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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The Breakfast Club Morning, Everybody's dej Envy, Charlamagne to God,
Jess hilarious. We are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Now.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Jess is on maternity leave, so we have Lauren LaRosa
filling in and we have a special guest on the
line right now, she's actually out in Dubai. Ladies and gentlemen,
we have Sister Soldier. Welcome peace and how are you feeling?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I feel good?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
You feel good.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Today's pub day, So I'm excited and I hope that,
you know, people will get a chance to read my book,
and people who enjoy the series will like this new edition.
Oh they will.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Now we ask for you to be in person, but
they say, Sister Soldier is in Dubai.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
So have you moved to Dubai?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
What is in Dubai? Why are you in Dubai? Why
did a girl from the Bronx decide she wanted to
go to Dubai to start writing?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Well, I needed some peace in my life. You know.
Writing takes a highlight level of concentration, and so if
I want to concentrate, I need things to quiet down
and be a little steady. And so I had come
here before, maybe around twenty thirteen, and I said, this
(01:16):
would probably be a good place to have that kind
of peace of mind. So much was going on in
the country, as it still is going on, and so
now at least I can concentrate and focus and feel
safe and healthy, and I can watch what's going on
(01:37):
at home from Afar.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You know, peace, How are you? I just walked back.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
I'm blessed black and Holly favor. But I don't blame
you for getting out of here.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, no, I really At the time that I left,
I you know, I was really thinking about it quite clearly,
like could I, you know, move from where I'm rooted.
Can I leave all of my cards and house and
everything and go somewhere else and you know, I don't know,
maybe end up in a little rent a car or something.
(02:11):
But I was like, yep, I can do that, and
I did.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Do you feel a lot of the stuff that you
have talked about and discussed throughout your whole life just
seems like when you go back and look at some
of the things you've talked about, if you've spoken about
the themes, seems like things never change. It's like we're
still having those same conversations, whether it's politics, whether it's
racism in the country, and how do you feel about that.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I think things do change, and I think it's gotten worse.
Actually agree. When I look, you know, at the news,
when I take a break, you know, from my work,
I'm always shocked, like every time, you know, I'm always
(02:56):
shocked at what's going on at home. And the funny
thing as well, it's not really funny, I guess it's ironic.
It's like when I'm working or when I'm with my
family over here, everything is peaceful, and then about six
pm is here is the open of business in America,
And as soon as I hear from my family at home,
(03:18):
I'm like, oh, no, you don't what's next, you know.
Oh that's terrible, that's sad, you know. And I try
to keep my you know, positive outlook, but I just
think that things are not going so well at home.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
What do you think makes Dubai so peaceful?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Order Dubai Uae is an Islamic country, and so it
doesn't have as much of the contradiction or the hypocrisy
that we have at home. I think a lot of
people at home get confused because at home we have
the separation of church and state. That's the way our
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constitution is set up. That's how our system is set up.
And so morality and certain order and certain civility is
not part of the legal code, whereas here the Qur'an
(04:28):
itself is the law. So you have to follow the
guidance and you have to respect the limits. At home.
I think our our appreciation for freedom uh leads us
or misleads us some time to exceed the limits in
(04:51):
ways that is not healthy.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
You know what We're going to talk about a lot
after midnight in one second. But you and the UAE.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Every black woman that I've met that in the UA,
because I love Abu Dhabi, they tell me that they
feel like a white man in America feels in the UAE.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
That's how empowered they feel there. Well.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
UAE is considered the safest country in the world. You
can walk and not feel any kind of anxiety, whether
it's daytime or whether it's nighttime. The police are actually friendly,
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you know, which is mind blowing if you come from
New York City, right and you know, my husband and
I were walking outside one day for exercise doing some cardio,
and a cop car drove by and waved and my
husband was like, he's a Brooklyn cat. He was like,
are they waving at us? Are they trying to tell
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us something? You know, what's up? And I said, no,
they just say and high. They're just saying ah, because
that's how it is out here, you know. Uh, it's
not the police versus the people. It's not. You don't
feel like your blackness is a crime or even a
consideration really, you know. So it's a lot of stress removed,
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especially if you have children, if you're a parent. If
you are a parent and you worry at home, you
worry all the time. Every time your son walks out
the door, every time your daughter, you know, is outside
of your your eyesight. And here because everybody knows what
the rules are and they have to respect the limits
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because the limits are the law.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
You're here to talk about love After Midnight, which is
the latest installment of the Winter Santiago series. For those
who aren't familiar with the series, how would you describe
what the series is about?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Well, I don't know anybody who's not familiar with the
The Coldest Winterever has survived through generations. It's a book
that every new set of thirteen year old girls and
boys read. It's a book that is so popular in
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the prison system, is so popular in all women's gatherings
and even sororities and so on and so forth. So
people who follow this series know the Winter series is
like the coldest winter ever, and then Life After Death
and then Love After Midnight, which is in stores now today.
