November 13, 2024 • 38 mins
The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Rosie Perez To Discuss Making Her Name In Hollywood, 2Pac Friendship, And Love For Boxing. Listen for More!
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Speaker 2 (00:46):
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Speaker 1 (00:48):
The Breakfast Club Morning, everybody's dej nv Jess hilarious, Charlamagne
the God we are the Breakfast Club. We got a
special guest in the building, the icon living Rosie Perez. Welcome.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Thank you so much. Are you feeling I'm feeling great?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
You got showed me a berthertificate or some idea or
something I refuse to believe you sixty years I refuse
to believe that you just earned sixteen September.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I refuse to believe that, yes.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I am sixty years old. And everyone keeps telling me
I'm sixty years old, but it's all good. Wow.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
What did you do to celebrate your sixtieth birthday?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
My husband gave me like a really amazing party. I'm
a homebody. I don't like to really do a lot
of stuff, and I have a small group of friends.
And at first it was supposed to be like forty people,
and I thought that was a lot.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
And you thought forty people was a lot.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, Okay, I come from I don't know if you
know this about me, but I come from the hip
hop world first, and I got so tired of partying
and so tired of I'm just over it. But eighty
two people showed up yeah to my party, and I
was walking around, like, who the hell are you? Did you?
(01:58):
Like it was somebody. My daughter was like, I need
to calm down. I was like, no, I don't. I'm
sixty years old, damn it. Right. Party.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
By the way, they only bring you up your age
because you don't look at no like oh congratulations you
turned sixty.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
That's the only reason.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Well, thank you. I think you know what I think
it is. Also what a part of it is. I
was straight edge until I was twenty four years old
and drink and smoke, only had coffee water. That was it.
And I just think that it benefited me in the
long run.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Absolutely dead.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
You have an iconic career, you stay booked and busy
for years you've been, But how is that?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I just keep I just you know what it is.
It's like I love boxing and I believe in that
champion spirit, and anytime I got knocked down, I just
I just rush it off. I'm like, okay, let's go,
you know what I mean. Like my life was hard
as a child, you know, not getting a roll, It's
not hard. That's just part of life and it's fine.
(03:03):
And I also think it's because any other actors are listening,
don't be afraid of audition. Don't think you're above it,
because that's bullshit. Excuse me, I'm sorry, Okay, okay. And
because I was a choreographer and all the dancers that
didn't want to audition for me didn't get the job.
(03:24):
Like I had to see what you had you know
what I mean. It may be different. I know your
great da so, but it may not fit the video
that that I'm working for right now. So it's like that.
And also be on time, be professional, be courteous, and
be prepared. And so I think that that has offered
me longevity as well, you know, because people will say, Okay,
(03:47):
she works really really hard, go ahead and hire her.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
What was your big acting break? I know everybody always
talk about you want to live in color, But what
was the acting break, Like, what was the role that
caused everything to.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Take off for you?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
What was my first role? It was the right thing, okay,
but what really really set it off, in my opinion,
was white Man Cancer.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Absolutely yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
And I fought hard for that one. I fought hard.
I was the only person of color in the casting
room and it was all just a sea of white
ladies and I was like, oh, dear God, and yeah,
but it's just like that, It's like, all right, it's
another championship round, let's go, let's go. And and man,
did I have to talk myself down from the edge.
(04:32):
It was. It was really tough. But yeah, I think
that was the one that really did it.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
How difficult was it back then? Because we all love
your accent.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
But back then, you know, when you're going into these rooms,
they might be like, well, who was this accent?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
You know? She said was to New York? Was that
ever a problem?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
All the time? All the time it was was a problem.
And then I would bring up other actors. I was like,
you don't have a problem with this accent. She's French,
Why why you don't have a problem with her? But
this person is British. Why don't you have a problem
with hars You're racism showing. I'm like, yeah, I said it,
you know, and that's who I just was, That's who
I am, you know. And I would challenge them on
(05:08):
it and everything, and sometimes it didn't work out, but
a lot of times it did. And when I first
went into the industry, the backlash that I really got
was from the Latino community. You're telling me, shut up,
sit down, stop rocking the boat. And I was like,
rocking the boat. I was like, what are you talking about?
All the struggles that you had and have done for me,
(05:32):
Let me relish in it, you know what I mean? Like,
what are you talking about? Why aren't you celebrating the
fruits of your struggle. Why in rock I don't want
to be in that boat, oh my own boat, you know.
And it was so that was really hurtful. That was
something I had to push through and it was just
it was just difficult, Like people don't understand how difficult
(05:52):
it was for me. But I just, like I said,
I just kept focused and just kept pushing through, just
gowing up.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
And it's crazy because that you don't realize until you
get older, like you were kind of like the only
one back then, but you know, we didn't we didn't
realize that. We just saw you on TV and oh
that's Rosie Perez, But yeah, you were like the only
one back then.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
I was the only one. I was the only one.
And it was hard also to fight against repeating performances
like I want you to do what you didn't do
the right thing, No, I want to do that, and
then it was okay, I want you to do what
you did in White Man can't Jump. No, I don't
want to do that. And then it's like I get fearless.
That was another oh my God, talked about. They made
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me audition four times for that role and Fearless, and
it was a dramatic role. They didn't want me. They
wanted an Irish American woman, which was screwed up because
it was based on a real story and the real
character was Asian American, right, And so they were saying,
we think that the interracial aspect between you and Jeff
(06:54):
Bridges is a concern. So we actually were supposed to
have a love scene in that movie, and they cut it.
They thought that the audience wouldn't be prepared for it,
ready for it, but it was. It just was really
really hard, Like people don't understand. It was really really hard.
(07:14):
And I just kept you know, you want me to
audition four times. I'm gonna audition four times. I'm not
gonna let you see me sweat. I probably would go
home and cry about it, and then the phone would ring,
they want you back. I'm there, I'm there, I'm gonna
get on the plane. I'm there. I'm there. Because I
really wanted it, you know, I really really really wanted it.
And then when Fearless came around, they were like, oh
my god, you could do something different. I said, I've
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been doing something different. I've been doing something different. That's
your limitations that you're not able to see that I
have been doing something different. And throughout my career, every
single role that I've had, they always go, this is
such a different role for you, and I go, you
said that last time, an the other time before, and
the other time before, and you know, it's just it
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just is what it is. And I tell other people,
whether they're you know, Latino or not, if they're if
they're a minority in this country, I was like, fight
for what you want. I mean, don't wait for your
seat at the table, you know what I mean, prepare
your own table.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I want to know way where you where you got
to start from?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Right, because you just weren't an actress, you were a dancer, choreographer.
What was the start to say this is what I
wanted to do. What did you see that say, you
know what, I want to be in that business? Because
you could have did anything. You could have said, I
want to be an astronaut, I want to be a doctor,
I want to be an attorney. But you wanted to
go into that. What got you into that and who
pushed you towards that?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Especially back then?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Well, actually I was in college to become a marine biologist,
so I was studying biocamp and then I meet the
casting the talent scout for Soul Train didn't take it seriously.
I just thought it was fun until my father made
me quit. God Rest his Soul. And then when I
met Little Silas Junior, god Rest is Soul. He was
(08:54):
an all guy at MCA Records, and he said he
came a sultiant and he goes, why aren't you and
something like that on the camera. I said, don Cornelist
doesn't like it. He goes, what's that? That's hip hop? Right? So, yeah,
that's hip hop. He says, I want you to teach
that to an artist I have. He's going to leave
this boy band. I said, who is it? Because I'm
not going to tell you. Just show up and I said, well,
(09:15):
I'm not a choreographer. He goes, I'll pay you sixteen
hundred a day. I said, I'll see you Monday, right,
And so when I got there, I didn't know I
was supposed to show him a routine. I made up
the whole thing on the spot, right, And it was
pretty bad when I made up and everything. And that
was Bobby Brown. So it was my first still. I
went back to school and it wasn't until Spike Lee
(09:38):
came into my life.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
But what video was it for Bobby Brown?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
So we could go back and look, I did two
videos was don't be cruel and my prerogative. I'm the
one that heart and soul for him.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
And and then when he every little step I take,
he didn't hire me, and I was heart proged. But
he hired Heart and so on, and I was happy
for them, and and I had to I told him.
