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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Breakfast Club Morning, everybody in Steve j n V, Jess Hilarius,
Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got
a special guest in the building. Indeed, got the brother
Ken Ivy a k A. Pimpy Can welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Are you feeling? Said hilarious?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
How are you, sir man? I'm well man who is
pimp and can for people who don't.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Know well, you know, uh A lot of times when
people say Pimpy Can, they put a period right, but
they need to put a common I'm also an author.
I wrote two books, Apologies for the Loss, The Game,
also The Art of Human Chest. I'm also the founder
and chairman of the Hip Hop Fraternity I CEEO from
New York James C. B. Gray you know he's also
(00:47):
part of I'm also a manager Mike Fresh know the
ass in the circle. Ye like that? Okay, he's signed
to me. Also have several businesses. Know, I have my
own social media site, have my own a teacher of magazine.
We do our award show in Atlanta every year. All
the celebrities come. So you know, I'm a college of everything.
(01:11):
You know what I'm saying But I started off as
a young hustler in the streets of Chicago. I got
caught up early, called the case tempted murder. Wasn't really
a tempted murder. They just was just in the racial
part of Chicago O Park, and they just gave us
the worst charge they gave. But I was fourteen, so
(01:34):
my mother moved me to Milwaukee. Got to Milwaukee, called
another case, and then you know, I just started my journey,
you know, in the streets. And then eventually, you know,
I was robbing banks and went to the fans and
went to the state present. I was like, man, you know,
this ain't working. So when I got out, ended up
(01:55):
getting in another game, the film game, and I became
a legendary pimple year, International pimple year. We did a
movie called Pimpupos Downer did American Pimp, you know, And
I became this infamous pimp. You know fifty Now you
know fifty and fifty? Did that sound problem? Child? I
feel a pimp like king, Why the hose don't treat you?
All the rappers started rapping about me. Then when that
(02:16):
movie came out, you know, Charlamagne and Envy hilarious It's
just I had to make a change because now I'm exposed.
It was like I snitched on myself, so to speak,
you know what I'm saying. And so my daddy said, boy,
you're fool. You just told everybody your business. So while
HBO was shooting the movie, I would shooting my movie too, Heypology.
So that's the movie that's on Instagram now at Pimpy
(02:38):
can podcast. I got that on on that right now.
You know, it's for free, but I made millions of
dollars off of it. It was all on BT commercials and
stuff like that. Then I also got into daycare businesses.
I got into the retail stores and I just started
becoming the business man. And next thing you know, I'm
in Atlanta, and uh that's when Big Meat was kind
(03:01):
of popping and I'm down there and Jamaine Trepez said, hey, man,
I wanted to be on my album. So the album Instructions,
that's me on there with money Holes and Powered Me
and Umbe. And then after that, Lord John called me.
I did two albums with him. I did two songs
with two short I did a song with Eve forty down,
five songs with Pempci. I did about five songs with
(03:24):
pastor Troy Puffy. He had me do a song with Loom,
So I did a song with Loom. I'm on that
Loom album too. And that's crazy because I was just
talking to a man house for his asking me about Puffy.
I said, man, you know, I don't have the perspective
everybody have. You know, my relationship with Puffy was always business.
You know Puffy, you know, he called me said say, man,
(03:47):
what is your publishing company? I didn't even know what
the Puppisher coming was. I said, a kid, I even
published it. And you know Puffy, you know, he kind
of gave me some game on the publisher and that's
how I'm able to receive residuals years later after you know,
getting that game from Puffect. You know Puffey. You know,
he invited me to his parties and ship, you know cus,
but he invited me to the party and you know
(04:08):
I come there. You know it was all player, you know,
like you know, me and Bishop do One went to
justice here in New York, and I never seen that
type of I was talking to g Depth yesterday and
me and gl I said, I don't I don't know
about that. I ain't you know, I don't know what
them people talking about. I said that man, he's always
been a gentleman. He's always been a player with me,
you know, a street dude, you know. And you know
(04:30):
that's that's just the relationship that I had with him. But
you know, that's one of the things I was saying
about loom I was on his album, so and then
who else I have my idea. So I did the
fifty joint Sharina Baby's Boy with who Kid. That's me
doing the narration and talking on all that. I did
the P I M P video, I did Cuckoo Cayle video.
(04:52):
You know, uh yeah, you did a lot. Yeah, but
the biggest thing I did was just recently young man
by the name of King More. Y'all can look him up.
He just in one money did two point five million views.
I just sent him to the White House and representing
my organization with Sister Castlebery, Henandez and Tony Mercedes representing
(05:14):
the youth department of the Hip Hoppternity. But it was
spearheaded by our brother James c. Be Great. You know.
So we have a relationship with the White House, you know,
with the anti gun violence Ice He is also a
member of my organization. He's my national advisor. So he
did a stop the violence campaign for the White House,
you know, and we sent that up to there, and
you know, so he was supposed to come, but he
(05:36):
was overseas. So you know, that's some of the things
that we're doing. You know, we sending we're working with
the White House, We're working with sister are you sure
the Court? So what's the name of James? I also
stay Cool and you know with the what's it called
again anti gun violence? Yeah, but it's it's called Street
(05:56):
Corner Resources, right, So with the Street Corner Resources and uh,
you know, so that's just what I'm about. Man. You know,
I made the transition, you know, more on a corporate thing.
You know, my son, you have watched that All American.
That's my son American number fourteen, the light skinned son
Ken Ivy. That's my real son. Wow, he's on there.
(06:17):
He's also in the movie called Play the Flute. He's
the only black dude in the movie and he owned
by but you go to itself what they call it
ib B. Yeah, he's on about ten or fifteen movies.
So you know, my other sons Supreme that won the
Great Supreme. You know, he's also doing well. He's into
the music industry. So you know, even though I was
(06:38):
in the game, you know, I raised my children different.
All my kids went to college, right, you know, because
I didn't want them to go through what I went through,
you know, because you know I've been shot five times.
You know, did many years in the penitentiary. You know,
just was in the game out here bad. You know,
so that wasn't the lifestyle for my children. I was
able to make that transition. So now one of them
(06:59):
ever seen.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Me as did your lifestyle, you know, ever make women
leary of you because you know, you introduce us to
your wife when she was like, hell no, I don't
want to get married to you.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
You a pimp. Well you know it ain't it ain't
even like that, you know what I'm saying. You know,
I'm you know, I'm my mama's boy. I want need
this boy. You know that's my mother, right, So she
know me as you know, kin you son, she slapped
me upside of my head. Now sick, she still slap
me upside of my head. So you know that's how
she look at me. You know, But you know a
(07:31):
lot of people they got a misinterpretation of pimping, right,
in order to be a pimpy, gotta have a hope.
Unless your hope, it don't apply to you. If you
ain't in the game, it don't make no difference. You
know what you're doing, you know, so when you're dealing
with people, you know what I'm saying. You know, like
most people, if you notice Charlamagne and DJM, you know
a lot of people got a lot of good things
to say about Pimpy can Because I'm an honorable dude.
(07:53):
You pimping ain't who I am. It's what I did,
you know, So that don't make that don't define me.
You know. So I'm a whole different person now, So
you know what I'm saying. When I like I said,
I sent all ma Chuldren in college, you know what
I mean. I deal with people on a whole different level. Now,
let's go back. So when you were a pimp, what's
the most hoes you had at one time? Sixteen?
Speaker 4 (08:13):
I love it, Okay, I'm just saying like, because I
never talked to like a real pimp before.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Well, not who he is now, but who he was.
You know, Well, what he did sixteen.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I was going to ask how did you get your
how did you get your start? Like, you know, your
first introduced to what her say?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I was introd how was introduced to it?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Like like when you're introduced to the drug game, somebody
introduces you to your first whatever it is. If you
introduce to this, like, so, who introduced you to pimp?
And it said I can make some money off of this?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Okay? So envy we was uh Robin Banks and Robin
Lse So it's a partner. My name and divine JD. Right.
So when I get out of the boys' school, I
go to his house. He got three chicks, right, I said, man,
let me hear one of them. He said, which one
you want to want? The one that life right there
there with the pussy candy strike you know? So he
said cool, he said it is yours. And then that's
(09:04):
how I ended game. Her name was Dirty Red. I
talked about it in my book. So that's how it became,
you know, a piece. So a brother n ain't stychild,
you know what I'm saying. He made rest in PC
died from COVID just two years ago. That brother was like, hey, man,
Ken you know, you got to be like this. You
got to, you know, try to take another man's broad.
You got to, you know, give a woman's structure, actually
(09:25):
what she come from. Who was a mama? Who are
daddy woo woo? Find everything about the bro So he
was giving me the game, and I ended up taking
one of his broads. So when I took his brod,
like I said, a lot of jeurey from Robin Jewey stoes,
I gave him a chain, so he kept my chain.
He was very unpivol like because he couldn't accept the servant.
You know, I was serving the news blue refuse and
put his girl up on some new rules. You know
what I'm saying. When we're even having that, you know,
(09:46):
So you know that's how I get into that game.
Then I went back to prison. So when I went
back to prison, you got to remember, I'm thinking, like, man,
I'll make some dumb moves. I mean, here I got
women giving me money and I'm still hustling. So when
I got there, I met a guy by the name
of Pimp and Pope. He said, Ken, you know, to
be in his game, you got to have a triple bypass.