(07:46):
I also this is the This is my seventh novel,
but this is the first time I ever read the
audio book. So if you buy the book from Audible
or wherever, you're gonna hear my narration of one of
my books, which was a big deal for me because
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I never narrated the books before.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
How was what it changed since Life After Death?
Speaker 3 (08:12):
How has Winter changed? Yeah? I think Winter is so
much like us. In other words, you know how something
spiritual can happen to you, something really big, or you
almost met your demise or death, you had a car
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accident and it spun out of control and you were
hanging over the bridge, or in the case of one
of my sisters, you know, she had a car accident
where a tree fell on her car. And I think
what happens is it's a really big deal when it's happening,
and it's a really big deal when you feel the loss,
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you feel the pain, and you feel the suffering in
life after death. I think so many shocking, unknown things
happened to went to Santiago, and when she came out
of that experience, really by the grace of God, she
was very clear about it. But most like most of us,
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we forget. You know, one day you were praying and
thanking God, and then two weeks later you're like born
with the show. So I think she has changed in
some ways. She knows that there is a God, and
I don't think before her death experience she knew that.
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She is all about her business now and now her
hustle is legal, it is not illegal, and that's a
big deal. Her father, Santiago, is her manager. Now she
has her own reality show. She has a lot of
leverage though, because she has a brother in law who
is in the film industry, is quite popular and quite powerful.
(10:10):
So how she juggles is what we'll see when to
go through in Love After Midnight, and how she pursues
the thing she wants in her life, like she wants
she wants a man, but she's looking for a man
that feels like the men of the nineties, and she's
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is no longer the nineties now it's the twenty first century.
And she don't like these new dudes. So she's disappointed
because she doesn't have somebody that you know, she really feels,
you know, deeply connected to, and so she's pursuing that.
But she's very picky and she'll she'll you know, choose
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somebody up and spit them out in an instance. So
it's good for her business wise, financially, it's good for
her family wise. Uh, it's it's a struggle for her
because she has a certain kind of personality. But I
think that people will love Love after Midnight. I call
(11:12):
it a hood romantic comedy. And the reason why I
say hood is because romance in the hood sometimes it's
not that romantic.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
It's actually it's actually more trauma bonding than anything more toxic.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Exact in the first so you're about to experience her trauma.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
In the first chapter. Mood the like the first couple
of graphs grab me, you say, well, Winter is saying
I'm addicted. I'm addicted to the struggle in the hustle,
moving and maneuvering fighting, fury, action and reaction, pressure, intension,
And I was like, wow, you don't like as a
person growing up like a girl from around you don't
realize how much you're addicted to things that are really
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traumatizing to you, and you think you need it, kind
of like to live and survive until you get out
of it, until you go through an experience like what
she went through in the last book. Speaking from that perspective, like,
you know, as a person who you know you're guiding
wins her, what do you want us girls to take
away from this book? Because when I read that, I'm like, oh,
this is deeper than like a lot of people even
probably know on the surface watching her journey through this
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new book.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
All right. In the beginning of my novels always there's
a poem, yes the wor and this one, you know,
is what to remember and what to forget? So what
as an author, what I'm showing is that sometimes we
don't focus on which things we should remember and which
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things we should forget. And even artists in the entertainment
industry have the same problem. A lot of times. If
you're coming from hard times and then you get a
certain amount of money that you never thought you would
earn like you're making seven figures. You never thought you
would have that in the palm of your hand. And
(13:01):
you're young, so you want to bring everybody with you.
