April 12, 2024 • 41 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that answer up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Breakfast Club Morning, everybody is DJ Envy, Jessa, Larry Isshelaman
the guy we ought to Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed,
Neil Brennan. Welcome back. Yeah, gonna be here.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
It was back with another special called crazy Good.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Neil is one of the.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Last of the comedians who actually make special special.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Thank you for Searla Man, thank you for noticing, and
thank you for dissing most of my peers, both at
the same time. Yeah, why not get your man, You
can do both hit it.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Do you feel less pressure of putting this one out
versus the others?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Like the Blocks three mics, this one is not If
you thought the other ones were on some emo bullshit,
I hear you. This one has no emo ness to
it at all. It's just like fifty three minutes of
like this is me, like sprinting. I like them. I
know I do too, But there are people that are like, nah, yeah,
(00:57):
my man was a little too little, too incher. I
don't have a problem with that.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Somebody else, you know, somebody said that to me about
Bill Burr recently. They was like, Bill might be doing
a little too much.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
There, you know. Well, I watched him on here and
it was funny to see him be like that because
it's so not what he's been like. But I but
I Bill was sort of weirdly the inspiration for three
mics in a weird way because he had done a
thing called The Moth and he talked about emotional stuff.
So so I just but I just did two of them.
And the other thing is like I feel better, I
(01:29):
don't feel depressed anymore. So I didn't. I wasn't going
to force it. A dude, I did the show, I
did crazy good in DC, and a dude DM me
afterward and was like, I kept waiting for you to
show up because he was basically saying like, why weren't
you sad? So I have an announcement at the beginning
(01:52):
of the show like, Hey, I'm not sad, so just
enjoy yourself. Let me let me ask you a question.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
What got you out of that sad.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Because you've been up here several times? Yeah, you had
a total different light, different space. And I was like,
Neil Brendan's not sad today, He's.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Not down, He's not Neil Brennan, sir.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I said Neil nick no, I said, so what got
you into this? What got you into this new space?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Uh? Well I call it plant medicine. The cops call
them drugs, Okay. Uh. Honestly, the thing I talked about
before ayahuasca. Uh, this thing called d M T, which
I don't recommend, but it was it kind of broke
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my brain and then it re congealed into something better.
And then this past year M d M A has
been really good for if you do M d M
A in a non party space, it can be Uh,
it can, it can. In my ex as, it was
(03:00):
a god connection that ecstasy.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
So what made you think you needed that?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Like? What got you to the point where let me
try ihascle because I because I tried zoloft, I tried,
I tried everything, and uh and it was kind of
working and this was it was just it was kind
of a hail Mary, like let's see and uh. And
the funny thing is people can tell like when you're like,
(03:29):
Neil's not that yeah, Like I'm just kind of different.
I'm wearing orange. I mean, come on, but I am
like energetically I'm different and it's due to that. And
then I've just gotten a lot of like it's the
corniest shit in the world, but like gratitude, you've been
(03:49):
doing You've been on gratitude a long time. Absolutely. I
was talking to buddy of mine about how how I
I was, like, I was doing like a gratitude checklist.
I would do it once a day and I would
just go over the facts of my life because our
brains kind of write sci fi about like so and
sows out to get you and she hates you, and
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this and that and but none almost none of it's true.
And so I would do a gratitude checklist of like
the facts of my life, like you are a successful comedian,
you have three Netflix specials, you're you know, you have
a commitment to growth, you're curious, you're intelligent, you know,
all like at positive attributes. And then a buddy mine
was and we were talking about Islam, and I go,
(04:31):
Islam's got it right where they're like they pray five
times a day, like you kind of need to. And
he goes, well, why don't you gratitude five times a day?
And I was like, Okay, So I've been doing that
and I don't always get to five, but but I've
been doing that for the last four or five months,
and it's been it's been great. So you find something
to be thankful full five times a day. Yeah, I
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just do kind of the same list five times a day.
Yea of like the facts of my life, Like I'm
a health I mean, anyone that can hear this, things
are going pretty well. Even though if you're having a
bad day or you're in debt or like, there are
things that are negative. But like if you live in
a in a world where you can watch this or
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hear this, things are better for you than they are
for a lot of the world.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Do things check off on the you own waking up
mm hmm and making it home safely at night, that
is a very under appreciation. It's a very unappreciated blessing
to make it home at night.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, everybody and make it home like either they not
like they a lot of people die in work. No,
but I'm saying, like you be aware, but like people die,
just stuff that's real basics, right, you forget and if
you can, I've And it's it's like I said, it's
so corny, but like it's effective just doing just remembering
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how fortunate you are.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I was gonna ask, you know, will you ever fearful
of losing their quote unquote touch right when you have
a speak sometimes rapers, it'd be like, I don't want
to give up the lean because that's I think that
helps me write better.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Did you ever feel like if I go through what.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I'm going through, the aahuasc whatever you trying to get,
you know, over that that bump, that hump, that you
would lose your touch.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
As a comedian the genius?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I don't really there. I'm two minds about it, which
is one of them is I don't It's a reflex
at this point, like I've been known this like thirty years,
so if a news story happens, I can kind of
like you know, and uh, and if I lose it,
I had a good run, like I've started. Half Bay
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came out twenty seven years ago, so no, I know,
so like I've been I wrote for all that on Nickelodeon,
like I've been out here, wrote I was, yes, I
was fighting the molesters, and uh, like I've been doing
this a long ass time. So if it, if it,
if I, if I lose the touch, I lose the touch.
(07:00):
But what what I found is the touch is a
reflex at this point, like I can just I just
my brain does it out of the touch? Did you
see any of that, Nickelodeon, thank you for bringing that up.
I didn't see any of it, trum Mane, But but
I am against it, so I hope. So now we're
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on the record, and hopefully this will hold up in court.
Jesus Christy, No, I didn't see that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Now, all your specials have a great name, but it's
not just names. If you've seen through mics, you know
why it's called through micros. Have you've seen blocks, you
know why it's called blocks. I'm assuming crazy good is
just crazy good.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Uh, crazy good is actually okay. So one of the
parts of the special is making fun of the commodification
of mental health, like making fun of TikTok psychology and
all that, and so I'm not against it, but I
just feel like the amount of people making videos about
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trauma and and uh and all the diagnoses of like
you're being gasolt, just all that stuff is so aggravating.
It's so aggravating, and it's also dishonest because none of
these people have any idea what they're talking about. They
just hurt it on another TikTok. So I'm basically toward
the end. I'm saying, you know you're you do go
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to therapy, take medication, do I do all the stuff
you gotta do, But just know that most of the
great things in life are from psychopaths and drug addicts.
Damn Jesus. I mean, if I'm wrong, let me know.
What's it? All right? All the all? The inventor Sigmund
Freud open coke head. Most of Freud's books should be
(08:54):
called this maybe the Cocaine talking like there he was
a coke head. Uh yeah, women are jealous of our dicks. Yeah,
like it's real. KOCHI shit, Edison did coke. The Wright Brothers,
I don't know if they were on coke, but like
I mean or on math, but they had the metheist idea,
which is like, hey, do you fucking feel like you
(09:14):
can fly? The all like the modern inventors elon musk
o something, yeah, ketamine or he's just out of his mind,
And then I get into like what about musicians? Okay,
The Rolling Stones had, in order to tour America, had
(09:36):
to get a doctor to test them for drugs every day,
and the doctor lasted six weeks before he got hooked
on cocaine. Yeah, like yeah, hip hop, lean weed weed. Yeah.
So so you know, there's just like there's and then
(10:00):
I do comedians, Well, why are you guys all psychopathic
and drug addicts? I'm like, so far Richard Pryor drug addict,
George Carlin drug addict, Bill Cosby, choose your own adventure.
The modern ones like you know, Lenny Bruce a drug addict.
John Belushi's a drug addict. John mulaney told me to
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remind people he's a drug addict in the bed like
people were all something. So I'm not saying don't treat it.
I'm not saying, you know, ride it, but I'm just
saying the audience needs to accept that where we're not.