(10:06):
You got to have all the sympathy, move out your heart,
you know. He said, you know you can't be sympathetic.
And then I said, well, what you doing in here
with me? Homie? He said, oh, man, you know this dude.
You know he got one of my girls. And the girl,
you know, she was so dedicated. You know, she had
light his cigarettes before he put in his mouth. She
would feed his stummay when he grown. He said, that's
what we do. We give instructions. You know what I'm saying,
(10:27):
That's what it's all about. He said. The game is
a game of soul. So I'm listening to the dude
and I'm getting the game from him, and you know
what I'm saying. It clicked to me. I was doing
it all wrong, you know what I'm saying. I said, Man,
you know I can't fall in love. I can't ain't
no love in this game. Love fall in love with
all the girls. I can't fall in love with nobody.
I didn't even fall in love. I just he just
showed me the game and clicked in my head. And
(10:48):
that's when I became the terrist. You know. With the game,
then you got a member, you know. Charloagne talked about
mental health. I was. I believe I was going through
some mental things because I was molested by my babysit
or young lady when I was years old. And then
when I was in prison, my mama left me for dead.
She never came to see me, but she's come to
see my brother all the time. So you know what
I'm saying. That gave me a disdain for women. So
(11:09):
you know what I mean when I deal with women.
You know, and this man already telling me, I got
to have a triple bypass. See, you can't have no sympathy.
It was easy for me to get in that game.
So when I got in that game, you know, I
was matched with no passion. I was matched for my
ration with no passion. You know. So I ain't had
no feelings. People s asked me, how do you feel
I feel with my hands? So that was the mentality
that I had, So that caused me to be desensitized.
(11:32):
It wasn't until I had my first child, which is Kiki,
my daughter. You know. When I had Kiki, then I
changed my mentality. You know, if you change your mentality,
can change your reality, right, So I changed my mentality
and then I started having loved because that was the
first time I really experienced love, love love, you know,
and so my daughter, you know, she just kind of
just made me make a lot of different life decisions.
(11:54):
And then I realized, you know that, hey man, you know,
maybe you can, you know, do some different things. And
when I actually got out the game, you know what
I'm saying, me, I had a whole different perspective, you know,
on women, you know, and I forgave my mother, you know,
for what she done. You know, I mean, I love
my mother the death of it, just with her, and
you know, but it was kind of traumatizing because you know,
(12:15):
I'm in jail and I can't and see her, you
know what I'm saying. So it just made me feel like,
you know, man, ain't got no respect for nobody. I'm
cold hearted. I'm out here. You know, whatever happened happened.
And unfortunately, that's what makes a good pimp. Unfortunately, it
makes a good pimp because when you're dealing with women
out there that's in their lifestyle, they're dealing with hundreds
of men's every day. You know, they don't have no sympathy, right,
(12:39):
you know, you got to be cold hearted to break
a trick, you know, and get some money from a man.
And know this man is married, Know this man is
in a relationship, but you know, you can't, you know,
deal with her. So when you deal with the female,
she come home, she's trying to run game on you too.
You know, I believe God gave a woman the same
thing you gave you, a skunk, a white striper belly
(12:59):
for the fun, you know. So they banging the funk
home and they banging the drama. So you got to
deal with that. And if you don't deal with that,
even if you look at the you know, the Bible,
you know it says the fall of man. Right when
you talking about the fall of man, what are you
talking about? You're talking about how some woman e allegedly
we're gonna say allegedly because we don't know people's prefaces,
(13:20):
right in terms of religion, Allegedly this woman deceived him
and he was that's how you got naked. So if
that's the mentality in the Bible, that's the first chapter Genesis,
the fall of man. We know that the woman has
always been the challenge for the man.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Vers two though, yeah, yes, sir, because I mean you
said it yourself, like, you know, you had so much
hurt and so much pain in your heart for women
that you treated women a certain ways. So if you're
already approaching the situation like that, she's probably gonna feel
that energy.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
So that's gonna be resistance.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Right right, absolutely, So I was gonna ask, I mean,
you call them holes, but when these women came to you,
did they come to you or did you sort them out?
Did they come for you for protection and help or
wasn't one of those things where you found like.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
How did it work for people? Because when people.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Here pimps, right, they all think of old school pimps,
beat a girl up, put them on the corner in
the Bronx or on the corner on the old forty
second street and make sure.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
So how did these women come to you? Well, you know,
once you get in the game, you know, you get
chose with your mouth clothed. You know, it's about choice,
not about force, you know. So I was always rose Woice,
So always tell them, let your choice be Rose Woice.
And what I mean by that is that a lot
of young dudes out here they selling these brash dreams.
They're like, hey, you know what I'm saying, get with me.
I'm gonna buy your Rose Voice, I'm gonna buy a Callak,
(14:37):
and we're gonna buy some mixes and diamonds. Well I
was already pulling up with that, so I was the dream,
you know what I'm saying. So because you selling this
woman a dream, she said, hey, man, I don't want
to be with any no more. I want to be
with Ken. So she had choose up on me. When
she choose up on me, I'll call you. You could
break the plate.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Man.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
That woman don't eat there no more. That's what I mean.
You know, you know she didn't choose up. She did.
She let her choice be Rose Voice. You know, she
didn't choose down shows up. So then I am then
you're gonna be like, oh man, you know, and then
in the game it's a non context sport. You would
have to accept that. So it's a it's actually.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
A non context sport. So in the game, there was
no you're not coming from you. I'm confused, non contact.
You lose your girl, that's it.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah. Yeah, once you get knocked, man, you got to
accept it, you know what I'm saying, Especially if you
get knocked by Knockarachi That was me. You know what
I'm saying. They called me Knockarachi because I was knocking everything. Then,
when Neil Doe came to New York back in ninety one,
and every time I would peel the dudes in New
York for this girl, I give him a Wall Street Journal.
But now I say, man, it's in the news. You've
been peeled for the Broad And they be like, man,
this dude is crazy. He from Milwaukee. He's tripping. Then
(15:35):
I put ketchup on it by the by they wheels
and say, man, you know my game is stick is high.
You'll never be thick as mine. You need to ketch
up because you've been in the mustard, you know. And
then that actually put ketch up by people. Yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah huh.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
That was like your calling card.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Now that was when I were not knocking for the Broad.
I let him know, like, man, listen, you know I
didn't peel you. You know what I'm saying. You know, you
give a Chinese name one gone imagine like him with well,
oh my god, I just squirt ketchup. Squirt catch has
(16:11):
only fans killed? Pipping? Can can pimps? Can there be
pimps down?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Because women now can go.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Only fans make their own money. Well, you know, only fans.
It's like you know, one brother was telling me, you
know about man the game and change. I said, bro,
check this out. I said, Man, when we was kids,
they had typewriters. Now you've got dumb people with smartphones.
I said, you know, the game has changed. You know,
it's elevation. You know, even if you look at your Facebook.
You know, when you first started Facebook, it was technologically
(16:38):
advanced as is today on Instagram. So life evolves, like
Darblin said, evolution. So when you see evolution, you got
to evolve, you know. So these young people, they got
to evolve. So me, you know, this is my hope
right here. She don't argue with me, She don't fight
with me. Charlamagne can't pimper. You can't pemper. Only can
can pemper? So pipp and can That's what I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Well, I'm saying a bunch of copies of that book
and sell it for double yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
But you have to pay me sell for double yeah.
But I'm what I'm saying, Charlamagne is that you know
I don't have no headaches with this. With you know
what I'm saying, I don't have no headaches with the
hip hop fraternity. You know what I'm saying, mean building
young people, you know, teaching about cryptology. Ask cap be
on my your teaching him about you know, tune core,
(17:23):
you know, intellectual property, you know, how to get a
lawyer and stuff like that, you know, and uh, you know,
bringing in investors, you know, like we're trying to get
investors now, you know, right now we bringing in investors
because we'll ce Corp. You know, so we're trying to
you know, I get that from your man too, John O'Brien. Yeah, man,
I get a lot. I made you make sure an event,
you know, mister Hope, you know, he give us a
(17:44):
lot of game. My man, Valentin, don't give me a
lot of game, Big Silk, give me a lot of game.
They just teach me about, you know, a whole another
level of getting money, you know. So we just get money.
Tony Mercedes and oh yeah, my man, uh I do
it show boss talk, he said, thank him, thank you
for always mention them. So yeah, I just and then
you know, I'm on I'm doing podcasts. I'm with Trigger
(18:05):
with ugly money, Ugly money. I'm a co host on
that you know you I needed. I want to do
something with you too, man, I want to bring my
show over to y'all black effect. Okay, you don't try
to know no more? What's the hip Hop Fraternity? Break
that down for? Uh?
Speaker 3 (18:22):
James, come on in, James, pull up a microphone for James.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Thank you guys for allowing me to speak. Yes, sir,
my name is James C. B. Gray. I am the
CEO of the Hip Hop Fraternity. Thanks to can Ivy.
