INTERVIEW: Porsha Williams Dishes On Divorce, Nene Leakes, Kenya Moore Exiting RHOA + More

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
The Breakfast Club Morning, everybody is DJ Envy just hilarious,
Charlamagne the God. We are the Breakfast Club law la
Rosa feeling and for Jess And we got a special
guest in the building, Capitol p horsh Is Williams.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Welcome.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
What's good.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
How are you feeling?

Speaker 3 (00:18):
I'm feeling good. I was just saying, come in here
this time of the morning, this is it, this is
nine ten, this is good.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
You can do that.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, when I was guest hosting with y'all. Yeah, but
I love.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
You, I love you like your sister.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Yes, I love me a good Lauren Lauren.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
Yes, Lauren's are special people.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
They really are. I was just saying this morning, how
many I have? My assister is Lauren? Lauren? We have
another stylus Lauren. It's just Lauren's everywhere.

Speaker 5 (00:45):
Lauren's everywhere.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Thank you, Rich Honey giving Rich back on Housewives.

Speaker 5 (00:54):
Yes, who would have.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Thought three years away from the show and now I'm back.
It's really exciting to be honest with you. You know,
like each season when it comes, you never know what
to expect. Like, am I excited? I mean it's like,
you know, it feels like a job. But being away
three years and coming back is really good for me
because I get to see everybody who I had not

(01:17):
seen on the show. You know, the fans are back,
Housewife fans are back, and I don't know, it's just
a big turn of events, you know, Like when I
first decided to come back to the show, I was
like happily married, Like, oh, I'm about to really show
out storyline, gonna be extra popping Valentine's photo and was
downhill from okay, you're gobout to have a documented Instagram post,

(01:41):
But yeah, it was. It was. It was like that.
But as life is, you know, turn of events, it's
not always perfect. And so by the time we started filming,
that's when the real storyline started.

Speaker 6 (01:51):
Souse. You get a lot of money for you. It's
not like you need to be.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
God has you know what it's God has really been
good to me. Three years away.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
From God really good.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Okay, inspired off, but no, you know, I have a
certain relationship with my fans. I've been doing a show
for ten years and they're really not fans. I call
them supporters because they've been with me through everything a divorce,
giving birth to polar on TV like ups and downs
of life, and so, you know, I really felt like

(02:25):
at the time, it was gonna be great to share
my life, my happily married life. You know. But I
one thing about me and my fans do respect, I'm transparent.
So even though it didn't turn out the story that
I wanted to share, I still was open with what
I had.

Speaker 7 (02:41):
I would saying before you walked in and your team
wanted me to tell you to don't forget your coat,
pull it down.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
It shifts up.

Speaker 7 (02:46):
Okay, yeah, but before you walked in, I was saying
that I've never met you before, but from Instagram to
the show, you just seem like my homegirl, Like I
want to drink with you, I want to party with you.
I know so much about you because you are very transparent.
I remember when you did The Family, The Family.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Serious Family.

Speaker 7 (03:02):
It was kind of similar where you were so excited
to show things and then it just went left and out.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
We're here with the marriage stuff.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
I tend to put different mixes in the suit. Maybe
I can't cook because why would I have put my
fiance and my baby daddy on the same show. Yeah, yeah,
but it makes for great TV. I mean, even the
time I had away from TV my system, I will
always say, damn, we wish it was cameras here, you
know what I mean, Because it's just some people are
just like that. And I've always been the type of

(03:28):
person to use my life as a testimony. So even
though it's difficult for people to show their lives and
talk about it, I get healing from it, you know,
from meeting people to say I can relate to that,
or I made some crazy mistakes in love too, or
I believe the Negro one time too, like girl. That
all helps you process things.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
Let's let's I want to know, let's start with the divorce.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Rightmatically, people people assumed it was infidelity. But you know,
in the first episode you talk about you would go
to the airport and you would always get pulled to
this and you got to the point he was like,
why the hell do we keep getting pulled to the.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Side, right right, right side. No, No, it doesn't benefit
me at all for him to be locked up mentally
and financially, it doesn't benefit me. You know, just because
you're going through a divorce doesn't mean you hate someone.
I hate actions, I hate lies, I hate a lot
of characteristics. But I love the person, you know, and

(04:23):
I would never wish harm on anybody. And at the
end of the day, I know that he's the type
of person. He's a slithering snake. He's gonna find his
way out of it. I'm sure he'll be fine, you know.
And I pray for him his family, and I hope
they all figure it out.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
But did you call it? But I called him? Got you?

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (04:41):
They do. They get around you that whole reural tight,
that whole real real tight. But that's also me. I mean,
I love love, and when I meet someone I'm a cancer.
And when I meet someone who reciprocates that, nothing else
really matters. It's how you make me feel. I'm very intentional.
So if your intentions to towards me feel authentic and

(05:03):
it feels real, I'm gonna trust that. And that's just
how I live my life experience.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
I do want to say, it'll Portia.

Speaker 6 (05:08):
You are beautiful, mean, so I can see why a
man would want to be in this country illegally to
be with you.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
So do you feel like do you feel like it's
kind of your fault?

Speaker 3 (05:17):
I think it's the country's fault. I think he's having
a whole issue that started before I was even born
that unfortunately, it's just come to the ship then hit
the fan. It just is what it is.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
So where is it at right now?

Speaker 7 (05:32):
Because last the last reports were like he's detained, the
citizenship was denied, Like, so where is he physically, and
like what is like what's happening right now?

Speaker 3 (05:40):
So I only know as much as you guys know
and as much as what's online. As far as I know,
they've been posting that he's still being detained. So in Georgia,
I'm not sure. I haven't looked into it that much.
I just know I'm trying to finish my divorce and
I can't do with that if I don't have a
person to divorce.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
Really we need to to be in court.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah, well, you know, he wanted to have our last
court day, which was just a couple of weeks a
week ago. He asked for it to be in person.
I didn't want it to be in person because I
knew this whole thing, you know, when I got enlightened
about the no I knew that he already had a
peculiar situation with the United States of America, and so

(06:22):
it wasn't gonna benefit me or him for it to
be in person. We had already done a year's worth
of the divorce over zoom, so why in person? Why
are you fighting for that?

Speaker 4 (06:33):
But showed up looking just like that too.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
You know you got to get in that last look.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Divorce.

Speaker 5 (06:44):
Now you also fouled that he didn't want you to
record in the house.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yes, yes, so I did. It was your house, yes,
our house. So I mean, I know He's explained it
a thousand different ways online. He has documented our entire
divorce on The Simon Show online and then I have
the housewives, I suppose. But yeah, there is paperwork in
place that would make it a marital property fifty to

(07:09):
fifty split. Outside of that being enforced, it is a
pre marital property or whatever. But you know, I am
on the other side of this, Like we've been divorcing now,
through this process for a whole year, and you know,
I've emotionally it's caught up with what I had to do.
So like, emotionally, I feel like I'm ready to be

(07:29):
done with it. I'm ready to heal ready to move on.
But you know, here comes a reality show. So here's
the part of my life where it gets interesting. I'm
done with the divorce, but I had to deal with
it all the darkness on camera.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
It comes right back.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah, and so now it has to come back. So
now I have to be super preyed up. I have
to be super vigilant of who's around me, of energies.
I have to be very protective of my piece at
this point because I know what I'm getting into more
than any other season. This season could affect me more
than any of this.

