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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning, Breakfast Club Morning,
everybody in stej Envy, Jess, Hilarious, Charlamage, the guy we
are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Jess is on maternity leave, so Lauren's filling in and
we got a special guest in the building. Her album
Revenge is out right now. Ladies and gentlemen, money no
welcome back.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
How you feeling, man, I'm tired. I'm trying to keep.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Up fashion weeks like those honest answers.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
No, it's a lot, you know, trying to keep up
trying to entertain. Everybody is sleep. So I could sing
do promo be a mom?
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Yeah, be a mom? Wow?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Hello up.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Then this week you had fashion week because you've been
out and about.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yeah. I did two shows the first day and then
I've just been doing another album promo. That's what I'm
really here for.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Gotcha.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
What's your regimen?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Like?
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Like when do you sleep or you eat? Do you
eat different when you want runs like.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
This or yeah? Like I guess so hyper focused sometimes
I forget to eat.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Oh that's not good.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yes, to have people remind me, like Greeny, my routine
is all over the place. And one thing I do
make sure I do is wash my face every night,
just kind of.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Like the makeup and practice de compressed.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Sometimes I have to I don't know if this is
a word, but like destimulate, Like if I'm over stimulated
throughout the day I come home, I just don't want
to talk.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
Nobody talks about that enough over stimulation, because we're sitting
around with these phones all day. In between text messages
and phone calls and social media, you're constantly, constantly, constantly stimulated.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
It's it's more like in the physical worlds, like sometimes
you go in these spaces, they're dusty a lot of
these buildings. But yo, I don't understand how y'all.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
No, I'm good.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I'm good. I can bring clearly in here. Okay, I
don't see how y'all don't have dusty y' know, like
me and my friends, we've been in the same place.
They don't have these problems. But I blow my nose up.
You haven't like partic hello dust Yeah, crazy, But it'd
be cold sometimes i'd be hunger. I feel like a
Sims character, you know, if y'all play Sims like they
be cold, tired, hungry, need to take a bath, and
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then I gotta talk to people and like smile and
I always take a photo of somebody asks me. So
sometimes I just be like.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I'm tired men. What about them in general? Like you
run across any of.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Those, they'd be scared to talk to me.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
They should be if the duty.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, I make guys nervously.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Someone's told you that, No, I.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Can see it. I see the lips quivering when they
talk to me.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Guy's been trying to hogh.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Let you No, I just be in my presence, like
they don't go outside. So like when they see me
in person, they'd be like, oh shit, she's actually really pretty.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (02:56):
How do you feel when people say that to you,
like when they see your person, like, oh my god,
she's so she's really pretty in person.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Because I don't use filters and a lot of stuff
like that. So but I think like I have a
really great makeup artist and glam team.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Give God credit money, loan glow by God, God credit.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Now, shout out to Jesus, but not like I actually
look like my pictures when I show up. So I
think that's surprising for a lot of people. I used
to get offended. I'm not gonna lie, It's be like
what you mean, like you're so pretty impersonal? Was I ugly?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
You know?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
But no, No, I understand what they're saying is actually
look like my picture?
Speaker 7 (03:33):
I posted this on TikTok, Like, how does that make
you feel when people say that? Because I don't know
why I was the top of.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
It might be some from there.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I also didn't I didn't have a self concept until
like maybe six or seven years ago.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I didn't understand how people perceive me? But I didn't.
I didn't know that that was a thing.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
How do you think they perceive you.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Like a regal like I don't need any help, Like
I have it all together and.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Because you got money.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
It's always been like that, even in high school, you know,
people just kind of just look at me as like
this unicorn.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Probably because you had a level of confidence that they
didn't have.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
It wasn't confidence, it was obliviousness. Like I literally just
used to be like did he look a bird?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Yeah? So you basically.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
They have a concept of like dark skin, light skin,
like none of that pretty ugly. Yeah. No, I'm lucky
in that regard, where like I never had any confidence issues.
Maybe like some weight fluctuation, like I wish I was skinny,
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but then like last time I was here, I was
like super skinny, and I've been that and now I'm
just like and it's not comfortable, Like everything hurts, you
know what I'm saying, Like sitting in the GYRL when
you don't got no ask.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
What you mean because we drag it over here, I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah, you know I got a little wagon, yeah, because
it's it's a thing like you know, I know.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
You don't got a wagon. I do got a wagon.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I've never looked at, well the revenge, who are getting revenge?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Your money long anybody whoever slept on me, whoever tried me,
whoever tried to stop forward motion. I think the best
revenge is seeing me everywhere. I know I make you itch.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
For somebody in particular that you know, people try to
issue you.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Oh yeah, a lot of people. You know, I've been
around for a long time, Like I helped a lot
of people get from you know, with your yeah, just
like showing up, helping come up with like I mean,
I don't just write songs like I come up with
like the theme and the treatment, and you know a
lot of times those ideas get taken and you don't
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get compensated for that. I think that just comes with
being a creative. Like I'm an all around creative, so
I can't help but share my point of view. And yeah,
like a lot of people did not think that I
would get to this level. And the reason why I
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know that is because they'd be like, man, you really
did it, like you did not give up? Like why
you're saying it like that, Like you do you know
something that I don't know? But also I know a
lot of the people like what they said because the
industry is small, and I just never I never like
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I know what you said.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I just feel that this is your way of doing that.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
It's just I mean, I don't really care that much,
but like I'd rather see who you actually are rather
than like alert you that I'm onto you, because then
you could change.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Yeah, why did this body of work make you use
that title?
Speaker 6 (07:03):
Like, like what about these fourteen songs made you say
I'm gonna name this revenge?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
So that was the last song that we did on
the album, One Day Surround Thomas from Rock City, who's
written like so many hits in the last I don't
know five years and then the Dream was there. He
just came. It just came to say hello, and I
looked around the room. I was like, we got tricky.
The dream me to around Thomas and Kukuro, who does
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my vocal producer, and I was like, there's no way
I'm about to let you I walk up out of
here and not get a song like this is crazy.
So we was talking about relationships, and you know, Dream,
he liked to argue, so he was talking about just
like the male versus female dynamic and how women are
like bitter sometimes when they don't get their way blah
blah blah, and sorry if I'm messing that up, Dream,
(07:52):
I'm just paraphrasing. So I started talking about just like
I just don't want to spend spend my energy that
I could be putting into accomplishing my goals by engaging
in your whatever it is, like your drama, your A
lot of times people want you to do the emotional
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labor for them, like, oh you made me feel like this, Okay,
I apologize, it won't happen again. But I'm also not
gonna sit here and lie to you and tell you
that I'm gonna change anything to make you feel better.
That's your work. You have to do that, and so
I don't want revenge. I'm just gonna continue growing and
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developing as a human being, glowing up, and that is
the best revenge or the best get back. You know,
all the petty stuff.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
I know you you talked on the Cruise Show a
bit about this, and you revealed there that you and
your uh, I guess it's a strange husband.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
I don't know what the title would be. You guys
had separated and it was kind of similar. Like you
you said you just were of dealing with like drama
and people not being happy and things of that nature.
How much of that went into this album? And like
how much of it do we feel when we listen
to these songs?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I think like, as a this was the first time
as an artist that I actually was writing things that
were straight from my brain like a diary. Before it
was like living vicariously or hearing her story from one
of my friends. And it actually it was very scary
(09:32):
because I don't like people in my business and I
also understand that, like if you watch that whole interview,
I was very specifical with what I said. I didn't
say any of the words that were in the headlines.
I did not say that.
Speaker 7 (09:46):
I went back and listened earlier because I wanted to
hear your exact words, and I felt like, and correct
me if I'm wrong, but I felt like you were.
You were just a bit exhausted by whatever that situation was.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
I'm just exhausted said period of Like anybody or anything
that is trying to pull you into negativity or pull
your focus or bog you down, I just don't want
to do it. Like you could wake up every day
and choose to be happy. Fact, you know what I'm saying.
