The Breakfast Club sit down with Michael Rubin to discuss the exciting details of Fanatics Fest NYC, the epic White Party, and his experiences with some of the biggest names in the industry, including Drake, Meek Mill, and Lil Baby. Michael Rubin also opens up about the need to address Black-on-Black hate. Listen for more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The Breakfast Club Morning everybody is DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne,
the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Jess Urlaris is
on maternity leave, so we got Laura LaRosa filling in.
And we got a special guest in the building, guy
the founder and CEO of Fanatics, and he is doing
a Fanatic Fest this weekend at the Jacob Javid Center
this weekend, Saturday and Sunday. Your favorite athletes, artists, celebrities
(00:27):
will be in the building. You can get things autographed.
They will be selling merch and it's perfect because I'm
doing My Call show this weekend, so there's a lot
of things to do. They can go to your My
Call show, your Fanatic fests. But ladies and gentlemen, Michael Rubin, welcome,
Glad to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
How you feeling always love being here, feeling great change?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
You did not sound like that? Is that you're announcer voice.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Glad to be here?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Let's call.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I forgot trying to get like an overnight job with
you guys here. Maybe you guys can.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
It's a fight, Okay, well we could get a job here.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
You think I come to you to the four am.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
We can't afford a Mike Ruban like free labor.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Oh now now you're talking. Now you said I forgot someone?
Did I forget?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
It's actually Friday Saturday and side Friday Saturday and side.
What do you is the car show Big on Fridays
Saturday Saturday. Okay, I thought you just I thought you
were trying to kill off competition.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, Friday Saturday.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Now we're pumped for this week. And this is really exciting.
You know, for me, New York's my favorite city in
the world to kind of do something that's never been done.
There's really not a sports festival anywhere in the world,
and you have this. When we think about this, you
have so many other festivals. You have Comic Com which
takes over in New York City gets a quarter of a
million people. You've got Complex Com, which I'm going to
go to in November, and Vegas. You've got you know,
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all the music festivals. You've got south By Southwest and
I don't know why no one's ever done this. In sports,
you've got the trading card shows, which they have a
thousand of in the country. But I went to a
trading card show. There's a big trading card show called
the National which gets one hundred and fifty thousand people.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Is that one in Atlantic City?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
It was in Atlantic City a couple of years ago.
It was in Cleveland a few weeks ago. So change
the cities each year, and you walk in there, You're like,
this is nuts. There's one hundred and fifty thousand people.
But it looks like when I went to high school.
So it hasn't changed since like the nineties. And so
I basically went to comic kind of New York City
and said, we got to do the same We gotta
do the same thing for sports. So it's gonna be
our first time doing it. Javits. This weekend, we're gonna
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have like two hundred of the best athletes, celebrities, artists
coming through all the leagues are coming. I mean, you
got Tom Brady's gonna be throwing footballs to kids for
an hour on Friday. Kadi and Ant with their Olympic
medals coming in Saturday, they're gonna be playing basketball with kids,
football with kids. You've got I actually last night said
this is nuts. I actually have a bunch of NBA
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players call me and said, hey, can I play basketball?
Can I play football? With kids? Like normally you're trying
to get people to come do these things. And we
got the best streamers in the world coming, and we've
got so many the big stre We've got Adi and
Ross come, and Druski come in Sketch coming. We're gonna
announce a few really big additional streamers that are coming.
So like, to me, just to bring everyone together is.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Awesome exactly though, Like what is it.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
It's just a giant sports festival, okay, elebrating sports. Yeah,
it's just it's for me. It's like, what would you
want every sports fan to dream of doing if they
could just not be the actual sports event and come.
So you've got like NFL will be there, and you can,
you know, see all the Super Bowl rings since they've
had a Super Bowl, all the Lombardi trophies.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I see Tom Brady, Eli and Peyton. Is that true?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah? Wow? Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (03:18):
How would that work?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Because IVE seen him sign an autograph, so you can
buy an autograph signed jersey there or they just win jerseys.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
So I think for Eli and Peyton you can sign
up to either get your picture with them and you
can pay to get your picture with them or an autograph.
Tom's just coming in. Tom's gonna be interviewed by Steven A.
Smith on the main stage. Then he's gonna be doing
football with kids. He'll be I think he actually wants
to walk around and look at trading cards because he's
will into trading cards. So he'll be there all day Friday.
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I'm sure you guys know we're popping up for forty forty.
I expect to see you guys there this weekend. Jay's
gonna be hosting it all weekend, which is gonna be nuts.
And you know, Jay called me and said, look, I
love forty forty. I want to do something special. You know,
why don't we set this up for people that are
reportant to people. You know, the athletes and celebrities are
coming through to support us, our most important gamblers. I
think you guys know Jay and Dez on part of
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our gambling business, and so you know, it's kind of
you think about having like Jay Z hosting forty forty,
Travis Scott, Quavo, a bunch of other artists that you
guys you know, all spent a lot of time with,
but then having you know, guys like Brady and Peyton
and Elis of the football players having k D and
and and Ai and Julius. I mean, yeah, he's coming.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
Mike Tyson, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
And Jake Paul they're doing that. I can't wait for that.
I was just with Jake at the Olympics. I could
tell you if he looked like he looked at the
Olympics walking out of the bar we walked out of
at five am in the morning. You know, I don't know.
I could be worried for him, but I mean I
called to make fun of him. Yes, I said, you
know that that did not look good.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Oh I thought he got Mike Tyson.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
No, no, no, I no when I was no, no,
he walked out. There was very funny videos of him
online stumbling out of yeah. No, no, no, he wasn't faking.
He he definitely wasn't faking. He's a sloppy.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Drunk, gotcha. Oh he's gonna get knocked out then.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, Well, no, I don't.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I just I think he's not drinking before his fight. Yeah,
to Halkkan's gonna be there, by the way, Cody Roase
is going to be there. Ray Mysterio is going to
be there. I've had a couple, you know, a couple
I think you know, a couple of the artists, like Yo,
Ray Mysterious. We love Ray Mysterious. So like you know,
it's a we have twenty five wrestlers coming. We got
the UFC champ coming, you know, the Alex Peira, there's
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Holly Holmes coming. I mean it's in every sport. We've
got great people coming. But then the league activations are
also amazing, like just you know, you know, NBA set
up there to have different skills competitions, and I've always
got skills competitions hockey, soccer. I think, by the way, punching,
how hard can you punch the UFC bag? How can
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you slap? So it's it's gonna be everything.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Thank you to fanatics too.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
You know, I do my back to school drive in
my hometown amongst corner every weekend. I don't even know
if you've noticed, but Fanatics donated a bunch of backpacks.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I didn't know that. But whatever you guys need, were
always there for you, gus, because you guys are great
friends of families.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
So well, they did it specific to like Carolina teams,
so like the game cocks and the hornets and yeah,
so thank you.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I love that absolutely, I love that. Yeah, I got
to tell you who did it. I don't remember who
did it. I'll tell you. You can get it.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
They just know you guys need something absolutely.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Now, how does this difference from the White Party?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Michael Rumy, So, look.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
You're not invited to the White Party, but you invited
into this.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Everything to you guys who generally invited everything. The one
thing I'll say is like, look, I love bringing people
together and that comes from the way I learned. And
the thing that people don't get about me because everyone
thinks I'm being self deprecating, but actually being serious. Like
when you got a seven eighty combined on your SATs,
you barely made out of high school, you went to
college for part of a semester, and you haven't read
(06:46):
a full books. And I've read a book since ninth grade.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
That's nothing to brag about, okay, but it's.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Pretty seven eight and sts pretty bad is pretty combined
out of sixteen hundred.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Not the best of learning.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
And so the way I learn is from people around me.
So I'm much better to ask you questions, to ask
you questions, ask you questions, and so I love bringing
people from different backgrounds together so we can all learn
from each other. And that's the way. That's the way
I've always learned. I've always like asked questions, not been
afraid to ask whatever's on my mind. And so I
think when I started the White Party, it was really
about how do I know, take this really diverse group
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of friends, Like I have friends go from Robert craft
UNEs the New doing the Patriots, to Travis Scott to
you know, to meet to you know, commissioner of a
sport to a CEO of Airbnb or the CEO of Uber.
So it's like bringing all these people together and I
love doing that. The thing with fanatics pest it says,
how do you create this incredible sports gathering? And you
don't have that other than actual games. And I think
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there's so many things that you can do at a
Super Bowl or a MLB All Star Game or an
NBL Star Game for that each sport, but no one
brings it all together. And then generally it's pretty hard
to get the athletes, the artists, the you know, players
to come through and really support. So we try to
do a bunch of special things, like you know, Travis
Scott's launching cactus Jack exclusive trading cards at fanatics Fest
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on Saturday. Those are going to be and those cards.
People are going crazy for those cards. I've never had
more people hit me up and say, Yo, how do
I get those cactus Jack you know, m willb trading
cards that you're launching at fanatics Fest. So there's a
lot of exclusive products as well. So it's really trying
to just create lots of things for everybody. My goal
the test of this like if we succeed, Okay, we'll
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be at the end of the show. Do people do
the tens of thousands of fans that came say we
love being there, like this was awesome. Do the talent
that came through say, hey, this actually wasn't something that
like we felt like we were Fortunately we love doing
it and that right now I'm feeling because people keep
hitting me up and say how can I get involved?
How can I do more? And then do we take
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over social? I want, like the way the White Party
takes over social. I want this to be Fanatics Fest
needs to own the weekend. Thank god, you know, great
Olympics outcome that's finished. Now I got a bunch of
people and the Olympics coming. Just heard a lot of
the womans soccer team is going to be showing up
as well, which is great, a lot of gold medals.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
It's definitely going to dominate socials absolutely.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
And when you have all of these different groups of
people from you know, different industries, like everybody's gonna chatting about.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
That, and we got crazy stuff. Like the thing I'm
most excited about last night I was. I was up
till two am with my team going through each and
every stunt, Like we got stunts every hour, like one
of the cool things. When I went to this the
show that used to be in Atlantic City was in
Atlantic City, that was in Cleveland a few weeks ago,
I saw two guys in full Oakland A's uniforms and
I called my guys up and like, yo, everyone dresses
(09:34):
for Comic Con. How do we get everyone to addressed
for Fanatics Fest? And so literally I just went out
and said, look, anyone who comes in a full team
uniform or a super fan uniform, We're going to take
the best dressed person each hour on hour and bring
them back to meet one of their you know, trillio. Yeah.
So someone comes into Tom Brady outfit and they've got
the do you know, the helmet in the jersey and
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the pads and hands and everything where they come into
crazy Patriots. We may bring them back to be Tommy.
Someone call is Peyton Manning Altge. Yeah, so what ten
people do that the best trast each hour? Okay, so
we're gonna do It's it's basically twenty five thirty people
for the weekend and we got two hundred athletes there,
so it can be easy for us to and by
the way, if we see crazy stuff, maybe we do
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more than one an hour. So it's just like creating
those experience. Think about if you're a you know, you're
a diehard Julie Serving fan and you just Julie Served
as the press you looked up to you coming to
full Julie Serving outfit and were bringing back to meet
doctor j I mean how close that are allers? He's
playing basketball kids on Sunday. So we want to make
sure we just create incredible experiences that nobody else.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
There's a sports combine.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yeah, well, I mean well, because you've got each league
is there. So you've got the NFL, the NBA, NHL,
ms WWE, UFC millb all there with activation, So you
really be like like, I know a lot of the
streamers are coming through and I people talking a lot
that ship right now. But who's gonna beat who in
different competitions right now? I got money on Quavo say
(11:00):
now that he's a streamer, I got my he's very athletics.