The other thing that's been happening is like comedians are
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like moral leaders, you know, like Dave or being a kid.
It's like why it's they're these serious issues and like
transgender rights and stuff, and then how bankrupt are others
segments of society that they finally were like, well what
do the clowns think? Why are you asking us what
(11:07):
we think about these This should have never gotten to
our desk. It's for politicians and clergy and other leaders,
but like, don't turn to Joe Rogan for vaccine advice. Yeah,
I think there's one though.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
I would say when I watched George Carlin, now he
was very prophetic.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, yes, yeah, but he also I can name a
bunch of real dark shit, Like he had a bit
about Blamia rich bitch, won't eat fuck her. Not exactly
the most ethical take he had, you know, he went
both ways. So again they were they we can be that,
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but the no one moves out to LA to be righteous.
Everyone moves out there would be funny and famous, you know.
And it's the same thing with like is Ellen nice?
Is Ellen? And I'm like, first of all, Ellen's hilarious
he and b she's a gay right icon, Like like,
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I don't I don't need her to be. She came
out on television, got kicked off television for being gay,
and then came back and dominated. But that's not enough
for people. They're like, yeah, but is she nice? It's
so childish. It's like being like, is my car also
a boat? Just appreciate that you have a car? Also
is Ellen nice? How many nice lesbians have you ever met?
Your entire life? You know what I mean. I say,
(12:39):
we don't talk about toxic studs enough. I say it often.
I know, step up toxics, toxic studs. I wonder what.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Comedians right becuse they always talk about the trauma that
comedians have experienced. I wonder if it is the expectation
of always having to make people laugh, you know a
psycho that is to get on stage in front of hundreds,
thousands of people and say I'm going to make them last.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah, it's a very hard job. Yes, it's a very
hard job, and it's a very weird job. Well how
do you do it on the Daily Show? How do
you do meaning the difference between this and that?
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Well, because number one, I don't approach it from a
comediance perspective because I'm not a comedian.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
And number thank you thank you for saying that.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yes I hate when they say that, but the Daily
Show allows me to go in death on things I
might just touch here on the surface.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
But are you do you worry about getting laughs?
Speaker 3 (13:39):
No? I rather really I'm also I'm more so concerned
with just saying something because that's when I look at
the Daily Show, that's the type of institution.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
That it is.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I'm more so concerned about saying something that I know
people are going to actually being formed by and take
something away from and be like, oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
But you don't want to do that thing where you
do what might have been a punchline and you hear
that air can conditioning unit in the background, you're like.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Oh, oh, okay, I feel like I do that anyway
naturally though, I feel like, you know, you have to
use humor to push push things along.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Right, But there it's sort of like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
metered for laugh. So I'm just wondering if you get
it's not scared but like a little bit like you're yeah,
scared kids, Yeah, yes, And and do you change your approach?
You just read what's on the you write it, read
what's on the problem.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yeah, because I might be a psychopath or some type
of sociopaths. You know, you're going to either get the
laugh or you're going to feel the pain of not right.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
That's the other thing is like, I don't you know
a lot of people. It's I have a hugehunk about
athletes too, because we want, you know, good mental health
and sports. And I'm like, you know, I want good
mental health for everybody, but not athletes, Like we need
our athletes to be psychos? What we I repeat myself,
(15:00):
and we need our athletes to be Did you see
the last dance? Did Michael Jordan seem mentally healthy to
you in the slightest giant mansion? One chair? Come on, guys, Uh,
he's out of his mind. So what I'm saying punching
Steve Kerr? And then I don't care. And then people
are like, well, he's you know, he's an angry guy.
(15:21):
He's not a great husband or that. I was like, well,
I'm not married to him. I don't give a shit.
Be as long as you don't break the law, you
can be as rotten to the people around you as well.
Lebron said on his podcast the other day, in order
to be great, you have to hurt your loved ones. Yeah,
and that's what the gambit is. All these people, any
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great athlete is Tom Brady is out of his mind.
It's like you couldn't even be retired. Made it like
ten days and it was like, I don't know these
fucking kids, like you can't like you don't know all
any great is out of their mind. And I don't
even get into like OJM I'm talking about just like MJ.
Lebron's a little something right if he's saying in public,
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you have to hurt your family like Lance Armstrong. The
joke I did on the show was like, I don't
even consider Lance Armstrong an athlete. I consider Lance Armstrong
a criminal who found a bike. Like that guy is
a criminal. He think about the worst lie you ever told,
and then imagine selling bracelets about it. This guy's gone
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tiger Tiger. I mean that dude, he's like he's he's
tokyo drifting at six thirty in the morning. These guys
are wired to and by the way, the women are too.
Like the gymnastics girls. We don't give those girls enough credit, man,
Like that's a crazy thing they're doing, a lot of
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them are getting paid, a lot of them. We're getting
sexually abuse, which is insane. And you got to get
it right, be first time, and you gotta stick the
landing or you're not. You ain't getting no wheaties. You
ain't getting the cover of wheaties with the wobbly landing.
You gotta nail it. The figure skating girls, they look
like they're in trouble, like they've First of all, it
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looks like they've never even seen makeup when they it's
like when they do the thing the routine, and they
gotta like they've never it's like their first day with
makeup like Daldaldall, Daldaldall Shock Horror like there, and then
they gotta they and then they gotta they do like
the hologram thing, uh, and then they gotta finish and
(17:38):
sit in the booth with their kidnappers at the end.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
I wonder if it's people being mentally unwell, are people
are really using their brains? And what I mean by
that is if you decide that, you know, you want
to wake up every day and just do the same
routine over and over, it doesn't really take much brain function.
But people that are really having to open up their
brains and use their minds, it's just using their brain
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to that fullest extent.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Does that just make you feel drive you crazy? I'll
make you seehim crazy? I don't I think that you know.
The joke I did in the show is it's like
when you're doing a video when you're making a video
game character, you have like one hundred points for like
you know, dexterity and speed, and all that stuff. It's like,
that's kind of what God does, and sometimes he just
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gets the calibration wrong, you know what I mean. Like
with when God was making Woody Allen, they were like
how many He was like, how many points should we
give him for comedy and filmmaking. He's like, fuck it,
give him a hundred. And then they were like, but
that's not gonna make points for not fucking his family,
and uh, I think that would be low emotional, Like you, well, yeah,
(18:52):
that's a nice way to put it. Uh, that's what
that's what the charges were. He low emotionally, I can't. Yeah.
Like so I just think if you're you're good at
one thing, it's so weird. If you can rhyme good,
it's like wrap that's in your brain. Most people's brains
don't come up with couplets like that. Most people don't
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see the world analytically. Most people don't see let alone analytically,
and uh, you know, funnily so it's just you're gonna
be deficient in other areas as long as you're not
breaking the law.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Do you think it's the gifts that make you shitty
or the world that comes with the gifts?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Oh, being a shitty person.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I think, oh when you I mean, I think you
have the gift, but it's I think it's the world
to access the power the money.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah, I think I think it. It's hard. I can't
think of many people that have been made. You have
to make a real effort to uh stay centered with
all the because it just becomes like if everywhere you
go people say you're in great shape, You're never going
to go to the gym. I mean so if everyone's like,
(20:01):
oh and anything for you, sir or miss or whatever,
it's like you're just not. It's people will only be
as good as they have to be. That's been my experience.
It's like if or if you demand it of them,
then they'll do it. But people will naturally do as
little as they It's like homework, Like what do I
gotta do to get an I they if you're famous
(20:21):
and talent, you don't have to do much. You just
have to do the trick. You just got to be
funny when the when it's time to be funny, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
With your resume and your talent and all the things
that you've done, and how funny you are, do you
feel like you look you get overlooked a lot by
the public, like you should be a bigger comedian because,
like you said, the years that you put in this industry,
from writing, from being on stage, from telling jokes all that.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Uh, you know, I don't I could say yes or
no because I kind of feel like there's no one
who I feel like I deserve there. I should be
in their place, right, you know what I mean? Like
when so and I also feel like certain people, the
people that are like people that do arenas or whatever,
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it's like they have real, like real performance attributes that
I don't necessarily have, Like they're just really they walk
on stage and you're like, well, this is gonna be
I always tell Kevin Hart he is sunshine. He's sunshine, right.
