INTERVIEW: Lara Trump On Family Values, Trump's Racism, Women's Rights, Dangerous Rhetoric + More

The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Lara Trump Too Discuss Her Family Values, Trump's Racism, Women's Rights, And Dangerous Rhetoric. Listen For More! 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning. The breakfast Club.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Morning, everybody is DJ Envy, Jess hilarious, Charlamagne to God.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
We are to breakfast club.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Jess is on maternity leave, so lour Lauo's is filling
in and we got a special guest in the building.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
We have Laura Trump.

Speaker 4 (00:15):
Welcome, good morning.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
How you feeling this morning?

Speaker 5 (00:18):
I'm feeling great. How are you, guys?

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Lets lack and highly favor good morning.

Speaker 5 (00:21):
And there you go.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yeah, now you're the co chair of the Republican National Committee.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Yes, what does that mean exactly? What is that?

Speaker 5 (00:27):
Well, there's a chairman of the RNC. His name is
Michael Wattley, and as co chair, I uh work alongside
of him. And you know, we're basically in charge of
the Republican Party at this point. And I've been in
this position since March. It's been a wild ride. This
is probably one of the craziest times in politics we
anyone can remember. And so so you have come honored

(00:50):
to do it, your father in law, I have a
lot to do it. Then, well, you know, actually the
R and C Committee members have to vote you into
this position. Now. I did get a call from him
back in January one night, and he said, I think
you should run for this position. And to be honest,
I said, I have two young kids. My kids are
five and seven. Now I have a lot of personal
endeavors that you know I have underway as well. I said,

(01:12):
I don't know if this is the job for me
right now, knowing how big this election was going to be,
knowing what laid ahead of me. But he convinced me
to run for it, and then the committee members at
the RNC voted me into this position, and I'm honored
to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Have you been a lifelong republicanough?

Speaker 5 (01:26):
You know, I would say yes, I've always voted Republican.
But you know, politics were never a big thing discussed
in my household when I was growing up. I grew
up in southeastern North Carolina, and you know, I think
that naturally I gravitated towards more conservative values, but we
never really discussed it. But yeah, I've always voted Republican.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Let's let's go back a little. But let's let's find
out who Laura Trump is. So, okay, You're married to
Trump's son Eric. Yes, what did you guys meet? And
you know, explain I break that down so people know
your history and where you came from and how you
got into politics.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Politics wasn't your.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
First No, well it wasn't anyone's thing with the last
name Trump, if we're all honest, for for a long time,
I yeah, I grew up in southeastern North Carolina, like
I said, and I moved here. I moved to New
York in two thousand and seven. I actually moved here
to go to culinary school.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Okay, of all things, are a chef, you can shove
it up.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
Well, now don't ask my husband, because he gives me
a hard time about this. I'm technically a pastry chef.
I went to the French, so you.

Speaker 6 (02:25):
Can only cook the pastries. Well I can't. I can like,
he won't starve, but that's not really a thing.

Speaker 5 (02:31):
Well, now he gives me a hard time because I
used to make him like ice cream cakes. I make
the ice cream from scratch, the whole thing from scratch.
And then he would go on like a Keto diet,
and on Keto you can't have sugar, so all of
my it would get freezer burned in the freezer. So
I'm like, well, why am I going to go out
of my way? To make make these cakes for you.
If you we're not eating them anyway, He'll he'll argue
that I it was a bait and switch, and then

(02:53):
I stopped making him these cakes.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
You're not a chef, you move like a bigger Well yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
Because they're different a different And actually, if you look
at pastries and pastry chefs, it is based on a
lot of chemistry versus a regular chef who's just doing
like savory dishes. There's a lot of you can just
like toss a little of this and toss a little
of that, and if you do that in baking, your
cake isn't going to rise the right amount or whatever.
It is, so a little more technical. But yeah, I

(03:21):
moved to New York to go to culinary school, and
Eric and I met out one night in Manhattan. I mean,
it's like, when does this happen? This is back in
the day. I had to raise your phone. I won't
tell y'all how long ago that was. But no, I
certainly never had any inclination when I moved to New
York that I would ever have the last name Trump.
I am not a Trump by birth, and I certainly

(03:43):
probably did not have the same upbringing as my husband.
I think I probably grew up like a lot of
people in America.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
It's kind of good because you can get out whenever
you want.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
Yeah, totally, but it's great. And I moved here. I
met Eric out one night. I had no idea that
a guy Eric Trump even existed. But you guys probably
saw when I walked down. I'm a tall drink of
water and when I have heels on, I'm like six
to two.

Speaker 6 (04:08):
So you walked in pumping.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
Yeah, yeah, Well I saw across the room. I was like, well,
who's that guy who's taller than I am with my
heels on? I said, this could work out, And little
did I know here we are gosh.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Sick you look for that's all.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
That's what drew me in Charlotte Mane. But but it
takes a little more than that. And to be honest
with you, when I found out who he was, I said, well,
I think I'll go out on a date with this guy,
and I'll probably just have a story to tell, because
you have in your mind with someone with the last
name Trump, would be like, right, I mean to be
honest with you. And we went out to dinner and

(04:45):
we did not order food for four hours because we
had such good conversation going. He was so down to earth.
He was I mean, honestly, I hate to use the
word normal, but he was normal and like anyone else
I'd ever met. And I was so impressed with all
the things he said to me, and our conversation was great,
and that's what really drew me in. And that's what
it took for me.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
I got one question.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
I should have I did not. No, we had some drinks,
but we did not didn't or food, And you know,
I felt bad not to cut you off from me.
I feel bad because I've been a waitress for a
long time and I know that they hate that. I said,
I hope we leave her a good tip. Trump left
our good tip. I'll have to ask him about that.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
Why I give the asshole the chance, Like if you
said to yourself, his last name is Trump.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
I thought he was an asshole.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
I mean, I think my initial, like knee jerk, was oh,
this guy is going to be like I'm not going
to like him. But we communicated, you know, we talked
on the phone and he seemed he seemed relatively okay.
So I said, all right, let me go see what
this is about?

Speaker 1 (05:43):
And yeah, Inside Edition to it?

Speaker 5 (05:46):
I sure did. Okay, Yeah, I have a background and
my communication media degree from n C State. Shout out
to the wolf Pack. Not a great football season for us,
but I digress. And yeah, so I I got I
was a producer with Inside Edition for five years until,
of course, the famous escalator ride in Trump Tower. And

(06:08):
now my life is politics.

Speaker 6 (06:09):
How I work in an Inside Edition as a producer?
Did you not know who he was?

Speaker 5 (06:14):
This was before I worked there? Okay, yeah, I worked
at this is when I was in culinary school.

Speaker 6 (06:18):
I got to what year was that?

Speaker 5 (06:20):
This was two thousand and eight, gotcha? Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (06:23):
And when did it switch to politics?

Speaker 2 (06:24):
When did because you know, it was a big, happy
entertainment family and then politics hit. And when you started
hearing the politics talk, did you believe it?

Speaker 4 (06:31):
Did you say?