He wins a lot of athletic competitions. I got. I
know who who. I got a lot of people saying things,
it's gonna be fun, is I think? I told Aiden
ROSSI is gonna take a lot of abuse from a
lot of people this weekend when he told me he
was gonna come and show up strong in sports. So
it's gonna be fun to see who shows strong and
who's uh who has my athletics.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
It was not a real combine like people people canna
be doing outstaring, No, but people are gonna be doing.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
The forty yard day like I mean, you know you
have old slow guys like me, and then you're gonna
have super fast you know streamers that are tearing it
up in the So there's gonna be a lot of
competitions there.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
How long is the fest? Because I know the white
party is thirteen hours.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
So I specialized along of it. Yeah, the White Party
is a test of seeing what you're made of. And
I'll tell you we drank the.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
Full third people drink the four thirteen hours definitely Wow.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
So the White Party starts at five pm and it
ended at six am this year, and there were probably
three hundred people when it ended, and there's only there
was less than fo hundred people at the total party.
So that means most people can good resilience. I'd say
you trained for it. The funny thing is like what
Michael Parsons calls me, says like, yo, man, I'm training
for this. I'm getting into training. Like you know, people
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call and saying, I gotta gotta build my durance something.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
No reason to be at a party for thirteen You know.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
What people would say. People would say they have such
a great time. There's so many great people saying. Remember
it's four different parties within the parties, so you start
with you know, cocktails, and there's really a lot of
good I think business things that come from that. You
know so many you know, when you have CEOs of
some of the best consumer companies together with you know,
best artists, best athletes together with just iconic business people.
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Like a lot of things come from that. We've also
made created a lot of relationships out of there too,
a lot of marriages, relationships.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
I heard with Donovan Mitchell and Coco Jones.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I know, I know, I know Mobamba met his I
think now wife there, yes, yeah, And and you know,
I keep I read the rumors of what I see
out there, people who met at the right place. So
I love that. But do you even more the business
relationships that come out of there? And and to me,
there's so many great relationships that have started and created there,
and that to me is like the test of are
(13:10):
we doing well? We're helping people get to know each other,
are great business outcomes coming for them? And I love
doing that. You see that. Look, you guys have all
been to my Super Bowl party. You see that there
were a lot of you know, great business opportunities come
from that as well?
Speaker 7 (13:22):
Do you because the business relationships come out of it's
good vibes. But like when you see stuff online like
Drake was there this year and everybody was like, oh
they weren't allowed to play, not like us, Like does
that stuff bother you?
Speaker 4 (13:31):
And was that even true.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
It was true, and and and look for me, Look,
I'm always you know, I just don't think, you know,
Drake's my friend for a long time. I'm not gonna
invite him and then have you know, you know, he's look,
he's obviously going through he's going through a little bit
of battle right now. I'm not going to have him
come there and and and.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
And being battle more battle.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
I just didn't think it was appropriate. So I just
said a notice. I said, hey, let's not play you know,
anyone's music. That's feudy when anyone's there. I mean, look,
you gotta but that was a you decision. It wasn't
like Drake was like no players of me decisions. It
was the proper thing. I will I will tell you
the day before we had a small barbecue for a
few hours that was supposed to be thirty people, turned
into two hundred people and went for about ten hours.
The night before that was the pre game to the
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to the White Party, and they turned the music on
just like in my house, like it was. They put
rap caviar and not like Us came on. It was
like in the middle of not like us, I'm like,
get that off, get that Drake was there. He was
pulling up super Yeah. It wasn't I throw me under
(14:37):
the bus like that.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Did you see the memes of your pictures with Drake
or you and Drake, and everybody's like, Drake looks so sad.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
He had a by the way, he had a great time.
Look you got if there's one thing someone just said
something to me on social media, you gotta be built
for social media. You gotta be tough, you gotta take
ship from people. I actually one of the those people
don't understand about my personal I actually liked the abuse.
I actually like it doesn't bother me at all. You know, Look,
Drake is an iconic artist that we all have tremendous
(15:03):
respect for. You know, obviously you can't what I said
to Drake, and I really believe this is this is
a great test for him, Like you can't get to
where he's got to and not have people coming for you.
I know, you know, I sleep with one eye open.
I know right now. You know, we're in three businesses.
People coming for me in every business every day, and
that's part of you know, which success comes, you know,
(15:23):
more competition, more hatred, and you know, the best people
show why they're the best and if you're not the best,
to crack and you fall apart. So I think this
is a great test for him. I think you know,
he's going to come out with, you know, lots of
incredible music, and I think people right, I think people
are going to say, that's why Drake is Drake. So
I like that test for him.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
I think social media bothers you a little bit because
one thing I did notice from the White party, I
didn't see any hugs.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
There was no hugs from the best, So no.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
One was a bigger hugger than me. I will say
I pay attention to everything, and I decided people right
or wrong. I think that was pathetic. I think it
was a joke a little baby. Yeah. Look, by the way,
you know what I hate when watching a black person
trying to take a black person down. That's fucked up. Okay,
let's keep it real. Okay, Baby is one of the
best human beings in the planet. There's not a person
(16:12):
who will always do more for his community, who's a
great human being who works his ass off. And here's
what happened with Baby. Baby did great and then people
came for him. Okay, and then you know what happened.
Then he comes out with more great music and he
shows why he's Baby, And so for me, it actually
it was one of the few things in my life
that ate it me because I felt responded even though like,
look the amount of people.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Just showing him love. I mean, people would just make
a jokes, but it was, well.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Let's keep this real. The amount of people who I've
in a thirteen hour drunken party, okay, that I've jumped
on their back and someone's caught a picture is like,
I've done that a thousand times now. I will tell
you that, like in my head, you know that ain't
happen anymore, just because I will, Like, if it was me,
I would think it's funny, but it actually hurt him
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a little bit for you, and that ate it me.
That did eat it me. But you know what again,
the one thing I'd say, when you're doing great, people
try to test you. And I think that's a great
you know, I think that's a great character test. And
I think Baby showed why he's him. Drake's in the
show why why He's Him? And you know, for me,
last year is probably the first time people ever came
to me I've generally been you know, I think people
showed me a lot of love and support. And you know,
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last year I realized, you know, NAS got a little bigger,
I became a little more well known, and so hey,
it's you know, it's easy to try to pick up
me for things. So yes, I am a little more careful.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Now, don't let nobody stop you from hugging people.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Listen, I'm gonna i'm many people.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
From the back as you want.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
I've never seen you hu the back. You never grabbed
Ja from the back.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I've hugged everywhere. First of all, I've hugged at if
you get me, really.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
Don't tell him you hug jay Z from the bag.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I'm a hugger.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Drunk, you hug any man from the back of what
you thinking?
Speaker 7 (17:49):
Let me tell you look at me, do not don't
engage with this.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
I'm going to say to you, I believe in I
believe in hugging. I'm you know what, I want to
spread love all the time. You know, hugs are about love.
And you know I love baby and I love my friends.
You know, I'm lucky to have so many great friends
around me. So yes, when I see you, you are
getting a drunken hug one time and you know you're
gonna like it because we're okay, and you know, and
that's that's remember that night we hold on. That's affection,
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and that's just respectful, have so much respect and love
for you. And you know when someone starts trying to
say that's not love, that's fucking bullshit. Okay, you know
what that is. That's just people want to hate it
on each other and trying to take people down. Accept
that we would accept.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
After the jay Z's Museum thing last year and you
were drunk and you came with me, I don't you
even think about it?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
It was still fresh then, was it was?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
It?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Did I then hug you or not?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
You did hug me perfect exactly.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
And by the way, the amount of the amount of incredible,
iconic athletes that have jumped on my back and given
me hugs in moments, I mean that was like somebody
just caught a picture. And by the way, I told
I was with a couple of nights ago. It was
his blue hair. That was the thing that basically it was.
You know, if you didn't have that, that blue hair,
that was what that was what killed the whole thing
was the picture. It was me, baby and CAUs and
like it was probably like one tenth of one second
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that someone caught the picture and then it got out there.
And you know, but anyway, look to me.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Just want hug whoever you want.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
But aside, I want to spread love all the time,
and people should hug each other all the time, and
people shouldn't say, oh, it's not cool if someone gave
someone a drunken hug. And what sucks is that it
actually did hurt baby for a period of time. That's
the fucked up thing. And that's the thing that I
don't like.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
What do you mean by hurt? And I would like
he was upset about.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
One bit upset about because he's tough and he's built. Yeah,
but it's just people took it. It's just a way
of like saying, oh baby ain't right, Oh he's this,
or he's it's all bullshit. It's just people. It's people
that want to hate with success. And to me, I
want everyone around me to do great. I want nothing's
gonna make me happy. Then you guys doing great, You
guys killing there everything you do. That's how we all
push each other up. And so that's how we all
learn from each other and grow together. Yeah, and so
(19:52):
I think you just got to like push aside that
that negativity.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Anything with me. When they keep bringing up the bunny happened,
they said you made him do money.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
So, by the way, let's talk about that. There's nobody
there's nobody who's been more tortured this year than me.
Talk about the diddy thing. Now, I know Meek really
really well. And I've never been to a ditty party.
He's never been in one of my parties in my life.
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But I want to get this out there. Okay, Meek,
I know that guy really really well. Okay, everyone going
around trying to say and by if he was gay,
who cares? There's not a gay bone in his body.
You guys know him like I know him. I've been
around him more than anybody. Okay for people to just
like the internet, like a friend, one of my best
friends said to me, I think Meek's gay. Now, I'm
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like why, because I've read it ten thousand times. There's
not a gay bone and that guy's body. So it's like,
why do people want to bring somebody down? Why do
people want to hate on somebody? Why someone go lie
on somebody and by talk about the bunny hops. Okay,
now you're talking about the most unathletic person in planet
Earth is Michael Ruban. I pride myself on that. And why,
by the way, why do I put the funny videos
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out making fun of myself Because I want people to know,
you know what, you could suck at sports and be
the person who's pick last all the time. You can
be the person that was terrible at school. Remember I
barely graduate high school, okay, and then you can work
your ass off and the great business. So I'm trying
to show people do what you're great at and exceling that, right. Okay.
But so now Meek says to me, we're in the Bahamas.
He's there with his family and there with my family
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four or five years ago, okay, and meets learning tennis
and I'm pretty shitty tennis. So we played tennis game. Now,
this was one pathetic athletic event, Like if you want
to see like two horrible tennis players going at it. Somehow,
it was very close. And so Meet says to me
at the beginning of the game, he says, what do
you want to bet? I'm like, what do you want
to bet it, like I'm not generally a like I
don't want to ever take money for my friends or
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bet money, but if they want to, He's like, let's
do push ups. I'm like, great, fifty push ups. Great,
He's actually, let's do bunny hops. I said, what's a
bunny hop? So it makes like you go like this
he's teaching me what any I never saw before.
Speaker 7 (22:05):
I don't know that's one of those things you.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Like, he said, we do it all the time, right,
So I didn't even know what. I've never heard of
a bunny hop before. Okay, so now now we do it.
Then when I put it out like of course, because
I was making fun of because I had no idea
what people would turn this into. I put it on
my story just making fun of him, like, yeah, I
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kicked your ass and tennis like it's fun. I actually
want something in sports, like almost a miracle. I should
have a celebration. Okay, no one says the thing that
five years later, you know, people want to Now it's
the turn. You know who we're gonna hate on this one.
So let's hate on me. Oh, Meek's gay because some
guy made up a lie. Okay, So let's hate on
him for that and just try to change the narrative
and oh, you know, white billionaire telling you know, black
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men to do bunny hops. Actually he told me to
do bunny hops. It was his bet and sorry that
he sucked in tennis, Like okay, let's keep it real.