I direct some of those Chase commercials. You cut to
(21:30):
that motherfucker in a close up. The sun is shining.
It can be an in, it can be in a house.
He's just like, let me tell you something. Royle just
he's Dave is bugs bunny. He just is bugs bunny.
There's nothing you can do about. Chris Rock talks like
a chainsaw, yang ing it like Ellen sounds like a
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flute and and a baby Jerry Seinfeld sounds like a clarinet,
so so all these people it's I mean, and I
clearly I've thought about it, but it's I'm again the
gratitude thing. You've had a great career. Yeah, I've had
a dude, I've had an amazing like, yeah, I have
(22:14):
an announcement to make everybody uh so No, but I
that's the thing is, like I I could focus on,
like what why not? I'm what else? What else? What
would happen? What am I looking for? Like I need
to be on private jets instead of business class? Like
I don't. I'm I'm good Like I don't. I don't
And I'm not saying it like I wouldn't accept it
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or I wouldn't accept a promotion in some ways, but
like I do theaters. I've come on here, people watch it,
and I yeah, it's I. I appreciate the question, but but
I and and I was kind of hung up on
that for a long time, but the last six months
to a year just been like this is amazing, Like
(23:00):
I'm either in the ring or I have ringside seats,
gotch for for for life. It's not like forever, but
like so far, you know, I.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Don't know if people know what Neil used to be called.
You call him the Black comic whisperer, because you were
in all like the legendary black comics ears the chapels
to the rocks, Right. So when you see everything that's
been going on with black comedians this year, all started
by the club Cat Williams composition, What.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Are your thoughts? I always say Cat Williams is the
most Cat Williams on a podcast or a show is
like Mike Tyson in the late eighties, where it's the
most exciting ninety seconds in sports. We're like, God, damn,
like you cut, he is gonna make some shit happen.
(23:50):
He is like what they in basketball, what they call
instant offense, Like put him in, He's getting his shot off.
So I don't. I mean, Kat's hilarious and the and
some of the people e centrically entertain as one of
the funniest people I've ever been around. Like some of
the people he dissed, I'm like, I just disagree with
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his his appraisal of them, and and almost like I
everyone he talked about was really funny. And Cat's great
and all the people he went after were great and
I'm sorry that's he felt that that's how a hit
needed to do it. But I'm gonna as I'm gonna
take my white ass out of it.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Where do white comedians go to start beefs like that?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Is it rogan? Uh? A little bit? Yeah, it's I
think it's a little it's it's it's caddy, But I
think it's more. I think I want to I don't
want to say like we keep it private, charlot man,
but I I can't remember a time where there was
like shots fired like that, Like I don't it's just
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it didn't seem but I but it was. If you're
asking me, did I watch it twice? I did? Kat
on clubs?
Speaker 3 (25:05):
What are your thoughts on comedians critiquing other comedians about
two things in particular, One whether or not another comedian
is funny, and two this I think it's to me,
it's kind of a new phenomenon comedian saying other comedians
are making offensive jokes.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
The offensive thing is again, why are you asking the
clowns for It's like, it's like, why are you going
to clowns for morality? You know, it's like eating a
Snickers and being like this is very nutritious. No shit,
it's a Snickers bar. I don't think. I think if
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a comic criticized another comedian's morality, the critic probably isn't
very funny. That'd be my first guess. And and in
the I just think it's a I think it's bad.
If you got something a problem with somebody, I would
just say, like, address it directly or leave it, because
(26:00):
I don't. I there's plenty people I think are shitty
at comedy. I just don't. I just avoid him, or
I say, like, you know, you did your thing something vague,
but I don't. But I would never criticize somebody in
public that I can. I'm sure I have, but I
try to avoid it if I can.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Yeah, were talking about that this week with girod call
Michael Dave Chapelle because he said Reside was saying, you know,
Dave's whole legacy is transgender jokes, and then he said
Dave the ego maniac. But then literally and I said,
I said, you should not criticize the comedian about anything
offensive because it can happen to you in a second.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
And literally less than twelve.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Hours later, they were on Gerard about what he said
on his HBO show, and you know being a.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Role playing slave in Master. Well, yeah, it's like it's
like me too, and somebody it's like, I don't you
can you can get popped. We can all get popped
for tons of anything. If you've been doing it long enough,
like you did a p you don't even We all
do so many podcasts you don't ever remember, and then
someone can remember. Then you're like, no, but that is
my I guess I said that. So that's the thing
(27:05):
of like casting the first stone. Like you, it's a
dangerous game because everyone it's like mutually assured destruction basically
once you start, uh yeah, point fingers, it's it's it's
gonna be Spider Man in any any minute. You know.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Bill Burd spoke about being on Chappelle Show back in
the day.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Did you know.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
That all of those guys, the Birds, the Rogans, the
Donnelle role and Charlie Murphy, did you know all of
these people would end up being what's up for Donnelle
icons in their own right?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Did I picked a Donell?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
No, I'm focusing on the with the bento. Oh was
that Ashley? That's hilarious? Was he wearing Timberland's all right, great,
he looks like he doesn't look like that, but I
like how fatt he is. It really captures his dowiness.
The the yeah. I mean, I remember when Bill auditioned
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and Dave was like, thank god he can act because
that dude's really funny, and Charlie and yeah, dude, I
if I all I remember about doing the show is
it was very hard, but it was very gratifying to
be able to have like small ideas with me and
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Dave and then being able to expand them because the Charlie,
I don't have ever told you that, but like me
and Dave wrote Half Baked, we turned it in right
In nineteen ninety seven, we have a celebratory mushroom night.
And this is when I wasn't using medicine for healing.
(28:44):
It was back when I was just using it the
party baby, and we have we do mushrooms. Go to
club and I see Dave talking to this guy and
I'm like, is it like Eddie Murphy's brother, like fat brother?
And then I go over and it's Charlie. I didn't
know him. And Charlie's like, I'm on mushrooms and Charlie's
like holding court, like me and my brother came out here,
(29:06):
did it. It was the only real motherfucker's here and did
it Jared Carles and and uh and then and he
kept talking about Hollywood and and Charlie was going, there's
poison and ice cream. This motherfucker this poison and ice cream.
So then me and they would say there's poison and
ice cream for like years. Then we were writing that
real World sketch and we were like, you know, we
(29:26):
should get for this, We should get uh Charlie Murphy
to see if he can do it. And then based
on doing shrooms with them five years earlier and being like,
it's something about that guy. Wow, So I guess there
and then and then snowballed into and then he tells
the Rick James story, He tells the Prince story, He
and and uh, and then it just became it changed
(29:50):
all of our lives. So it's you know, it's like
taking taking credit for it seems wrong because it's we
all got we we all got so much from it
from having him on the show. He tells the story
that my life it's like, you know, before and after
that sketch ry like I could almost tell you the
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date it was twenty years ago, like recently. Could a
show like that exist ever? Again? I think you could
probably figure out a way to do the sketches, but
in terms of impact everything, so it was one it
was like one funnel, like culture was one funnel, and
(30:34):
so you would get it, like go to the funnel
and get what came out. And now there's there's you know,
a million funnels on all of our phone so you
just go like I subscribed to forty funnels and then
you But it used to be like do you there
was only one place to go or three places to go,
so we were we were, we were. I guess Comedy
(30:57):
Center wasn't like as big before Chappelle's, but but it
was always big. And then yeah, so I don't You
could probably do the sketches, but I don't think it
would have the the thing where everyone's watching it, you know,
I don't think. Do you guys think it depends who
the talent is? Yea, yeah, yeah, it's it's possible, but
(31:20):
but it's unlikely. Like yeah, okay, now Dave always says
like people are probably not going to be famous again
the same way I was duh, No, way, that's been
I know, but it is an interesting thing of like
why not and you go cause it's you can't. It's
the funnel problem. Yeah, you know what I mean. Like
I was, you know, Mike Myers, Like I was talking
(31:41):
to Mike Myers the community and we were talking about
showbiz and he was he was talking about shows and
I as he was talking, I was like, in one decade,
Mike Myers was Wayne from Wayne's World, Shrek, Doctor Evil,
and Austin Powers. You can run president one guy. Wow,
(32:02):
one guy, He's Canadian, one guy in ten years into
like damn so that and he goes, Yeah, it was
a monoculture and now it's like sort of more of
a free for all. Eighties ninety celebrity is so powerful.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Literally you can get elected president of the United States
of America. Yeah, it's a different level of celebrity. Yeah, black,
all white, No, it's just a different level of celebrity.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah, it is like the last of the like Tom Cruise, yes, Madonna,
as I saw you two with the sphere like they're
real and they sold seven hundred and fifty thousand tickets
in two months. It's like that's a a lot of
tickets des White.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
It was real fandom, real talent, and the barrier of
entry was way more difficult to get in any of
these spaces.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah, you had to You had to
be talented or you had to be like because I
don't think Madonna or Tom Cruise are the most but
they're really good at like they don't Madonnas doesn't have
the best singing voice, hump Cruse probably doesn't have the
best acting instrument, but like they figured they were good.
