September 17, 2024 • 36 mins
The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Eve To Discuss Motherhood, Ruff Ryders Brotherhood, Jay-Z's Advice, And Overcoming Alcoholism. Listen For More!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The breakfast Club, Yes.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
Morning, everybody's dj Envy, Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the God.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
We are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Jess is out on maternity leave, so we have lour
la rosa feeling.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
And then we got a special guest in.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
The building, the legendary Her book.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Is out right now. Who's that girl?
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Ev? E?
Speaker 5 (00:20):
Ladies and gentlemen, Eve, what's up? Morney?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Y'all welcome? Good morning?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
How you feel? How you feel?
Speaker 6 (00:25):
I feel good, I'm jet lag, but I'm good. Oh
you just got him like Saturday and my kids with me,
so yeah, good but good. Happy to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
You got the memoir out, man, who's that girl?
Speaker 4 (00:34):
One thing you tell folks right out the gate is
how much you initially hated the name Eve?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Could you explain that for the people who haven't ready
to book yet?
Speaker 6 (00:42):
Yes, this is the first time I got this question. Actually, yes,
because I thought I was cursed because I grew up
Jehovah's witness, my Grandma's Jehovah's witness and religious and Eve
was the one who made the evil happen in the world.
She gave the apple to Adam, so I actually literally
for years thought that I was cursed having that name.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
You know, I grew h it too.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
You're the first person that ever made me look at
that from that perspective, because most people just say Eve
is the first lady lady.
Speaker 6 (01:08):
No, I felt like, well, damn it, she's she's responsible
for evil, like because people used to say to me
when I was a kid, like you, oh, you you
gave Adam. That gave Adam the apple, like literally, and
I'm like that's crazy. Why would you say that to
a kid? Also like yes, like I don't fucking know him,
but yeah, no, I really did think I was cursed.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
But then you love your name, Eve Johan because you
find out what he meant.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
Yes, Jahan means uh universe, Eve means first lady. And
my mom was obsessed with Shah Jahan that built the
taj mahll and she changed a letter and then I
was like, wow, Eve Johan, like that's a big deal,
Like and yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Love my name now, first Lady of the universe.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
First Lady of the universe.
Speaker 7 (01:46):
How funny of your life was that switched from I
hated to yeah, I'm embracing it, Like how old were you?
Speaker 6 (01:51):
I was honestly even thirties, late twenties, thirties because I
was still in I don't know, I was such a
tormented person within mind myself. It took a while. It
was years also that I just didn't trust myself. And
I talk about in the book, like with drinking and stuff.
I just didn't trust myself. So it took it took
a while.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I was reliving all these memories, right because a lot
of these I.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Feel naked in this book.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
I talk about a lot in this book. I definitely
we re read stuff. I definitely was like, do I
really want to put this stuff out here? But I
was like, I think it's important. I think it's important
for myself. I think it's important for my kid. I
don't want to bring any of my ship onto my kid.
(02:39):
But and it's so cheesy to say, but you know,
it's what's that saying? What you what? You what you reveal?
You can heal what? Yes, exactly, And it's like, I
just feel like I need to shed some of that ship.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
What was the most difficult thing to write in the book.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
What was the hardest part the hardest if anything?
Speaker 6 (03:00):
Oh, there was, yeah, listen, I tried. We was editing
kind of and then I was like, fuck it, lots
of it. I think, being really vulnerable, vulnerable about my
drinking for real, because I talked about it when I
was on the Talk. I talked about it. Yes, I
had an issue, but I don't even think I actually
(03:20):
admitted it to myself. Also the fact that I had
I had this ep topic pregnancy when I was on
my sitcom that I never told anybody about. And I
actually did not even recognize it until I was ready
to get pregnant with my kid. So I never even
dealt with it at all. So that was really hard.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
What made you deal with it now? You felt like
there's other woman probably.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
Dealing with it percent and the frustration of being a woman.
And I talked about this the last time when I
was here with the Crew of Queens and we talked
about well, I mentioned about endometriosis and having fibroids and
shit like that and how doctors just don't listen to
you and having to go get a specialists to find
out that I had that. And I think it's just important.
(04:02):
There's so many women that are suffering with infertility, and
lots of definitely lots of black women. Lots of my
friends are still suffering. So yeah, I think it's just important.
Speaker 7 (04:14):
I know that was back in two thousand and six. Yeah,
and I've actually been through that.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
Yeah. So when I heard you talk.
Speaker 7 (04:20):
About it in the book, I was like, oh, shoot,
because it's like it just happens, like you don't even
know what happens.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Yep. After that happened, when you were.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
Looking to have your baby that you have, now, were
you a bit nervous about like if it would work out,
or like would you be safe during the pregnancy, Like
what were your thoughts?
Speaker 6 (04:35):
I was so nervous. I was so anxi and I'm
an anxiety written person, which is why I drink and
smoked so much weed to try to chill myself out.
I was so anxious. I was so nervous, and I
talk about in the book how I was like anxiety
master level when I was pregnant on the set of Queens,
because I was like, here, it is okay, I'm working,
which is great, and I'm so grateful and blessed, but
(04:58):
is it to the detriment of my kid? Like am
I gonna lose this baby? Like I was literally going
to the doctor trying to hear the heartbeat just so
I could feel calm on set. So yeah, I was scared.
I was really really scared. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
You know, it's crazy when you were younger and you
don't know what anxiety and I guess you know the
depression is. Yeah, we all have those coping mechanisms because
they're all around. So whether it's in the lifestyle, in
the hood, just growing up, you see family members drinking
and then I know hip hop didn't help.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Oh yeah, yeah, smoked some more. What the fuck are
you crying? It's fine, I have a drink, Like no,
hell no, because everybody was doing it. Also, nobody was
using these words. Nobody was talking about anxiety, nobody was
talking about mental health, nobody's talking about depression. Like literally,
it was just like, all right, well you'll be all right,
you be all right, you be all right like that.
(05:44):
It was what it was, was.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
What it was when you realized you had a problem,
like you just.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Honestly, my d u I, my DUI was the time
that and not not even just the moment of the dui.
It was when I couldn't drink. It was when they
told me I had to where the ankle thing and
I have for drinking, Yeah, because what was it? You know,
back then they were giving out them fucking things for
some reason in La Yeah, the ankle monitor. For some reason,
they were giving them because they could tell through your
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blood who that if you were drinking. So I had
fifty six days where I couldn't drink, and I was
so scared of that fifty six days because I couldn't
remember a time where I hadn't drank. So I even
begged my lawyer at the time, like, can I go
do community service at a hospice? Can I go? Like,
I'll do anything, and she was like, no, this is
what you have to do and say and I say
(06:33):
this in the book. It saved my life because it
was the first time in a very long actually not
even a very long time. It was the first time
I ever sat with my fucking emotions like, actual, why
am I drinking? What am I trying to cover up?
Why am I trying to numb myself? What is the problem?
And I had to sit with my shit and I
cried a fucking lot, and I needed it. I needed
it well.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
It was the biggest moment.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
And when when you were sitting with yourself what was
the biggest thing where you're like, dang, like I'm really
dealing with this.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
I can't believe this is something I have to deal with.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
Well cause I lived in l A too, so I
had a psychic lady. And I say that because you
know how it is in LA. But I believe you
know that Ship. I don't care some people are really
that's a media at a media. No, I don't. But
if you know somebody, no, Because so she was very
like and I and I take it for what is worth.
(07:21):
I take it for his word. She was very good.
She wasn't the type, she wasn't scary. She was just
like she just could read you, and it was more
like energetically. She was just like at one point I
would call her for everything because I didn't trust myself.
And one day she fired me and she was like no,
She was like, you're depending on me for too much.
(07:42):
She was like, I have to let you go really,
and I was like, oh, Ship, And that's why I
know she was good.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
My friends who got fired by their therapists are like
really messed up. So how did you get fired by its?
Speaker 4 (07:56):
I know?
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Did she call what was that called?
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Literally?
Speaker 6 (07:58):
I wouldn't even honestly, I would be like, can you
come do an energy clearing over here? Can you come
do this? And she was like. At one point I
called her and I was like just in this dark
place and she was like, you know what you need
to do. I am not responsible for you. You have
to figure this out. And this was during that time
the Duy. This was all that shit where I was
just trying to figure shit out and I at the
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end of the day, you cannot look outside yourself, does
not matter who it is or what they do. You
have to look within. And that shit sounds cliche now
too sometimes, but it's the fucking real. It's the reallest
thing ever. So yeah, it just forced me to sit
with myself, talk to myself, go back to my roots,
go pray. Well, you know what I'm saying, Like, what.