Speaker 3 (06:31):
No, way, this cannot possibly happen.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Walk us through that, because I don't think anybody ever
thought that Donald Trump would make it to president. It
just didn't seem like because he wasn't a quote unquote politician.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
Yeah, well he was friends with everybody. I mean, I
think if you look back at Donald Trump's history, you
know he last night we were at the Al Smith
dinner and he was right there next to Chuck Schumer,
and he said, to Chuck Schumer, who's obviously a Democrat senator,
he said, I gave Chuck his first check ever when
he was running for like assembly man or something.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
So yeah, that's why Chuck was laughing so hard. Remember,
we asked why Chuck was laughing laughing, Boy.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
I don't, I don't. I don't be liking the optics
of that.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
Only the only reason I say I don't like the
optics of that is because when you hear people like
Chuck Shulans say things like Trump is a threat to democracy,
but then you're sitting next to him yucking it up.
Why would you be yucking it up with somebody who
you consider a threat to democra Well you have.

Speaker 5 (07:19):
To ask yourself that question, don't you. Maybe it's uh,
maybe it's all scare tactics. Maybe it's a lot of
fear mongering. Charlemagne. What I can tell you is I
know Donald Trump. I have known him for sixteen years,
and Chuck Schumer's known him a lot longer than I have,
and I think he knows full well he's not a
threat to democracy. And you don't even have to take
my word for it. Look at what he did when
he was in the White House, Lea, there was never

(07:40):
any threat to democracy when he was in the White House.
I'm country well that you can argue that a lot
of different ways peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard
is not an attempt at coup. What was a coup
was when they replaced Joe Biden with Kamala Harris, who
was not elected by anyone to run for president. There
are fourteen million people who voted for Joe Biden to

(08:01):
be the nominee for the Democrat Party. And if you
want to talk about a real threat to democracy, I
would argue that.

Speaker 6 (08:07):
Lord, did anyone die when that happened.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
No, not even she was vice president.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
So the only person who died was a woman who
was there actually very supportive of Donald Trump on the day.

Speaker 6 (08:16):
That's a life loss. I'm just saying comparable. That comparison
is a big.

Speaker 5 (08:20):
We could we could go down the line of of
people dying in a lot of different circumstances, and I
would argue that that that that list could get very
long for the Democrats as well. But she was.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
Vice president she was on the ballot, people did both
for her. The delegates did both for her.

Speaker 5 (08:36):
At the d N would you, as a I'm going
to assume a Democrat voter for a long time unaffiliated voter,
if you were a Democrat, maybe a Democrat here, would you, guys,
if you had the option to vote for someone other
than Joe Biden to be the representative for you on
the Democrat ticket have chosen Kamala Harris to be that person.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah, I would have chosen out of really.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
Interesting yes, I mean I actually I would person that
was calling for Joe Biden to stepped down for a
very long time. And I think that there's you know,
when Joe Biden's made a statement last year he said
there's about fifty of us that could.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Beat Donald Trump.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
I was like, well line them all up then, And
I definitely had her as one of the people.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
Even though she dropped out whenever she ran the first
time before her home state voted before Iowa and she
was pulling solo, you still would to have given her
the shot. And I mean, if you think back too
at Kamala Harris, when Joe Biden before he got pushed
out of this position, before he really kind of took
it up a notch with this campaign. People were saying,

(09:34):
Kamala Harris is the insurance policy for Joe Biden, because
she really is not a doing a great job as
vice president. I mean she got you know, well.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
I'm a person who voted. I voted for that ticket
because of.

Speaker 6 (09:47):
Her interesting Yeah, yeah, a lot of people did.

Speaker 5 (09:50):
Yeah. Well, we've got a ticket coming up very soon
in a vote, very soon early voting in a lot
of places right now. But to answer your question, I know,
we kind of got sidetracked. But in politics. None of
us in the family had obviously any experience in politics,
but I had heard my father in law a lot
very upset about what he felt was wasteful. He felt

(10:11):
like we weren't focused on America, that we were sending
jobs overseas, businesses overseas, that the federal government was bloated
and overspending, and he said, this isn't right, This isn't
the America that I grew up in and that I
think we should you have as a great future for
this country. And if you go back to an Oprah interview,
he did I believe in the eighties, She asked him

(10:33):
would you ever run for president, and he said only
if things got so bad. I felt I had no
other choice. And I feel like he thought the country
really was on a bad path and he wanted to
help bring it back. And so right before his famous
Golden Escalator ride, we actually all sat down as a family.
And I'll never forget this because it was one of
those moments where looking back, I say, gosh, he really

(10:55):
had such good insight into what was about to happen.
We all sat down as a family for dinner, and
he talked us through, you know, I want to do this.
This is definitely something that is real. But if I
do this the right way, if I do what is
needed and I call the people out he needs to
be called out and expose the things that need to
be exposed, they're going to come after us. And it's
not just me, it's the whole family. And I think

(11:17):
you guys need to really appreciate that, and I need
to under you to understand that and make sure everybody
feels good about And of course we were like, well, yeah,
I like, how bad could it be? But the foresight
he had into what we've seen happen to this man
and I don't think anyone can argue if his name
wasn't Donald Trump and he had never run for politics.
I mean, you would never have seen any of the

(11:39):
crazy things happened to him that have So that was
sort of where we all kind of got our intro
into politics. I didn't become part of things really until
I flew down to North Carolina in August of twenty
sixteen for a rally with my father in law to
my hometown in Wilmington, and one thing led to another,

(12:00):
and he told me that I was going to be
responsible for winning him my home state of North Carolina
in the twenty sixteen election. And as a person who
had no idea what I was doing in politics, they
said I better learn pretty quickly and get to work.
And so that's what I.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
Did, learned from the first time he ran.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
I just want to know at that dinner, did y'all say,
you know what, well, let's put all out dirt on
the table right now, because you know they're going to
be coming at you know, Press is going to try
anything that you.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Guys have ever done. If you guys have.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Stolen a snicker bar from the store, They're going to
come at that with that the dinner, we said, well,
let's put everything on the table so we know what
they're going to be attacking or that never happened.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
Oh, be really honest, We really didn't have a lot
to put on that table. And if you think that
I'm lying, you really believe that anybody in the Trump
family with the Trump last name wouldn't have had any
and everything exposed by now? No, I mean I think
we naively thought, Look, if you if you have good
intentions and you do the right things, and you're a
good person, then you know, if Donald Trump became president,

(12:55):
I think we all thought after he won in twenty sixteen,
oh well, then all the craziness will stop. Everybody will
rally behind the person who's president of the United States,
because we should all want our president to be successful.
That is successful America. And obviously we were very wrong
about it.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
Well what is he Well, two things. Well, I want
to go back to one thing for us. I wonder
what he learned from his two thousand campaign.

Speaker 5 (13:15):
That he did twenty sixteen campaign.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Well, he ran into he ran in two thousand two. Official.

