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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Everybody is the j n V.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Jesse Lai Charlam and the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
We got a special guest in the building. That's right,
the good brother T. K.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Kirklees me to.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
The mother Fky.
Speaker 5 (00:16):
Summer visit from TK Kirkley means something big must be happening,
and it is. Yes, you just so not to catch
me if you can. World Tour, Yes, be alive Nation.
Speaker 6 (00:25):
Yes we started in April, but you know I always
try to get to you when I give you a kick.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Stuff off.
Speaker 6 (00:29):
But then with the kids and other stuff, I had
to travel, so everything worked out well. So I'm making
a pit stop this weekend for the Stress Factory because
it's my home. It's the only date that Viddy had
and I had to come do Jersey. So that's why
I'm here, you know, to promote that and to talk
about the the rest of the tour, which I'm gonna
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be in Houston next week at the House of Blues,
and the nineteenth I'm gonna be at Elmo's in Austin, Texas.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
So I'm I'm excited. I'm excited.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Sorry, man, you just turned sixty three this year too.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, yeah, what keeps you motivated?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Man? What keeps you going?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I just think it's in my DNA, you know.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
And at one time, I think we talked about I
was going to retire, and then when you start realizing,
when you're home for a couple of days or week,
you go, wow, this is I don't know, you know,
You're like, you know what, I think I need to
stay busy because I think that's the old mindset. People
think they need to stay retired just to chill. But
I think to stay youthful and active and live a
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long time, you actually have to be active and fit
in your schedule, working out and taking care of yourself
all so I stay consistent with that.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I wanted to ask you about, you know, comedians stealing jokes, right,
And it's something that we always talk about all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
You've come up here so many.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Times, and you probably would have first one to talk
about signs of getting old and make sure you date
somebody that knows the signs of getting old, right, right?
Hearing that joke more and more, Yes, yes, does that
upset you when you when you hear your jokes.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
Here's the thing when I said that joke. Someone says,
Simbad did that joke years ago. What people don't know
about me? And I think Charlamagne can said because he's
worked with me a lot of times. I never watch
another comic. I always stay out the room. So what
happens as you get older in life and business you
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talk about there's no comic that's not going to talk
about something that another comic has not talked about already.
It's impossible, right, it's going to be the same topic
and may not. Now, if you do somebody's material joke
for joke for joke, you're stealing the joke. But if
you dealing with topic like we all we're comedians. Do
you want to talk about marriage? You want to talk
about marriage. I want to talk about marriage, right. I
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can't stop you from there there because that's your story.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
One thing that I do about.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
My stand up show is I read a lot and
when I go and get on the mic, whatever happens happens.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I don't have a set structure show because.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
When I got my degree, it was we were taught
that when you give a speech, you never get the
same speech for the same audience because every audience is different,
So you truly have to be prepared for what's going
to happen. So when someone to steals something in mine,
I'm not that petty. I got so much material, Like
I'll do two three hours on you in a minute.
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But when I have my own stand up show and
I put comics on the show, I run a tight ship.
I talk about what you cannot talk about because most
comics don't have comedy IQ and comede i Q is
like a Lebron James or Michael Jordan. They know a
lot about the other players on the teams, right. Well,
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comedians don't do that because comedians will be on the
same show and want to go right behind each other.
And let's say something happened to Will Smith. Someone doesn't
talk to him as a team and say, yo, you
talk about this, but don't talk about that because the headliner,
they all go on, talk about Will Smith, they all
go on, talk about sex, they all go on. So
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the person in the audience.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
It's like, I'm tired of this.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
He willing to listen, Like are the comics will No,
comics don't want to listen. What I what I found
out when I started structuring my show, there was I
was getting back last. Don't want nobody to shine. But
y'all know me for a long time. I worked hard
to get my name on the marquee, and I run
my show the way I want my show ran, regardless
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of if a person gets upset or not, because I
know the quality and how I want the show to run,
and I want comics to you do this right, material,
you do this, you do that, and then bam I
come on and then it's a complete show.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
And you a tough act to follow regardless.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
DK absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't
play You already know. I bring the heat. Yeah, I
bring the heat. Whether it's a concert or whatever, I
bring the heat. And I saw you that that's interested.
That to be like a full circle moment.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
You hosted the thirtieth anniversary of the Cash Money Millionaires.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
Yes, and shout out to Baby and Slim. We've been
working on some other things and the Baby said, T
T you should do the the Essence Fest and I
turned him down. To be honest with you, Yeah, I
think when you get a certain ages, it's some things
you don't want to do.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
No more.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Ence is perfect.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
No, No, I didn't know. I haven't been to the
Essence in twenty something years.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Oh yeah, because Essence is perfect. It's a little trying
to ske a little low old. Yeah, but it's twenty five.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
What I'm saying is how old were you guys twenty
years ago? Yeh see that's when last time I was
at the Essence. So it was a different vibe then, right, Yeah,
it was a different vibe. So I was like, ah,
so since we was working on some other star, it
came back up again and I said, yo, baby, let's
you know, let's do the the Essence fast. So we
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did the Essence fast, and he got me the host
the YouTube celebration because you know, Leo Cohen and YouTube
gave them an award as well down YouTube, and I hosted.
I got to bring out the tucks and all that
kind of stuff and do something cause I don't get
a chance to wear suits that much. So that was
a good feeling. So we were doing a lot of
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things together and so shout out the baby and no, crew,
what are you doing with them?
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Because I've been hearing that you might have a Netflix
special coming. Yeah, but I'm here and you're doing something
with Birdman's with the Birdman like a special.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
Yeah, what we're going to do is everything should be
finalized soon, but we're going to do it October eighteenth
at the Filmore in New Orleans and it's going to
be Cash Money Presents t K Kirkland.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
So we getting ready to do something really really huge,
and then we got some other big things that we're doing.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
So it's not even sent done.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
But you went on tour with them back in the day, right, I.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
Started with Cash Money And what happened was a man
shout out to Ron Bird because I was touring with
Jay z Herd Like Life tour and when we got
down to New Orleans, nelling them was all on the show,
but they didn't have nobody to host it. So I'm
sitting in the wrners, you know, my opportunist. So I said,
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ron y'all, y'all need somebody to go on?
Speaker 4 (07:13):
He said, you want to go up?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Ron Bird was a tour manager.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, you know exactly who Ron Bird is.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I was on that tour. You was on that tour, Yeah, yeah,
Nelly bird Man fabulous.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
I was yes, ye, yeah, right, And I went on
and baby saw me and you know, he said, yo,
they was about to do Ball of Blocking And he said, Yo,
what up water? He said, listen, Yo, you're the man.
He said, ain't you that brother from New Jersey Drive?
Because I was in New Jersey Drive and I said yeah.
He says, well, we're about to do this movie called
Ball of Block. I want you to play a cop
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and baller block. And you know, they just came into
a lot of money. So I was flying down there
all the time. And when we got ready to do
the set, I was in my dressing room and this
one baby didn't really respect money because he was carrying
money around like Floyd Mayweather. So he came in with
these two big bags of money, said Yo, how much
I owe you? I said, give me the whole damn bag.
