INTERVIEW: Dr. Umar Talks Bunny Hopping, Supreme Court Immunity, The Migrant Crisis, Black Male Unity + More

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Everybody is the j Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the God.
We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest
in the building.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
He's back.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Ladies and gentlemen, Doctor Umar Johnson.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Welcome, brother Peace and Pan Africanism. Good to see you
brothers again.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
How are you feeling it? I'm all right, I'm all right.
You see we got you on the wall over there. Brother,
You ain't even see it.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
You even see itself right there?

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Yes, man, good looking out. You're looking out all right.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
How does doctor Umar feel about being the black boogeyman
for interracial relationship?

Speaker 1 (00:37):
It's good and it's bad. The good side is I
hear from a lot of brothers who have gave up
the bunny hopping. They send me messages in box. They
stopped me at the airport, so I do see the
positive effect. You know, brother, I'm with a queen now,
I see the difference. If I never listened to you,
I would have never really evaluated my behavior. That's the
good side.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Got.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
The not so good side is also get the hate
mail from brothers who I committed to the bunny hopping.
Gotcha right, and they can be very aggressive and their
repudiation of my position. I was at the airport coming
from Atlanta last week, and I don't know what they
be expected, but when I see a brother with his
snow bunny at the airport, it's almost as if they

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expect me to approach them or something like we're going
through security, the brother with the white girl, and they
looking at me like like they wait for me to
swing on them or something. I'm like, bro, it ain't
that the man, Your life is your life. I still
respect you as a human being. I just don't think
your selection is in the best interest to where black
people need to be headed, that's all. But when I
see them interracial couples, man, they look like they're getting

(01:38):
ready for war or something.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, I mean because the things you say. They don't
know what you're gonna say, what gonna come out your mouth,
if you gonna grunt, if you're gonna say something. So
they gotta they gotta repair themselves, right.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
But see the essence of the messages still love though,
So even if I disagree with what you're doing, we
still family at some level, and she's still a human
being regardless. So you know, sometimes they'll come up to
me as a couple and I'll speak to them as
a couple and they may say, what can you explain
why you don't really agree what we're doing, And I'll
do it in a very respectful tone. And I've never

(02:09):
had an issue when we had those conversations. So from
where my perspective is, I'm like, yeah, I'm strong in
my position, but I'm still leading with love. So nobody
should ever feel some type of way about seeing me
in public, although they do.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
I told you I was all the way in zanza Bal.
I sent you the video doctor ball. I was in
Zanzibal and a brother whom zanzer Bal was talking to
me and he was saying how much he like a
lot of the things doctor Wumar said. But he's like,
I just don't understand his position on the snow bunnies.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
It's a contradiction about how you cut the cake. Because
those children who are going to be black, how can
you tell them be black and proud? If you didn't
make them with a black woman, you chose to incubate
your seed in a non African woman. How can you
then turn around and raise those children to be black
and proud, when if you were black and proud, you

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would have chose a black woman to canbate your seed.
Then it doesn't make sense for the descendant of the
slave to be planning his seed in the descendant of
the slave master. Now it's a complete contradiction.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
What do your views? Has your views changed on mixed
people right? Because you know people will say, even if
you have a drop of black blood in you, you're black.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
I do the one parent rule, Okay, So for me,
if one of your parents are black, you're black. Take Drake,
if he identifies as black, full time, he black. And
that's never been an issue for us within the Pan
African movement, going back to the beginning of the time.
We've never rejected the offspring of the union because nobody's
responsible for how they got here. And so that's why
Bob Marley, there's no contradiction for us. A lot of

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our ancestors were of mixed race. Frederick Douglas, who I'm
related to, it's no contradiction because you don't choose how
you come into this world, but you still have the
DNA of Africa within you. But you got to identify
full time. That's where it becomes an issue without Dominican
Republican brothers and sisters, Puerto Rican Africans of Cuban Africans,
because sometimes they will either comempletely reject the African ancestry

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right or they may say, I do have African ancestry,
but I don't not identify as Latino African. I'm Spanish.
You see what I'm saying. Or you look at what
goes on between the Dominican Republic and Haiti that whole
intense A light skin, dark skin, I'm African, you ain't
African type of situation. We repudiate all that you either
black all the time or you black none of the time.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
You know, people think because you have such a love
for black people, that's for whatever reason, that translates to
hate for white folks.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Absolutely not, because if that were true, why do I
get so many requests for help from white parents? Why
do I get so many requests for help from Asian parents?
A raparents they don't have a problem. Text in my
phone saying hey, can I pay this consultation? I need
you to look at my child psychological evaluation. I never
get apprehension from white parents when they need my help
on special education or mental health cases. You see what
I'm saying. So if it were that bad, I would

(04:54):
assume they would not be reaching out to me. They
have no issue reaching out to me, and they don't
go through a filter. They come direct, even the snow bunnies. Listen,
I know how you feel about that. I need help
with my son. He's a white boy, blond hair, blue eyes.
Will you help us pay the fee?

Speaker 3 (05:08):
I got you, And if you hated them, you wouldn't
get off of the help.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Why would I help him at all? You see what
I'm saying. Some of them buy my book too. They say, hey,
I know your book is towards black families, but the
information in there we can use it too.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
So do white parents ever call you and say, hey,
my white son or my white daughter is into this
black boy or black girl and we need to we
want to RaSE him from there. Do they ever call
you for that?

Speaker 1 (05:30):
No? I get the opposite. I'll get the black mother
who say, doctor, Uma, my son is bunny hopping and
it looks like he has a point of no return.
Can you help me out? That's what I get. Do
you have a camp, because I am I need a
camp that's a good idea. What they do bunny hopping recovery.
Bunny hopper is anonymous a camp. I need a camp.

(05:50):
That's not a bad idea, that is a very good idea.
You just gave you an idea. So what they do?
Call you? How do you bring my God? They be
upset like doctor uh, he's taking a white girl to
the prime And I thought that was it. No no, no,
she's living with him in his dorm. No no, no,
they're about to move in together. No no, no, she's pregnant.
Now what can I do? And the first thing I
say to the black mother is are you sure you
did not model love or addiction to whiteness before your son?

(06:18):
Because many of these mothers who have an issue with
this son with the white girl god, blond hair, blind weave.
You see what I'm saying of the green contacts, Like
I'm looking at how you present yourself. You look like
you're trying to be a white girl. So if the
mother is imitating whiteness, why wouldn't the son be attracted
to it? Because your first love affair is with your mother,
not sexually, psychosocially. So therefore, if I see my mother

(06:42):
imitating white women? Are you not indirectly through your behavior
suggesting that I date white females. So I think a
lot of black mothers have to really check themselves with
regard to how they're modeling the fact that they believe
within themselves as a woman that white women are more attractive.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
And I want to ask you some Columbus Shaw says,
since we're talking about that, you said he got some
heat for saying that black men are dating outside their
race because most Black women are raised by single mothers
and absentee fathers and taught a don't need a man mentality.
What are your thoughts on?

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Well, here's what I would say to my brother, Columbus
Short and I'm a fan of his. Are we not
all victims of the systemic oppression and injustice that racism
has introduced into our community? So, just as you have
black women who didn't grow up with their father, you
have black men who didn't grow up with their fathers
or their mothers. In other words, why is it acceptable

(07:36):
for the black man raised by a black woman without
his dad to reject a black woman raised by her
mother without her dad. I think sometimes black men can
be guilty of a double standard where we want a
perfect offering when we ourselves are not a perfect offering.
And to that point, I think black men need to
recognize the fact that one of the reasons we have

(07:57):
so much conflict with black women is because we don't
operate on a masculine platform with our women all the time.
We tend to operate on a female platform, for example,
when the woman gets angry, rather than you trying to
understand your queen nine emotionally. So you can't have both
people in a relationship with a low emotional IQ because

(08:18):
of both people in the home. If you and your
wife both have a low emotional IQ, if you and
your wife both have a low emotional IQ, y'all gonna
argue over everything because nobody says, I am not gonna
emote over this. I'm not gonna deal with this with feelings.
I'm gonna use reason and intelligence. That's what the man
is supposed to do. But guess what we do. Raised

(08:39):
by single mothers, many of us, we reflect right back
to them that emotional trauma that they're throwing on us.
So in essays, you have two females arguing, although one
is in a man's body. Black men have to start
being masculine and less feminine. All this cattiness, this back
and forth between black men and black women on the
internet that is feminine and feminine. Masculinity operate like that.