So like that that's the short in everyone. By the way,
probably any sport other than the scheme, which is obviously
a way sport, that's the only sport I could probably
get to me. But you know, like the thing I
don't like about that is it doesn't bother me. For me,
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it bothers me that it actually when I see the
narrative of a really good friend of mine like Meek,
and people trying to you know, again, if he was gay,
which there's not one gable on everybody who cares. Number one,
let's if people want to be gay, this is twenty
twenty four, Who the fuck cares? Okay, number two, there's
not a gay blee on his body, So like, why
do people want to lie about that? Why do people
want to change a narrative of bet he maybe me
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to try to hurt him? Like that is the one
thing I've learned about you know. Look, I'm just being
blunt because it's me. So the one thing I've learned
about black culture that I don't like is that black
hate on.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Hate speaking that more. I heard you say that early
and I wanted you to expound on that. You said
you don't like to see black people tearing down other
black people.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, it's horrible, like like it's horrible, like what Like
I want to support every Look you got two you
guys know me pretty well. Anything I can help with,
I'm always there. I always want to be helpful. I
feel lucky and fortunate to do what I do every
day it be is you know, whatever success I've had,
I feel blessed to do that, and I want to
give back in every way I can, you know, in
business and in charitable things. I'm always trying to be helpful,
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Like why does someone want to bring somebody else down?
Like's try to build everybody up, like, you know, I'd
be more excited if, you know, if I'd be more
excited to see one of my friends do something that's
ninety nine percent less meaningful to me, but it would
be really meaningful to them because I want them to
do great. I want everyone around me to do great.
I don't like watching you know, there's a little bit
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and you tell me, you guys, correct me if you
think I'm wrong. I think there's a little bit of
a black culture of like it's black hate on Hate's
like that black judge that me had that hated on
him and want to put in go extra hard on him. Okay,
it's like I like, it's what people always say to me.
It's like black hate on hate. So I think it's terrible.
I think it's something that it's I think it's culturally wrong.
And I'm probably get killed for saying this because you know,
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you're you know, I'm glad.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
You're saying it openly. If this is the conversations that
are I have it.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
All the time that yeah, I want to hear this.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Yeah. So I think it's wrong. I think, like, why
do you not want to build everyone up around you?
Why do you not want everyone around you to do great?
The best way for everyone to do great is to
push each other up. Okay, I'm always pushing everyone around me.
It's why I spend, you know, a quarter of my
days helping other people because I want them to do great.
And by the way, it's why people always If you
think about this, no one ever came at me before
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last year. Okay, last year we had the bunny hops
you brought up, you brought up the right okay, which
you're each completely made up. None of these things had
any real you know, No, they weren't real. They were
made up to hurt people. Okay, Yet everyone still can't
comes out for me because they're real, authentic relationships, and
I want to help everyone in everywhere I can. So
(25:47):
to me, if I could say one thing, Let's everyone
go out with a positive energy. You try to make
everyone do great around us and build people up. Let's
not try to bring people down. You don't. You don't
do better by taking your competition down. You do better
by pushing everyone up together. You want all the wind
behind your back.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
So when you see other when you see black people
tearing other black people down, in your mind, you'd be like,
I would never do business with that person because of
how they treat their own people.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Well, I don't see. I I don't really see the
people I'm around tearing people down. What I see is
the conversations that we have about people tearing you know,
trying to tear them down. And I think, like, you know,
even if a lot, Meek doesn't bring it up a lot,
but I'll bring up to me and be like, like,
(26:29):
look when you grow up the way Meek did you
up the way Baby did it? Like, these guys are tough. Okay,
you know you grow up. You didn't even think you
were going to make it to the age you are today.
You know, you're coming out of a pretty violent background.
You know, I think you feel fortunate, but I think
the reality is like they're aware that, you know, there's
a lot of hate that comes with their success, even
(26:49):
if like someone's trying to get out, I grew up
in a ruthless environment, and you know, I don't you know,
I'm trying to improve the people that are around me.
It's like then the people that you know you grew
up with their they want they want to take you
down because you don't have the same people around you.
How about you want to grow and you expand And
it doesn't mean you don't want to help the people.
Meet does so much for his community, you know, a
completely different situation, but Baby does so much for his community.
(27:09):
Like so I just that whole thing really does bother
me because I think it's wrong, and I think it's
culturally hurting the outcome of the black community. I think
it would be much better if everyone trying to push
each other upla community. Let let's let's keep it. Look, look,
I'm not I'm Jewish, I'm not remotely real, I'm not
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remotely religious. Okay, it's just who I have never have been. Okay,
But the hate toward Jewish people, now, it's horrible and
it's it does not affecting it. I feel more bad
for like my daughter, you know, you see, like you know,
she's going to USC next year, and like you have
you know, you have situations where people can't even get
into their college because they're you know, they you know,
Cornell and New York City in New York City, Columbia.
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New York City literally couldn't even control and make it
safe for Jewish students to be there. Like, like, why
is this good? This is horrible? Like we all want
to bring people together. By the way, why don't I
want to do finags Fest because I want to bring
tens of thousand sports fans together. Why is sports great
because it brings community together? Hate is bad. Any type
of hate sucks. It's by my dear friend Robert Craft
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started the Blue Square to eliminate hate. Like if you'd say,
in life, if we could just like get people to
always support each other, get rid of hate, like that's
you know, why is this all this killing all the time.
It's from hate.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
And so if you have a lot of conversations about
it and the Jewish community, do you guys support each
other more?
Speaker 5 (28:29):
Do you see more support?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I think in most communities other than you know, I
think in most communities people are pretty to support, like
like I support everyone around me. I don't care, you know, black, white, purple, yellow, gay,
I don't care, like I'm gonna support everyone around me.
That's that's why I've aways been built to push everybody up,
to push everyone around me. I think that's generally great
(28:53):
for me. You know, I think most communities do it that, right.
I mean, you tell me, do you think I'm right
or wrong about you? Be honest?
Speaker 6 (29:00):
I mean, listen, it's uncomfortable to hear you say it
as a Jewish man, right, But I can't say that
you're wrong.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
That's why.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
But one thing I always say is that when I'm
talking about like what we call uncle Tom's I always say,
all of these Uncle Tom, black men think white people
like that, and they don't.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
They think that people that are in.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
White people are Jewish people, white people Jewish whoever, in
positions of power, they think that they like to sell
outs amongst us, and they don't. They don't like to
see a black person selling out another black person.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
I say that all the time. Right, So, I was
going to ask you about.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
A There's a guy named sid Rosenberg who called Vice
President Kamala Harris's husband a bad Jew. So when you
hear language like that, is that the same as is
that self hate amongst Jewish people.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
I don't know any of the background to it. I
don't even know her husband was Jewish. He just told me.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
But you've heard that term before, though. You've heard somebody
called somebody a bad.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Jew and people. People have told me I'm a bad
Jew and that like that. People tell me I'm not
doing enough for the Jewish community. You know, people say
to me, you do so much for the black community.
You start the reform, aligned just spend so much money,
time and energy to you know, fix the probation parole system.
Why have you done more for the Jewish community. You know,
for me, I never I was always great at giving
money away. I never did the work. And then when obviously,
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and you guys know the story so well, when you know,
Meek went to prison for not committing a crime, and
I'm sitting in that courtroom and watching what was a
really close friend of mine, you know, go to get
sent to two to four years prison for popping and
wheeling on a motorcycle. It like, that was the most
out of control I ever felt in my life, because
I'm used to in business being able to control my
own destiny. And I think that's when my whole perspective changed.
(30:36):
I like really having to not just give money, but
really make a difference. And I think that's when you know,
once you got out, we started the Reform Alliance. Now
we have this giant Make a Wish partnership which everyone's
so excited about, where we do every sports wish. We
helped to make it better and crazy, to get the
athletes really involved, to make the wishes great for the kids,
and like we like, we love giving back. I get
told them a bad joo all the time because like, hey,
people say, you've only posted ten times about what's going
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on but to me do things that are authentic. I
got so emotionally involved in fixing probation and parole once
I saw how fucked up the system was, and so
I'm honored to do that. You also can't do all
things to all people. Make a Wish the way I
got sucked into it, which was actually amazing. I really
didn't like everyone knows of make a Wish, but I
didn't know how it worked. And a kid had a
(31:19):
wish to do something of the Sixers, and he went
to sit courtside of the Sixers, and so I set
up on the court side of the Sixers and we
were playing the Lando Magical like three or four years ago.
Three years ago, I said to the kid, look, you know,
after he beat the Magic, when I'm bringing in the
locker room to meet jo all and meet James, meet everybody.
And the Magic at that point sucked. They were like
one of the worst teams in the NBA, and of
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course we lost to the Magic. It was really embarrassing.
So I went in the locker room. I said to
Joe and James, I said, hey, I'm bringing this kid
from Make a Wish into the locker room. And they said,
like we just lost against the Magic. Don't bring a
fucking person in the locker room, I said, Now I'm
bringing them anyway. Of course I didn't listen. I bought
this kid in the locker room. The team probably spent
forty five minutes with this kid, and literally that night
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Joe hit me, James hit me, Tobias, Harris hit me, MAXI.
But they're all like, yo, that that puts everything in perspective,
Like seeing this kid listening to his story, you know,
like man, that that that really like, thank you for
doing that. We then called the Serial of Making Wish
and said we want to be the exclusive person to
do all of your sports wishes. We love stuff like that,
so again, for me, you have to do things that
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are authentic, Like we can't do a lot of things,
but like you know, when I get caught a bad jo,
does it bother me a little bit? Yes, because I
think I'm doing everything that's comfortable for me. But I
can also fight every fight. Like we spend a lot
of time on probation for all we form, we spend
a lot of time on Make a Wish. And you know,
I work seventeen hours a day at Fanatics, which is
you know my part time job.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Do you guys own into seventy six is at old?
Do you miss that job?
Speaker 1 (32:46):
No? I'll tell you why. I think when I bought,
when we did the Sixers Day on twenty eleven, I
was in a different part of my life and I
think Fanatics was way less established, and I think we
were a much smaller company. It really got. It went
from in the early days helping the growth of Fanatics
and helping it was kind of like a little bit
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of a business development platform. And then I learned so
much from the Sixers and I was able to really
help in a meaningful way to as Fanatics got a
lot bigger. Now we have thousands of deals with individual
athletes which are prohibited by all the leagues, went out
in the betting business, which is prohibited to take bets
on your own team. It was really in the way
of Fanatics growth, and so selling the stake and the
Sixers allowed me to just take finets to the next level.
(33:30):
And on top of that, I'll tell you, I don't
think there could be a bigger opportunity for me in
my life when I look at where Fanatics is today
and I feel like I'm just getting started with it,
and I look at like I just watched the Nike
movie like a year ago Nike era, and you look
at that and you're like, he's eighty seven today. Okay,
I'm gonna do this for the rest of my life.
Like my opportunity is massive, and I have so much
gratification and satisfaction of working around you know, hundreds of
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millions of incredible sports fans and incredible athletes, and you know,
to get to spend time with guys, like you said,
you just it's such a fun job. I don't want
anything to be in the way of it. Also will
tell you that my relationships with everyone is so much
cleaner now because I think before I felt like guys
where I was friends with would still look at me
a little bit different, like you know, Book or Jason
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Tatum or they. When I owned the Sixers, I felt
like there was just always a little bit, hey, it's
going to the Sixers guy. Now it's kind of like
everyone knows I'm just their guy, and you know, we
have an authentic relationship and so and by the way,
we do a lot of business. A lot of these
guys do you know their significant partners, So it really
cleaned up the relationship.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Does it ever?
Speaker 7 (34:32):
Does it ever get to you when people say stuff
like because you seem like such a nice guy, that
like why are all these artists fling into this white guy?
Or like why do they want to support this white guy?