Every single day is a new day.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
But you're left the door open too because you said
you know things can change, he can work on himself
and maybe things could change in the future.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
You still feel that way, And have y'all worked on
it at all?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Who is y'all? Okay?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Has he worked on himself? Then I should say I.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Have no idea you you only the only way you
know is results. Like you know what I mean. Every
day you just choose a better action than the day before,
Like you make adjustments.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
The best apologies, change behavior exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah, So like the only way I will know that
you won't hurt me is if you don't any way,
I know that you know you are you are gonna do.
What you say is if you do it. Yeah, you know,
actions versus words. And that's for anyone. Like I said,
with my own mama, my granny. The only person who
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won't get that kind of attitude for me would be
my child. You know what I'm saying, because my responsibility
to help him grow into a wonderful human, to operate
at his highest level on this planet. Everybody else that's
on you and eventually even him one day, I'm after
loved right.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Do his thing and ain't gonna be too far. You
got about fourteen years.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, now his birthdays. We have our birthdays on the
same day actually, so next.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
Week, when they get about sixteen, that's when they start
to become their.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Own little persons.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
He already is now. Yeah, he'd be like, no, okay,
whatever you say.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
You know you in the You're in the album with
a song called Ruined Me. Do you feel like a
person can really ruin you?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
It depends on like your interpretation of the record. I
think that when I say it, I'm saying that most guys,
and like I'm not an expert. I'm not saying all men,
but it's always a man. They want a dummy. They
want a dummy. They want someone who will not question them,
(12:26):
will not I think that's what they mean by submissive.
You want to be able to continue moving through life, undeveloped,
unmotivated on whatever. You don't want someone to challenge you
and push you, and so a lot of times guys
won't change. They'll just go find someone who will accept
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their negative or poor choices.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
I think we gotta put a thumb in front of
men and guys, some men, some guys.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Well, no, I said, it's not all men, but it's
always a man, you know. I just think that again
when I say you ruined me, I'm wise now. I
do not believe you when you say, oh, I love
you so much, but your actions are doing something else.
So you're ruined me for everybody else, because now I'm
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watching you. Know what I'm saying. It's no more like
blind falling in love loving your dirty draws like m M.
I love myself and you can support that, and I
will allow myself to be in your space and you
can experience me loving myself.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Like you got to meet me where I'm at, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
My job to love me. Ain't my job to give
that to you? And by me loving me, it will
pour over onto you and you will feel loved.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
That's a fact, you.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Know what I'm saying. That's what I mean. It's not
about to be. No, I'm dropping everything every time I'm cooking,
on cleaning. Mm hmm.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Does that make it?
Speaker 7 (13:56):
I mean, this is I was gonna say, Does that
make it tough for you when you think about trying
to move forward and possibly dating?
Speaker 5 (14:00):
But this is all new?
Speaker 7 (14:01):
Like are you even in that spaceship where you're even
exploring other men?
Speaker 5 (14:08):
I'm tired everybody.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
No, Well you said you've always said you didn't like
dating before your husband, So if.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I don't really like people right now, I will say
that I'm just really I'm understanding like the game, you
know what I'm saying. Like there's different games being played,
so like there's the relationship game, the marriage game, the
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career game, the frequency game, like and I'm just focused
on like getting my foundation right and getting everything together
so that any game I decided to go play, I'm straight.
You know what I'm saying. I think that as women,
sometimes we get distracted by relationships and we start put
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and everything into it. So I'm not saying no.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Money log is fed the Yeah, I feel it, but my.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Life is great even with the things that are challenging.
It's nothing to like be mad or like bitter. But
you just figured out it's just a puzzle to solve.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
And so anybody who's coming in making me feel unsure
about anything or disturbing my peace, you gotta go. You
gotta go down to a mosquito or fly like gods
just don't have time.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
How do you know.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Finish anything anything?
Speaker 6 (15:44):
No, I was just gonna say, you know, how do
you know that you're not becoming what you hate?
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Meaning like I don't hate anything.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
I'm saying, if you're upset about something or relationship or
heard about something that happened in the relationship, how do
you know you're not projecting that onto other people.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I think I've reached a level of self awareness where
I'm always asking questions and I'm still in a very
much in like a discovery exploration childlike like maybe there's
something here that I don't understand. What is this? What
you know? And I'm always inquiring for like even when
I get pissed, like it hapen last night. Somebody did
somebody like. But you know, it's like I'll be like,
(16:22):
are you okay? You need something? You're thirsty? Who you'
here with? Like I'll be trying to figure out because
you got to be out your mind. You're not talking
to me to push you off. But I was a
girl like walk pass and was like she wasn't looking
at anyone, and she just was like, oh, have a
good night. Meanwhile, I'm trying to get a table. We
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went to the last lap okay on some restaurant. You know,
they got like three tables in there. I'm trying to eat.
I'm hungry, I'm cold, I'm tired. Uh she said. She
said it out in the no but when she kept
walking past, she and you know I can feel energy,
(17:08):
she said, I guess not. But it was like directed
at me.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Now you ain't say nothing back to it.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
But I'm on my phone. I'm trying to I'm like,
maybe I could get a burger, like y'all take it too.
I'm hungry. And I turned around and I looked at
my friend and he started laughing. He was like, your friend,
don't do it. I was like, she can't be talking
to me. I know she's not talking to me. I
don't like that kind of stuff because to me, that
says that you think you could beat me up, You
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think you could beat me up, you.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Bully me. I don't like that.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Did you No, she she was walking on us, so
she can't be talking to me. I know she not.
And they just kept walking like I think they was like, yeah,
don't do that because I'm very nice, I'm quiet, Like
you know, people have like a perception of me, I
will beat you up, Like, don't do that.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
I said that about somebody last week, Like this person
got to show me, what do you mean the way
this person talking? They got to show me. They got
to show the way you're talking. They got to show
me they can beat me up.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
But if the lady said have a good night, and
she thought you heard and you said nothing, she probably
was like she probably felt offend.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
She wasn't looking at That's that's like me being like,
good morning, who am I talking to?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Do you know how?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
It wasn't that many people, so it was like it
was a section you No, there was other people. She's
walking past and she said have a good night to
the air, like I mean honest to hear what you're saying.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
But she's probably not from here, because that's that can
be a coaching shock when you're not from New York,
because you know, I'm from the South. So I greet
people and I say things like can't see you later,
and nobody will respond back. But that's just a New
York thing, like New York is just rude.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
No, I would have said something if I thought she
was talking to me. That's the other thing. I'm so nice,
Like I always take the photo, I always speak, I always,
you know, always, because I understand, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
A fight because you say you can still fight.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Fight no more. I'm too rich for that now, you
know what I'm saying. But I never lost one actually
know my first fight I lost.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
But I'll be.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I do because I feel it's like you don't want
to fight. You don't want to fight someone who is afraid,
you know what I'm saying, because you don't know what
they're gonna do. I'm always cared to get hit, so
I'm gonna make sure you can't hit me. Never lost,
But don't be not fighting anyone. Don't be taking that
as a challenge because you're gonna go to jail. I'm
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gonna call those people.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
You have a you have a song called thirties. How
much have you learned from your thirties?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Still? Yeah, I I have learned over the last ten
years because I started my self reflection and like internal
journey at twenty six. Over the last ten I have
learned that everybody's on their own individual course and that
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you cannot interfere with free will. So no matter how
much I might want something for you, who am I
to take that from you, that lesson or that that
opportunity to grow and learn Because you don't have to
learn through you could choose to learn through joy. You
don't have to learn through drama and trauma. But most
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of the time, people are not motivated to change anything
until stuff gets very uncomfortable. And so I've learned to
just like relax and be like, yeah, yeah, we got
all ten fingers and toes were breathing, you know what
I'm saying, Gude, Yeah, gratitude, but also just like a
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deep understanding and like, uh, lack of like I'm not
afraid of anything anymore, you know, not afford to lose people.