(09:01):
Masculinity wants to understand where the woman is coming from.
Masculinity wants to then intervene, study himself, evaluate his behavior,
and try to level up to where she needs him
to be. But arguing back and forth with women as
a man, that's anti masculine behavior. What we really needed
some testosterone shots. We need more testosterone because black men

(09:21):
are mimicking female behavior emotionally and they're not even recognizing it.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
I know a lot of women who have high emotional
like yous, who don't get caught up in the petty back.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
And for yes certain yes, sir, But normally more often
than not, it's supposed to be the male. Sometimes the
women does have that, which is good, but that also
speaks to the fact that the women are becoming more
masculinized and the men are becoming more feminized, not in
terms of sexuality, but in terms of personality. The way
that we are engaging each other in the back and

(09:51):
forth male female thing. If we want to get real
basic about it. You're dealing with two traumatized people who
have not healed themselves out. They're trying to make a
healthy relationship. Two unhappy people cannot make a healthy relationship.
It is impossible. You cannot get water from oil. You
can't get oil from water. If she's traumatized because her

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father abandoned her and he's traumatized because his mother chose
her second husband over him, you got to deal with
those unmet childhood issues. Most of us are still dealing
with unmet childhood issues, and we're giving the responsibility to
our partner to heal us from demons that can only
be here with our parents. My wife can't undo what

(10:33):
my mama did. I got to work with my mama.
Your husband can undo what your daddy did. You got
to work with your husband. But because we don't want
to go back into the pain, because we've often eliminated
those people from my lives, we just say, you know what,
I'm gonna have to work on this with my husband.
I'm gonna have to work on this with my wife.
They can be a support for you, but they can't
beat a solution. We have too many spiritual vampires floating

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around the Black community. These are emotionally toxic people who
don't present themselves as they are to the opposite sex.
They present their social self, their psychological mass, and you
don't realize who they really are Envy and Charlotte Maye
until somebody gets pregnant. Y'all moving together, get married, or
get engaged. The whole time y'all were dating, it was perfect.
You said, I've been dating my queen for ten years.

(11:15):
We never had an issue, get married, divorced than six months.
You know why, because once y'all moved in that house together,
your ego no longer wants to lie to her. Your
ego no longer wants to lie to her Charlotte may
and her ego doesn't want to lie to you. So
now you start seeing things that you never saw ten
twenty years when y'all were dating, because in cross proximity,
the ego drops this mass.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Damn doctor Whoma ain't playing the day. Let's get to it.
There's a lot of things to talk about. Do you
think President Biden should step down?

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Do I think President Biden should step down? I got
a couple answers to that. On the one end, Presidents
don't make the final decisions anyway, So because they are puppets,
it really wouldn't matter if he stepped down or not. However,
from an optics perspective, he's showing against Donald Trump, and
that debate didn't look good at all, even though they

(12:06):
only three years apart. Right on the flip side, I'm
not too sure the Democratic Party is ready to anoint
Kamala Harris as quote unquote commander in chief because, as
you know, in the post Barack Obama era, the last
thing poor white America wants to see is another black
person that's commander in chief. So I don't think they
necessarily want to go that route. They don't have to.

(12:28):
There's others as well. But at the end of the day,
both men are extremely up there in age because I
don't want to be a senior shamer if you would, right,
because seniors are just as capable intellectually, many of them
as those of us in our age bracket. At the
same time, there's still the two oldest men to ever
run and rerun for president of the United States. But

(12:50):
you know what, doesn't that also speak to the weaknesses
in both parties. If Joe Biden is the best the
Democratic National Committee has. If Donald Trump is the best
the Republican National Committee has. What is that saying about
the talent y'all incubating?

Speaker 2 (13:03):
So what do you think about, you know, blacks loving
Donald Trump so much, shaking his hand, kissing his kissing
his hand, rubbing his bag, saying we support it.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
What do you think about slave master syndrome, white Jesus syndrome?
We don't care if the white Jesus wears red or blue.
We don't care what side of the owl that they're on.
You know, Black America suffers from battered spouse syndrome envy.
And what batter spouse syndrome speaks to is the fact
that no matter how bad you beat me up, if
I believe I need you in order to survive, I'm

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never going anywhere. And part of our problem, part of
the equation to our problem as American Africans, while we
don't do anything on our own, is we are often
waiting for the great White Savior to come. This is
a message that has been rehearsed for us in church.
We get it in the media, we get it in
the black community. So black people will never ever abandon
their hope of a white savior coming to save them.

(13:55):
Donald Trump has no record whatsoever of saving black folks.
When people ask me who you going to vote for
at this point, neither one of them are going to
get my vote. I considered Courtnel West because I love
doctor West, intelligent, strong, good nature. But he's a bunny hopper,
so he can't get my vote. Now, when I come
back to Donald Trump and Joe Biden, I look at
the fact that Donald Trump signed thirteen federal deaf executions

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while he was president. More than half of them was
signed after Joe Biden won the election. Think about that. Now,
Biden gets elected in November, sworn in January. Between that time,
Donald Trump executes half of those thirteen people. Five of
them were black men, and two of those black men
were presumed innocent and their attorneys had introduced a stay
of execution to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court turned

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them down, and Donald Trump executed those brothers. So when
I hear black men say I'm voting for Donald Trump
because he's going to bring more money in economic vitality
into the black community, I say, what about the fact
that he's out here killing black folks? You understand without
no remorse at all, signing those type of federal death warrants.
Two brothers was murdered within twenty four hours of each other.
One of them was forty years old, and he was

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the first person to be murdered in seventy years for
a crime he committed as a teenager. And in one
of those cases, about six of the jurors said they
would have changed their decision on the death sentence had
they knew the information that the prosecution had withheld from them.
That's why the attorney wanted to stay of execution to
give the defense time to reformulate an argument in Supreme

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Court Snow Bunny Clarence Thomas and that crew said no,
and Donald Trump signed his life away. So you got
to look at that. You also got to look at
the fact that Donald Trump wants to give police one
hundred percent amenity. Wait a minute, look how they're killing
us now. So now you're telling me that anything the
police do in their line of duty, they cannot be
held accountable for making bad mistakes and bad decisions. And

(15:43):
you would have put that back in office. That's thirsty.
Black men worry more about money than the lives of
their people.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
The Supreme Court is corrupt, yes, legitimate, absolutely. How come
enough people not talking about that.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Because I don't think they understand the tripart take nature
of American so called democracy. The Supreme Court, the President
in the Congress, they actually have equal weight. Right, well,
they did. But now, what the Supreme Court just did
was they gave the president a few days ago absolute
immunity from criminal prosecution for decisions made in office and

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carrying out his constitutionally protected duties. That's very dangerous because
what that says is the president can never go to
jail even if he commits genocide if it was done
in an act of office. So let's say, hypothetically, Donald Trump,
but Joe Biden sends the National Guard into New York
to quell a Black protests, and the National Guard, god forbid,
ends up executing a five thousand of our brothers and

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sisters who were protesting peacefully, even though it was ordered
by the President of the United States. He cannot be
held accountable for that. Why because he did it in
discharging his duties as commander in chief. So we don't
long longer have a president. We have an emperor, we
have a czar, we have a King, because what the
Supreme Court just did is said the president is beyond
reproach and the president is beyond the reach of the law. Dangerous.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
I feel like enough people aren't having that conversation. They're
not having that conversation to me, like, I understand, you know,
talking about Biden and his bad debate performance. I get it. Yeah,
I even understand talking about Project two thousand twenty five,
even though it's a hypothetical. But this is happening now, yes,
and nobody.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Has And for black folks, it don't matter if it's
Trump or Biden. The bottom line is the president of
the United States, none of whom have ever been friends
of the black community, will have the ability to do
what they want as long as it takes place within
the execution of duty. They cannot be held criminally liable.
Now here's my thing. I wonder what are the repercussions
of that on the World Court when you're dealing with

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genocide in the Geneva Convention. So are you saying that
the president of the United States cannot be held criminally
responsible for crimes of genocide against humanity? That goes against
the whole Geneva Convention. So I'm wondering what the UN
and what the World Court has to say about the
Supreme Court's decision.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
What are your thoughts on Donald Trump currently and in
particular the agenda that is Project twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
The Project twenty twenty five reminds me a lot remember
the New Gingrich Contract on America back at the turn
of the century. It kind of reminds me of that.
It is very dangerous. But when I look at Project
twenty twenty five, a lot of it is already being
carried out. You fault. So they want to eliminate the
Department of Education. I think we talked about this probably
my first visit to the Breakfast Club, where I spoke

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of how the US Constitution does not give your child
a right to an education. The word education is not
in the constitution. But many people feel like educational taxes
or their taxes that go to education is to burden
some incumbersome and they're saying, why do I have to
pay school tax when a constitution doesn't even give nobody
a right to get an education in the first place,

(18:39):
So why am I paying for this? So a lot
of people want to phase that out. Remember when you
go to White America. Half of White America either don't
have school aged children or don't send them a public
school anyway. So when it completely blot out the school tax,
not only that, the money that still remains, they want
to redirect at the not charter schools, to private schools
and parochial schools, which to my understanding, is a violation

(19:01):
of the separation of church and state. How can you
get public money to the Catholic school? But that's what
they want to do. They also want to shut down
Social Security. They also want to completely eliminate all diversity,
equity and inclusion laws and bills. But I gotta say
this though, because the Democrats are pretty hypocritical, because when
you look at what Governor Desantists is doing in Florida,

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and when you look at the fact that you got
eighteen states that have already passed laws to eliminate all diversity,
equity and inclusion program that's a third right, Why aren't
the Democrats pushing back against it? A governor? Excuse me?
President Biden was reportedly reportedly stated that he will not
push back against the Republican effort to eliminate all DEI programs.