But if you bring the streets with you into your business,
things get complicated. And I think that we can all agree,
Like I'm constantly seeing cases on being aired on platforms
(13:23):
and on television about this rap star, that rap star,
this celebrity or that celebrity, and it was the person's
inability to transition from one level to another level, not
knowing what to remember, what to forget, what to hold
(13:45):
on to, and what to regret. Sometimes we glorify things
that are not good for us because we're just used
to it, right, And so if you hold on to
it because you're used to it, it's going to ruin
the gifts that you received. So I think life is
(14:06):
a balancing act. And I think that all of us
need guidance, and all of us need faith. And I
think if you don't have a faith, you know, whether
you're Christian or Jewish or Muslim or whatever your belief
system is, if you don't have a faith, you don't
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have guidance, and you don't have limits to what you
will and will not do. And furthermore, you don't know
who is all powerful, so you'll start doing things for
people because you think that those people are in control,
but really only one is in control.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
No, it's crazy. You look at sports and you look
at all these other organizations and they have people that
actually come in to help these young men or young
women transition from one stage of their life to another
stage of their life. But when you look at the
entertainment industry, they don't have that, you know, because a
lot of these everybody, most people that come up from
the entertainment industry are from the street. So like you said,
(15:08):
they think what's popular or what they should be doing.
It's something that they see and there is nobody teaching
them this is not the way. There is no guidance.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
But you know, envy there was. There were people who
were doing that. But if it's if it's any interest
of people who are financing these creative arts for their
artists to stay in a state of ignorance, then they block.
(15:38):
It's the same like you block somebody on your phone.
You block the good people, you block the leadership, you
block the intellectuals, you block the people who are just
good people who want to give guidance so that we
can prosper from it.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, and we see it so many different times. You know,
I just wanted to get your thought because I mean,
you're so profound in your thoughts and you actually do
the homework. What is your thoughts on what's going on
now with politics, with with Kamala Harris and Donald Trump.
What's your thoughts on that? Because you've never been a
person to bite your tongue, You're gonna say what it
is and how you feel and what you what you're thinking.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
It feels like, to add to Envy's point, it does
feel like, especially around Israel, in Palestine, it does feel
like there's a lot of sister Soldier moments happening.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yes, right, sister Soljier moments.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
You know, you know the politicians call these things sister
Soldier moments, And feels like a lot of that is happening.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Well, you know, politics. Why I grew weary of politics
a number of years ago because I don't think that
the people are given real choices. I think you're always
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you're always just doing the minimum, you know, like, okay,
all right, it's this one or that one, but you
don't feel good about any of it, you know. And
then there's also the fact of being organized is a
really big deal because if a community is not organized,
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they don't even understand the political structure. It won't even
matter what you vote for or who you vote for,
if you don't have an agenda, if you don't have
your agenda backed up by finance, if you don't have
an understanding of how the system works. And the system
(17:46):
is quite intricate. So I don't know. I think for
maybe forty years, I was always that voice that was saying,
was questioning and proposing and suggesting and working and communicating
(18:07):
and so on and so forth. It just got to
the point where it seemed like it wasn't that people
didn't know what to do, they just weren't interested in
doing it.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Do you think, well, I don't want to say, do
you what do you think of the Vice president Kamala Harris?
What do you think of this moment that we're here
in America? Do you think it's revolutionary? Do you think
it's historic? Do you think that it's something that could
change things?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Boy?
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Well, I mean when Obama was running, you know, everyone
was excited and probably in tears. And you know, actually
I was living in Japan when Obama was elected and
all watched, you know, all the different news agencies and everything,
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and people who really were so overwhelmed with happiness and tears,
and they seem to think that the world was going
to change in some really huge way. And you know,
I think that President Obama was a nice guy, but
I don't think that the world changed in any huge way.
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I think it's a matter of it's a matter of
knowing and studying and learning and planning. So it's not
a matter of is it going to be this man
or this woman. It's not a matter of that because
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at the end of the day, it's just the face.
But you have to know how to work the system,
and you have to be organized to impact the system.
And I think in the US we have a co
of personality. You know, we just pick who we like
or who looks the best, or these different things. But
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it really has nothing to do with politics and power.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
That's real.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Why have it the Coldest went to ever been turned
into some type of series, our.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Movie yet That's why I had that same question.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Yes, I know, Jada, I think if I'm not mistaken.