(33:08):
They took the job seriously. Like Tom Cruise is like
like jumping rope before, you know, like doing shit to
make himself last movie, did his own studs. Yeah he's crazy. Yep.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
You was talking about comedians with morals, right, and we
shouldn't go to the clowns.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah, for morality, But what about Kevin Hartnell? Degitenerous? What
about him?
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Because you said that they and especially you said that
they have to be they have to be great humanitarians
and role models.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
What I'm saying is they they're expected to be, but
it's not. But it's not a realistic expectation. That's what
I have a joke in the special about keV where
like I had a handyman at my house. It was like,
do you know Kevin Harden? I was like, yeah, he
goes Is he humble? And I was like, you're a handyman,
you're not humble? Like why does Kevin have to be humble?
(33:58):
What he was asking me is, hey, Neil, is that
five foot three billionaire humble? What do you think? How
hum many think Kevin Hard is on a scale from
Napoleon to Tom Cruise. If you had to guess, why
are you looking to Kevin Hart for humility? What he
tries to be?
Speaker 3 (34:15):
To your point when you said, when you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Kevin's I would I would like you we all know Kevin.
Kevin's a good dude, but he's not humble, nord should he?
Why does he have to be humble?
Speaker 3 (34:27):
He's not a different records around your peers, but to
people he's humble To people, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
He's a nice guy. Well, because they can all throw
him in the trash. He's tiny. Uh, he has to
be humby. He's just for security.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Because even with keV, keV does things that I think
other people in this situation wouldn't do. Kevin's still come
back and touch places that other comedian.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Kevin's a great I really mean that when like, Kev's
a great dude. But like this expectation that celebrities have
to be moral, it's just like a fake. It's a
just moving the goalpost. I'm not saying I'm not saying
they should be able to break laws or any of
that stuff. But I'm just saying I think it's a
fake expectation based on somebody. Because you're doing well, then
(35:15):
people go, well, then are you nice? You know what
I mean? Like, sometimes are you nice? I'm nice? Sometimes
it's a human being. Yeah, It's why there's churches on
every corner because we're not nice, you know what I mean,
Like you just because we need constant reminders of like,
don't murder. Look at this, don't murder. And you're like, okay, yeah,
(35:38):
you're right, I shouldn't murder. But we need constant reminders.
And the expectations that they they'll come from clowns is
a bit like come on, come on, there's other there's
it's it's not it should not be our responsibility. It's
a it's a it's a failure of priests, mom's clergy,
you know, like and and politicians and because they couldn't
(36:03):
keep their ticks in their pants. And so now it's like, well,
all right, ship, who else we got that? Allen seems
pretty you know what I mean? Who else? You know,
Joe your next man. They're gonna start looking for you
from morality. Oh they've been please you think? No, no, no,
I'm not funny enough.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
I think I I put it out there enough, Like
I want to.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
I don't want to. I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
I don't want that. I want to be the bad guy.
You do want to be the bad guy, not personally,
but to your point, I want you just to look
at me as a human being.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
So if you look at me the human being, I'm
gonna make mistakes. I'm not gonna always get things right.
I'm not gonna always say the right thing. I might
piss you off because you know, especially with us right
and Neil is a huge mental health advocate as well.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Anytime you're a.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Person that is always on a healing journey and you
talk about your mental health, they want us to do
everything perfect.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
That's right. I can't say anything yeah too wrong?
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Yeah you know, aren't you supposed to be a mental
health guy?
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Yeah? But like I still like fucking or whatever, like yeah,
I don't, yeah, but you're right, it does become I'm
worried that people are gonna be like, well, how could
you say that athletes don't want good you don't want
a good mental health because I don't because I'm a person.
I'm selfish. I want a good game and that you're
gonna have good games when everyone's fucking out of their minds.
(37:29):
That's true. It's like, I don't you know what, sports
was invented to train the military between wars. So that's yes,
that's how in like in in ancient Greece like two
three thousand years ago, it was between wars that were
like we need to get the army to be able
(37:50):
to do like to train between and they didn't have
the ropes and all that shit, so they would like
do battles or whatever. So so that's what that's what
the whole thing is like an analogous of it's like
a proxy for war. So it's like Cleveland versus or
the Clippers versus or whoever versus whoever, or or or
(38:12):
Kansas City, and you're really you know, at the least
these people.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Are our lovers of violence, right, yeah, like, at least
they're massacres. If you're a football player, boxer, you see,
at the least you're a massacre.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Well, I bet that they're more sadists than massacre. They
like whooping ass more than they like in their ass
whooped massacrets like it in their asshoo.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
But even if you're a running back, you still know
you're gonna get hit, so you still have to kind
of like the pain.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Right, you know what I mean? Well, you right, But
you know, people they like her, Yeah, they like it's
like hurt or be hurt. There. It's a lot of aggression.
And what I would say is like people's need for
aggression and people's kind of unhealthy need for status is
(39:02):
the greatest economic driver in world history. Damn, I really,
you know what I mean, every great everyone on this
wall didn't do it for the right reasons. They did
it because they wanted a come up. They wanted I'm
sick of being treated like garbage and I'm sick and
(39:22):
i'm i'm I know, I'm more special than this. So
so that they went out of the they moved from
wherever they were to do a thing that would get
them status and they could like you know what, I
am great, I am. I do deserve exaltation. That's inventors,
that's I mean, inventors are all there because they got it.
(39:44):
They're trying to get some pussy. Like it's a long
term pussy plan. That's kind of true. Not a lot
of women down to the patent office. They don't need
to do it. They don't need to invent stuff. They'll
just wait year rounds guys the event stuff get like
guys that are like three out of ten you invented
(40:07):
Elon Musk. You see that WHLD picture and when he
had bad hair. He's fat though, it's like the guy
did it for for to get people to get women.
I mean not exactly, but like that's the whole that's
like the primal urge. That's the when you watch the
Facebook movie.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
That's the whole premise of the movie.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Yeah yeah, yeah, So I'm not even mad at it.