He appointed me, he bought me, and me and Ken
did a bunch of business deals years ago which evolved
into now us working together with Hip Hop Fraternity. The
hip Hop Fraternity first and foremost is a think tank,
(18:46):
all right. Uh, ninety percent of major companies organizations that
are of European establishment have a think tank. White yeah,
and ninety five percent of organizations that are or black
lineage don't. And when I was younger, we used to
(19:08):
do surveys all the time, and I used to answer
a bunch of questions and I used to think I
was getting over making fifty one hundred dollars for answering
a couple of questions. And later on I found out
that the information that I was given these organizations was
given them making them way more money by fine tuning
their product and service. You know, then I was really
(19:29):
doing it and anything. So that's why I realized the
power of a think tank. So one of the things
we encourage hip Hop Fraternity members to do is think okay,
And that leads to the new Emancipation Proclamation, which is
the free end of the mind, not just the bounding
of the physical realm, you know what I'm saying. So
a lot of us are stuck, you know, in the
(19:50):
physical so the mental chains have to be broke before
you can even you know, get beyond that. So we
have a whole curriculum and h Pop Fraternity where we're
teaching hip hop artists about publishing, royalties, contracts, entertainment law, distribution,
everything under the sun. If you look at it. For
the last fifty years, we just celebrated hip hop and
(20:10):
now we're looking back and saying, wow, we not only
celebrated victory, but we also are victims of you know,
being ripped off for so long in this industry. You know,
we have hip hop artists who can no longer perform,
you know, have how massive heart attacks on strokes, don't
have any pension plan, don't have any assurance or anything
(20:31):
like that. So this is one of the things that
we're proposing with Hip Hop Fraternity. On a congressional level,
we spoke to a couple of congressmen already, which led
us to now put in together a political action committee
under the Hip Hopaternity, which is gonna not only galvanize resources,
but also centralize the hip hop vote. Okay, you look
(20:53):
at the LGBT, the Hispanic, the black, all demographics of
the voting blocks would be centralized. Okay. Hip hop vote,
I think is the number one voting block in the world.
I mean especially in the United States of America when
it really counts. But nobody's actually ever centralized that vote.
(21:15):
You got certain hip hop artists that would take it
over here users to their benefit, Politicians that would use
hip hop artists in order to galvanize folks here and there,
but nobody that actually bought it under one umbrella. And
Hip Hop Fraternity has a solid infrastructure to not only
be able to do that, but to roll out a
whole nother agenda that's gonna you know, empower you know,
(21:37):
our brothers assistance. We have thirty seven chapters throughout the
United States. Three years, we've a mass that amount of
follow over ten thousand to in Africa, one in Puerto Rico,
one in Haiti, and we just launched the chapter in London.
So we're actually one of the fastest growing hip hop
organizations because of the platform that we have. One of
(21:59):
the things we have one of our chapters is access
to major DJs distribution promoters. We have a weekly meetings. Yeah,
we got the magazine, Hipternity, clothing line, hip op Fraternity blog,
the podcast. We have so much of Going to the
(22:20):
website www dot HHF media dot com, you'll see the
whole layout and when you sign up and become a member,
you have access to our curriculum which teaches about the
fundamentals and mechanics in the business. Signe everything everything free.
(22:40):
So when I first started vying Charlemagne and just as
I did it in Atlanta, so I came through and
I wanted to be a disruptor.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
So I disrupted the entire music industry in Atlanta. So
we did. I fed the kids for free, allow them
perform for free. I let them uh get in free.
You know it's going on for four years straight, all
paid for out of my pocket, you know, because you know,
I have a son that's in the music industry and
he was doing a lot of music and you know
(23:10):
he was it was costing him a lot of money,
and I was paying for it. You know, he had
paid for however, you know it went. But I wanted
to give the opportunity and create Apollo like situation of
American idol situation, so the artist can come in and
perform for free. And if they talented, like Mike Fresh,
you know, we just signed him. You know, he got
twenty billion strings. He got more than a little baby
(23:31):
baby got, tim b I read it on your on
your on your plaque out there in the room, So
he's got double the action that little baby got. So
bringing him into the hip hop fraternity and explaining to
him the business side of it, you know, because it
is a business called the music business. You know. I
was in a meeting with doctor Umar Johnson in California.
(23:52):
He was, you know, attending one of our HHF events
and we were talking and doctor Umar said, you know,
hip hop is the second largest exports of you know,
American exports. You know, hip hop created more billionaires than
any other black sector in the history of this country.
You know, you talk about jay Z, Puffy, Kanye, YadA,
(24:13):
YadA YadA. You know, these are being an untold amount
of millionaire. It created the Breakfast Club, you know, created
you know, Drink Champs, Boss Talk, Trigger Alert, all these
different platforms. You know, No Jumper, all this stuff is
coming black. It's coming from hip hop, you know influences, right,
So that's why it's so important. You know, people will
(24:34):
go to the mosque and join mister Fahrikhan, they would
go to Potterhouse and join TD Jakes. But more people
is acclimated and more probable going to hip hop than
they will to go into the mosque going to the church, right,
So we wanted to be that outlet. So when I
was looking up the word hip hop fraternity it was available.
(24:54):
It shocked me. I'm like, what you know? But then
when you look at East Coast versus the West Coast,
bad Boy versus Death Row, and you know, cash money
versus No Limit, you see the divisiveness in hip hop.
So they would never anticipate us coming together. From that perspective,
that's why those names were available because you know, anybody
that's smart and calculating. They're not gonna, let you know,
(25:17):
no domains be or no trademarks be available. So we
was able to trademark that, and then I was able
to get to a lander and sell everybody to land
on the idea that hey, look here, we tried everything
but unity. You know what I'm saying. You know, we
tried everything but unity. And then the brothers and sisters
just start coming. And then they start off with maybe
five or six people. Now we have ten thousand people
(25:38):
around the country and I have nothing but PhDs. He's
a former vice president for our Shopton. I was able
to take him from al Shopton. You know he's to
open up. Yeah yeah, yeah, now, but I mean all
the serious shot the man. You know we you know
(26:00):
sister ken Teres, you know she's uh, she's worked for
a billion dollar country, did billion dollar mergers and acquisitions.
So you know, my thing was to bring the street
people and the intelligent people. And you know, I even
got opportunity for you brothers. You know, we're going to
from the corpus perspective, from the business perspective. You know,
it takes financed depolifit nation. I want to give brothers
(26:20):
like y'all equity in the company, you know, just the
same thing with vitnment Water did with fifty and you
know we got you know, we've been talking to Floyd Mayweather,
Lankor Keen. We've been talking you know, icedy of course
gonna have equity. We want to you know, like you
and DJ Ivery, y'all in Mistress, y'all have power, you know,
we all hip hop. We all love the culture, you know,
watching't y'all have a piece of that company, and we
(26:41):
want to give y'all and submit a piece of company.
Sit down with our lawyers. We can make that happen,
you know. And all the other young brothers and sisters
out there that's doing well for themselves to have some influence,
we want to bring them in too, and then we
can go when we get attacked the venture capital, you know,
then we could do an IPO eventually, you know, and
then everyone can eat and we have our culture back,
(27:02):
you know. And that's what I want everybody to understand.
It's our culture. Our call that jacket again, let me
see that right quick.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Good pop fraternity jacket barsity jacket.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
But it says something on it that's very important. I
don't know for people to see that the culture our call,
our culture ore called. So when we think about it
right now, this is this year is going to be
very profound what I'm about to say, and it's not
a racial statement. But when you think about our Jewish brothers,
right you know, they you know, can claim fame a jury.
You know, our Mexican brothers can claim fame the taco
(27:34):
and Mexican food. You know, our Greek brothers can claim
Greek Town. You know, our Chinese brothers can claim ek
ros and Chinese rights. But we can claim hip hop.
That's our culture. We created that, and we got to
understand the importance of us taking control of this. There's
(27:54):
no reason why Universal, Sony and all these other major
record labels should be given our children fifteen percent royalty
and taking and charging them fifty percent production deal. Meaning
every time they should have video, they got to pay
if the video me and they got to pay you
half a million dollars. How many records do you sell,
as Tony Merced's like to say, at fifteen percent royalty
to get half a million dollars. You know, me being
(28:16):
in the publishing game, I was telling Boosy when we
was doing the book deal, I said, Boosie, you know
you look at the publisher coming you know this one
for to say Charlott mageause you do books and you
two are DJ. I said, you know, when you look
at the publisher game, it's like Caesars Palace. You look
at the record business, it's like Chase Manhattan. But they
(28:38):
only charging one hundred percent. If you and I don't
recoup this book, it's good. It's all good. It's all good.
So this is what I'm teaching them, you know. And
like I said, you know, Boosy wanted to get a
major advanced. I said, Boosie, we take the less advanced,
we take the better because you know that way, you
know what I'm saying, You can, you know, make your
money on the back end, you know what I'm saying, man,
And these are just the type of things that I
(29:00):
you know, like my man Steve Love, you know, fourteen
International Pixie Polo. You know, on the back end, I'm
helping them with all those deals, you know, the Boosy
juice and all that stuff. You know, when Boosie came
to kill de I'm the one talking to my man
ar Kannelli kill now I'm doing the deal. I got
Arcannelly to buy twenty thousand dollars worth of liquor. I
(29:22):
do a lot of backhand stuff. I want to teach
these brother business because I fortunately, I'm educated on a
lot of levels, you know. I got a lot of
business sense, you know, and like you said, being a
form of pimp, I could teach these brothers how not
to get be pimped by the industry. So that's what
we're doing with the hip hop Fraternity, just waking brothers up,
throw the alarm clock in the gray yard, you know,
because what you go through you grow through, you know.