Didn't Jada Pinket Smith option it back in the day
or something like that.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
She optioned it a long, long time ago. Let me
just tell you simply, like, just give you the truth.
A Hollywood contract can be maybe fifty pages long and
not just be one of them. And there's so many
(20:46):
strict change things in these contracts, and it makes me
understand how other people kind of got caught in a
bad situation. But I read the contracts line for line,
and I have my red pen, and I write notes
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on the side, and I negotiate because a contract is
a mutual agreement between two or more parties, and so
I feel like I have a voice in the contract,
whereas movie houses seem to think they write down whatever
(21:33):
they want to write in this contract and you just
sign on the dotted line and don't ask any questions.
So I think my intelligence has worked against me in
terms of the Hollywood system. But at the same time,
I wouldn't want to just sign some weird agreement and
(21:55):
end up regretting it, so I don't. So we were
at a major student yo, and uh, you know, I
just found the experience not to be what it should be.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
If somebody came to you with the right situation that
you were comfortable with and you could trust, would you
do it or are you just completely against it because
of like the politics that go bhind you know, closed
door sometimes with the Hollywood studios.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
No, I'm not against it. The right deal, yes, the
right deal. Let me let me give you a better
example so you can see what I'm saying. So I
said to you, I have seven novels. So say I say, okay,
I'm interested in making The Coldest Winterever into a film,
and the Hollywood studio says great, And then they come
(22:42):
back with the contract. And then the contract says, uh
that they are accessing the Coldest Winter Ever, a Deeper
Love Inside, and some other book that I wrote. And
I say, no, no, no, no, that's not what I'm selling.
I'm only doing a one a one deal with The
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Coldest Winterever, the film version. And they say, yeah, okay,
So what we're gonna do is we're gonna freeze all
of your other works. So you will agree that during
this whole process you won't sell or discuss with any
other company or business person converting this book into a
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film and we're gonna freeze it for five years before
and after the film is made. Just strange situations. There
are even some contracts that want you to not write
anything else until this is produced. So I'm not interested
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in legal shackles.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
You know.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
It's like if I had ten houses and I'm selling
one of them and you tell me, okay, i'll buy
this one, but you're not allowed to sell the other nine. What.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, but they're my house, that's right, So.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
What are you talking about? Okay, well you can sell
it in ten years. Come on, man, what are you
discussing here? So I think that the contracts are also
set up in a way that they're using a very
you know, legalistic language of course, a very high language,
and so they expect you to not understand. But I
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know what inperpetuity means. It means forever, all right, you know,
so you're agreeing to something forever when you look at
these contracts. If you have any kind of independence in
your thinking or intelligence in your thinking, you're not going
to sign them. And so people think, oh, we'll just
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let her sit over there and wait. She'll get tired
of waiting, and then she'll come and be more obedient.
But that's not me the case.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
That's right, because you live a great life.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
In a moment of the law. I do you know.
I try to be a good person. I make my prayers,
you know, every day throughout the day, and the law
takes very good care of me, the law, so I
have no complaints. I'm not in a desperate state, and
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that makes me really comfortable.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Well, you know, my daughter just turned sixteen, so I'm
gifting her of the whole the whole book series, the
Coldest Oneever, Life after Death and now I Love After Midnight.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
I think you know she's ready to read those now.
I think I believe she is.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I hope, I hope you give her the Midnight books
also because she needs to know how to evaluate the
guys that you know she will come across in I.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Don't want to think about that.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Y'all might got talked through those, like she needs to
read and then y'all sit down and talk because the
Midnight series it changed my yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Wow, yeah, But he needs to know. She needs to
know what a man is and what a man isn't,
and really what a woman is and what a woman isn't.
Because the Midnight Books don't only address manhood, they also
address womanhood, you know, And that main character is very influential,
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and that Midnight series I think should be required reading
instead of some of the silly stuff that you get
in high school.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Well, make sure you pick it up if you're out
and about. Pick up Love after Midnight. And Sister Soldier
actually did her own audio this time, so you could
pick up the audible as well. And we appreciate you
and be safe out there. We love you, Sister Soldier.
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, wake that.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club.