(19:45):
So doesn't that make you complicit in the removal of
the DEI. See what the Democrats do that black people
tend not to catch on is they'll let the Republicans
play the bad guy because they can't afford to lose
the black vote. So although we don't support DEI ourselves,
we're not gonna be the ones to front this. We're
gonna let the Santists and the other Mavericks go out
and do this. But guess what, We're not gonna push

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back against us, So it looks like it wasn't us,
it was you. Because silence in the face of injustice
is complicity. And that's why, as far as I'm concerned,
the Democratic Party and the Republican Party are two wings
on the same bird. And the one question we never have,
when do we going to organize the black vote before
we vote? If you notice, everybody tells us to vote,
the politicians, black businesses, the fraternities, the churches, vote vote vote,

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the Urban League, the NAACP Congressional Black Caucus, vote vote vote.
Why do you think nobody never says organized the black
vote before you vote? So we vote as a block,
so politicians know we're doing this as a people. You know,
why if we voted as a block, Envy, we could
hold people accountable. See if I vote as a block,
I can hold Eric Adams accountable, I can hold Brandon
Johnson accountable. I can hold Kamala Harris accountable because she

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know we went to the post as a people united
and won this. But when you vote as individuals, get cyphrenic,
disorganized black votes. Who you're gonna hold accountable? Envy? The
man could do what he wants. You voted alone. You
didn't link your vote with nobody. What can you do
to me? You said you go to the Joe biddie.
What you're gonna do about police jennercide? What can you
do to me? You voted by yourself. If you notice,
if your political power is all about mass organization, if

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you're not organized, your vote only matters to the person
you're electing. It'll never matter to us.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Why don't you think we have an organization? I was
watching it. I can't remember, but I think maybe Godfree
Godfrey was talking about we just can't organize, even as
organized crime. Like there's the Russian mafia, and there's the
Chinese mafia, there's the Irish mafia, there's the Italy, the
Italian mob. But then we can't organize together. Why do
you think that is legally?

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Yes, you're absolutely right to your issue with crime. Take
the Italian mafia back in their heyday. No women, no children,
no elders. If you kill one, even by accident, we
take your life. That was the rule. But in the
black community, you can hit the eldest, hit the kids,
the pregnant women, no rules, no consequences, self hatred, petty differences,

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and the indoctrination of white supremacy, meaning most black people
feel the only people they need to be accountable to
are whites. They can never answer to a black person.
This is why if you talk to any black supervisor
or black manager, they'll tell you they get more hell
from their black employees than their white ones. Because whenever
we see black authority, we rebel against it because we've
been trained to believe that black people are worthless. And

(22:30):
if you yourself is worthless, how much more worthless will
be your authority over me. Until we do something about
the collective self hate of African people, we will never
change anything else. It is the psychological crutch of self
hate that keeps us where we are. We are two
trillion dollar people. Why be waiting for reparations. Don't get
me wrong, We're entitled to reparations, But why are we
waiting on them with that type of money. It makes

(22:52):
no sense. It's because we do not believe in work
it together. We would rather wait on white supremacy to
change itself before we change ourselves.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
I don't know. So if we can ever reverse the
self hate that we have.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
We can, But you got to start with the children.
Here's the problem. We're raising the children the same way
we were raised. You see that. I look at the
way the Somebody just sent me the video the other
day of three girls stomping out this crossing guard, I
mean stomping her out, tried to kill her. I don't
know what happened, tried to kill her. Right Where do
children get that? Where do they get this thing to
self destruct, crash out on each other. They're taught it

(23:25):
in their homes. And this is why when I first
conceptualized the FDMG academy, I said, I want a residential school.
I don't want them to come home. You know why,
because I know the sickness is in the home. This
is not in your DNA. It's passed down into generationally,
from grandparent to parent, from parent to child. So if
we want a new mindset, if we want a new consciousness,
if we want a new program or platform, you have

(23:46):
to train the children. There's an African proverb that says,
whenever a new black baby is born, that's a message
from God that he hasn't given up on African people yet.
But until we start doing something with the children differently
than what was done with us, nothing will ever change.
It starts with the next generation.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
I see you, you know the Frederick Douglas Marcus Garvey Academy. Yes, sir,
I see you in the building all the time.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yes, sir. They still saying we're the school.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yeah, they're still say everybody knows where you can't miss it.
And you just was asking for something. What was you
just asking for? Uh?

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Somebody to help us with the floors, with the floor
we got we got so last time I was here,
remember I was still struggling with the age vac. Remember that.
So the age vac is done, plumbing is done, all
the systems repaired. That was superficials. We gotta get the
doors done. We got some doors that gotta be replaced.
We got another layer of paints, so we're gonna do
one more paint day. And then we got eleven floors.
When we took the old rugs out, we got to
cover them up right. So in fact, coming here one

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of the good sisters, who sister Jennifer out of Trenton,
shout out to her and her husband. Uh. She has
an uncle who does floor so I'm gonna meet with
him this weekend and see what type of price he
can give. Also some other brothers who do floors, and
the prices wasn't too bad, you know what I mean.
So once we do that last layer of coat and
do them floors, were applying for the certificate of occupancy.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
You think that's gonna be hard to get.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
It could be because in talking with some of the
businesses in the neighborhood, they're telling me that they've had
to wait months before the city came out to do
their inspection. This is what they're saying. I don't know
if it's true. They say, doc, you might got to
wait a minute, and because you are who you are,
they might try to nitpick you too. So I'm just gonna,
you know, hope for the best. You know what I mean,
but cautiously understand that because they never thought we would finish,

(25:24):
this could be a little bit of a push. I
just hope it don't get to the point where I
got to have a protest, you follow me. I hope
it don't get to the point where we got to
drag the city into court for discrimination against us because
they never thought we would finish. And we're done, you
know what I'm saying. And I got to thank y'all
for that because y'all help me get the word out,
you know what I mean. So we there and so
guy Willing, I believe if they don't take forever to

(25:45):
inspect the building, hoping we get these floors done quickly,
we should be able to have our inspection before the
end of the summer.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Are you concerned that some of these negroes, because that's
that's been the only thing they can come at you with, Doctor,
I don't got the school. Now that the school is,
the school is almost done, do you think that some
of these negroes are going to be protesting the most.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yes, because they're not gonna stop now that I'm open.
They got to move the goalposts right sure, Now, it's
how many kids? What is he teaching how many? They're
never going to stop because the motivation is slandered. See,
in the beginning, I thought the motivation was truth. I
thought people who questioned me sincerely just wanted to know,
are you scamming us? And then when I started breaking

(26:25):
everything down and showing them how I'm not scamming them,
and we ain't even spent no money because we ain't
found no contractors, then I realized this ain't about the truth.
This is about slander. Y'all just want to be entertained
at my expense. And so people say, well, why haven't
you been more transparent? I've been too transparent every time
I come up and I think where we at, what
problems we got? You know what I mean? How much
more money we need? This is what we're going through.

(26:46):
In fact, I think I've been too transparent. When we
open up the next school, I'm not going to be
that transparent. Y'all see it when it opens, no matter
how long it takes. But I felt the need to
be transparent because I didn't want to lose my loyal supporters.
Because remember, most of FDMG donors, they are repeat donors.
Very few people have only donated one time. These people
who are questioning me, they've never donated at all, ain't

(27:09):
got children going to the school, don't live nowhere there
will make ting delaware, you understand me. So they're just
doing this for kicks and giggles. The you two being
struggle streamers, they will slander my project. These you two
being struggle streamers, that's what they are YouTube, being struggle streamers.
They will slander my project that get an extra one
hundred views. Literally, you go to they pay. You did

(27:31):
all that for one hundred views, You thirsty struggle streamer.
You see what I'm saying. So my thing is, don't
even feed them, stay focused on the work.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
I was gonna ask you, what were your thoughts on
on Diddy and everything that's going on with Diddy? We
know what he did was horrific?

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yes, or what are your.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Thoughts on everything that's happening with Diddy?

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yes, that's all you said. If Kathy was darkskin, itn't even.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Be I believe that absolutely horrific, indefensible. But the response
from the black community envying Charlottemagne, I believe it's somewhat hypocritical,
and and I say that is forty percent of domestic
abuse victims are Black women. Black women are being beat
on on a regular basis. The femicide rate for black

(28:12):
women is going through the roof. A Black woman is
three times as likely as any other woman to be
murdered by her lover, black or white. Y'all saw what
happened with the sister in Milwaukee. Nineteen year old black sister,
what about a month or two ago, went on a
date with a thirty three year old Caucasian man. He
killed her, dismembered her, spread her body all over the city.