Speaker 5 (13:19):
Oh yeah, I haven't actually talked to him about that. Yeah,
that's a that's a good question.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
I mean, Gods brought that up because you know you
said that, you know, you talked about the vice president's
campaign in twenty twenty. Sometimes campaigns aren't successful. Joe Biden
ran a bunch of times before he actually he sure
did Trump one ran before before he actually went. That's
why I brought that up.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
I don't know if he officially officially ran in two thousand.
If he did, it didn't go very far from my memory.
I don't know that there was any official announcement as
far as I know, But but look, he I think
he felt the right time was twenty sixteen. I think
he looked at at what was going on, and you know,
this is a businessman, and I think a lot of

(13:57):
what he did that was very beneficial to this country
has to do with businesses, with the economy, with jobs.
Those were things that were really important to him, and
you hear him talk about it now. You know, he
recently was talking about tariffs and how he wants to
apply tariffs to countries who are. You know, it's really
awful to see how so many jobs factories have gone overseas.

(14:19):
We want to see made in the USA on more.
And you saw that happening. When he was in the
White House. You saw more people employed in this country
than we've ever had employed in the history of America.
You had more money in your pocket, and inflation at
one point nine percent. It was a very different feeling
when he was in the White House, and I think
that's why you're seeing such great support for this man.

(14:40):
You don't have to love everything he says. You don't
have to love everything he posts on X or truth,
social or whatever, but you do have to be honest
that your life probably felt a lot better with Donald
Trump in the White House. And I think that that's
one of the reasons that he's working so hard because
he knows he can do the job. He did it
one time before.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
And why taras consider good business when we know it
is going to cause the cost of typical American household
items to go up, Well, he expected a bunch of
economists say that it'll cost the average American twenty six
hundred dollars.

Speaker 5 (15:12):
I think that he explained this the other day when
he was sending out with I believe it was Bloomberg,
that look, the reality is that it's going to force
people to bring their companies back to the United States,
and he really believes that.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
But it's going to hurt a lot of American citizens
in the process of day because it's not like these companies.

Speaker 5 (15:30):
I don't think, well, let's talk. I mean, if you
want to talk about hurting American citizens. The first thing
that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris did their first executive
order in the White House shutting down the Keystone Excel pipeline.
That was something that gave us our energy independence. It
was so bad for America. That drove up gas prices,
that caused inflation to continue to go sky high. It
enriched our adversaries like Russia and Iran because now they

(15:52):
were supplying oil for the rest of the world instead
of the United States. It put us in such a
weakened state. So you know, we want to drive mayby drill.
That's what Donald Trump always says. We have so much
liquid bill underneath our Well, why do you shut down
the Keystone Exel pipeline. I have no idea, but strategic
petroleum reserves, which are actually supposed to be used for

(16:13):
emergency situations, for war times, the things.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Had Biden drilled more than Trump.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
I don't believe that's true fact, you can look it up.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
He's drill.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
I don't. I don't believe that's true at all, and
often it is, okay. But Donald Trump was obviously a
proponent of being energy independent and energy dominant as a country,
and we are not right now, and that puts US
in a very weakened state. And you would not have
seen the issue UH in the Middle East right now.
And you likely wouldn't have seen the issue with Russia
and Ukraine had those countries, had Ron not had the

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funding and the money coming in from the oil, had
Russia not had the funding and the money coming in
from the oil. It's it's a terrible thing to see.
And so, you know, I think that you can look
at a lot of things and and second guests them
with Donald Trump and say, well, what about this, what
about that? Think about how it felt, Think about how
much more money you had in your pocket, Think about

(17:09):
so many people were finally able to go on a
vacation for the first time when he was in the
White House. And those are real tangible things. And right
now life is very hard for so many people in
this country. You know, I travel all over the place,
and I constantly am in airports and restaurants, and I
constantly am approached by people who say I cannot afford

(17:31):
not to vote for Donald Trump, And I think they
really mean that. Whether you look at our southern border,
the influx of people who've come in this country, it's
detrimental to so many aspects of our society. It's something
that we've spent so much money on here in New
York twelve billion dollars over three years. It's costing the
City of New York to house illegal immigrants. And so
I think whenever push comes to shove, and we're looking

(17:54):
at this election right now, there's so many people might
not love everything Donald Trump's ever said, but they certainly
want to go vote for him because they want their
life back. They want more money in their pocket, and
they want to save for community, and they want peace agreements.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
There's a lot of people that say that, you know,
hold on ro I do want to just know that
inflation is down, though it's coming down, it's like the
two point five percent.

Speaker 5 (18:13):
It's coming down, it's not down, but wage growth has
not kept up with the rise in inflation, and it's
causing people to really hurt around this country. They really
can't make their basic ends meet right now.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
I mean inflations are down with the prices are up.
I mean who's part of that. That's more so the
corporations than it is government.

Speaker 5 (18:30):
Prices are say that again, inflation is down, but the
prices are Inflation is not down nearly enough. You can
bring inflation down significantly. And I think if we, if
we had an energy independent country, it would really help that.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
I was going to ask, you know a lot of
people feel that Trump is racist, and what do you
say to that. You know, in seventy three, of course,
it is when he got sued for not renting African Americans,
and eighty nine when he took out the ad in
the paper, and I mean even saying Obama wasn't born
here and show his birth certificate, and it's this numerous things.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
So what do you say to that.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
Well, I think that's ridiculous. I've known this man for
sixteen years, and you know, you can go to each
of those incidents and you know there was there was
never any any proof of anything with the houses that
you're talking about. They settled that that was and there
was no admission of anything there. You know, Central Park five,
there were so many people. You had a Democrat governor,

(19:20):
Democrat DA who prosecuted those the guys and they admitted
to it. There were a lot of people in New.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
York and there was never an apology.

Speaker 5 (19:30):
I will say that you have to look at somebody
and what they actually have done. And Donald Trump really
was very beneficial to the black community when he was
in the White House. I will say, I've never seen
this man say a racist thing. I think the attacks
are fairly Why is that funny, child?

Speaker 4 (19:51):
It's hysterical. But I mean people act like there's no
such thing as Google, we don't have TV.

Speaker 5 (19:56):
What is it that you think that that that's that?
He said.

Speaker 7 (20:00):
When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best.
They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, their rapists.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
This morning, a bitter backlash after President Trump referred to
Haiti and African nations as s whole countries during a
meeting on immigration Thursday.

Speaker 7 (20:18):
This from ark by the President of the United States
smacks of blatant racism.

Speaker 5 (20:23):
Here's what I'll say. You know, this is a man who,
as I said in the beginning, was beloved by so
many people in this country, and he was friends with everybody.
You go bout Jesse Jackson.