I understand, like it's probably gonna hurt, yeah, but go
over it.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
On thirties.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
It sounds like you're singing about the fear of being alone. Yeah,
so that's a fear, right.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
No, not for me.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
It's like I don't want that, Okay, I don't want
to be alone, like with no companionship. That doesn't necessarily
mean relationship. That could just mean, like, you know, if
I feel like I look cute, sometimes I might want
to talk to somebody. You're like, tell me I'm pretty.
Like what I'm saying?
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Yeap?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
What makes so cold?
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Because do you feel like you got married too young?
Speaker 3 (21:42):
No? Okay, I got married at twenty five.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
Some people would say that was young, that that was
pretty young, But no, I don't feel like that got you.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
Do you think because you spent do you ever look back?
Speaker 7 (21:53):
Because you spent from twenty five to now thirty five
married and you guys are figuring out whatever it's gonna
happen next, next or not, that you spent so much
of your time being married that it's like figuring out
this new world by yourself is like it's just like
a space. It's going to be so new that it's
like something that maybe you are not ready to jump
into or you don't know how to jump into it,
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like you don't know how to navigate it, because it's
like a new.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Like you've never been, like you've always.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Been in a marriage.
Speaker 7 (22:24):
Yeah, we really it's really hard to talk about because
I don't really know like what, like y'all are separated because.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
Divorce didn't come out your mom.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
You know one thing I'll say about this, and I
know a lot of people are gonna want to ask me.
They're going to want to know, But I know that
my words are very powerful, and I have what I say.
I just want to be careful about what I say
because I don't want to draw things to me.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
I love that for you.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
You know what I'm saying. When I say somebody's name,
they appear, so I don't want to. I mean, I
got you.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I was asking what turns you so cold?
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Because it was like, now you're like, I don't care
if somebody's in my life, I'm gonna turn what what
made you cold?
Speaker 3 (23:01):
I'm not cold? Just some focus on me, that's it.
I think have decentered men, of decentered relationships and what
the world teaches you your role is as a woman
I'm just here to have fun, to experience the best
that life has to offer, and I will share it
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with who I want to, not because I feel like
I need to be with no, you know what I'm saying?
Also too, like what guy can handle this? You know?
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Was that a part of it? Because he was your husband?
Speaker 7 (23:40):
You guys have done so much together industry wise in this,
I mean, yeah, it seems like it every time it
looks yeah, but also to how you used to talk
about him, like I know you talked about like y'all
working on the label together, and like he helped produce
some of your songs, correct, right, So it just it
seemed like sometimes.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
As a wife, you just want to say things to
help encourage things to go in a certain direction. Firm
and uh, what's the word motivate? Mm hmm, gently, pride,
But that doesn't always mean that it's connecting.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Wow in between the lines here, So.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
Have any of those these recent interviews prided him to
go start maybe doing the work on himself that he.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Needs to do. See, I haven't spoken.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
And why you think a man can't handle you the
same way you're talking about you know, you don't want
to talk.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
About all of the stuff that comes with being money
long as your guys.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
There's guys you unless you don't want an industry guy,
because gus guys that know exactly what you're dealing with.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
As a woman, I understand why industry men behave the
way they behave. I would never date one so easy.
Do you have whatever you want, Get whatever you want,
sleep with whatever you want. You're not about to play
in my face?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
What do you think changed because it's been you said
since twenty four you think the fact that you made it.
It's almost like I love you when you're trying to
make it, but now when you make it.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Things change, roles change.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
No, I'm only in my head. I only know what
I'm thinking. I'm not trying to be criptic. This is
just really how I think, Like I have no idea
when I'm not trying to figure it out.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
Are you picking up that pen while you're going through
all of this, I'm always writing, okay, because some fire
music can come from this. My God, I'm sorry that
you're going through whatever you're going through with Lord, have mercy.
I know you're making some fire records.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
I haven't been in the studio, but I'll probably again,
I get what I say, so I want to make
sure I'm saying things that I want to appear versus gotcha.
You know, I'm so mad, I'm not. I wake up
every day so happy, like I've surrounded myself with the
most wonderful, warm, funny like me and my friend group
(25:59):
are hilarious.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
That's needed.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Yeah, so like it's just so fun like you know,
we have our own little inside jokes. I laughed through
the pain, like you know what I'm saying. Like I'll
pick up something like a pickle, and like everything reminds
me of you know, just like so funny. Sometimes it's
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a big pickle.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Remind me of you know it?
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Hey, yo, what size is the story about life?
Speaker 6 (26:37):
When you talk about your words and your pin being powerful,
do you ever feel like some of your songs might
be too open and too honest, Like you might be
putting too much out there?
Speaker 5 (26:48):
You know.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
It's this weird thing that I have this effect on
people where even in real life, I'm only telling you
what I want you to know. There's so much. But
a lot of times people really think that they know me,
like they feel like, oh that's my first my homegirl
is my friend I'll be like I talked to this
one time, Like what, that's crazy? You don't know me
like that? Like if I actually like you, I talk
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to you, I open up. But if I don't know you,
or if I don't feel safe around you, I know
how to make people feel welcome and warm and cared about.
And I think sometimes people mistake that for like actual
care and concern speak.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
To how important feelings safe around people is.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
Because I love when people use that term, because that's
truly what it is. If you can feel safe around people,
you can.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Be yourself, Yeah, to be the I always encourage people
to like be the you that you are when you're
with your family and with you, when you're with your
best friends, or when you're by yourself. Like everybody has
star quality, every person, but it's when you feel safe
that that comes out. And I think a lot of
us spend time in spaces that we don't feel safe
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and that we're uncomfortable in, that we don't want to
be in, that we feel exposed, we're not confident enough
to be vulnerable. I think that's part of what makes
a great artist and a great performer, great entertainer actor.
They're not afraid to be naked in front of people,
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and they're not afraid to bear their soul in front
of the world. That is a very hard thing to do.
They had me singing in the street buskting yesterday on
the subway. Oh my god, it was so cringey.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
On a subway, like singing.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
No, it was very dusty down there, just you know,
getting content, content and skin these days. So I got
on the train and I was asking people like, uh,
how did you know your person was made for you?
Giving answers like what makes you feel like a baddie?
Just like questions from the song my album and the
other songs on my album. Yeah. So then they had
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me singing, like I started singing to this older couple
they've been together for like forty seven years. But it
was so cringey, girl.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Oh it wasn't all. It wasn't all. I mean New
York subways are a lot.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
No, but for me, it was like like the anxiety
I felt in my body. I thought somebody was gonna
hit me in the head and be like shut security. No,
not yesterday. Oh wait, yeah no, he was there, Yeah,
he was there. Yeah, but still this is New York. Yeah, yeah,
it'd be like, shut up. Yeah, that's what I thought
was gonna happen, but it didn't.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
But that's because you like really control your spaces. I
mean in the subway. It's like people from everywhere now.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
But once I started singing, people was like, is that
really her? That sounded like yeah. I was cringing though
the whole time.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Wow, superpowers? What are your superpowers?
Speaker 3 (29:51):
My superpower is detachment, like it really is now. In
reference to the song, what I'm talking about is like
I get what I say, and every aspect of my life,
I'm super successful. Why not here in this you knowship? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Why can this not? And that doesn't just mean romantically,
it could be family, you know, but why doesn't my
power work in this area? I really want this? Wow?
Speaker 7 (30:26):
So I think so many people in relationships can relate
to that. A lot of people because you date potential
sometimes and you see the potential before the other person does,
and you're like, come.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
On, see, I don't I can't relate to that. I
don't know what that means. If I like you, I
like you, all that other stuff don't matter.
Speaker 7 (30:42):
Whoa I mean, I think it would be the same
reason why you said that you were speaking things because
you wanted him to kind of like do it or
like catch on or whatever you were just saying earlier.
That's kind of what I'm talking about.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
That's an interesting perspective. I never thought about it. People
talk about potential. But if I like you, I like you.