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The Breakfast Club Morning, Everybody's dej Envy, Charlamagne to God,
Jess hilarious. We are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Now.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Jess is on maternity leave, so we have Lauren LaRosa
filling in and we have a special guest on the
line right now, she's actually out in Dubai. Ladies and gentlemen,
we have Sister Soldier. Welcome peace and how are you feeling?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I feel good?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
You feel good.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Today's pub day, So I'm excited and I hope that,
you know, people will get a chance to read my book,
and people who enjoy the series will like this new edition.
Oh they will.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Now we ask for you to be in person, but
they say, Sister Soldier is in Dubai.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
So have you moved to Dubai?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
What is in Dubai? Why are you in Dubai? Why
did a girl from the Bronx decide she wanted to
go to Dubai to start writing?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Well, I needed some peace in my life. You know.
Writing takes a highlight level of concentration, and so if
I want to concentrate, I need things to quiet down
and be a little steady. And so I had come
here before, maybe around twenty thirteen, and I said, this
(01:16):
would probably be a good place to have that kind
of peace of mind. So much was going on in
the country, as it still is going on, and so
now at least I can concentrate and focus and feel
safe and healthy, and I can watch what's going on
(01:37):
at home from Afar.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You know, peace, How are you? I just walked back.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
I'm blessed black and Holly favor. But I don't blame
you for getting out of here.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, no, I really At the time that I left,
I you know, I was really thinking about it quite clearly,
like could I, you know, move from where I'm rooted.
Can I leave all of my cards and house and
everything and go somewhere else and you know, I don't know,
maybe end up in a little rent a car or something.
(02:11):
But I was like, yep, I can do that, and
I did.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Do you feel a lot of the stuff that you
have talked about and discussed throughout your whole life just
seems like when you go back and look at some
of the things you've talked about, if you've spoken about
the themes, seems like things never change. It's like we're
still having those same conversations, whether it's politics, whether it's
racism in the country, and how do you feel about that.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I think things do change, and I think it's gotten worse.
Actually agree. When I look, you know, at the news,
when I take a break, you know, from my work,
I'm always shocked, like every time, you know, I'm always
(02:56):
shocked at what's going on at home. And the funny
thing as well, it's not really funny, I guess it's ironic.
It's like when I'm working or when I'm with my
family over here, everything is peaceful, and then about six
pm is here is the open of business in America,
And as soon as I hear from my family at home,
(03:18):
I'm like, oh, no, you don't what's next, you know.
Oh that's terrible, that's sad, you know. And I try
to keep my you know, positive outlook, but I just
think that things are not going so well at home.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
What do you think makes Dubai so peaceful?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Order Dubai Uae is an Islamic country, and so it
doesn't have as much of the contradiction or the hypocrisy
that we have at home. I think a lot of
people at home get confused because at home we have
the separation of church and state. That's the way our
(04:08):
constitution is set up. That's how our system is set up.
And so morality and certain order and certain civility is
not part of the legal code, whereas here the Qur'an
(04:28):
itself is the law. So you have to follow the
guidance and you have to respect the limits. At home.
I think our our appreciation for freedom uh leads us
or misleads us some time to exceed the limits in
(04:51):
ways that is not healthy.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
You know what We're going to talk about a lot
after midnight in one second. But you and the UAE.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Every black woman that I've met that in the UA,
because I love Abu Dhabi, they tell me that they
feel like a white man in America feels in the UAE.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
That's how empowered they feel there. Well.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
UAE is considered the safest country in the world. You
can walk and not feel any kind of anxiety, whether
it's daytime or whether it's nighttime. The police are actually friendly,
(05:34):
you know, which is mind blowing if you come from
New York City, right and you know, my husband and
I were walking outside one day for exercise doing some cardio,
and a cop car drove by and waved and my
husband was like, he's a Brooklyn cat. He was like,
are they waving at us? Are they trying to tell
(05:57):
us something? You know, what's up? And I said, no,
they just say and high. They're just saying ah, because
that's how it is out here, you know. Uh, it's
not the police versus the people. It's not. You don't
feel like your blackness is a crime or even a
consideration really, you know. So it's a lot of stress removed,
(06:23):
especially if you have children, if you're a parent. If
you are a parent and you worry at home, you
worry all the time. Every time your son walks out
the door, every time your daughter, you know, is outside
of your your eyesight. And here because everybody knows what
the rules are and they have to respect the limits
(06:46):
because the limits are the law.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
You're here to talk about love After Midnight, which is
the latest installment of the Winter Santiago series. For those
who aren't familiar with the series, how would you describe
what the series is about?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Well, I don't know anybody who's not familiar with the
The Coldest Winterever has survived through generations. It's a book
that every new set of thirteen year old girls and
boys read. It's a book that is so popular in
(07:22):
the prison system, is so popular in all women's gatherings
and even sororities and so on and so forth. So
people who follow this series know the Winter series is
like the coldest winter ever, and then Life After Death
and then Love After Midnight, which is in stores now today.