(29:43):
And if they can change their mentality, they can change
the reality. So we just want them to, you know,
get rid of that I can't and get that I
can mentality.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Would you say to young people who you know, see
what you're doing now and want to get into that?
Would you tell it but they say, hey, maybe I
gotta start pimping first. Would you encourage people to get
into the pimp game.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Well, no, I denounced on Breakfast Cup. I denounced pimps
upholes down in America, pemp And the reason why is
because what really happened. Let me explain that. You know,
if you think about scarface, right during the scarface era,
everybody had scarface pictures up right, we all had the
scar faces, loving love scarface that was in eighty five, right.
(30:26):
Also in eighty five you had colors, right. You know,
right after that, you start seeing gangs everywhere. You start
seeing everybody wanted to be scarface. You started seeing drugs
in all parts of the community. We see then they
come with Nino Brown New Jack City. Then you see
brothers taking over projects.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
You say it was propaganda that was pushing.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
No, but no. What I'm saying is that CCA Correctional
Corporation of America and through systemic racism and white supremacy,
we can see how this was engineered into our community.
Because you got to remember it. Right after these movies
came out. What happened? You know what I'm saying. You
can't walk with the Crime Building nineteen eighty four, Yeah,
(31:05):
it was eighty four, Joe Biden eighty four, and Clinton
ninety four. It was Biden with all of them, so
it was it was one in eighty four. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
So yeah, So that what that did was that created
sentence enhancement laws, the trigger locks, A lot of brothers
start going to penitentiary, and the prison system in nineteen
seventy six was two hundred and forty thousand, twenty twenty
(31:28):
four is two point five million. It's America's five percent
of the world population and has a twenty five percent
of the world incorporations cost rats. This is what I'm
going to say, twenty five percent of the world incarceration,
five percent of the world's popular. In terms of eligible
people that go to jail is only six percent of
African American excluding women, children, and old folks and you
(31:49):
know disability, so it's only six percent. So six percent
of eligibility represent twelve point five percent of the people
that's incarcerated in the world. That is engineering, my brother,
you know what I'm saying. That is not an accident.
That's not a coincident. I think a chance to Willion
call it the destruction of the black civilization. A brother,
Kawanza Katupu, call it the conspiratory destroy young black boys.
(32:13):
You know, a doctor not me, Ogba said, you know
the psychological images and changes slavery. You know, you had
doctor Clyde Anderson up here. That's my favorite person to
listen to. You know, Clade said, you know, it's three
levels of survival. The first level is a game for
employment or job. The next level is welfare, he said,
(32:34):
the third level is crime. So if you take away welfare,
which what they did with our sisters, They told them
you can't have the men in the house. You know
cause I'm from the projects. I'm from the Robertator projects
in Chicago. So we you know, if you if the
sisters and brothers, if the sisters' welfare, the men weren't
allowed to come in the house. So you know, that's
automatically breaking up the black family. You know. And brother
(32:56):
Wesley Mohamad talk about the counter insurgency drugs. You know,
they put all these drugs in our community. You know,
people getting high, people selling drugs, you know, selling drugs
in the addiction as well. You know, the men is
going to jail, the children is out here by themselves,
the mother is single parenting. And guess what, brother Charlamagne
brothers envying, Its just who raising all the killers? If
(33:21):
all our men is in jail and our women is
raising their children, they raising the killers. They raising the
ones that's doing all in jail, So you got to
have a man in the house. I always tell people,
I said, the lion is the king of the jungle
because of his roar. He skied the mess out of
the elephants in the drive. They go crazy when they
hear that. You know, and you know the reason why
(33:42):
the man is the head the household, because it's Adam Mapple.
You know my thought. And there if I tell her
to sit down, you're gonna sit down. Mama gotta tell
the four, five, six seven times. You know your son
six eight, right, he's six eight, You know you five three?
You hitting on them, and you telling my boys sit
down and go down. He's sneaking out the window. He
over there on one hundred and twenty five fifth, he
letting it go. You know what I'm saying. It's popping out.
(34:03):
Why because we need to reunite the black family. The
black family have to come together, you know, men and
the black man the black woman have to make some
type of concession agreement. Otherwise you're gonna continue to see
all this murder in Mayhem. Because, like I said, you
take the man out the household, take his excuses. He's
a dead be dead. We agree with you the man
(34:25):
ain't shit, okay, but who raising the children? Sister's newsflash.
And then there was a white woman and a white
man recently just got caught up. What happened? They try
he kept four people, remember, and they put the mom
in the daddy in jail, Rember the case. So so
so that set president if you understand law, that set presidence.
So what that means is in the near future, when
(34:47):
your son go shoot up the block, possibly you could
be incarcerated for it. He took his parents gun. That
was the one. He took his parents gun. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
So you denounced pimping because of the negative no oh yeah,
let me finish, let me fitl okay.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
So right after pimps up holes down, you know, Snoop
was pipping all over Snoop was pipping Luther Chris pipping
all over the world. T I got pimpscot clip fifty
cent pm P. Right after that, human trafficking laws. Initially
on twenty twenty, they said it was about foreigners coming
(35:20):
over here and bringing young foreigner girl. Next day, you know,
it became a domestic law and locked up a lot
of young black men. And I'm complicit, right, because I'm
a part of the pimps up holes down, unbeknownst to myself,
but that pimps up holes down, that whole era when
nothing but a plot and a plan, because you know,
all the niggas, all the brothers stopped selling drugs, you
(35:40):
know what I'm saying. So they stopped selling drugs because
they peep, Oh man, you can get life for this.
So they gave us another. Every time we come up
with something and we get hip to it, they come
up with something else. They introduced another thing. And Hollywood
is complicit as well. You know, That's why I'm trying
to say, it's all about Hollywood. Hollywood did pimps up
holes down? Why would HBO do something called pimps up
(36:00):
hold down? There Lion Gate Dow American pimp and then
right after that you see laws following scar Faced New
Jack City. Right after you see laws follow it. So
you know, as a conscious brother, you know who's intelligent.
I got to say I denounced pimps, upholes down and
American pimps so young people can see that that's not
the way, you know, and you know, you know I'm
(36:22):
driving rolls, Russes and Mercedes and you know, rolexes and stuff,
and I ain't selling no drugs, you know what I'm saying.
I mean, you know, I'm living in Buckhead and Atlanta.
You know, you know, you know, I'm doing pretty well
for myself and I'm not selling drugs. So I want
young people to know that you don't have to take
that route. That's why we got the games. We got
the crub, the Bloods, the cribs, the gd's device to
all under one umbrella. They in my organization and I
(36:44):
got them calling existed with each other. So on Monday
night when we have our meetings in Atlanta, it's the
most peaceful night because we're stopping a lot of young
people from killing each other.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
We're glad you change your life. Pimping can tell them
where to find you.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah, you can find me a real pimpkin Underscore that's
on instrum. If you want to join the hip hop
returnay you go to HHF Media dot com. You want
to get my book, you can go I'd like to
do it. Audio will go to audiowoo dot com. Type
and pimp and can you get my book The forty
Laws of Game in Pimpology and uh.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
You can reach me James C. B. Gray on all platforms.
Also HHF Underscore CEO on Instagram. Also, we just launched
the New York City chapter of Hip O Fraternity the
other night at the Hallam Shock Bar. You know, it
was amazing. I definitely want to thank g dep for
coming out, Push Fashion Inc. For coordinating everything, and we
(37:39):
had a great crowd. So we're gonna be doing this
once a month at the Hallam Shock Bar. Any artists
that want to come out and perform, you know, you
can contact me through my Instagram James C. B.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Gray.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
It's open to everybody. We got an open mic, and
this is a platform that we're using to increase membership
but also give up and coming artists an opportunity to
showcase their talent, to prepare themselves for bigger stages, but
also to be part of a positive organization such as
Hip Opportunity, which is encouraging our artists to not only
be great, but be educated about the music industry as well.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
You got to get Mike Fresk. He got he got
keep streaming it, bounced when she walked, bounced when she walks,
and keeps streaming. Throw it in the circle.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Shout out to Bobbie for keep doing shaking that thing
in the circle too, and this thing a shout out.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
And shout out to the O G s. Y'all can
catch me on O G's too, and on trigger alert.
You know. It was the two shows that I'm on
O G. Y'all seen OG yet, man, Bishop don One,
all of them on that. It's about OG's the same
thing what I'm doing. We're talking positive, you know, getting
uh mister Rick, he's the spearhead of it. We just
telling all the young people to stop the game. So
all the big time game members and the hustles they
(38:52):
on there, you know. And then trigger alert. That's what
we talk about, male and female issues, you know, me
and ugly money and bids.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Yeah, all right, we appreciate you for joining us, fellas,
and it's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Good morning, wake that ass up in the morning for
the Breakfast clubh
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Breakfast Club Morning, everybody in Steve j n V, Jess Hilarius,
Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got
a special guest in the building. Indeed, got the brother
Ken Ivy a k A. Pimpy Can welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Are you feeling? Said hilarious?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
How are you, sir man? I'm well man who is
pimp and can for people who don't.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Know well, you know, uh A lot of times when
people say Pimpy Can, they put a period right, but
they need to put a common I'm also an author.