I'm not waiting for you to grow to be somebody else.
I like you you are.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
I like you the person that I'm not motivated by
what you do because that could change, Like you could
quit your job and decide you want to be a chef.
Speaker 7 (31:10):
Not even like a job though, but like it could
be like how how they talk to you or how
they I don't know.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Like why do you have potential?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Somebody like.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
You can like somebody but no, not even that, but
you can like somebody and then get to know them
and you're like, you know what, I love that you
do this, but I don't necessarily like that you respond
this way about certain stuff.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
And then you guys have to figure that out and
that take another girl.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
That's normally how.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
I that's literally what you said earlier.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
What you do?
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Yeh know?
Speaker 3 (31:41):
How do you have potential? In communication? There's no potential?
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Don't be putting my business out there like that.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Yeah, no, girl, no potential. You don't like how somebody
talk get a new one.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
That's what I'm single.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
I mean, I know for me myself, Like because I
started young with that person that I'm talking about. Once
I grew to a certain point, there were certain things
that I was just.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Like, I don't know if I like the Stockholm syndrome.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
Oh wow, okay is it that? Would that be that?
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (32:10):
Back to you?
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Okay, No, No, I love when people.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
I never thought about it as Stockholm syndrome.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
You're just comfortable there, I mean, yeah, your capture chapter
is crazy.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Man.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
You know, this is probably the most difficult thing about
me being in a long term relationship is that I see, yeah,
I could see you know what I'm saying. You can't like,
you know, there's a difference between marriage and boyfriend and girlfriend.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Yeah, we can't just walk away when you guys.
Speaker 7 (32:46):
So outside of that being a difference, like when you
guys went from boyfriend and girlfriend to marriage, what was
one of the biggest differences for y'all.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
I don't know. I don't have an answer for that,
because once I like you, that's it. Oh, ma'am jumping
in until you be like cool and then I detached
that you guys mean my superpower poof you never existed.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
You don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
When you're writing stuff like every night I've been crying,
I can't fall asleep.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Land in the bed and my diamond. I still wear
my ring?
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Are you?
Speaker 5 (33:22):
Are you still wearing the ring? Not today but in
this song?
Speaker 7 (33:26):
Okay, but you said we were reading your diary, so
we take you at your word.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
No, that had nothing to do with y'all.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
All right, some things, Remember, words are powerful. You're telling
us you don't let that man no more.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
I don't want to be with that man.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
No. When you say love, what do you mean by love?
Romantic love?
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Or don't look at me girl?
Speaker 6 (33:53):
I can't help you with this parenting love spinning to
death to us part love. I want to still be
with you and have a family. Let's figure life out,
do better or worse love?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I don't know, but you could fall out of love.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
I don't know. I'm very I'm detached from.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Don't you're not You're so tough, you are I'm not.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Didn't we talk about this last time, we didn't. We
didn't talk about me being on the spectrum.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Yes, yes we did.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Yes, yeah, got you. So No, when I say I detached,
I really do. Seriously, Yeah, you are not out of sight,
out of mind.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
There's no great area with you.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
Is there a reattachment that happens? I mean, I don't
know how that works when you're on the spectrum, I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I think with anyone there's a safety and trust issue.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
What's that violated?
Speaker 3 (34:59):
As I read somewhere, it takes two years to regain
trust once you once it's broken. So just consistent behavior,
which we talked about.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
In the beginning, take way longer than that, depend.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
On depending on what it is. But if I if I,
if I consistently come up to your house and every
time I come your dog bites me, put the dog up,
or I'm going to assume that you are okay with
that and you don't feel the need to keep me safe,
so I'm not going to come back over here.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
He was putting the dog on you.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
That was an analogy the headline. By the way, you
know what, I'm would just stay off the internet once
this comes up.
Speaker 7 (35:51):
On the find side of things, you do have Glorilla
on the album, but the only feature?
Speaker 5 (35:56):
Why is she the only feature?
Speaker 3 (35:58):
First of all, I feel like I don't really make
songs that require that. Yeah, And like I really want
to stress the fact that like this project was.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
A and R.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
It wasn't like just there in the studio freestyle and
making records like I wanted to have certain tones, like
what don't I have here? Does this song need drums?
Does it not? I don't know, you know, so we
really thought about like who could be on my records,
and it's not I don't believe in that. Just throwing
an artist on a song just because they got fifty
(36:29):
million monthly listeners, Like you know what I'm saying doesn't
make sense. I actually really like Glow. She's funny, super talented,
and she's singing on there. So when I first heard it,
I was like, oh, sing Rella, I love this for me? Yeah,
I don't. I don't make songs that If anything, it
would be like a duet male female. But who would
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that be? There's not very many active R and B men.
Who is there already? You have a song? Was working
on getting one with Chris. Maybe I just came off
tour with him, fun, super fun.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
What did you learn on the eleven eleven tour?
Speaker 3 (37:12):
I learned how to push my energy all the way
to the top and to connect with everybody. It was
my first tour, so like looking back at the footage
even now, I'm just like, while I can see like
the the greenness, but when I was in it, it's
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just like it was I gotta, I gotta get up here,
like I gotta do it. There was only one night
where it wasn't that great, and that's just because like
the first night in Atlanta, they was like, girl.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
Who was you?
Speaker 3 (37:46):
We came here to see Christopher?
Speaker 5 (37:47):
We do that? I want you?
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Yeah, And all the songs and all I mean they
always in the last fifteen minutes of my set, the
arena light up. Everybody's singing as ever, gonna get old.
But like all the songs in the middle that maybe
some people knowing, some people don't. That's where the work is.
It's like for me connecting with them and showing them
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who I am, talking to them, showing my personality things
like that. So it was fun. I learned a lot.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Well, what song you want to hear down? Let's get
into a juvene off the album.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
One song off the album, we could play Bessie. I
love Yeah, Bessie. Is this a song about? First of all,
this is the first song that I took ever that
I did not write. I tweaked a few things to
make it fit me, but up tempos is not really
my thing. I do ballads and like introspective type stuff.
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So when to Ron played it for me, I was
like that, whatever that is, I need that, please, And
then I just changed it because there's a lot of
Bestie songs. I just changed the spelling because that's how
we actually say it on a song that's my Bessie. Yeah,
it's fun, fun record.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
You know you don't want to ask you. You made
me think about it.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
When you talk about performing on stage, what do you
enjoy more because you've made.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Money doing both being an artist or a writer.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
I enjoy being able to say what I want to
say when I want to say it. And I also
really did not have fun as a songwriter just because
of the way that songwriters get treated. So I prefer
to like have my own autonomy.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Ladies and gentlemen, money long money joining us.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 6 (39:35):
Let's get the next project don't get me wrong. Venge
is dope, dusty, Uh, I just am because I came
up on the you know, Marriya j Blige, what's the
four one one my life?
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Era?
Speaker 6 (39:49):
Can't act like that. That heartbreak music wasn't fantastic. Not
saying you're going through heartbreak. Yeah, I'm saying you're going
through a lot of different emotions. I can't wait to
hear that express through music.
Speaker 7 (40:00):
Why do you think that I'm not going through a
bunch of emotions. It feels like it a bit. But
we I mean, you know yourself better than we do.
But yeah, I just can't imagine being in that space.
You know everything and now it's out there in the
public and you gotta do press and you gotta you know,
relive and retalk and all that stuff.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
So, you know, if.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Anything is a little bit of like frustration, why y'all
keep bringing this? Why you keep reminding me? Because I
forgot the music that's all not just here like even
in life. Yeah, people be like, I'm so sorry, I'm like,
for what.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Because of the interviews and the music, that's really what
it is.
Speaker 6 (40:38):
You write a song called Ruined Me, and you tell
us that you want to sleep with your ring on
every night.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
It's like, oh that.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Money, thank you for joining us. It's the Breakfast Club,
Good morning, wake that ass up.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
In the morning. Breakfast Club.