(28:33):
This is recent. And then you had a little seventeen
year old sister down in Kate Carral, Florida. She walking
back from the movies with her two friends, and a
white boy just pull over, gets out the car and
murders in broad daylight. And I ain't got to show
you all the murders of black men what we're doing
to our own women. I just saw one the other
day with a brother killed, as children killed, the woman

(28:53):
killed himself. Those are not typically Black crimes. We don't
normally do that kind of stuff. We don't crash out
like that, But we are now because the spirit foundation
of African people, and the emotional wellness of African people
is beginning to erode because we have bought into the
ideology of material consumption that American capitalism has pushed on us.
And we believe being happy and being whole and being

(29:16):
psychologically healthy means owning and earning. So we equate health
psychological health, which how much do I make and how
much do I earn? And how much do I own?
And that is not the foundation upon which African spirituality rests.
We are a people where relationships are the most important
thing to African people. Relationships, not what you earn, what

(29:39):
you drive, and what you wear. But we bought into
that and as a result of that, we are suffering
from a spiritual famine. We are a spiritually infamished people
and we're not recognizing it. And this is why rich
blacks as well as poor blacks are equally likely to
commit suicide or crash out on somebody else and take
their life. So my thing is, when are we going

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to get back to valuing relationships and people more than
the things that we own. That is a very big
problem with us.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Back to to dittyst.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Back to ditty, It's hypocritical envy, because when I look
at the amount of Black women who are abused in
the community, and I look at the amount of Black
people who turn the other cheek to this. Being a therapist,
I see these things. Black women being abused in the church.
They're being abused in the temple, They're being abused in
the mass JD. They're being abused in the college. Teenage

(30:32):
girls are being abused in their homes by their boyfriends.
So I see all these black people snapping out on Ditty,
as they should. He was wrong. But you didn't snap
out on your son when he smacked his girlfriend up
in front of your face. You didn't snap out on
your brother when he's choked out his fiance. You didn't
even You didn't snap out on your husband when he
snapped out on you. So Diddy can be exposed and

(30:55):
humiliated and shamed and embarrassed, but not the men in
your life. When your son beasts on his wife, when
your uncle, when your cousin, when your frat brother, when
your pastor is guilty of doing the same thing Diddy did,
it gets a pass. But when Diddy does it, he
has to be exposed. I don't like the double standard
that we have I don't like this hypocritical outrage at Diddy,

(31:17):
but we don't see the same thing in the black community.
For example, how many domestic abuse shelters have we opened
since the Cassie Diddy film came out? If with that outrage,
all these single black women being abused with children, right,
how many celebrities or regular Black people have opened up
domestic abuse shelters? How much money have has Black America
donated to the fight against domestic abuse in our community?

(31:41):
Go to the Roman Catholic Church. The Roman Catholic Church
admits to they admit to at least ten thousand incidents
of sex abuse against children involving over forty three hundred
pastors or priests since nineteen fifty. From nineteen fifty to
twenty twenty two, between ten and eleventh incidents of child sex

(32:01):
abuse forty three hundred priests. Can I ask you a question,
if what did he did is so bad, why do
we still have three million African American Roman Catholics? If
we are against abuse, Help me understand how this is
wrong but molest than our kids are not.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
I tend to see people care more about issues when
celebrities are attached and it makes me feel like they
don't even care about the issue, they just care about it.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yes, the celebrities, I absolutely agree. I absolutely agree. And
to your point that you raised earlier, if that was
Lizzo and not Cassie, are we having this conversation if
that was Lizzo, if that was a full figured chocolate
African queen, doesn't even make the media. And then the
other thing fellas.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Big Lizzo, Yes, because she's a celebrity.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Got you. But if it's just a regular four figure
chocolate right, And I do believe Cassie's complexion plays a
role in this because we do have a light skin
supremacy issue in the black community. We also got dark
supremacy issues as well. But if she's not a mixed race,
light skinned sister and not a celebrity, this ain't this
ain't no issue. This ain't no issue, you know because
even in religion, I've seen pastors and emams condone violence

(33:07):
against women. You know what I mean? You know? So
I think the Black community got to stop being hypocritical.
If we're really against domestic violence, let's do something against it.
Because I raally hear celebrities, I raally hear civil rights leaders.
I really hear business leaders talk up and out against
the domestic abuse of black women. And when black women
get domestically abused, it's twice as bad, you know why,

(33:29):
because one that being psychologically harmed, right, and then number two,
they can't go to the police because they're gonna be
treated like an animal. This is what y'all people do.
They can't go to the domestic abuse shelters because white
people gonna look at them like they less than trash.
So the black woman suffers in silence. And on top
of that, what in most states, domestic abuse is a felony.
I can't afford to send my children's father to jail.

(33:50):
And then when they say, why daddy ain't here because
I told, because I turned them in. So it's very
complicated when you're dealing with black women and domestic abuse.
And then add to that envy and Charlotte Mane in
fact that most black women don't have a strong social network,
They don't have sisters that they can rely on because
those sisters are so insecure about their relationship with their
man that you can't come take the spare room in

(34:11):
my house, You can't come take the basement, you can't
come take the Airbnb because my husband might start developing
eyes for you. So you got to stay in that
house and keep getting your head beating by that man.
Even though I'm claiming to be a born again Christian,
even though I'm claiming to be the most devout Muslim
of all time, even though I'm claiming to be the
top Hebrew in my community. I'm gonna let your husband
keep banging your head in because I'm not gonna risk

(34:32):
my husband sniffing for your cookies.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Damn, what are your thoughts? I got so much stuff
on to ask you. What do your thoughts in the WNBA,
in particular the Kaitlyn Clark angel reaches battle.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
For Here's the thing my thoughts on Kaitlyn Clark and injuries.
First of all, must respect the Caitlin Clark because to
her credit, I don't feel she came into the WNBA
acting like she was the savior. I did not get
that from her. I mean I got from the white
powersh structure, the snow bunny mafia of the WNBA that

(35:03):
they tried to make her the face of the league
before she proved herself, and in doing that, they're overlooking
black female athletes who are much better than Caitlyn Clark.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
I mean, you got.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Ajian Wilson for the Los Angeles Aces. This is the
first woman in WNBA history to score thirty five points,
grab ten rebounds, and get five steals. So baby, you
see what I'm saying. So my thing is, how do
you jump to Caitland Clark and overlook Ajia Wilson, a
two time WNBA MVP. The Aces? They just won the
last two championships. They sell out almost every other game,

(35:36):
but the entire media's attention is on Kitlan.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Clark, Prodigia, Don Staley.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Prodigia at North Phillies down Stealey absolutely twenty second in
dominant right. So when I look at even when we
go back to the Lady Game Cocks, they won the championship,
and all the attention with the Kitlyn Clark they had
a near perfect season, only lost three games in three years.
Caitland Clark gets all the attention since win absolutely and
they was undefeated last year. Since when have you seen

(36:02):
the losing team get more attention in the winning team?
And then Gail King oprah sidekick. She gets on the
interview with Don Staley and says, what were you thinking,
because we were all rooting for Kitland Clark and Iowa.
Iowa got what less than two percent Black students who
was voting for Iowa, who was rooting for Caitlyn Clark.
We wasn't wishing her no harm, but we was rooting
for Don Stelley and then Lady Gagcox. The reason I

(36:24):
started watching NCAA basketball again because I had a long hiatus,
is because of Dawn Staley and then Lady Game Cox,
not because of Kitlyn Clark and not because of nobody else.
So I felt like Dawn Staley and the Lady Game
Cox were shamed, were shamed because they didn't abow down
to Caitland Clark and give her the white privilege. The
year before when they beat the Lady Game Cox en

(36:46):
route to losing two angel rees and lsu anybody who
saw the game, so the referees gave it to him.
They ripped them off. But of course Don Stelly couldn't
say that right because they she'd be accused of playing
a race card. But if you saw the game, they
got cheated. So they did everything they could to make
Caitlyn Clark the great White Savior. She's not there yet
I think she's gonna be a great player, right, I
think she's gonna have a tremendous legacy. But she's not
a top ten player in the league. Now you take

(37:08):
to look at Angeries. She's the first player in WNBA
history to get thirteen straight double doubles, not rookie period.
You see what I'm saying. So it's going to be
interesting when it comes down to the Rookie of the
Year because you know they want to give it to
Kitlyn that's that snowbunny privilege. But look at what Anger
Reese is doing. I could probably settle for a cold
rookie like they did with a Jason Kidd in Grant Hill.
I can settle for a cold rookie, but you're not

(37:30):
gonna give it to Caitlin Clark and try to ex
out Anger Reese. And I hate the fact that they
tried to make Anger Reice the bad guy. And I
hate the fact that so many of our brothers in
the sports world kind of parodied the narrative of the
WNBA and charge the black women of the WNBA with
being jealous of Caitlin Clark. Y'all jealous of all these
attentions and then you had other brothers who say, well,

(37:51):
she's the reason, y'all got flights. Now she's the reason this.
How is she the reason when Asia Wilson was doing
what she was doing before she got there, and there's
other women who was doing what she was doing before
she got there. Nobody's jealous of Caitlyn Clark. They're angry
at the racism and the double standard that they are witnessing.
You can't expect black women of the WNBA, with all