Speaker 7 (08:37):
Was that moment in LA that you were about to
talk about When that was like this like the really
big dark moment that you got, It was just.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
It was me crying on the floor, depression, crying, crying
in a closet like literally and calling her like literally
calling her that's why I brought her up, and just
being like listen, I need you to help me figure
this out, and she's like, no, no, I'm sorry, like
you need to figure this out.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
At that time where we're friends, family, associates.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
So my other issue is that I push people away.
And that's another thing that I realized is emotionally, I
didn't grow up in a family that really talked. We
didn't say I love you, we didn't say I hate you.
If shit was bad, we screamed. Also, you just knew
you were loved. So I really just didn't know about
(09:19):
I didn't know communication. And I always felt like my
mom had me young, so I feel like we grew
up together, so I always felt like I needed to
be independent. She raised me very independent, fiercely independent. So
I think I was just like I need to deal
with the shit on my own. Plus I'm a scorpio,
like I think it has a lot to do with that.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Like I don't know, so, how were you as a
parent now, because I think my parents, probably Charlemagne's parents,
those older parents were always they never really show much love.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
They never said I love you. You knew it was there.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
And Philly like, listen, you better just get on with it.
I'm a fucking smother mother. I am a mother. I'm like,
and he's already like, Mama, get off me. But I
am so And I was actually scared that I wouldn't connect,
I swear to god. I was like, And my assister
in law told me that too, she has three kids,
(10:07):
and she was like, don't feel weird, because some women
sometimes just don't connect immediately. And I just thought, possibly
because of the way I grew up, maybe I won't
be you know what I'm saying. And it makes me
emotional because like, so, it's just it's a freedom. It's
so fucking nice. It's so fucking nice, and I fucking like,
(10:30):
I'm just gonna he's gonna be fucking spoiled and he's
gonna get away with a lot of ship.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
But are you Are you raising him out of fear
or love?
Speaker 6 (10:39):
Now that is a good question. Love for sure, love.
But I tackle with fear. I tackle with fear.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
So yeah, but you but you want him to be
in a position where he really calls mom regardless, you know,
because he even growing up, you call your parents when
you had to, had to. But now my son, he's
about to be twenty one, he calls his mom for everything,
And I love their relationship. Yeah, because I know that
if something happens, Mom, God iss back.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
You know that's real. I do because I could talk
to my mom buck and not and it's not her fault.
Like me and my mom now are like, it's not
her fault. It's how she grew up. I was scared
of my fucking mother, which is fine. I think a
little fear is important.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yes, you know, I probably scared for you growing up
on Murder Street, right. That's why I asked, what the
are you raising them out of fear of love?
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Because my parents raise us out of fear because they
didn't want us to end up in a bad situation.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I end up like them like my dad.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
No, I look at and i'm you know, I look
at where we live, where I'm at, Like I wake up,
I walk down the streets and like, damn, I live
in London, Like it's crazy, Like I still think like that.
I'm forty five, like you know, but I also appreciate it.
I also feel like I am greatly like thankful, and
I'm also greatly thankful that my kid's life is so
far removed.
Speaker 8 (11:57):
You shot every now and then just to you know,
don't keep it never.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Another good part in the book is the unbeknownst to
jay Z, he put a battery in your back.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
Yeah, early, yes, Yes, it's funny because that was one
of those things that we were like, do we put
this in there, because I know how people get But
it's nothing bad about that, you know, It's It's one
of those things where it was a very amazing phone
call that I needed. That was one of those I
always felt like I was an underdog anyway. And he
wasn't saying it out of malice or mean. That wasn't
(12:32):
about that. It was facts.
Speaker 8 (12:34):
Really it felt like he was trying to temple your expectation,
Yes exactly.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
But I was like, hh, okay, let me see. I'm
gonna show you. Yeah, it's all good. It's all good.
And it went on to be fine. But and like
I say in the book, we all have that person
that's something no matter what industry or whatever. You know
what I'm saying, we all have that thing or someone
says something they don't even fucking know that you're like, Okay,
(13:00):
I'm gonna use that, no problem.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
One of the dopest things I love is you talk
about your big brothers in the industry, right, because you
don't really hear that that much, And how Rough Riders
and all of them, you know, kind of was your
big brothers to make sure they protected you. Talk about
that a little bit because in this industry you hear
so many crazy stories. But they were showing up with knives,
guns and everything they needed to make sure you were safe.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
Listen, I was so fucking protected. I'm so forever grateful
as well that Rough Riders is the crew that I
come from. They respected me, protected me, celebrated me, allowed
me to be me at all times. And yeah, if
they had to shake you, niggasn't.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
That's one of the things I was wondering about. That's
how I was so excited to meet you. I was like,
I wonder how.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Much how Philly she's still gonna be?
Speaker 6 (13:48):
No Philly, I never that can never go, That can
never ever go. I do say words now and then
I will say my managers that he's from London. I
will say because for my baby, I try to keep
ship like consistent. So I do say rubbish sometimes and
I do say jumper, but Philly is always always. You
can't take it out of me. You can't take it
out of me.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Your baby's a bit older now, I know.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
I saw you talk about exposing your husband to like
Eve from Philly, Like, whatever, how do you what?
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Are you having those conversations with your baby yet?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Are you?
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Is he back and forth? Like, are you doing that
exposure to Yes?
Speaker 6 (14:22):
No, he comes back and forth to Philly. Will be
there in a few days. He was just there a
few months ago, playing with his cousins, like and I
love that because it's a different vibe and I love that,
and I feel like he needs that, and it's gonna
be such a rich childhood for him because England is
so different and his cousins. Yes, he does, he says, garage, garage,
(14:44):
Wait till he says, John, Wait, I need to start
teaching him that now.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, you know, and the things fall apart.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Chapter you said that you feel like the spirit of
the rough Riders died with DMX God blessed the dead
when that r r chapter of your life clothes. Did
you you feel a sense of grief with that as well?
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Yes, yes and no. Yes in the sense of obviously
with X because of X one, but know in the
sense that we've all kind of gone off and been
doing our own shit for so long in between all
of that, because you know, before he died, may he
rest we were supposed to do a rough riut of tour.
(15:26):
We have been talking about a rough out of tour,
so yes and no, Yes and no.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
I always wanted to know the Rough Riders record, right, yeah,
the remix when you were on it?
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Did you know what it was? As soon as you
heard that record? Break that down? When as soon as
you heard Rough Riders anthem and.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Oh no, you know what?
Speaker 6 (15:44):
I knew. I knew it was a fucking dope verse.
I did know that. I was like, nah, this this
is this is because this is the thing. The way
that they had us all in the studio, it was
healthy competition. So I knew that verse. I knew it.
I was like, this is the verse. I didn't know
what it was going to do from that, but I
knew that I was holding my own I didn't really
feel it until I heard it on the radio and
(16:05):
I was like, wow, that's what I sound like like.
And I didn't sound like they were carrying me like
I knew it, Like I was like, okay, I'm supposed.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
To be here.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Was that that moment that I.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
Was that moment that on the radio. That was that moment.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah, yeah, I was gonna ask you get tired of
telling the same stories over and over, right, because listening
to your hip hop stories since you've been up here,
since we finally I know the stories.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Like I know the May story.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
I know I'm forty six.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Lauren, who's thirty two, it's brand new to her.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
I knew the main story.
Speaker 7 (16:41):
I'm from Delaware though, so the way we connected Delaware, No,
but Eve, it's right there, Like, yeah, so I knew
that only because of that.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
But there are a lot of people.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
I saw people reacting online when when like episodes of
the book were being picked up who didn't know that?
Speaker 6 (16:55):
Does that freak you out at all? Like when people
are like some of it? Because what's what's annoying to me.
I was talking about this the other day. It was
annoying to me is yes, like I've talked about the
stripper thing, right. What's annoying to me about it, though,
is that people fixate so much on it still that
I'm like, bitch, I was eighteen, it was I was
too long, it was toomn and I was lazy and
the craziest thing about that is not that I was stripper,
(17:15):
I was just saying it yesterday, is that I was
rapping with my tenmies, Like that's the crazier thing. And
on top of.
Speaker 8 (17:21):
That, but but on top of that, the revelation of
that is the situation that happened with the conversation, and
that no one chooses to go there and say like,
oh damn, that was a dope moment.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
No, she's just a fucking st like, bro, are you serious?