It's just don't break laws, gotch But you can be
broaden your whatever, Just don't break laws.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
That's all Crazy Good is streaming now that.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
We're saying all that to say, yes, watch Neil Brennan
Crazy out right now.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Make sure you go check it out.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
On Netflix and appreciate that. Neil's podcast to Man the Blocks,
Thanks everybody, anything else, Neil Nah thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Absolutely, It's Neil Brennan.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
It's the Breakfast Cloud, good Morning
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Wake that hands up in the morning, The Breakfast Club,
Wake that answer up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Breakfast Club Morning, everybody is DJ Envy, Jessa, Larry Isshelaman
the guy we ought to Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed,
Neil Brennan. Welcome back. Yeah, gonna be here.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
It was back with another special called crazy Good.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Neil is one of the.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Last of the comedians who actually make special special.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Thank you for Searla Man, thank you for noticing, and
thank you for dissing most of my peers, both at
the same time. Yeah, why not get your man, You
can do both hit it.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Do you feel less pressure of putting this one out
versus the others?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Like the Blocks three mics, this one is not If
you thought the other ones were on some emo bullshit,
I hear you. This one has no emo ness to
it at all. It's just like fifty three minutes of
like this is me, like sprinting. I like them. I
know I do too, But there are people that are like, nah, yeah,
(00:57):
my man was a little too little, too incher. I
don't have a problem with that.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Somebody else, you know, somebody said that to me about
Bill Burr recently. They was like, Bill might be doing
a little too much.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
There, you know. Well, I watched him on here and
it was funny to see him be like that because
it's so not what he's been like. But I but
I Bill was sort of weirdly the inspiration for three
mics in a weird way because he had done a
thing called The Moth and he talked about emotional stuff.
So so I just but I just did two of them.
And the other thing is like I feel better, I
(01:29):
don't feel depressed anymore. So I didn't. I wasn't going
to force it. A dude, I did the show, I
did crazy good in DC, and a dude DM me
afterward and was like, I kept waiting for you to
show up because he was basically saying like, why weren't
you sad? So I have an announcement at the beginning
(01:52):
of the show like, Hey, I'm not sad, so just
enjoy yourself. Let me let me ask you a question.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
What got you out of that sad.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Because you've been up here several times? Yeah, you had
a total different light, different space. And I was like,
Neil Brendan's not sad today, He's.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Not down, He's not Neil Brennan, sir.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I said Neil nick no, I said, so what got
you into this? What got you into this new space?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Uh? Well I call it plant medicine. The cops call
them drugs, Okay. Uh. Honestly, the thing I talked about
before ayahuasca. Uh, this thing called d M T, which
I don't recommend, but it was it kind of broke
(02:38):
my brain and then it re congealed into something better.
And then this past year M d M A has
been really good for if you do M d M
A in a non party space, it can be Uh,
it can, it can. In my ex as, it was
(03:00):
a god connection that ecstasy.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
So what made you think you needed that?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Like? What got you to the point where let me
try ihascle because I because I tried zoloft, I tried,
I tried everything, and uh and it was kind of
working and this was it was just it was kind
of a hail Mary, like let's see and uh. And
the funny thing is people can tell like when you're like,
(03:29):
Neil's not that yeah, Like I'm just kind of different.
I'm wearing orange. I mean, come on, but I am
like energetically I'm different and it's due to that. And
then I've just gotten a lot of like it's the
corniest shit in the world, but like gratitude, you've been
(03:49):
doing You've been on gratitude a long time. Absolutely. I
was talking to buddy of mine about how how I
I was, like, I was doing like a gratitude checklist.
I would do it once a day and I would
just go over the facts of my life because our
brains kind of write sci fi about like so and
sows out to get you and she hates you, and
(04:10):
this and that and but none almost none of it's true.
And so I would do a gratitude checklist of like
the facts of my life, like you are a successful comedian,
you have three Netflix specials, you're you know, you have
a commitment to growth, you're curious, you're intelligent, you know,
all like at positive attributes. And then a buddy mine
was and we were talking about Islam, and I go,
(04:31):
Islam's got it right where they're like they pray five
times a day, like you kind of need to. And
he goes, well, why don't you gratitude five times a day?
And I was like, Okay, So I've been doing that
and I don't always get to five, but but I've
been doing that for the last four or five months,
and it's been it's been great. So you find something
to be thankful full five times a day. Yeah, I
(04:51):
just do kind of the same list five times a day.
Yea of like the facts of my life, Like I'm
a health I mean, anyone that can hear this, things
are going pretty well. Even though if you're having a
bad day or you're in debt or like, there are
things that are negative. But like if you live in
a in a world where you can watch this or
(05:11):
hear this, things are better for you than they are
for a lot of the world.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Do things check off on the you own waking up
mm hmm and making it home safely at night, that
is a very under appreciation. It's a very unappreciated blessing
to make it home at night.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, everybody and make it home like either they not
like they a lot of people die in work. No,
but I'm saying, like you be aware, but like people die,
just stuff that's real basics, right, you forget and if
you can, I've And it's it's like I said, it's
so corny, but like it's effective just doing just remembering
(05:53):
how fortunate you are.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I was gonna ask, you know, will you ever fearful
of losing their quote unquote touch right when you have
a speak sometimes rapers, it'd be like, I don't want
to give up the lean because that's I think that
helps me write better.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Did you ever feel like if I go through what.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I'm going through, the aahuasc whatever you trying to get,
you know, over that that bump, that hump, that you
would lose your touch.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
As a comedian the genius?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I don't really there. I'm two minds about it, which
is one of them is I don't It's a reflex
at this point, like I've been known this like thirty years,
so if a news story happens, I can kind of
like you know, and uh, and if I lose it,
I had a good run, like I've started. Half Bay
(06:37):
came out twenty seven years ago, so no, I know,
so like I've been I wrote for all that on Nickelodeon,
like I've been out here, wrote I was, yes, I
was fighting the molesters, and uh, like I've been doing
this a long ass time. So if it, if it,
if I, if I lose the touch, I lose the touch.
(07:00):
But what what I found is the touch is a
reflex at this point, like I can just I just
my brain does it out of the touch? Did you
see any of that, Nickelodeon, thank you for bringing that up.
I didn't see any of it, trum Mane, But but
I am against it, so I hope. So now we're
(07:23):
on the record, and hopefully this will hold up in court.
Jesus Christy, No, I didn't see that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Now, all your specials have a great name, but it's
not just names. If you've seen through mics, you know
why it's called through micros. Have you've seen blocks, you
know why it's called blocks. I'm assuming crazy good is
just crazy good.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Uh, crazy good is actually okay. So one of the
parts of the special is making fun of the commodification
of mental health, like making fun of TikTok psychology and
all that, and so I'm not against it, but I
just feel like the amount of people making videos about
(08:08):
trauma and and uh and all the diagnoses of like
you're being gasolt, just all that stuff is so aggravating.
It's so aggravating, and it's also dishonest because none of
these people have any idea what they're talking about. They
just hurt it on another TikTok. So I'm basically toward
the end. I'm saying, you know you're you do go
(08:32):
to therapy, take medication, do I do all the stuff
you gotta do, But just know that most of the
great things in life are from psychopaths and drug addicts.
Damn Jesus. I mean, if I'm wrong, let me know.
What's it? All right? All the all? The inventor Sigmund
Freud open coke head. Most of Freud's books should be
(08:54):
called this maybe the Cocaine talking like there he was
a coke head. Uh yeah, women are jealous of our dicks. Yeah,
like it's real. KOCHI shit, Edison did coke. The Wright Brothers,
I don't know if they were on coke, but like
I mean or on math, but they had the metheist idea,
which is like, hey, do you fucking feel like you
(09:14):
can fly? The all like the modern inventors elon musk
o something, yeah, ketamine or he's just out of his mind,
And then I get into like what about musicians? Okay,
The Rolling Stones had, in order to tour America, had
(09:36):
to get a doctor to test them for drugs every day,
and the doctor lasted six weeks before he got hooked
on cocaine. Yeah, like yeah, hip hop, lean weed weed. Yeah.
So so you know, there's just like there's and then
(10:00):
I do comedians, Well, why are you guys all psychopathic
and drug addicts? I'm like, so far Richard Pryor drug addict,
George Carlin drug addict, Bill Cosby, choose your own adventure.
The modern ones like you know, Lenny Bruce a drug addict.
John Belushi's a drug addict. John mulaney told me to
(10:21):
remind people he's a drug addict in the bed like
people were all something. So I'm not saying don't treat it.
I'm not saying, you know, ride it, but I'm just
saying the audience needs to accept that where we're not.