(38:12):
the hell that they catch, to sit there and watch
someone who is not as good as they are be
elevated to a level that they were never put at.
It's not fair. It's not jealousy. It's an anger because
even at this level of society and professionalism and athletics,
I still have to play second fiddle to the white girl,
even when she's not good enough.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
I haven't seen you hand out lashes. In a minute,
I'm gonna have to start giving them out, though.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
What's your thoughts on Steven A.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Smith some I was talking to somebody the other day.
I didn't see what did Stephen They say about OJ?
Something about O. J. Simpson.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
He was upset.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
I believe that him Okay had him in the in
memori im package. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
My view on my brother stephen A. Smith, I vacillate
because one minute he'll say something that I say, good,
like when they gave Steve Nash the Brooklyn Nets coaching
job and he said, no black man gets that job
with no experience, and you're gonna coach k D. Kyrie
and James Harden. No black man gets that good job,
stephen A. And then he'll go right back and do

(39:17):
something cooonish like this. If B. E. T. Wants to
honor OJ, let them ironor OJ. White people honor white
people who are guilty of things right, And let us
be clear. Did not OJ get acquitted. He was found innocent,
So stephen A. If OJ Simpson was found innocent for
the murder of Anna the Cole Smith, I believe the

(39:38):
name was what was the name.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Mur nic Nicole Brown?

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Right, forgive me forgetting the name wrong. But if he
was found innocent in a court of law, how can
you come back, stephen A. Smith thirty forty years later
and say B. E. T was wrong for honoring the
man when he was found innocent in court. So you're
parroting a white supremacist narrative. I need stephen A to
pick aside and stay on it because he floats back

(40:04):
and forth. Now, to his credit, at least he does float.
Some of them don't even float. They go hard on
a white supremacit narrative and stay there, Steve and they
go back and forth. I need him to pick a
side because every time I'm proud of him, like stephen
A did a good job that they breaking this down
from a racial standpoint, to go right back to Coonan.
So I just need him to pick a side and
stay on it because I don't know where he stands.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
God bless it dead. But some people would say, well, now,
doctor wom A, you defending a bunny hopper and OJ.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Great question. I'm not defending the bunny hopping aspect of OJ.
I'm defending the fact that OJ Simpson is a black man.
And when I'm dealing with issues of black men or
black people, what they do to one of us, they
can do to any of us. And that's why when
I look at Jonathan Major's situation, if you would he
had no business bunny hopping. But does that mean Hicks's

(40:52):
career should have been destroyed over that incident absolutely because
she had a cut on the finger and a cut
behind the ear or something like that. So he gets
his whole career destroyed, even though we saw on TV
he ran from the white girl, ran from the white girl.
And I don't know if you saw what his lawyer said,
Jonathan Mayor, Major's lawyer said, he got convicted not necessarily

(41:14):
and I'm paraphrasing not necessarily because he abused her, but
in defending himself from her abuse, he was too aggressive.
What the hell is that? And they found that she
was guilty of abuse, but the prosecutor said they didn't
have enough information to charge her. Look at that. So
she walks and he gets his career destroyed. That's a
damn shame. Even though he's guilty of bunny hopping. I

(41:37):
don't want to see that happen to any black man
because that could happen to me under other situations or
circumstances that don't involve a white woman. So even if
he's a bunny hopper, I still got to separate that
out and look at how the impact of this case
can affect all black men.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
And when the adults about the power that Lebron has
in the Lakers' organization because you brought him. Steve national
Y had no experience. When you see Lebron he gets
his son drafted and the hiring of JJ Reddick, who's
never coached anywhere. Absolutely, what are your thoughts on that.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
I'm disappointed in Black America because I feel like they're
attacking Bronni more than JJ.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Agree with you.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
How the hell is Bronnie James getting all this heat
from Black America but JJ Reddick ain't getting all the sea.
JJ Reddick and never won nothing. He ain't went nothing
in college, He ain't win none in the NBA, he
won no MVP. I don't know if he was ever
a first team offense or defense, maybe once or twice,
but he clearly don't have the record of a Sam Cassell.
Sam Consell should have been offered that Lakers job, and,

(42:35):
if not the Lakers job, one of the coaching vacancies.
Look at all these good black assistant coaches out there
who are being overlooked for white privilege. JJ Reddick did
not earn that position. They gave it to him. But
rather than attack that, we gonna attack the nineteen year
old kid. I want Lebron to play with his son,
because the optics of that I think will be very
positive for young black males, and I think it could

(42:55):
be a small motivation for black men to do more
with their sons and more with our So I want
to see Lebron and Bronnie on the same court. With
one disclaimer. If I don't catch Bronnie James bunny hopping,
no damn more because it be bunny hopping, I'm not
supporting them. Bronnie James, I love you, young man, but
if I catch you bunny hopping, I'm done with you.
You're not gonna be a role model bunny hopping. But

(43:16):
outside of that, I want to see Lebron and his son, right,
you want to see that. That's a good thing. Lebron
does so much for basketball and the league. He's not
the goat, that's Kobe and Mike, but he done so
much for basketball in the league. He deserved that. Why
I hate on that, and that's that blackmail jealousy. A
big problem we have as black men is we don't
like to see each other win. And the reason why
we don't like to see each other win is because

(43:37):
we operate in that European psychological mode of domination and
control over everything. See when I see y'all, I see
I and I my roster far and our brothers who
I'll be with possibly for Garvey Day and Jamaica next month.
They say, I and I, I and I means that
when I speak, I'm speaking as you and I. When
you speak, you speaking as me and you. When you hurt,
I heard, when you struggling, I'm struggling. I A It

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is oneness. But we got so much competition amongst us
as black men that when we see one win, we
don't think nobody else can. And you know where that
comes from the plantation. Back on the slave plantation, with
the manumission laws, the slave master could only free a
couple slaves a year. So if you got a plantation
of five hundred, all of us want to be free,
but only one can. Do you know what that automatically does.

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That sets us up as rivals, That sets us up
as competitors, and that mindset of believing that only one
black person can make it at the time is the
reason why you get so much hate. It's the reason
why you get so much hate. It's the reason why
I get so much hate, because we have been conditioned
to believe that if DJ Envy is winning on the
breakfast Club, I can't win somewhere else. If Charlotta Magne
is winning on the breakfast Club, I can't win somewhere else.

(44:44):
If Doctor Umer opened up his own school in Delaware,
I can't open up one somewhere else. There's enough room
for all of us to win. So why did we
get so jealous? Because we've been conditioned to think that
the minute we get one winner, everybody else gotta loose.
And that's what breeds the envy and the hate and
the competition. We are not call ocasions. We are not Europeans.
That's the way we are united. We stand divided. We
thought it's all about I and I, not me and

(45:06):
you black men. Got to get back to oneness.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
But want to say, because you said something about Brownie
that was interesting. You said, Bronnie, I can't remember how
you worded it. Just now you say you can't be
a hero if he's Bunny.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Hop You can't be a hero if your Bunny Hopper.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
But Kobe, God blessed the dead right both named No.
I didn't call them role models. I called them the
goats of basketball. Okay, Okay, I can't. And Kobe is
my personal goat. I think he's the greatest basketball player
of all time. I can't hang his picture up in
the Frederick Douglas Marcus Garvey Academy, damn, because you bunny hopped.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
I think Eddie Murphy, I'm gonna say he's a close
second to Richard Pryor. But Eddie's so talented he may
have trump Richard. But guess what, Eddie and Richard are
both bunny hoppers.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
And he got black laby mamas two though.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
I know, But his wife is I don't know.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
I think I don't even if you're married, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Well, that last one he was with, she was you
see Dave Chappelle, I love him for as human. Dave
Chappelle ain't married to a black woman. His picture can't
go up in my school. I love him, I like him,
but I can't hold you up as a role model
because in order for you to complete that role model process,
your queen got to look like your mother. You see
what I'm saying, And so I can't hold them up.

(46:17):
I can respect them. I could like him, but a
role model meaning black men, is to come in your
image in your steady, in your path. I can't do that.
And that's why I'm hoping Broni James does a bunny
hot because he's going to get a lot of his
father's cachet. Until Lebron's credit. He married Savannah, a beautiful
African queen. I need Bronni to do the same thing.
And if I could talk to Lebron and Savannah, I
want to know why he took a snow bunny to
the prom. I guess because Lebron took a snow bunny

(46:39):
to the prom. But I need Lebron and Savannah to
work that. I because I love y'all as a great
black fell.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
School.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Why did somebody send me a picture of Lebron with
a white girl? This is the other day they said
he took a white girl to the pro.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
I'm pretty sure he took Savantage to the pronce. I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Well, maybe he won on the white girl's prime. Maybe
he took Savannah maybe one of the white girl's prime.
But somebody said he took a white girl to the prom,
so I got to investigate that. But yeah, no bunny
hopping black queens forever.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Nobody never said they said they just sent me on
a tech. They said, Eddie Murphy is not married just
as girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Okay, let me why is she? What is she?