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So he just threw me a few thousands. Think it
was like ten fifteen thousand to do the part and
the rest of Sister because we was all me ron
birr at all on. They went shopping that day. I'll
never get it, and he bought like six bit leys
at one time.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Baby.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Why you say he don't respect money because he was
just throwing You know, I'm old school, you know, I
believe everything you make you keep like I mean, when
the word stunner really fits him.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Because he stunts yea in a positive way.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
How would you.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Tell these kids nowadays, and just people in general, how
would you tell them to respect money?
Speaker 6 (08:40):
That's a good question, Charlamagne. What kids to me don't
think about it as their future, right. I think you
get set up from the government because everybody gets their
credit card, at least they used back when you're eighteen
nineteen years old, they send you this credit card to
get have twenty five hundred dollars on it, and kids,
most kids in the hood don't never get that kind
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of money at one time, so they go shopping, never
pay the credit card bill.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Now, when you get older, you really get your life.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
They gave them to get your credit card, and you
realize now that twenty five hundred it's thirty thousand, five
hundred and eighteen cent. It was a setup from the beginning.
So what we want to tell kids is think about
your future. Because when you get my age, and not
even my age, you understand it better. But you can
really start it in your twenties and thirties, understand points
and discounts. Now, all of y'all travel a lot, most
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of y'all in here, travel for free on some place
cause you got miles and points. So when you run
into a situation, you don't spend your money. You use
your points to book them two round trips, two round trips,
tickets to England or Saint Lucia's or Jamaica.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Or Hawaii or Africa. Right, you do that.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
So what we want the kids to understand is get
your nice credit card, start building up. Start going to
different hotels and you might start a low get to
marry a bomb boy and all that, and build up
points over the years, and as you get older, you'll
start having discounts. You'll get free airline tickets and bring
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your girl when they upgrade you from a regular room
to the presidential suite at the Saint Regis's Goods. You
are an elite customer. And that's the stuff I think
that we had to teach people because one of my
things I put in my actors were like Rockefeller was
so amazing. He got most people thinking that most of
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the schools in Atlanta HBCU schools.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Rockefeller.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
Yeah, watch the game. A lot of people think that
Spellman is an HBCU school, is not watch I'm about
to tell you ready, Rock Spellman is Rockefeller's wife.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
They dropped the Rockefeller Spellman.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
I don't know if any of this is true, but.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Better google it right now. I know what I'm talking about.
Right while we on the air, I'm listening. Oh yeah,
while we're on the air. Spellman is Rockefeller's wife.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Let me see. Oh, Laura Spellman Rockefeller.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Laura Spellman Rockefeller was an American abolitionist, philanthropist, school teacher,
and prominent member of the Rockefeller Fellow family.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Her husband was Standard Oil co founder John D. Rockefeller.
Spelman College in Atlanta, Georgia, and the Lawrence Spellerman Rockefeller
Memorial with name for her. Okay, you learned something new
every day?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Isn't that something? Yell?
Speaker 2 (11:33):
That's crazy? So Spelman, the HBCU is named after a
white woman. That's wow. I never knew that.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
You see you what I'm saying? Ain't that insane?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
That's wild?
Speaker 4 (11:45):
What made you?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
How'd you?
Speaker 4 (11:46):
When did you?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
When did you hear that?
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Like?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Many years ago?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Because I read a lot and it blew my mind.
I read a lot too, but I ain't never read that. Yeah,
that's what I haven't read every book, right, isn't that amazing.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (11:58):
In eighteen eighty four, the school express your attitude for
Rockerfeller's generosity by changing the name.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Spelman College was named as the Laura Spelman due to
her significant financial contribution to the institution.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Throughout her life.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Laura Spelman was dedicated to social and educational causes, particularly
for women in African Americans. Yes, so it's the HBCU.
She just donated a lot of money to it. Wow,
they said, yeah, I knew this, though the rock Feller
family continued to donate ten percent of their income to charity,
including substantial donations to Spelman Founded to educate Black women.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Wow, and wow other colleges around there. It's just not Spellman.
So it's just amazing things that happened in eighteen hundreds.
How the world can manipulate or change, because there's just
some things we just don't know. Just like I've read
the other day and saw the first Bible that came
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out in eighteen hundreds, and how the when we got colonized,
how they changed all the black faces to white. Even
the last Supper was all black people, and it's just
just just totally just been manipulated. Now, one thing I
don't want to get into as og the things that
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I always talk about. You you don't talk about religion
and politics. That's the real So that's something you know.
I just wanted to mention that just a little and
move on, because you know.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Just to put it out there.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
There's more House too, Henry Lyneman Morehouse, who was a
Baptist minister from Stanford.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
New York. Yes he's a white gentleman as well. Yes
he's a white gentleman.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Why didn't name it after him?
Speaker 5 (13:31):
You're gonna have me researching this research, But at least
the world is about to see something that because I'm
quite sure if you don't know a lot of because
when I say it in my stand up, people are
blown away. I'm quite sure some people don't believe, Like
you almost didn't believe me until you google it. I
did not believe you right right right, But I'm saying
people was to feel the same way. But people don't
have enough time when they in the show to google it,
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so they go out. Maybe he's telling the truth, Maybe
he's not telling the truth. So it's crazy.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
Man.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
I saw you on Black TV. You said that a
phase on love stopped you from killing somebody from shooting somebody.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, shout out the phase on. I'm always
gonna show love the phase on. Back in the nineties,
I had some issues with some gentlemen down in the
comedy club. And I could tell the whole story.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
What happened.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Gon shoot a comedian.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
No no, no, no, the owner.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
He going to the top, the owner because it was
a hustling dude out of Detroit, and he was, you know,
he had influenced a lot of young men. You know,
everybody took the wrong side of that business. Instead of
running the comic club. They all thought they was gangsters.
And I went out earlier that day and wound up
meeting this girl, probably the night before, and we wound
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up having sex during the day. So I learned so
much to this point in life that I tried not
to have sex before show because I'm just tired, tired,
and me and this girl, you know, we threw down
dog by two, three o'clock.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I'm out and I got three ose that night and
I missed too, woke up panicing.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
You know.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
And one thing about me, I always like to smell girls.
I'm still taking my shower. I ain't going out until
I washed my ass. Right, So I get there and
they all are in the office, you know, thinking that
they're tough, talk about TK what happened. I'm trying to
tell and want to do. Spunch me in my face
for being late, for being late, that's my point.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
Now I had already caught the case here in New
York with the puppy situation back in the day.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Right, hold on, you need to for people that are
new here.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
Oh yeah, because everything that was the credit card frauds
that we had back in the nineties.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Right, And.
Speaker 6 (15:43):
And once you go to court, your hands are tied
because you're on probation. Now I was in a very
crazy situation. I had the puppet case here in ninety eight,
but a year before that, I had caught the case
in La So now New York was trying to convict
me as a predicate felon, right, and a predicate fella
in the state of New York is a mandatory four
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to six years. So I'm dealing with that. A lot
of people got to pass in my lifetime, is because
I had something else over my head. And once you
get in front of a DA or a prosecutor that
really want.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
To they wait, Yeah, they waiting for you to slip.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
You got to turn the other cheek when people are
putting you in.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
A bad situation. So you got to make good choices.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
How old were you when.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
This is forty something years old?
Speaker 6 (16:31):
And let me tell you something, when you get hit
in forty something, it hurt, especiallyh you ain't been hit
in a long time. Like it's a whole different type
of feeling when you get hit like that. And so
what I did was I went to the whip.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I just want to tell you, I just think it's wild.
Like he was forty years old knocking off his student.