Wake that ass up in the morning, Breakfast Club Morning,
everybody in stej Envy, Jess, Hilarious, Charlamage, the guy we
are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Jess is on maternity leave, so Lauren's filling in and
we got a special guest in the building. Her album
Revenge is out right now. Ladies and gentlemen, money no
welcome back.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
How you feeling, man, I'm tired. I'm trying to keep.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Up fashion weeks like those honest answers.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
No, it's a lot, you know, trying to keep up
trying to entertain. Everybody is sleep. So I could sing
do promo be a mom?
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Yeah, be a mom? Wow?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Hello up.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Then this week you had fashion week because you've been
out and about.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yeah. I did two shows the first day and then
I've just been doing another album promo. That's what I'm
really here for.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Gotcha.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
What's your regimen?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Like?
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Like when do you sleep or you eat? Do you
eat different when you want runs like.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
This or yeah? Like I guess so hyper focused sometimes
I forget to eat.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Oh that's not good.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yes, to have people remind me, like Greeny, my routine
is all over the place. And one thing I do
make sure I do is wash my face every night,
just kind of.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Like the makeup and practice de compressed.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Sometimes I have to I don't know if this is
a word, but like destimulate, Like if I'm over stimulated
throughout the day I come home, I just don't want
to talk.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
Nobody talks about that enough over stimulation, because we're sitting
around with these phones all day. In between text messages
and phone calls and social media, you're constantly, constantly, constantly stimulated.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
It's it's more like in the physical worlds, like sometimes
you go in these spaces, they're dusty a lot of
these buildings. But yo, I don't understand how y'all.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
No, I'm good.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I'm good. I can bring clearly in here. Okay, I
don't see how y'all don't have dusty y' know, like
me and my friends, we've been in the same place.
They don't have these problems. But I blow my nose up.
You haven't like partic hello dust Yeah, crazy, But it'd
be cold sometimes i'd be hunger. I feel like a
Sims character, you know, if y'all play Sims like they
be cold, tired, hungry, need to take a bath, and
(02:15):
then I gotta talk to people and like smile and
I always take a photo of somebody asks me. So
sometimes I just be like.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I'm tired men. What about them in general? Like you
run across any of.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Those, they'd be scared to talk to me.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
They should be if the duty.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, I make guys nervously.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Someone's told you that, No, I.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Can see it. I see the lips quivering when they
talk to me.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Guy's been trying to hogh.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Let you No, I just be in my presence, like
they don't go outside. So like when they see me
in person, they'd be like, oh shit, she's actually really pretty.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (02:56):
How do you feel when people say that to you,
like when they see your person, like, oh my god,
she's so she's really pretty in person.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Because I don't use filters and a lot of stuff
like that. So but I think like I have a
really great makeup artist and glam team.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Give God credit money, loan glow by God, God credit.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Now, shout out to Jesus, but not like I actually
look like my pictures when I show up. So I
think that's surprising for a lot of people. I used
to get offended. I'm not gonna lie, It's be like
what you mean, like you're so pretty impersonal? Was I ugly?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
You know?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
But no, No, I understand what they're saying is actually
look like my picture?
Speaker 7 (03:33):
I posted this on TikTok, Like, how does that make
you feel when people say that? Because I don't know
why I was the top of.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
It might be some from there.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I also didn't I didn't have a self concept until
like maybe six or seven years ago.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I didn't understand how people perceive me? But I didn't.
I didn't know that that was a thing.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
How do you think they perceive you.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Like a regal like I don't need any help, Like
I have it all together and.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Because you got money.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
It's always been like that, even in high school, you know,
people just kind of just look at me as like
this unicorn.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Probably because you had a level of confidence that they
didn't have.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
It wasn't confidence, it was obliviousness. Like I literally just
used to be like did he look a bird?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Yeah? So you basically.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
They have a concept of like dark skin, light skin,
like none of that pretty ugly. Yeah. No, I'm lucky
in that regard, where like I never had any confidence issues.
Maybe like some weight fluctuation, like I wish I was skinny,
(04:55):
but then like last time I was here, I was
like super skinny, and I've been that and now I'm
just like and it's not comfortable, Like everything hurts, you
know what I'm saying, Like sitting in the GYRL when
you don't got no ask.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
What you mean because we drag it over here, I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah, you know I got a little wagon, yeah, because
it's it's a thing like you know, I know.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
You don't got a wagon. I do got a wagon.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I've never looked at, well the revenge, who are getting revenge?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Your money long anybody whoever slept on me, whoever tried me,
whoever tried to stop forward motion. I think the best
revenge is seeing me everywhere. I know I make you itch.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
For somebody in particular that you know, people try to
issue you.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Oh yeah, a lot of people. You know, I've been
around for a long time, Like I helped a lot
of people get from you know, with your yeah, just
like showing up, helping come up with like I mean,
I don't just write songs like I come up with
like the theme and the treatment, and you know a
lot of times those ideas get taken and you don't
(06:02):
get compensated for that. I think that just comes with
being a creative. Like I'm an all around creative, so
I can't help but share my point of view. And yeah,
like a lot of people did not think that I
would get to this level. And the reason why I
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know that is because they'd be like, man, you really
did it, like you did not give up? Like why
you're saying it like that, Like you do you know
something that I don't know? But also I know a
lot of the people like what they said because the
industry is small, and I just never I never like
(06:45):
I know what you said.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I just feel that this is your way of doing that.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
It's just I mean, I don't really care that much,
but like I'd rather see who you actually are rather
than like alert you that I'm onto you, because then
you could change.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Yeah, why did this body of work make you use
that title?
Speaker 6 (07:03):
Like, like what about these fourteen songs made you say
I'm gonna name this revenge?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
So that was the last song that we did on
the album, One Day Surround Thomas from Rock City, who's
written like so many hits in the last I don't
know five years and then the Dream was there. He
just came. It just came to say hello, and I
looked around the room. I was like, we got tricky.
The dream me to around Thomas and Kukuro, who does
(07:31):
my vocal producer, and I was like, there's no way
I'm about to let you I walk up out of
here and not get a song like this is crazy.
So we was talking about relationships, and you know, Dream,
he liked to argue, so he was talking about just
like the male versus female dynamic and how women are
like bitter sometimes when they don't get their way blah
blah blah, and sorry if I'm messing that up, Dream,
(07:52):
I'm just paraphrasing. So I started talking about just like
I just don't want to spend spend my energy that
I could be putting into accomplishing my goals by engaging
in your whatever it is, like your drama, your A
lot of times people want you to do the emotional
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labor for them, like, oh you made me feel like this, Okay,
I apologize, it won't happen again. But I'm also not
gonna sit here and lie to you and tell you
that I'm gonna change anything to make you feel better.
That's your work. You have to do that, and so
I don't want revenge. I'm just gonna continue growing and
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developing as a human being, glowing up, and that is
the best revenge or the best get back. You know,
all the petty stuff.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
I know you you talked on the Cruise Show a
bit about this, and you revealed there that you and
your uh, I guess it's a strange husband.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
I don't know what the title would be. You guys
had separated and it was kind of similar. Like you
you said you just were of dealing with like drama
and people not being happy and things of that nature.
How much of that went into this album? And like
how much of it do we feel when we listen
to these songs?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I think like, as a this was the first time
as an artist that I actually was writing things that
were straight from my brain like a diary. Before it
was like living vicariously or hearing her story from one
of my friends. And it actually it was very scary
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because I don't like people in my business and I
also understand that, like if you watch that whole interview,
I was very specifical with what I said. I didn't
say any of the words that were in the headlines.
I did not say that.
Speaker 7 (09:46):
I went back and listened earlier because I wanted to
hear your exact words, and I felt like, and correct
me if I'm wrong, but I felt like you were.
You were just a bit exhausted by whatever that situation was.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
I'm just exhausted said period of Like anybody or anything
that is trying to pull you into negativity or pull
your focus or bog you down, I just don't want
to do it. Like you could wake up every day
and choose to be happy. Fact, you know what I'm saying.