The other thing that's been happening is like comedians are
(10:43):
like moral leaders, you know, like Dave or being a kid.
It's like why it's they're these serious issues and like
transgender rights and stuff, and then how bankrupt are others
segments of society that they finally were like, well what
do the clowns think? Why are you asking us what
(11:07):
we think about these This should have never gotten to
our desk. It's for politicians and clergy and other leaders,
but like, don't turn to Joe Rogan for vaccine advice. Yeah,
I think there's one though.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
I would say when I watched George Carlin, now he
was very prophetic.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, yes, yeah, but he also I can name a
bunch of real dark shit, Like he had a bit
about Blamia rich bitch, won't eat fuck her. Not exactly
the most ethical take he had, you know, he went
both ways. So again they were they we can be that,
(11:55):
but the no one moves out to LA to be righteous.
Everyone moves out there would be funny and famous, you know.
And it's the same thing with like is Ellen nice?
Is Ellen? And I'm like, first of all, Ellen's hilarious
he and b she's a gay right icon, Like like,
(12:17):
I don't I don't need her to be. She came
out on television, got kicked off television for being gay,
and then came back and dominated. But that's not enough
for people. They're like, yeah, but is she nice? It's
so childish. It's like being like, is my car also
a boat? Just appreciate that you have a car? Also
is Ellen nice? How many nice lesbians have you ever met?
Your entire life? You know what I mean. I say,
(12:39):
we don't talk about toxic studs enough. I say it often.
I know, step up toxics, toxic studs. I wonder what.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Comedians right becuse they always talk about the trauma that
comedians have experienced. I wonder if it is the expectation
of always having to make people laugh, you know a
psycho that is to get on stage in front of hundreds,
thousands of people and say I'm going to make them last.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah, it's a very hard job. Yes, it's a very
hard job, and it's a very weird job. Well how
do you do it on the Daily Show? How do
you do meaning the difference between this and that?
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Well, because number one, I don't approach it from a
comediance perspective because I'm not a comedian.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
And number thank you thank you for saying that.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yes I hate when they say that, but the Daily
Show allows me to go in death on things I
might just touch here on the surface.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
But are you do you worry about getting laughs?
Speaker 3 (13:39):
No? I rather really I'm also I'm more so concerned
with just saying something because that's when I look at
the Daily Show, that's the type of institution.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
That it is.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I'm more so concerned about saying something that I know
people are going to actually being formed by and take
something away from and be like, oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
But you don't want to do that thing where you
do what might have been a punchline and you hear
that air can conditioning unit in the background, you're like.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Oh, oh, okay, I feel like I do that anyway
naturally though, I feel like, you know, you have to
use humor to push push things along.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Right, But there it's sort of like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
metered for laugh. So I'm just wondering if you get
it's not scared but like a little bit like you're yeah,
scared kids, Yeah, yes, And and do you change your approach?
You just read what's on the you write it, read
what's on the problem.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yeah, because I might be a psychopath or some type
of sociopaths. You know, you're going to either get the
laugh or you're going to feel the pain of not right.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
That's the other thing is like, I don't you know
a lot of people. It's I have a hugehunk about
athletes too, because we want, you know, good mental health
and sports. And I'm like, you know, I want good
mental health for everybody, but not athletes, Like we need
our athletes to be psychos? What we I repeat myself,
(15:00):
and we need our athletes to be Did you see
the last dance? Did Michael Jordan seem mentally healthy to
you in the slightest giant mansion? One chair? Come on, guys, Uh,
he's out of his mind. So what I'm saying punching
Steve Kerr? And then I don't care. And then people
are like, well, he's you know, he's an angry guy.
(15:21):
He's not a great husband or that. I was like, well,
I'm not married to him. I don't give a shit.
Be as long as you don't break the law, you
can be as rotten to the people around you as well.
Lebron said on his podcast the other day, in order
to be great, you have to hurt your loved ones. Yeah,
and that's what the gambit is. All these people, any
(15:43):
great athlete is Tom Brady is out of his mind.
It's like you couldn't even be retired. Made it like
ten days and it was like, I don't know these
fucking kids, like you can't like you don't know all
any great is out of their mind. And I don't
even get into like OJM I'm talking about just like MJ.
Lebron's a little something right if he's saying in public,
(16:04):
you have to hurt your family like Lance Armstrong. The
joke I did on the show was like, I don't
even consider Lance Armstrong an athlete. I consider Lance Armstrong
a criminal who found a bike. Like that guy is
a criminal. He think about the worst lie you ever told,
and then imagine selling bracelets about it. This guy's gone
(16:29):
tiger Tiger. I mean that dude, he's like he's he's
tokyo drifting at six thirty in the morning. These guys
are wired to and by the way, the women are too.
Like the gymnastics girls. We don't give those girls enough credit, man,
Like that's a crazy thing they're doing, a lot of
(16:52):
them are getting paid, a lot of them. We're getting
sexually abuse, which is insane. And you got to get
it right, be first time, and you gotta stick the
landing or you're not. You ain't getting no wheaties. You
ain't getting the cover of wheaties with the wobbly landing.
You gotta nail it. The figure skating girls, they look
like they're in trouble, like they've First of all, it
(17:15):
looks like they've never even seen makeup when they it's
like when they do the thing the routine, and they
gotta like they've never it's like their first day with
makeup like Daldaldall, Daldaldall Shock Horror like there, and then
they gotta they and then they gotta they do like
the hologram thing, uh, and then they gotta finish and
(17:38):
sit in the booth with their kidnappers at the end.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
I wonder if it's people being mentally unwell, are people
are really using their brains? And what I mean by
that is if you decide that, you know, you want
to wake up every day and just do the same
routine over and over, it doesn't really take much brain function.
But people that are really having to open up their
brains and use their minds, it's just using their brain
(18:06):
to that fullest extent.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Does that just make you feel drive you crazy? I'll
make you seehim crazy? I don't I think that you know.
The joke I did in the show is it's like
when you're doing a video when you're making a video
game character, you have like one hundred points for like
you know, dexterity and speed, and all that stuff. It's like,
that's kind of what God does, and sometimes he just
(18:29):
gets the calibration wrong, you know what I mean. Like
with when God was making Woody Allen, they were like
how many He was like, how many points should we
give him for comedy and filmmaking. He's like, fuck it,
give him a hundred. And then they were like, but
that's not gonna make points for not fucking his family,
and uh, I think that would be low emotional, Like you, well, yeah,
(18:52):
that's a nice way to put it. Uh, that's what
that's what the charges were. He low emotionally, I can't. Yeah.
Like so I just think if you're you're good at
one thing, it's so weird. If you can rhyme good,
it's like wrap that's in your brain. Most people's brains
don't come up with couplets like that. Most people don't
(19:13):
see the world analytically. Most people don't see let alone analytically,
and uh, you know, funnily so it's just you're gonna
be deficient in other areas as long as you're not
breaking the law.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Do you think it's the gifts that make you shitty
or the world that comes with the gifts?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Oh, being a shitty person.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I think, oh when you I mean, I think you
have the gift, but it's I think it's the world
to access the power the money.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah, I think I think it. It's hard. I can't
think of many people that have been made. You have
to make a real effort to uh stay centered with
all the because it just becomes like if everywhere you
go people say you're in great shape, You're never going
to go to the gym. I mean so if everyone's like,
(20:01):
oh and anything for you, sir or miss or whatever,
it's like you're just not. It's people will only be
as good as they have to be. That's been my experience.
It's like if or if you demand it of them,
then they'll do it. But people will naturally do as
little as they It's like homework, Like what do I
gotta do to get an I they if you're famous
(20:21):
and talent, you don't have to do much. You just
have to do the trick. You just got to be
funny when the when it's time to be funny, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
With your resume and your talent and all the things
that you've done, and how funny you are, do you
feel like you look you get overlooked a lot by
the public, like you should be a bigger comedian because,
like you said, the years that you put in this industry,
from writing, from being on stage, from telling jokes all that.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Uh, you know, I don't I could say yes or
no because I kind of feel like there's no one
who I feel like I deserve there. I should be
in their place, right, you know what I mean? Like
when so and I also feel like certain people, the
people that are like people that do arenas or whatever,
(21:09):
it's like they have real, like real performance attributes that
I don't necessarily have, Like they're just really they walk
on stage and you're like, well, this is gonna be
I always tell Kevin Hart he is sunshine. He's sunshine, right.