I thought this was like a twenty year old thing,
like you know, you know, you little reckless he knock
off and get.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Late, But you forty years old come into the club late?
Speaker 6 (16:57):
Yeah, coming, But that's the saying. I had a little
situation and coming back up, was coming up, coming up
the blast, and Faison saw me. He snatched me up,
got me in the car and he's driving yelling at me.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
When he saw you with the gun.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Oh yeah, I was getting about to be on dog.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
He was walking out the street with the hen.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Back then, I was crazy, you know, I always kept something, and.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
So did he punched you and you left?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yeah, I left.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
The guys left, so I didn't yell at fight. I
just knew what I was gonna do. I went right outside.
They wouldn't come outside. They were scared, so they wounded
to call on the police and everything, and Faison snatched
me up and got me out, and he was yelling
at me because Faison also was one of the good
friends who wrote me a character letter or the puppy
situation to the judge here named Margaret, who put fear
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in my heart. This woman has so I could just
tell she was tired of me, because what happens when
you go to court, they do care about that chick
of the case, but what they care about is your past.
And her concern was how did he get away with
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all this other stuff, like y'all should have stopped him
years ago. And basically what she was saying is the
buck stops here. So she put feared me to the
point that I had literally took a deal with New York,
you know, to turn myself in in January, and I
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was going to do the four to six years. And
my business manager at the time, David Cleman, said they
have underestimated you. So I'm still traveling. I go to Harlem,
not go to Vegas if I lived in Vegas. I
go to Vegas. I'm gambling and I meet this guy
stand next to me, and he happens to be an
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attorney from Long Island and his name was Tony Capitella.
You know, now, I'm thinking I'm in the Sopranos capitaler.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
So he's talking to me and I'm.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
Telling about this case in New York. He said, well,
if you help me out do this, I'll help you.
So he got Tony Tepper and Frank Dodado was his partner.
I don't know if they're still alive, and we work
out a deal. I helped them out on the situation
and they come to court. But this is what I
tell them in Januar, because I met them like in November,
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and I said, listen, when you come to Manhattan, you
cannot come late, because this lady was tough. He comes
an hour late, but he's sharved, got this church Koto
is on and we took my deal off the table,
and the judge was so mad. I didn't even know
if that word, this word meant until she said it
she said, reprimand mister Kirkland.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Put him a handcuff, took me in.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Handcuffed dog and took me to Rikers for thirty days
because I changed. I took the deal off, so she
wasn't playing. Now while I'm up in Rikers Island fighting
the Puffy case, Puffy gets in trouble with Seine and
Jennifer Lopez at the club with the gun. So the
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same DA people come to me that's trying to put
me away. They want Puffy that bad, so they come
to Righters Allen and my Atturney is there. He said, hey,
they want to talk to you and want to know
what you talk to the grand jury that you saw
Puffy with the gun, and you know, me being clever,
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I said, y'all get me out of here. We can
talk about it.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
You know.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
So they took me from Rykers Allen back down to
the tombs. So you know, the CS know you, right,
so they see the detectives every day that what's going on.
So they taking me out and they got me in
the black car and we're going to the club where
the shooting happened. But they're not telling me exactly what happened.
They want me to Rea retream lines. So they're saying,
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you was here and Puffy was here. So I'm like,
I was here, Puffy was then, So you know, I'm
like going through it. But all this time, for the
three days they took me out, I'm getting blimpies, getting blimpies,
you know, because in jail the food is horrible. So
I'm like, I'm hungry, I'm thirsty. You know, I'm eating
my butt off, right, you know. They take me back
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up to Rikers Island. I think a week later. They
come to me and my attorney says, TK, they want
to know if you're gonna help them with the grand jury.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
And I said, oh, is not the club that night?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
No, they wanted to be to lie.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Oh okay, so they wanted you to put yourself in
the club.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
Yeah, they want to put myself in the club because
that's how bad they wanted Puffy.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Damn.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
Yeah, they want him, that bad dog. And I said, nah,
I'm good. They was mad as hell.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yo.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
I said, now I'm good. And I wind up getting
that four to six off the table. I got five
years probation and here I am a successful business stand up.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Did you ever have that conversation with Puffin told tell
Puff what they were trying to do.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
And now, no, we never, we never had that discussion.
We nevers.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
You might have stopp Puffs, Rain and Taram TK if
you'd have said something back then.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
No, but I wasn't there. It would have been alive.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
They put him in jail.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Oh yeah, yeah, always that type of situation.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
Yeah, yeah, I totally agree puffa. Yeah, but puff is
going through what he's supposed to go through, because that
makes sense. See, in life, you get so many chances
to do right. And because I've been there, you have
so many chances to do right. If you don't do right,
the universe has a way of humbling you.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
I agree with that.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
The universe will humble you dog more than you mentioned
because as you you know, we're all successful, right. You
get up certain days, got your chest out a little
bit more. Some days, you know, you treat some people
a little wrong. You know, sometimes you know just the
way it is right. But you gotta take that moment
to say to yourself, yo, I'm blessed. That's not that's
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not Let's not push this envelope because God can really
take this away from you. And if you keep treating
people bad, you keep doing violent things to women, you
keep being disrespectful. Now, don't get me wrong, you can
do this maybe one year, maybe a week, right, and
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then get your life together. But if you have a
track record for years and you didn't figure it out,
all the universe or make you pay. And when that
situation happened to me with puff, what hurt me? Well,
we didn't have social media then. But what hurt me
my mom found out Cause when I was doing crime before,
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we didn't have social media, no one knew about your business.
You could have shot somebody, right, but no one knows
what you did a week ago. So now this hit
the news. Now, the same people who love you and
respect you, when you get in trouble, they're embarrassed because
they whole career they talk about how amazing you are,
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how blah blah blah, and when you hurt them, it's
a blow. And my mother didn't go to church sholl
for like six months. You stop going to the same
place to get her hear about it. Yeah, she ain'tanna
hear about you. So I explained to hers that ma,
do not be embarrassed. As he raised me, right, I said,
you raised me right. You know, so someone says to you,
just say, you know, he's his own man. That was
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his choices, and all those experiences made me who I
am today, right sixty something years old. I'm humble, I'm
respectful of life, and to still doing what I'm doing
at my age is just in a total gift in shape,
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stay in the doctor's office, strong shoulders, and senior citizen.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
And you know you are considered the senior citizens. I
am a senior sixty five.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
He started, he started at fifty five. You get your
ARP card at fifty five, you know, you know. And
now I'm president of the Homeowners Association. You know I
got Medicare AMB plus my private insurance. And that's why
I tell the young men to start stepping their game up,
because even though I'm in my six I still can
pull your girl. And they said, TK, what do you mean.
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I said, because I could put your woman on my insurance.
I said, y'all out here dating women. She got a
tooth missing. You know, so y'all hear dating women you
only got You know, I'm not against surgery, that's what
you want to do. But if you can't get your
if you're gonna get your girl the butt or she
get a button and you can't give it an extra
few dollars to have the five to match the butt.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
It's not a relationship.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Insurance is important because a lot of these women page
balance be off, yes, be having that little yehishy older.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Yeah, but they can't even get to the doctor.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
They can't get to the doctor. Yeah. So that's the
where I come in. You know, I'll put them on
my insurance.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
You don't want to ask you about you brought up
puff and I just was thinking about, like a lot
of people from your era and people that you worked with.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
When when when I first met TK was when I was.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Working with Wendy will Yes, yes, and you was hosting
the It was she had a toy, it was.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
You.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
And what's the young man's name that got caught with
the trans Bobby Valentino, Boy Valentina.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
All right, But so when you when you see the situation,
when you see how things like Wendy turned out, like,
what do you think.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
Isn't that amazing the consequences of your choices. See, everything
is about the consequences of your choices. Some people only
think I try to teach people not to think about tomorrow.