Like so that annoys me and I actually that was
one of those things where I was like, do we
put this in the book again? But then I felt
like people who did know my story might be like, oh, well,
why shouldn't talk about that? So yeah, I don't know. Yes,
it gets annoying, but that's I think that was another
reason for doing this book, because I'm like, these are
the stories. Yes, there's some shit that I have already
(18:00):
talked about. I will go deeper on that and then
now I'm good. Now it's time to move on.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
But it's also because got a new resurgence. What it shows.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
Yes, yes, yes, yes that's true, that's true, but but no,
crazily enough, people don't even say his name to me.
They just talked about the stripping really yes, like it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yeah, basically just telling you don't have to do this.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
Yeah, I mean he was literally telling me. He was
just like, what do you want to do? He was
he was the first person that really asked those questions
where I was already questioning why am I here? What
the fuck am I doing?
Speaker 4 (18:30):
For the record, every man says that to the badest script,
you don't have to the girls do it too.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
I'm like that, I do have the girl outside of here, but.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
I do that as well.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
Yeah, my friends be like, please put Lawrence cash up
away because she just because I'd be like, dang you
in nursing school.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
All of y'all in nurses school.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Did the TV show Eve? Yes, the name of the
show was Eve. Yeah, but your character's name Michelle. I
know why.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
That's what the network wanted. And then they was like, oh,
like the Cosby's where it was they were the Huxtables,
but his name was Cosby, so everybody knew to show
trust me. I tried to fight him. They I had.
I tried to fight him.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
That's another part of your life. I feel like doesn't
get talked about enough. You had a sitcom to me,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
That did well?
Speaker 6 (19:20):
Yeah, that did well. I was very very lucky it
did well. And I didn't take it as seriously as
I feel like I should have or could have. And
I talk about that in the book. I don't believe
in regrets, but probably that's my only one of my
only ones where I just didn't take it as seriously
as I could have. Would different I would have shown
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up to table reads, not coming straight from the club.
I would not be having after parties in my dressing
room I was doing, Yeah, but I was the youngest
one set and I was trying to figure out how
I was a real rapper, Like literally, like I was
having after party. We've come from the club, go to
my dressing room, and then I'm like I gotta be
on set, like and did not realizing like how many people,
(20:06):
how many the crew? You know what I'm saying. Like,
So I just I really would have done that differently.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yes, does Eve care about the industry at all at
this point.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
In earlier No, not really, Yeah, not really, not in
the same way. Definitely not, I think because I did
go through so much torment within myself that now it's
kind of PTSD to a certain extent. So I feel
like that's why I do dip in and out, because
I know, I think it's I think it's healthy for me.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
What was the torment?
Speaker 7 (20:33):
Because you keep talking about questioning yourself, second guessing yourself
and non torment, like, what was it?
Speaker 6 (20:39):
It was all personal shit. It was all personal shit
mixed with I don't think. I think at the time,
I probably was depressed, but I just didn't know it, honestly,
which is why I did drink as much as I drank.
But I just didn't understand it. I just didn't know it.
And I also did have no one to talk to
about it. The times that I would go cry to people,
(21:01):
they'd be like, You'd be all right, like you know
what I'm saying. So then I'm like, well, what's wrong
with me? Like literally, okay, then maybe I'm I don't know,
maybe I'm not supposed to be here. It was a
lot of that kind of questioning am I truly happy?
Am I only doing? And is this what I'm supposed
to be doing? And then I think, yeah, it was.
It was a lot of my own personal torment.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
It really was.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, I got to ask about.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
You know the cat woman comment. Right, Oh, like people
forget who you are and all the things that you do.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Work for a long long what is that?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
What does that come from? Like, like, do y'all.
Speaker 8 (21:34):
Know there's nothing, there's.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
No listen if you could do it, if you get great,
God bless you. If that's what you want and that's
who you are. I have zero personally, I have zero
problems with it. I think it's a disservice to who
I am and what I've done and what I built
for myself. That's why I have a problem with it. Like, yeah, okay, yeah,
I married this dude. I'm not gonna marry a broke dude.
That's real, Like, but he's not. I think people also
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put on him more than what he is, and he's
not that we we do stuff for each other together,
Like he's just a dude I fell in love with.
Like he's a billionaire, right, he's not a billionaire?
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Oh, because that was always the headlines.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
Even I'm like, and that's why I'm like, no, he's
not a billionaire.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
A bird by the way he looked.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Millions, you know.
Speaker 8 (22:26):
No.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
But at the same time, like, no, I'm not I'm
not kept. If I didn't want to work, it'd be fine.
But it's just who I am to the core, to
my DNA, like I just it's just who I am.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
And how was the transition to London? When you decided
to move to London?
Speaker 6 (22:44):
It was one place though, it was one place and
it was good and they were from the They did
have Ammarosso's bread, which was the good bread, but then
I think they shut down.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Okay, So how was moving to million sixty million?
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Where the billionaire thing came from?
Speaker 6 (22:57):
I don't know. I think maybe because he's white and British.
Speaker 8 (23:02):
You never said.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Yeah, I mean, I swear to God that matter in
fact checked that.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
I just maybe because he is white in British.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
I thought, because I'm gonna be honest, I never.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Said it was you.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
And then it was Remember when Rihanna was with the Yeah,
they had like photos of y'all like girls, we can
do it.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
We can know it.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
There were means. Yeah, that's why I remember how much
money I thought he was worth.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
So I was a transition to moving to London.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
No cheese steak, No, it was hard. The first two
years were really brutal, definitely, and I still have moments
where I missed, like conveniences and things. I know. British people,
I love you because you're different.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
You good, You use.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
The warm, but some of them ain't warm. Some of
them could be cold. It's hard to get in there,
Like it took a minute. It takes a minute. It
takes a minute, and it's still weird and different. But
I've been there ten years, like it is actually home.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Like so when you get a presidential race, you'd be like, God,
I'm just gonna stay in lonon.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
No, but I'm still vote. And from that I already
put in my ABSENCEY make sure y'all get like, because
it's important because I'm still American. I am American, and
I do care what happens here because at once, at
some point, I want to come back with my kids,
so he experience I wanted to go to college here,
like that is my goal, Like I want him to
come back, and I pray by then that the country
is what it needs to be.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
All imagine being Eve's kid in college. Your dad we
already thought to you dad was a billionaire. Your mom
is Eve, and you just pop up in college with
this crazy accent that people are gonna love seeing John
like he's gonna have a great time in college.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
We gotta talk about NYU. What are you?
Speaker 6 (24:32):
Yeah, So I am Professor Jeffu's cooper. Now I'm doing
there Steinhardt residency year residency. So basically I get to
teach whatever I want or just come and just I
won't say vibe because it's more than that. But it's
like conversations about who I am, what I am, what
they offer, and then we're gonna do like a big
event in the spring with some of the students from there,
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the musicians, everything like that. So this is a huge
deal for me because I mean I never knew this
was even available, Like I would have never even thought
this was something. So I'm very very honored to be
there that. Yeah, what is it called residency? But is
it scholar and resident?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yes? So do you have to be there?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
It'll be I do so.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
No, so I have to do two. I'm doing my
first event next Saturday, just like meet and greet, and
then I do my first official one in November.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
You have a curriculum and everything.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
Yeah, first official one in November, I'm going to do
one in London, and then in the spring back here
and then if I want to continue, then we'll see
what happens.
Speaker 7 (25:33):
But when you're here, does your family, like your husband
and all you guys kids come with you.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
The baby is here, but my husband is doing gumball,
which is how we met. His rally it's my first
one I haven't done in ten years. But and then
in Asia, so hi baby, Yeah, we met on the gumball.
I was driving on the gum ball.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yes, it's a long drive.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
It's three thousand miles and seven days much. I know
it's a lot. But you need coal driver, Just get
a dope even get like to look at me selling it. Listen,
two coal drivers, somebody for the music, somebody to make
sure you could drink one night and then then the
next person drive. Like, if you want to do it,
I will map it out for you. I promise. It's
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something I feel like everybody should experience.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
I wanted to do it and then broadcast from the
different countries.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
No, I'm telling you do it, and I swear and
I'm not even saying it just because I'm his wife.
It's one of the best times I've ever had. That
when when that week comes around, like I'm really sad.
I'm missing it, like really sad. But I mean bum
Beat does it, and my big bro like he does
it every year, so please do it. Y'all should do it.