I direct some of those Chase commercials. You cut to
(21:30):
that motherfucker in a close up. The sun is shining.
It can be an in, it can be in a house.
He's just like, let me tell you something. Royle just
he's Dave is bugs bunny. He just is bugs bunny.
There's nothing you can do about. Chris Rock talks like
a chainsaw, yang ing it like Ellen sounds like a
(21:53):
flute and and a baby Jerry Seinfeld sounds like a clarinet,
so so all these people it's I mean, and I
clearly I've thought about it, but it's I'm again the
gratitude thing. You've had a great career. Yeah, I've had
a dude, I've had an amazing like, yeah, I have
(22:14):
an announcement to make everybody uh so No, but I
that's the thing is, like I I could focus on,
like what why not? I'm what else? What else? What
would happen? What am I looking for? Like I need
to be on private jets instead of business class? Like
I don't. I'm I'm good Like I don't. I don't
And I'm not saying it like I wouldn't accept it
(22:37):
or I wouldn't accept a promotion in some ways, but
like I do theaters. I've come on here, people watch it,
and I yeah, it's I. I appreciate the question, but but
I and and I was kind of hung up on
that for a long time, but the last six months
to a year just been like this is amazing, Like
(23:00):
I'm either in the ring or I have ringside seats,
gotch for for for life. It's not like forever, but
like so far, you know, I.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Don't know if people know what Neil used to be called.
You call him the Black comic whisperer, because you were
in all like the legendary black comics ears the chapels
to the rocks, Right. So when you see everything that's
been going on with black comedians this year, all started
by the club Cat Williams composition, What.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Are your thoughts? I always say Cat Williams is the
most Cat Williams on a podcast or a show is
like Mike Tyson in the late eighties, where it's the
most exciting ninety seconds in sports. We're like, God, damn,
like you cut, he is gonna make some shit happen.
(23:50):
He is like what they in basketball, what they call
instant offense, Like put him in, He's getting his shot off.
So I don't. I mean, Kat's hilarious and the and
some of the people e centrically entertain as one of
the funniest people I've ever been around. Like some of
the people he dissed, I'm like, I just disagree with
(24:12):
his his appraisal of them, and and almost like I
everyone he talked about was really funny. And Cat's great
and all the people he went after were great and
I'm sorry that's he felt that that's how a hit
needed to do it. But I'm gonna as I'm gonna
take my white ass out of it.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Where do white comedians go to start beefs like that?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Is it rogan? Uh? A little bit? Yeah, it's I
think it's a little it's it's it's caddy, But I
think it's more. I think I want to I don't
want to say like we keep it private, charlot man,
but I I can't remember a time where there was
like shots fired like that, Like I don't it's just
(24:59):
it didn't seem but I but it was. If you're
asking me, did I watch it twice? I did? Kat
on clubs?
Speaker 3 (25:05):
What are your thoughts on comedians critiquing other comedians about
two things in particular, One whether or not another comedian
is funny, and two this I think it's to me,
it's kind of a new phenomenon comedian saying other comedians
are making offensive jokes.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
The offensive thing is again, why are you asking the
clowns for It's like, it's like, why are you going
to clowns for morality? You know, it's like eating a
Snickers and being like this is very nutritious. No shit,
it's a Snickers bar. I don't think. I think if
(25:40):
a comic criticized another comedian's morality, the critic probably isn't
very funny. That'd be my first guess. And and in
the I just think it's a I think it's bad.
If you got something a problem with somebody, I would
just say, like, address it directly or leave it, because
(26:00):
I don't. I there's plenty people I think are shitty
at comedy. I just don't. I just avoid him, or
I say, like, you know, you did your thing something vague,
but I don't. But I would never criticize somebody in
public that I can. I'm sure I have, but I
try to avoid it if I can.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Yeah, were talking about that this week with girod call
Michael Dave Chapelle because he said Reside was saying, you know,
Dave's whole legacy is transgender jokes, and then he said
Dave the ego maniac. But then literally and I said,
I said, you should not criticize the comedian about anything
offensive because it can happen to you in a second.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
And literally less than twelve.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Hours later, they were on Gerard about what he said
on his HBO show, and you know being a.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Role playing slave in Master. Well, yeah, it's like it's
like me too, and somebody it's like, I don't you
can you can get popped. We can all get popped
for tons of anything. If you've been doing it long enough,
like you did a p you don't even We all
do so many podcasts you don't ever remember, and then
someone can remember. Then you're like, no, but that is
my I guess I said that. So that's the thing
(27:05):
of like casting the first stone. Like you, it's a
dangerous game because everyone it's like mutually assured destruction basically
once you start, uh yeah, point fingers, it's it's it's
gonna be Spider Man in any any minute. You know.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Bill Burd spoke about being on Chappelle Show back in
the day.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Did you know.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
That all of those guys, the Birds, the Rogans, the
Donnelle role and Charlie Murphy, did you know all of
these people would end up being what's up for Donnelle
icons in their own right?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Did I picked a Donell?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
No, I'm focusing on the with the bento. Oh was
that Ashley? That's hilarious? Was he wearing Timberland's all right, great,
he looks like he doesn't look like that, but I
like how fatt he is. It really captures his dowiness.
The the yeah. I mean, I remember when Bill auditioned
(28:01):
and Dave was like, thank god he can act because
that dude's really funny, and Charlie and yeah, dude, I
if I all I remember about doing the show is
it was very hard, but it was very gratifying to
be able to have like small ideas with me and
(28:22):
Dave and then being able to expand them because the Charlie,
I don't have ever told you that, but like me
and Dave wrote Half Baked, we turned it in right
In nineteen ninety seven, we have a celebratory mushroom night.
And this is when I wasn't using medicine for healing.
(28:44):
It was back when I was just using it the
party baby, and we have we do mushrooms. Go to
club and I see Dave talking to this guy and
I'm like, is it like Eddie Murphy's brother, like fat brother?
And then I go over and it's Charlie. I didn't
know him. And Charlie's like, I'm on mushrooms and Charlie's
like holding court, like me and my brother came out here,
(29:06):
did it. It was the only real motherfucker's here and did
it Jared Carles and and uh and then and he
kept talking about Hollywood and and Charlie was going, there's
poison and ice cream. This motherfucker this poison and ice cream.