I teach people to think about ten, fifteen, twenty years
from now. You have to think that far in advance.
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All great people think that far in advance. What I
mean by that, that's use football as analogy. Joe my
time to Tom Brady when they played games. What makes
them great championships? We're looking at the field. Most average
quarterbacks only look six yards with ever, but Joe Montanna,
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Tom Brady, the whole stadium is there feel and gives.
I've always tell people when I read this, saw this
interview Joe Montana in the eighties playing against It was
San Francisco playing against Dallas and they was losing. This
on the first time San Francisco beat Dallas NFC championship
up and in the other Joe Montana said, hey, guys,
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you see John Candy up in the stands, like he
was so comfortable that he wasn't caring about what was
going to happen. He had saw John Candy and John
Kyne was big back in the eighties. He had, so
John Kane in the stands and that's the conversation he
was happening having with his team and great athletes.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Great people see the future.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
They don't think about, Like, my life is planned for
the next twenty five years. I know exactly what I'm doing,
you know, And that's just something that keeps me motivated.
I know one I'm wearing on this particular day. That's
how far advanced I think. And that's what people have
to start think about. Some people don't think they're.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Going to die.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
Some people don't want to get insurance, some people don't
want to work out. And all the young people today
who are drinking alcohol all the time, you know what
they're not thinking about the consequences of the drinking, the
consequences of drinking years down the line.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
What is going to do to your body? And nobody cares.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
And I just want everybody to have a long life
because the thing that I understand about this world is,
and it's my understanding with the universe, is as long
as I live long enough on this planet, I'm going
to get everything that this universe has to give me.
I will get everything I want. I would get everything
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I want.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
I want to ask you about faith and Steve and
a too, they were going back and forth about Oja
being mentioned that the BT.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
Was yes, and I am I can explain that Faizon
has his opinion, Steven has a spiritual and what I
want to tell African American and Spanish whoever are really
rocking with black people. We know O J killed the bitch, right,
Let's just do this like it's facts. Yeah, but let's
watch where I'm going. You know, we know you killed
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the bit, but OJ's family. You know you're still buy
them obile for dinner. You know, but you hide the knives. Jesus,
you hide the knives.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
You know.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Faise on My Man phase on it said the exact
way to say Stephen A. Smith, my man, Shay Shane.
I think men of power. I moved differently, you know quite.
I think I'm older than those guys. When you're when
you're black, are really black. I'm not saying they're not black.
(29:53):
Ones is you have a duty to protect your people,
and when people come there and you start talking crazy,
you got to say, you know what, not on this show.
We're not going to We're not going to do that
on this show because we move a certain way on
this show. That's my definition of a man that you
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hold everybody that comes on your show accountable. When you're
talking about your culture and your community. It's very important
because that's something that we don't do. You know, even
though we might know that person is wrong, but in
front of the world, you got to protect your people,
and that's what we are. But in front we have to cook.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
That's what other races do. And when you think about
other races.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
See the reason why black men are considering no good
just baby daddy is because African American women talk to
the world about how bad we are. But you don't
know nothing about the Mexican man. You don't know nothing
about the Indian India. Right, they don't talk about there
and what I've learned their life, they're just as bad
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as we are.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
I see what you're saying, because to that point, we
do we that does happen to us.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
But black men do that. The black women historically bitches
whole right right right right, women don't listen.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Right right.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
We all talk about each other. And as a start, now,
when I'm on stage, I use the word B I,
T C H. I use profanity. The reason why I
do that because I want to get my porn across.
But if he knows when I'm on your shild, don't
use profanity. I don't curse in front of my children.
My profanity is strictly for entertainment purposes.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
I mean, even what you said about about Nicole Brown Simpson,
that was it was a joke.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
Yes, and let's make sure I'm glad you said that. Listen, people,
that was a joke. Do not come after me talking
about Oh my god. He insisitive. He tells yo, I
don't want that problem. And I hope they don't cut
that part out, you know what I'm saying, because you
know how the world is, right, they'll just use that
part and everything else we'll have a problem.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Yeah, that's why you always said it's hard to find
good friends.
Speaker 6 (32:04):
Man. Yeah, I think that's the tough thing to do.
You know, Charlamagne, we live in the world of habitual liars,
in fact, habitual liars, and we all want to do
good because of our experience in life. And you meet
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someone and you feel something for them, you want to
get that person a shot. They just caught you at
the right time, right, they caught you at the right time,
and you're like, I'm gonna get this person a shot,
but you don't see it coming. So there's two lessons
in this journey, right, Two lessons is once you find
out that person's a bitual liar, it teaches you to
keep your guard up for the rest of your life
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and you're only gonna get played once, not just when
that person teaches you to be that way with everybody,
because it shows you that everybody has the ability to
get you. Everybody female, dude, they got to bed. I'm
not talking to be robbery. Talk about your time, talk
about relationships and talking about finance. Business like people go
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into business with people because people don't take the time
to get to know person's character, find out where they live.
Every time somebody want to do business with me, I said.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Yo yo yo yo, Wait wait, wait, let's get to
know each other first. But when people hear something good,
they're like yo, exchange numbers, do X, Y and Z.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
People not reading the contracts, people exchanging information ba.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Now you can't find.
Speaker 6 (33:29):
Them because they disappeared and people have to take their
time to get the others going through DC and the
guy saw me and walking one way, he said, yo,
I got a business opportunity, said why.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
You want to do business with me?
Speaker 6 (33:42):
So I don't know you? I said, no disrespect, I said,
I don't know you so why would you want to
do business with me? Why would I want to do
business with you. I have never met your mother. I
don't know where you are. I don't And that's my point.
We have to stop that. We have to really get
into finding how a person moves and and life teaches
you little things about person. A person say the day
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successful you got to peep out their hands, what kind
of sneakers they got on? Are they a fast talker?
Because some people in they are fast talker and run
a lot of gang. You say, oh, okay, because I
teach people who roll with me.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
What do you mean when you said what they got on?
Speaker 5 (34:20):
Because when I was growing up, my daddy would point
to these white men in my town, monks corner, and
they would look regular as hell, and he'd be like,
that's the richest man in corner. I ain't wear none
of his money. But watch what I'm about to tell you.
You could wear something simple, but you know it's quality.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
M See when I'm in London and me and my
daughter we went to go see the Mona.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Lisa and.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
Scott just regular T shirt jeans. It was kind of big,
but you paid attention to detail. He had the cuff
turned up right on the sneaker, I mean on his jeans, and.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
It was findy.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
But when you know, you know, yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
You see what I'm saying. We as you get older,
you understand, Like see, in your twenties, thirties and forties,
you think people care. In your fifties and sixties, you
realize nobody gave a fuck. Nobody gave a good job, right,
no one gave a fuck. You know, I drove everything
from a Bentley to a mini van.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Nobody cares. Nobody cares for real, nobody cares. It feels
good for you.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Nobody gives it. Damn nobody going when you die, nobody gonna.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Be like he drove a bit right, Nobody cares.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
He wore f indy every day, Charlamagne, nobody cares, you know.
