeah,
(48:02):
we had a whole thing. No, it wasn't crypto. It
actually could still work if you do it right.
Speaker 6 (48:07):
But what was it?
Speaker 2 (48:08):
It was called love notes? He remember that love notes.
Speaker 6 (48:11):
Like usher Bucks?
Speaker 2 (48:12):
No, no, no, no, it's not.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
Where do you spend them?
Speaker 2 (48:16):
Well, the infrastructure for it was it wasn't gonna actually
stimulate the American economy and our own economy at the
same time. So it was it was actually, I don't
want to actually give this a weakness. Mandy might try
to do it, but I give enough away. I would
say that because I'm not gonna give you the infrastructure,
but the way it would work, we actually could pay
things forward for people and from their businesses. It was
(48:39):
creating the ecosystem for African Americans without hurting because when
you when you just take your own and say we're
gonna be all stappary, forget that, they always shut that down.
So it was like, how do you barter with all Americans?
How do you barter with uh white Americans? And how
you bortered with because you still got to do business.
So in this case, it was like, let's not be
just fully Marcus guard be in a situation. Let's stimulate
(49:02):
our economy, you know, in our ecosystem, but let's also
take it and out their ecosystem. So it was more
of a coupon system that that paid things forward for
people that created economists called love notes, So it was
selfless sacrifice of love notes. You can you can pay
things forward. And we had a little card and everything
I got, I got the whole financial system to help
(49:23):
the backman everything and then and then.
Speaker 4 (49:26):
I would pay to listen to a full conversation between
you and Terrence Hout. I know you told Terrence I
got the math for that.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
You know what I'm saying, well, he actually does. I
got the math that it actually works too. If you,
if you really it's it's we're actually free. If you really,
if you really know the knowledge of it were we're
actually free. Guys, We're not.
Speaker 3 (49:47):
Really.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
I don't think we're in captivity. I agree, Brandon T. Jackson.
Ladies and gentlemen, we appreciate you for joining us. Thank you, sir.
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, wake that ass up
in the morning.
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