I called him up. I was like, y'all killed it, man,
I hate to say it. And it became his most
iconic video.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Those guys had a Spike Lee. You said you met
Spike Lee? How did you meet Spike Lee?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I met him in a nightclub and we got in
an argument and he said this is fate. And I
thought he was trying to hit on me, and I
was like, you wish and he just kind of stopped
cracking up, and he was like, no, no, no, I'm
a director, film director. And I was like what it
was my girlfriend, my college buddy, Mary Wade. I went
to throw out the his business card and she went
in the garbage and took it out. She goes, are
(10:35):
you stupid? Just give him a call. And then he
asked me to audition for Do the Right Thing, and
I did it. And then after we filmed it, I
went back to school. I'm thinking whatever. And it wasn't
until I went to the premiere and I saw the
magic all come together and that was it. I remember
sitting I don't think I've had said this to anybody.
(10:56):
I was sitting in the in the theater. Here's we're
going down And one of my half sisters thought it
was because of the nudity, and it wasn't. It was
just like, my life has to change. This is what
I want to do. And that was it. That was
a turning point, the.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Most classic scene, one of the most classic scenes in
black cinema history. Though there wasn't nothing to cry over.
I had a lot of us doing that ice cube move,
a lot of us doing the ice cube move because.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
And what did your parents say when they when they
seen that, and you were going college, you were going
to be a marine biologist, and now you were doing
something that at the time, I would say most parents,
especially in our community, did not understand in the black
and brown community like that.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
My father was very upset. He was very upset. He
was very upset with me on soul train and that's
the reason why I stopped dancing. He was like, no,
I don't know who you are coming down that line.
And I was, oh my god, and I quit and
everybody was like, why are you quitting? I said, my
father told me to quit, and being in California, they
didn't understand that. They didn't understand the culture. And I
(12:00):
was like, my father told me to quit. I have
to quit.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
How old are you?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
I think I was nineteen twenty. And then when I
did do the right thing, I called up my god
and I said, I just want to tell you it's
an artistic film. He goes, okay, and I said okay,
and I thought he understood. And he had a viewing
(12:23):
party in Puerto Rico and invited the whole entire town Jesus,
and they said that he went into cardiac did and died.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
He he was like grab they were telling me.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I was like, oh my gosh. And I called him
up and I was crying. I was like, I'm so sorry.
He goes next time, next time, you tell me, and
he says, but you're a grown woman now and I
can't tell you what to do, and I'll support you.
But please, please don't humiliate me again.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
What was most enjoyable for you?
Speaker 6 (12:56):
Dancing or acting? Like which one is more easier and
more enjoyable.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I don't know. That's a good question.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Should you be killing it on the dance tip, but
then you kill it in the films?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
So like the dancing, the dancing, like, I don't know,
that's that's that's that's a true love for me. Yeah,
I've always been dancing. But the acting, you know, you
know when you get that one lover and you can't
get it out of your mind, you can't get him
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out of your mind, and like he just puts it
on you and you're.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Like, yes, ma'am, I just had a baby, so I
know all about that.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
Yes, all about that.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yeah, that's what acting is, Okay, I got you.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah, I was gonna ask you know.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
You choreographed so many different videos from Jenny Jackson, Bobby Brown,
ll cool J, Diana Ross.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
What was your favorite and why?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
My favorite client was Heavy D and the Boys because
I loved Harry. I loved him and I had a
lot of fun. My best client was cool J because
Todd was the most professional person I had ever worked with.
He That's why he's still in the game now, like
he just I mean, at such a young age, he
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just had his stuff locked down and he was like,
this is how we are gonna go. But I would
say my favorite was Diana Ross. She didn't show up
to any of the rehearsals. I was pissed. I was like,
I'm gonna quit, and it was like, don't quit, don't quit.
And then I was like, when she shows up, I'm
gonna tell her something. And her daughters, Tracy and Chutney
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came to see me. They're like, oh my god, Mon's
darting to see you. And I was like, yeah, okay,
I'm dying to see hotel. And so they opened up
the trail her doses high.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
I go.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
And I was like, oh my god, the boss, the boss,
and she said come on in. I said really, and
I just turned to mush. And then she gets up.
There no rehearsal. She says, let me see that hippie
hop fell out lamping and I showed her a few steps.
Got it like that, really got it like that, and
(15:06):
she was just game. She was like wow. And I
just love professionals, you know, I just really love people
who come with the a game. I just love that.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
You know, how difficult was it being a woman? You know,
in the industry coming up back then? You know, we
hear about so many different stories of men trying to
take advances and so many different things.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Was that is difficult for you as well?
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
What was the hardest point? Was one thing that you remember?
You would like I just remember this moment to this day,
and I wish that on no other woman.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
It was a person, and everyone wants me to say
his name, but I'm like, his life is shit now,
So it's okay. He got his come up and sp
went to an audition and people are like, well, why
did you go to so and Soul's hotel room? That's
what they used to do. Like even for Fearless, I
met the casting director and the director Peter Weir in
a hotel room, and you auditioned for them. And so
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this one individual wanted me to meet with him. And
my first thing was like, why is it so late
at night? I don't feel comfortable. Oh no, no, no,
don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. When I
went there, he starts rubbing my shoulders and I said, well,
are you rubbing my shoulders. He said, you're oh so tight,
you need a relax And I said, okay, but you
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don't have to rub my shoulders please, And he goes,
you know what, your career is not going to go far.
And I said, why is that. He goes, you don't
even want me to give you a massage. I said,
I thought this was an audition. I don't need a massage,
and he goes, We're done. Wow, you know, like somebody else,
a different young woman who is not as strong when
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I've probably caved, you know, people like try to blame
that type of woman. That's not the woman's fault. It's
that asshole's form, you know. But it has happened to me,
you know, especially in the music industry. Music industry was
really tough. The missogyny was enorm and I had to
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fight against it all the time, all the time. And
god forbid, if you actually like somebody in the music
industry and you wanted to go out with them, then
you would label the whore like these. Meanwhile, all the
men are screwing everything that walks, and so it was
really hard.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
It was.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
It was very very difficult, you know, but I developed
a reputation and it was to my benefit. You know.
They're like, oh my gosh, she's such a bit and
I was like, yes, i am, so don't try it,
you know, but it was it was hard, It was
very difficult.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
You feel like you opened the door for a lot
of people, like let's say, like a Jennifer Lopez and
dancers and actresses, especially Latino that came in after you.
Do you feel like you were the one that opened
that door.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
For I don't know if I opened the door for people.
I will say this, I stood my ground and paid
a heavy price for it at times, and I'm glad
I did it. If it benefited somebody, I'm very happy
about that. You know, there was others before me that
you know, open doors like you know, you because someone
like Cheeta Rivera or Rita Morano, Raul Julia, Raul Julia
(18:05):
got rest his soul. He was the only Latino actor
that supported me when I first came out. And I
remember I went up to him and he was at
an award show and he says, I like you, You're good,
and I said, oh my gosh, I said thank you
so much. He goes, don't let anyone tell you different.
And you know, what don't lose the accent, screw them all?
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And I said, wow, like I just couldn't believe it.
And his wife goes, he really likes what you do.