Speaker 6 (20:34):
By the way, please.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
No, no, no. He let them stay rent free in one
of his buildings. He the Rainbow Coalition because he felt
like at the time that was a very important thing.
You go pick apart somebody all you want. It is
a traditional talking point to attack Republicans, to call them racist.
But when you look at the things that he wants
for this country, he wants every person to be successful.
He wants Black Americans to be successful, hispan Americans to

(21:00):
be successful, women to be successful. And he worked that
way when he was in the White House. And whether
you want to talk about actually funding in perpetuity historically
black colleges and universities, whether you want to talk about
the First Step Act that allowed thirty thousand nonviolent felons
to be released from prison, who the nineteen ninety four

(21:21):
Crime Bill actually put in prison. These are things that
really have I feel like spoken to a lot of people.
But more so than anything, the economy right now is
such that I don't care who you are, it is
hurting you, and it is something that he wants to fix.
He wants every American to have their shot at the
American dream and you know I hate that. That is

(21:43):
the constant knee jerk is Donald Trump is a racist.
Donald Trump is a racist. I can tell you he
wants every person to be successful. He'll work for every
American equally. He did that the first term when he
was president, and he'll do it again.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
How you ask, like, how do you ask Mexicans and
Muslims take ignore a lot of the rhetorications to ignore it.
A lot of the rhetoric that he said about them
that is dangerous, that has villainized them, that has demonized them.

Speaker 5 (22:07):
Well, I would say anyone who's coming to this country illegally,
he's very against, and every American should be very against.
If you're an American citizen, Donald Trump doesn't care your religion,
he doesn't care what you look like. He will work
for you, and he wants to make this country safe
for you. We should all want a secure southern border.
A lot of the comments get misconstrued that he says
about people coming here illegally. They're breaking our federal law

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to come here illegally, and that should be upsetting to everyone.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
Well, when you make these broad generalizations, you do hurt
the Haitian Americans that are here, to Mexican Americans that
are here, they all get labeled in villainized and demonized.

Speaker 5 (22:41):
Yeah, but you know what, I think people are finally
seeing through that. It's very easy to clip up something
like that and say like, oh, let's push this out here.
When he's referencing these things, he's talking about people who
are illegally in our country. He doesn't want us to
have three hundred and fifty people on the TERAR watch list. Here,
there's a guy who was arrested the other day, an
ISIS member who was arrested the other day who had

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planned a November fifth, election day attack on American citizens.
ISIS was eradicated under Donald Trump. We did not even
talk about it anymore. He got into the White House
and he talked to his top military brass and he said, okay,
you guys, tell me how long is it going to
take to deal with ISIS. Because IIS was a big threat.
People were constantly talking about it, worried about it, worried
about terror attacks. They said, sir, it's going to take

(23:23):
us a couple of years. Maybe, you know, we have
to call the White House every time we want to
have some big operation. He said, how about this, You
guys just go do whatever it is you need to do.
You don't need to call me. You guys are the experts.
I'm not a military expert. You take care of it,
and let's see what happens. Four weeks ISIS was gone.
The fact that we're talking about ISIS back in the
United like here in the United States of American ISIS

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member should terrify everybody. The open border has been a disaster. So, yeah,
he's upset about it, and yes, he says things about
people coming here I legally and rightly so, and you
and I, as American citizens, should be the ones absolute
polutely infuriated that this has been allowed to happen.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
I agree with you, the border is a disaster. I
feel like the border is a bipartisan issue though, because
the border has been terrible under multiple administration.

Speaker 5 (24:10):
Well, we had the lowest border crossings when Donald Trump
was in the White House that we've ever had.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
Yes, but I still feel like it's going to take
some bipartisan legislation, you know, to actually fixing that the border.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
You can't do executive orders. You can't do that.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
So how come they can't come to terms on that,
and why did Donald Trump shoot down what they said
was one of the most comprehensive biportis in bipartisan border
bills that.

Speaker 5 (24:29):
If you actually read, if you actually read what was
in there, there was like sixty billion dollars for Ukraine.
There were so many issues with that. It would allow
one point eight million illegal immigrants into our country a year.
I mean, it was it was nonsense, honestly, Charlemagne, and
we should all want a secure southern borders. Why Donald
Trump built five hundred over five hundred miles of border
wall when he was in office, and you know, I

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went down to the border wall and I saw it
with my own eyes. I went down to Yuma, Arizona
about a month ago, and to talk to the people
in those communities. They say, now every state it is
a border state because of this. The people who live
in you at Arizona are being so negatively impacted. If
you're a pregnant woman in you my Arizona, they kind
of say, you may not want a plan to have

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a baby in our hospitals here because they're so overrun
taking care of people who cross the border. It's dangerous.
They say a third of women are sexually assaulted. The
people there told me it's probably closer to fifty percent
who come up over the southern border, so it's terrible
for them. But because of them having to take care
of all the illegal migrants coming over, you can't even

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be assured you're going to have a place to deliver
a baby in you Arizona. They say you're gonna have
to drive either two hours to San Diego or three
hours north to Phoenix. And so, having gone and seen
it with my own eyes, I'll tell you the most
infuriating part to me. You have this border wall that
Donald Trump built, and then laying down on the ground
where you have a wide open section, are pieces of

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the border wall that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris because
they campaigned and said we will not build another foot
of Donald Trump's borderwall. It's on the ground and there
are people who come right through there. They could stand
it up right now if they wanted to, but they
won't do it. That is very frustrating, I think to
see right now that we paid for that. It's right there,
ready to go, and if they're not leaving it on
the ground, then they're selling it for you know, pennies

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on the dollar.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
If the BIPOD isn't Borderbille was so bad, Like you say,
how come so many Republicans were for it until Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Intervened to say No.

Speaker 5 (26:23):
I don't think Donald Trump intervened at all. He's not
in he's not an elected office right.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
Now, and he literally told him not to do it.

Speaker 5 (26:30):
That. I don't think that's true. But I also know, Well,
ask Donald Trump yourself, he will tell.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
That's a good question. I wonder if for you, how
tough is it having the last name Trump? Because you
are to you know, the coach, you have the RNC.
You know you do have the last name Trump. We
know you're the daughter in law. How hard is it
for you to have to always answer questions about Donald Trump?

Speaker 5 (26:49):
Well, nothing prepares you for this, I can tell you
growing up where I did, I would have never expected
to have the last name Trump. I certainly would have
never expected to be involved in all of this. And yeah,
sometimes it's challenging, but I'll tell you, I really believe
when history looks back on this man, this is a
man who never needed this job. You know, you have

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to think back, like we were talking about before Donald
Trump was beloved by so many. He really got involved
in politics because he felt he could make a positive difference.
And most people would have had that first term in
office and seen how much they fought against him and said,
you know what, I'm not going to do this again.
But he decided to come back and do it again.
They indicted him, not once before times mugshot, obviously, two

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assassination attempts. And this is a man who continues fighting
for this country. And I will tell you I'm incredibly
proud to be his daughter in law. I'm incredibly proud
to have the last name Trump. Does it come with
its challenges because there is a lot of negative information
out there about Donald Trump. Absolutely, but I can't think
of anything better that I could be doing right now

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than trying to fight for the future of this country.
And I really believe that when people think about their
life with Donald Trump in office and their life right now,
they will always say, my life was better with him
in office. And we should all want a great country
and that's what I want. I want it for my kids.
I went for everybody's kids and grandkids. And it's not
just about renown, it's about the future of America.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
I keep saying he had a lot of celebrity friends
and they turned over. How does he feel about that?
Because you know, in the nineties, early two thousands, everybody
was hanging with Donald Trump. They were mentioning the man's
songs and yeah, going to his parties and all these events.
But they all have turned How does he feel about that?