Y'all should do it next year.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
I know that, No, do it.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I can't commit to that doing my anxiety set up.
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
You can drive. It's not a race, it's a rally.
It's a lot for him. Oh yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
It is a lot.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
You bored because you are creative, you know what I'm saying,
just like okay, okay.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
No, Well, because I don't drink or anything like that anymore.
I do. I have an occasional drink. I ain't smoking
weed in London, no disrespect to anybody in London, but
it's just different. I don't know to write people. I
know one dude that's smoke, but I don't even know,
like I'm cool, So I've stopped. I've stopped, but yeah, no,
(27:23):
I don't know. My son is everything. And then I
chill like I do chill. But I did say this
to a friend of mine. I'm not doing anything creatively
to feed my soul. I mean this book helped a lot,
just writing because I shout out to Kathy by the way,
my co writer. She's amazing and has her own credits
and amazing books on her own. But writing doing this
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process with her actually helped me a lot. And we're
already thinking about the next book. So yeah, but I
do need to do more creative things to feed my soul.
I believe that you still all I write poems more.
I went back to that because that's where I kind
of first started that being said. We are talking about
because this book also falls around the twenty fifth anniversary
of my first album, so yes, let that be eve.
(28:05):
So we are talking about reworking stuff to put it
out next year, so there will be some new stuff
next year.
Speaker 7 (28:10):
If you rework stuff or like do anything music wise,
would you add any of the new girl artists.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
I definitely want to. I definitely want to. We're still
talking about top three go to Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
That's hard.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
I ain't even gonna lie because we've been talking about it.
Because ultimately, I don't want to do anything that looks
like I'm just jumping on some shit just to jump
on it. I feel like it needs to be it
has to be organic and write for those kinds of
those records, So we're still figuring it out.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
I feel like would make a lot of sense.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
But the interesting thing about Eve, like Eve, you're such
a one on one even now, I can't think of
any body who I would compare it because she.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Did sexy rap, but then she did the positive raps.
She did the women's empowerment rap, but then she also
did that.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Right to think about who to put on stuff.
Speaker 7 (28:57):
To be honest, the meaning of like come out of
Philly is just a little bit different too. And this
girl's coming out of Philly like they got rocky amazing,
Like there's girls that are trying to come out of Philly,
but they haven't hit like a sexy red or like yet.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
So I don't know if if the.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
I mean, but I'm yeah, I don't know. I had
to figure it out. I mean, the dope to do
a whole Philly like female.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Something to what the thought process was back then, because
when you came out, like I'm just thinking about it,
you did you wasn't in a single a box, right,
You did the sexy rap at times, but then you
did the women empowerment rap, but then you.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Remember even doing sexy rap, she just was a flying chick.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
No, but I think yeah, the demeanor was sexy though, Yeah,
it was very much like yeah.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
I don't think yeah. Lyrically, I don't think I really
went there. But when it came to maybe like yeah style, it.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Was Yeah, it wasn't force.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Was that was that?
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Was that forced when you thought about it? Or was
that something that you was conscious of doing? Or is
that was just eve?
Speaker 6 (29:53):
It was just me? It was just honestly, it was
just me. It was what I wanted to show. My
easiest album, I think was the first album because I
feel like I was writing the album my whole life.
It was the other albums that I literally had to
think about, the second album, the third album. But that
being said, I kind of just did what I felt.
I kind of just did what I felt like I
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wanted to do. Yeah, it wasn't no herem or reason
when you.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Did love his blind Was the label behind it or
they was like this is totally from what's out now?
Speaker 6 (30:22):
I was shocked that they were behind it. I was
actually really shocked, especially that early in my career with
rough Riders, but they were. They were completely behind it.
I think once I added the third verse where I
also popped them like it also, Yeah, it was like
I think that was fine, but yeah, they were totally
behind it.
Speaker 7 (30:40):
Yeah, well we I know you said earlier that you
guys have been talking about a reunion before DMX pass.
Would you or would y'all consider doing something like that
now without him being here? You feel like it couldn't
be done without him.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
I don't know. I would leave that up to D
and Y to figure out. I think that would be
up to them, and if they want to bring us together,
I'll always be there, of course, but I think it's
more up to them to figure it out.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
You know, in the Hollywood chapter, you talk about going
to the Church of Scientology.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Could you explain to the people what the hell made
you do that?
Speaker 6 (31:11):
Because I got invited by somebody who I.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Was like, yes that.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
I was like, well, if you're going, I just need
to see Plus I'm very much Bart Simpson like, I'm
very much. I will touch the fire just to make
sure it's fire. And when the hell else am I
going to get into the celebrity Scientology censor. I was
scared of ship. The whole time I was in there.
I did not eat the food. That was like they're
gonna yes and bring it.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Crazy.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
I don't want to say because I don't even know
if it's she's I don't want to out nobody because
I don't even know she's still doing it. So only
for those reasons. Child, that ship was crazy and I
was hungover. That was the other thing.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
I remember that.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
That's why I was so stressed. But it was very weird.
You definitely got to read that chapter.
Speaker 7 (32:07):
So you walked in and is there like access codes
or like the people with you? There's like people everywhere
in every like there are people everywhere watching everything, and there.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
Are special people to walk you today. It was they
all wear the same thing like it was crazy.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Was it one of those things where you felt like,
since I'm in the industry now, I guess I should
be doing this because this is what people in the
industry do.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Well.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
I was more curious because of this person. We had
kind of had a light like friendship. It wasn't like
a but because we were getting to know each other.
So I was curious in that way of like, oh interesting,
why what made her do that? Let me go see Meanwhile,
obviously I'm still on this. What am I doing? What's
going on, But I quickly was like, this is not No.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
You told your family about that?
Speaker 6 (32:54):
What they say? No, like my mom.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
Yet all the rules of mom and grandma wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Have been with the psychic town.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
I know, No, they wouldn't have been with it, like
my grandmother for sure. My mom now she's like whatever,
she's like, you are who you are now like Crystal's
stage or she knows who I am.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
But back then, no, New Newton, what your mom still
in the hall?
Speaker 6 (33:14):
No, No, my mom's not. My grandmother is Grandma? My
grandmother is still waiting for thousand.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Yes she sliff you watched out and the waits every
now and then.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
No, she's actually good. She leaves she honestly, she leaves
us alone. But that's her thing.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
It's all good.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
You know what I wanted to ask you to even
Destruction chapter you talk about your time with Aftermath, and
you know when you got dropt from the.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Label, Dray didn't even bother to call you.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
How was it when things came full circle? You done
blew up and y'all ended up doing let me blow
your mind? Did y'all even did you bring that up
to him? Like you know, you ain't even call me when.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
You No, I didn't even need to. I remember before
we even did Blow Your Mind, we did the Source
Awards and I was like, yeah, I'm on the same
stage as you with the Rough Riders, like so it
went from that to Jimmy being like, y'all need to
get back in the studio do a song. And it
was kind of just me being so extra extra Philly,
like yeah, okay, well let me hear it, beat let
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me hear it, like so extra like. So we never
ever discussed it, but we also knew Listen dra is
one of the greatest, like right, so I knew he
was going to get it out of me. I just
I made it hard. I made it hard.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Yeah. Yeah, they album the book.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Who's That Girl?
Speaker 6 (34:29):
Thank you for having me?
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Final question about Who's that Girl? Yes, who were you
at the start of this book? And who would you
say you are?
Speaker 6 (34:37):
That's a good question. At the start. I definitely tried
to write it like an interview, and Kathy actually checked
me on that because she was like, look, I don't
want to take you back to trauma, but you need
to emote for people to understand where you're coming from.
So I think I was slightly guarded. And then as
I went through it and I'm getting I dont know,
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I'm getting emotional. First time asked me this question. I
just feel like all that ship that I had on,
like one of my healers used to call it an
invisible backpack of ship of other people, ship of your
ship like that ships off and listen, my life's been great.
This is This is not a book about being like
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fun that. This is not a book. This is a
book about me realizing how as much as I say
I was in this personal tourm turmoil term turmoil turmoil,
how determined I was to believe in myself to get
to a certain place, and that at the end of
the book, I was like, damn, I'm proud of myself.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
So yeah, memoir out right now for joining us.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
I did not expect tears to like at all, but
thank you for having me. I ain't seen now, y'all
just be hinder.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
You can let it flow. We need it for the content.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Hanging up the tissues right, let me throw it all right,
it's the breakfast Club is Eve.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The breakfast Club, Yes.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
Morning, everybody's dj Envy, Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the God.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
We are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Jess is out on maternity leave, so we have lour
la rosa feeling.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
And then we got a special guest in.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
The building, the legendary Her book.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Is out right now. Who's that girl?