I wrote two books, Apologies for the Loss, The Game,
also The Art of Human Chest. I'm also the founder
and chairman of the Hip Hop Fraternity I CEEO from
New York James C. B. Gray you know he's also
(00:47):
part of I'm also a manager Mike Fresh know the
ass in the circle. Ye like that? Okay, he's signed
to me. Also have several businesses. Know, I have my
own social media site, have my own a teacher of magazine.
We do our award show in Atlanta every year. All
the celebrities come. So you know, I'm a college of everything.
(01:11):
You know what I'm saying But I started off as
a young hustler in the streets of Chicago. I got
caught up early, called the case tempted murder. Wasn't really
a tempted murder. They just was just in the racial
part of Chicago O Park, and they just gave us
the worst charge they gave. But I was fourteen, so
(01:34):
my mother moved me to Milwaukee. Got to Milwaukee, called
another case, and then you know, I just started my journey,
you know, in the streets. And then eventually, you know,
I was robbing banks and went to the fans and
went to the state present. I was like, man, you know,
this ain't working. So when I got out, ended up
(01:55):
getting in another game, the film game, and I became
a legendary pimple year, International pimple year. We did a
movie called Pimpupos Downer did American Pimp, you know, And
I became this infamous pimp. You know fifty Now you
know fifty and fifty? Did that sound problem? Child? I
feel a pimp like king, Why the hose don't treat you?
All the rappers started rapping about me. Then when that
(02:16):
movie came out, you know, Charlamagne and Envy hilarious It's
just I had to make a change because now I'm exposed.
It was like I snitched on myself, so to speak,
you know what I'm saying. And so my daddy said, boy,
you're fool. You just told everybody your business. So while
HBO was shooting the movie, I would shooting my movie too, Heypology.
So that's the movie that's on Instagram now at Pimpy
(02:38):
can podcast. I got that on on that right now.
You know, it's for free, but I made millions of
dollars off of it. It was all on BT commercials and
stuff like that. Then I also got into daycare businesses.
I got into the retail stores and I just started
becoming the business man. And next thing you know, I'm
in Atlanta, and uh that's when Big Meat was kind
(03:01):
of popping and I'm down there and Jamaine Trepez said, hey, man,
I wanted to be on my album. So the album Instructions,
that's me on there with money Holes and Powered Me
and Umbe. And then after that, Lord John called me.
I did two albums with him. I did two songs
with two short I did a song with Eve forty down,
five songs with Pempci. I did about five songs with
(03:24):
pastor Troy Puffy. He had me do a song with Loom,
So I did a song with Loom. I'm on that
Loom album too. And that's crazy because I was just
talking to a man house for his asking me about Puffy.
I said, man, you know, I don't have the perspective
everybody have. You know, my relationship with Puffy was always business.
You know Puffy, you know, he called me said say, man,
(03:47):
what is your publishing company? I didn't even know what
the Puppisher coming was. I said, a kid, I even
published it. And you know Puffy, you know, he kind
of gave me some game on the publisher and that's
how I'm able to receive residuals years later after you know,
getting that game from Puffect. You know Puffey. You know,
he invited me to his parties and ship, you know cus,
but he invited me to the party and you know
(04:08):
I come there. You know it was all player, you know,
like you know, me and Bishop do One went to
justice here in New York, and I never seen that
type of I was talking to g Depth yesterday and
me and gl I said, I don't I don't know
about that. I ain't you know, I don't know what
them people talking about. I said that man, he's always
been a gentleman. He's always been a player with me,
you know, a street dude, you know. And you know
(04:30):
that's that's just the relationship that I had with him. But
you know, that's one of the things I was saying
about loom I was on his album, so and then
who else I have my idea. So I did the
fifty joint Sharina Baby's Boy with who Kid. That's me
doing the narration and talking on all that. I did
the P I M P video, I did Cuckoo Cayle video.
(04:52):
You know, uh yeah, you did a lot. Yeah, but
the biggest thing I did was just recently young man
by the name of King More. Y'all can look him up.
He just in one money did two point five million views.
I just sent him to the White House and representing
my organization with Sister Castlebery, Henandez and Tony Mercedes representing
(05:14):
the youth department of the Hip Hoppternity. But it was
spearheaded by our brother James c. Be Great. You know.
So we have a relationship with the White House, you know,
with the anti gun violence Ice He is also a
member of my organization. He's my national advisor. So he
did a stop the violence campaign for the White House,
you know, and we sent that up to there, and
you know, so he was supposed to come, but he
(05:36):
was overseas. So you know, that's some of the things
that we're doing. You know, we sending we're working with
the White House, We're working with sister are you sure
the Court? So what's the name of James? I also
stay Cool and you know with the what's it called
again anti gun violence? Yeah, but it's it's called Street
(05:56):
Corner Resources, right, So with the Street Corner Resources and uh,
you know, so that's just what I'm about. Man. You know,
I made the transition, you know, more on a corporate thing.
You know, my son, you have watched that All American.
That's my son American number fourteen, the light skinned son
Ken Ivy. That's my real son. Wow, he's on there.
(06:17):
He's also in the movie called Play the Flute. He's
the only black dude in the movie and he owned
by but you go to itself what they call it
ib B. Yeah, he's on about ten or fifteen movies.
So you know, my other sons Supreme that won the
Great Supreme. You know, he's also doing well. He's into
the music industry. So you know, even though I was
(06:38):
in the game, you know, I raised my children different.
All my kids went to college, right, you know, because
I didn't want them to go through what I went through,
you know, because you know I've been shot five times.
You know, did many years in the penitentiary. You know,
just was in the game out here bad. You know,
so that wasn't the lifestyle for my children. I was
able to make that transition. So now one of them
(06:59):
ever seen.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Me as did your lifestyle, you know, ever make women
leary of you because you know, you introduce us to
your wife when she was like, hell no, I don't
want to get married to you.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
You a pimp. Well you know it ain't it ain't
even like that, you know what I'm saying. You know,
I'm you know, I'm my mama's boy. I want need
this boy. You know that's my mother, right, So she
know me as you know, kin you son, she slapped
me upside of my head. Now sick, she still slap
me upside of my head. So you know that's how
she look at me. You know, But you know a
(07:31):
lot of people they got a misinterpretation of pimping, right,
in order to be a pimpy, gotta have a hope.
Unless your hope, it don't apply to you. If you
ain't in the game, it don't make no difference. You
know what you're doing, you know, so when you're dealing
with people, you know what I'm saying. You know, like
most people, if you notice Charlamagne and DJM, you know
a lot of people got a lot of good things
to say about Pimpy can Because I'm an honorable dude.
(07:53):
You pimping ain't who I am. It's what I did,
you know, So that don't make that don't define me.
You know. So I'm a whole different person now, So
you know what I'm saying. When I like I said,
I sent all ma Chuldren in college, you know what
I mean. I deal with people on a whole different level. Now,
let's go back. So when you were a pimp, what's
the most hoes you had at one time? Sixteen?
Speaker 4 (08:13):
I love it, Okay, I'm just saying like, because I
never talked to like a real pimp before.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Well, not who he is now, but who he was.
You know, Well, what he did sixteen.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I was going to ask how did you get your
how did you get your start? Like, you know, your
first introduced to what her say?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I was introd how was introduced to it?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Like like when you're introduced to the drug game, somebody
introduces you to your first whatever it is. If you
introduce to this, like, so, who introduced you to pimp?
And it said I can make some money off of this?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Okay? So envy we was uh Robin Banks and Robin
Lse So it's a partner. My name and divine JD. Right.
So when I get out of the boys' school, I
go to his house. He got three chicks, right, I said, man,
let me hear one of them. He said, which one
you want to want? The one that life right there
there with the pussy candy strike you know? So he
said cool, he said it is yours. And then that's
(09:04):
how I ended game. Her name was Dirty Red. I
talked about it in my book. So that's how it became,
you know, a piece. So a brother n ain't stychild,
you know what I'm saying. He made rest in PC
died from COVID just two years ago. That brother was like, hey, man,
Ken you know, you got to be like this. You
got to, you know, try to take another man's broad.
You got to, you know, give a woman's structure, actually
(09:25):
what she come from. Who was a mama? Who are
daddy woo woo? Find everything about the bro So he
was giving me the game, and I ended up taking
one of his broads. So when I took his brod,
like I said, a lot of jeurey from Robin Jewey stoes,
I gave him a chain, so he kept my chain.
He was very unpivol like because he couldn't accept the servant.
You know, I was serving the news blue refuse and
put his girl up on some new rules. You know
what I'm saying. When we're even having that, you know,
(09:46):
So you know that's how I get into that game.
Then I went back to prison. So when I went
back to prison, you got to remember, I'm thinking, like, man,
I'll make some dumb moves. I mean, here I got
women giving me money and I'm still hustling. So when
I got there, I met a guy by the name
of Pimp and Pope. He said, Ken, you know, to
be in his game, you got to have a triple bypass.