Speaker 7 (08:00):
And girl, this is your season, Like I mean, you've
always been like you, Kenya, Niini, Candy, y'all are the
O G girls. But right now I think we're all
excited because you have been away from the show. We
know that Kenya eventually exits, Ninni's not there, Candy's not there,
So it's like we are looking for you to bring
back how it used to feel. So there's so many
eyes and people are gonna critique it so much, So like,

(08:20):
what's the daily mantra with filming? Because these girls are
not They're not was gonna give you that protected piece
that you're talking about? Well no, because I just met
a couple of them, So I was like, what so
you know, for me, I came back into this kind
of feeling brand new, not gonna lie, like three years
is a really long time from having cameras in your

(08:43):
life on a daily basis. I was looking into the
damn camera land for most of the like I was forget.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
I was getting stumbling over words. It was like brand
new Porsche all over again. And then I just said,
you know what, I talked to the producer. So this
was collaborative me coming back. A big part of me
coming back was collaborative. We had conversations my husband or
a strange husband and production about how I wanted to
be and how I asked them to be was completely honest.

(09:11):
I asked them, can I break the fourth wall? Fourth
wall on reality TV is saying I'm late because I
had to feel my momm in house because it's to
see some desists on my crib. You know what I'm saying.
So I told them, I said, listen, the only way
I can do this is to just speak my truth
and be one hundred percent honest. You can edit what
you gotta do later. But for me to get through
this at this dark time and losing like my person,

(09:33):
I have to be as honest as I possibly can,
and they agree to that, and I feel like they
stuck with that. You know, I gotta see the show,
but I feel like they stuck to letting me just
live authentically.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
You see the first episode.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
I did see the first episode.

Speaker 5 (09:46):
I did, what did you think?

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Because I feel like they got you walking into BSh
Like they showed this whole grand thing and you're working
on this, you go into the attorney, you're doing everything,
then you walk right into the bullshit.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
Yeah girls, Yeah, It's like, why does she say that?
Ladies man.

Speaker 7 (10:05):
Y Kelly is she's one of the new girls. She
owns a waffle business, and yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
So she I mean, listen her. Real Housewives of Atlanta
has never really let brand new people, possible fans of
the show be housewife first season. They normally play friends
for a little bit then become a housewife. So when
you have people who she can be Queen Bee of
wherever she's from, but you still feel like you have

(10:36):
to act a certain way to be on Housewives. And
I think that's what that moment was because at the
end of the day, who doesn't know the story of
me and Simon, who doesn't know what actually really happened
with that enough to say who stole? Who stole what?
Like you know, so I just felt like she was
wanted to have a moment, and I was dismissive of it,
like delayed, little delayed.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Isn't that wack of producers to them?

Speaker 3 (11:00):
No, that's what I'm trying to tell you. So this season,
the producers did not overproduce us. They really didn't.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
And that's the end from the start.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
No, no, it really, it really wasn't like she felt
that way. She felt like she wanted to ask me
that and she wanted to have a moment. But you
look whack doing that. And she eventually straightens up. But
you know she had to you as a new girl.
She come in and thinking I ain't gonna make it
a name. I'm gonna come for Porsha.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
It doesn't seem like you too find her were still
after she straightened up.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
By the way, we have a love and hate relationship
we have like the we have we are literally like
what is it oil and water? Maybe not on none
of the match, but baby me and her, we we
kind of up it. We kind of up and down
with it. It's not hateful.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
So y'all make up because you because during that little party,
you were like, I don't wanted a little party.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
But during that party, I think she.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
And I argue a lot. But I don't know if
it's gonna look as hateful as my arguments have been
in the past. If you've known my history on the show,
when when why can want to cuss so much? This morning?

Speaker 4 (12:01):
Isn't this outbit? I feel like.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Not when people with people. When women used to come
on the show, I used to be with them the
whole season and it got so dark. This season does
not go that dark. We have funny moments, we talk
about each other week Kei key, and yes we argue,
but it's not enough to break sisterhoods.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Gotcha?

Speaker 6 (12:26):
I saw a doctor Simone would more call you a
mean girl? Why she said that about you?

Speaker 5 (12:29):
Capital pe know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
I couldn't really understand what she was saying. I think
Simone is reaching that straws. I mean, I don't know.
I think Simon is full of it, just like that
piece of dodoo she had on her head, like she
just she to me she on her show sometimes when
you're on reality TV, right, she's an obgy n She
started on the show, and you know she was a

(12:53):
regular person and now on the camera. Sometimes when you
start lacking in story, you start lacking as a person
individually you start it's reaching and coming at bitches who
are on point. So she's lacking. So when people lack,
they try to deflect and come to you. I never
even met this person.

Speaker 5 (13:09):
I've never even met her.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
But I have never met her.

Speaker 7 (13:14):
I will say I think a lot even if you've
never met her, because of like, it's been a lot
of seasons of her houses of Atlanta, and we all
feel like we know you guys, So maybe that's what
she felt.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
I don't think you give me you mean girl.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
I think me.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
I definitely get with a bit like you can you can.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
You hold your own if you knuck them my buck?

Speaker 4 (13:31):
Yeah, you definitely do.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
But that's the old porch. I take that back. I
don't do that no more, right, La, We're not going
to see that.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
I've been looking forward to somebody.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
That's actually, of God, it's exactly yourself.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
You have to defend yourself that that was a guy.

Speaker 6 (13:51):
Now.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
I think mean girl is when you have a cast
member who had a deaf in their family and you
are still hard on them. Sometimes you gotta know when
someone needs a hug and out of a lecture, and
Simon does not have that sense at all. I just
feel like she has been very mean and a little
bit evil to some of her castmates.

Speaker 5 (14:08):
Yeah, I didn't get Me and Girl from the first episod.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
I got late.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
He was late, I was late.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
I was late. Try not to be late. But again, logistics,
behind the scenes, things that you will see and things
you don't know. I had to film at my mom's
house because you know, I couldn't film in my house
at the time, and she lives out in Duluth, baby,
And that was on a Friday in the rain.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
So wait, before we go to your question.