And when you think about us as well, we all
came up. We wore sneakers and shurees till the hole
came in the bottom. Remember the back in the day,
your sock be out, and all of us here together
probably got three thousand sneakers.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
Easy, and don't wear none of them.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Don't wear none of them.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
You are not lying. So as soon as it.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Gets a little dirty, don't get another pair.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
Isn't that something they climb because I wear the thing
cloth that all the time.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Smart, I don't nobody cares. As long as you got
a fresh underwear.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
I don't even know if he does that.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
You think that same teacher tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Okay, But long as this underwear game is, I just
like it.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
When I get comfortable, I'm comfortable.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Listen to me.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
I watch you guys all the time, like like my brothers,
and I see how comfortable you are.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
And the only thing I can say about that, long
as you wash it, you.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Don't watch it tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
As long as you watch a little wood light, and
everything don't lose color, you know, and you always smell good,
and you keep your nuts fresh. Lot of a lot
of guys, the game is important that you that you
stay fresh, you know what I'm saying. Like a lot
of them, A lot of men don't understand that. Like
you got to when you roll up on women, especially.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
You gotta smell amazing, right.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
You got to make sure everything about you is just
something because women like that. The young men today are
so I just don't think men today like women. I
think that you know, they don't want to take them out.
They don't want to give them flowers. They like, Yo,
she could do that herself. I'm with and you know,
I had a conversation with the dude to Harlem. He said,
you ain't got to do that. You know, you ain't
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got to do nothing for them. You can still, I say.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yo, what what?
Speaker 6 (37:23):
Who raised you? Just spect what I'm saying. And to
the young men who are listening, it's not about about money.
But you gotta have accomplishments, and you gotta have a
few dollars because either you're gonna pay directly or indirectly. Now,
some women got to put it right in their hand,
you know kind of women those are. And some women
you're gonna spend indirectly a movie, a dinner and then
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be man enough. See, everything is not about a purpose, right.
Just because you're taking a woman out so mean you
have to end up in bed.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
It's not about that. Sometimes a girl is best to
be a friend.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Yes, all my best relationships are home.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
Man, And you gotta think about that. Because this woman
that you turned out to be your friend, she grows
to be a producer, business person down the line. And
because you're cool, that's your opportunity. A lot of men
don't think that way. Guys start thinking that way. You
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ain't got to hit it just because you bought us something,
don't mean you gotta be mean to. Like I saw,
I heard them some guy asks a girl for a
phone number and he killed her because she didn't give
it to him.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Do you understand what I'm saying, Like, he didn't even
seemed like.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
He was tough, but man, he was a little skinny dude.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
When I'm quite sure for the rest of his life,
while he's in prison, he will regret what he did
because I know they wailing on his ass.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Oh man, he's a party.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Oh man, they will know his ass. Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (38:54):
And you young guys, y'all think you're tough, but in jail,
ain't no guns. Ain't no guns. Brother, you you're gonna
really see how the people you never see on the
street that's super super tough, and people on the street
that you don't see on the street who's super super crazy,
and they find out you did something foul.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
And they plotting on you soon as you come through.
Speaker 6 (39:18):
So that's why some people go to protective custody when
they know because they know they come out in general population.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
You've done yones right, You're done?
Speaker 5 (39:26):
So Yeah, TK Kirkling man, go check him out, catch
me if you can. World Tour tickets available right now
on Live Nation dot com. And he'll be in New Brunswick,
New Jersey this weekend at the Stress Factory.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Give them number, give them the number, Give them the number.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
What's the number?
Speaker 2 (39:41):
The number?
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Yeah, we gotta get the number. We gotta give them number.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
On hold on stress Factory. Can't they just go to
the website.
Speaker 6 (39:47):
Yeah, they get the website. You know I showed them
my age, didn't I. Yeah, you just go to stress
Factory dot com.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Get your tickets. Get your tickets.
Speaker 6 (39:55):
Lazers, Jersey City, the Tristate area, stand up t K
Kirkling home. I want everybody to come out to show
mad love to the one and only TK, and then
check me out next Friday, July eighteenth and Houston at
the House of Blues and Austin, Texas July nineteenth at
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Elmo's Austin, and please follow me at TK Underscore Kirkland
like the water at costcos K I R K L
A N D. Because some of y'all can't spell.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Well, it's the Breakfast Clubs TK Kirkland, mister.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
Wake that ass up in the morning. The breakfast club
Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Everybody is the j n V.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Jesse Lai Charlam and the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
We got a special guest in the building. That's right,
the good brother T. K.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Kirklees me to.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
The mother Fky.
Speaker 5 (00:16):
Summer visit from TK Kirkley means something big must be happening,
and it is. Yes, you just so not to catch
me if you can. World Tour, Yes, be alive Nation.
Speaker 6 (00:25):
Yes we started in April, but you know I always
try to get to you when I give you a kick.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Stuff off.
Speaker 6 (00:29):
But then with the kids and other stuff, I had
to travel, so everything worked out well. So I'm making
a pit stop this weekend for the Stress Factory because
it's my home. It's the only date that Viddy had
and I had to come do Jersey. So that's why
I'm here, you know, to promote that and to talk
about the the rest of the tour, which I'm gonna
(00:52):
be in Houston next week at the House of Blues,
and the nineteenth I'm gonna be at Elmo's in Austin, Texas.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
So I'm I'm excited. I'm excited.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Sorry, man, you just turned sixty three this year too.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, yeah, what keeps you motivated?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Man? What keeps you going?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I just think it's in my DNA, you know.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
And at one time, I think we talked about I
was going to retire, and then when you start realizing,
when you're home for a couple of days or week,
you go, wow, this is I don't know, you know,
You're like, you know what, I think I need to
stay busy because I think that's the old mindset. People
think they need to stay retired just to chill. But
I think to stay youthful and active and live a
(01:33):
long time, you actually have to be active and fit
in your schedule, working out and taking care of yourself
all so I stay consistent with that.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I wanted to ask you about, you know, comedians stealing jokes, right,
And it's something that we always talk about all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
You've come up here so many.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Times, and you probably would have first one to talk
about signs of getting old and make sure you date
somebody that knows the signs of getting old, right, right?
Hearing that joke more and more, Yes, yes, does that
upset you when you when you hear your jokes.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
Here's the thing when I said that joke. Someone says,
Simbad did that joke years ago. What people don't know
about me? And I think Charlamagne can said because he's
worked with me a lot of times. I never watch
another comic. I always stay out the room. So what
happens as you get older in life and business you
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talk about there's no comic that's not going to talk
about something that another comic has not talked about already.
It's impossible, right, it's going to be the same topic
and may not. Now, if you do somebody's material joke
for joke for joke, you're stealing the joke. But if
you dealing with topic like we all we're comedians. Do
you want to talk about marriage? You want to talk
about marriage. I want to talk about marriage, right. I
(02:46):
can't stop you from there there because that's your story.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
One thing that I do about.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
My stand up show is I read a lot and
when I go and get on the mic, whatever happens happens.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I don't have a set structure show because.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
When I got my degree, it was we were taught
that when you give a speech, you never get the
same speech for the same audience because every audience is different,
So you truly have to be prepared for what's going
to happen. So when someone to steals something in mine,
I'm not that petty. I got so much material, Like
I'll do two three hours on you in a minute.