And I went back over to him and I went,
mister Julia. He goes, Raoul, and I go, Raoul, you
really think I'm good? And he said yeah, and he says,
and you gotta think you're good, because nobody else will
think you're good if you don't think you're good. He says,
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we'll remember that.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I was always surprised that you that they I don't
say they didn't force you, but they never tried to
change you as far as your accent is concerned.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Right, some roles, some roles, and you know what's some
you know what's so funny about that, Like some roles,
I won't have an accent. And because they asked, I'm
all right if if it's not relevant to the character,
I'll say no. You know, we need all space on
the screen too, you know. But the times that I
wouldn't do in my accent, people online would actually complained,
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oh she's trying to be right now, I'm like, I
can't win, you know what I mean. And it's just like,
it is what it is.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
You know, it is what it is.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
But was there ever a role that that you went
out for that you didn't get that you really wanted?
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Yeah, okay, a lot.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
When was the Matrix? I had the worst audition of
my life. They laughed me out of the role. I
don't even want to tell you because it was such
a humiliation. It was terrible. It was terrible. I swear
to god, I don't even want to all. But it's
funny because the cast is directed us, like I know,
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I didn't get. She goes she's walking me out of
the room and the two brothers they're looking at me.
That was great. I said, no, one, stop lying, stop lying,
and then they start laughing. And then I was like, anyway, bye,
and she's still laughing. And when I closed the door,
I hear it was. It was terrible. It was. It
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was terrible. That's when I went over to my best
friend Pie at Julie's house. It was waiting, Yeah, eleven
thirty in the morning with a join and a glass
of wine. Yeah, that was one. Another one was I
forgot the name of the movie, but Drew Barrymore got it.
I wanted so badly but yeah, I didn't audition for
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that one. They were going to meet with me, but
then they said, oh, we've already made a decision, and
I said, oh man. And but I couldn't hate on
her because she was so good in it too, you know.
So yeah, so there were a.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
Couple talk to us about before the new Apple TV
series What is that about?
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Oh? That is really it's it's a psychological thriller. It's
really kind of creepy. The kid in it is really fantastic.
Billy Cristo is amazing in it. Home Caster is Judith Light,
Hope Davis all the way down, Robert Townsend, Oh wow, Yeah,
he's great in it. But it's about a man who
recently experienced the death of his wife and he's in
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denial of it and he's not grieving properly. And then
he meets this boy. This boy just shows upbout his
house and he doesn't understand why this boy is gravitating
to him. And I play the boy's forster mother and
h and he's very he's a very troubled young kid.
And so what the real theme is about the show
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is about is that if you don't get past your past,
it will come back and haunt you. And so in
this move in this TV series, it really is haunting
the things that he won't deal with. And it's also
about past lives, like sometimes if you don't deal with
your trauma, you'll come back to this earth maybe as
another person or another being, but that trauma will come
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and double itself until you deal with it. So that's
not really what the series is about.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Was this role of challenge at all was a big
very different from.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Yeah it is, and it was it was I didn't
want it at first, and Billy was like, oh no,
I got you, don't worry about it, and he was
very supportive. But I gained twenty over twenty pounds during shooting.
You know. Every time it just got too difficult, I
would go over to the craft service and go on, you know,
and war Trump was like, it's press. They had to
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take my costumes out a couple of times. A couple
of times they had to like throw away costumes like
I thought I was wearing that, you don't fit in
that anymore? Oh my god, you know. So it was
it was hard, and my husband went through it, you know,
come home and just I just wouldn't want to talk
and just want to go to bed and put the
covers over my head, you know, and stuff like that.
So it's hard.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I got to ask you a hip hop question. You
and Tupac were close, Yes, we were very close. How
did you? How did you pop will come so close?
And how did y'all meet?
Speaker 3 (23:14):
We met on tour, he and I. I was on
Heavy D. I was with Heavy D and the boys
and Digital Underground Digital.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, Digital Underground, yep.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
They were opening and I also doubled as a roadie,
meaning I would have to carry their bags. And we're
getting off the Taumac and here comes this guy and
he's carrying their bags and he said what's up? I said, hey,
how you doing? What's up? And like I had my
guard up because you know, misogyny and everything. He goes Unpac.
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I said, what's your name? He goes Pac like Tupac
and I went Tupac. He goes Shakhor. I said, like
the Black Panthers. He goes yo me and you're gonna
be friends. That I knew that. I was like, oh,
And and I said will you carry this bag? He
said sure, and he carried the bag and we and
that was it. That was the beginning of a friendship.
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And then uh, I see him go up on stage,
you know, and he's there dancing doing the Humpty you know,
and and I was like, this guy's a star. And
I remember telling Heavy that got I said, he's a star,
he's a star. Why don't they let him out front?
And and behold, yeah, wow?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Is it is it true that you played wingman with
with him? And Mandonna? Was that true? So you hooked
him up?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
And he went, I was I was dating a rapp
up and I promised that rapper. I would never say
his name to this.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
He knew.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
I was about to ask.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Uh and uh. And we were supposed to go to
so Trim Music wards and at the last minute, literally
half hour before we're getting the calm, I'm like, yo,
where are you late? I can't go? Why can't you go?
Because my girlfriend will see me on the on the
TV screen with you what front? And I lost it
And then hopping to call and he goes, what's wrong?
(25:05):
And I told him I was like steric on the phone.
He's like, yo, f that N word. Yo, I'm going
with you. I said what he said, that's right? He
said fiction makeup. We're going we're gonna roll up in
there like we a couple, and it's gonna kill him.
I was like, what are you talking about. He's like, yo,
I'm telling you get it together. I'm on my way.
(25:26):
We get into the limousine and at that time, nobody
knew I smoked weed. There was only a few people that,
you know, because there was such a stigma back then
and everything. And we get there and he goes and
I'm about to cry. Oh, and we roll out. You know.
When the limousine opened. The door opened, it was like
(25:48):
teaching charm movie. And he grabbed my hand and I
looked at him and and he goes, I got you
com down. He said, we're gonna be fronting right now.
I said, okay. There were so many women in the
music industry that wanted to beat my ass. They were
coming up to him like, oh, that's you, now, that's
that's you. And I'm like, you know, and I was like,
(26:14):
and I was getting mad at him. I was like, yo, man,
who else? What are the girls gonna come up here?
And then he was cracking up. And then this one girl,
she was a rapper too, she came up and she
tried to get in my face and I looked at
part and I said, you better tell her to step off.
You better tell her that I'm not the one. You
better tell her that I will beat her fucking air.
(26:39):
And he was like, that's my girl. And I'm like,
it's not funny, you know what. I really thought I
was gonna get it. So I was like, I don't
want to be around you right now. And so then
I go to the bathroom and Madge Madonna was there
and she was like you with him. I was like, no, no,
this was all this is all fake, this is all phony,
(27:01):
and she goes, oh, could you hook me up? I went, yeah,
get away from him. And I went over there and
I told him. He's like, yo, what's up? And I
was like, she's over there. And he left me. He
left me, and and he went he went with her,
and even like after the show was over, I was like,
where is he? He was gone, he was gone. I
(27:22):
saw him at the after party.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Yeah, yeah, so they had a good time.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Now we're just good friends after that.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Yeah. Yeah, we've always been good friends. Yeah, We've always
were good friends and stuff, and you know, you know,
we we we had our differences every now and then,
and but we always stayed pus. Yeah, and he was
a good guy.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Before we get to the first Lady of Box and
I got to ask, there's always been rumors that you
and j Lo had beef?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Is that any true for that? No?
Speaker 3 (27:51):
You know, all I want to say about that is
I'm a grown ass woman and I wish her well, Hm,
I really do. There's no room for that. We're old,
we're grown, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Now let's talk about the first Lydia Boxing. You're going
to be hosting and being a commentator for the Jake
Paul Tyson fight.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yes, how did that come about? Oh?
Speaker 3 (28:11):
My gosh, I got a call. I couldn't believe it.