Speaker 7 (14:32):
You're talking about filming at your mom's house in the house,
because I saw online that you So you weren't awarded
so possession of the house, so I was, But you
still can't film there.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
So I was, so no, here's the thing I could film.
I could do what I want in my house. I
can film like a whole porn on my house. I
can do what I want, right, I know, I ain't
had nothing in a while, so I just have to
think about it. But Okay, so I could do what
I want in my house. However, he sent the cease
and assist to Bravo, so when he sent that to Bravo,

(15:01):
they don't want to play with that. So I needed
to get a separate document that said I can film
in the house to give to them so they don't
have to worry about him harassing them with legal things.

Speaker 6 (15:10):
Right, but can he send anything legally being that he's
here illegally.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
I'm not an immigration attorney, but if he has.

Speaker 5 (15:20):
An attorney, he can send with it.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
I would think everything he sends his snlling void.

Speaker 5 (15:23):
Yeah, but bro, I'm sure don't want to fight that
less help South.

Speaker 6 (15:28):
I want to ask you about this some old thing
because she said I think she was if I'm not mistaken,
correct me, Lauren.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
She was saying that Phaedri left her show to come
back with you.

Speaker 7 (15:36):
Yeah, because they freaking back, so it's like now the
reunion of them as a friend. She was basically saying,
freaking Frank and over there to check was whack. Like, Okay,
that happened everyone, because I was going to ask you
that because Faeder comes in later in the season, I'm like,
was that switch?

Speaker 4 (15:50):
Because what did you need the friend or like, did
this the money?

Speaker 3 (15:54):
We always need fed I don't give it. Damn we
always need the legends of Real Housewives of Atlanta. There's
just certain situations as to where we can't have some
of them back. But if there was, where there's a will,
there's a way. I wanted to have Fader back. The
cast wanted Faeder back, and Bravo wanted her back in
her home on Housewives.

Speaker 7 (16:10):
So what's Faedria's Bravo, just check over your own Housewives
looking like because she left.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
The whole other show was.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
She'd have made that check? You cash it already? You
worry about to check? You than I already?

Speaker 4 (16:18):
Cast?

Speaker 3 (16:19):
She like cash that check? She coming to get this check?

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Heard you?

Speaker 7 (16:22):
That answered your question? Checks everywhere? You said the checks everywhere?
Oh yeah, everywhell Now.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
How tight are you?

Speaker 5 (16:28):
And Drew Drew?

Speaker 3 (16:31):
You know what Drew is? Some people you just realize, Okay,
you're just a little Is she still an ambassador of
go naked hair? Absolutely? Lenan okay hair now hair and
put my hair on people's head and then they think
they're me, Like that's what I can't do, Like that's
what we not gonna do. You don't become Porschit by
wearing Porsio's hair. You need to just enjoy my hair,
take it out when it's dirty, and put it in

(16:52):
back in when it's clean. You know, like you can't
just like all that she is. She's the okay person.
I think for a lot of her friends, I think
they love her. I think they trust her. I think
if you're not her friend, you shouldn't trust her and
you shouldn't be around her.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (17:05):
So with you saying you shouldn't trust her, you shouldn't
be around her, and she is not wearing goneked hair anymore.
You were not at all, And I saw it kind
of in the first episode. You're not happy about the
allegations that she might be uh in a relationship or
whatever with Dennist.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Your ex see is why I like Breakfast Club. You
ask the question that need to be answered. Okay. So
here's the thing on the show. I don't know how
it's gonna come off again, because it's just the show
has to sensationalize things, right, So how good is it
for me to be going through a divorce and I'm
still jealous about my baby daddy? That's bs right, So
in real life, she actually was trying to film with

(17:40):
him behind my back, and when he's a.

Speaker 5 (17:43):
Music producer, right, That's what I said on the shows, that.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
She's whatever he says he is, Yes, he is, he
is all he is a serial entrepreneur and apparently a
music but she was trying to film with him behind
my back and that's just not cool. Come on with
him on Housewive. So it's just not cool, right. It
felt like a setup for me in some way. And
then also there was a go naked photoshoot she was

(18:08):
trying to set up without me knowing anything about I
have to prove everything. Some of them fits, it's not
fitting for you so or some of them looks may
not be given the look. So I would like to
ask the owner of the company be a part of
any of that. So when those two things were happening
behind my back on My business, with my business on
my show, Yeah, I have a problem with you.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
So you didn't know Drew was recording with you with Dennis.
You didn't know anything. You didn't know that they were speaking.
You didn't know that they were That's what they.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
Said on the episode.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
I didn't know any of that.

Speaker 5 (18:41):
So in that episode, what's so funny?

Speaker 3 (18:44):
I saw the episode and she was like, she asked him,
and I said yes, and she talked to me and
I say yes, and I'm like, that's just not true.
Like I genuinely didn't know. Look at the end of
the day, like I told Shemiya, if Drew and Dennis
want to get together, I just hope she can do
baby hare for like, I'm happy with you. I think
she's a great parent. I think if him and her

(19:04):
were to get together and you know, they could have
a solid relationship, that's good too. Just don't screw me
where you asked me to come back to be She
had been asking me to come back the Housewives, and
when I came back, this is what you had way
on me, this wack storyline that y'all came up with.

Speaker 6 (19:20):
Oh you're saying, if it was real, you wouldn't have
a problem with of course not.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
I've never got Listen, everybody knows Dennis and I have
a great coparent relationship and it is strictly because his
personal life is his personal life and mine is mine.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
So he didn't say nothing to you at all either.
You found out on the show, So y'all didn't have
no conversation.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
No, he ain't gonna tell me because he could benefit
off me finding out on the show.

Speaker 7 (19:45):
That one he went on, I thought you and Dennis
was homies though to the point where like he would
have called you, like, yo, p this is what's happened,
Like y'all seem like y'all have that really like a friendship.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
Still No, not about.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
His personal life. Oh wow, yeah, not about his personal life.
Now I found he is the one who called it
invited me to her birthday party. That's when I was like,
that's a little pig care onlier. I like, why are
you inviting me to her birthday party? You know? I
called her and I was like, oh I can't come,
you know. I was like, but Dennis inviting? Oh yeah,
I forgot to tell you about Dennis. Yeah, we're working together.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
I was like, okay, like you still love Dennis? Cool?

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yes? Yeah, not like you know, please don't take that
SoundBite like that. I mean yes, And then that's my
daughter's father and I want the absolute best for him.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
But do you love him like still let him sweat
on you type?

Speaker 5 (20:29):
She just said, sling hot dogs on me.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
No, now I can't even I and you know, this
has been a period of time. I've been divorcing a year,
you know, and a lot of people move fast even
in their divorce time. I just don't see him in
that way. I just don't. And I think because it's
because of polar You don't play with that.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
You know.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
I'm already going through a divorce and she's already you know,
losing someone who she called the stepdad, pop Pye, etc.
I don't want to play with her seeing me and
her father be in a relationship and then break up.
That's not responsible for me. So the love I have
for her just causes me not even to be attracted
to him in that way at all, because I just don't.