Speaker 2 (47:12):
She's Caucasian. See she's Caucasian. Eminem, Yes, can't be the
goat because he's white.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Is with Eminem? Cannot be the goat because he's white.
First of all, my perspective on this issue is not
about Eminem. I gotta make this clear. It could be anybody.
You follow what I'm saying. You could put Maclin Moore
in the conversation or MC search no Caucasian, Arab, East Indian, European, Jew, Latino,
no non African can be the best of anything that

(47:41):
is African, because that is our culture and you never
relinquish control over your culture. So he could be a
great lyricist if they were to say he's one of
the best lyricists of all time. They can say that
if they want. But you ain't no goat. You don't
put a white person over something that we created that
has roots going to all way back to ancient Kimmit
and you're gonna give it over to a Caucasian. That's

(48:03):
not fair. You do not do that. There's too many
black MC's who are better than Eminem lyrically, who if
you're going to go goat status, you need to consider.
But Eminem and a lot of them who are saying
this are only saying this because they're hoping Eminem throw
them some money, throw them a cameo. I don't think
they're really speaking out of their truth. I think they're
speaking out of their desperation to get put on by Eminem.

(48:23):
But I was very disappointed and seeing all these black
males come out against me and defense the Eminem. I
think they're all went the law school overnight and got
a law degree because they put on some of the
best soliloquies I've ever seen. And I ain't gonna call
they names, but I'm disappointed, and because some of them
are like, they're my favorite artists, right, And I'm like,
come on, bro, you don't feel the need to protect
your culture from nobody. And I'm seeing them defend Eminem

(48:44):
without his requestsut without a requirement, without being paid. And
you know what bothered me, I've never seen none of
them rappers who defended Eminem against me. I've never seen
them defend black women like that in public. I've never
seen them speak out against domestic violence like that. I
never seen them speak out of disrespect towards Black women
in public. So you will go to war for a
white man. Here we go white Jesus syndrome again. I

(49:06):
gotta defend my savior. You'll go to war for Eminem,
You'll go to war for Caitlin Clark, You'll go to
war for JJ Reddick, and you'll never lift your voice
up to protect a black woman in public.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Kendrick Lamar Vus Drake.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Here's my issue with Kendrick Lamar Versus Drake. First of all,
shout out to Kendrick. I think he's one of the
more socially progressive rappers.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
I don't see him worshiping materialism like so many of
the rest of them do. I like Kendrick and what
he brought those brothers together to celebrate without any violence,
the whole community loving it. I thought it was beautiful.
Shout out to Kendrick. But Kendrick, I need you to
keep that same energy when it's time to fight against
gentrification in Los Angeles because Black people are being displaced

(49:48):
in extreme numbers in Los Angeles, Compton, South Central, Long Beach,
all in that area. So don't just bring out people
together to party and then support your beef with Drake.
Bring them the gather the protest, to march, and to
organize against gentrification. Because there is a Mexican bourgeoisie, white
bourgeoisie click in LA that is working together against Black people.

(50:11):
I'm gonna say the Mexicans and the Caucasians, not as
a group, but their elites and their leaders are clicking
up and working against Black people in Los Angeles County
and surrounding areas to push us out the neighborhood. Black
incarceration rates in California are some of the highest in
the country. Kendrick Lamar, why don't we organize against that?
We see organized to hire some of our young people,

(50:33):
organize the build a school, organized to build a hospital.
I like what he did, but don't tell me you
only did that to celebrate the beef. You understand. Use
those brothers, bring them back together and achieve something systematically
to help our people out. Same thing. Go for Drake.
You and Canada. Black people in Canada struggling. I got
a lot of supporters in Canada. We talk all the time.
I be going to Canada next month or maybe three

(50:56):
months from now, but nonetheless they catching the same hell miseducation,
mass incarceration, gentrification, police genocide, economic of park time. Drake,
Are you thinking about building the school, drake? Are you
going to open up a supermarket? Drake? Are you going
to open up a farm and teach these young kids
how to farm? Same thing for Kendrick Lamary. I got
the money to do it. I'm not pocket watching. But
don't bring those people together just the party. You got
to bring us together to do something, because what you're

(51:17):
doing is you're playing on people emotions. Black people see
crips and bloods coming together. Shout out to both of them,
piecing it up, working together and joining themselves with Kendrick.
That was good. We need the social we need a break,
we need a release. But brother, we also need political progress.
We also need economic structure. We also need social progress.
So don't just limit it to that. Take it to
the next level. And I do got to say this

(51:37):
on that note of the whole eminem being the goat.
You got to have boundaries around your culture. When I
saw Rick Ross got swung on by that Caucasian, that
bothered me because here you have a black artist being
swung on by a Caucasian who also believe was an artist,
but it was over to Drake Beef. We have allowed
nine Africans to get so comfortable in our culture that

(51:59):
they would step to an artists and swing on him
in the name of a beef that is all black,
that ain't got nothing to do with them, and feel
completely comfortable swinging on a black artist. That should not
be acceptable. Not all black. Say that again, what do
you mean.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
Because Drake is not all black? He's half black.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
Well, there's really no such thing as half He's a
black man with a white mother. But to what I understand, Well,
and I guess this is controversial because I believe Drake
always identified as black. That's what I saw. I don't
follow him heavy, but that's what I saw. I'm hearing
people say he didn't necessarily it was cosplay.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
It was it was cosplay, meaning that he was pretending
to imitate Black American culture in order to Drake Drake.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
I saw that. Now, when when was that in his life?
It's not acceptable? But was that recent? Was he a kid?

Speaker 3 (52:44):
I think mostly when he became a rapper. As you've
seen him evolved, You know what I mean, because you
remember the originally they had the video where he had
the bar mitzvah in the video. Okay, he was just
a cool Jewish kid.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
But he was always okay, so he.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
Never claim to be black American though, I never heard
that from Drake.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
Okay, but I know if he ever said I'm mixed race,
I'm not black, I'm mixed race.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
I've never heard.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
He's always claimed his Jewishness.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Always, Yes, He's always he's always claimed.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
That, yes, Okay, So he's always been unapologetic about the Jewishness, absolutely,
but not necessarily unapologetic about being black. I haven't heard that,
But then he needs to clarify. I wouldn't need Drake
to clarify that for me. You think I think he's.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
Been black, but he's also said that he's Jewish.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
I don't have a problem with him saying that because
he don't have to renounce his mother to be a
black man. You follow what I'm saying. But I need
him to be unapologetic about his blackness. And if he's
more unapologetic about being Jewish then he is about being African,
then I can't consider him one of us. He got
to clarify that for me, right I'm working from the
assumption that he's made it clear that I'm black, and

(53:51):
I know that's who I am. If he ain't made
that clear, then I need some answers from Drake, which
means Kendrake is justified in his crier. Not like us.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
He told Kendrick. He said, Yo, you you always rapping
like you want to set the slaves tree. Drake said that, yes,
one of the disc records.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Oh yeah, man, that's why Kendrick said on his record, No,
once upon a time we all was in change. Yes,
Homeie still double down calling us some slaves. Yes, that's
why he said that in response to what Drake said.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
I didn't know Drake. Oh man, Oh no, okay, I
got the table this one. I got some research to do. Drake,
hit me up. If this is wrong. I need clarity,
my brother. I need clarity. Now. I understand where Kendrick
came from. But my thing again with Kendrick lov him
likingim take this to another level. You have that type

(54:44):
of influence amongst our people where you can bring opposing
parties together, have fun and enjoy themselves. Let's build something
with that in itg We can't stop with partying. We
have to pro create another thing.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
Kendrick said. He said he didn't want to hear Drake
say say the word nigga no more. And you were
on Little Yachti's a Safe Place podcast and you said
that the use of the n world should be outlawed
because the PTSD absolutely traumatic slavery.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
Malcolm Jamal Warner was up here. He feels the same way.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
So yes, nobody should be using it. Because when I
call you an ni doublega, you don't you never met
me before. And Charlotmagne said, hit come on, or Emmy said,
hit come on. Are you expecting to see a lawyer,
a doctor, a business owner when you get the prefix
niwga or are you expecting anything positive to walk through that door? No?

(55:33):
You see, so the word does not have a positive connotation.
And here's the bigger question. Why are we trying to
rescue the most racially offensive and derogatory term ever used
in the history of mankind. You don't see European Jews
trying to rescue of the pejorative terms used against them.
You don't see Latinos doing that. You don't see Asians
show me and other people who are fighting for the

(55:53):
right to use the most dehumanizing label in history to
refer to each other in a social space. It speaks
to the self hate. It speaks to the fact that
we do feel inferior to other people. Because if I
didn't feel inferior, there's no way in hell I would
fight for the right for for envy to call me that.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Damn. I got a few more questions Philadelphia, Well, just
in general, what do you think about school choice? Because
we saw what happened in Pennsylvania recently, where's been upset
with z because jay Z decided him and Rock Nation
decided to be a benefactor to this school choice.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
Did he change direction? Because I don't think he really knew.
He's not an educator, so I think Sean Carter thought
he was doing something positive. Yes, did he change direction
or did he say I'm staying with this initiative.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
I'm not sure?