First I thought it was Keky and Mike, Kiki Tyson
and Mike Tyson who daily And I said, Kiki, did
you do this? She would no, I don't even know
about it. So it was Netflix, MVP and and the
executive producers of the event. They're the ones that came
up with the idea. And I was in shock. And
(28:34):
at first I was just supposed to be a co
host with Kat Kate Kate abdul Scott now and I
was excited, just for that, because I totally respect this woman.
She is so respected in the sports world. You know,
she also does soccer what they called football over there
and everything, and she does really well, very very fine
job with boxing as well. And then they came back
(28:58):
and they said, you know what, weaned our mind. We
want you to do color commentary. And I went, no, no, no, no, no,
you should leave that to the professionals. And they said,
we just want the voice that you have on Twitter,
the voice that you have when you are hanging out
with boxing people. That's what we want from you. And
so we did a test run and it was me
(29:20):
Morrow Nalo and Roy Jones Junior, and we watched the
fight with the sound off as if we were gonna
do it. And I was so nervous at first, and
then as it was going on and on, I'm getting
so into it and I'm cracking jokes and I'm like, yo,
did you see that shot? Oh my god, with the
(29:41):
left just down. And so when it was over, I thought,
they're not going to hire me for this, and my manager, Tark,
was like, we'll hear from them probably on Monday, and
he went thing, he went, oh shit, they just hired you.
For it. I was like, oh my god, so the
pressure is.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
On, but definitely congratulations. That's amazing.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
I can't wait to hear your voice just commentating on
a fight.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
That's going to be so good for me.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
I love the voice going on.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
I just hope I just stay with the fun. You
know what they were telling me. The executive producers are
from HBO Boxing, HBO Boxing After Dogs, So I actually
know those guys. And what I really love about the
boxing world, they tell you straight. They don't sugar cold,
they don't you know, hamp for you. He's like, uh,
you know, we're doing more rehearsals. He goes, okay, Rose,
(30:36):
don't don't do it like that now, don't you know.
And so it's like, thank you, I appreciate it. I
appreciate it, you know. So I'm very excited about it.
I'm ecstatic about it actually. And I got to be
in the fighters meeting for the first time in my life.
That's that was a dream. And fighters meeting is that
before the fights, you interview the boxers and you get to.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
Ask some questions right before the day of the fight.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
No, no, no, this is a week before we all
had it, and you know, so being on the on
there with Mario Barrios and Katie Taylor, Amanda Surroundo, Jake Paul,
Mike Tyson. Well, actually I missed the one with Jake
Paul because I had to do the Fallon show. But
andre Ward I said, make sure you ask him this
question for me. And so when I saw the playback
(31:20):
he did, he goes Roseby Prez said she has she
wants me to ask you this, and he was like,
oh cool, that's what's up. You know. So and you know,
and I know a lot of people give Jake Paul
a lot of crap. I just I used to too.
I used to give him a lot of crop, like
what is he doing? This is a dangerous sport. You
don't play boxing, you know, And I don't want him
(31:42):
to get hurt. And people were, you know, downing him
and stuff. But what he did for boxing, what he
did for Amanda surround On My Girl and Katie Taylor
and got them paid things that promoters and networks that
could never happen for women. He goes, really, let me
show you how to do it, and he did it.
(32:02):
He did it, and after the Amanda Surrounded On Katie
Taylor fight, we will leave in the stadium. And I
was really a sex because I thought Amanda won that fight.
And I saw Jake coming down the hallway and he
had tears in his heart because it's fight a loss,
and I went, you're really true blue boxing? Yeah, man,
and I and I and he went like this, and
(32:23):
I shook his hand and I said, I respect you, sir,
and this is that means a lot to me. I said,
you mean a lot to box, and I respect you.
You really did it, You really put your your money
where your mouth was, and and good ship. So it
was good. It was good.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
So who's your favorite in the fight? Who do you
want to win? Can you say? Or now that you're
a commentation.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Because you you know, because of course you came you
come from the age of Mike Tyson, right, so I
would just have to say, you leaning, you're not gonna
say it, but you've seen the Tyson fights. You've seen
him knock people out in the streets. So it's almost
like you want to see Mike just one good time.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yeah. Yeah, well, you know, let.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Me try, let me try and get something, all right.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
You gotta tell us who you want to win or
the ramper that you dated, Yeah, you had a third one.
I know I'm not saying it all right, cool, I
try to try to step you up.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
You know, I could give my opinions on the fight
as opposed to who I want to win. So with
Jake Paul and Mike Tyson, I think it's gonna be
it could go either way, honestly, because Jake has his youth,
(33:49):
so there's that stamina that he has an advantage of.
He's been more active. That's a big asset in boxing.
You have to stay active. But the latest videos from
Mike Tyson on social media, You're like, what that is
not the Mike Tyson who even went up against what
(34:09):
was it four or five years ago against Roy Jones
Junior in an exhibition fight. Right, So this is a
two eight fight, two minute, eight round fight, and if
he's looking that good, I think Jake Paul should take
it very seriously. And in the fighters meeting he said
he is taking it seriously. He's not. He believes he
could win. He has that champion belief. But Tyson interviewing him,
(34:35):
it was eerie. It was eerie because he was not
messing around. He was all business. Because I know Mike
Mike is goofy, and he's funny, and he's emotional and
this he had boom in fight mode zone I'm not playing,
And I said, wow, everybody on the fighters meeting, we
(34:58):
were all like and even the guy the executives, anybody
else has another question. They were good. So that's why
I'm saying, Wow, Okay, this is gonna be a really
good one.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
You know, what are the rules? Just so you know
before you get about here are the rules change?
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Because we heard that the gloves are gonna be bigger,
and at one time we heard that they're gonna be
wearing a face mask, but that's not true. So are
there any rules outside of the normal boxing thing that
people should be looking forward to besides the too.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Many eight rounds?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
No, I think it's and the bigger gloves.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
What I think is it's gonna be a real fight.
And I think it was really smart of MVP Promotions
and Netflix to have legitimate boxing matches on that card.
It's not just no disrespect, not just a bunch of
YouTubers or boxers or UFC fighters past their prime. You
(35:51):
have Mario Burials fighting. He is a real champion and
a real contender and he does not play that man
is people spect him. He's a warrior. And then you
have Amanda Sorranto Katie Taylor too. Something boxing fans have
been waiting for forever for these two hopping because it
was supposed to hopping and then the things fell through.
(36:13):
So I think that it's gonna do well. I thought
it was a very very smart thing for those two
companies to put on because boxing fans are going to
watch it because of those two and Mike Tyson, of course,
you know what I mean. And the world is gonna
watch it because of Mike Tyson. You know. Yes, Jake
(36:34):
Paul is going to bring a younger crowd and he
always does. That's why he feels the stadium and everything
like that. But worldwide, people of a certain age, they're
tuning in for Mike Tyson.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Well, we appreciate you for joining us today, Rosie, ladies
and gentlemen. She's gonna be commentating to fight.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
This Friday, right this Friday, this Friday on Netflix.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Now you don't have to pay Netflix, as long as
you have a Netflix membership, you can watch.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
It right yes, and also the pre Limb are gonna
be on YouTube on m VP's YouTube for free and
on Netflix YouTube channel. I didn't even know they had
a YouTube channel. It's called toadum, you know because of
the sound. So it's called Netflix Tadam. And you can
wash the prelims there, and please wash the prelims, especially
(37:18):
if you're a boxing fan, because Shoeshoe Bruce Shoeshoe Carrington
is going to be the opening belt and he is.
That's Brooklyn's own, Brownsville's own. Uh never ran, never will
and uh so that's gonna be an exciting fight. I'm
gonna call that one just because I'm such a Shoeshoe fan,
but I'm not gonna call the rest of the color
(37:40):
commentation on the rest of the prelims. Amyir Tyson, Mike
Tyson's son is going to be doing that, okay, and
then I'll come back for the main card.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
All right, Well, we appreciate you for joining us this morning.
Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
It's Rosie Perez. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Take
that answer up in the morning. Breakfast Club
All right, fans, we got an absolute insane matchup between
one of the goats in the sport and a new
rival on the scene.
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Speaker 2 (00:46):
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
The Breakfast Club Morning, everybody's dej nv Jess hilarious, Charlamagne
the God we are the Breakfast Club. We got a
special guest in the building, the icon living Rosie Perez. Welcome.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Thank you so much. Are you feeling I'm feeling great?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
You got showed me a berthertificate or some idea or
something I refuse to believe you sixty years I refuse
to believe that you just earned sixteen September.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I refuse to believe that, yes.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I am sixty years old. And everyone keeps telling me
I'm sixty years old, but it's all good. Wow.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
What did you do to celebrate your sixtieth birthday?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
My husband gave me like a really amazing party. I'm
a homebody. I don't like to really do a lot
of stuff, and I have a small group of friends.
And at first it was supposed to be like forty people,
and I thought that was a lot.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
And you thought forty people was a lot.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, Okay, I come from I don't know if you
know this about me, but I come from the hip
hop world first, and I got so tired of partying
and so tired of I'm just over it. But eighty
two people showed up yeah to my party, and I
was walking around, like, who the hell are you? Did you?
(01:58):
Like it was somebody. My daughter was like, I need
to calm down. I was like, no, I don't. I'm
sixty years old, damn it. Right. Party.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
By the way, they only bring you up your age
because you don't look at no like oh congratulations you
turned sixty.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
That's the only reason.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Well, thank you. I think you know what I think
it is. Also what a part of it is. I
was straight edge until I was twenty four years old
and drink and smoke, only had coffee water. That was it.
And I just think that it benefited me in the
long run.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Absolutely dead.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
You have an iconic career, you stay booked and busy
for years you've been, But how is that?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I just keep I just you know what it is.
It's like I love boxing and I believe in that
champion spirit, and anytime I got knocked down, I just
I just rush it off. I'm like, okay, let's go,
you know what I mean. Like my life was hard
as a child, you know, not getting a roll, It's
not hard. That's just part of life and it's fine.
(03:03):
And I also think it's because any other actors are listening,
don't be afraid of audition. Don't think you're above it,
because that's bullshit. Excuse me, I'm sorry, Okay, okay. And
because I was a choreographer and all the dancers that
didn't want to audition for me didn't get the job.
(03:24):
Like I had to see what you had you know
what I mean. It may be different. I know your
great da so, but it may not fit the video
that that I'm working for right now. So it's like that.
And also be on time, be professional, be courteous, and
be prepared. And so I think that that has offered
me longevity as well, you know, because people will say, Okay,
(03:47):
she works really really hard, go ahead and hire her.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
What was your big acting break? I know everybody always
talk about you want to live in color, But what
was the acting break, Like, what was the role that
caused everything to.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Take off for you?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
What was my first role? It was the right thing, okay,
but what really really set it off, in my opinion,
was white Man Cancer.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Absolutely yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
And I fought hard for that one. I fought hard.
I was the only person of color in the casting
room and it was all just a sea of white
ladies and I was like, oh, dear God, and yeah,
but it's just like that, It's like, all right, it's
another championship round, let's go, let's go. And and man,
did I have to talk myself down from the edge.
(04:32):
It was. It was really tough. But yeah, I think
that was the one that really did it.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
How difficult was it back then? Because we all love
your accent.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
But back then, you know, when you're going into these rooms,
they might be like, well, who was this accent?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
You know? She said was to New York? Was that
ever a problem?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
All the time? All the time it was was a problem.
And then I would bring up other actors. I was like,
you don't have a problem with this accent. She's French,
Why why you don't have a problem with her? But
this person is British. Why don't you have a problem
with hars You're racism showing. I'm like, yeah, I said it,
you know, and that's who I just was, That's who
I am, you know. And I would challenge them on
(05:08):
it and everything, and sometimes it didn't work out, but
a lot of times it did. And when I first
went into the industry, the backlash that I really got
was from the Latino community. You're telling me, shut up,
sit down, stop rocking the boat. And I was like,
rocking the boat. I was like, what are you talking about?
All the struggles that you had and have done for me,
(05:32):
Let me relish in it, you know what I mean? Like,
what are you talking about? Why aren't you celebrating the
fruits of your struggle. Why in rock I don't want
to be in that boat, oh my own boat, you know.
And it was so that was really hurtful. That was
something I had to push through and it was just
it was just difficult, Like people don't understand how difficult
(05:52):
it was for me. But I just, like I said,
I just kept focused and just kept pushing through, just
gowing up.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
And it's crazy because that you don't realize until you
get older, like you were kind of like the only
one back then, but you know, we didn't we didn't
realize that. We just saw you on TV and oh
that's Rosie Perez, But yeah, you were like the only
one back then.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
I was the only one. I was the only one.
And it was hard also to fight against repeating performances
like I want you to do what you didn't do
the right thing, No, I want to do that, and
then it was okay, I want you to do what
you did in White Man can't Jump. No, I don't
want to do that. And then it's like I get fearless.
That was another oh my God, talked about. They made
(06:32):
me audition four times for that role and Fearless, and
it was a dramatic role. They didn't want me. They
wanted an Irish American woman, which was screwed up because
it was based on a real story and the real
character was Asian American, right, And so they were saying,
we think that the interracial aspect between you and Jeff
(06:54):
Bridges is a concern. So we actually were supposed to
have a love scene in that movie, and they cut it.
They thought that the audience wouldn't be prepared for it,
ready for it, but it was. It just was really
really hard, Like people don't understand. It was really really hard.
(07:14):
And I just kept you know, you want me to
audition four times. I'm gonna audition four times. I'm not
gonna let you see me sweat. I probably would go
home and cry about it, and then the phone would ring,
they want you back. I'm there, I'm there, I'm gonna
get on the plane. I'm there. I'm there. Because I
really wanted it, you know, I really really really wanted it.
And then when Fearless came around, they were like, oh
my god, you could do something different. I said, I've
(07:36):
been doing something different. I've been doing something different. That's
your limitations that you're not able to see that I
have been doing something different. And throughout my career, every
single role that I've had, they always go, this is
such a different role for you, and I go, you
said that last time, an the other time before, and
the other time before, and you know, it's just it
(07:57):
just is what it is. And I tell other people,
whether they're you know, Latino or not, if they're if
they're a minority in this country, I was like, fight
for what you want. I mean, don't wait for your
seat at the table, you know what I mean, prepare
your own table.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I want to know way where you where you got
to start from?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Right, because you just weren't an actress, you were a dancer, choreographer.
What was the start to say this is what I
wanted to do. What did you see that say, you
know what, I want to be in that business? Because
you could have did anything. You could have said, I
want to be an astronaut, I want to be a doctor,
I want to be an attorney. But you wanted to
go into that. What got you into that and who
pushed you towards that?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Especially back then?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Well, actually I was in college to become a marine biologist,
so I was studying biocamp and then I meet the
casting the talent scout for Soul Train didn't take it seriously.
I just thought it was fun until my father made
me quit. God Rest his Soul. And then when I
met Little Silas Junior, god Rest is Soul. He was
(08:54):
an all guy at MCA Records, and he said he
came a sultiant and he goes, why aren't you and
something like that on the camera. I said, don Cornelist
doesn't like it. He goes, what's that? That's hip hop? Right? So, yeah,
that's hip hop. He says, I want you to teach
that to an artist I have. He's going to leave
this boy band. I said, who is it? Because I'm
not going to tell you. Just show up and I said, well,
(09:15):
I'm not a choreographer. He goes, I'll pay you sixteen
hundred a day. I said, I'll see you Monday, right,
And so when I got there, I didn't know I
was supposed to show him a routine. I made up
the whole thing on the spot, right, And it was
pretty bad when I made up and everything. And that
was Bobby Brown. So it was my first still. I
went back to school and it wasn't until Spike Lee
(09:38):
came into my life.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
But what video was it for Bobby Brown?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
So we could go back and look, I did two
videos was don't be cruel and my prerogative. I'm the
one that heart and soul for him.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
And and then when he every little step I take,
he didn't hire me, and I was heart proged. But
he hired Heart and so on, and I was happy
for them, and and I had to I told him.