(21:16):
We have so many ups and downs, our relationship can
be toxic at times, and I just don't want to
enter into that space for him.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
You have a great relationship parents and cole parents, and.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
We have a good co parents. From what I am
single right now, So we go see how it works
out when I get somebody.

Speaker 6 (21:29):
Is that hard to find somebody? Little porst you because
you are so high profile?

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah? For you? Because your high profile you on.

Speaker 6 (21:35):
TV, people may not want to be, they may not
want their life involved in that.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
True, So certain caliber of people do I do tend
to attract a lot of opportunists. So yes, the people
who probably aren't opportunists, who are in their own lane,
doing their own thing and don't want to party anything
I have going on, probably tend to skew away from
trying to date me, which is the downside of being

(21:59):
a real reality star. But I just feel like at
the end of the day, right now, I can't even
think about that, Like I can't even imagine me like
being with someone else right now because I still have
the energy of my husband around me. So when that's done,
I think maybe the atmosphere will be like her King
is coming. Not an African huh? I love African man.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
I was gonna say, because you know, I was just
back in January.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Girl, you got that girl, you know how to follow somebody?

Speaker 7 (22:35):
Girl back there was a video of you and the
Nigerian guy. I don't know how you say his name
for rock, So that's not bab no no.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
So the culture in Nigeria, you know, Nigeria is a
great place. First of all, everybody should visit Nigeria. But
when you are from outside of Nigeria and you come
to Nigeria, it's best to have a host who is there,
who knows everywhere you need to go. Bucket cannot be saved.
Sometimes places in Nigeria may not be as safe sometimes

(23:07):
for women on their own. So when I took Phedra,
I had a host. He was our host. So yes,
I knew. At the end of the day, when I
saw on the blogs, I was like, I can't help
them thinking that because I am with him for breakfast,
I'm gonna be with him at dinners, We're gonna go
to loungers, We're at all the clubs because he is
the person who is showing me around everywhere.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
And it was a kiss on the cheek too.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
He kissed all his friends on the cheek. He had
a lot of friends he was kissing on cheek.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
I'm just saying that's why the people was like, oh,
this is her mean.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, but you know, I'm not that young anymore. I
can't really be the type of girl that see you
with other women, like once I lock on you, we're
locked in. So you know, he's still young and he's
still doing his thing. He's one of the big guys
out there, but I don't share.

Speaker 7 (23:47):
It's interesting to see that narrative because I think at
one point, especially when we first met Dennis on the show,
they tried to make it seem like you were just
like this, careless, like dating whoever, whenever, whatever, type of person.
And it sounds like now you as a mom and
where you are now, it's like a lot more protective
of your space, especially because of your kids.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
So I'm interested to see how that plays out on
the show.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
You know, it's unfortunate. We want women to be soft,
we want women to be open to love. We want
women to love love and give men a chance. But
the women who do that we get beat on drag. Yeah,
you know, everybody's upset with like a j Lo or
Kim Kardashian or Elizabeth Taylor. But we want men who
treat us well, with women who are gonna love us
and who we believe we can love back. But why
isn't why are we empowered to be able to walk

(24:27):
away if it's not right?

Speaker 4 (24:28):
Right?

Speaker 3 (24:28):
So wouldn't that mean I would be dating or be
with multiple people over my life? So you know, it's
it's rough as a woman out here. You just have
to have thick skin and trust yourself and make good decisions.
If I was dating somebody and that was my guy,
trust me. Everybody knows I will claim him, post him,
and all of that make you sick about it.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Whatever relationship don't have to be public either.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Though it doesn't. It doesn't, but you know, I don't know.
I guess it's the cancer in me or the Nigerian
and me like I'm loud with it, like if I
love you, I want everybody to know, you know. So
I'm really gonna have talk to me therapist because I
think my next one should be quiet.

Speaker 6 (25:03):
You said something that was interesting. You said that you
can't get the energy of Simon off you. What makes
you get the energy of a person off you? Like
Lauren got said. Your sister got to say she could.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
She could. But you know, this divorce, it's gonna take
some time. It's gonna take time to the public. Our
relationship was so sensationalized that I don't think they saw
it as a real relationship. But I genuinely did love
my husband and I had all kind of plans. If
you have ever been married on a long term relationship,

(25:35):
everything you do you're considering that person. They're a part
of it. So everything I'm still doing, I'm having to
piece him out of it, you know. And I'm still
in our home. I would like to redecorate or do whatever,
but I gotta still wait to see what's gonna happen
with that. He and I stop talking about Simon. This

(25:56):
is not true. You're wrong this.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
We don't even know what is I don't know that.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
What is it say?

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Can't be real.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
They just hand me that I havennoyed.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Wow, okay, so Lauren, look at that.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
What is happening?

Speaker 3 (26:19):
We need to you need to call. You need to call. Yeah, sorry,
I'm just playing.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
I made that up.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
What excuse me?

Speaker 1 (26:40):
What does it say? What does it say that.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
I was let it go?

Speaker 1 (26:45):
I'll let it go.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
There.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
You said you.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
Let me tell you what scared?

Speaker 3 (26:56):
I really didn't know what to say.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Where Charlemagne put together? Let me tell you before the interview,
he didn't.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
Tell none of us, right, I thought it was something
with me.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Just see him laughing at giggling, so we knew he
was up to something. But he even planned it because
he had somebody walking in the letter, says the Poorscha, Yo.

Speaker 7 (27:15):
Right now, it's not funny one that got him. I
kept it just in case because I thought he was
gonna do something to me. I knew he was playing something.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
What is this for?

Speaker 4 (27:23):
I was gonna throw it at him, at him way
too much.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
Man than half and throw play too much? Played, too much?
You play? I want to mess up your face. This
is I don't know, this is this? You know people online,
of course they're making Joe's like, oh you know she
called or whatever. This is like a person who I

(27:46):
have shared a life with. I don't want nothing to
happen to him. I don't want I didn't want him
to part it. Like at the end of the day,
this ship scared me. Was like, mister mental health, just
threw you off. Something happened to somebody, because you look
like you were about to cry.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 6 (28:10):
There was a lot of men that were happy that
he that that happened to him, though there were yes,
because how do you feel about you?

Speaker 3 (28:17):
And that's the scary part about being online, like going
in on a personality that people actually like. You don't
know who could have done anything, you know what? You
just don't know. But honestly, I don't think anybody did
anything to him. I think that sometimes actions just kind of.

Speaker 6 (28:33):
End up where it is, were you up said that
he didn't tell you that he was facing all of this,
or that he'd been dealing with this for years?

Speaker 3 (28:40):
I mean, fould for a divorce, you know. I just
feel like in any relationship, especially mine, I thought we
had the best communication, Like, I was so proud of
how we communicated, Like that's a part of what made
me trust him. I have been harmed by men in
my past and in many ways, and so it's hard

(29:02):
for me to trust. It's hard for me to like
truly love, and so people will look at him and
look at me and be like, I don't understand the correlation.
It must be the money. Wow, I already had a
lot of the stuff that I have now.