So then me and they would say there's poison and
ice cream for like years. Then we were writing that
real World sketch and we were like, you know, we
(29:26):
should get for this, We should get uh Charlie Murphy
to see if he can do it. And then based
on doing shrooms with them five years earlier and being like,
it's something about that guy. Wow, So I guess there
and then and then snowballed into and then he tells
the Rick James story, He tells the Prince story, He
and and uh, and then it just became it changed
(29:50):
all of our lives. So it's you know, it's like
taking taking credit for it seems wrong because it's we
all got we we all got so much from it
from having him on the show. He tells the story
that my life it's like, you know, before and after
that sketch ry like I could almost tell you the
(30:12):
date it was twenty years ago, like recently. Could a
show like that exist ever? Again? I think you could
probably figure out a way to do the sketches, but
in terms of impact everything, so it was one it
was like one funnel, like culture was one funnel, and
(30:34):
so you would get it, like go to the funnel
and get what came out. And now there's there's you know,
a million funnels on all of our phone so you
just go like I subscribed to forty funnels and then
you But it used to be like do you there
was only one place to go or three places to go,
so we were we were, we were. I guess Comedy
(30:57):
Center wasn't like as big before Chappelle's, but but it
was always big. And then yeah, so I don't You
could probably do the sketches, but I don't think it
would have the the thing where everyone's watching it, you know,
I don't think. Do you guys think it depends who
the talent is? Yea, yeah, yeah, it's it's possible, but
(31:20):
but it's unlikely. Like yeah, okay, now Dave always says
like people are probably not going to be famous again
the same way I was duh, No, way, that's been
I know, but it is an interesting thing of like
why not and you go cause it's you can't. It's
the funnel problem. Yeah, you know what I mean. Like
I was, you know, Mike Myers, Like I was talking
(31:41):
to Mike Myers the community and we were talking about
showbiz and he was he was talking about shows and
I as he was talking, I was like, in one decade,
Mike Myers was Wayne from Wayne's World, Shrek, Doctor Evil,
and Austin Powers. You can run president one guy. Wow,
(32:02):
one guy, He's Canadian, one guy in ten years into
like damn so that and he goes, Yeah, it was
a monoculture and now it's like sort of more of
a free for all. Eighties ninety celebrity is so powerful.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Literally you can get elected president of the United States
of America. Yeah, it's a different level of celebrity. Yeah, black,
all white, No, it's just a different level of celebrity.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah, it is like the last of the like Tom Cruise, yes, Madonna,
as I saw you two with the sphere like they're
real and they sold seven hundred and fifty thousand tickets
in two months. It's like that's a a lot of
tickets des White.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
It was real fandom, real talent, and the barrier of
entry was way more difficult to get in any of
these spaces.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah, you had to You had to
be talented or you had to be like because I
don't think Madonna or Tom Cruise are the most but
they're really good at like they don't Madonnas doesn't have
the best singing voice, hump Cruse probably doesn't have the
best acting instrument, but like they figured they were good.
(33:08):
They took the job seriously. Like Tom Cruise is like
like jumping rope before, you know, like doing shit to
make himself last movie, did his own studs. Yeah he's crazy. Yep.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
You was talking about comedians with morals, right, and we
shouldn't go to the clowns.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah, for morality, But what about Kevin Hartnell? Degitenerous? What
about him?
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Because you said that they and especially you said that
they have to be they have to be great humanitarians
and role models.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
What I'm saying is they they're expected to be, but
it's not. But it's not a realistic expectation. That's what
I have a joke in the special about keV where
like I had a handyman at my house. It was like,
do you know Kevin Harden? I was like, yeah, he
goes Is he humble? And I was like, you're a handyman,
you're not humble? Like why does Kevin have to be humble?
(33:58):
What he was asking me is, hey, Neil, is that
five foot three billionaire humble? What do you think? How
hum many think Kevin Hard is on a scale from
Napoleon to Tom Cruise. If you had to guess, why
are you looking to Kevin Hart for humility? What he
tries to be?
Speaker 3 (34:15):
To your point when you said, when you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Kevin's I would I would like you we all know Kevin.
Kevin's a good dude, but he's not humble, nord should he?
Why does he have to be humble?
Speaker 3 (34:27):
He's not a different records around your peers, but to
people he's humble To people, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
He's a nice guy. Well, because they can all throw
him in the trash. He's tiny. Uh, he has to
be humby. He's just for security.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Because even with keV, keV does things that I think
other people in this situation wouldn't do. Kevin's still come
back and touch places that other comedian.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Kevin's a great I really mean that when like, Kev's
a great dude. But like this expectation that celebrities have
to be moral, it's just like a fake. It's a
just moving the goalpost. I'm not saying I'm not saying
they should be able to break laws or any of
that stuff. But I'm just saying I think it's a
fake expectation based on somebody. Because you're doing well, then
(35:15):
people go, well, then are you nice? You know what
I mean? Like, sometimes are you nice? I'm nice? Sometimes
it's a human being. Yeah, It's why there's churches on
every corner because we're not nice, you know what I mean,
Like you just because we need constant reminders of like,
don't murder. Look at this, don't murder. And you're like, okay, yeah,
(35:38):
you're right, I shouldn't murder. But we need constant reminders.
And the expectations that they they'll come from clowns is
a bit like come on, come on, there's other there's
it's it's not it should not be our responsibility. It's
a it's a it's a failure of priests, mom's clergy,
you know, like and and politicians and because they couldn't
(36:03):
keep their ticks in their pants. And so now it's like, well,
all right, ship, who else we got that? Allen seems
pretty you know what I mean? Who else? You know,
Joe your next man. They're gonna start looking for you
from morality. Oh they've been please you think? No, no, no,
I'm not funny enough.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
I think I I put it out there enough, Like
I want to.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
I don't want to. I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
I don't want that. I want to be the bad guy.
You do want to be the bad guy, not personally,
but to your point, I want you just to look
at me as a human being.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
So if you look at me the human being, I'm
gonna make mistakes. I'm not gonna always get things right.
I'm not gonna always say the right thing. I might
piss you off because you know, especially with us right
and Neil is a huge mental health advocate as well.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Anytime you're a.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Person that is always on a healing journey and you
talk about your mental health, they want us to do
everything perfect.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
That's right. I can't say anything yeah too wrong?
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Yeah you know, aren't you supposed to be a mental
health guy?
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Yeah? But like I still like fucking or whatever, like yeah,
I don't, yeah, but you're right, it does become I'm
worried that people are gonna be like, well, how could
you say that athletes don't want good you don't want
a good mental health because I don't because I'm a person.
I'm selfish. I want a good game and that you're
gonna have good games when everyone's fucking out of their minds.
(37:29):
That's true. It's like, I don't you know what, sports
was invented to train the military between wars. So that's yes,
that's how in like in in ancient Greece like two
three thousand years ago, it was between wars that were
like we need to get the army to be able
(37:50):
to do like to train between and they didn't have
the ropes and all that shit, so they would like
do battles or whatever. So so that's what that's what
the whole thing is like an analogous of it's like
a proxy for war. So it's like Cleveland versus or
the Clippers versus or whoever versus whoever, or or or
(38:12):
Kansas City, and you're really you know, at the least
these people.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Are our lovers of violence, right, yeah, like, at least
they're massacres. If you're a football player, boxer, you see,
at the least you're a massacre.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Well, I bet that they're more sadists than massacre. They
like whooping ass more than they like in their ass
whooped massacrets like it in their asshoo.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
But even if you're a running back, you still know
you're gonna get hit, so you still have to kind
of like the pain.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Right, you know what I mean? Well, you right, But
you know, people they like her, Yeah, they like it's
like hurt or be hurt. There. It's a lot of aggression.
And what I would say is like people's need for
aggression and people's kind of unhealthy need for status is
(39:02):
the greatest economic driver in world history. Damn, I really,
you know what I mean, every great everyone on this
wall didn't do it for the right reasons. They did
it because they wanted a come up. They wanted I'm
sick of being treated like garbage and I'm sick and
(39:22):
i'm i'm I know, I'm more special than this. So
so that they went out of the they moved from
wherever they were to do a thing that would get
them status and they could like you know what, I
am great, I am. I do deserve exaltation. That's inventors,
that's I mean, inventors are all there because they got it.
(39:44):
They're trying to get some pussy. Like it's a long
term pussy plan. That's kind of true. Not a lot
of women down to the patent office. They don't need
to do it. They don't need to invent stuff. They'll
just wait year rounds guys the event stuff get like
guys that are like three out of ten you invented
(40:07):
Elon Musk. You see that WHLD picture and when he
had bad hair. He's fat though, it's like the guy
did it for for to get people to get women.
I mean not exactly, but like that's the whole that's
like the primal urge. That's the when you watch the
Facebook movie.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
That's the whole premise of the movie.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Yeah yeah, yeah, So I'm not even mad at it.
It's just don't break laws, gotch But you can be
broaden your whatever, Just don't break laws.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
That's all Crazy Good is streaming now that.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
We're saying all that to say, yes, watch Neil Brennan
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Speaker 1 (40:40):
Make sure you go check it out.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
On Netflix and appreciate that. Neil's podcast to Man the Blocks,
Thanks everybody, anything else, Neil Nah thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Absolutely, It's Neil Brennan.
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