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Do you know?

Speaker 5 (28:34):
I don't think he cares at all. I think he
knows what he's doing is so important right now. And
to kind of finish my point, I think when history
looks back on this man, he will truly go down
as one of the greatest presidents this country's ever had.
He puts so much on the line. Look, he's lost
zeros off the back of his net worth. He's the
only president to donate his salary every quarter. He came

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out of the White House with less money than he
went in. And he does it because he this country
and he really does want to see us successful. We
are the superpower of the world. That is such a
huge deal. But things are going in the wrong way
in a lot of different aspects. And I think one
of the scariest things to him right now is nuclear war.
You know, he talks about it all the time that

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it is a real possibility right now. You have Russia,
you have Iran, You have a lot of bad actors
out there who are chomping at the bit. They saw
the way we exited from Afghanistan. They see the weakness
right now in this White House. And you know, you
want a strong president because you want peace through strength,
and that's what we had. He was the only president
in eighty two years not to have a new war
under his leadership.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
Now that that back, what you just said just now
about the nuclear war is something I agree with. I
feel like there is too much casual conversation about nuclear
war from a lot of different world leaders that I
don't think we're discussing it enough.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, that I agree with.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
It's terrifying, and it's and you know, there are a
lot of people out there right now who aren't even
thinking about this. But imagine the United States gets into
World War three, and we indeed would be sucked right
into it. The people are are young men and women
in this country are going to be sent overseas and
it is going to be horrific. And on top of that,

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it won't be like any war we have ever seen
ever in the history of the world, because nuclear is
absolutely terrifying. It would destroy the world.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
It's going to last an hour, Yeah, it would be gone.

Speaker 5 (30:21):
Yeah, No, it's it's very scary. And you know, people
gave himself. You remember before when he was running in
twenty sixteen, they were like, we can't give this guy
the nuclear codes.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
I agree with that to this point.

Speaker 5 (30:31):
He was the only person, Charle mean not to get
us into a new war. He was the one who
got us the Abraham Accords peace agreements, so people said
were impossible in the Middle East. So why is that?
Why are you concerned about Donald Trump with the nuclear.

Speaker 6 (30:42):
Did you see what he did in Jane ray six?

Speaker 5 (30:44):
What did he What did he do?

Speaker 6 (30:46):
And he got a little bit upset and used his words?

Speaker 5 (30:49):
What words did he say though?

Speaker 6 (30:50):
The words that you said earlier.

Speaker 5 (30:52):
Peacefully and patriotically make your voices.

Speaker 6 (30:53):
And then what happened after that?

Speaker 5 (30:55):
So how is how are his work just actually.

Speaker 6 (30:58):
Because I think that for me, him being able to
just push a button, hypothetically speaking, it's a little bit
scary because we've seen kinda he gets a little bit
of radic when he wants to.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
Well, nothing happened for four years when he was in
the White House, and in fact, we had a peaceful world.
We had a stable world. We had world leaders who
were coming to the table to talk about issues like
Kim Jong un of North Korea. By the way, you know,
Obama when he left the White House told my father
in law, he said, the biggest problem you're gonna have
is North Korea. It is going to be your biggest challenge.

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It's gonna be the hardest thing you're gonna have to
deal with. And so Donald Trump said, all right, I'm
gonna try to see what we can do here, because
we want to have a denuclearized Korean peninsula. We do
not want North Korea with a nuclear weapon that is detriment.
I mean talk about nuclear war. Can you imagine talk
about a loose cannon. Kim Jong un? Really, And so
he started trying to make contact with him, and he

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was the first president to walk across the DMZ and
shake hands with the leader of North Korea, to have
conversations about getting rid of a possible nuclear weapon with
North Korea. That is great for the world. Their world
leaders did not even try it with Donald Trump because
they knew he meant business. When he drew a line
into the sand. He meant it, and the proof is

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in the pudding. So you know you can say, oh, well,
we're worried about this. You had four years, you had
no new wars, you had peace agreements instead of wars
breaking out in the Middle East. Look at it right now.
It is a hornet's nest and it is very scary
the trajectory from here to what could happen if you
don't have the right leadership.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
But it wasn't the peace wul transfer of power. And
he did lead an insurrection in his country. And I
know you keep saying anything about the peace and patriotic.

Speaker 5 (32:39):
Part, but yeah, offered National Guard troops in Nancy Pelosi.
She didn't want to take it.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Look here's what they also say. We fight like hell, and.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
We fight, we fight like hell.

Speaker 7 (32:49):
And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going
to have a country anymore.

Speaker 5 (32:53):
And if you don't fight like hell, every politician when
you go out on the stump.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Even after you got shot at which is terrible.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
First thing he did when he stood up with say fight, fight, fight,
fight who.

Speaker 5 (33:04):
He wants he wants to keep fighting for this country.
And you know this is this is my father in law.
I know, things get get really heated when it comes
to Donald Trump. People have very strong emotion, people have
very strong feelings about this man. But gosh, guys, I
can tell you he is not doing this for any
of her reason that then that he knows he can

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do the job necessary wants to save this country.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
I always say it's two reasons people run for office.
He's a extreme narcissists already are actual civil servant.

Speaker 5 (33:34):
Well, imagine having a great life, Imagine giving it all up.
Imagine knowing that the very people who were applauding you,
who invited you to all the fancy events, who were
some of your best friends, knowing we just talked about this,
they're going to turn their back on you. Imagine going
through it one time and then saying, you know what,

(33:56):
I got to come back and do it again because
my work is not done here and I really believe
I can do great things for this country.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
Oh, you've gotten indicted so many times, that's your way
to stay out of.

Speaker 5 (34:04):
Prison, and you believe those are all legitimate.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
I don't know if they're legitimate or not, but you
know he had the charges. I mean, that's not for
the course to decide, but he did.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
He did get.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
Convicted of thirty four I mean, that's for the course
to decide. I don't you know, it's not my plate
to say.

Speaker 5 (34:15):
We all know that if his name was not Donald Trump,
none of that would have ever seen the light of day.
And I believe all of those are going to be overturned.
Not because of that. You've already seen movement in that
with the appellate courts have already looked at some of
the things, like the Letitia James case, all of it.
It's it's outrageous. It's all outrageous, and it is actually

(34:37):
frightening because we should want good people with great ideas,
great business leaders, great people in whatever section of the
economy they're they're in, whatever their their background. We want good,
smart people to run for these offices. And what has
happened with Donald Trump, I think is so sad because
it really deters good people from running for office, and

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we really need good people, we should really want them.
Donald Trump is the only person who I believe they
know in Washington, d C. They can't control, and that's
a very scary prospect to them, because.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
When are you controlled by Russia, though, Are you kidding me?
I'm just asking. I'm not going a question. Is he
controlled by is he controlled by Putin?