Speaker 6 (29:13):
Then.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Anyway, it was meeting someone who really saw you for you,
who you can talk to, who was a man of
their word. He always did things that I felt made
him trustworthy. For me, if somebody said something and they
do it, say it, do it, say it, do it,
why would I think I would have never believed any
of this stuff. Like I stood ten toes down to
the very very end. But you know, I worked very

(29:36):
hard in my life for what I have. I worked
to protect my daughter's future, her financial future, her emotional future, everything,
and at the time I needed to do that in
order to protect that, not saying it couldn't have been
turned around if we had better communication, but at that
time I had to do it.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
If he would have told you what the situation was,
you would do I begged.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
I begged to tell me. I literally begged that. My
sister saim right here, she knows nothing could have made
me leave Signon. He was my person and he probably is.
He's just not honest enough to stand next to me. Yeah,
I can love him from afar.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
So I have a conversation why why he didn't say.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Yeah, Well, if you're the type of person I mean,
if you if you're not telling even yourself the truth,
how are you gonna tell me?

Speaker 4 (30:29):
What was the timeline? You said?

Speaker 7 (30:31):
You begged, so, like, how many before you file for divorce?
How long was it that you were like trying to
have these conversations, trying to get out of him, trying
to be like, yo, I want to know what's happening,
Like I want to save this, I want to figure
it out.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Well, I didn't just it was the accumulation of things.
It wasn't just oh I found out that you could
be deported, because at the end of the day, I
was telling my people, I could take the kids wherever
he is, Like I'm a writer or die, I can
take them wherever you are. I love to travel anyway.
We love the travel. It's not necessary for him to
be here. And honestly, I thought we had enough money
where we could live in Dubai. We could live wherever.

(31:03):
So being important wasn't a that the deal breaker. It
was the other things about his past that I didn't
know about. It was things I was beginning to be
involved in that could have had me clink, Clint, you
know what I'm saying. So I just felt like this
is something I need to do until maybe this will
trigger you. Sometimes women or men will file for divorce

(31:24):
to trigger the truth out of their spouse because for
whatever reason, they don't think they can tell them. But
you almost want to say, well, you lose me if
you don't. You'll lose me if you don't tell me.
And in this case, it still wasn't enough. Oh.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
So when you first initially filed, it was you just
wanted him to tell you the truth.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
I just wanted the truth I wanted. I wanted to
know what was happening. You can figure out from my
first marriage, I learned that a partnership is something that
you can take for life. You know that with your
wife and with your wife, if you have a partner
standing next to you can fight and deal with anything.
Forget love, just the fact that both of you guys

(31:59):
are in the midst of it together. But as soon
as I realized in my first marriage that I was
not a partner, I was underneath I was with someone
who wasn't gonna be everything I needed them to be
as a partner or see me as a partner. I
knew that in this relationship I wasn't gonna do that.
I would never have gotten married again if I thought
him and I were not best friends, side by side partners.

(32:22):
I honestly wish in a different realm I could be
sitting here fighting for him as I was supposed to
fighting him. You know, a divorce is like a death
in the family, and for me, who wants to experience that?

Speaker 2 (32:34):
But now I would to go Kenny Moore, the fact
that she was taking off the show What are your
thoughts on that whole incident that happened.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
On the whole incident that happened, I think it is
I think it just went too far. I feel like
Kenya came back this season and she definitely well not
even the season, because I don't know what she was
doing the past three because I didn't see it. But
the king Ya that I saw this season was not
wanting beef and drama too much. She really wasn't on
too much of that, Like you can even see that

(33:02):
in the first episode. She really kind of chilled with it,
not her normal self, and I just felt like mixed
with the newbie and some things that were set that
were dangerous from the newbie, I felt like Kenya then
decided to be even more dangerous. But I do feel
like there's a space where there could be a conversation

(33:23):
with her and Bravo. I feel like there could be
a conversation with her and brit and hopefully they can
figure something out by next season.

Speaker 6 (33:32):
What happened on when y'all shot the Upshaws because we
had Ninia up here, Yeah, and she said you blocked
her from being on the Upshaws.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
No, she did it.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
She did the show, you wouldn't do it with her, So.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
No, it's not that I wouldn't do it with her.
So I signed on to do the Upshaws and I
had just filed I think could have even been a
week and a half prior, so you know how you
sign up. So mind y'all, when I filed for divorce,
I did not know I was filing for divorce. I
was happily in love with my husband, like we were
good Valentine's Day. We had a horrible argument. Things got

(34:05):
really nasty, and I knew something was about to hit
the fan, but I did not know. So when it happened,
I had already signed up to do the show, and
I really couldn't cancel at that point. So when I
got there, I just was sitting in the green room
or the waiting area, and I just like start breaking down.

(34:25):
Oh man, I just start breaking down. And then I
started and then she was in the room next to me,
and I heard just hearing her voice broke me down
because I just felt you and when you're going through
the worce. She just felt so alone. And here I
am just a foul coming out of my room. I mean,
I could barely put on makeup, and now here I
am on a set with strangers, I don't have anybody.

(34:47):
Just hearing her voice just it was just too familiar.
And you know, I had not talked to her. I
didn't know how I could face her. I didn't know
how could face anybody. So it genuinely wasn't me saying no,
I don't work this person or that person whomever. Because
I agreed to it. I just wasn't capable of doing
it that day mentally and emotionally, I could not gather

(35:08):
myself at all. So when I spoke to them, they
were like, you know, I understand you're not gonna be
able to act as a housewife today. They ended up
letting me go home, and then they said we'll fill
you in. We'll fill in your spot with Cynthia. And
then after that, in true Nini fashion, she just turned
it into something about herself and and genuinely wasn't about her.

(35:30):
It was about me, you know what I'm saying. Like
her actions of like taking Simon's side and hanging out
with him with women or whatever they were doing, it
just really was null and void to me. I just
would have wanted a friends. So it you know, for
her to turn in and make it like I tried
to block her money or whatever. Me block Nini's money,
how like Nini's a star. I can't block your money,

(35:53):
just like nobody can block mine. I don't give damn
who you are, so it's to me, it's just unfortunate.
I'm too grown. I'm sure y'all can see I'm a
different Porstchra if I was another portion of reading her
and her wig or whatever, but I don't feel that way.
Like I feel like we've grown people. Girl. You know
how it is to go through a divorce. You know
exactly what emotions I could have been feeling. So all
the extra ness is just not needed. I only won

(36:15):
real well.