(03:25):
But when I have my own stand up show and
I put comics on the show, I run a tight ship.
I talk about what you cannot talk about because most
comics don't have comedy IQ and comede i Q is
like a Lebron James or Michael Jordan. They know a
lot about the other players on the teams, right. Well,
(03:47):
comedians don't do that because comedians will be on the
same show and want to go right behind each other.
And let's say something happened to Will Smith. Someone doesn't
talk to him as a team and say, yo, you
talk about this, but don't talk about that because the headliner,
they all go on, talk about Will Smith, they all
go on, talk about sex, they all go on. So
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the person in the audience.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
It's like, I'm tired of this.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
He willing to listen, Like are the comics will No,
comics don't want to listen. What I what I found
out when I started structuring my show, there was I
was getting back last. Don't want nobody to shine. But
y'all know me for a long time. I worked hard
to get my name on the marquee, and I run
my show the way I want my show ran, regardless
(04:33):
of if a person gets upset or not, because I
know the quality and how I want the show to run,
and I want comics to you do this right, material,
you do this, you do that, and then bam I
come on and then it's a complete show.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
And you a tough act to follow regardless.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
DK absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't
play You already know. I bring the heat. Yeah, I
bring the heat. Whether it's a concert or whatever, I
bring the heat. And I saw you that that's interested.
That to be like a full circle moment.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
You hosted the thirtieth anniversary of the Cash Money Millionaires.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
Yes, and shout out to Baby and Slim. We've been
working on some other things and the Baby said, T
T you should do the the Essence Fest and I
turned him down. To be honest with you, Yeah, I
think when you get a certain ages, it's some things
you don't want to do.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
No more.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Ence is perfect.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
No, No, I didn't know. I haven't been to the
Essence in twenty something years.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Oh yeah, because Essence is perfect. It's a little trying
to ske a little low old. Yeah, but it's twenty five.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
What I'm saying is how old were you guys twenty
years ago? Yeh see that's when last time I was
at the Essence. So it was a different vibe then, right, Yeah,
it was a different vibe. So I was like, ah,
so since we was working on some other star, it
came back up again and I said, yo, baby, let's
you know, let's do the the Essence fast. So we
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did the Essence fast, and he got me the host
the YouTube celebration because you know, Leo Cohen and YouTube
gave them an award as well down YouTube, and I hosted.
I got to bring out the tucks and all that
kind of stuff and do something cause I don't get
a chance to wear suits that much. So that was
a good feeling. So we were doing a lot of
(06:18):
things together and so shout out the baby and no, crew,
what are you doing with them?
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Because I've been hearing that you might have a Netflix
special coming. Yeah, but I'm here and you're doing something
with Birdman's with the Birdman like a special.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
Yeah, what we're going to do is everything should be
finalized soon, but we're going to do it October eighteenth
at the Filmore in New Orleans and it's going to
be Cash Money Presents t K Kirkland.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
So we getting ready to do something really really huge,
and then we got some other big things that we're doing.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
So it's not even sent done.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
But you went on tour with them back in the day, right, I.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
Started with Cash Money And what happened was a man
shout out to Ron Bird because I was touring with
Jay z Herd Like Life tour and when we got
down to New Orleans, nelling them was all on the show,
but they didn't have nobody to host it. So I'm
sitting in the wrners, you know, my opportunist. So I said,
(07:11):
ron y'all, y'all need somebody to go on?
Speaker 4 (07:13):
He said, you want to go up?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Ron Bird was a tour manager.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, you know exactly who Ron Bird is.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I was on that tour. You was on that tour, Yeah, yeah,
Nelly bird Man fabulous.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
I was yes, ye, yeah, right, And I went on
and baby saw me and you know, he said, yo,
they was about to do Ball of Blocking And he said, Yo,
what up water? He said, listen, Yo, you're the man.
He said, ain't you that brother from New Jersey Drive?
Because I was in New Jersey Drive and I said yeah.
He says, well, we're about to do this movie called
Ball of Block. I want you to play a cop
(07:43):
and baller block. And you know, they just came into
a lot of money. So I was flying down there
all the time. And when we got ready to do
the set, I was in my dressing room and this
one baby didn't really respect money because he was carrying
money around like Floyd Mayweather. So he came in with
these two big bags of money, said Yo, how much
I owe you? I said, give me the whole damn bag.
(08:04):
So he just threw me a few thousands. Think it
was like ten fifteen thousand to do the part and
the rest of Sister because we was all me ron
birr at all on. They went shopping that day. I'll
never get it, and he bought like six bit leys
at one time.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Baby.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Why you say he don't respect money because he was
just throwing You know, I'm old school, you know, I
believe everything you make you keep like I mean, when
the word stunner really fits him.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Because he stunts yea in a positive way.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
How would you.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Tell these kids nowadays, and just people in general, how
would you tell them to respect money?
Speaker 6 (08:40):
That's a good question, Charlamagne. What kids to me don't
think about it as their future, right. I think you
get set up from the government because everybody gets their
credit card, at least they used back when you're eighteen
nineteen years old, they send you this credit card to
get have twenty five hundred dollars on it, and kids,
most kids in the hood don't never get that kind
(09:02):
of money at one time, so they go shopping, never
pay the credit card bill.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Now, when you get older, you really get your life.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
They gave them to get your credit card, and you
realize now that twenty five hundred it's thirty thousand, five
hundred and eighteen cent. It was a setup from the beginning.
So what we want to tell kids is think about
your future. Because when you get my age, and not
even my age, you understand it better. But you can
really start it in your twenties and thirties, understand points
and discounts. Now, all of y'all travel a lot, most
(09:31):
of y'all in here, travel for free on some place
cause you got miles and points. So when you run
into a situation, you don't spend your money. You use
your points to book them two round trips, two round trips,
tickets to England or Saint Lucia's or Jamaica.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Or Hawaii or Africa. Right, you do that.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
So what we want the kids to understand is get
your nice credit card, start building up. Start going to
different hotels and you might start a low get to
marry a bomb boy and all that, and build up
points over the years, and as you get older, you'll
start having discounts. You'll get free airline tickets and bring
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your girl when they upgrade you from a regular room
to the presidential suite at the Saint Regis's Goods. You
are an elite customer. And that's the stuff I think
that we had to teach people because one of my
things I put in my actors were like Rockefeller was
so amazing. He got most people thinking that most of
(10:31):
the schools in Atlanta HBCU schools.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Rockefeller.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
Yeah, watch the game. A lot of people think that
Spellman is an HBCU school, is not watch I'm about
to tell you ready, Rock Spellman is Rockefeller's wife.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
They dropped the Rockefeller Spellman.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
I don't know if any of this is true, but.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Better google it right now. I know what I'm talking about.
Right while we on the air, I'm listening. Oh yeah,
while we're on the air. Spellman is Rockefeller's wife.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Let me see. Oh, Laura Spellman Rockefeller.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Laura Spellman Rockefeller was an American abolitionist, philanthropist, school teacher,
and prominent member of the Rockefeller Fellow family.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Her husband was Standard Oil co founder John D. Rockefeller.
Spelman College in Atlanta, Georgia, and the Lawrence Spellerman Rockefeller
Memorial with name for her. Okay, you learned something new
every day?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Isn't that something? Yell?