(10:06):
You got to have all the sympathy, move out your heart,
you know. He said, you know you can't be sympathetic.
And then I said, well, what you doing in here
with me? Homie? He said, oh, man, you know this dude.
You know he got one of my girls. And the girl,
you know, she was so dedicated. You know, she had
light his cigarettes before he put in his mouth. She
would feed his stummay when he grown. He said, that's
what we do. We give instructions. You know what I'm saying,
(10:27):
That's what it's all about. He said. The game is
a game of soul. So I'm listening to the dude
and I'm getting the game from him, and you know
what I'm saying. It clicked to me. I was doing
it all wrong, you know what I'm saying. I said, Man,
you know I can't fall in love. I can't ain't
no love in this game. Love fall in love with
all the girls. I can't fall in love with nobody.
I didn't even fall in love. I just he just
showed me the game and clicked in my head. And
(10:48):
that's when I became the terrist. You know. With the game,
then you got a member, you know. Charloagne talked about
mental health. I was. I believe I was going through
some mental things because I was molested by my babysit
or young lady when I was years old. And then
when I was in prison, my mama left me for dead.
She never came to see me, but she's come to
see my brother all the time. So you know what
I'm saying. That gave me a disdain for women. So
(11:09):
you know what I mean when I deal with women.
You know, and this man already telling me, I got
to have a triple bypass. See, you can't have no sympathy.
It was easy for me to get in that game.
So when I got in that game, you know, I
was matched with no passion. I was matched for my
ration with no passion. You know. So I ain't had
no feelings. People s asked me, how do you feel
I feel with my hands? So that was the mentality
that I had, So that caused me to be desensitized.
(11:32):
It wasn't until I had my first child, which is Kiki,
my daughter. You know. When I had Kiki, then I
changed my mentality. You know, if you change your mentality,
can change your reality, right, So I changed my mentality
and then I started having loved because that was the
first time I really experienced love, love love, you know,
and so my daughter, you know, she just kind of
just made me make a lot of different life decisions.
(11:54):
And then I realized, you know that, hey man, you know,
maybe you can, you know, do some different things. And
when I actually got out the game, you know what
I'm saying, me, I had a whole different perspective, you know,
on women, you know, and I forgave my mother, you know,
for what she done. You know, I mean, I love
my mother the death of it, just with her, and
you know, but it was kind of traumatizing because you know,
(12:15):
I'm in jail and I can't and see her, you
know what I'm saying. So it just made me feel like,
you know, man, ain't got no respect for nobody. I'm
cold hearted. I'm out here. You know, whatever happened happened.
And unfortunately, that's what makes a good pimp. Unfortunately, it
makes a good pimp because when you're dealing with women
out there that's in their lifestyle, they're dealing with hundreds
of men's every day. You know, they don't have no sympathy, right,
(12:39):
you know, you got to be cold hearted to break
a trick, you know, and get some money from a man.
And know this man is married, Know this man is
in a relationship, but you know, you can't, you know,
deal with her. So when you deal with the female,
she come home, she's trying to run game on you too.
You know, I believe God gave a woman the same
thing you gave you, a skunk, a white striper belly
(12:59):
for the fun, you know. So they banging the funk
home and they banging the drama. So you got to
deal with that. And if you don't deal with that,
even if you look at the you know, the Bible,
you know it says the fall of man. Right when
you talking about the fall of man, what are you
talking about? You're talking about how some woman e allegedly
we're gonna say allegedly because we don't know people's prefaces,
(13:20):
right in terms of religion, Allegedly this woman deceived him
and he was that's how you got naked. So if
that's the mentality in the Bible, that's the first chapter Genesis,
the fall of man. We know that the woman has
always been the challenge for the man.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Vers two though, yeah, yes, sir, because I mean you
said it yourself, like, you know, you had so much
hurt and so much pain in your heart for women
that you treated women a certain ways. So if you're
already approaching the situation like that, she's probably gonna feel
that energy.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
So that's gonna be resistance.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Right right, absolutely, So I was gonna ask, I mean,
you call them holes, but when these women came to you,
did they come to you or did you sort them out?
Did they come for you for protection and help or
wasn't one of those things where you found like.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
How did it work for people? Because when people.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Here pimps, right, they all think of old school pimps,
beat a girl up, put them on the corner in
the Bronx or on the corner on the old forty
second street and make sure.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
So how did these women come to you? Well, you know,
once you get in the game, you know, you get
chose with your mouth clothed. You know, it's about choice,
not about force, you know. So I was always rose Woice,
So always tell them, let your choice be Rose Woice.
And what I mean by that is that a lot
of young dudes out here they selling these brash dreams.
They're like, hey, you know what I'm saying, get with me.
I'm gonna buy your Rose Voice, I'm gonna buy a Callak,
(14:37):
and we're gonna buy some mixes and diamonds. Well I
was already pulling up with that, so I was the dream,
you know what I'm saying. So because you selling this
woman a dream, she said, hey, man, I don't want
to be with any no more. I want to be
with Ken. So she had choose up on me. When
she choose up on me, I'll call you. You could
break the plate.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Man.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
That woman don't eat there no more. That's what I mean.
You know, you know she didn't choose up. She did.
She let her choice be Rose Voice. You know, she
didn't choose down shows up. So then I am then
you're gonna be like, oh man, you know, and then
in the game it's a non context sport. You would
have to accept that. So it's a it's actually.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
A non context sport. So in the game, there was
no you're not coming from you. I'm confused, non contact.
You lose your girl, that's it.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah. Yeah, once you get knocked, man, you got to
accept it, you know what I'm saying, Especially if you
get knocked by Knockarachi That was me. You know what
I'm saying. They called me Knockarachi because I was knocking everything. Then,
when Neil Doe came to New York back in ninety one,
and every time I would peel the dudes in New
York for this girl, I give him a Wall Street Journal.
But now I say, man, it's in the news. You've
been peeled for the Broad And they be like, man,
this dude is crazy. He from Milwaukee. He's tripping. Then
(15:35):
I put ketchup on it by the by they wheels
and say, man, you know my game is stick is high.
You'll never be thick as mine. You need to ketch
up because you've been in the mustard, you know. And
then that actually put ketch up by people. Yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah huh.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
That was like your calling card.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Now that was when I were not knocking for the Broad.
I let him know, like, man, listen, you know I
didn't peel you. You know what I'm saying. You know, you
give a Chinese name one gone imagine like him with well,
oh my god, I just squirt ketchup. Squirt catch has
(16:11):
only fans killed? Pipping? Can can pimps? Can there be
pimps down?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Because women now can go.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Only fans make their own money. Well, you know, only fans.
It's like you know, one brother was telling me, you
know about man the game and change. I said, bro,
check this out. I said, Man, when we was kids,
they had typewriters. Now you've got dumb people with smartphones.
I said, you know, the game has changed. You know,
it's elevation. You know, even if you look at your Facebook.
You know, when you first started Facebook, it was technologically
(16:38):
advanced as is today on Instagram. So life evolves, like
Darblin said, evolution. So when you see evolution, you got
to evolve, you know. So these young people, they got
to evolve. So me, you know, this is my hope
right here. She don't argue with me, She don't fight
with me. Charlamagne can't pimper. You can't pemper. Only can
can pemper? So pipp and can That's what I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Well, I'm saying a bunch of copies of that book
and sell it for double yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
But you have to pay me sell for double yeah.
But I'm what I'm saying, Charlamagne is that you know
I don't have no headaches with this. With you know
what I'm saying, I don't have no headaches with the
hip hop fraternity. You know what I'm saying, mean building
young people, you know, teaching about cryptology. Ask cap be
on my your teaching him about you know, tune core,
(17:23):
you know, intellectual property, you know, how to get a
lawyer and stuff like that, you know, and uh, you know,
bringing in investors, you know, like we're trying to get
investors now, you know, right now we bringing in investors
because we'll ce Corp. You know, so we're trying to
you know, I get that from your man too, John O'Brien. Yeah, man,
I get a lot. I made you make sure an event,
you know, mister Hope, you know, he give us a
(17:44):
lot of game. My man, Valentin, don't give me a
lot of game, Big Silk, give me a lot of game.
They just teach me about, you know, a whole another
level of getting money, you know. So we just get money.
Tony Mercedes and oh yeah, my man, uh I do
it show boss talk, he said, thank him, thank you
for always mention them. So yeah, I just and then
you know, I'm on I'm doing podcasts. I'm with Trigger
(18:05):
with ugly money, Ugly money. I'm a co host on
that you know you I needed. I want to do
something with you too, man, I want to bring my
show over to y'all black effect. Okay, you don't try
to know no more? What's the hip Hop Fraternity? Break
that down for? Uh?
Speaker 3 (18:22):
James, come on in, James, pull up a microphone for James.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Thank you guys for allowing me to speak. Yes, sir,
my name is James C. B. Gray. I am the
CEO of the Hip Hop Fraternity. Thanks to can Ivy.