Like especially because they show up for you so much.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, so I don't. I didn't even know that narrative
till about a year ago. So I like I i'd
say in the the last year was an adjustment for
me because I went from I'd say up until a
year ago, it was all love to me all the time,
and then the white party took on a life of
its own. For that, it's not a lot bigger. We
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got in multiple businesses and so then you had, you know,
someone start that narrative on the bunny hups. You get
someone start the narrative on the baby with the hugs,
And so then I started asking questions because I was
oblivious to it all okay, and people people told me
that narrative is out there. So I think what I
always want to do is be super aware and make
sure that I'm always doing so much for everybody to
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make sure that like they feel like the relationship is
great for them, And so I'd say I'm more sensitive
to make sure that no one I don't want to
ever do anything with somebody that's not great for them.
I'd say I'm more sensitive to make sure I'm doing
that today. Like someone just told me something a couple
of weeks ago, like, hey, one person who doesn't like
me because they don't get invited to the White Party
is telling people, well, all these people perform for Michael.
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So I'm making sure, like, hey, I don't want you
to perform unless you really want to perform. And by
the way, I'm trying to get and I'm always trying
to help you. There's so many businesses if you think
about it, like, look at Jay Z. He's an investor
in for Now. We own Fanatic Sports book together. We
own Mitchell Nest together.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
You know.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Look at Travis, we're doing the collapse together. Look at
met Keeps an investor in Lids. By the way, makes
single best investment in his life. You know, Hope, i'mon't
get in trouble for saying this, but it put two
hundred thousand dollars in the Lids and got eight million
dollars back. Wow.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Okay, go ahead, meet, shout out to meat.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yeah. So so like I always want my friends to
do great and I'm always working to do things that
are great for my friends. So does it bother me? Look,
I am the most thick skinned individual you'll meet. I mean,
I'm the most self deprecating person. I love to make
fun of myself, Like when I put out the baseball
thing and show how un coordinated im. Everyone makes fun
of me. I think it's funny. Does it hurt me
a little bit if it's hurting somebody else, yes, that's
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someone wherever I think, like you know, if something is
I want everything I do to be great for people.
I don't ever want to do anything but help people.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
I read someone that you were selling you were trying
to sell some mistake in fanatics too.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Completely made up.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
That wasn't true.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Okay, bye bye, Way. It's crazy now that I've learned
about and look, you guys deal with this because when
you get more well known, people just make nowadays, how
many times has anyone ever say anything got you? It's
completely unrue. So so somebody reaches out and says, hey,
we heard that you turned off your IPO, that you
were going to go public and you're not not going public,
and also that you're selling a billion dollars in your company.
(37:11):
So we've never even had a discussion about going public.
Will we eventually go public? Most likely? Have we had
one discussion with one bank about it? Not one okay,
And by the way, we told him, we've had no
discussions about going public. We've had no discussions about selling
you know, a billion dollars. It's just completely made up,
you know, they said, but you just did the White
Party's great clipait, we're running the story anyway. We got
a source.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Wow, wow, you know, a shout out.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
To the New York Post, who I generally love. They
just ran the story.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Yes, completely made up.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
One more thing I want to talk to you about.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Speak to us about the role Governor Shapiro played, uh
just just in Pennsylvania. Like I love all of the
things that he's doing with probation reform and criminal justice reform,
but a lot of that started because you when he
was a g got him on the meat case.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
I like Governor Shapiro, so I love so First of all,
I hate politics. I don't every want to be involved
in politics. So I think it's just bad. Okay, because
generally politics can't get anything done and people just fight
over everything, So I generally try to stay away from politics.
That's it. I love jos Shapiro. Okay. Josh Shapiro I
met when he was the county commissioner of the county
I live in. He was trying to get to marriage,
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trying to avoid him like the play, because I don't
want to be about anyone in politics, and he's I think.
I actually like wrote like a I don't know a
twenty five thousand dollars donation to not have to meet
with him, okay. And then he asked my chief of
staff could he have a meeting in my office one day?
And he walked by me in the hallway and like
start having a conversation like, Oh, this guy's actually really smart,
and so I've known him for a long time. Josh
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gets one hundred percent of the credit. I called Josh
the day when Meek got sentenced to two to four
years in prison in November I think it was twelve
to twenty seventeen. I called the governor Pennsylvania. He was
Attorney General of Pennsylvania and the mayor of Philadelphia. I
thought this would be easy by the way, getting a
black person out of jail that is shit is not easy.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Yeah, tells the other things they don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Maybe my delivery wasn't good, But so I called him
like guys, like he didn't do anything, he popped a
wheel in a motorcycle, like you gotta gotta let him out,
like Governor's like, well, I don't have the rights to
let him out. The ten generals, like Josh originally said
to me, don't get involved in this. This will be
bad for you. And I said, Josh, I love you.
You're wrong. Okay. And by the way, if you go
back to November of twenty seventeen, every single person I
knew said, don't get involved in supporting me. The only
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people that stood up for Froim was Jay and Dez
and me. Everyone else said stay the fuck away from
the situation, will be and bye. Sixers Fans were canceling
season tickets because of this. Okay, I was getting destroyed.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Because it seemed like online like the support was so big.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Not in the first month or two. What happened was
we hired like thirty investigators who actually were not found
out that the judges crooked. Okay, that actually the people
that arrested him. Originally, he used to always say to me,
Meek would always say to me, Michael, if a black
man points a gun at a police officer, that's called suicide, okay.
And I never thought about it because he said it
to me, like he always wanted to prove to me
that he never pointed the gun of people. I'm like, Meek,
(40:08):
I don't like, I don't give a shit what you
did when you were nineteen years old. Who cares. You're
a different person. And so anyway, we hired the investigators.
Investigators proved the first cop came for and said, no,
he never pointed the gun. The whole thing's a lie.
We were stealing drug dealers money. It was like we
were like training day. This cop told us, we said
we sided f Davi. He said yes, that's ultimately how
the case got overturned. So Josh then turned and said, Michael,
(40:30):
you were right, get him out of prison. But when
you get him out of prison, you have to make
this about something much more than Meek. So Josh gave
us the original idea to start the reformalized. It didn't
come from me, didn't come from Jay, didn't come a
round craft didn't come from me. It came from Josh Shapiro. Okay, Now,
Josh said, you you got to fix the probation post system.
That's how we got the idea. And then obviously you
know you're starting on a home plate when you start
something with jay Z, Desire, Meek, Robert Kraft, myself. I mean,
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it's a pretty good group of people to start something with.
So it was very funded and you know, a lot
of strong personalities. Watching Josh's development has been amazing for me.
I mean, watching him go from county commissioner to attorney
general to governor. I think in Pennsylvania, I'm told he
has like the highest note like he has which I
don't think you get right, which you don't get that
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politics you're lucky to get, you know, fifty one percent right.
So he's incredibly I think supported in Pennsylvania. I think
he's really capable. I mean, I'm almost relieved that they
didn't pick him for VP because I'll have nothing to
do with this election now, and had it been him,
it's my guy, I would have had to support it
in a meaningful way just because of my strong personal fill.
Speaker 6 (41:34):
I was disappointed at first that he didn't get picked
at the VP, but Tim Wall seems solid.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Yeah, you know, and look a lot of people say
he didn't get picked as he was Jewish, and I
think that's you know, that's I think, if that's really
the reason that sucks. But you know what that means,
we all just got to bring people together. Like, you know,
you guys have this amazing show. You know, I think
one of the things you guys can do with the
show is bring people together. Okay, I think that's one
of my responsibilities. Like, you know, look, I do have
you know, I suck at a lot of things. I'm
a decent leader, so I should help bring people together.
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So you know, to me, you know, I think, you know, I.
Speaker 6 (42:02):
Don't think he wanted to get the gig. I think
he feels like his job is not done in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Well, I talked to him a couple of nights before
I was I was in Europe and I had had
a long conversation with him and I knew he was
I think he's a very he believes he'll do the
right thing for his country, and he loves what he's
doing in Pennsylvania. But if if the world, if the
country decided that he was the right person. I think
he would have been comfortable to step up and do that.
(42:27):
But I think he's incredibly you know, excited about what
he's going to do in Pennsylvania. And you know, for me,
you know, I just have so much respect for him,
even though, again I'll say this one hundred times, I
hate politics.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
So you think he didn't get it to he was Jewish.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
I mean, it's what people say. It's what people are
saying to me. He didn't say that to me. I like, again,
I don't follow this stuff, Like I'm not like you know,
I'm someone who's born Jewish. I'm just not religious. I'm
not embarrassed with that either. Like you know, my sister's
actually a canter in the Jewish religions. You have me,
you know, just cancer, she's like she sings on stage
(43:00):
so and she's very religious. I'm not religious at all.
But what I like to do is, like again, learn
from everybody around me. You know, I have heard that
narrative a lot, and like I hate this. You know,
we should get rid of all self hated all cultures,
should bring everyone together, like we want the whole, Like
let's flourish, like America's Look, I think America is the
breatest country in the fucking planet. Okay, and so we're
(43:20):
all blessed to be here. We have so much opportunity.
Did you ever dream that you'd be doing this twenty
years ago? I mean, okay, well you're doing amazing. You
guys are all doing it, and you guys are gonna
keep doing more amazing.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
And that's right.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
When I came on the show with you on comedy section,
it was like, this guy's built to do this, and
like it's just so like we're also lucky in what
we do and we just got to bring everyone with us.
Speaker 4 (43:38):
I agree with optimism, that's right.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Always. By the way, I wake up like that, go
to bed like that, never drink a sip of coffee
in my life.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Well, this weekend fanatics fanatics fests Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
Speaker 5 (43:50):
What are the times, what are the prices? How can
people buy tickets?
Speaker 1 (43:53):
You go to Finace Fest site, general mission tickets fifty bucks,
that's what most people buy. And come from open to
clothes and just have the time of your life. There's
gonna be so many, so many fun things. Two hundred
great athletes, so many great stunts, you know, all the
leagues activations. I want to see you, you guys. Who's coming?
You guys coming?
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Am I gonna be here this weekend.
Speaker 5 (44:10):
I won't be this set. I'm gonna trying to bring
my Sunday on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
I might pull up one day.
Speaker 4 (44:17):
Any sports person, but coming.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
We love that, you guys.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
We love that you guys.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
Yous gonna be a bar there like the White.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Party forty forty popped up in the mid it, I'm going,
okay you we'll get the three of you guys set
for that anxiety.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
We're going come on, everybody, put your hands in. We're
going let's go.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Come on.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
No so like people?
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Yeah, I mean he actually.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Does like people. He just tries to talk ship. He
does like you do what he does?
Speaker 5 (44:44):
You know he does?
Speaker 3 (44:45):
I do.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
I couldn't do what he does if he didn't.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
Like thirteen hours long ago, you never answered that one.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
That one is nine thirty a m. Till seven pm.
So it's actually like halftime. Okay, White Part is a
much bigger test to be resilience. But did we do
this three days we did the pre party. I want
you guys that I'm dropping out. Hold on, what are
you wearing? I need you to come in the uniform.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
Let's go, baby, I'm wearing whatever keeps you from hugging
me from the back. Okay, let's go, let's go.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
It is not uncomfortable. Oh come on, let's go.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
I had the chair protection.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
The consum look like hurt, Michael rub and y'all me.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
Okay, let's give it.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
You go.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
What is it the deep?
Speaker 1 (45:33):
E's comfortable yourself?
Speaker 4 (45:37):
Yeah, I know that's right.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
All right.
Speaker 5 (45:39):
We just had a three up there, Michael Robins, what
you did? It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 5 (45:47):
The Breakfast Club
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The Breakfast Club Morning everybody is DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne,
the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Jess Urlaris is
on maternity leave, so we got Laura LaRosa filling in.