Speaker 6 (36:16):
She said, she said that Porsche wasn't here for her, right,
Porsche wasn't there for her when she was going through
what she was grieving.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
That's not true. I was out of town and flew
in for her husband's funeral. No, I'm there for my friends.
I was. I don't think she said that, And if
she said that, I think she will retract that because
that's just not true. I'm always there for her, maybe
even more than she was there for me. I didn't
get a phone call from her when I got what
she saw on the news about my divorce. You know,
she was with him, which is fine because in a

(36:43):
divorce you're gonna pick aside. You're gonna pick aside. And
we had a lot of friends as a couple. I'm
an introvert, but as a couple, we were extroverts. We
were out there, we had you know, we would hang
out with couples and travel with couples. But you know,
and so then when it breaks up, you can't I
can't judge if she wanted to go over there. Who knows.
She may think he right and I'm wrong. It is

(37:04):
what it is.

Speaker 5 (37:04):
How was your relationship? I know she is your best friend,
but how was that dynamic?

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Right?

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Because you know I've seen on the show she was
like your ex or your husband, your ex husband, I
should say.

Speaker 5 (37:13):
Text her. How is it that it still stays in
the system. That gotta be a problem.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
I don't know where that text came from to her
or her calling him bro, I don't know. I don't know.
But at that time of going through a divorce, how
don't you have the mind space to think about it
like you really think I'm gonna go home and think
about huh. Why was he texting her and congratulating her
and she called him bro like, no, you are literally

(37:40):
just walking through life like you are getting up, going
through your day. And honestly, a part of the show
is work, y'all, Like it's worked. So I'm clocked in.
I'm not sitting there, you know, thinking she's trying to
do anything to me, thinking anything behind any of it.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
I don't think she was trying to do I just
it just got to be a constant reminded like I'm
trying to get my own space, like leave that on
the other side, you know.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
But on a show that's about my life, so I
am expecting them to talk about it. I am expecting
them to ask me about my divorce and him and
I am expecting that. So that was totally fine.

Speaker 7 (38:09):
Are y'all like at this point, what are are you
and Smia as close as we've always known y'all to be,
because the first episode kind of gives that, you know,
Shemi is now coming into herself on the show, and
there might be a.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
Little bit of tension because of that. There was a
moment where.

Speaker 7 (38:22):
She's like, Okay, like, this is my new car. Girl,
get to the left. It's not about you right now. Yeah,
that was a little weird. I was like, woo, I
never really seen that from Shemiah, and yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
It was weird. But also, you know, it's the whole environment.
I mean, in true housewife fashion, who doesn't love to
talk crap about the person who's late and make them
look bad or whatever. No one knew the reason while
I was really late. I mean I didn't get to
tell her till we were in the closet while I
was late, and at the end of the day, I
did walk up while she was enjoying her car. But

(38:52):
in my brain as my best friend, I'm like, oh,
we both about to work on the car. Like, but
you finally did it, like you got that Rolls Royce Like,
so I thought. You know how you go to a
party and you're like, I don't want to miss them
getting a birthday song. I don't want to miss them
cutting the cake.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
So the production was trying to tell me Portia, hold on,
don't walk up to her while she's doing I said, no, no, no, no,
I want to. I do want to miss her getting
her car. But I can see how it came off, like,
of course the other girl, she's walking in her moment,
walking in her moment, that's my friend. Like I root
for her regardless. I mean when I didn't have or
when she didn't have whatever, Like I want the best

(39:28):
for her. I'm happy for everything that she has.

Speaker 7 (39:31):
So so now that you so, now that you guys
have gone through the season or whatever, is the relationship
still the same though, because it's just a very like
what conversations do y'all have after a moment like that?

Speaker 4 (39:40):
Because I've never seen that dynamic.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Well, you have to understand, like I just said, I
was oblivious to how the narrative was being painted.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
Oh so that's what conversation happening right now.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
I knew I was late, but I knew I was
late because I filmed in Duluth and there was a
camera crew with me one like I was just somewhere
lilligagg and I was working, and and I knew that
when I got there, I didn't want to miss her
big moment because I got there just in time. So
I didn't understand that I now see the narrative of oh,
portion being late trying to steal her moment why on

(40:12):
earth would I bring my friend to the show or
encourage the show to bring her in this moment as
the main character and not be happy.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
For Yeah, that's what it's given that.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
We're gonna see what, We're gonna see what, we're gonna
see what it gives.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
But even with Kelly, that's name Kelly, Kelly in front,
I feel like the.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Punch bag.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
But she's the She's the girl this like that.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
It's her season, so she and not even just on
that girl or Queen of show whatever. I like those accolades,
but no, no, but it's like I feel like, at
the end of the day, I'm a bet you're gonna
have to come and come it the top dog. I mean,

(41:01):
I'm sure they're gonna come make Kenya just like they did.
They're gonna come at Pedra. You gotta come at the Ogs.
It is what it is. It's just the name of
the game. It's just I feel like in TV it's
hard because you have your reality of what's happening in
real time, then you film it and then you probably
get over it, and then you watch it again and

(41:22):
some things could be hurtful. The editing could be hurtful.
Things could look dismissed. If things can look like what
it's not really is, so have you had.

Speaker 7 (41:30):
To call her and do what you just did and
be like yo, taking accountability. I didn't even know it
could come off that way. I apologize if it did,
Like are y'all doing that at this point because you're
watching it back. Mainly, it wasn't that big of a
deal to she or I gotcha, It really wasn't. Maybe
it was by the time she got to her confessional
and they started asking her to probe and questions, But
at the time, there was no feeling, no bad vibe
about me being like, this is my friend.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
She knows exactly where I'm filming at. You know, I
can't feel with my crib. You know, she know what's
being blocked over here. I'm just trying. I'm just happy
that they still in my ass at the end of
the day, because how you filming a housewife without house
So I'm just thankful and grateful to Bravo and to
all the other girls were stepping up. I'm glad that
her moment was so huge. I love that the way

(42:13):
they showed it, they really showcased her. I love that
because on an ensemble cast. The worst thing is to
be just the main character on your own. You want
everybody to hold their own weight, and I feel like
she carries her own weight. Kelly does, brit does, all
the girls do? So please Shine?

Speaker 1 (42:29):
Do you watch every episode?

Speaker 5 (42:30):
Do you watch the episodes or.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
You just someone have to? I have to, But this
season I probably won't watch all of them because a
lot is some darker moments a little bit.

Speaker 5 (42:39):
You said you have to.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
We used to when we did blogs, right, but now
unless I'm doing press and if it's if I know
it's a light episode, I'll watch it. But I really
don't want to see myself with the flashbacks and the
tears and some of the things I've already healed from.

Speaker 6 (42:55):
You know, you said you like seeing the ol g's
on the show. Would you welcome Meanie Beck?

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Yes, yes, I would walk on her back. I mean,
it ain't gonna look like I'm welcoming her back. Let
me get this straight. We gonna have a time in
the beginning, but I'm for what's good for the show.
But I just feel like, realistically, as much as we
all love Nini and I mean miss Nani, realistically, you

(43:22):
just can't sue a network. You cannot say things about
Andy Cohen that are that damaging and expect that bridge
to still be standing. So unfortunately, I just don't know
if she can cross that and come back.