(07:46):
I also this is the This is my seventh novel,
but this is the first time I ever read the
audio book. So if you buy the book from Audible
or wherever, you're gonna hear my narration of one of
my books, which was a big deal for me because
(08:06):
I never narrated the books before.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
How was what it changed since Life After Death?
Speaker 3 (08:12):
How has Winter changed? Yeah? I think Winter is so
much like us. In other words, you know how something
spiritual can happen to you, something really big, or you
almost met your demise or death, you had a car
(08:36):
accident and it spun out of control and you were
hanging over the bridge, or in the case of one
of my sisters, you know, she had a car accident
where a tree fell on her car. And I think
what happens is it's a really big deal when it's happening,
and it's a really big deal when you feel the loss,
(09:00):
you feel the pain, and you feel the suffering in
life after death. I think so many shocking, unknown things
happened to went to Santiago, and when she came out
of that experience, really by the grace of God, she
was very clear about it. But most like most of us,
(09:21):
we forget. You know, one day you were praying and
thanking God, and then two weeks later you're like born
with the show. So I think she has changed in
some ways. She knows that there is a God, and
I don't think before her death experience she knew that.
(09:47):
She is all about her business now and now her
hustle is legal, it is not illegal, and that's a
big deal. Her father, Santiago, is her manager. Now she
has her own reality show. She has a lot of
leverage though, because she has a brother in law who
is in the film industry, is quite popular and quite powerful.
(10:10):
So how she juggles is what we'll see when to
go through in Love After Midnight, and how she pursues
the thing she wants in her life, like she wants
she wants a man, but she's looking for a man
that feels like the men of the nineties, and she's
(10:30):
is no longer the nineties now it's the twenty first century.
And she don't like these new dudes. So she's disappointed
because she doesn't have somebody that you know, she really feels,
you know, deeply connected to, and so she's pursuing that.
But she's very picky and she'll she'll you know, choose
(10:52):
somebody up and spit them out in an instance. So
it's good for her business wise, financially, it's good for
her family wise. Uh, it's it's a struggle for her
because she has a certain kind of personality. But I
think that people will love Love after Midnight. I call
(11:12):
it a hood romantic comedy. And the reason why I
say hood is because romance in the hood sometimes it's
not that romantic.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
It's actually it's actually more trauma bonding than anything more toxic.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Exact in the first so you're about to experience her trauma.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
In the first chapter. Mood the like the first couple
of graphs grab me, you say, well, Winter is saying
I'm addicted. I'm addicted to the struggle in the hustle,
moving and maneuvering fighting, fury, action and reaction, pressure, intension,
And I was like, wow, you don't like as a
person growing up like a girl from around you don't
realize how much you're addicted to things that are really
(11:52):
traumatizing to you, and you think you need it, kind
of like to live and survive until you get out
of it, until you go through an experience like what
she went through in the last book. Speaking from that perspective, like,
you know, as a person who you know you're guiding
wins her, what do you want us girls to take
away from this book? Because when I read that, I'm like, oh,
this is deeper than like a lot of people even
probably know on the surface watching her journey through this
(12:13):
new book.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
All right. In the beginning of my novels always there's
a poem, yes the wor and this one, you know,
is what to remember and what to forget? So what
as an author, what I'm showing is that sometimes we
don't focus on which things we should remember and which
(12:38):
things we should forget. And even artists in the entertainment
industry have the same problem. A lot of times. If
you're coming from hard times and then you get a
certain amount of money that you never thought you would
earn like you're making seven figures. You never thought you
would have that in the palm of your hand. And
(13:01):
you're young, so you want to bring everybody with you.