And we got a special guest in the building, guy
the founder and CEO of Fanatics, and he is doing
a Fanatic Fest this weekend at the Jacob Javid Center
this weekend, Saturday and Sunday. Your favorite athletes, artists, celebrities
(00:27):
will be in the building. You can get things autographed.
They will be selling merch and it's perfect because I'm
doing My Call show this weekend, so there's a lot
of things to do. They can go to your My
Call show, your Fanatic fests. But ladies and gentlemen, Michael Rubin, welcome,
Glad to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
How you feeling always love being here, feeling great change?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
You did not sound like that? Is that you're announcer voice.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Glad to be here?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Let's call.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I forgot trying to get like an overnight job with
you guys here. Maybe you guys can.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
It's a fight, Okay, well we could get a job here.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
You think I come to you to the four am.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
We can't afford a Mike Ruban like free labor.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Oh now now you're talking. Now you said I forgot someone?
Did I forget?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
It's actually Friday Saturday and side Friday Saturday and side.
What do you is the car show Big on Fridays
Saturday Saturday. Okay, I thought you just I thought you
were trying to kill off competition.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, Friday Saturday.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Now we're pumped for this week. And this is really exciting.
You know, for me, New York's my favorite city in
the world to kind of do something that's never been done.
There's really not a sports festival anywhere in the world,
and you have this. When we think about this, you
have so many other festivals. You have Comic Com which
takes over in New York City gets a quarter of a
million people. You've got Complex Com, which I'm going to
go to in November, and Vegas. You've got you know,
(01:37):
all the music festivals. You've got south By Southwest and
I don't know why no one's ever done this. In sports,
you've got the trading card shows, which they have a
thousand of in the country. But I went to a
trading card show. There's a big trading card show called
the National which gets one hundred and fifty thousand people.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Is that one in Atlantic City?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
It was in Atlantic City a couple of years ago.
It was in Cleveland a few weeks ago. So change
the cities each year, and you walk in there, You're like,
this is nuts. There's one hundred and fifty thousand people.
But it looks like when I went to high school.
So it hasn't changed since like the nineties. And so
I basically went to comic kind of New York City
and said, we got to do the same We gotta
do the same thing for sports. So it's gonna be
our first time doing it. Javits. This weekend, we're gonna
(02:14):
have like two hundred of the best athletes, celebrities, artists
coming through all the leagues are coming. I mean, you
got Tom Brady's gonna be throwing footballs to kids for
an hour on Friday. Kadi and Ant with their Olympic
medals coming in Saturday, they're gonna be playing basketball with kids,
football with kids. You've got I actually last night said
this is nuts. I actually have a bunch of NBA
(02:35):
players call me and said, hey, can I play basketball?
Can I play football? With kids? Like normally you're trying
to get people to come do these things. And we
got the best streamers in the world coming, and we've
got so many the big stre We've got Adi and
Ross come, and Druski come in Sketch coming. We're gonna
announce a few really big additional streamers that are coming.
So like, to me, just to bring everyone together is.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Awesome exactly though, Like what is it.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
It's just a giant sports festival, okay, elebrating sports. Yeah,
it's just it's for me. It's like, what would you
want every sports fan to dream of doing if they
could just not be the actual sports event and come.
So you've got like NFL will be there, and you can,
you know, see all the Super Bowl rings since they've
had a Super Bowl, all the Lombardi trophies.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I see Tom Brady, Eli and Peyton. Is that true?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah? Wow? Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (03:18):
How would that work?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Because IVE seen him sign an autograph, so you can
buy an autograph signed jersey there or they just win jerseys.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
So I think for Eli and Peyton you can sign
up to either get your picture with them and you
can pay to get your picture with them or an autograph.
Tom's just coming in. Tom's gonna be interviewed by Steven A.
Smith on the main stage. Then he's gonna be doing
football with kids. He'll be I think he actually wants
to walk around and look at trading cards because he's
will into trading cards. So he'll be there all day Friday.
(03:46):
I'm sure you guys know we're popping up for forty forty.
I expect to see you guys there this weekend. Jay's
gonna be hosting it all weekend, which is gonna be nuts.
And you know, Jay called me and said, look, I
love forty forty. I want to do something special. You know,
why don't we set this up for people that are
reportant to people. You know, the athletes and celebrities are
coming through to support us, our most important gamblers. I
think you guys know Jay and Dez on part of
(04:06):
our gambling business, and so you know, it's kind of
you think about having like Jay Z hosting forty forty,
Travis Scott, Quavo, a bunch of other artists that you
guys you know, all spent a lot of time with,
but then having you know, guys like Brady and Peyton
and Elis of the football players having k D and
and and Ai and Julius. I mean, yeah, he's coming.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
Mike Tyson, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
And Jake Paul they're doing that. I can't wait for that.
I was just with Jake at the Olympics. I could
tell you if he looked like he looked at the
Olympics walking out of the bar we walked out of
at five am in the morning. You know, I don't know.
I could be worried for him, but I mean I
called to make fun of him. Yes, I said, you
know that that did not look good.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Oh I thought he got Mike Tyson.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
No, no, no, I no when I was no, no,
he walked out. There was very funny videos of him
online stumbling out of yeah. No, no, no, he wasn't faking.
He he definitely wasn't faking. He's a sloppy.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Drunk, gotcha. Oh he's gonna get knocked out then.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, Well, no, I don't.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I just I think he's not drinking before his fight. Yeah,
to Halkkan's gonna be there, by the way, Cody Roase
is going to be there. Ray Mysterio is going to
be there. I've had a couple, you know, a couple
I think you know, a couple of the artists, like Yo,
Ray Mysterious. We love Ray Mysterious. So like you know,
it's a we have twenty five wrestlers coming. We got
the UFC champ coming, you know, the Alex Peira, there's
(05:28):
Holly Holmes coming. I mean it's in every sport. We've
got great people coming. But then the league activations are
also amazing, like just you know, you know, NBA set
up there to have different skills competitions, and I've always
got skills competitions hockey, soccer. I think, by the way, punching,
how hard can you punch the UFC bag? How can
(05:48):
you slap? So it's it's gonna be everything.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Thank you to fanatics too.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
You know, I do my back to school drive in
my hometown amongst corner every weekend. I don't even know
if you've noticed, but Fanatics donated a bunch of backpacks.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I didn't know that. But whatever you guys need, were
always there for you, gus, because you guys are great
friends of families.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
So well, they did it specific to like Carolina teams,
so like the game cocks and the hornets and yeah,
so thank you.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I love that absolutely, I love that. Yeah, I got
to tell you who did it. I don't remember who
did it. I'll tell you. You can get it.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
They just know you guys need something absolutely.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Now, how does this difference from the White Party?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Michael Rumy, So, look.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
You're not invited to the White Party, but you invited
into this.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Everything to you guys who generally invited everything. The one
thing I'll say is like, look, I love bringing people
together and that comes from the way I learned. And
the thing that people don't get about me because everyone
thinks I'm being self deprecating, but actually being serious. Like
when you got a seven eighty combined on your SATs,
you barely made out of high school, you went to
college for part of a semester, and you haven't read
(06:46):
a full books. And I've read a book since ninth grade.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
That's nothing to brag about, okay, but it's.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Pretty seven eight and sts pretty bad is pretty combined
out of sixteen hundred.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Not the best of learning.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
And so the way I learn is from people around me.
So I'm much better to ask you questions, to ask
you questions, ask you questions, and so I love bringing
people from different backgrounds together so we can all learn
from each other. And that's the way. That's the way
I've always learned. I've always like asked questions, not been
afraid to ask whatever's on my mind. And so I
think when I started the White Party, it was really
about how do I know, take this really diverse group
(07:23):
of friends, Like I have friends go from Robert craft
UNEs the New doing the Patriots, to Travis Scott to
you know, to meet to you know, commissioner of a
sport to a CEO of Airbnb or the CEO of Uber.
So it's like bringing all these people together and I
love doing that. The thing with fanatics pest it says,
how do you create this incredible sports gathering? And you
don't have that other than actual games. And I think
(07:46):
there's so many things that you can do at a
Super Bowl or a MLB All Star Game or an
NBL Star Game for that each sport, but no one
brings it all together. And then generally it's pretty hard
to get the athletes, the artists, the you know, players
to come through and really support. So we try to
do a bunch of special things, like you know, Travis
Scott's launching cactus Jack exclusive trading cards at fanatics Fest
(08:10):
on Saturday. Those are going to be and those cards.
People are going crazy for those cards. I've never had
more people hit me up and say, Yo, how do
I get those cactus Jack you know, m willb trading
cards that you're launching at fanatics Fest. So there's a
lot of exclusive products as well. So it's really trying
to just create lots of things for everybody. My goal
the test of this like if we succeed, Okay, we'll
(08:30):
be at the end of the show. Do people do
the tens of thousands of fans that came say we
love being there, like this was awesome. Do the talent
that came through say, hey, this actually wasn't something that
like we felt like we were Fortunately we love doing
it and that right now I'm feeling because people keep
hitting me up and say how can I get involved?
How can I do more? And then do we take
(08:50):
over social? I want, like the way the White Party
takes over social. I want this to be Fanatics Fest
needs to own the weekend. Thank god, you know, great
Olympics outcome that's finished. Now I got a bunch of
people and the Olympics coming. Just heard a lot of
the womans soccer team is going to be showing up
as well, which is great, a lot of gold medals.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
It's definitely going to dominate socials absolutely.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
And when you have all of these different groups of
people from you know, different industries, like everybody's gonna chatting about.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
That, and we got crazy stuff. Like the thing I'm
most excited about last night I was. I was up
till two am with my team going through each and
every stunt, Like we got stunts every hour, like one
of the cool things. When I went to this the
show that used to be in Atlantic City was in
Atlantic City, that was in Cleveland a few weeks ago,
I saw two guys in full Oakland A's uniforms and
I called my guys up and like, yo, everyone dresses
(09:34):
for Comic Con. How do we get everyone to addressed
for Fanatics Fest? And so literally I just went out
and said, look, anyone who comes in a full team
uniform or a super fan uniform, We're going to take
the best dressed person each hour on hour and bring
them back to meet one of their you know, trillio. Yeah.
So someone comes into Tom Brady outfit and they've got
the do you know, the helmet in the jersey and
(09:54):
the pads and hands and everything where they come into
crazy Patriots. We may bring them back to be Tommy.
Someone call is Peyton Manning Altge. Yeah, so what ten
people do that the best trast each hour? Okay, so
we're gonna do It's it's basically twenty five thirty people
for the weekend and we got two hundred athletes there,
so it can be easy for us to and by
the way, if we see crazy stuff, maybe we do
(10:14):
more than one an hour. So it's just like creating
those experience. Think about if you're a you know, you're
a diehard Julie Serving fan and you just Julie Served
as the press you looked up to you coming to
full Julie Serving outfit and were bringing back to meet
doctor j I mean how close that are allers? He's
playing basketball kids on Sunday. So we want to make
sure we just create incredible experiences that nobody else.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
There's a sports combine.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yeah, well, I mean well, because you've got each league
is there. So you've got the NFL, the NBA, NHL,
ms WWE, UFC millb all there with activation, So you
really be like like, I know a lot of the
streamers are coming through and I people talking a lot
that ship right now. But who's gonna beat who in
different competitions right now? I got money on Quavo say
(11:00):
now that he's a streamer, I got my he's very athletics.