Every single day is a new day.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
But you're left the door open too because you said
you know things can change, he can work on himself
and maybe things could change in the future.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
You still feel that way, And have y'all worked on
it at all?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Who is y'all? Okay?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Has he worked on himself? Then I should say I.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Have no idea you you only the only way you
know is results. Like you know what I mean. Every
day you just choose a better action than the day before,
Like you make adjustments.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
The best apologies, change behavior exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah, So like the only way I will know that
you won't hurt me is if you don't any way,
I know that you know you are you are gonna do.
What you say is if you do it. Yeah, you know,
actions versus words. And that's for anyone. Like I said,
with my own mama, my granny. The only person who
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won't get that kind of attitude for me would be
my child. You know what I'm saying, because my responsibility
to help him grow into a wonderful human, to operate
at his highest level on this planet. Everybody else that's
on you and eventually even him one day, I'm after
loved right.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Do his thing and ain't gonna be too far. You
got about fourteen years.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, now his birthdays. We have our birthdays on the
same day actually, so next.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
Week, when they get about sixteen, that's when they start
to become their.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Own little persons.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
He already is now. Yeah, he'd be like, no, okay,
whatever you say.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
You know you in the You're in the album with
a song called Ruined Me. Do you feel like a
person can really ruin you?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
It depends on like your interpretation of the record. I
think that when I say it, I'm saying that most guys,
and like I'm not an expert. I'm not saying all men,
but it's always a man. They want a dummy. They
want a dummy. They want someone who will not question them,
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will not I think that's what they mean by submissive.
You want to be able to continue moving through life, undeveloped,
unmotivated on whatever. You don't want someone to challenge you
and push you, and so a lot of times guys
won't change. They'll just go find someone who will accept
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their negative or poor choices.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
I think we gotta put a thumb in front of
men and guys, some men, some guys.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Well, no, I said, it's not all men, but it's
always a man, you know. I just think that again
when I say you ruined me, I'm wise now. I
do not believe you when you say, oh, I love
you so much, but your actions are doing something else.
So you're ruined me for everybody else, because now I'm
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watching you. Know what I'm saying. It's no more like
blind falling in love loving your dirty draws like m M.
I love myself and you can support that, and I
will allow myself to be in your space and you
can experience me loving myself.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Like you got to meet me where I'm at, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
My job to love me. Ain't my job to give
that to you? And by me loving me, it will
pour over onto you and you will feel loved.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
That's a fact, you.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Know what I'm saying. That's what I mean. It's not
about to be. No, I'm dropping everything every time I'm cooking,
on cleaning. Mm hmm.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Does that make it?
Speaker 7 (13:56):
I mean, this is I was gonna say, Does that
make it tough for you when you think about trying
to move forward and possibly dating?
Speaker 5 (14:00):
But this is all new?
Speaker 7 (14:01):
Like are you even in that spaceship where you're even
exploring other men?
Speaker 5 (14:08):
I'm tired everybody.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
No, Well you said you've always said you didn't like
dating before your husband, So if.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I don't really like people right now, I will say
that I'm just really I'm understanding like the game, you
know what I'm saying. Like there's different games being played,
so like there's the relationship game, the marriage game, the
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career game, the frequency game, like and I'm just focused
on like getting my foundation right and getting everything together
so that any game I decided to go play, I'm straight.
You know what I'm saying. I think that as women,
sometimes we get distracted by relationships and we start put
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and everything into it. So I'm not saying no.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Money log is fed the Yeah, I feel it, but my.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Life is great even with the things that are challenging.
It's nothing to like be mad or like bitter. But
you just figured out it's just a puzzle to solve.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
And so anybody who's coming in making me feel unsure
about anything or disturbing my peace, you gotta go. You
gotta go down to a mosquito or fly like gods
just don't have time.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
How do you know.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Finish anything anything?
Speaker 6 (15:44):
No, I was just gonna say, you know, how do
you know that you're not becoming what you hate?
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Meaning like I don't hate anything.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
I'm saying, if you're upset about something or relationship or
heard about something that happened in the relationship, how do
you know you're not projecting that onto other people.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I think I've reached a level of self awareness where
I'm always asking questions and I'm still in a very
much in like a discovery exploration childlike like maybe there's
something here that I don't understand. What is this? What
you know? And I'm always inquiring for like even when
I get pissed, like it hapen last night. Somebody did
somebody like. But you know, it's like I'll be like,
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are you okay? You need something? You're thirsty? Who you'
here with? Like I'll be trying to figure out because
you got to be out your mind. You're not talking
to me to push you off. But I was a
girl like walk pass and was like she wasn't looking
at anyone, and she just was like, oh, have a
good night. Meanwhile, I'm trying to get a table. We
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went to the last lap okay on some restaurant. You know,
they got like three tables in there. I'm trying to eat.
I'm hungry, I'm cold, I'm tired. Uh she said. She
said it out in the no but when she kept
walking past, she and you know I can feel energy,
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she said, I guess not. But it was like directed
at me.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Now you ain't say nothing back to it.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
But I'm on my phone. I'm trying to I'm like,
maybe I could get a burger, like y'all take it too.
I'm hungry. And I turned around and I looked at
my friend and he started laughing. He was like, your friend,
don't do it. I was like, she can't be talking
to me. I know she's not talking to me. I
don't like that kind of stuff because to me, that
says that you think you could beat me up, You
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think you could beat me up, you.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Bully me. I don't like that.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Did you No, she she was walking on us, so
she can't be talking to me. I know she not.
And they just kept walking like I think they was like, yeah,
don't do that because I'm very nice, I'm quiet, Like
you know, people have like a perception of me, I
will beat you up, Like, don't do that.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
I said that about somebody last week, Like this person
got to show me, what do you mean the way
this person talking? They got to show me. They got
to show the way you're talking. They got to show
me they can beat me up.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
But if the lady said have a good night, and
she thought you heard and you said nothing, she probably
was like she probably felt offend.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
She wasn't looking at That's that's like me being like,
good morning, who am I talking to?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Do you know how?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
It wasn't that many people, so it was like it
was a section you No, there was other people. She's
walking past and she said have a good night to
the air, like I mean honest to hear what you're saying.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
But she's probably not from here, because that's that can
be a coaching shock when you're not from New York,
because you know, I'm from the South. So I greet
people and I say things like can't see you later,
and nobody will respond back. But that's just a New
York thing, like New York is just rude.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
No, I would have said something if I thought she
was talking to me. That's the other thing. I'm so nice,
Like I always take the photo, I always speak, I always,
you know, always, because I understand, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
A fight because you say you can still fight.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Fight no more. I'm too rich for that now, you
know what I'm saying. But I never lost one actually
know my first fight I lost.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
But I'll be.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I do because I feel it's like you don't want
to fight. You don't want to fight someone who is afraid,
you know what I'm saying, because you don't know what
they're gonna do. I'm always cared to get hit, so
I'm gonna make sure you can't hit me. Never lost,
But don't be not fighting anyone. Don't be taking that
as a challenge because you're gonna go to jail. I'm
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gonna call those people.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
You have a you have a song called thirties. How
much have you learned from your thirties?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Still? Yeah, I I have learned over the last ten
years because I started my self reflection and like internal
journey at twenty six. Over the last ten I have
learned that everybody's on their own individual course and that
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you cannot interfere with free will. So no matter how
much I might want something for you, who am I
to take that from you, that lesson or that that
opportunity to grow and learn Because you don't have to
learn through you could choose to learn through joy. You
don't have to learn through drama and trauma. But most
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of the time, people are not motivated to change anything
until stuff gets very uncomfortable. And so I've learned to
just like relax and be like, yeah, yeah, we got
all ten fingers and toes were breathing, you know what
I'm saying, Gude, Yeah, gratitude, but also just like a
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deep understanding and like, uh, lack of like I'm not
afraid of anything anymore, you know, not afford to lose people.