But if you bring the streets with you into your business,
things get complicated. And I think that we can all agree,
Like I'm constantly seeing cases on being aired on platforms
(13:23):
and on television about this rap star, that rap star,
this celebrity or that celebrity, and it was the person's
inability to transition from one level to another level, not
knowing what to remember, what to forget, what to hold
(13:45):
on to, and what to regret. Sometimes we glorify things
that are not good for us because we're just used
to it, right, And so if you hold on to
it because you're used to it, it's going to ruin
the gifts that you received. So I think life is
(14:06):
a balancing act. And I think that all of us
need guidance, and all of us need faith. And I
think if you don't have a faith, you know, whether
you're Christian or Jewish or Muslim or whatever your belief
system is, if you don't have a faith, you don't
(14:26):
have guidance, and you don't have limits to what you
will and will not do. And furthermore, you don't know
who is all powerful, so you'll start doing things for
people because you think that those people are in control,
but really only one is in control.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
No, it's crazy. You look at sports and you look
at all these other organizations and they have people that
actually come in to help these young men or young
women transition from one stage of their life to another
stage of their life. But when you look at the
entertainment industry, they don't have that, you know, because a
lot of these everybody, most people that come up from
the entertainment industry are from the street. So like you said,
(15:08):
they think what's popular or what they should be doing.
It's something that they see and there is nobody teaching
them this is not the way. There is no guidance.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
But you know, envy there was. There were people who
were doing that. But if it's if it's any interest
of people who are financing these creative arts for their
artists to stay in a state of ignorance, then they block.
(15:38):
It's the same like you block somebody on your phone.
You block the good people, you block the leadership, you
block the intellectuals, you block the people who are just
good people who want to give guidance so that we
can prosper from it.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, and we see it so many different times. You know,
I just wanted to get your thought because I mean,
you're so profound in your thoughts and you actually do
the homework. What is your thoughts on what's going on
now with politics, with with Kamala Harris and Donald Trump.
What's your thoughts on that? Because you've never been a
person to bite your tongue, You're gonna say what it
is and how you feel and what you what you're thinking.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
It feels like, to add to Envy's point, it does
feel like, especially around Israel, in Palestine, it does feel
like there's a lot of sister Soldier moments happening.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yes, right, sister Soljier moments.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
You know, you know the politicians call these things sister
Soldier moments, And feels like a lot of that is happening.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Well, you know, politics. Why I grew weary of politics
a number of years ago because I don't think that
the people are given real choices. I think you're always
(17:00):
you're always just doing the minimum, you know, like, okay,
all right, it's this one or that one, but you
don't feel good about any of it, you know. And
then there's also the fact of being organized is a
really big deal because if a community is not organized,
(17:23):
they don't even understand the political structure. It won't even
matter what you vote for or who you vote for,
if you don't have an agenda, if you don't have
your agenda backed up by finance, if you don't have
an understanding of how the system works. And the system
(17:46):
is quite intricate. So I don't know. I think for
maybe forty years, I was always that voice that was saying,
was questioning and proposing and suggesting and working and communicating
(18:07):
and so on and so forth. It just got to
the point where it seemed like it wasn't that people
didn't know what to do, they just weren't interested in
doing it.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Do you think, well, I don't want to say, do
you what do you think of the Vice president Kamala Harris?
What do you think of this moment that we're here
in America? Do you think it's revolutionary? Do you think
it's historic? Do you think that it's something that could
change things?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Boy?
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Well, I mean when Obama was running, you know, everyone
was excited and probably in tears. And you know, actually
I was living in Japan when Obama was elected and
all watched, you know, all the different news agencies and everything,
(19:03):
and people who really were so overwhelmed with happiness and tears,
and they seem to think that the world was going
to change in some really huge way. And you know,
I think that President Obama was a nice guy, but
I don't think that the world changed in any huge way.
(19:25):
I think it's a matter of it's a matter of
knowing and studying and learning and planning. So it's not
a matter of is it going to be this man
or this woman. It's not a matter of that because
(19:45):
at the end of the day, it's just the face.
But you have to know how to work the system,
and you have to be organized to impact the system.
And I think in the US we have a co
of personality. You know, we just pick who we like
or who looks the best, or these different things. But
(20:07):
it really has nothing to do with politics and power.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
That's real.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Why have it the Coldest went to ever been turned
into some type of series, our.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Movie yet That's why I had that same question.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Yes, I know, Jada, I think if I'm not mistaken.