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Ev? E?
Speaker 5 (00:20):
Ladies and gentlemen, Eve, what's up? Morney?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Y'all welcome? Good morning?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
How you feel? How you feel?
Speaker 6 (00:25):
I feel good, I'm jet lag, but I'm good. Oh
you just got him like Saturday and my kids with me,
so yeah, good but good. Happy to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
You got the memoir out, man, who's that girl?
Speaker 4 (00:34):
One thing you tell folks right out the gate is
how much you initially hated the name Eve?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Could you explain that for the people who haven't ready
to book yet?
Speaker 6 (00:42):
Yes, this is the first time I got this question. Actually, yes,
because I thought I was cursed because I grew up
Jehovah's witness, my Grandma's Jehovah's witness and religious and Eve
was the one who made the evil happen in the world.
She gave the apple to Adam, so I actually literally
for years thought that I was cursed having that name.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
You know, I grew h it too.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
You're the first person that ever made me look at
that from that perspective, because most people just say Eve
is the first lady lady.
Speaker 6 (01:08):
No, I felt like, well, damn it, she's she's responsible
for evil, like because people used to say to me
when I was a kid, like you, oh, you you
gave Adam. That gave Adam the apple, like literally, and
I'm like that's crazy. Why would you say that to
a kid? Also like yes, like I don't fucking know him,
but yeah, no, I really did think I was cursed.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
But then you love your name, Eve Johan because you
find out what he meant.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
Yes, Jahan means uh universe, Eve means first lady. And
my mom was obsessed with Shah Jahan that built the
taj mahll and she changed a letter and then I
was like, wow, Eve Johan, like that's a big deal,
Like and yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Love my name now, first Lady of the universe.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
First Lady of the universe.
Speaker 7 (01:46):
How funny of your life was that switched from I
hated to yeah, I'm embracing it, Like how old were you?
Speaker 6 (01:51):
I was honestly even thirties, late twenties, thirties because I
was still in I don't know, I was such a
tormented person within mind myself. It took a while. It
was years also that I just didn't trust myself. And
I talk about in the book, like with drinking and stuff.
I just didn't trust myself. So it took it took
a while.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I was reliving all these memories, right because a lot
of these I.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Feel naked in this book.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
I talk about a lot in this book. I definitely
we re read stuff. I definitely was like, do I
really want to put this stuff out here? But I
was like, I think it's important. I think it's important
for myself. I think it's important for my kid. I
don't want to bring any of my ship onto my kid.
(02:39):
But and it's so cheesy to say, but you know,
it's what's that saying? What you what? You what you reveal?
You can heal what? Yes, exactly, And it's like, I
just feel like I need to shed some of that ship.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
What was the most difficult thing to write in the book.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
What was the hardest part the hardest if anything?
Speaker 6 (03:00):
Oh, there was, yeah, listen, I tried. We was editing
kind of and then I was like, fuck it, lots
of it. I think, being really vulnerable, vulnerable about my
drinking for real, because I talked about it when I
was on the Talk. I talked about it. Yes, I
had an issue, but I don't even think I actually
(03:20):
admitted it to myself. Also the fact that I had
I had this ep topic pregnancy when I was on
my sitcom that I never told anybody about. And I
actually did not even recognize it until I was ready
to get pregnant with my kid. So I never even
dealt with it at all. So that was really hard.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
What made you deal with it now? You felt like
there's other woman probably.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
Dealing with it percent and the frustration of being a woman.
And I talked about this the last time when I
was here with the Crew of Queens and we talked
about well, I mentioned about endometriosis and having fibroids and
shit like that and how doctors just don't listen to
you and having to go get a specialists to find
out that I had that. And I think it's just important.
(04:02):
There's so many women that are suffering with infertility, and
lots of definitely lots of black women. Lots of my
friends are still suffering. So yeah, I think it's just important.
Speaker 7 (04:14):
I know that was back in two thousand and six. Yeah,
and I've actually been through that.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
Yeah. So when I heard you talk.
Speaker 7 (04:20):
About it in the book, I was like, oh, shoot,
because it's like it just happens, like you don't even
know what happens.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Yep. After that happened, when you were.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
Looking to have your baby that you have, now, were
you a bit nervous about like if it would work out,
or like would you be safe during the pregnancy, Like
what were your thoughts?
Speaker 6 (04:35):
I was so nervous. I was so anxi and I'm
an anxiety written person, which is why I drink and
smoked so much weed to try to chill myself out.
I was so anxious. I was so nervous, and I
talk about in the book how I was like anxiety
master level when I was pregnant on the set of Queens,
because I was like, here, it is okay, I'm working,
which is great, and I'm so grateful and blessed, but
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is it to the detriment of my kid? Like am
I gonna lose this baby? Like I was literally going
to the doctor trying to hear the heartbeat just so
I could feel calm on set. So yeah, I was scared.
I was really really scared. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
You know, it's crazy when you were younger and you
don't know what anxiety and I guess you know the
depression is. Yeah, we all have those coping mechanisms because
they're all around. So whether it's in the lifestyle, in
the hood, just growing up, you see family members drinking
and then I know hip hop didn't help.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Oh yeah, yeah, smoked some more. What the fuck are
you crying? It's fine, I have a drink, Like no,
hell no, because everybody was doing it. Also, nobody was
using these words. Nobody was talking about anxiety, nobody was
talking about mental health, nobody's talking about depression. Like literally,
it was just like, all right, well you'll be all right,
you be all right, you be all right like that.
(05:44):
It was what it was, was.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
What it was when you realized you had a problem,
like you just.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Honestly, my d u I, my DUI was the time
that and not not even just the moment of the dui.
It was when I couldn't drink. It was when they
told me I had to where the ankle thing and
I have for drinking, Yeah, because what was it? You know,
back then they were giving out them fucking things for
some reason in La Yeah, the ankle monitor. For some reason,
they were giving them because they could tell through your
(06:11):
blood who that if you were drinking. So I had
fifty six days where I couldn't drink, and I was
so scared of that fifty six days because I couldn't
remember a time where I hadn't drank. So I even
begged my lawyer at the time, like, can I go
do community service at a hospice? Can I go? Like,
I'll do anything, and she was like, no, this is
what you have to do and say and I say
(06:33):
this in the book. It saved my life because it
was the first time in a very long actually not
even a very long time. It was the first time
I ever sat with my fucking emotions like, actual, why
am I drinking? What am I trying to cover up?
Why am I trying to numb myself? What is the problem?
And I had to sit with my shit and I
cried a fucking lot, and I needed it. I needed
it well.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
It was the biggest moment.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
And when when you were sitting with yourself what was
the biggest thing where you're like, dang, like I'm really
dealing with this.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
I can't believe this is something I have to deal with.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
Well cause I lived in l A too, so I
had a psychic lady. And I say that because you
know how it is in LA. But I believe you
know that Ship. I don't care some people are really
that's a media at a media. No, I don't. But
if you know somebody, no, Because so she was very
like and I and I take it for what is worth.
(07:21):
I take it for his word. She was very good.
She wasn't the type, she wasn't scary. She was just
like she just could read you, and it was more
like energetically. She was just like at one point I
would call her for everything because I didn't trust myself.
And one day she fired me and she was like no,
She was like, you're depending on me for too much.
(07:42):
She was like, I have to let you go really,
and I was like, oh, Ship, And that's why I
know she was good.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
My friends who got fired by their therapists are like
really messed up. So how did you get fired by its?
Speaker 4 (07:56):
I know?
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Did she call what was that called?
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Literally?
Speaker 6 (07:58):
I wouldn't even honestly, I would be like, can you
come do an energy clearing over here? Can you come
do this? And she was like. At one point I
called her and I was like just in this dark
place and she was like, you know what you need
to do. I am not responsible for you. You have
to figure this out. And this was during that time
the Duy. This was all that shit where I was
just trying to figure shit out and I at the
(08:18):
end of the day, you cannot look outside yourself, does
not matter who it is or what they do. You
have to look within. And that shit sounds cliche now
too sometimes, but it's the fucking real. It's the reallest
thing ever. So yeah, it just forced me to sit
with myself, talk to myself, go back to my roots,
go pray. Well, you know what I'm saying, Like, what.