I understand, like it's probably gonna hurt, yeah, but go
over it.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
On thirties.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
It sounds like you're singing about the fear of being alone. Yeah,
so that's a fear, right.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
No, not for me.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
It's like I don't want that, Okay, I don't want
to be alone, like with no companionship. That doesn't necessarily
mean relationship. That could just mean, like, you know, if
I feel like I look cute, sometimes I might want
to talk to somebody. You're like, tell me I'm pretty.
Like what I'm saying?
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Yeap?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
What makes so cold?
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Because do you feel like you got married too young?
Speaker 3 (21:42):
No? Okay, I got married at twenty five.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
Some people would say that was young, that that was
pretty young, But no, I don't feel like that got you.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
Do you think because you spent do you ever look back?
Speaker 7 (21:53):
Because you spent from twenty five to now thirty five
married and you guys are figuring out whatever it's gonna
happen next, next or not, that you spent so much
of your time being married that it's like figuring out
this new world by yourself is like it's just like
a space. It's going to be so new that it's
like something that maybe you are not ready to jump
into or you don't know how to jump into it,
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like you don't know how to navigate it, because it's
like a new.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Like you've never been, like you've always.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Been in a marriage.
Speaker 7 (22:24):
Yeah, we really it's really hard to talk about because
I don't really know like what, like y'all are separated because.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
Divorce didn't come out your mom.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
You know one thing I'll say about this, and I
know a lot of people are gonna want to ask me.
They're going to want to know, But I know that
my words are very powerful, and I have what I say.
I just want to be careful about what I say
because I don't want to draw things to me.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
I love that for you.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
You know what I'm saying. When I say somebody's name,
they appear, so I don't want to. I mean, I
got you.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I was asking what turns you so cold?
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Because it was like, now you're like, I don't care
if somebody's in my life, I'm gonna turn what what
made you cold?
Speaker 3 (23:01):
I'm not cold? Just some focus on me, that's it.
I think have decentered men, of decentered relationships and what
the world teaches you your role is as a woman
I'm just here to have fun, to experience the best
that life has to offer, and I will share it
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with who I want to, not because I feel like
I need to be with no, you know what I'm saying?
Also too, like what guy can handle this? You know?
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Was that a part of it? Because he was your husband?
Speaker 7 (23:40):
You guys have done so much together industry wise in this,
I mean, yeah, it seems like it every time it
looks yeah, but also to how you used to talk
about him, like I know you talked about like y'all
working on the label together, and like he helped produce
some of your songs, correct, right, So it just it
seemed like sometimes.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
As a wife, you just want to say things to
help encourage things to go in a certain direction. Firm
and uh, what's the word motivate? Mm hmm, gently, pride,
But that doesn't always mean that it's connecting.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Wow in between the lines here, So.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
Have any of those these recent interviews prided him to
go start maybe doing the work on himself that he.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Needs to do. See, I haven't spoken.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
And why you think a man can't handle you the
same way you're talking about you know, you don't want
to talk.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
About all of the stuff that comes with being money
long as your guys.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
There's guys you unless you don't want an industry guy,
because gus guys that know exactly what you're dealing with.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
As a woman, I understand why industry men behave the
way they behave. I would never date one so easy.
Do you have whatever you want, Get whatever you want,
sleep with whatever you want. You're not about to play
in my face?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
What do you think changed because it's been you said
since twenty four you think the fact that you made it.
It's almost like I love you when you're trying to
make it, but now when you make it.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Things change, roles change.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
No, I'm only in my head. I only know what
I'm thinking. I'm not trying to be criptic. This is
just really how I think, Like I have no idea
when I'm not trying to figure it out.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
Are you picking up that pen while you're going through
all of this, I'm always writing, okay, because some fire
music can come from this. My God, I'm sorry that
you're going through whatever you're going through with Lord, have mercy.
I know you're making some fire records.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
I haven't been in the studio, but I'll probably again,
I get what I say, so I want to make
sure I'm saying things that I want to appear versus gotcha.
You know, I'm so mad, I'm not. I wake up
every day so happy, like I've surrounded myself with the
most wonderful, warm, funny like me and my friend group
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are hilarious.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
That's needed.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Yeah, so like it's just so fun like you know,
we have our own little inside jokes. I laughed through
the pain, like you know what I'm saying. Like I'll
pick up something like a pickle, and like everything reminds
me of you know, just like so funny. Sometimes it's
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a big pickle.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Remind me of you know it?
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Hey, yo, what size is the story about life?
Speaker 6 (26:37):
When you talk about your words and your pin being powerful,
do you ever feel like some of your songs might
be too open and too honest, Like you might be
putting too much out there?
Speaker 5 (26:48):
You know.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
It's this weird thing that I have this effect on
people where even in real life, I'm only telling you
what I want you to know. There's so much. But
a lot of times people really think that they know me,
like they feel like, oh that's my first my homegirl
is my friend I'll be like I talked to this
one time, Like what, that's crazy? You don't know me
like that? Like if I actually like you, I talk
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to you, I open up. But if I don't know you,
or if I don't feel safe around you, I know
how to make people feel welcome and warm and cared about.
And I think sometimes people mistake that for like actual
care and concern speak.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
To how important feelings safe around people is.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
Because I love when people use that term, because that's
truly what it is. If you can feel safe around people,
you can.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Be yourself, Yeah, to be the I always encourage people
to like be the you that you are when you're
with your family and with you, when you're with your
best friends, or when you're by yourself. Like everybody has
star quality, every person, but it's when you feel safe
that that comes out. And I think a lot of
us spend time in spaces that we don't feel safe
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and that we're uncomfortable in, that we don't want to
be in, that we feel exposed, we're not confident enough
to be vulnerable. I think that's part of what makes
a great artist and a great performer, great entertainer actor.
They're not afraid to be naked in front of people,
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and they're not afraid to bear their soul in front
of the world. That is a very hard thing to do.
They had me singing in the street buskting yesterday on
the subway. Oh my god, it was so cringey.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
On a subway, like singing.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
No, it was very dusty down there, just you know,
getting content, content and skin these days. So I got
on the train and I was asking people like, uh,
how did you know your person was made for you?
Giving answers like what makes you feel like a baddie?
Just like questions from the song my album and the
other songs on my album. Yeah. So then they had
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me singing, like I started singing to this older couple
they've been together for like forty seven years. But it
was so cringey, girl.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Oh it wasn't all. It wasn't all. I mean New
York subways are a lot.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
No, but for me, it was like like the anxiety
I felt in my body. I thought somebody was gonna
hit me in the head and be like shut security. No,
not yesterday. Oh wait, yeah no, he was there, Yeah,
he was there. Yeah, but still this is New York. Yeah, yeah,
it'd be like, shut up. Yeah, that's what I thought
was gonna happen, but it didn't.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
But that's because you like really control your spaces. I
mean in the subway. It's like people from everywhere now.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
But once I started singing, people was like, is that
really her? That sounded like yeah. I was cringing though
the whole time.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Wow, superpowers? What are your superpowers?
Speaker 3 (29:51):
My superpower is detachment, like it really is now. In
reference to the song, what I'm talking about is like
I get what I say, and every aspect of my life,
I'm super successful. Why not here in this you knowship? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Why can this not? And that doesn't just mean romantically,
it could be family, you know, but why doesn't my
power work in this area? I really want this? Wow?
Speaker 7 (30:26):
So I think so many people in relationships can relate
to that. A lot of people because you date potential
sometimes and you see the potential before the other person does,
and you're like, come.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
On, see, I don't I can't relate to that. I
don't know what that means. If I like you, I
like you, all that other stuff don't matter.
Speaker 7 (30:42):
Whoa I mean, I think it would be the same
reason why you said that you were speaking things because
you wanted him to kind of like do it or
like catch on or whatever you were just saying earlier.
That's kind of what I'm talking about.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
That's an interesting perspective. I never thought about it. People
talk about potential. But if I like you, I like you.