I called him up. I was like, y'all killed it, man,
I hate to say it. And it became his most
iconic video.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Those guys had a Spike Lee. You said you met
Spike Lee? How did you meet Spike Lee?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I met him in a nightclub and we got in
an argument and he said this is fate. And I
thought he was trying to hit on me, and I
was like, you wish and he just kind of stopped
cracking up, and he was like, no, no, no, I'm
a director, film director. And I was like what it
was my girlfriend, my college buddy, Mary Wade. I went
to throw out the his business card and she went
in the garbage and took it out. She goes, are
(10:35):
you stupid? Just give him a call. And then he
asked me to audition for Do the Right Thing, and
I did it. And then after we filmed it, I
went back to school. I'm thinking whatever. And it wasn't
until I went to the premiere and I saw the
magic all come together and that was it. I remember
sitting I don't think I've had said this to anybody.
(10:56):
I was sitting in the in the theater. Here's we're
going down And one of my half sisters thought it
was because of the nudity, and it wasn't. It was
just like, my life has to change. This is what
I want to do. And that was it. That was
a turning point, the.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Most classic scene, one of the most classic scenes in
black cinema history. Though there wasn't nothing to cry over.
I had a lot of us doing that ice cube move,
a lot of us doing the ice cube move because.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
And what did your parents say when they when they
seen that, and you were going college, you were going
to be a marine biologist, and now you were doing
something that at the time, I would say most parents,
especially in our community, did not understand in the black
and brown community like that.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
My father was very upset. He was very upset. He
was very upset with me on soul train and that's
the reason why I stopped dancing. He was like, no,
I don't know who you are coming down that line.
And I was, oh my god, and I quit and
everybody was like, why are you quitting? I said, my
father told me to quit, and being in California, they
didn't understand that. They didn't understand the culture. And I
(12:00):
was like, my father told me to quit. I have
to quit.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
How old are you?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
I think I was nineteen twenty. And then when I
did do the right thing, I called up my god
and I said, I just want to tell you it's
an artistic film. He goes, okay, and I said okay,
and I thought he understood. And he had a viewing
(12:23):
party in Puerto Rico and invited the whole entire town Jesus,
and they said that he went into cardiac did and died.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
He he was like grab they were telling me.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I was like, oh my gosh. And I called him
up and I was crying. I was like, I'm so sorry.
He goes next time, next time, you tell me, and
he says, but you're a grown woman now and I
can't tell you what to do, and I'll support you.
But please, please don't humiliate me again.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
What was most enjoyable for you?
Speaker 6 (12:56):
Dancing or acting? Like which one is more easier and
more enjoyable.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I don't know. That's a good question.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Should you be killing it on the dance tip, but
then you kill it in the films?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
So like the dancing, the dancing, like, I don't know,
that's that's that's that's a true love for me. Yeah,
I've always been dancing. But the acting, you know, you
know when you get that one lover and you can't
get it out of your mind, you can't get him
(13:28):
out of your mind, and like he just puts it
on you and you're.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Like, yes, ma'am, I just had a baby, so I
know all about that.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
Yes, all about that.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yeah, that's what acting is, Okay, I got you.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah, I was gonna ask you know.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
You choreographed so many different videos from Jenny Jackson, Bobby Brown,
ll cool J, Diana Ross.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
What was your favorite and why?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
My favorite client was Heavy D and the Boys because
I loved Harry. I loved him and I had a
lot of fun. My best client was cool J because
Todd was the most professional person I had ever worked with.
He That's why he's still in the game now, like
he just I mean, at such a young age, he
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just had his stuff locked down and he was like,
this is how we are gonna go. But I would
say my favorite was Diana Ross. She didn't show up
to any of the rehearsals. I was pissed. I was like,
I'm gonna quit, and it was like, don't quit, don't quit.
And then I was like, when she shows up, I'm
gonna tell her something. And her daughters, Tracy and Chutney
(14:33):
came to see me. They're like, oh my god, Mon's
darting to see you. And I was like, yeah, okay,
I'm dying to see hotel. And so they opened up
the trail her doses high.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
I go.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
And I was like, oh my god, the boss, the boss,
and she said come on in. I said really, and
I just turned to mush. And then she gets up.
There no rehearsal. She says, let me see that hippie
hop fell out lamping and I showed her a few steps.
Got it like that, really got it like that, and
(15:06):
she was just game. She was like wow. And I
just love professionals, you know, I just really love people
who come with the a game. I just love that.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
You know, how difficult was it being a woman? You know,
in the industry coming up back then? You know, we
hear about so many different stories of men trying to
take advances and so many different things.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Was that is difficult for you as well?
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
What was the hardest point? Was one thing that you remember?
You would like I just remember this moment to this day,
and I wish that on no other woman.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
It was a person, and everyone wants me to say
his name, but I'm like, his life is shit now,
So it's okay. He got his come up and sp
went to an audition and people are like, well, why
did you go to so and Soul's hotel room? That's
what they used to do. Like even for Fearless, I
met the casting director and the director Peter Weir in
a hotel room, and you auditioned for them. And so
(15:58):
this one individual wanted me to meet with him. And
my first thing was like, why is it so late
at night? I don't feel comfortable. Oh no, no, no,
don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. When I
went there, he starts rubbing my shoulders and I said, well,
are you rubbing my shoulders. He said, you're oh so tight,
you need a relax And I said, okay, but you
(16:19):
don't have to rub my shoulders please, And he goes,
you know what, your career is not going to go far.
And I said, why is that. He goes, you don't
even want me to give you a massage. I said,
I thought this was an audition. I don't need a massage,
and he goes, We're done. Wow, you know, like somebody else,
a different young woman who is not as strong when
(16:40):
I've probably caved, you know, people like try to blame
that type of woman. That's not the woman's fault. It's
that asshole's form, you know. But it has happened to me,
you know, especially in the music industry. Music industry was
really tough. The missogyny was enorm and I had to
(17:01):
fight against it all the time, all the time. And
god forbid, if you actually like somebody in the music
industry and you wanted to go out with them, then
you would label the whore like these. Meanwhile, all the
men are screwing everything that walks, and so it was
really hard.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
It was.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
It was very very difficult, you know, but I developed
a reputation and it was to my benefit. You know.
They're like, oh my gosh, she's such a bit and
I was like, yes, i am, so don't try it,
you know, but it was it was hard, It was
very difficult.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
You feel like you opened the door for a lot
of people, like let's say, like a Jennifer Lopez and
dancers and actresses, especially Latino that came in after you.
Do you feel like you were the one that opened
that door.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
For I don't know if I opened the door for people.
I will say this, I stood my ground and paid
a heavy price for it at times, and I'm glad
I did it. If it benefited somebody, I'm very happy
about that. You know, there was others before me that
you know, open doors like you know, you because someone
like Cheeta Rivera or Rita Morano, Raul Julia, Raul Julia
(18:05):
got rest his soul. He was the only Latino actor
that supported me when I first came out. And I
remember I went up to him and he was at
an award show and he says, I like you, You're good,
and I said, oh my gosh, I said thank you
so much. He goes, don't let anyone tell you different.
And you know, what don't lose the accent, screw them all?
(18:26):
And I said, wow, like I just couldn't believe it.
And his wife goes, he really likes what you do.