Speaker 7 (08:37):
Was that moment in LA that you were about to
talk about When that was like this like the really
big dark moment that you got, It was just.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
It was me crying on the floor, depression, crying, crying
in a closet like literally and calling her like literally
calling her that's why I brought her up, and just
being like listen, I need you to help me figure
this out, and she's like, no, no, I'm sorry, like
you need to figure this out.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
At that time where we're friends, family, associates.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
So my other issue is that I push people away.
And that's another thing that I realized is emotionally, I
didn't grow up in a family that really talked. We
didn't say I love you, we didn't say I hate you.
If shit was bad, we screamed. Also, you just knew
you were loved. So I really just didn't know about
(09:19):
I didn't know communication. And I always felt like my
mom had me young, so I feel like we grew
up together, so I always felt like I needed to
be independent. She raised me very independent, fiercely independent. So
I think I was just like I need to deal
with the shit on my own. Plus I'm a scorpio,
like I think it has a lot to do with that.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Like I don't know, so, how were you as a
parent now, because I think my parents, probably Charlemagne's parents,
those older parents were always they never really show much love.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
They never said I love you. You knew it was there.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
And Philly like, listen, you better just get on with it.
I'm a fucking smother mother. I am a mother. I'm like,
and he's already like, Mama, get off me. But I
am so And I was actually scared that I wouldn't connect,
I swear to god. I was like, And my assister
in law told me that too, she has three kids,
(10:07):
and she was like, don't feel weird, because some women
sometimes just don't connect immediately. And I just thought, possibly
because of the way I grew up, maybe I won't
be you know what I'm saying. And it makes me
emotional because like, so, it's just it's a freedom. It's
so fucking nice. It's so fucking nice, and I fucking like,
(10:30):
I'm just gonna he's gonna be fucking spoiled and he's
gonna get away with a lot of ship.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
But are you Are you raising him out of fear
or love?
Speaker 6 (10:39):
Now that is a good question. Love for sure, love.
But I tackle with fear. I tackle with fear.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
So yeah, but you but you want him to be
in a position where he really calls mom regardless, you know,
because he even growing up, you call your parents when
you had to, had to. But now my son, he's
about to be twenty one, he calls his mom for everything,
And I love their relationship. Yeah, because I know that
if something happens, Mom, God iss back.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
You know that's real. I do because I could talk
to my mom buck and not and it's not her fault.
Like me and my mom now are like, it's not
her fault. It's how she grew up. I was scared
of my fucking mother, which is fine. I think a
little fear is important.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yes, you know, I probably scared for you growing up
on Murder Street, right. That's why I asked, what the
are you raising them out of fear of love?
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Because my parents raise us out of fear because they
didn't want us to end up in a bad situation.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I end up like them like my dad.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
No, I look at and i'm you know, I look
at where we live, where I'm at, Like I wake up,
I walk down the streets and like, damn, I live
in London, Like it's crazy, Like I still think like that.
I'm forty five, like you know, but I also appreciate it.
I also feel like I am greatly like thankful, and
I'm also greatly thankful that my kid's life is so
far removed.
Speaker 8 (11:57):
You shot every now and then just to you know,
don't keep it never.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Another good part in the book is the unbeknownst to
jay Z, he put a battery in your back.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
Yeah, early, yes, Yes, it's funny because that was one
of those things that we were like, do we put
this in there, because I know how people get But
it's nothing bad about that, you know, It's It's one
of those things where it was a very amazing phone
call that I needed. That was one of those I
always felt like I was an underdog anyway. And he
wasn't saying it out of malice or mean. That wasn't
(12:32):
about that. It was facts.
Speaker 8 (12:34):
Really it felt like he was trying to temple your expectation,
Yes exactly.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
But I was like, hh, okay, let me see. I'm
gonna show you. Yeah, it's all good. It's all good.
And it went on to be fine. But and like
I say in the book, we all have that person
that's something no matter what industry or whatever. You know
what I'm saying, we all have that thing or someone
says something they don't even fucking know that you're like, Okay,
(13:00):
I'm gonna use that, no problem.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
One of the dopest things I love is you talk
about your big brothers in the industry, right, because you
don't really hear that that much, And how Rough Riders
and all of them, you know, kind of was your
big brothers to make sure they protected you. Talk about
that a little bit because in this industry you hear
so many crazy stories. But they were showing up with knives,
guns and everything they needed to make sure you were safe.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
Listen, I was so fucking protected. I'm so forever grateful
as well that Rough Riders is the crew that I
come from. They respected me, protected me, celebrated me, allowed
me to be me at all times. And yeah, if
they had to shake you, niggasn't.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
That's one of the things I was wondering about. That's
how I was so excited to meet you. I was like,
I wonder how.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Much how Philly she's still gonna be?
Speaker 6 (13:48):
No Philly, I never that can never go, That can
never ever go. I do say words now and then
I will say my managers that he's from London. I
will say because for my baby, I try to keep
ship like consistent. So I do say rubbish sometimes and
I do say jumper, but Philly is always always. You
can't take it out of me. You can't take it
out of me.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Your baby's a bit older now, I know.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
I saw you talk about exposing your husband to like
Eve from Philly, Like, whatever, how do you what?
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Are you having those conversations with your baby yet?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Are you?
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Is he back and forth? Like, are you doing that
exposure to Yes?
Speaker 6 (14:22):
No, he comes back and forth to Philly. Will be
there in a few days. He was just there a
few months ago, playing with his cousins, like and I
love that because it's a different vibe and I love that,
and I feel like he needs that, and it's gonna
be such a rich childhood for him because England is
so different and his cousins. Yes, he does, he says, garage, garage,
(14:44):
Wait till he says, John, Wait, I need to start
teaching him that now.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, you know, and the things fall apart.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Chapter you said that you feel like the spirit of
the rough Riders died with DMX God blessed the dead
when that r r chapter of your life clothes. Did
you you feel a sense of grief with that as well?
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Yes, yes and no. Yes in the sense of obviously
with X because of X one, but know in the
sense that we've all kind of gone off and been
doing our own shit for so long in between all
of that, because you know, before he died, may he
rest we were supposed to do a rough riut of tour.
(15:26):
We have been talking about a rough out of tour,
so yes and no, Yes and no.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
I always wanted to know the Rough Riders record, right, yeah,
the remix when you were on it?
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Did you know what it was? As soon as you
heard that record? Break that down? When as soon as
you heard Rough Riders anthem and.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Oh no, you know what?
Speaker 6 (15:44):
I knew. I knew it was a fucking dope verse.
I did know that. I was like, nah, this this
is this is because this is the thing. The way
that they had us all in the studio, it was
healthy competition. So I knew that verse. I knew it.
I was like, this is the verse. I didn't know
what it was going to do from that, but I
knew that I was holding my own I didn't really
feel it until I heard it on the radio and
(16:05):
I was like, wow, that's what I sound like like.
And I didn't sound like they were carrying me like
I knew it, Like I was like, okay, I'm supposed.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
To be here.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Was that that moment that I.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
Was that moment that on the radio. That was that moment.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah, yeah, I was gonna ask you get tired of
telling the same stories over and over, right, because listening
to your hip hop stories since you've been up here,
since we finally I know the stories.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Like I know the May story.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
I know I'm forty six.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Lauren, who's thirty two, it's brand new to her.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
I knew the main story.
Speaker 7 (16:41):
I'm from Delaware though, so the way we connected Delaware, No,
but Eve, it's right there, Like, yeah, so I knew
that only because of that.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
But there are a lot of people.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
I saw people reacting online when when like episodes of
the book were being picked up who didn't know that?
Speaker 6 (16:55):
Does that freak you out at all? Like when people
are like some of it? Because what's what's annoying to me.
I was talking about this the other day. It was
annoying to me is yes, like I've talked about the
stripper thing, right. What's annoying to me about it, though,
is that people fixate so much on it still that
I'm like, bitch, I was eighteen, it was I was
too long, it was toomn and I was lazy and
the craziest thing about that is not that I was stripper,
(17:15):
I was just saying it yesterday, is that I was
rapping with my tenmies, Like that's the crazier thing. And
on top of.
Speaker 8 (17:21):
That, but but on top of that, the revelation of
that is the situation that happened with the conversation, and
that no one chooses to go there and say like,
oh damn, that was a dope moment.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
No, she's just a fucking st like, bro, are you serious?