I'm not waiting for you to grow to be somebody else.
I like you you are.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
I like you the person that I'm not motivated by
what you do because that could change, Like you could
quit your job and decide you want to be a chef.
Speaker 7 (31:10):
Not even like a job though, but like it could
be like how how they talk to you or how
they I don't know.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Like why do you have potential?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Somebody like.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
You can like somebody but no, not even that, but
you can like somebody and then get to know them
and you're like, you know what, I love that you
do this, but I don't necessarily like that you respond
this way about certain stuff.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
And then you guys have to figure that out and
that take another girl.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
That's normally how.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
I that's literally what you said earlier.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
What you do?
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Yeh know?
Speaker 3 (31:41):
How do you have potential? In communication? There's no potential?
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Don't be putting my business out there like that.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Yeah, no, girl, no potential. You don't like how somebody
talk get a new one.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
That's what I'm single.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
I mean, I know for me myself, Like because I
started young with that person that I'm talking about. Once
I grew to a certain point, there were certain things
that I was just.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Like, I don't know if I like the Stockholm syndrome.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
Oh wow, okay is it that? Would that be that?
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (32:10):
Back to you?
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Okay, No, No, I love when people.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
I never thought about it as Stockholm syndrome.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
You're just comfortable there, I mean, yeah, your capture chapter
is crazy.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Man.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
You know, this is probably the most difficult thing about
me being in a long term relationship is that I see, yeah,
I could see you know what I'm saying. You can't like,
you know, there's a difference between marriage and boyfriend and girlfriend.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Yeah, we can't just walk away when you guys.
Speaker 7 (32:46):
So outside of that being a difference, like when you
guys went from boyfriend and girlfriend to marriage, what was
one of the biggest differences for y'all.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
I don't know. I don't have an answer for that,
because once I like you, that's it. Oh, ma'am jumping
in until you be like cool and then I detached
that you guys mean my superpower poof you never existed.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
You don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
When you're writing stuff like every night I've been crying,
I can't fall asleep.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Land in the bed and my diamond. I still wear
my ring?
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Are you?
Speaker 5 (33:22):
Are you still wearing the ring? Not today but in
this song?
Speaker 7 (33:26):
Okay, but you said we were reading your diary, so
we take you at your word.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
No, that had nothing to do with y'all.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
All right, some things, Remember, words are powerful. You're telling
us you don't let that man no more.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
I don't want to be with that man.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
No. When you say love, what do you mean by love?
Romantic love?
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Or don't look at me girl?
Speaker 6 (33:53):
I can't help you with this parenting love spinning to
death to us part love. I want to still be
with you and have a family. Let's figure life out,
do better or worse love?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I don't know, but you could fall out of love.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
I don't know. I'm very I'm detached from.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Don't you're not You're so tough, you are I'm not.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Didn't we talk about this last time, we didn't. We
didn't talk about me being on the spectrum.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Yes, yes we did.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Yes, yeah, got you. So No, when I say I detached,
I really do. Seriously, Yeah, you are not out of sight,
out of mind.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
There's no great area with you.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
Is there a reattachment that happens? I mean, I don't
know how that works when you're on the spectrum, I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I think with anyone there's a safety and trust issue.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
What's that violated?
Speaker 3 (34:59):
As I read somewhere, it takes two years to regain
trust once you once it's broken. So just consistent behavior,
which we talked about.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
In the beginning, take way longer than that, depend.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
On depending on what it is. But if I if I,
if I consistently come up to your house and every
time I come your dog bites me, put the dog up,
or I'm going to assume that you are okay with
that and you don't feel the need to keep me safe,
so I'm not going to come back over here.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
He was putting the dog on you.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
That was an analogy the headline. By the way, you
know what, I'm would just stay off the internet once
this comes up.
Speaker 7 (35:51):
On the find side of things, you do have Glorilla
on the album, but the only feature?
Speaker 5 (35:56):
Why is she the only feature?
Speaker 3 (35:58):
First of all, I feel like I don't really make
songs that require that. Yeah, And like I really want
to stress the fact that like this project was.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
A and R.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
It wasn't like just there in the studio freestyle and
making records like I wanted to have certain tones, like
what don't I have here? Does this song need drums?
Does it not? I don't know, you know, so we
really thought about like who could be on my records,
and it's not I don't believe in that. Just throwing
an artist on a song just because they got fifty
(36:29):
million monthly listeners, Like you know what I'm saying doesn't
make sense. I actually really like Glow. She's funny, super talented,
and she's singing on there. So when I first heard it,
I was like, oh, sing Rella, I love this for me? Yeah,
I don't. I don't make songs that If anything, it
would be like a duet male female. But who would
(36:52):
that be? There's not very many active R and B men.
Who is there already? You have a song? Was working
on getting one with Chris. Maybe I just came off
tour with him, fun, super fun.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
What did you learn on the eleven eleven tour?
Speaker 3 (37:12):
I learned how to push my energy all the way
to the top and to connect with everybody. It was
my first tour, so like looking back at the footage
even now, I'm just like, while I can see like
the the greenness, but when I was in it, it's
(37:34):
just like it was I gotta, I gotta get up here,
like I gotta do it. There was only one night
where it wasn't that great, and that's just because like
the first night in Atlanta, they was like, girl.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
Who was you?
Speaker 3 (37:46):
We came here to see Christopher?
Speaker 5 (37:47):
We do that? I want you?
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Yeah, And all the songs and all I mean they
always in the last fifteen minutes of my set, the
arena light up. Everybody's singing as ever, gonna get old.
But like all the songs in the middle that maybe
some people knowing, some people don't. That's where the work is.
It's like for me connecting with them and showing them
(38:12):
who I am, talking to them, showing my personality things
like that. So it was fun. I learned a lot.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Well, what song you want to hear down? Let's get
into a juvene off the album.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
One song off the album, we could play Bessie. I
love Yeah, Bessie. Is this a song about? First of all,
this is the first song that I took ever that
I did not write. I tweaked a few things to
make it fit me, but up tempos is not really
my thing. I do ballads and like introspective type stuff.
(38:47):
So when to Ron played it for me, I was
like that, whatever that is, I need that, please, And
then I just changed it because there's a lot of
Bestie songs. I just changed the spelling because that's how
we actually say it on a song that's my Bessie. Yeah,
it's fun, fun record.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
You know you don't want to ask you. You made
me think about it.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
When you talk about performing on stage, what do you
enjoy more because you've made.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Money doing both being an artist or a writer.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
I enjoy being able to say what I want to
say when I want to say it. And I also
really did not have fun as a songwriter just because
of the way that songwriters get treated. So I prefer
to like have my own autonomy.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Ladies and gentlemen, money long money joining us.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 6 (39:35):
Let's get the next project don't get me wrong. Venge
is dope, dusty, Uh, I just am because I came
up on the you know, Marriya j Blige, what's the
four one one my life?
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Era?
Speaker 6 (39:49):
Can't act like that. That heartbreak music wasn't fantastic. Not
saying you're going through heartbreak. Yeah, I'm saying you're going
through a lot of different emotions. I can't wait to
hear that express through music.
Speaker 7 (40:00):
Why do you think that I'm not going through a
bunch of emotions. It feels like it a bit. But
we I mean, you know yourself better than we do.
But yeah, I just can't imagine being in that space.
You know everything and now it's out there in the
public and you gotta do press and you gotta you know,
relive and retalk and all that stuff.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
So, you know, if.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Anything is a little bit of like frustration, why y'all
keep bringing this? Why you keep reminding me? Because I
forgot the music that's all not just here like even
in life. Yeah, people be like, I'm so sorry, I'm like,
for what.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Because of the interviews and the music, that's really what
it is.
Speaker 6 (40:38):
You write a song called Ruined Me, and you tell
us that you want to sleep with your ring on
every night.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
It's like, oh that.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Money, thank you for joining us. It's the Breakfast Club,
Good morning, wake that ass up.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
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