And I went back over to him and I went,
mister Julia. He goes, Raoul, and I go, Raoul, you
really think I'm good? And he said yeah, and he says,
and you gotta think you're good, because nobody else will
think you're good if you don't think you're good. He says,
(18:47):
we'll remember that.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I was always surprised that you that they I don't
say they didn't force you, but they never tried to
change you as far as your accent is concerned.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Right, some roles, some roles, and you know what's some
you know what's so funny about that, Like some roles,
I won't have an accent. And because they asked, I'm
all right if if it's not relevant to the character,
I'll say no. You know, we need all space on
the screen too, you know. But the times that I
wouldn't do in my accent, people online would actually complained,
(19:22):
oh she's trying to be right now, I'm like, I
can't win, you know what I mean. And it's just like,
it is what it is.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
You know, it is what it is.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
But was there ever a role that that you went
out for that you didn't get that you really wanted?
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Yeah, okay, a lot.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
When was the Matrix? I had the worst audition of
my life. They laughed me out of the role. I
don't even want to tell you because it was such
a humiliation. It was terrible. It was terrible. I swear
to god, I don't even want to all. But it's
funny because the cast is directed us, like I know,
(19:58):
I didn't get. She goes she's walking me out of
the room and the two brothers they're looking at me.
That was great. I said, no, one, stop lying, stop lying,
and then they start laughing. And then I was like, anyway, bye,
and she's still laughing. And when I closed the door,
I hear it was. It was terrible. It was. It
(20:24):
was terrible. That's when I went over to my best
friend Pie at Julie's house. It was waiting, Yeah, eleven
thirty in the morning with a join and a glass
of wine. Yeah, that was one. Another one was I
forgot the name of the movie, but Drew Barrymore got it.
I wanted so badly but yeah, I didn't audition for
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that one. They were going to meet with me, but
then they said, oh, we've already made a decision, and
I said, oh man. And but I couldn't hate on
her because she was so good in it too, you know.
So yeah, so there were a.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
Couple talk to us about before the new Apple TV
series What is that about?
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Oh? That is really it's it's a psychological thriller. It's
really kind of creepy. The kid in it is really fantastic.
Billy Cristo is amazing in it. Home Caster is Judith Light,
Hope Davis all the way down, Robert Townsend, Oh wow, Yeah,
he's great in it. But it's about a man who
recently experienced the death of his wife and he's in
(21:27):
denial of it and he's not grieving properly. And then
he meets this boy. This boy just shows upbout his
house and he doesn't understand why this boy is gravitating
to him. And I play the boy's forster mother and
h and he's very he's a very troubled young kid.
And so what the real theme is about the show
(21:49):
is about is that if you don't get past your past,
it will come back and haunt you. And so in
this move in this TV series, it really is haunting
the things that he won't deal with. And it's also
about past lives, like sometimes if you don't deal with
your trauma, you'll come back to this earth maybe as
another person or another being, but that trauma will come
(22:11):
and double itself until you deal with it. So that's
not really what the series is about.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Was this role of challenge at all was a big
very different from.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Yeah it is, and it was it was I didn't
want it at first, and Billy was like, oh no,
I got you, don't worry about it, and he was
very supportive. But I gained twenty over twenty pounds during shooting.
You know. Every time it just got too difficult, I
would go over to the craft service and go on, you know,
and war Trump was like, it's press. They had to
(22:46):
take my costumes out a couple of times. A couple
of times they had to like throw away costumes like
I thought I was wearing that, you don't fit in
that anymore? Oh my god, you know. So it was
it was hard, and my husband went through it, you know,
come home and just I just wouldn't want to talk
and just want to go to bed and put the
covers over my head, you know, and stuff like that.
So it's hard.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I got to ask you a hip hop question. You
and Tupac were close, Yes, we were very close. How
did you? How did you pop will come so close?
And how did y'all meet?
Speaker 3 (23:14):
We met on tour, he and I. I was on
Heavy D. I was with Heavy D and the boys
and Digital Underground Digital.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, Digital Underground, yep.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
They were opening and I also doubled as a roadie,
meaning I would have to carry their bags. And we're
getting off the Taumac and here comes this guy and
he's carrying their bags and he said what's up? I said, hey,
how you doing? What's up? And like I had my
guard up because you know, misogyny and everything. He goes Unpac.
(23:46):
I said, what's your name? He goes Pac like Tupac
and I went Tupac. He goes Shakhor. I said, like
the Black Panthers. He goes yo me and you're gonna
be friends. That I knew that. I was like, oh,
And and I said will you carry this bag? He
said sure, and he carried the bag and we and
that was it. That was the beginning of a friendship.
(24:07):
And then uh, I see him go up on stage,
you know, and he's there dancing doing the Humpty you know,
and and I was like, this guy's a star. And
I remember telling Heavy that got I said, he's a star,
he's a star. Why don't they let him out front?
And and behold, yeah, wow?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Is it is it true that you played wingman with
with him? And Mandonna? Was that true? So you hooked
him up?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
And he went, I was I was dating a rapp
up and I promised that rapper. I would never say
his name to this.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
He knew.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
I was about to ask.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Uh and uh. And we were supposed to go to
so Trim Music wards and at the last minute, literally
half hour before we're getting the calm, I'm like, yo,
where are you late? I can't go? Why can't you go?
Because my girlfriend will see me on the on the
TV screen with you what front? And I lost it
And then hopping to call and he goes, what's wrong?
(25:05):
And I told him I was like steric on the phone.
He's like, yo, f that N word. Yo, I'm going
with you. I said what he said, that's right? He
said fiction makeup. We're going we're gonna roll up in
there like we a couple, and it's gonna kill him.
I was like, what are you talking about. He's like, yo,
I'm telling you get it together. I'm on my way.
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We get into the limousine and at that time, nobody
knew I smoked weed. There was only a few people that,
you know, because there was such a stigma back then
and everything. And we get there and he goes and
I'm about to cry. Oh, and we roll out. You know.
When the limousine opened. The door opened, it was like
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teaching charm movie. And he grabbed my hand and I
looked at him and and he goes, I got you
com down. He said, we're gonna be fronting right now.
I said, okay. There were so many women in the
music industry that wanted to beat my ass. They were
coming up to him like, oh, that's you, now, that's
that's you. And I'm like, you know, and I was like,
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and I was getting mad at him. I was like, yo, man,
who else? What are the girls gonna come up here?
And then he was cracking up. And then this one girl,
she was a rapper too, she came up and she
tried to get in my face and I looked at
part and I said, you better tell her to step off.
You better tell her that I'm not the one. You
better tell her that I will beat her fucking air.
(26:39):
And he was like, that's my girl. And I'm like,
it's not funny, you know what. I really thought I
was gonna get it. So I was like, I don't
want to be around you right now. And so then
I go to the bathroom and Madge Madonna was there
and she was like you with him. I was like, no, no,
this was all this is all fake, this is all phony,
(27:01):
and she goes, oh, could you hook me up? I went, yeah,
get away from him. And I went over there and
I told him. He's like, yo, what's up? And I
was like, she's over there. And he left me. He
left me, and and he went he went with her,
and even like after the show was over, I was like,
where is he? He was gone, he was gone. I
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saw him at the after party.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Yeah, yeah, so they had a good time.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Now we're just good friends after that.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Yeah. Yeah, we've always been good friends. Yeah, We've always
were good friends and stuff, and you know, you know,
we we we had our differences every now and then,
and but we always stayed pus. Yeah, and he was
a good guy.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Before we get to the first Lady of Box and
I got to ask, there's always been rumors that you
and j Lo had beef?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Is that any true for that? No?
Speaker 3 (27:51):
You know, all I want to say about that is
I'm a grown ass woman and I wish her well, Hm,
I really do. There's no room for that. We're old,
we're grown, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Now let's talk about the first Lydia Boxing. You're going
to be hosting and being a commentator for the Jake
Paul Tyson fight.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yes, how did that come about? Oh?
Speaker 3 (28:11):
My gosh, I got a call. I couldn't believe it.