He appointed me, he bought me, and me and Ken
did a bunch of business deals years ago which evolved
into now us working together with Hip Hop Fraternity. The
hip Hop Fraternity first and foremost is a think tank,
(18:46):
all right. Uh, ninety percent of major companies organizations that
are of European establishment have a think tank. White yeah,
and ninety five percent of organizations that are or black
lineage don't. And when I was younger, we used to
(19:08):
do surveys all the time, and I used to answer
a bunch of questions and I used to think I
was getting over making fifty one hundred dollars for answering
a couple of questions. And later on I found out
that the information that I was given these organizations was
given them making them way more money by fine tuning
their product and service. You know, then I was really
(19:29):
doing it and anything. So that's why I realized the
power of a think tank. So one of the things
we encourage hip Hop Fraternity members to do is think okay,
And that leads to the new Emancipation Proclamation, which is
the free end of the mind, not just the bounding
of the physical realm, you know what I'm saying. So
a lot of us are stuck, you know, in the
(19:50):
physical so the mental chains have to be broke before
you can even you know, get beyond that. So we
have a whole curriculum and h Pop Fraternity where we're
teaching hip hop artists about publishing, royalties, contracts, entertainment law, distribution,
everything under the sun. If you look at it. For
the last fifty years, we just celebrated hip hop and
(20:10):
now we're looking back and saying, wow, we not only
celebrated victory, but we also are victims of you know,
being ripped off for so long in this industry. You know,
we have hip hop artists who can no longer perform,
you know, have how massive heart attacks on strokes, don't
have any pension plan, don't have any assurance or anything
(20:31):
like that. So this is one of the things that
we're proposing with Hip Hop Fraternity. On a congressional level,
we spoke to a couple of congressmen already, which led
us to now put in together a political action committee
under the Hip Hopaternity, which is gonna not only galvanize resources,
but also centralize the hip hop vote. Okay, you look
(20:53):
at the LGBT, the Hispanic, the black, all demographics of
the voting blocks would be centralized. Okay. Hip hop vote,
I think is the number one voting block in the world.
I mean especially in the United States of America when
it really counts. But nobody's actually ever centralized that vote.
(21:15):
You got certain hip hop artists that would take it
over here users to their benefit, Politicians that would use
hip hop artists in order to galvanize folks here and there,
but nobody that actually bought it under one umbrella. And
Hip Hop Fraternity has a solid infrastructure to not only
be able to do that, but to roll out a
whole nother agenda that's gonna you know, empower you know,
(21:37):
our brothers assistance. We have thirty seven chapters throughout the
United States. Three years, we've a mass that amount of
follow over ten thousand to in Africa, one in Puerto Rico,
one in Haiti, and we just launched the chapter in London.
So we're actually one of the fastest growing hip hop
organizations because of the platform that we have. One of
(21:59):
the things we have one of our chapters is access
to major DJs distribution promoters. We have a weekly meetings. Yeah,
we got the magazine, Hipternity, clothing line, hip op Fraternity blog,
the podcast. We have so much of Going to the
(22:20):
website www dot HHF media dot com, you'll see the
whole layout and when you sign up and become a member,
you have access to our curriculum which teaches about the
fundamentals and mechanics in the business. Signe everything everything free.
(22:40):
So when I first started vying Charlemagne and just as
I did it in Atlanta, so I came through and
I wanted to be a disruptor.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
So I disrupted the entire music industry in Atlanta. So
we did. I fed the kids for free, allow them
perform for free. I let them uh get in free.
You know it's going on for four years straight, all
paid for out of my pocket, you know, because you know,
I have a son that's in the music industry and
he was doing a lot of music and you know
(23:10):
he was it was costing him a lot of money,
and I was paying for it. You know, he had
paid for however, you know it went. But I wanted
to give the opportunity and create Apollo like situation of
American idol situation, so the artist can come in and
perform for free. And if they talented, like Mike Fresh,
you know, we just signed him. You know, he got
twenty billion strings. He got more than a little baby
(23:31):
baby got, tim b I read it on your on
your on your plaque out there in the room, So
he's got double the action that little baby got. So
bringing him into the hip hop fraternity and explaining to
him the business side of it, you know, because it
is a business called the music business. You know. I
was in a meeting with doctor Umar Johnson in California.
(23:52):
He was, you know, attending one of our HHF events
and we were talking and doctor Umar said, you know,
hip hop is the second largest exports of you know,
American exports. You know, hip hop created more billionaires than
any other black sector in the history of this country.
You know, you talk about jay Z, Puffy, Kanye, YadA,
(24:13):
YadA YadA. You know, these are being an untold amount
of millionaire. It created the Breakfast Club, you know, created
you know, Drink Champs, Boss Talk, Trigger Alert, all these
different platforms. You know, No Jumper, all this stuff is
coming black. It's coming from hip hop, you know influences, right,
So that's why it's so important. You know, people will
(24:34):
go to the mosque and join mister Fahrikhan, they would
go to Potterhouse and join TD Jakes. But more people
is acclimated and more probable going to hip hop than
they will to go into the mosque going to the church, right,
So we wanted to be that outlet. So when I
was looking up the word hip hop fraternity it was available.
(24:54):
It shocked me. I'm like, what you know? But then
when you look at East Coast versus the West Coast,
bad Boy versus Death Row, and you know, cash money
versus No Limit, you see the divisiveness in hip hop.
So they would never anticipate us coming together. From that perspective,
that's why those names were available because you know, anybody
that's smart and calculating. They're not gonna, let you know,
(25:17):
no domains be or no trademarks be available. So we
was able to trademark that, and then I was able
to get to a lander and sell everybody to land
on the idea that hey, look here, we tried everything
but unity. You know what I'm saying. You know, we
tried everything but unity. And then the brothers and sisters
just start coming. And then they start off with maybe
five or six people. Now we have ten thousand people
(25:38):
around the country and I have nothing but PhDs. He's
a former vice president for our Shopton. I was able
to take him from al Shopton. You know he's to
open up. Yeah yeah, yeah, now, but I mean all
the serious shot the man. You know we you know
(26:00):
sister ken Teres, you know she's uh, she's worked for
a billion dollar country, did billion dollar mergers and acquisitions.
So you know, my thing was to bring the street
people and the intelligent people. And you know, I even
got opportunity for you brothers. You know, we're going to
from the corpus perspective, from the business perspective. You know,
it takes financed depolifit nation. I want to give brothers
(26:20):
like y'all equity in the company, you know, just the
same thing with vitnment Water did with fifty and you
know we got you know, we've been talking to Floyd Mayweather,
Lankor Keen. We've been talking you know, icedy of course
gonna have equity. We want to you know, like you
and DJ Ivery, y'all in Mistress, y'all have power, you know,
we all hip hop. We all love the culture, you know,
watching't y'all have a piece of that company, and we
(26:41):
want to give y'all and submit a piece of company.
Sit down with our lawyers. We can make that happen,
you know. And all the other young brothers and sisters
out there that's doing well for themselves to have some influence,
we want to bring them in too, and then we
can go when we get attacked the venture capital, you know,
then we could do an IPO eventually, you know, and
then everyone can eat and we have our culture back,
(27:02):
you know. And that's what I want everybody to understand.
It's our culture. Our call that jacket again, let me
see that right quick.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Good pop fraternity jacket barsity jacket.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
But it says something on it that's very important. I
don't know for people to see that the culture our call,
our culture ore called. So when we think about it
right now, this is this year is going to be
very profound what I'm about to say, and it's not
a racial statement. But when you think about our Jewish brothers,
right you know, they you know, can claim fame a jury.
You know, our Mexican brothers can claim fame the taco
(27:34):
and Mexican food. You know, our Greek brothers can claim
Greek Town. You know, our Chinese brothers can claim ek
ros and Chinese rights. But we can claim hip hop.
That's our culture. We created that, and we got to
understand the importance of us taking control of this. There's
(27:54):
no reason why Universal, Sony and all these other major
record labels should be given our children fifteen percent royalty
and taking and charging them fifty percent production deal. Meaning
every time they should have video, they got to pay
if the video me and they got to pay you
half a million dollars. How many records do you sell,
as Tony Merced's like to say, at fifteen percent royalty
to get half a million dollars. You know, me being
(28:16):
in the publishing game, I was telling Boosy when we
was doing the book deal, I said, Boosie, you know
you look at the publisher coming you know this one
for to say Charlott mageause you do books and you
two are DJ. I said, you know, when you look
at the publisher game, it's like Caesars Palace. You look
at the record business, it's like Chase Manhattan. But they
(28:38):
only charging one hundred percent. If you and I don't
recoup this book, it's good. It's all good. It's all good.
So this is what I'm teaching them, you know. And
like I said, you know, Boosy wanted to get a
major advanced. I said, Boosie, we take the less advanced,
we take the better because you know that way, you
know what I'm saying, You can, you know, make your
money on the back end, you know what I'm saying, man,
And these are just the type of things that I
(29:00):
you know, like my man Steve Love, you know, fourteen
International Pixie Polo. You know, on the back end, I'm
helping them with all those deals, you know, the Boosy
juice and all that stuff. You know, when Boosie came
to kill de I'm the one talking to my man
ar Kannelli kill now I'm doing the deal. I got
Arcannelly to buy twenty thousand dollars worth of liquor. I
(29:22):
do a lot of backhand stuff. I want to teach
these brother business because I fortunately, I'm educated on a
lot of levels, you know. I got a lot of
business sense, you know, and like you said, being a
form of pimp, I could teach these brothers how not
to get be pimped by the industry. So that's what
we're doing with the hip hop Fraternity, just waking brothers up,
throw the alarm clock in the gray yard, you know,
because what you go through you grow through, you know.