Speaker 5 (43:37):
I just have one question, when did Porsche's confidence change?
What was that moment?

Speaker 3 (43:42):
Right?

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Because when we first seen you on the show, your
confidence level wasn't as high as it is now. You
weren't as comfortable as in your skin. You wasn't ready
to clap back. And then there was a change where
it was like porstion it and changing. It's like middle
finger to everybody. Right, when did that happen?

Speaker 3 (43:56):
I think that happened when I gave birth to a human,
you know, and I had to be someone that she
can look up to. I could not be weak. When
you become a mother, you have this natural instinct to
be protective. Your heart is outside of your body. Most
delicate thing that could kill you is right there that
you have to protect. So if you protect your child,

(44:17):
you now know I gotta protect me. So I'm super
protective of me for polar So when I say it
comes to my mental health, like you talk about all
the time, I put me first. I love my daughter.
I love my family, and when I was married, I
loved my husband. But I put me first. I put
my mentality first, and I protect my piece, my energy first.

(44:39):
Because if I'm good and I'm making sure I have
the right synergy around me, the right atmosphere, the right
people around me, then I know my daughter is gonna
be good. My whole life is for Polar. So what
you see now is just me growing the fuck up.
I'm forty four years old at this point, capital pee,
capital p and I make my own money, and I finally,

(45:01):
as a people person, decided to celebrate myself. Like even
in my downtimes, I still try to think about what
I have accomplished. A lot of times as a reality start,
we get talked about, Oh, she just a reality starts,
shein't got a tentent, she whatever. I'm a multitude of things.
I have done a lot of things in my life
to arrive where I am and have the status that
I have, so I now can accept it from me.

(45:21):
So that's pretty much where the confidence comes from.

Speaker 7 (45:24):
I got one more show question because I know you
also are acting too. That lifetime situation we want to
talk about. But Kenya, so I know she's not going
to finish out the season because of what happened with
her and Brittany, but they were saying that she could
come back put potentially season seventeen.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Who said that, I thought.

Speaker 7 (45:39):
That she was only suspend different the rest of the scene.
I thought she was only suspended for season sixteen and
could potentially come back for seventeen.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
Though I would hope that's true, I just can't see.
I'm in one hundred percent agreement with her not being here.
I would love for her to be at the reunion.
I'm for what's best for the show, and I loved
where Kenya was going. She's not that happy with me
right now, you know, but that's okay. I've always been
that tape. I don't give damn how you feel about

(46:08):
me if I'm always going to speak the truth, So
you know, I feel like at this moment, no matter what,
I feel like, it would be good for Kenya to
be the reunion. And I feel like she is very articulate,
and she can speak to britt and she can speak
to the cast, and she can speak to the fans,
and she can find her way back next season. So
I think that that could be a true statement.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
She not was you right now? I thought you were
doing better this season.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
She didn't like when I said that when I compared
her to Britt and I said they were similar, And
I said they were similar, but I meant because they're
both fabulous. They're both to me speak their mind, like
you know, she when you don't like somebody, you don't
want to be compared to them. So got you. But whatever, girl,
I got hell. I got to talk about you. You a

(46:51):
part of the show. Don't you want to be talked
about it.

Speaker 7 (46:53):
It's kind of crazy though I didn't even think about
the reunion, like the fact that she won't even be
on the race.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
He said that it's possible. I'm still hopeful. I'm still
hopeful she is. She's still a big part of the show.
She's not the show. She didn't make or break the season.
But Kenya is a person who I've been doing this
with for a very long time, and for once we
were possibly about to have a season of not being foes.
You know what I'm saying, Fader, I have to say

(47:19):
when Faeder came in, she helped to elevate the show
as well and keep us where we needed to be
because everybody been wanting to see her. She's been gone
the whole time Candy been gone, so you know, it's
people wanted her back.

Speaker 7 (47:32):
And Candy has been really upset about how Kenya has
been treated by the network. She's been very vocal about that.
And then Fader coming back. I don't know if Candy's
too excited about that as well too. But do you
feel like the network protects you guys the way that
they shuld Because that's what Candy saying, is like the
network didn't protect one of their stars, which is I still.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
Work for the network, so I don't share certain sentiments. Okay,
let's be clear, all right, I'm saying that I think
Kenya deserves an opportunity, and an opportunity can be given
to anyone. You can always say no. She can say
whatever she wants to say to Britt, the cast, the crew,
and whoever, and they can say no. But I believe

(48:08):
she deserves that opportunity. I ain't say a damn thing
about the network. Love the network.

Speaker 6 (48:12):
Talk about all this money you're getting pamped by port.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Go Naked Hair, the Lifetime movie.

Speaker 7 (48:19):
Yeah, it's Detective Ebony Williams and the upcoming Lifetime movie
Single Black Female three the final Chapter.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
Yes, yes, that was That was big for me. I
always want to be in a Lifetime movie. I am
obsess with Lifetime and I am amongst the cast of
great women who've been They had two other movies. This
is the third installment, the last one, and I played detective.
I look totally different in this movie. I even stopped
doing botox for this movie. I did. I was like,

(48:45):
you know what, I'm not doing any boat talks. I
want my whole face to movie.

Speaker 7 (48:48):
I gotta look at the trailer right now. No, no,
you look good, all right, but in.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
The trailer because I know when you saw times in there,
every freaking line speed, I got all of it. Because
the my raw is so different from who I am,
Like I'm an alcoholic, I'm a bit of a stalker.
Like you know, I ain't gonna say who else what
else I've done in that movie, But I think it's
gonna be a good look for me in the acting

(49:14):
world because it's totally different from me playing myself and
a lot of other things that I've done before.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
You turned out a lot of acting roles, Yes.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
I have, because I also have well what am I
My mom told me how to claim that no more.
But I'm one of those people who start something and
I don't finish it a lot of time. So I'll
like hyper focus on something and then all of a sudden,
I'll hyper focus on something else. So at a certain
point in my life, I was really hyper focused on acting.
I was going on stage plays with Fox, going on tour,

(49:44):
I've done movies, I've done a lot of voiceovers. And
then I was like, oh, I just want to concentrate
on don Nigga hair and panmpered. I don't want to
do anything outside. I'm a businesswoman. And now I'm like,
you know what, it's time to pivot and back into
that because I can naturally do it. Like I'm the type.
I've a photographic memory. I can literally read the script
that night and it'll be in my mind the next day, imprinted.

Speaker 6 (50:05):
I got one last question, will a Nigerian man get
another shot or do you feel like the stereotype is
true and all of them are scammers?

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Now, so you've just done well.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
I am Nigerian so and I don't know what you
mean by all of them a scammers. I mean we
live in the United States, which is the biggest scam.
I mean, our entire government is scam and a fraud
and taking advantage of people. So I feel like when
it comes to Nigerians, of course I would date another one,
you know, I would. I would marry another one. I

(50:33):
want to love and marry who is going to be
honest and love me. I'm not ready to get married.
I'm not rushing into none of that. I mean unless
I say you say that.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
Now last see by the end of the season, being like,
oh of pusse you got a new ring.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
You would get married again?