Like so that annoys me and I actually that was
one of those things where I was like, do we
put this in the book again? But then I felt
like people who did know my story might be like, oh, well,
why shouldn't talk about that? So yeah, I don't know. Yes,
it gets annoying, but that's I think that was another
reason for doing this book, because I'm like, these are
the stories. Yes, there's some shit that I have already
(18:00):
talked about. I will go deeper on that and then
now I'm good. Now it's time to move on.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
But it's also because got a new resurgence. What it shows.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
Yes, yes, yes, yes that's true, that's true, but but no,
crazily enough, people don't even say his name to me.
They just talked about the stripping really yes, like it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yeah, basically just telling you don't have to do this.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
Yeah, I mean he was literally telling me. He was
just like, what do you want to do? He was
he was the first person that really asked those questions
where I was already questioning why am I here? What
the fuck am I doing?
Speaker 4 (18:30):
For the record, every man says that to the badest script,
you don't have to the girls do it too.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
I'm like that, I do have the girl outside of here, but.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
I do that as well.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
Yeah, my friends be like, please put Lawrence cash up
away because she just because I'd be like, dang you
in nursing school.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
All of y'all in nurses school.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Did the TV show Eve? Yes, the name of the
show was Eve. Yeah, but your character's name Michelle. I
know why.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
That's what the network wanted. And then they was like, oh,
like the Cosby's where it was they were the Huxtables,
but his name was Cosby, so everybody knew to show
trust me. I tried to fight him. They I had.
I tried to fight him.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
That's another part of your life. I feel like doesn't
get talked about enough. You had a sitcom to me,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
That did well?
Speaker 6 (19:20):
Yeah, that did well. I was very very lucky it
did well. And I didn't take it as seriously as
I feel like I should have or could have. And
I talk about that in the book. I don't believe
in regrets, but probably that's my only one of my
only ones where I just didn't take it as seriously
as I could have. Would different I would have shown
(19:40):
up to table reads, not coming straight from the club.
I would not be having after parties in my dressing
room I was doing, Yeah, but I was the youngest
one set and I was trying to figure out how
I was a real rapper, Like literally, like I was
having after party. We've come from the club, go to
my dressing room, and then I'm like I gotta be
on set, like and did not realizing like how many people,
(20:06):
how many the crew? You know what I'm saying. Like,
So I just I really would have done that differently.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yes, does Eve care about the industry at all at
this point.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
In earlier No, not really, Yeah, not really, not in
the same way. Definitely not, I think because I did
go through so much torment within myself that now it's
kind of PTSD to a certain extent. So I feel
like that's why I do dip in and out, because
I know, I think it's I think it's healthy for me.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
What was the torment?
Speaker 7 (20:33):
Because you keep talking about questioning yourself, second guessing yourself
and non torment, like, what was it?
Speaker 6 (20:39):
It was all personal shit. It was all personal shit
mixed with I don't think. I think at the time,
I probably was depressed, but I just didn't know it, honestly,
which is why I did drink as much as I drank.
But I just didn't understand it. I just didn't know it.
And I also did have no one to talk to
about it. The times that I would go cry to people,
(21:01):
they'd be like, You'd be all right, like you know
what I'm saying. So then I'm like, well, what's wrong
with me? Like literally, okay, then maybe I'm I don't know,
maybe I'm not supposed to be here. It was a
lot of that kind of questioning am I truly happy?
Am I only doing? And is this what I'm supposed
to be doing? And then I think, yeah, it was.
It was a lot of my own personal torment.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
It really was.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, I got to ask about.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
You know the cat woman comment. Right, Oh, like people
forget who you are and all the things that you do.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Work for a long long what is that?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
What does that come from? Like, like, do y'all.
Speaker 8 (21:34):
Know there's nothing, there's.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
No listen if you could do it, if you get great,
God bless you. If that's what you want and that's
who you are. I have zero personally, I have zero
problems with it. I think it's a disservice to who
I am and what I've done and what I built
for myself. That's why I have a problem with it. Like, yeah, okay, yeah,
I married this dude. I'm not gonna marry a broke dude.
That's real, Like, but he's not. I think people also
(22:00):
put on him more than what he is, and he's
not that we we do stuff for each other together,
Like he's just a dude I fell in love with.
Like he's a billionaire, right, he's not a billionaire?
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Oh, because that was always the headlines.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
Even I'm like, and that's why I'm like, no, he's
not a billionaire.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
A bird by the way he looked.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Millions, you know.
Speaker 8 (22:26):
No.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
But at the same time, like, no, I'm not I'm
not kept. If I didn't want to work, it'd be fine.
But it's just who I am to the core, to
my DNA, like I just it's just who I am.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
And how was the transition to London? When you decided
to move to London?
Speaker 6 (22:44):
It was one place though, it was one place and
it was good and they were from the They did
have Ammarosso's bread, which was the good bread, but then
I think they shut down.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Okay, So how was moving to million sixty million?
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Where the billionaire thing came from?
Speaker 6 (22:57):
I don't know. I think maybe because he's white and British.
Speaker 8 (23:02):
You never said.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Yeah, I mean, I swear to God that matter in
fact checked that.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
I just maybe because he is white in British.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
I thought, because I'm gonna be honest, I never.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Said it was you.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
And then it was Remember when Rihanna was with the Yeah,
they had like photos of y'all like girls, we can
do it.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
We can know it.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
There were means. Yeah, that's why I remember how much
money I thought he was worth.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
So I was a transition to moving to London.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
No cheese steak, No, it was hard. The first two
years were really brutal, definitely, and I still have moments
where I missed, like conveniences and things. I know. British people,
I love you because you're different.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
You good, You use.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
The warm, but some of them ain't warm. Some of
them could be cold. It's hard to get in there,
Like it took a minute. It takes a minute. It
takes a minute, and it's still weird and different. But
I've been there ten years, like it is actually home.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Like so when you get a presidential race, you'd be like, God,
I'm just gonna stay in lonon.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
No, but I'm still vote. And from that I already
put in my ABSENCEY make sure y'all get like, because
it's important because I'm still American. I am American, and
I do care what happens here because at once, at
some point, I want to come back with my kids,
so he experience I wanted to go to college here,
like that is my goal, Like I want him to
come back, and I pray by then that the country
is what it needs to be.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
All imagine being Eve's kid in college. Your dad we
already thought to you dad was a billionaire. Your mom
is Eve, and you just pop up in college with
this crazy accent that people are gonna love seeing John
like he's gonna have a great time in college.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
We gotta talk about NYU. What are you?
Speaker 6 (24:32):
Yeah, So I am Professor Jeffu's cooper. Now I'm doing
there Steinhardt residency year residency. So basically I get to
teach whatever I want or just come and just I
won't say vibe because it's more than that. But it's
like conversations about who I am, what I am, what
they offer, and then we're gonna do like a big
event in the spring with some of the students from there,
(24:55):
the musicians, everything like that. So this is a huge
deal for me because I mean I never knew this
was even available, Like I would have never even thought
this was something. So I'm very very honored to be
there that. Yeah, what is it called residency? But is
it scholar and resident?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yes? So do you have to be there?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
It'll be I do so.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
No, so I have to do two. I'm doing my
first event next Saturday, just like meet and greet, and
then I do my first official one in November.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
You have a curriculum and everything.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
Yeah, first official one in November, I'm going to do
one in London, and then in the spring back here
and then if I want to continue, then we'll see
what happens.
Speaker 7 (25:33):
But when you're here, does your family, like your husband
and all you guys kids come with you.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
The baby is here, but my husband is doing gumball,
which is how we met. His rally it's my first
one I haven't done in ten years. But and then
in Asia, so hi baby, Yeah, we met on the gumball.
I was driving on the gum ball.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yes, it's a long drive.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
It's three thousand miles and seven days much. I know
it's a lot. But you need coal driver, Just get
a dope even get like to look at me selling it. Listen,
two coal drivers, somebody for the music, somebody to make
sure you could drink one night and then then the
next person drive. Like, if you want to do it,
I will map it out for you. I promise. It's
(26:15):
something I feel like everybody should experience.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
I wanted to do it and then broadcast from the
different countries.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
No, I'm telling you do it, and I swear and
I'm not even saying it just because I'm his wife.
It's one of the best times I've ever had. That
when when that week comes around, like I'm really sad.
I'm missing it, like really sad. But I mean bum
Beat does it, and my big bro like he does
it every year, so please do it. Y'all should do it.
Y'all should do it next year.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
I know that, No, do it.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I can't commit to that doing my anxiety set up.