Speaker 1 (56:39):
Yeah, Okay, I'm wondering to he should change direction? Mister Carter.
Remember we met back in nineteen ninety seven Pricillo Gymnasium,
Millersville University. That was me. Oh, anyway, we brought him
to the Spring Flame concert, him and KRS one back
when I was BSU president. Anyhow, I do not support
school choice. I'm gonna tell you why DJMV and Charlotta

(57:00):
Mane a millionaires doctor Umar is not DJ and Envy
hypothetically got multiple children. So if school choice is going
to give them ten thousand dollars per child, you good
with that? You know why you can pay the other
thirty thousand for your four children's private school tuition. I can't.
I'm a working class brother raising four kids on my
own pup. If New York City public schools give me

(57:20):
ten grand, or Philadelphia Public schools give me ten grand,
or Newark, New Jersey public schools give me ten grand,
I still got to come up with the other thirty.
I still got to come up with the other twenty.
My point is school choice only benefits middle and upper
middle class Black families. Most of our kids are raised
by who they mother sixty seven percent. Fifty percent of
all homeless families are Black women and their children fifty percent,

(57:42):
which is why I got to get on Area Adams
of Brandon when we get to the migrant crisis. But
my point is this, how does school choice benefit poor parents?
How does it benefit working class I'm barely paying my mortgage,
and you see the price of everything has went up, everything, food, utilities, rent.
How am I going to pay all these bills as
a single black mother raising sixty seven percent of our

(58:03):
kids and still find money to offset the cost of tuition.
It's not realistic. School choice is a scam. It makes
poor people think that we're gonna give you an opportunity
to sing a child to a better school, although we
know you can't pay the balance. It's a scam. I
do not support school choice. Another thing, don't forget about
black boys. Dj Nvy hypothetically DJ Envy's son is a

(58:25):
problem child. Charlemagne daughter is a problem child. Even though
y'all can afford the tuition, you got a problem. You
know why, because the Catholic school can accept who they want.
The private school can accept who they want when they
see all them pink slips in your son's record, when
they see all those pink slips in your daughter's record.
Even though y'all can afford it, even though y'all celebrities,
they gonna say get out of here, and there's nothing
you can do. Because they independent or they parochial, they

(58:46):
can operate like that public schools gotta take everybody, not
the independent schools. So here's my question, where are all
the black kids nobody want going to go? Once New
York City becomes a complete school choice district. You see
that with shutting down public schools. Find a private or
front a private or parochial school HICCO ten K. But

(59:07):
nobody wants your son where he going to go? You
see what I'm saying. You're basically going to create a
massive black male high school dropout academic epidemic. It's not
like we don't have one, but it's gonna be mushroomed
because nobody has to take your child. So all these
ady h D boys, ed D oppositional, intermittent, explosive, riddling
adderall concerto cyclerk meade, who want them? Because remember, the

(59:30):
private schools don't have to have special at Catholic schools
don't have to have special let they ain't got no
special class for that emotionally disturbed boy. Who gonna take them? Nobody?
It's the quickest way to destroy the futures of black boys.
I do not support school choice. It's a Republican scam.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Now let's go to the migrant issue.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
Yes, sir, which everybody wants to label. Whenever you talk
about what the black activists in Chicago are going through,
or whenever you talk about what black people here in
New York are complaining about, they'll say, that's maga messaging.
How is it maga mess It's not an American message.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Listen. The bottom line is when Joe Biden got elected,
he said he wanted to fast track four million undocumented
residents to full citizenship. Black people completely ignored it. I
spoke on it. I said, do you know why he
won a fast track four million? Because he know he's
not gonna do nothing for us. We ain't going to
be motivated to vote for him November. So what he's

(01:00:22):
going to do is have these migrants already set up
with citizenship so they can replace the black vote that
he loses. The migrants are being put in our communities
on purpose, New York and Chicago on purpose because they
are what the two blackest cities in America, they are
the two largest cities in America. They're the two most
politically conscious black communities in America. So if we can

(01:00:43):
wash out the black with the brown in New York,
if we can wash out the black with the brown
in Chicago, Philly, don't stand a chance, Atlanta, don't stand
a chance, La Houston, Dallas, Detroit, Chicago, don't stand a chance.
The migrants are here for three reasons. Replace us at
the post, replace us at the low, low end industry jobs. Right.
See when Donald Trump said during the debate that Joe

(01:01:05):
Biden is taking black jobs and giving them to migrants,
he was correct, although he didn't say it because he
cared about us, But he's right. When people say, what
do he mean by black jobs, get out your bougie
feelings and deal with the reality. One third of black
men have a felony, so there's a lot of jobs
they will never qualify for. They are mostly what essential workers, warehouse, trucking, security,

(01:01:27):
and a lot of those jobs are going to who
the migrants. So that's what he meant by black jobs.
We got to stop being so sensitive and look at
the reality of it. I was reading a report the
other day they said the Latinos take it over, his
taking over the construction jobs, they taking them over, and
the low industry work like you're guarding in your landscaping,
completely taking it over. They're not the enemy. The problem

(01:01:49):
is black people don't get as much opportunity. So then
people say, well, you know, white people don't really like
brown people like that. That's true, but you know what
the difference is, they don't have the burden of accountability
with them that they had with us. We built the country,
So every time they look at us to deal with us.
The bottom line is y'all brought them here and they
built y'all into what y'all are. They don't have to
say that to the Venezuelans. They don't have to say

(01:02:10):
that to the Colombians, they don't have to say that
to the Mexicans. So although they don't like brown, they
will much rather deal with them than the black because
with the black, that is a white man's burden that
you owe him restitution for two hundred and forty six
years of unpaid labor. Now let's look at what Aery
Adams is doing over there in New York. A family
of Ford is getting fourteen hundred dollars a month. Fourteen
hundred dollars a month. Do you know that that's more

(01:02:32):
than what some of the veterans are getting With the child,
they're getting more money than veterans who served in the military.
Not only that, they getting free food, steps, free childcare,
and permanent housing. Although New York City has a black
homelessness rate no less than thirty five percent. So you
got black people who pay taxes living on the street,

(01:02:52):
and you got migrants who ain't paid a single tax
in their life, eating and living better than the black
people who built the country. If I was talking to
Eric Adams and Brandon Johnson of Chicago, I would ask
them something, what are the Democrats? What is the Democratic
Party giving you guys that you're willing to sacrifice your
political future to push this migrant agenda because I don't
see how they get reelected by black folks. I don't

(01:03:14):
see how. And if your city goes to the migrants,
you could best believe the migrants ain't elected a black
person to mayorship. So you're literally dying on your sword
for the Democratic Party. Do you know that New York
City has spent one and a half billion dollars on
the migrant crisis so far. It's projected that this year
so twenty twenty three was one and a half billion
dollars to take care of Mike one and a half

(01:03:35):
billion twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five, they said
it will cost New York City nine billion. Chicago has
spent about three hundred and fifty million dollars this year
on the migrant crisis, and that's expected the quadruple. And
you know what was so disrespectful about Chicago with regard
to Brandon Johnson. Remember all them schools they shut down
in Chicago because they said they couldn't afford to operate them.

(01:03:57):
They opened them up. Not only did they open them up,
they rented, they renovated them, turned them into apartments for migrants.
So you sleep upstairs, go to school downstairs. How is
it that you ain't got money for jobs for black people,
which is a big reason why you got so much crime.
You got all these homeless black people in Chicago. But
you can take care of the migrants before you take
care of black people. And that's why I'm hoping that

(01:04:18):
Black Chicago organizes just like co founder of the Black
Panther Party Bobby Seal did at the nineteen sixty eight
Democratic National Convention in Chicago. Bobby Seal turned up and
turned it out with the Black Panthers. I hope Chicago
doesn't let President Biden and Vice President Harris come there,
because you know, the Democratic National Convention is in Chicago

(01:04:39):
August nineteenth through August to twenty. First, I hope Black
Chicago don't let the Democrats come to your city where
they have bred this migrant crisis and y'all don't do
nothing about it. And I'm gonna tell you else these
to stand up and show out Milwaukee even though they
don't have a migrant crisis like Chicago and New York.
The Republican Convention is in Milwaukee next Monday. This's coming Monday.

(01:05:00):
And guess what, Milwaukee black people are the largest ethnic group.
Unlike Chicago is white hispanic black, Milwaukee is black, white Hispanic.
But guess what, Milwaukee has one of the worst Black
male graduation rates in America. So I'm hoping that Black
Wisconsin goes to that Republican National Convention and exercise their
First Amendment rights to peacefully assemble in protests. But don't

(01:05:21):
let them come to your city after causing all these
problems and let them leave without them hearing from you.
They are replacing US America. If they can do it,
They're gonna purge black people with brown Why do you
think the New York regents. Did you see that They
said they're gonna stop requiring the regents examination to get
your high school diploma in New York? Is it that convenient?