Speaker 2 (11:33):
That's crazy? So Spelman, the HBCU is named after a
white woman. That's wow. I never knew that.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
You see you what I'm saying? Ain't that insane?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
That's wild?
Speaker 4 (11:45):
What made you?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
How'd you?
Speaker 4 (11:46):
When did you?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
When did you hear that?
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Like?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Many years ago?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Because I read a lot and it blew my mind.
I read a lot too, but I ain't never read that. Yeah,
that's what I haven't read every book, right, isn't that amazing.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (11:58):
In eighteen eighty four, the school express your attitude for
Rockerfeller's generosity by changing the name.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Spelman College was named as the Laura Spelman due to
her significant financial contribution to the institution.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Throughout her life.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Laura Spelman was dedicated to social and educational causes, particularly
for women in African Americans. Yes, so it's the HBCU.
She just donated a lot of money to it. Wow,
they said, yeah, I knew this, though the rock Feller
family continued to donate ten percent of their income to charity,
including substantial donations to Spelman Founded to educate Black women.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Wow, and wow other colleges around there. It's just not Spellman.
So it's just amazing things that happened in eighteen hundreds.
How the world can manipulate or change, because there's just
some things we just don't know. Just like I've read
the other day and saw the first Bible that came
(12:48):
out in eighteen hundreds, and how the when we got colonized,
how they changed all the black faces to white. Even
the last Supper was all black people, and it's just
just just totally just been manipulated. Now, one thing I
don't want to get into as og the things that
(13:10):
I always talk about. You you don't talk about religion
and politics. That's the real So that's something you know.
I just wanted to mention that just a little and
move on, because you know.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Just to put it out there.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
There's more House too, Henry Lyneman Morehouse, who was a
Baptist minister from Stanford.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
New York. Yes he's a white gentleman as well. Yes
he's a white gentleman.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Why didn't name it after him?
Speaker 5 (13:31):
You're gonna have me researching this research, But at least
the world is about to see something that because I'm
quite sure if you don't know a lot of because
when I say it in my stand up, people are
blown away. I'm quite sure some people don't believe, Like
you almost didn't believe me until you google it. I
did not believe you right right right, But I'm saying
people was to feel the same way. But people don't
have enough time when they in the show to google it,
(13:53):
so they go out. Maybe he's telling the truth, Maybe
he's not telling the truth. So it's crazy.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
Man.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
I saw you on Black TV. You said that a
phase on love stopped you from killing somebody from shooting somebody.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, shout out the phase on. I'm always
gonna show love the phase on. Back in the nineties,
I had some issues with some gentlemen down in the
comedy club. And I could tell the whole story.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
What happened.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Gon shoot a comedian.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
No no, no, no, the owner.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
He going to the top, the owner because it was
a hustling dude out of Detroit, and he was, you know,
he had influenced a lot of young men. You know,
everybody took the wrong side of that business. Instead of
running the comic club. They all thought they was gangsters.
And I went out earlier that day and wound up
meeting this girl, probably the night before, and we wound
(14:42):
up having sex during the day. So I learned so
much to this point in life that I tried not
to have sex before show because I'm just tired, tired,
and me and this girl, you know, we threw down
dog by two, three o'clock.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I'm out and I got three ose that night and
I missed too, woke up panicing.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
You know.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
And one thing about me, I always like to smell girls.
I'm still taking my shower. I ain't going out until
I washed my ass. Right, So I get there and
they all are in the office, you know, thinking that
they're tough, talk about TK what happened. I'm trying to
tell and want to do. Spunch me in my face
for being late, for being late, that's my point.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
Now I had already caught the case here in New
York with the puppy situation back in the day.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Right, hold on, you need to for people that are
new here.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
Oh yeah, because everything that was the credit card frauds
that we had back in the nineties.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Right, And.
Speaker 6 (15:43):
And once you go to court, your hands are tied
because you're on probation. Now I was in a very
crazy situation. I had the puppet case here in ninety eight,
but a year before that, I had caught the case
in La So now New York was trying to convict
me as a predicate felon, right, and a predicate fella
in the state of New York is a mandatory four
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to six years. So I'm dealing with that. A lot
of people got to pass in my lifetime, is because
I had something else over my head. And once you
get in front of a DA or a prosecutor that
really want.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
To they wait, Yeah, they waiting for you to slip.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
You got to turn the other cheek when people are
putting you in.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
A bad situation. So you got to make good choices.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
How old were you when.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
This is forty something years old?
Speaker 6 (16:31):
And let me tell you something, when you get hit
in forty something, it hurt, especiallyh you ain't been hit
in a long time. Like it's a whole different type
of feeling when you get hit like that. And so
what I did was I went to the whip.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I just want to tell you, I just think it's wild.
Like he was forty years old knocking off his student.
I thought this was like a twenty year old thing,
like you know, you know, you little reckless he knock
off and get.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Late, But you forty years old come into the club late?
Speaker 6 (16:57):
Yeah, coming, But that's the saying. I had a little
situation and coming back up, was coming up, coming up
the blast, and Faison saw me. He snatched me up,
got me in the car and he's driving yelling at me.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
When he saw you with the gun.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Oh yeah, I was getting about to be on dog.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
He was walking out the street with the hen.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Back then, I was crazy, you know, I always kept something, and.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
So did he punched you and you left?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yeah, I left.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
The guys left, so I didn't yell at fight. I
just knew what I was gonna do. I went right outside.
They wouldn't come outside. They were scared, so they wounded
to call on the police and everything, and Faison snatched
me up and got me out, and he was yelling
at me because Faison also was one of the good
friends who wrote me a character letter or the puppy
situation to the judge here named Margaret, who put fear
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in my heart. This woman has so I could just
tell she was tired of me, because what happens when
you go to court, they do care about that chick
of the case, but what they care about is your past.
And her concern was how did he get away with
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all this other stuff, like y'all should have stopped him
years ago. And basically what she was saying is the
buck stops here. So she put feared me to the
point that I had literally took a deal with New York,
you know, to turn myself in in January, and I
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was going to do the four to six years. And
my business manager at the time, David Cleman, said they
have underestimated you. So I'm still traveling. I go to Harlem,
not go to Vegas if I lived in Vegas. I
go to Vegas. I'm gambling and I meet this guy
stand next to me, and he happens to be an
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attorney from Long Island and his name was Tony Capitella.
You know, now, I'm thinking I'm in the Sopranos capitaler.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
So he's talking to me and I'm.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
Telling about this case in New York. He said, well,
if you help me out do this, I'll help you.
So he got Tony Tepper and Frank Dodado was his partner.
I don't know if they're still alive, and we work
out a deal. I helped them out on the situation
and they come to court. But this is what I
tell them in Januar, because I met them like in November,
(19:22):
and I said, listen, when you come to Manhattan, you
cannot come late, because this lady was tough. He comes
an hour late, but he's sharved, got this church Koto
is on and we took my deal off the table,
and the judge was so mad. I didn't even know
if that word, this word meant until she said it
she said, reprimand mister Kirkland.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Put him a handcuff, took me in.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Handcuffed dog and took me to Rikers for thirty days
because I changed. I took the deal off, so she
wasn't playing. Now while I'm up in Rikers Island fighting
the Puffy case, Puffy gets in trouble with Seine and
Jennifer Lopez at the club with the gun. So the
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same DA people come to me that's trying to put
me away. They want Puffy that bad, so they come
to Righters Allen and my Atturney is there. He said, hey,
they want to talk to you and want to know
what you talk to the grand jury that you saw
Puffy with the gun, and you know, me being clever,
(20:29):
I said, y'all get me out of here. We can
talk about it.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
You know.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
So they took me from Rykers Allen back down to
the tombs. So you know, the CS know you, right,
so they see the detectives every day that what's going on.