Didn't Jada Pinket Smith option it back in the day
or something like that.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
She optioned it a long, long time ago. Let me
just tell you simply, like, just give you the truth.
A Hollywood contract can be maybe fifty pages long and
not just be one of them. And there's so many
(20:46):
strict change things in these contracts, and it makes me
understand how other people kind of got caught in a
bad situation. But I read the contracts line for line,
and I have my red pen, and I write notes
(21:11):
on the side, and I negotiate because a contract is
a mutual agreement between two or more parties, and so
I feel like I have a voice in the contract,
whereas movie houses seem to think they write down whatever
(21:33):
they want to write in this contract and you just
sign on the dotted line and don't ask any questions.
So I think my intelligence has worked against me in
terms of the Hollywood system. But at the same time,
I wouldn't want to just sign some weird agreement and
(21:55):
end up regretting it, so I don't. So we were
at a major student yo, and uh, you know, I
just found the experience not to be what it should be.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
If somebody came to you with the right situation that
you were comfortable with and you could trust, would you
do it or are you just completely against it because
of like the politics that go bhind you know, closed
door sometimes with the Hollywood studios.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
No, I'm not against it. The right deal, yes, the
right deal. Let me let me give you a better
example so you can see what I'm saying. So I
said to you, I have seven novels. So say I say, okay,
I'm interested in making The Coldest Winterever into a film,
and the Hollywood studio says great, And then they come
(22:42):
back with the contract. And then the contract says, uh
that they are accessing the Coldest Winter Ever, a Deeper
Love Inside, and some other book that I wrote. And
I say, no, no, no, no, that's not what I'm selling.
I'm only doing a one a one deal with The
(23:02):
Coldest Winterever, the film version. And they say, yeah, okay,
So what we're gonna do is we're gonna freeze all
of your other works. So you will agree that during
this whole process you won't sell or discuss with any
other company or business person converting this book into a
(23:26):
film and we're gonna freeze it for five years before
and after the film is made. Just strange situations. There
are even some contracts that want you to not write
anything else until this is produced. So I'm not interested
(23:48):
in legal shackles.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
You know.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
It's like if I had ten houses and I'm selling
one of them and you tell me, okay, i'll buy
this one, but you're not allowed to sell the other nine. What.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, but they're my house, that's right, So.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
What are you talking about? Okay, well you can sell
it in ten years. Come on, man, what are you
discussing here? So I think that the contracts are also
set up in a way that they're using a very
you know, legalistic language of course, a very high language,
and so they expect you to not understand. But I
(24:30):
know what inperpetuity means. It means forever, all right, you know,
so you're agreeing to something forever when you look at
these contracts. If you have any kind of independence in
your thinking or intelligence in your thinking, you're not going
to sign them. And so people think, oh, we'll just
(24:52):
let her sit over there and wait. She'll get tired
of waiting, and then she'll come and be more obedient.
But that's not me the case.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
That's right, because you live a great life.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
In a moment of the law. I do you know.
I try to be a good person. I make my prayers,
you know, every day throughout the day, and the law
takes very good care of me, the law, so I
have no complaints. I'm not in a desperate state, and
(25:24):
that makes me really comfortable.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Well, you know, my daughter just turned sixteen, so I'm
gifting her of the whole the whole book series, the
Coldest Oneever, Life after Death and now I Love After Midnight.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
I think you know she's ready to read those now.
I think I believe she is.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I hope, I hope you give her the Midnight books
also because she needs to know how to evaluate the
guys that you know she will come across in I.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Don't want to think about that.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Y'all might got talked through those, like she needs to
read and then y'all sit down and talk because the
Midnight series it changed my yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Wow, yeah, But he needs to know. She needs to
know what a man is and what a man isn't,
and really what a woman is and what a woman isn't.
Because the Midnight Books don't only address manhood, they also
address womanhood, you know, And that main character is very influential,
(26:21):
and that Midnight series I think should be required reading
instead of some of the silly stuff that you get
in high school.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Well, make sure you pick it up if you're out
and about. Pick up Love after Midnight. And Sister Soldier
actually did her own audio this time, so you could
pick up the audible as well. And we appreciate you
and be safe out there. We love you, Sister Soldier.
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, wake that.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
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