(01:05:42):
All of a sudden, we get a migrant crisis in
New York and now you don't have to pass through
regions no more. You know why, because we got to
make sure the migrants take all the jobs from black folks.
They're already taking over the social services. They dominated the
social services. And you black and hungry and need some
food too late. The migrants got it. Same thing in Chicago.
You black and hungry, we need some food, needed job,
the migrants got it. I'm trying to understand how Eric

(01:06:04):
Adams and Brandon Johnson can hand out all these work
permits when you got all these unemployed black men, half
of black men in New York unemployed, half of black
men in Chicago unemployed, but you got migrants getting jobs.
You're holding job fairs for migrants, you're giving out a
job passes for migrants. And you know, because of the
election fraud, if you got a work permit, it ain't
that hard to get a voting registration permit. But I
got a question for Eric Adams did y'all see He

(01:06:25):
said that he was thinking about staffing the pools during
the summer with migrants because they're good swimmers. Right, forty
of black teens fifteen to twenty four that age group
are unemployed in New York. Mayor Eric Adams, how you
going to give the lifeguard jobs to the migrants when
half your black kids ain't got no job. Don't you

(01:06:46):
think you should start with the children that are black
people who pay taxes. I really don't understand them too.
I do kind of feel sorry for them.

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
I don't think like black people can't swim. He's buying
into that stereotype.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
Put some money out there, We're going to swim. But
my thing is, I know they know what they're doing
isn't good for their political future. The only thing I
can think of is they're too afraid to tell the
Democratic national machine that I'm not going to go along
with this because you know they can destroy them. I
really think they're being forced to sacrifice their career in

(01:07:19):
order to purge their own people from the two largest cities.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Now, if people do want to help and donate for
your school, of course, can you give them information.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
About it as absolutely. Also, I just started a new
mailing list, so I want all the viewers' supporters to
go to any of my social media pages. You could
go to doctor Umar Johnson dot com, but you can
go to Twitter and Instagram at doctor Umar Johnson, Facebook,
doctor Umar E. Fatunde and TikTok Prince of Pan Africanism.
Click on the bio, click on my link tree and

(01:07:47):
subscribe to the mailing list. I'm going to start sending
out once a month updates because not everybody on social
media then I get suspended for whatever reasons episode occasionally
from going live, so this way I can stay in
touch with them. One of the things I'm going to
be doing before the election is I'm going to put
together the Bishop Turner National Independent Black Political Movement. I
want to bring all young black voters under the age
of thirty together, try to get a couple million of

(01:08:09):
us enough to make some noise, and we're going to
demand a meeting with both nominees from both major parties.
All right, We're gonna sit down with Trump, sit down
with Biden. If you don't come and have a conversation
with us, we're not giving anybody. I'll vote the Black
vote only matters if it gets organized. If anybody needs
to reach me consultation with your children mental health evaluation review,

(01:08:29):
you could text me direct. The number been public for
nineteen years. Two one five nine eight nine nine eight
five eight. That's two one five nine eight nine nine
eight five eight. This Sunday, coming Sunday, July fourteenth, I
believe it is okay. From ten to six, there is
a free black book giveaway. Bring your children. They're giving

(01:08:51):
out free books for children. Source of Knowledge Bookstore, eight
six seven Broad Street, Newark, New Jersey. Source of Knowledge Bookstore,
Sunday July fourteenth, ten to six. I will be given
it's outdoors on the street, vendors food, The whole thing
is free. I will be given a talk to parents
on navigating the special education to prison pipeline, navigating the

(01:09:15):
ADHD to psychiatric medication of pipeline. So it's going to
be a free talk. If you need help for your children,
bring your psychological evaluations, bring your IEPs, bring your behavior plans.
It's going to be a free review at the Social
Knowledge Bookstore in Newark. This coming Sunday, ten and six.
I speak at two three quick points for our parents
number one. The younger your child is, the less likely

(01:09:37):
you should be getting them evaluated. The younger the child, Charlemagne,
the more likely we may misdiagnose. Three years old is
too young for autism evaluation. Four years old is too
young for EIGHTYHD. Five years old is too young for
reading disability. The younger the child, the less items we
can ask them anyway because they're so young, so you
don't get a good read. I need Black parents to

(01:09:58):
slow down. In my Afro Latino parents, slow down. Stop
getting your children evaluated so quickly. The school wants them
tested quickly, envying Charlemagne. Why because special LED begins at
age three, which means they can start getting the money
at age three. Special LED is age three to twenty one.
So when your child goes to preschool and they not
talking too good and not walking through good, first thing

(01:10:19):
they want to do is get it eval Slow down,
give my child a chance to show me what he
can do. Because if you go looking for an evaluation,
you're going to get a diagnosis, because that's how they
get paid by giving out the diagnosis. Notori's big said,
what more money more problems? Well, in the world of
mental health, more problems more money, so slow down on
the eval Number two, do not get your child evaluated

(01:10:39):
for ADHD, conduct disorder, odd emotional disturbance, or intermittent explosive disorder.
I'm gonna say it again, if you're black, do not
get your child evaluated for ADHD, conduct disorder, emotional disturbance,
intermittent explosive disorder because it only leads to what medication.
America has no answer for a black or Afro Latino
kid die. You know, with one of them syndromes, They're

(01:11:01):
going to put them on drugs. And if you decide
to discontinue the medication, child protective services will be called
and they will confiscate your children. It's called medical neglect
and it's one of the fastest reasons Black parents are
losing their children to a foster care. If you don't
plan to drug them up, and you shouldn't want to anyway,
do not get him evaluated. If you think they too hyper.

(01:11:24):
Go to the health store. There's all kind of herbal
concoctions you could put under the tongue. There's a product
called Calm Child. There's a product called b Colm. There's
a product called Melissa Supreme where they take herbs that
calm down the central nervous system. But guess what, the
herbs are not even gonna work if he's a regular, normal,
healthy boy and you're not giving him enough opportunity to
release his natural testosterone. A big problem with all of

(01:11:46):
this is boys need to move around. In fact, the
research even shows boys learn better envying Charlotte Mane when
they move. So why they still sitting still for eight
hours when the research said, the neuroscience says boys learn
better when they move because the teachers the Caucasian nation,
the teachers that run to school, they don't want to
move them. They want to sit in that chair because
it makes their job easier. So a lot of times

(01:12:07):
this is not an ADHD problem. It's a ain't no
daddy at home disorder problem. It's an artificial diet and
home disorder problem. Okay, it is a eight. It's an
attachment disruption due to home life dysfunction problem as well.
That's number two third in my final one. If you
don't understand the paperwork called me, parents are signing off

(01:12:28):
on evaluations they didn't read. They signing off on diagnosis
they don't agree with. If you don't think your child
is retired, why did you sign If you don't think
they need special let? Why did you sign? Stop signing
paperwork you don't agree with and you don't understand. That's
what doctor Umar said. I will make time to look
at your paperwork. Stop signing because they signing our kids
away into full time special leg and they don't even

(01:12:49):
realize it. And you got to go to these IEP meetings.
If you're going to put your child in special let
take care of your child. I got black parents put
their kids in special LED, White ones too, but I'm
talking about our community. Put they kids in special lets
and never go to an IEP meeting for twelve years.
Now he's about to graduate, Charla Man, guess what he
can't read? And now you're upset at the school district.
He can't read how many IEP meetings you went to
since you put him in special let. First of all,

(01:13:10):
he should have never been in special LED in the
first grade because he's too young for special LED. But
if you're going to do it, at least look out
for the child. We got to do a better job
of protecting our kids from the special education to prison pipeline.
Because when I go speak speak in these jails, and
I speak regularly in the prisons. Always asks it. It makes
the raise your hand. How many of you was in
special LED? Damn that every hand go up black, white, brown,

(01:13:31):
yellow and white. Every hand goes up just about you
see what I'm saying. Special LED causes more problems than
it solved. Most of our kids just need a tutor
to that point. How many of our kids are reading books?
This summer? Honey? Of our kids are going to the
black bookstores? This summer honey of our kids are being
taken to the public library to smer to read something.
Most of them are not. They own this right here.
This is destroying academic excellence in the black community. This

(01:13:53):
and for my black fathers out there. I know you're
someone want to be a basketball player. I know you
wanted to be a football player. But if he can't
read on grade level, what is he on an aau?
If he can't count on great level, what is he
doing in the summer league? You you mean you care
more about your son being a good football player, the
basketball player, than in the productive adult. Half the black
boys in America in fourth grade can't read on the
gray level. Half the Black boys in America in the

(01:14:14):
eighth grade can't count on their gray level, but yet
we pushing football. This should be no video game in
your house, no cell phone in your house, and nobody
should be in no summer league if they can't read
and count on gray level. We got to get back
to black excellence.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
There you have it, doctor umar Umar Johnson, appreciate you
for joining us. And it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,
all right.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club

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