Speaker 5 (35:19):
Are you really We couldn't have colluded with that. We
couldn't have colluded with Iowa in twenty sixteen, let alone Russia. Okay,
And by the way, you want to know who did
collude with Russia? It was Hillary Clinton and the DNC
and that was proven. They had the Steele dossier. They
paid money to get oppo research and make up stuff
about Donald Trump. And guess what happened to them for

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trying to interfere in an election. You want to talk
about the thirty four felony counts via Alvin Braggan Downtown Manhattan,
that was all about election interference. Hillary Clinton and the
DNC admitted to doing this and they got charged eighty
three thousand dollars. Does that seem fair to anybody here?
That's outrageous and it's ridiculous in every single person knows it.
So does Donald Trump have anything to do with Russia?

Speaker 8 (36:03):
No?

Speaker 5 (36:04):
You know what he wants to do with Russia. He
wants to get along with Russia so that we don't
have wars in Europe, right, now that's what he would
like to see happen.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Now, his life has been threatened twice in the possibility,
right because the other ones they say whatever, So we'll
say three times. Do you think it was because of
his rhetoric or do you think it's because of the
democrats rhetoric? Why do you think his life keeps getting
threatened like the way that it is. We've never seen
this ever in life, and it seems like he's his
life should be protected a lot.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Better than that, especially with secret service.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
So what's your thoughts on That's that's very nice. I
agree with you. You know, I think that when Donald
Trump came down that escalator, he was different. He came
right out of the gate and started saying things that
upset some people. But a lot of Americans resonated with that,
and they said, wait a minute, this guy kind of
talks like I talk, and I appreciate some of the

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things he's saying.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
He did kill the language of politics. I agree with him.

Speaker 5 (36:53):
Yeah, he's changed. He's changed the landscape of politics. And
whether you like Donald Trump or you don't, you probably
are more invested in politics now than you ever could
have imagined because of him. I do think that whenever
you have people out there who constantly talk about, we
need to take this guy out. He's a threat to democracy,

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he's this, that, and the other, and you demonize someone
so much over and over and over again. He's and
he's admitted that that is that. Obviously he was wrong,
he was misled.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Here's the thing that rhetoric would get you killed.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
Though.

Speaker 5 (37:30):
I can imagine if I watched I got my information
from the wrong news outlets, that I would probably hate
Donald Trump too. But I actually know him, and I'm
his daughter in law, and I'm part of this family,
and I know what he goes through on a daily
basis and know what he wants to do for this country.
The reason that why do I think you know people
have tried to assassinate him. I can only assume it's
because they don't want him to become president. And I

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can take that a lot of different ways. I can
tell you that, you know, being part of this family
and seeing what this man has gone through, I give
him so much credit. Most people you get one assassination
to you're probably out. Donald Trump is still there going strong,
and he said nothing, nothing will ever stop him.

Speaker 6 (38:11):
You never want it after that first attempt, just removing
the you know what I mean, like the business or
the work of the job. As his daughter in law,
who you have children those that's their granddad. You never
wanted him to just not continue.

Speaker 5 (38:24):
Well, it's not my decision, it's his decision. I mean,
do I think about it. Yeah, my kids were actually
watching that. We had that on at our house. Whenever
what did they say, Well, I tried to kind of
distract them from it, change the you know, change the
channel where they were. But they want to know, you know,
why would somebody try to her grandpa? What happened? Why

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did somebody do that? And I that's a tough one.
When your five year old asks you why somebody wants
to hurt grandpa. That's a tough one. And you know,
one day they'll be old enough to understand that. But
you know, we all worry about him all the time.

Speaker 4 (38:59):
When you hear Trump say things that he wants to
terminate the constitution, the overthought of results of an election,
What do you.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Think about it?

Speaker 5 (39:04):
When did Donald Trump say that?

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Oh? My god, he said it on a true social.

Speaker 8 (39:07):
It's the oath of office every president takes. Former President
Trump is now taking aim at this founding document opposed
from Trump, suggesting the possible termination of parts of the
Constitution and a redo of the twenty twenty election.

Speaker 5 (39:24):
That's not what he said. Donald Trump is a strong
supporter of the United States Constitution, and he wants free,
fair and transparent elections. And he wants every American, no
matter how you vote, to have your opportunity to vote
and only legal votes counted.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
What do you think when you said he had every
right to interfere in the twenty twenty election.

Speaker 7 (39:41):
Whoever heard you get indicted for interfering with a presidential
election where you have every right to do it.

Speaker 5 (39:49):
I think whenever you are the commander in chief and
you're the leader of this country, you should have every
American feeling very comfortable that their vote mattered and they're
vote counted. And the problem with twenty twenty is that
was such a crazy election. You had COVID, you had
people boarding up windows places, you had a lot of
people with a lot of questions. Those questions never got answered,
and instead of actually getting to a place where we

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could answer those, everybody's like, well, we just got to
move on. And so it is his duty I think
to make sure that everybody feels like their vote was counted,
and that's what he was trying to accomplish.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
Yeah, but if you're getting asked about, you know, you know,
your indictment for interfering with the presidential election, your response
shouldn't be I had every right.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
To do that, your indictment meaning the Alvin Bragg.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
No, he got indicted for interfering with your election. So
when you're asked about that by a new by NBC,
I think it was NBC. I forgot who was he's
doing an interview with. It was with Fox News. When
you're asked that question, I don't think your response should
be I had every right to do it.

Speaker 5 (40:45):
Well, that was his response, But I tell you what
he was trying to do is trying to make sure
everybody had their vote counting for sure.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
And I understand why you support, you know, your father
in law, that's your father in law, you're the coach,
you had a RNC. But his policies, especially towards women,
they absolutely take away rights women.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
What do you think about that?

Speaker 7 (41:01):
That?

Speaker 5 (41:02):
What do you mean which rights?

Speaker 4 (41:03):
The Roe V Way being overturned, women's reproductive right.

Speaker 7 (41:07):
There's for fifty four years they were trying to get
Roe v. Wade terminated, and I did it, and I'm
proud to have done it.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
What we talk.

Speaker 5 (41:14):
So here's the thing that's been very interesting to me
about this entire election. It's obviously abortion has become really
the number one issue of the Democrats, I think, and
I think it's because they know that a lot of
what they've done in this country. People are smart enough
to see like it's been bad. People are hurting. Like
we said earlier, we've already established that you got wars,

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you got an open border, you got people with less
money in their pocket. Camp makens meet. So what do
you do you say, all right, we got to go
hard on abortion. What happened when the Supreme Court said
we're going to get rid of Roe v. Wade is
that the most democratic of things happened, which is that
this went back to the states, so that we the
people actually have the opportunity in our respective states to

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vote on it. Donald Trump has said he will not
sign a federal abortion ban. Should be out of the
hands of the federal government. And actually it's a great
thing so that here in New York there might be
a vote that is very different than what they might
have in Alabama or California or Nevada. It's all up
to us, we the people in our respective states. And

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so I think the talking point that Donald Trump is
somehow threatening, this is outrageous. He wants he said, I
want nothing to do with Well, he.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Takes credit for it.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
He said, I put the three Supreme Court judges on
the on the stand that actually over time.