(29:43):
And if they can change their mentality, they can change
the reality. So we just want them to, you know,
get rid of that I can't and get that I
can mentality.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Would you say to young people who you know, see
what you're doing now and want to get into that?
Would you tell it but they say, hey, maybe I
gotta start pimping first. Would you encourage people to get
into the pimp game.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Well, no, I denounced on Breakfast Cup. I denounced pimps
upholes down in America, pemp And the reason why is
because what really happened. Let me explain that. You know,
if you think about scarface, right during the scarface era,
everybody had scarface pictures up right, we all had the
scar faces, loving love scarface that was in eighty five, right.
(30:26):
Also in eighty five you had colors, right. You know,
right after that, you start seeing gangs everywhere. You start
seeing everybody wanted to be scarface. You started seeing drugs
in all parts of the community. We see then they
come with Nino Brown New Jack City. Then you see
brothers taking over projects.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
You say it was propaganda that was pushing.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
No, but no. What I'm saying is that CCA Correctional
Corporation of America and through systemic racism and white supremacy,
we can see how this was engineered into our community.
Because you got to remember it. Right after these movies
came out. What happened? You know what I'm saying. You
can't walk with the Crime Building nineteen eighty four, Yeah,
(31:05):
it was eighty four, Joe Biden eighty four, and Clinton
ninety four. It was Biden with all of them, so
it was it was one in eighty four. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
So yeah, So that what that did was that created
sentence enhancement laws, the trigger locks, A lot of brothers
start going to penitentiary, and the prison system in nineteen
seventy six was two hundred and forty thousand, twenty twenty
(31:28):
four is two point five million. It's America's five percent
of the world population and has a twenty five percent
of the world incorporations cost rats. This is what I'm
going to say, twenty five percent of the world incarceration,
five percent of the world's popular. In terms of eligible
people that go to jail is only six percent of
African American excluding women, children, and old folks and you
(31:49):
know disability, so it's only six percent. So six percent
of eligibility represent twelve point five percent of the people
that's incarcerated in the world. That is engineering, my brother,
you know what I'm saying. That is not an accident.
That's not a coincident. I think a chance to Willion
call it the destruction of the black civilization. A brother,
Kawanza Katupu, call it the conspiratory destroy young black boys.
(32:13):
You know, a doctor not me, Ogba said, you know
the psychological images and changes slavery. You know, you had
doctor Clyde Anderson up here. That's my favorite person to
listen to. You know, Clade said, you know, it's three
levels of survival. The first level is a game for
employment or job. The next level is welfare, he said,
(32:34):
the third level is crime. So if you take away welfare,
which what they did with our sisters, They told them
you can't have the men in the house. You know
cause I'm from the projects. I'm from the Robertator projects
in Chicago. So we you know, if you if the
sisters and brothers, if the sisters' welfare, the men weren't
allowed to come in the house. So you know, that's
automatically breaking up the black family. You know. And brother
(32:56):
Wesley Mohamad talk about the counter insurgency drugs. You know,
they put all these drugs in our community. You know,
people getting high, people selling drugs, you know, selling drugs
in the addiction as well. You know, the men is
going to jail, the children is out here by themselves,
the mother is single parenting. And guess what, brother Charlamagne
brothers envying, Its just who raising all the killers? If
(33:21):
all our men is in jail and our women is
raising their children, they raising the killers. They raising the
ones that's doing all in jail, So you got to
have a man in the house. I always tell people,
I said, the lion is the king of the jungle
because of his roar. He skied the mess out of
the elephants in the drive. They go crazy when they
hear that. You know, and you know the reason why
(33:42):
the man is the head the household, because it's Adam Mapple.
You know my thought. And there if I tell her
to sit down, you're gonna sit down. Mama gotta tell
the four, five, six seven times. You know your son
six eight, right, he's six eight, You know you five three?
You hitting on them, and you telling my boys sit
down and go down. He's sneaking out the window. He
over there on one hundred and twenty five fifth, he
letting it go. You know what I'm saying. It's popping out.
(34:03):
Why because we need to reunite the black family. The
black family have to come together, you know, men and
the black man the black woman have to make some
type of concession agreement. Otherwise you're gonna continue to see
all this murder in Mayhem. Because, like I said, you
take the man out the household, take his excuses. He's
a dead be dead. We agree with you the man
(34:25):
ain't shit, okay, but who raising the children? Sister's newsflash.
And then there was a white woman and a white
man recently just got caught up. What happened? They try
he kept four people, remember, and they put the mom
in the daddy in jail, Rember the case. So so
so that set president if you understand law, that set presidence.
So what that means is in the near future, when
(34:47):
your son go shoot up the block, possibly you could
be incarcerated for it. He took his parents gun. That
was the one. He took his parents gun. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
So you denounced pimping because of the negative no oh yeah,
let me finish, let me fitl okay.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
So right after pimps up holes down, you know, Snoop
was pipping all over Snoop was pipping Luther Chris pipping
all over the world. T I got pimpscot clip fifty
cent pm P. Right after that, human trafficking laws. Initially
on twenty twenty, they said it was about foreigners coming
(35:20):
over here and bringing young foreigner girl. Next day, you know,
it became a domestic law and locked up a lot
of young black men. And I'm complicit, right, because I'm
a part of the pimps up holes down, unbeknownst to myself,
but that pimps up holes down, that whole era when
nothing but a plot and a plan, because you know,
all the niggas, all the brothers stopped selling drugs, you
(35:40):
know what I'm saying. So they stopped selling drugs because
they peep, Oh man, you can get life for this.
So they gave us another. Every time we come up
with something and we get hip to it, they come
up with something else. They introduced another thing. And Hollywood
is complicit as well. You know, That's why I'm trying
to say, it's all about Hollywood. Hollywood did pimps up
holes down? Why would HBO do something called pimps up
(36:00):
hold down? There Lion Gate Dow American pimp and then
right after that you see laws following scar Faced New
Jack City. Right after you see laws follow it. So
you know, as a conscious brother, you know who's intelligent.
I got to say I denounced pimps, upholes down and
American pimps so young people can see that that's not
the way, you know, and you know, you know I'm
(36:22):
driving rolls, Russes and Mercedes and you know, rolexes and stuff,
and I ain't selling no drugs, you know what I'm saying.
I mean, you know, I'm living in Buckhead and Atlanta.
You know, you know, you know, I'm doing pretty well
for myself and I'm not selling drugs. So I want
young people to know that you don't have to take
that route. That's why we got the games. We got
the crub, the Bloods, the cribs, the gd's device to
all under one umbrella. They in my organization and I
(36:44):
got them calling existed with each other. So on Monday
night when we have our meetings in Atlanta, it's the
most peaceful night because we're stopping a lot of young
people from killing each other.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
We're glad you change your life. Pimping can tell them
where to find you.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah, you can find me a real pimpkin Underscore that's
on instrum. If you want to join the hip hop
returnay you go to HHF Media dot com. You want
to get my book, you can go I'd like to
do it. Audio will go to audiowoo dot com. Type
and pimp and can you get my book The forty
Laws of Game in Pimpology and uh.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
You can reach me James C. B. Gray on all platforms.
Also HHF Underscore CEO on Instagram. Also, we just launched
the New York City chapter of Hip O Fraternity the
other night at the Hallam Shock Bar. You know, it
was amazing. I definitely want to thank g dep for
coming out, Push Fashion Inc. For coordinating everything, and we
(37:39):
had a great crowd. So we're gonna be doing this
once a month at the Hallam Shock Bar. Any artists
that want to come out and perform, you know, you
can contact me through my Instagram James C. B.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Gray.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
It's open to everybody. We got an open mic, and
this is a platform that we're using to increase membership
but also give up and coming artists an opportunity to
showcase their talent, to prepare themselves for bigger stages, but
also to be part of a positive organization such as
Hip Opportunity, which is encouraging our artists to not only
be great, but be educated about the music industry as well.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
You got to get Mike Fresk. He got he got
keep streaming it, bounced when she walked, bounced when she walks,
and keeps streaming. Throw it in the circle.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Shout out to Bobbie for keep doing shaking that thing
in the circle too, and this thing a shout out.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
And shout out to the O G s. Y'all can
catch me on O G's too, and on trigger alert.
You know. It was the two shows that I'm on
O G. Y'all seen OG yet, man, Bishop don One,
all of them on that. It's about OG's the same
thing what I'm doing. We're talking positive, you know, getting
uh mister Rick, he's the spearhead of it. We just
telling all the young people to stop the game. So
all the big time game members and the hustles they
(38:52):
on there, you know. And then trigger alert. That's what
we talk about, male and female issues, you know, me
and ugly money and bids.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Yeah, all right, we appreciate you for joining us, fellas,
and it's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Good morning, wake that ass up in the morning for
the Breakfast clubh
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