He wins a lot of athletic competitions. I got. I
know who who. I got a lot of people saying things,
it's gonna be fun, is I think? I told Aiden
ROSSI is gonna take a lot of abuse from a
lot of people this weekend when he told me he
was gonna come and show up strong in sports. So
it's gonna be fun to see who shows strong and
who's uh who has my athletics.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
It was not a real combine like people people canna
be doing outstaring, No, but people are gonna be doing.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
The forty yard day like I mean, you know you
have old slow guys like me, and then you're gonna
have super fast you know streamers that are tearing it
up in the So there's gonna be a lot of
competitions there.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
How long is the fest? Because I know the white
party is thirteen hours.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
So I specialized along of it. Yeah, the White Party
is a test of seeing what you're made of. And
I'll tell you we drank the.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
Full third people drink the four thirteen hours definitely Wow.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
So the White Party starts at five pm and it
ended at six am this year, and there were probably
three hundred people when it ended, and there's only there
was less than fo hundred people at the total party.
So that means most people can good resilience. I'd say
you trained for it. The funny thing is like what
Michael Parsons calls me, says like, yo, man, I'm training
for this. I'm getting into training. Like you know, people
(12:09):
call and saying, I gotta gotta build my durance something.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
No reason to be at a party for thirteen You know.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
What people would say. People would say they have such
a great time. There's so many great people saying. Remember
it's four different parties within the parties, so you start
with you know, cocktails, and there's really a lot of
good I think business things that come from that. You
know so many you know, when you have CEOs of
some of the best consumer companies together with you know,
best artists, best athletes together with just iconic business people.
(12:36):
Like a lot of things come from that. We've also
made created a lot of relationships out of there too,
a lot of marriages, relationships.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
I heard with Donovan Mitchell and Coco Jones.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I know, I know, I know Mobamba met his I
think now wife there, yes, yeah, And and you know,
I keep I read the rumors of what I see
out there, people who met at the right place. So
I love that. But do you even more the business
relationships that come out of there? And and to me,
there's so many great relationships that have started and created there,
and that to me is like the test of are
(13:10):
we doing well? We're helping people get to know each other,
are great business outcomes coming for them? And I love
doing that. You see that. Look, you guys have all
been to my Super Bowl party. You see that there
were a lot of you know, great business opportunities come
from that as well?
Speaker 7 (13:22):
Do you because the business relationships come out of it's
good vibes. But like when you see stuff online like
Drake was there this year and everybody was like, oh
they weren't allowed to play, not like us, Like does
that stuff bother you?
Speaker 4 (13:31):
And was that even true.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
It was true, and and and look for me, Look,
I'm always you know, I just don't think, you know,
Drake's my friend for a long time. I'm not gonna
invite him and then have you know, you know, he's look,
he's obviously going through he's going through a little bit
of battle right now. I'm not going to have him
come there and and and.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
And being battle more battle.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
I just didn't think it was appropriate. So I just
said a notice. I said, hey, let's not play you know,
anyone's music. That's feudy when anyone's there. I mean, look,
you gotta but that was a you decision. It wasn't
like Drake was like no players of me decisions. It
was the proper thing. I will I will tell you
the day before we had a small barbecue for a
few hours that was supposed to be thirty people, turned
into two hundred people and went for about ten hours.
The night before that was the pre game to the
(14:14):
to the White Party, and they turned the music on
just like in my house, like it was. They put
rap caviar and not like Us came on. It was
like in the middle of not like us, I'm like,
get that off, get that Drake was there. He was
pulling up super Yeah. It wasn't I throw me under
(14:37):
the bus like that.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Did you see the memes of your pictures with Drake
or you and Drake, and everybody's like, Drake looks so sad.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
He had a by the way, he had a great time.
Look you got if there's one thing someone just said
something to me on social media, you gotta be built
for social media. You gotta be tough, you gotta take
ship from people. I actually one of the those people
don't understand about my personal I actually liked the abuse.
I actually like it doesn't bother me at all. You know, Look,
Drake is an iconic artist that we all have tremendous
(15:03):
respect for. You know, obviously you can't what I said
to Drake, and I really believe this is this is
a great test for him, Like you can't get to
where he's got to and not have people coming for you.
I know, you know, I sleep with one eye open.
I know right now. You know, we're in three businesses.
People coming for me in every business every day, and
that's part of you know, which success comes, you know,
(15:23):
more competition, more hatred, and you know, the best people
show why they're the best and if you're not the best,
to crack and you fall apart. So I think this
is a great test for him. I think you know,
he's going to come out with, you know, lots of
incredible music, and I think people right, I think people
are going to say, that's why Drake is Drake. So
I like that test for him.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
I think social media bothers you a little bit because
one thing I did notice from the White party, I
didn't see any hugs.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
There was no hugs from the best, So no.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
One was a bigger hugger than me. I will say
I pay attention to everything, and I decided people right
or wrong. I think that was pathetic. I think it
was a joke a little baby. Yeah. Look, by the way,
you know what I hate when watching a black person
trying to take a black person down. That's fucked up. Okay,
let's keep it real. Okay, Baby is one of the
best human beings in the planet. There's not a person
(16:12):
who will always do more for his community, who's a
great human being who works his ass off. And here's
what happened with Baby. Baby did great and then people
came for him. Okay, and then you know what happened.
Then he comes out with more great music and he
shows why he's Baby, And so for me, it actually
it was one of the few things in my life
that ate it me because I felt responded even though like,
look the amount of people.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Just showing him love. I mean, people would just make
a jokes, but it was, well.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Let's keep this real. The amount of people who I've
in a thirteen hour drunken party, okay, that I've jumped
on their back and someone's caught a picture is like,
I've done that a thousand times now. I will tell
you that, like in my head, you know that ain't
happen anymore, just because I will, Like, if it was me,
I would think it's funny, but it actually hurt him
(16:57):
a little bit for you, and that ate it me.
That did eat it me. But you know what again,
the one thing I'd say, when you're doing great, people
try to test you. And I think that's a great
you know, I think that's a great character test. And
I think Baby showed why he's him. Drake's in the
show why why He's Him? And you know, for me,
last year is probably the first time people ever came
to me I've generally been you know, I think people
showed me a lot of love and support. And you know,
(17:19):
last year I realized, you know, NAS got a little bigger,
I became a little more well known, and so hey,
it's you know, it's easy to try to pick up
me for things. So yes, I am a little more careful.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Now, don't let nobody stop you from hugging people.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Listen, I'm gonna i'm many people.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
From the back as you want.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
I've never seen you hu the back. You never grabbed
Ja from the back.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I've hugged everywhere. First of all, I've hugged at if
you get me, really.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
Don't tell him you hug jay Z from the bag.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I'm a hugger.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Drunk, you hug any man from the back of what
you thinking?
Speaker 7 (17:49):
Let me tell you look at me, do not don't
engage with this.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
I'm going to say to you, I believe in I
believe in hugging. I'm you know what, I want to
spread love all the time. You know, hugs are about love.
And you know I love baby and I love my friends.
You know, I'm lucky to have so many great friends
around me. So yes, when I see you, you are
getting a drunken hug one time and you know you're
gonna like it because we're okay, and you know, and
that's that's remember that night we hold on. That's affection,
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and that's just respectful, have so much respect and love
for you. And you know when someone starts trying to
say that's not love, that's fucking bullshit. Okay, you know
what that is. That's just people want to hate it
on each other and trying to take people down. Accept
that we would accept.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
After the jay Z's Museum thing last year and you
were drunk and you came with me, I don't you
even think about it?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
It was still fresh then, was it was?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
It?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Did I then hug you or not?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
You did hug me perfect exactly.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
And by the way, the amount of the amount of incredible,
iconic athletes that have jumped on my back and given
me hugs in moments, I mean that was like somebody
just caught a picture. And by the way, I told
I was with a couple of nights ago. It was
his blue hair. That was the thing that basically it was.
You know, if you didn't have that, that blue hair,
that was what that was what killed the whole thing
was the picture. It was me, baby and CAUs and
like it was probably like one tenth of one second
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that someone caught the picture and then it got out there.
And you know, but anyway, look to me.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Just want hug whoever you want.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
But aside, I want to spread love all the time,
and people should hug each other all the time, and
people shouldn't say, oh, it's not cool if someone gave
someone a drunken hug. And what sucks is that it
actually did hurt baby for a period of time. That's
the fucked up thing. And that's the thing that I
don't like.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
What do you mean by hurt? And I would like
he was upset about.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
One bit upset about because he's tough and he's built. Yeah,
but it's just people took it. It's just a way
of like saying, oh baby ain't right, Oh he's this,
or he's it's all bullshit. It's just people. It's people
that want to hate with success. And to me, I
want everyone around me to do great. I want nothing's
gonna make me happy. Then you guys doing great, You
guys killing there everything you do. That's how we all
push each other up. And so that's how we all
learn from each other and grow together. Yeah, and so
(19:52):
I think you just got to like push aside that
that negativity.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Anything with me. When they keep bringing up the bunny happened,
they said you made him do money.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
So, by the way, let's talk about that. There's nobody
there's nobody who's been more tortured this year than me.
Talk about the diddy thing. Now, I know Meek really
really well. And I've never been to a ditty party.
He's never been in one of my parties in my life.
(20:25):
But I want to get this out there. Okay, Meek,
I know that guy really really well. Okay, everyone going
around trying to say and by if he was gay,
who cares? There's not a gay bone in his body.
You guys know him like I know him. I've been
around him more than anybody. Okay for people to just
like the internet, like a friend, one of my best
friends said to me, I think Meek's gay. Now, I'm
(20:45):
like why, because I've read it ten thousand times. There's
not a gay bone and that guy's body. So it's like,
why do people want to bring somebody down? Why do
people want to hate on somebody? Why someone go lie
on somebody and by talk about the bunny hops. Okay,
now you're talking about the most unathletic person in planet
Earth is Michael Ruban. I pride myself on that. And why,
by the way, why do I put the funny videos
(21:06):
out making fun of myself Because I want people to know,
you know what, you could suck at sports and be
the person who's pick last all the time. You can
be the person that was terrible at school. Remember I
barely graduate high school, okay, and then you can work
your ass off and the great business. So I'm trying
to show people do what you're great at and exceling that, right. Okay.
But so now Meek says to me, we're in the Bahamas.
He's there with his family and there with my family
(21:27):
four or five years ago, okay, and meets learning tennis
and I'm pretty shitty tennis. So we played tennis game. Now,
this was one pathetic athletic event, Like if you want
to see like two horrible tennis players going at it. Somehow,
it was very close. And so Meet says to me
at the beginning of the game, he says, what do
you want to bet? I'm like, what do you want
to bet it, like I'm not generally a like I
don't want to ever take money for my friends or
(21:48):
bet money, but if they want to, He's like, let's
do push ups. I'm like, great, fifty push ups. Great,
He's actually, let's do bunny hops. I said, what's a
bunny hop? So it makes like you go like this
he's teaching me what any I never saw before.
Speaker 7 (22:05):
I don't know that's one of those things you.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Like, he said, we do it all the time, right,
So I didn't even know what. I've never heard of
a bunny hop before. Okay, so now now we do it.
Then when I put it out like of course, because
I was making fun of because I had no idea
what people would turn this into. I put it on
my story just making fun of him, like, yeah, I
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kicked your ass and tennis like it's fun. I actually
want something in sports, like almost a miracle. I should
have a celebration. Okay, no one says the thing that
five years later, you know, people want to Now it's
the turn. You know who we're gonna hate on this one.
So let's hate on me. Oh, Meek's gay because some
guy made up a lie. Okay, So let's hate on
him for that and just try to change the narrative
and oh, you know, white billionaire telling you know, black
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men to do bunny hops. Actually he told me to
do bunny hops. It was his bet and sorry that
he sucked in tennis, Like okay, let's keep it real.