Speaker 5 (42:29):
Rowna you know what in some places Charlemagne. It actually
means that things are going to be more liberal and
they're gonna have a lot longer opportunity for people to
have abortioned. Some places it might be less, but you
know what, that is up to the people of the states.
And Donald Trump, I think has been very clear that
it should never have been in the hands of the
federal government. It should have never been the hands of

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the United States Supreme Court to decide. It should be
up to the people.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Well, he's moonwalking now.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
He said, he said some abortion laws are too tough
and need to be redone, and he said in his
Fox News town hall Wednesday that they're going to be redone.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
He said they're too tough.

Speaker 5 (43:04):
Well, I think that's up to the states and the
states have to vote on it, but he said I
want nothing to do with it. And by the way,
while we're on the topic, IVF, something that they've also
lied about and said, Donald Trump does not want IVF.
He is one hundred percent in favor of IVF. He
wants more babies up for here. And it's sad because
that talking point has really taken over things and people
are you know, convinced of you know, Donald Trump, as

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you're saying he is a threat to women's rights, he's
not at all. He wants you to decide in your
state how you want things to look, and he wants
to take his hands off of it.

Speaker 4 (43:34):
I mean, if you're taking credit with a Supreme Court,
just is that overturn roll vie with But isn't.

Speaker 5 (43:38):
That good so that we can just send it back
and we can all vote on it.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
No, I don't think.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
I think anytime you take away people's power with choice,
that's not good on any level.

Speaker 5 (43:49):
Well, it was good. It's up to us to decide.
So everybody get out and vote.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
You know.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
You know, Donald Trump always talks about fake news, right
and recently me and my co host over here was
talking about a commercial and he chopped up the commercial
and put it out. It was fake news and it
was showing that we were going against Kamala Harrison supporting
Donald Trump.

Speaker 5 (44:07):
Oh you guys here, Yes, did you see a commercial?

Speaker 4 (44:11):
It's been all over TV AD.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
So what do you say about something like that that's
fake news that we see so much, that was literally
cut up and spliced and made look that was totally not.

Speaker 5 (44:18):
Well, I haven't seen that one. I know what you're talking,
I know what you're referencing. I haven't seen that one.
So I can't really a pine on that. But you're
saying that not everybody does that, that it.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
Was fake news.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
I'm I'm just asking.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
It's just weird to throw it out there, and you know,
talk about fake news, but that was totally fake and
it just seemed totally falsified.

Speaker 5 (44:34):
Well, I was like, if you want to pull it up,
I'll take a look at it. But I haven't seen
that one.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
Do you listen to the show?

Speaker 5 (44:40):
I do sometimes.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
You know, Charlemagne has probably given Donald Trump donky to day,
the most donky out of everybody.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
I'm fair and balanced.

Speaker 5 (44:48):
Though, accolade, so thank you balance.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
I give all elected officials. He just gets it a
little more well.

Speaker 5 (44:56):
I like, do you say that you're independent? Yeah, that
you're not a affiliated with any party. That's that's cool.
I like that you just you go based on policy.
And I think there are a lot of people out
there who feel that way right now. I mean, you've
seen a mass exodus of voters from the Democrat Party.
You have actually more people in America right now.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
That's a little overstated though.

Speaker 5 (45:16):
Now there are more people in America and polling right
now who consider themselves to be Republicans than Democrats. But
I think that we all know that this election and
all elections come down to independent voters. So we're working
hard for your vote.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Chernal Mayne, You're not getting it.

Speaker 5 (45:30):
I don't know how much longer do we have? How
much longer do we have?

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Trump wants to jail journalists. You know, I'm a I'm
a radio personality.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
When you have jobs, the media monopolies, No, no, no, forget
the media monopolies, he said out of his mouth.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
He said it numerous times. He was with I think
it was he was in with Mission Period other day
and he was like, watch what I do. I think
it was with the New York tanks say, wa should
I do to them? He said, news license.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
He literally said he wants to jail journalists who opposed him.

Speaker 5 (45:57):
And you believe that did he jail journalists whenever he
was in the way?

Speaker 4 (46:00):
What are you saying? My thing is this? Why say
things that he doesn't believe? If he doesn't want us
to believe?

Speaker 5 (46:06):
Well, I would have to actually hear him say that.

Speaker 7 (46:08):
Take the writer and or the publisher of the paper
and you say who is the laker?

Speaker 1 (46:14):
And they say, we're not going to tell you.

Speaker 7 (46:15):
They say it's okay, you're going to jail.

Speaker 5 (46:17):
You may have heard of something as called sarcasm, and
Donald Trump operates in that quite a bit. And sometimes
the things that he says, I think get misconstrued. He's
being sarcastic about things and joking about a lot of things,
and then people say, wait a minute, he says this,
that and the other.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
But he's running for president.

Speaker 5 (46:32):
But believe way, Donald Trump is the lead. He hates
the term politician. He still does not want to consider
himself a politician, albeit he's been president obviously for four years.

Speaker 6 (46:43):
There's so many just real quick, I was going to
pull up the clip of him that Charlie was talking
about the side type that Donald Trump threatens to jail journalists,
and it's like Donald Trump threatens to jail political opponents.
Donald Trump threatens to jail election official, not like he
definitely tries to jail talk about thrown out there when
he was in the White House, and there was a

(47:05):
lot of talk when he was running against Hillary Clinton.

Speaker 5 (47:08):
About locker up? Did he ever do that? He did not,
you know why, because he actually believes that that's a
really horrible thing to do. And there's no one who's
been persecuted more than this man. There's no one who's
been attacked more because of politics than this man. And
talk about weaponizing, you know, the judicial system against somebody,
that's Donald Trump, and he he hates to see that.

(47:29):
He hates the way that that's happened. I think it's awful.
I think it's bad for this country. And so he
wants to fight for equality in terms of justice. And
you should never ever be attacking and going after your
political opponents using the weaponization of our our justice systems.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
All. What would you like to see Trump do better?

Speaker 5 (47:48):
Do better? I just wish people knew the side of
him that I know more. To be honest, I wish
that he would allow us to showcase the Donald Trump
that I get to see behind the scenes with my kids,
with my family. He's one of the funniest people I
have ever met. I mean amazing. But I think the
reason he doesn't do that, and the reason that he

(48:09):
sort of shies away from that, is because he understands
that when you are the leader of the free world,
you have to operate from a position of power, and
you want to maybe make people a little bit nervous
out there, the adversaries and the allies, because you think
about when he was in office and in the White House.
You know, there was so much that was accomplished on

(48:29):
the world stage for the United States, and I think
it was very good that we had a strong leader
in the White House. And so I actually think the
reason he never does that is because he doesn't want
to show that side of him. He likes to operate
from this position of power. So if it were up
to me, I would show that side of him all day,
because I think you guys, men, we see the.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Other side, because you know, looking at on the outside,
he looks mean, right, yeah, you know, grab a bout
of pussy and mentally disabled and mentally impaired and very
dumb person. Now, because you said he was joking, and
that's why I was asking, because you said, he, oh,
he's just joking when he says things like that.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
Joe Biden became mentally impaired.