First I thought it was Keky and Mike, Kiki Tyson
and Mike Tyson who daily And I said, Kiki, did
you do this? She would no, I don't even know
about it. So it was Netflix, MVP and and the
executive producers of the event. They're the ones that came
up with the idea. And I was in shock. And
(28:34):
at first I was just supposed to be a co
host with Kat Kate Kate abdul Scott now and I
was excited, just for that, because I totally respect this woman.
She is so respected in the sports world. You know,
she also does soccer what they called football over there
and everything, and she does really well, very very fine
job with boxing as well. And then they came back
(28:58):
and they said, you know what, weaned our mind. We
want you to do color commentary. And I went, no, no, no, no, no,
you should leave that to the professionals. And they said,
we just want the voice that you have on Twitter,
the voice that you have when you are hanging out
with boxing people. That's what we want from you. And
so we did a test run and it was me
(29:20):
Morrow Nalo and Roy Jones Junior, and we watched the
fight with the sound off as if we were gonna
do it. And I was so nervous at first, and
then as it was going on and on, I'm getting
so into it and I'm cracking jokes and I'm like, yo,
did you see that shot? Oh my god, with the
(29:41):
left just down. And so when it was over, I thought,
they're not going to hire me for this, and my manager, Tark,
was like, we'll hear from them probably on Monday, and
he went thing, he went, oh shit, they just hired you.
For it. I was like, oh my god, so the
pressure is.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
On, but definitely congratulations. That's amazing.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
I can't wait to hear your voice just commentating on
a fight.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
That's going to be so good for me.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
I love the voice going on.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
I just hope I just stay with the fun. You
know what they were telling me. The executive producers are
from HBO Boxing, HBO Boxing After Dogs, So I actually
know those guys. And what I really love about the
boxing world, they tell you straight. They don't sugar cold,
they don't you know, hamp for you. He's like, uh,
you know, we're doing more rehearsals. He goes, okay, Rose,
(30:36):
don't don't do it like that now, don't you know.
And so it's like, thank you, I appreciate it. I
appreciate it, you know. So I'm very excited about it.
I'm ecstatic about it actually. And I got to be
in the fighters meeting for the first time in my life.
That's that was a dream. And fighters meeting is that
before the fights, you interview the boxers and you get to.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
Ask some questions right before the day of the fight.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
No, no, no, this is a week before we all
had it, and you know, so being on the on
there with Mario Barrios and Katie Taylor, Amanda Surroundo, Jake Paul,
Mike Tyson. Well, actually I missed the one with Jake
Paul because I had to do the Fallon show. But
andre Ward I said, make sure you ask him this
question for me. And so when I saw the playback
(31:20):
he did, he goes Roseby Prez said she has she
wants me to ask you this, and he was like,
oh cool, that's what's up. You know. So and you know,
and I know a lot of people give Jake Paul
a lot of crap. I just I used to too.
I used to give him a lot of crop, like
what is he doing? This is a dangerous sport. You
don't play boxing, you know, And I don't want him
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to get hurt. And people were, you know, downing him
and stuff. But what he did for boxing, what he
did for Amanda surround On My Girl and Katie Taylor
and got them paid things that promoters and networks that
could never happen for women. He goes, really, let me
show you how to do it, and he did it.
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He did it, and after the Amanda Surrounded On Katie
Taylor fight, we will leave in the stadium. And I
was really a sex because I thought Amanda won that fight.
And I saw Jake coming down the hallway and he
had tears in his heart because it's fight a loss,
and I went, you're really true blue boxing? Yeah, man,
and I and I and he went like this, and
(32:23):
I shook his hand and I said, I respect you, sir,
and this is that means a lot to me. I said,
you mean a lot to box, and I respect you.
You really did it, You really put your your money
where your mouth was, and and good ship. So it
was good. It was good.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
So who's your favorite in the fight? Who do you
want to win? Can you say? Or now that you're
a commentation.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Because you you know, because of course you came you
come from the age of Mike Tyson, right, so I
would just have to say, you leaning, you're not gonna
say it, but you've seen the Tyson fights. You've seen
him knock people out in the streets. So it's almost
like you want to see Mike just one good time.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yeah. Yeah, well, you know, let.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Me try, let me try and get something, all right.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
You gotta tell us who you want to win or
the ramper that you dated, Yeah, you had a third one.
I know I'm not saying it all right, cool, I
try to try to step you up.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
You know, I could give my opinions on the fight
as opposed to who I want to win. So with
Jake Paul and Mike Tyson, I think it's gonna be
it could go either way, honestly, because Jake has his youth,
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so there's that stamina that he has an advantage of.
He's been more active. That's a big asset in boxing.
You have to stay active. But the latest videos from
Mike Tyson on social media, You're like, what that is
not the Mike Tyson who even went up against what
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was it four or five years ago against Roy Jones
Junior in an exhibition fight. Right, So this is a
two eight fight, two minute, eight round fight, and if
he's looking that good, I think Jake Paul should take
it very seriously. And in the fighters meeting he said
he is taking it seriously. He's not. He believes he
could win. He has that champion belief. But Tyson interviewing him,
(34:35):
it was eerie. It was eerie because he was not
messing around. He was all business. Because I know Mike
Mike is goofy, and he's funny, and he's emotional and
this he had boom in fight mode zone I'm not playing,
And I said, wow, everybody on the fighters meeting, we
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were all like and even the guy the executives, anybody
else has another question. They were good. So that's why
I'm saying, Wow, Okay, this is gonna be a really
good one.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
You know, what are the rules? Just so you know
before you get about here are the rules change?
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Because we heard that the gloves are gonna be bigger,
and at one time we heard that they're gonna be
wearing a face mask, but that's not true. So are
there any rules outside of the normal boxing thing that
people should be looking forward to besides the too.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Many eight rounds?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
No, I think it's and the bigger gloves.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
What I think is it's gonna be a real fight.
And I think it was really smart of MVP Promotions
and Netflix to have legitimate boxing matches on that card.
It's not just no disrespect, not just a bunch of
YouTubers or boxers or UFC fighters past their prime. You
(35:51):
have Mario Burials fighting. He is a real champion and
a real contender and he does not play that man
is people spect him. He's a warrior. And then you
have Amanda Sorranto Katie Taylor too. Something boxing fans have
been waiting for forever for these two hopping because it
was supposed to hopping and then the things fell through.
(36:13):
So I think that it's gonna do well. I thought
it was a very very smart thing for those two
companies to put on because boxing fans are going to
watch it because of those two and Mike Tyson, of course,
you know what I mean. And the world is gonna
watch it because of Mike Tyson. You know. Yes, Jake
(36:34):
Paul is going to bring a younger crowd and he
always does. That's why he feels the stadium and everything
like that. But worldwide, people of a certain age, they're
tuning in for Mike Tyson.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Well, we appreciate you for joining us today, Rosie, ladies
and gentlemen. She's gonna be commentating to fight.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
This Friday, right this Friday, this Friday on Netflix.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Now you don't have to pay Netflix, as long as
you have a Netflix membership, you can watch.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
It right yes, and also the pre Limb are gonna
be on YouTube on m VP's YouTube for free and
on Netflix YouTube channel. I didn't even know they had
a YouTube channel. It's called toadum, you know because of
the sound. So it's called Netflix Tadam. And you can
wash the prelims there, and please wash the prelims, especially
(37:18):
if you're a boxing fan, because Shoeshoe Bruce Shoeshoe Carrington
is going to be the opening belt and he is.
That's Brooklyn's own, Brownsville's own. Uh never ran, never will
and uh so that's gonna be an exciting fight. I'm
gonna call that one just because I'm such a Shoeshoe fan,
but I'm not gonna call the rest of the color
(37:40):
commentation on the rest of the prelims. Amyir Tyson, Mike
Tyson's son is going to be doing that, okay, and
then I'll come back for the main card.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
All right, Well, we appreciate you for joining us this morning.
Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
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