So like that that's the short in everyone. By the way,
probably any sport other than the scheme, which is obviously
a way sport, that's the only sport I could probably
get to me. But you know, like the thing I
don't like about that is it doesn't bother me. For me,
(23:17):
it bothers me that it actually when I see the
narrative of a really good friend of mine like Meek,
and people trying to you know, again, if he was gay,
which there's not one gable on everybody who cares. Number one,
let's if people want to be gay, this is twenty
twenty four, Who the fuck cares? Okay, number two, there's
not a gay blee on his body, So like, why
do people want to lie about that? Why do people
want to change a narrative of bet he maybe me
(23:37):
to try to hurt him? Like that is the one
thing I've learned about you know. Look, I'm just being
blunt because it's me. So the one thing I've learned
about black culture that I don't like is that black
hate on.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Hate speaking that more. I heard you say that early
and I wanted you to expound on that. You said
you don't like to see black people tearing down other
black people.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, it's horrible, like like it's horrible, like what Like
I want to support every Look you got two you
guys know me pretty well. Anything I can help with,
I'm always there. I always want to be helpful. I
feel lucky and fortunate to do what I do every
day it be is you know, whatever success I've had,
I feel blessed to do that, and I want to
give back in every way I can, you know, in
business and in charitable things. I'm always trying to be helpful,
(24:13):
Like why does someone want to bring somebody else down?
Like's try to build everybody up, like, you know, I'd
be more excited if, you know, if I'd be more
excited to see one of my friends do something that's
ninety nine percent less meaningful to me, but it would
be really meaningful to them because I want them to
do great. I want everyone around me to do great.
I don't like watching you know, there's a little bit
(24:34):
and you tell me, you guys, correct me if you
think I'm wrong. I think there's a little bit of
a black culture of like it's black hate on Hate's
like that black judge that me had that hated on
him and want to put in go extra hard on him. Okay,
it's like I like, it's what people always say to me.
It's like black hate on hate. So I think it's terrible.
I think it's something that it's I think it's culturally wrong.
And I'm probably get killed for saying this because you know,
(24:56):
you're you know, I'm glad.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
You're saying it openly. If this is the conversations that
are I have it.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
All the time that yeah, I want to hear this.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Yeah. So I think it's wrong. I think, like, why
do you not want to build everyone up around you?
Why do you not want everyone around you to do great?
The best way for everyone to do great is to
push each other up. Okay, I'm always pushing everyone around me.
It's why I spend, you know, a quarter of my
days helping other people because I want them to do great.
And by the way, it's why people always If you
think about this, no one ever came at me before
(25:26):
last year. Okay, last year we had the bunny hops
you brought up, you brought up the right okay, which
you're each completely made up. None of these things had
any real you know, No, they weren't real. They were
made up to hurt people. Okay, Yet everyone still can't
comes out for me because they're real, authentic relationships, and
I want to help everyone in everywhere I can. So
(25:47):
to me, if I could say one thing, Let's everyone
go out with a positive energy. You try to make
everyone do great around us and build people up. Let's
not try to bring people down. You don't. You don't
do better by taking your competition down. You do better
by pushing everyone up together. You want all the wind
behind your back.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
So when you see other when you see black people
tearing other black people down, in your mind, you'd be like,
I would never do business with that person because of
how they treat their own people.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Well, I don't see. I I don't really see the
people I'm around tearing people down. What I see is
the conversations that we have about people tearing you know,
trying to tear them down. And I think, like, you know,
even if a lot, Meek doesn't bring it up a lot,
but I'll bring up to me and be like, like,
(26:29):
look when you grow up the way Meek did you
up the way Baby did it? Like, these guys are tough. Okay,
you know you grow up. You didn't even think you
were going to make it to the age you are today.
You know, you're coming out of a pretty violent background.
You know, I think you feel fortunate, but I think
the reality is like they're aware that, you know, there's
a lot of hate that comes with their success, even
(26:49):
if like someone's trying to get out, I grew up
in a ruthless environment, and you know, I don't you know,
I'm trying to improve the people that are around me.
It's like then the people that you know you grew
up with their they want they want to take you
down because you don't have the same people around you.
How about you want to grow and you expand And
it doesn't mean you don't want to help the people.
Meet does so much for his community, you know, a
completely different situation, but Baby does so much for his community.
(27:09):
Like so I just that whole thing really does bother
me because I think it's wrong, and I think it's
culturally hurting the outcome of the black community. I think
it would be much better if everyone trying to push
each other upla community. Let let's let's keep it. Look, look,
I'm not I'm Jewish, I'm not remotely real, I'm not
(27:30):
remotely religious. Okay, it's just who I have never have been. Okay,
But the hate toward Jewish people, now, it's horrible and
it's it does not affecting it. I feel more bad
for like my daughter, you know, you see, like you know,
she's going to USC next year, and like you have
you know, you have situations where people can't even get
into their college because they're you know, they you know,
Cornell and New York City in New York City, Columbia.
(27:52):
New York City literally couldn't even control and make it
safe for Jewish students to be there. Like, like, why
is this good? This is horrible? Like we all want
to bring people together. By the way, why don't I
want to do finags Fest because I want to bring
tens of thousand sports fans together. Why is sports great
because it brings community together? Hate is bad. Any type
of hate sucks. It's by my dear friend Robert Craft
(28:13):
started the Blue Square to eliminate hate. Like if you'd say,
in life, if we could just like get people to
always support each other, get rid of hate, like that's
you know, why is this all this killing all the time.
It's from hate.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
And so if you have a lot of conversations about
it and the Jewish community, do you guys support each
other more?
Speaker 5 (28:29):
Do you see more support?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I think in most communities other than you know, I
think in most communities people are pretty to support, like
like I support everyone around me. I don't care, you know, black, white, purple, yellow, gay,
I don't care, like I'm gonna support everyone around me.
That's that's why I've aways been built to push everybody up,
to push everyone around me. I think that's generally great
(28:53):
for me. You know, I think most communities do it that, right.
I mean, you tell me, do you think I'm right
or wrong about you? Be honest?
Speaker 6 (29:00):
I mean, listen, it's uncomfortable to hear you say it
as a Jewish man, right, But I can't say that
you're wrong.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
That's why.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
But one thing I always say is that when I'm
talking about like what we call uncle Tom's I always say,
all of these Uncle Tom, black men think white people
like that, and they don't.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
They think that people that are in.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
White people are Jewish people, white people Jewish whoever, in
positions of power, they think that they like to sell
outs amongst us, and they don't. They don't like to
see a black person selling out another black person.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
I say that all the time. Right, So, I was
going to ask you about.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
A There's a guy named sid Rosenberg who called Vice
President Kamala Harris's husband a bad Jew. So when you
hear language like that, is that the same as is
that self hate amongst Jewish people.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
I don't know any of the background to it. I
don't even know her husband was Jewish. He just told me.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
But you've heard that term before, though. You've heard somebody
called somebody a bad.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Jew and people. People have told me I'm a bad
Jew and that like that. People tell me I'm not
doing enough for the Jewish community. You know, people say
to me, you do so much for the black community.
You start the reform, aligned just spend so much money,
time and energy to you know, fix the probation parole system.
Why have you done more for the Jewish community. You know,
for me, I never I was always great at giving
money away. I never did the work. And then when obviously,
(30:16):
and you guys know the story so well, when you know,
Meek went to prison for not committing a crime, and
I'm sitting in that courtroom and watching what was a
really close friend of mine, you know, go to get
sent to two to four years prison for popping and
wheeling on a motorcycle. It like, that was the most
out of control I ever felt in my life, because
I'm used to in business being able to control my
own destiny. And I think that's when my whole perspective changed.
(30:36):
I like really having to not just give money, but
really make a difference. And I think that's when you know,
once you got out, we started the Reform Alliance. Now
we have this giant Make a Wish partnership which everyone's
so excited about, where we do every sports wish. We
helped to make it better and crazy, to get the
athletes really involved, to make the wishes great for the kids,
and like we like, we love giving back. I get
told them a bad joo all the time because like, hey,
people say, you've only posted ten times about what's going
(30:58):
on but to me do things that are authentic. I
got so emotionally involved in fixing probation and parole once
I saw how fucked up the system was, and so
I'm honored to do that. You also can't do all
things to all people. Make a Wish the way I
got sucked into it, which was actually amazing. I really
didn't like everyone knows of make a Wish, but I
didn't know how it worked. And a kid had a
(31:19):
wish to do something of the Sixers, and he went
to sit courtside of the Sixers, and so I set
up on the court side of the Sixers and we
were playing the Lando Magical like three or four years ago.
Three years ago, I said to the kid, look, you know,
after he beat the Magic, when I'm bringing in the
locker room to meet jo all and meet James, meet everybody.
And the Magic at that point sucked. They were like
one of the worst teams in the NBA, and of
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course we lost to the Magic. It was really embarrassing.
So I went in the locker room. I said to
Joe and James, I said, hey, I'm bringing this kid
from Make a Wish into the locker room. And they said,
like we just lost against the Magic. Don't bring a
fucking person in the locker room, I said, Now I'm
bringing them anyway. Of course I didn't listen. I bought
this kid in the locker room. The team probably spent
forty five minutes with this kid, and literally that night
(32:00):
Joe hit me, James hit me, Tobias, Harris hit me, MAXI.
But they're all like, yo, that that puts everything in perspective,
Like seeing this kid listening to his story, you know,
like man, that that that really like, thank you for
doing that. We then called the Serial of Making Wish
and said we want to be the exclusive person to
do all of your sports wishes. We love stuff like that,
so again, for me, you have to do things that
(32:23):
are authentic, Like we can't do a lot of things,
but like you know, when I get caught a bad jo,
does it bother me a little bit? Yes, because I
think I'm doing everything that's comfortable for me. But I
can also fight every fight. Like we spend a lot
of time on probation for all we form, we spend
a lot of time on Make a Wish. And you know,
I work seventeen hours a day at Fanatics, which is
you know my part time job.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Do you guys own into seventy six is at old?
Do you miss that job?
Speaker 1 (32:46):
No? I'll tell you why. I think when I bought,
when we did the Sixers Day on twenty eleven, I
was in a different part of my life and I
think Fanatics was way less established, and I think we
were a much smaller company. It really got. It went
from in the early days helping the growth of Fanatics
and helping it was kind of like a little bit
(33:07):
of a business development platform. And then I learned so
much from the Sixers and I was able to really
help in a meaningful way to as Fanatics got a
lot bigger. Now we have thousands of deals with individual
athletes which are prohibited by all the leagues, went out
in the betting business, which is prohibited to take bets
on your own team. It was really in the way
of Fanatics growth, and so selling the stake and the
Sixers allowed me to just take finets to the next level.
(33:30):
And on top of that, I'll tell you, I don't
think there could be a bigger opportunity for me in
my life when I look at where Fanatics is today
and I feel like I'm just getting started with it,
and I look at like I just watched the Nike
movie like a year ago Nike era, and you look
at that and you're like, he's eighty seven today. Okay,
I'm gonna do this for the rest of my life.
Like my opportunity is massive, and I have so much
gratification and satisfaction of working around you know, hundreds of
(33:51):
millions of incredible sports fans and incredible athletes, and you know,
to get to spend time with guys, like you said,
you just it's such a fun job. I don't want
anything to be in the way of it. Also will
tell you that my relationships with everyone is so much
cleaner now because I think before I felt like guys
where I was friends with would still look at me
a little bit different, like you know, Book or Jason
(34:13):
Tatum or they. When I owned the Sixers, I felt
like there was just always a little bit, hey, it's
going to the Sixers guy. Now it's kind of like
everyone knows I'm just their guy, and you know, we
have an authentic relationship and so and by the way,
we do a lot of business. A lot of these
guys do you know their significant partners, So it really
cleaned up the relationship.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Does it ever?
Speaker 7 (34:32):
Does it ever get to you when people say stuff
like because you seem like such a nice guy, that
like why are all these artists fling into this white guy?