Speaker 3 (50:48):
I would. I would get married again. Why of course,
So just because of him, I can't get married again.
I can't enjoy the comfort and the security of being
I love being married, being a called somebody's wife. I
love waking up every morning sitting at your feet, asking
you what you need me to do? Like. I just
love that that's in me. I'm a Southern girl, and

(51:09):
I think that's probably why Nigerian men and like men
of wealth like me because I am very submissive, and
I'm very loving, and I'm very even though I'm all that,
I am bost bitch. I can shift that a bit
for my man.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Do they have to have wealth?

Speaker 4 (51:25):
You know?

Speaker 3 (51:25):
I was thinking about that. I was thinking about that,
and I think if I didn't have a daughter, they
don't have to have wealth. They do have to have
self So you need to be self sufficient. You need
to have your own business about yourself. And you need
to be able to come in here if I get
pregnant and provide for our child. So no, I don't
want to know completely man who's building from scratch. But no,

(51:47):
he doesn't have to be wealthy. What is wealth? Are
any of these men really wealthy? Is any of the
money really real? Like? We don't really know? I know
one thing about it. I am a wealthy woman. I
am a probably a rich man.

Speaker 5 (51:57):
I'm all my shit is probably a rich man.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
I am like all my stuff is legit. You can
check my bank accounts. It is what it is. You
can see where it came from. A taxes not a man.
I gave bird hol On. I ain't got to look
for a rich man, a rich man, I'm what I'm
what I'm looking for. It's just in a male version,

(52:21):
so you know, But I do I like this new
conversation of like Dolly Parton, oh rp to her, but
I liked her relationship. Like they were separated a lot
of the time. It's in space physically, but they kept
their relationship strong. Like I don't feel like I have
to live with my husband.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
Shirlie Roth does that too, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
Shela Brown, and I loved when she told us that,
I don't think it has to be traditional. I feel
like my next relationship will not be traditional, be a
little bit open.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
Oh you would do an open relations really.

Speaker 7 (52:55):
Not with another female, so you could go and have
another man, But he can't have another woman.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
I haven't found one who's gonna allow. If you don't want,
let me know. But no, they don't allow that. They
don't allow that. I just mean as far as like
your tradition of him having to be in the house, gotcha.
I honestly could be in the house with just my
baby and be good and then we come and.

Speaker 5 (53:14):
Visit my house to break some time.

Speaker 6 (53:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
And like I always used to kind of tease with
even my husband, I'd be like, we could have separate bedrooms,
Like why not? Why not have separate just think about it,
why not have separate living spaces? And then when you
want to meet in the middle, you mean the middle,
and if you don't, you can comfortably go in your room,
pass gas, sleep, you know, not watch your makeup like.

Speaker 7 (53:37):
Houses though, I mean, you have enough rooms in your
house to be able to do that.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
So why y'all didn't just do it?

Speaker 3 (53:43):
Because I also like to be under people.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
That's also confused because I watch yo, me and my man.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
So I'm sitting here like, yol what I was talking about.
More so when we got well, he already was old.
I was when we got older. Y'all all ready we'll old.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
But I don't know what you want.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
I could be with a husband and him not living
in my house. I think that's possible. Maybe I'm just
talking about a businessman who travels a whole lot and
least race. No, I'm not gonna tell him he can
have a girlfriend. But do I I mean do I
got eyes on every single thing?

Speaker 1 (54:19):
No, So cheating, don't get caught?

Speaker 3 (54:21):
Basically what you say no, because then that's also saying
it's okay to cheat. So I'm not gonna say it's
okay for anybody to cheat. I would love sexually, let
me tell you this right now. And being a woman
who's about to be super single after this divorce. I
am not about having sex with a lot of people,
and no one should. I am a big advocate for women.
Pick your one person, okay, now, whether it's you have

(54:42):
a relationship with him or not, situationship, whatever, Pick your
one sexual partner. Get tested, make sure you know what
he's doing. Make sure his health is important to him,
not just that he going to get tests for you
to see that he wants to make sure that his
body is healthy, and that he also hasn't te with
who he spreads. It's penis with if you meet someone

(55:03):
like that, stick with them and then just date everybody else.

Speaker 7 (55:05):
But the issue comes in because I be there too.
But then you stick with that on one person and
you be trying date the other people, and then it's like, now,
in this person, you develop the feelings and you compare them.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
Y'all have to be scared together. Meet you somebody who's
scared together. I am actually scared of these streets. I
am not looking forward to being single out here and being.

Speaker 4 (55:22):
Tested in special health wise.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
Health Wise, I mean, Atlanta is number three in the
AIDS department, and who knows what other diseases is out
there that we all you know, the people got out there,
the other people got But no, I think sexually have
one partner and get tested with that partner. That's it.

Speaker 6 (55:39):
I don't think there's anything wrong with you're saying, but
you have to tell the other people that you're dating
that they not get in those fects.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
No you're not.

Speaker 6 (55:49):
You think they dating y'all just because they want to date, y'all,
Or you think y'all.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
Just people do that. That's just today that people do
take us out just to be in our presence.

Speaker 7 (55:58):
People, But what know they be hating but what they
don't what y'all men don't like to understand. And I
think y'all get it, but y'all overlooked because you want
to feel good about your own selves and that's your
own thing. We do compartmentalize, y'all. Like we have people
we call, hey, I just want to eat, have a
good time. Hey, travel buddy. But you still I have

(56:19):
friends that travel with men that don't have sex with them.
And men.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
We did not say that the intention of sex isn't
there for him exactly, not saying that he doesn't want
thee but all men who are are in a space
to take care of a woman and make sure she's
good and not not require sex. And when you were
brown share they just last. It may last for you know,
it's a good time, not a long time. So maybe

(56:45):
like a little one year relationships.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Looking for a company.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
I really want to be attracted to him, like I
really want to be, like I want to be really
attracted to him. What I need and you want to
I want you This morning when I was saying like
I feel bad feeling like no from everything from your

(57:15):
look to how you dress it, I want to be like,
oh my god, about my next working you told me
to you just lay down, you just want to kiss him.
You could just want to like I'm gonna look at your.

Speaker 7 (57:26):
Guys.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
Yes, that's what we want.

Speaker 7 (57:28):
He told me you got to basically pick and choo.
So like, if you can't dress his dress him up.
And I'm like, no, that's true. Dress him up.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
Behold on, don't dress them up to you marry him.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
You want your wife to be like that in it, baby.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
Dress him up, put a filter on him, do all
of that, and then you let him take it all.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
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man that comes on this Sunday and peakop and we
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Speaker 3 (58:07):
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