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
You can drive. It's not a race, it's a rally.
It's a lot for him. Oh yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
It is a lot.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
You bored because you are creative, you know what I'm saying,
just like okay, okay.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
No, Well, because I don't drink or anything like that anymore.
I do. I have an occasional drink. I ain't smoking
weed in London, no disrespect to anybody in London, but
it's just different. I don't know to write people. I
know one dude that's smoke, but I don't even know,
like I'm cool, So I've stopped. I've stopped, but yeah, no,
(27:23):
I don't know. My son is everything. And then I
chill like I do chill. But I did say this
to a friend of mine. I'm not doing anything creatively
to feed my soul. I mean this book helped a lot,
just writing because I shout out to Kathy by the way,
my co writer. She's amazing and has her own credits
and amazing books on her own. But writing doing this
(27:44):
process with her actually helped me a lot. And we're
already thinking about the next book. So yeah, but I
do need to do more creative things to feed my soul.
I believe that you still all I write poems more.
I went back to that because that's where I kind
of first started that being said. We are talking about
because this book also falls around the twenty fifth anniversary
of my first album, so yes, let that be eve.
(28:05):
So we are talking about reworking stuff to put it
out next year, so there will be some new stuff
next year.
Speaker 7 (28:10):
If you rework stuff or like do anything music wise,
would you add any of the new girl artists.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
I definitely want to. I definitely want to. We're still
talking about top three go to Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
That's hard.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
I ain't even gonna lie because we've been talking about it.
Because ultimately, I don't want to do anything that looks
like I'm just jumping on some shit just to jump
on it. I feel like it needs to be it
has to be organic and write for those kinds of
those records, So we're still figuring it out.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
I feel like would make a lot of sense.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
But the interesting thing about Eve, like Eve, you're such
a one on one even now, I can't think of
any body who I would compare it because she.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Did sexy rap, but then she did the positive raps.
She did the women's empowerment rap, but then she also
did that.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Right to think about who to put on stuff.
Speaker 7 (28:57):
To be honest, the meaning of like come out of
Philly is just a little bit different too. And this
girl's coming out of Philly like they got rocky amazing,
Like there's girls that are trying to come out of Philly,
but they haven't hit like a sexy red or like yet.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
So I don't know if if the.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
I mean, but I'm yeah, I don't know. I had
to figure it out. I mean, the dope to do
a whole Philly like female.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Something to what the thought process was back then, because
when you came out, like I'm just thinking about it,
you did you wasn't in a single a box, right,
You did the sexy rap at times, but then you
did the women empowerment rap, but then you.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Remember even doing sexy rap, she just was a flying chick.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
No, but I think yeah, the demeanor was sexy though, Yeah,
it was very much like yeah.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
I don't think yeah. Lyrically, I don't think I really
went there. But when it came to maybe like yeah style, it.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Was Yeah, it wasn't force.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Was that was that?
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Was that forced when you thought about it? Or was
that something that you was conscious of doing? Or is
that was just eve?
Speaker 6 (29:53):
It was just me? It was just honestly, it was
just me. It was what I wanted to show. My
easiest album, I think was the first album because I
feel like I was writing the album my whole life.
It was the other albums that I literally had to
think about, the second album, the third album. But that
being said, I kind of just did what I felt.
I kind of just did what I felt like I
(30:13):
wanted to do. Yeah, it wasn't no herem or reason
when you.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Did love his blind Was the label behind it or
they was like this is totally from what's out now?
Speaker 6 (30:22):
I was shocked that they were behind it. I was
actually really shocked, especially that early in my career with
rough Riders, but they were. They were completely behind it.
I think once I added the third verse where I
also popped them like it also, Yeah, it was like
I think that was fine, but yeah, they were totally
behind it.
Speaker 7 (30:40):
Yeah, well we I know you said earlier that you
guys have been talking about a reunion before DMX pass.
Would you or would y'all consider doing something like that
now without him being here? You feel like it couldn't
be done without him.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
I don't know. I would leave that up to D
and Y to figure out. I think that would be
up to them, and if they want to bring us together,
I'll always be there, of course, but I think it's
more up to them to figure it out.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
You know, in the Hollywood chapter, you talk about going
to the Church of Scientology.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Could you explain to the people what the hell made
you do that?
Speaker 6 (31:11):
Because I got invited by somebody who I.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Was like, yes that.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
I was like, well, if you're going, I just need
to see Plus I'm very much Bart Simpson like, I'm
very much. I will touch the fire just to make
sure it's fire. And when the hell else am I
going to get into the celebrity Scientology censor. I was
scared of ship. The whole time I was in there.
I did not eat the food. That was like they're
gonna yes and bring it.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Crazy.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
I don't want to say because I don't even know
if it's she's I don't want to out nobody because
I don't even know she's still doing it. So only
for those reasons. Child, that ship was crazy and I
was hungover. That was the other thing.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
I remember that.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
That's why I was so stressed. But it was very weird.
You definitely got to read that chapter.
Speaker 7 (32:07):
So you walked in and is there like access codes
or like the people with you? There's like people everywhere
in every like there are people everywhere watching everything, and there.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
Are special people to walk you today. It was they
all wear the same thing like it was crazy.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Was it one of those things where you felt like,
since I'm in the industry now, I guess I should
be doing this because this is what people in the
industry do.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Well.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
I was more curious because of this person. We had
kind of had a light like friendship. It wasn't like
a but because we were getting to know each other.
So I was curious in that way of like, oh interesting,
why what made her do that? Let me go see Meanwhile,
obviously I'm still on this. What am I doing? What's
going on, But I quickly was like, this is not No.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
You told your family about that?
Speaker 6 (32:54):
What they say? No, like my mom.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
Yet all the rules of mom and grandma wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Have been with the psychic town.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
I know, No, they wouldn't have been with it, like
my grandmother for sure. My mom now she's like whatever,
she's like, you are who you are now like Crystal's
stage or she knows who I am.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
But back then, no, New Newton, what your mom still
in the hall?
Speaker 6 (33:14):
No, No, my mom's not. My grandmother is Grandma? My
grandmother is still waiting for thousand.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Yes she sliff you watched out and the waits every
now and then.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
No, she's actually good. She leaves she honestly, she leaves
us alone. But that's her thing.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
It's all good.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
You know what I wanted to ask you to even
Destruction chapter you talk about your time with Aftermath, and
you know when you got dropt from the.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Label, Dray didn't even bother to call you.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
How was it when things came full circle? You done
blew up and y'all ended up doing let me blow
your mind? Did y'all even did you bring that up
to him? Like you know, you ain't even call me when.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
You No, I didn't even need to. I remember before
we even did Blow Your Mind, we did the Source
Awards and I was like, yeah, I'm on the same
stage as you with the Rough Riders, like so it
went from that to Jimmy being like, y'all need to
get back in the studio do a song. And it
was kind of just me being so extra extra Philly,
like yeah, okay, well let me hear it, beat let
(34:08):
me hear it, like so extra like. So we never
ever discussed it, but we also knew Listen dra is
one of the greatest, like right, so I knew he
was going to get it out of me. I just
I made it hard. I made it hard.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Yeah. Yeah, they album the book.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Who's That Girl?
Speaker 6 (34:29):
Thank you for having me?
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Final question about Who's that Girl? Yes, who were you
at the start of this book? And who would you
say you are?
Speaker 6 (34:37):
That's a good question. At the start. I definitely tried
to write it like an interview, and Kathy actually checked
me on that because she was like, look, I don't
want to take you back to trauma, but you need
to emote for people to understand where you're coming from.
So I think I was slightly guarded. And then as
I went through it and I'm getting I dont know,
(34:59):
I'm getting emotional. First time asked me this question. I
just feel like all that ship that I had on,
like one of my healers used to call it an
invisible backpack of ship of other people, ship of your
ship like that ships off and listen, my life's been great.
This is This is not a book about being like
(35:20):
fun that. This is not a book. This is a
book about me realizing how as much as I say
I was in this personal tourm turmoil term turmoil turmoil,
how determined I was to believe in myself to get
to a certain place, and that at the end of
the book, I was like, damn, I'm proud of myself.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
So yeah, memoir out right now for joining us.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
I did not expect tears to like at all, but
thank you for having me. I ain't seen now, y'all
just be hinder.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
You can let it flow. We need it for the content.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Hanging up the tissues right, let me throw it all right,
it's the breakfast Club is Eve.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
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