Or like why do they want to support this white guy?
Like especially because they show up for you so much.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, so I don't. I didn't even know that narrative
till about a year ago. So I like I i'd
say in the the last year was an adjustment for
me because I went from I'd say up until a
year ago, it was all love to me all the time,
and then the white party took on a life of
its own. For that, it's not a lot bigger. We
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got in multiple businesses and so then you had, you know,
someone start that narrative on the bunny hups. You get
someone start the narrative on the baby with the hugs,
And so then I started asking questions because I was
oblivious to it all okay, and people people told me
that narrative is out there. So I think what I
always want to do is be super aware and make
sure that I'm always doing so much for everybody to
(35:26):
make sure that like they feel like the relationship is
great for them, And so I'd say I'm more sensitive
to make sure that no one I don't want to
ever do anything with somebody that's not great for them.
I'd say I'm more sensitive to make sure I'm doing
that today. Like someone just told me something a couple
of weeks ago, like, hey, one person who doesn't like
me because they don't get invited to the White Party
is telling people, well, all these people perform for Michael.
(35:48):
So I'm making sure, like, hey, I don't want you
to perform unless you really want to perform. And by
the way, I'm trying to get and I'm always trying
to help you. There's so many businesses if you think
about it, like, look at Jay Z. He's an investor
in for Now. We own Fanatic Sports book together. We
own Mitchell Nest together.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
You know.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Look at Travis, we're doing the collapse together. Look at
met Keeps an investor in Lids. By the way, makes
single best investment in his life. You know, Hope, i'mon't
get in trouble for saying this, but it put two
hundred thousand dollars in the Lids and got eight million
dollars back. Wow.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Okay, go ahead, meet, shout out to meat.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yeah. So so like I always want my friends to
do great and I'm always working to do things that
are great for my friends. So does it bother me? Look,
I am the most thick skinned individual you'll meet. I mean,
I'm the most self deprecating person. I love to make
fun of myself, Like when I put out the baseball
thing and show how un coordinated im. Everyone makes fun
of me. I think it's funny. Does it hurt me
a little bit if it's hurting somebody else, yes, that's
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someone wherever I think, like you know, if something is
I want everything I do to be great for people.
I don't ever want to do anything but help people.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
I read someone that you were selling you were trying
to sell some mistake in fanatics too.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Completely made up.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
That wasn't true.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Okay, bye bye, Way. It's crazy now that I've learned
about and look, you guys deal with this because when
you get more well known, people just make nowadays, how
many times has anyone ever say anything got you? It's
completely unrue. So so somebody reaches out and says, hey,
we heard that you turned off your IPO, that you
were going to go public and you're not not going public,
and also that you're selling a billion dollars in your company.
(37:11):
So we've never even had a discussion about going public.
Will we eventually go public? Most likely? Have we had
one discussion with one bank about it? Not one okay,
And by the way, we told him, we've had no
discussions about going public. We've had no discussions about selling
you know, a billion dollars. It's just completely made up,
you know, they said, but you just did the White
Party's great clipait, we're running the story anyway. We got
a source.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Wow, wow, you know, a shout out.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
To the New York Post, who I generally love. They
just ran the story.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Yes, completely made up.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
One more thing I want to talk to you about.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Speak to us about the role Governor Shapiro played, uh
just just in Pennsylvania. Like I love all of the
things that he's doing with probation reform and criminal justice reform,
but a lot of that started because you when he
was a g got him on the meat case.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
I like Governor Shapiro, so I love so First of all,
I hate politics. I don't every want to be involved
in politics. So I think it's just bad. Okay, because
generally politics can't get anything done and people just fight
over everything, So I generally try to stay away from politics.
That's it. I love jos Shapiro. Okay. Josh Shapiro I
met when he was the county commissioner of the county
I live in. He was trying to get to marriage,
(38:19):
trying to avoid him like the play, because I don't
want to be about anyone in politics, and he's I think.
I actually like wrote like a I don't know a
twenty five thousand dollars donation to not have to meet
with him, okay. And then he asked my chief of
staff could he have a meeting in my office one day?
And he walked by me in the hallway and like
start having a conversation like, Oh, this guy's actually really smart,
and so I've known him for a long time. Josh
(38:42):
gets one hundred percent of the credit. I called Josh
the day when Meek got sentenced to two to four
years in prison in November I think it was twelve
to twenty seventeen. I called the governor Pennsylvania. He was
Attorney General of Pennsylvania and the mayor of Philadelphia. I
thought this would be easy by the way, getting a
black person out of jail that is shit is not easy.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Yeah, tells the other things they don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Maybe my delivery wasn't good, But so I called him
like guys, like he didn't do anything, he popped a
wheel in a motorcycle, like you gotta gotta let him out,
like Governor's like, well, I don't have the rights to
let him out. The ten generals, like Josh originally said
to me, don't get involved in this. This will be
bad for you. And I said, Josh, I love you.
You're wrong. Okay. And by the way, if you go
back to November of twenty seventeen, every single person I
knew said, don't get involved in supporting me. The only
(39:31):
people that stood up for Froim was Jay and Dez
and me. Everyone else said stay the fuck away from
the situation, will be and bye. Sixers Fans were canceling
season tickets because of this. Okay, I was getting destroyed.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Because it seemed like online like the support was so big.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Not in the first month or two. What happened was
we hired like thirty investigators who actually were not found
out that the judges crooked. Okay, that actually the people
that arrested him. Originally, he used to always say to me,
Meek would always say to me, Michael, if a black
man points a gun at a police officer, that's called suicide, okay.
And I never thought about it because he said it
to me, like he always wanted to prove to me
that he never pointed the gun of people. I'm like, Meek,
(40:08):
I don't like, I don't give a shit what you
did when you were nineteen years old. Who cares. You're
a different person. And so anyway, we hired the investigators.
Investigators proved the first cop came for and said, no,
he never pointed the gun. The whole thing's a lie.
We were stealing drug dealers money. It was like we
were like training day. This cop told us, we said
we sided f Davi. He said yes, that's ultimately how
the case got overturned. So Josh then turned and said, Michael,
(40:30):
you were right, get him out of prison. But when
you get him out of prison, you have to make
this about something much more than Meek. So Josh gave
us the original idea to start the reformalized. It didn't
come from me, didn't come from Jay, didn't come a
round craft didn't come from me. It came from Josh Shapiro. Okay, Now,
Josh said, you you got to fix the probation post system.
That's how we got the idea. And then obviously you
know you're starting on a home plate when you start
something with jay Z, Desire, Meek, Robert Kraft, myself. I mean,
(40:54):
it's a pretty good group of people to start something with.
So it was very funded and you know, a lot
of strong personalities. Watching Josh's development has been amazing for me.
I mean, watching him go from county commissioner to attorney
general to governor. I think in Pennsylvania, I'm told he
has like the highest note like he has which I
don't think you get right, which you don't get that
(41:15):
politics you're lucky to get, you know, fifty one percent right.
So he's incredibly I think supported in Pennsylvania. I think
he's really capable. I mean, I'm almost relieved that they
didn't pick him for VP because I'll have nothing to
do with this election now, and had it been him,
it's my guy, I would have had to support it
in a meaningful way just because of my strong personal fill.
Speaker 6 (41:34):
I was disappointed at first that he didn't get picked
at the VP, but Tim Wall seems solid.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Yeah, you know, and look a lot of people say
he didn't get picked as he was Jewish, and I
think that's you know, that's I think, if that's really
the reason that sucks. But you know what that means,
we all just got to bring people together. Like, you know,
you guys have this amazing show. You know, I think
one of the things you guys can do with the
show is bring people together. Okay, I think that's one
of my responsibilities. Like, you know, look, I do have
you know, I suck at a lot of things. I'm
a decent leader, so I should help bring people together.
(41:59):
So you know, to me, you know, I think, you know, I.
Speaker 6 (42:02):
Don't think he wanted to get the gig. I think
he feels like his job is not done in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Well, I talked to him a couple of nights before
I was I was in Europe and I had had
a long conversation with him and I knew he was
I think he's a very he believes he'll do the
right thing for his country, and he loves what he's
doing in Pennsylvania. But if if the world, if the
country decided that he was the right person. I think
he would have been comfortable to step up and do that.
(42:27):
But I think he's incredibly you know, excited about what
he's going to do in Pennsylvania. And you know, for me,
you know, I just have so much respect for him,
even though, again I'll say this one hundred times, I
hate politics.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
So you think he didn't get it to he was Jewish.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
I mean, it's what people say. It's what people are
saying to me. He didn't say that to me. I like, again,
I don't follow this stuff, Like I'm not like you know,
I'm someone who's born Jewish. I'm just not religious. I'm
not embarrassed with that either. Like you know, my sister's
actually a canter in the Jewish religions. You have me,
you know, just cancer, she's like she sings on stage
(43:00):
so and she's very religious. I'm not religious at all.
But what I like to do is, like again, learn
from everybody around me. You know, I have heard that
narrative a lot, and like I hate this. You know,
we should get rid of all self hated all cultures,
should bring everyone together, like we want the whole, Like
let's flourish, like America's Look, I think America is the
breatest country in the fucking planet. Okay, and so we're
(43:20):
all blessed to be here. We have so much opportunity.
Did you ever dream that you'd be doing this twenty
years ago? I mean, okay, well you're doing amazing. You
guys are all doing it, and you guys are gonna
keep doing more amazing.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
And that's right.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
When I came on the show with you on comedy section,
it was like, this guy's built to do this, and
like it's just so like we're also lucky in what
we do and we just got to bring everyone with us.
Speaker 4 (43:38):
I agree with optimism, that's right.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Always. By the way, I wake up like that, go
to bed like that, never drink a sip of coffee
in my life.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Well, this weekend fanatics fanatics fests Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
Speaker 5 (43:50):
What are the times, what are the prices? How can
people buy tickets?
Speaker 1 (43:53):
You go to Finace Fest site, general mission tickets fifty bucks,
that's what most people buy. And come from open to
clothes and just have the time of your life. There's
gonna be so many, so many fun things. Two hundred
great athletes, so many great stunts, you know, all the
leagues activations. I want to see you, you guys. Who's coming?
You guys coming?
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Am I gonna be here this weekend.
Speaker 5 (44:10):
I won't be this set. I'm gonna trying to bring
my Sunday on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
I might pull up one day.
Speaker 4 (44:17):
Any sports person, but coming.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
We love that, you guys.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
We love that you guys.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
Yous gonna be a bar there like the White.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Party forty forty popped up in the mid it, I'm going,
okay you we'll get the three of you guys set
for that anxiety.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
We're going come on, everybody, put your hands in. We're
going let's go.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Come on.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
No so like people?
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Yeah, I mean he actually.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Does like people. He just tries to talk ship. He
does like you do what he does?
Speaker 5 (44:44):
You know he does?
Speaker 3 (44:45):
I do.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
I couldn't do what he does if he didn't.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
Like thirteen hours long ago, you never answered that one.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
That one is nine thirty a m. Till seven pm.
So it's actually like halftime. Okay, White Part is a
much bigger test to be resilience. But did we do
this three days we did the pre party. I want
you guys that I'm dropping out. Hold on, what are
you wearing? I need you to come in the uniform.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
Let's go, baby, I'm wearing whatever keeps you from hugging
me from the back. Okay, let's go, let's go.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
It is not uncomfortable. Oh come on, let's go.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
I had the chair protection.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
The consum look like hurt, Michael rub and y'all me.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
Okay, let's give it.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
You go.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
What is it the deep?
Speaker 1 (45:33):
E's comfortable yourself?
Speaker 4 (45:37):
Yeah, I know that's right.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
All right.
Speaker 5 (45:39):
We just had a three up there, Michael Robins, what
you did? It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 5 (45:47):
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