Speaker 7 (49:04):
Kamala was born that way.

Speaker 5 (49:08):
Well, I think that it would be hard to not
look at what's happened in this country and imagine that
somebody was truly able to execute things well and as
a very smart, very bright person. If your job, and
I know she doesn't want this label as borders are,
but your job was to deal with the southern border,

(49:30):
and we have had well, actually.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Her job was to get to the root of the
issues of.

Speaker 5 (49:34):
The page Board dead And why did they repeal all
of the things that Donald Trump had put in place
to make sure that we did not have an influx
of people coming into this country. You've had eleven million
plus people illegally come into this country. Again, I just
talked about three hundred and fifty people on the terror
watch list. You have fifteen thousand people who are sexual assaulters.

(49:55):
You have had thirteen thousand murderers come in here. It's horrible.
It's horrible for this So some of the things you
have to ask yourself. I don't know how smart can
a person be if this is the way that they
are operating. And I think that's his whole point. We
want somebody who's going to do the job and do
it well. And the proof is in the pudding. You
had Donald Trump for four years, saw how he did

(50:16):
the job. You saw how your life was. Take a
look around right now. Doesn't feel very good for many people.

Speaker 6 (50:22):
What do you There was a video that went viral
of you and Eric when you guys were on the
boat in the parade, in the neo Nazi boat hold
up and join the parade.

Speaker 5 (50:32):
Oh my god, absolutely disgusting. I can tell you there
was no one more upset about that boat and those
people who clearly were not out there to be part
of that parade. They were there to cause disruption and
to try to insinuate that in some way that there's
anyone out there who would agree with that. Everyone was disgusted,
and actually I think they had the cops called on
them multiple times and asked to remove them from from

(50:54):
that boat. Parye. There's nobody who gets more upset about
that than Trump supporters, because that is it's it's so
disgusting and so disgraceful, and obviously everyone's very upset about that.

Speaker 6 (51:03):
Oh good. A day ago, Trump's campaign said that those
flying SWASAKA flags were liberal activists. So like, why is
it that I think when things when things like this happen,
like you guys don't come out right away and say
what you just said. You kind of let things go,
and it made a lot of people upset that they
didn't hear from you guys sooner, like just denouncing it

(51:24):
like you did. You came out right away and just
denounced it and separated yourself from it. Why doesn't that happen?

Speaker 5 (51:29):
Well, as soon as anyone's asked about it, I think
we do. I'm not going to draw attention to these
these people.

Speaker 6 (51:34):
It was super n though, and I know you know
online because you just did it.

Speaker 5 (51:38):
But but I but I'm not going to be the
person to draw any attention to these people, right They're
out there to get attention, and if someone is asked
about it, then obviously we're going to denounce it immediately.
And it's disgraceful. But see, it's frustrating that so do
you think that like we really agree with that on
any level and that there's some like room we're trying
to give for these people because we're not. And Donald

(51:58):
Trump was the first to say it. And while we're
talking about things.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
Take a long time to denounce white supremacist he's dismissing.

Speaker 6 (52:06):
Activity three days after white supremacists marched in the streets.
The president is now back to square one again, blaming
all sides.

Speaker 7 (52:15):
You had a group on one side that was bad,
and you had a group on the other side that
was also very violent. I've condemned neo Nazis, I've condemned
many different groups, but not all of those people were
Neo Nazis. Believe me, not all of those people were
white supremacists. And you had in that group, but you

(52:35):
also had people that were very fine people on both sides.

Speaker 5 (52:40):
Absolutely not. Let me tell you the one thing that
I think is very frustrating is this talking point with
Donald Trump, and it gets perpetuated because it took seven
years for Snoopes to come out with the Charlottesville stuff
and say, actually, what Donald Trump said, his entire comment
that was cut short, and the only thing people here
he said there were very fine people on both sides

(53:02):
except the neo Nazis and white supremacists who should be
condemned totally. But you don't hear that. And so for
seven years people were led to believe that Donald Trump
somehow supported neo Nazis and white supremacist is outraged.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Remember I don't remember him saying that.

Speaker 5 (53:17):
Well, you can look it up right now, and I
promise you there you know why you don't remember, because
unfortunately that clip has been played time and time and
time again to try to convince people. You just asked
me that people say Donald Trump's racist to try to
convince people that he's racist. Of course he's not. Of
course he's going to condemn you a Nazis white, No,

(53:38):
I was gonna say. And of course, by the way,
the Nazi flags are you kidding me? Disgusting and we
never want anybody those people should pocket?

Speaker 1 (53:47):
What of my pocket?

Speaker 5 (53:54):
Like all I got and there's chapstick. I don't know what.

Speaker 4 (53:57):
But I think we do politicize to any issues as
opposed to getting to real solutions, Like even when you
know we say things like the VP was the borders
are we know that's not true.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
We know that there's a digit.

Speaker 5 (54:08):
I mean, she's in charge of the The Secretary of
Homeland Security is in charge of the border.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
We know that, but she.

Speaker 5 (54:14):
Was she was I'm sorry, you go back and all
the interviews with her, it was in March of twenty
twenty one. She was given this task. That's the only
one's talking about. How are you going to do with
the border? How are you going to do with the border?
And you're right, she says root causes, but we've had
eleven million plus.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
But that's really her job.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
She was there to evaluate the fact is that caused
people to leave their home countries in the first place.
The person that manages the border was the Secretary of
Homeland Security. We know that though, But like we we
do this just to politicize the issue.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
And that's why things don't ever get done. That's my
problem with both parties.

Speaker 5 (54:44):
Yeah, I hear you. I hate politicizing all this stuff.
I think if we would be so much better served
talking about the things that impact people's lives. And when
you're talking about what's impacting people's lives right now, one
of those things, the number two thing that people routing
on right now there is the is the border and
illegal immigration. The number one priority right now is the economy. Economy,

(55:05):
and so I think you you know, I've said it
a bunch of times in here.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
I think you just got to compare with this, which
is why Trump shouldn't be spending sixty five million dollars
on anti transads, because that's not even the top issue
that people look talking about.

Speaker 5 (55:17):
Well, he didn't do that. That was one of the
super PACs. Pat okay, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
All right, Well, we appreciate you for joining us.

Speaker 5 (55:23):
Well, thank you, guys. I'm glad to be here discussion.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Yeah, the coach of the Republican National Committee, thank you
so much for joining us.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
It's Laura Trump.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
And it's interesting to me how I do watch y'all
and I do see the conversations that y'all are willing
to have. Yeah, and I think that, uh, there's something too,
here's something today.

Speaker 5 (55:44):
Yes, I'm here, Yes, absolutely, thank you. We appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
It's Laura Trump.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
It's the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 4 (55:49):
Good morning, wake that answer up in the morning.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
The Breakfast Club