So they taking me out and they got me in
the black car and we're going to the club where
the shooting happened. But they're not telling me exactly what happened.
They want me to Rea retream lines. So they're saying,
(20:54):
you was here and Puffy was here. So I'm like,
I was here, Puffy was then, So you know, I'm
like going through it. But all this time, for the
three days they took me out, I'm getting blimpies, getting blimpies,
you know, because in jail the food is horrible. So
I'm like, I'm hungry, I'm thirsty. You know, I'm eating
my butt off, right, you know. They take me back
(21:16):
up to Rikers Island. I think a week later. They
come to me and my attorney says, TK, they want
to know if you're gonna help them with the grand jury.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
And I said, oh, is not the club that night?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
No, they wanted to be to lie.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Oh okay, so they wanted you to put yourself in
the club.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
Yeah, they want to put myself in the club because
that's how bad they wanted Puffy.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Damn.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
Yeah, they want him, that bad dog. And I said, nah,
I'm good. They was mad as hell.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yo.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
I said, now I'm good. And I wind up getting
that four to six off the table. I got five
years probation and here I am a successful business stand up.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Did you ever have that conversation with Puffin told tell
Puff what they were trying to do.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
And now, no, we never, we never had that discussion.
We nevers.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
You might have stopp Puffs, Rain and Taram TK if
you'd have said something back then.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
No, but I wasn't there. It would have been alive.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
They put him in jail.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Oh yeah, yeah, always that type of situation.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
Yeah, yeah, I totally agree puffa. Yeah, but puff is
going through what he's supposed to go through, because that
makes sense. See, in life, you get so many chances
to do right. And because I've been there, you have
so many chances to do right. If you don't do right,
the universe has a way of humbling you.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
I agree with that.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
The universe will humble you dog more than you mentioned
because as you you know, we're all successful, right. You
get up certain days, got your chest out a little
bit more. Some days, you know, you treat some people
a little wrong. You know, sometimes you know just the
way it is right. But you gotta take that moment
to say to yourself, yo, I'm blessed. That's not that's
(22:57):
not Let's not push this envelope because God can really
take this away from you. And if you keep treating
people bad, you keep doing violent things to women, you
keep being disrespectful. Now, don't get me wrong, you can
do this maybe one year, maybe a week, right, and
(23:20):
then get your life together. But if you have a
track record for years and you didn't figure it out,
all the universe or make you pay. And when that
situation happened to me with puff, what hurt me? Well,
we didn't have social media then. But what hurt me
my mom found out Cause when I was doing crime before,
(23:42):
we didn't have social media, no one knew about your business.
You could have shot somebody, right, but no one knows
what you did a week ago. So now this hit
the news. Now, the same people who love you and
respect you, when you get in trouble, they're embarrassed because
they whole career they talk about how amazing you are,
(24:02):
how blah blah blah, and when you hurt them, it's
a blow. And my mother didn't go to church sholl
for like six months. You stop going to the same
place to get her hear about it. Yeah, she ain'tanna
hear about you. So I explained to hers that ma,
do not be embarrassed. As he raised me, right, I said,
you raised me right. You know, so someone says to you,
just say, you know, he's his own man. That was
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his choices, and all those experiences made me who I
am today, right sixty something years old. I'm humble, I'm
respectful of life, and to still doing what I'm doing
at my age is just in a total gift in shape,
(24:45):
stay in the doctor's office, strong shoulders, and senior citizen.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
And you know you are considered the senior citizens. I
am a senior sixty five.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
He started, he started at fifty five. You get your
ARP card at fifty five, you know, you know. And
now I'm president of the Homeowners Association. You know I
got Medicare AMB plus my private insurance. And that's why
I tell the young men to start stepping their game up,
because even though I'm in my six I still can
pull your girl. And they said, TK, what do you mean.
(25:18):
I said, because I could put your woman on my insurance.
I said, y'all out here dating women. She got a
tooth missing. You know, so y'all hear dating women you
only got You know, I'm not against surgery, that's what
you want to do. But if you can't get your
if you're gonna get your girl the butt or she
get a button and you can't give it an extra
few dollars to have the five to match the butt.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
It's not a relationship.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Insurance is important because a lot of these women page
balance be off, yes, be having that little yehishy older.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Yeah, but they can't even get to the doctor.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
They can't get to the doctor. Yeah. So that's the
where I come in. You know, I'll put them on
my insurance.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
You don't want to ask you about you brought up
puff and I just was thinking about, like a lot
of people from your era and people that you worked with.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
When when when I first met TK was when I was.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Working with Wendy will Yes, yes, and you was hosting
the It was she had a toy, it was.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
You.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
And what's the young man's name that got caught with
the trans Bobby Valentino, Boy Valentina.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
All right, But so when you when you see the situation,
when you see how things like Wendy turned out, like,
what do you think.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
Isn't that amazing the consequences of your choices. See, everything
is about the consequences of your choices. Some people only
think I try to teach people not to think about tomorrow.
I teach people to think about ten, fifteen, twenty years
from now. You have to think that far in advance.
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All great people think that far in advance. What I
mean by that, that's use football as analogy. Joe my
time to Tom Brady when they played games. What makes
them great championships? We're looking at the field. Most average
quarterbacks only look six yards with ever, but Joe Montanna,
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Tom Brady, the whole stadium is there feel and gives.
I've always tell people when I read this, saw this
interview Joe Montana in the eighties playing against It was
San Francisco playing against Dallas and they was losing. This
on the first time San Francisco beat Dallas NFC championship
up and in the other Joe Montana said, hey, guys,
(27:26):
you see John Candy up in the stands, like he
was so comfortable that he wasn't caring about what was
going to happen. He had saw John Candy and John
Kyne was big back in the eighties. He had, so
John Kane in the stands and that's the conversation he
was happening having with his team and great athletes.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Great people see the future.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
They don't think about, Like, my life is planned for
the next twenty five years. I know exactly what I'm doing,
you know, And that's just something that keeps me motivated.
I know one I'm wearing on this particular day. That's
how far advanced I think. And that's what people have
to start think about. Some people don't think they're.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Going to die.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
Some people don't want to get insurance, some people don't
want to work out. And all the young people today
who are drinking alcohol all the time, you know what
they're not thinking about the consequences of the drinking, the
consequences of drinking years down the line.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
What is going to do to your body? And nobody cares.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
And I just want everybody to have a long life
because the thing that I understand about this world is,
and it's my understanding with the universe, is as long
as I live long enough on this planet, I'm going
to get everything that this universe has to give me.
I will get everything I want. I would get everything
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I want.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
I want to ask you about faith and Steve and
a too, they were going back and forth about Oja
being mentioned that the BT.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
Was yes, and I am I can explain that Faizon
has his opinion, Steven has a spiritual and what I
want to tell African American and Spanish whoever are really
rocking with black people. We know O J killed the bitch, right,
Let's just do this like it's facts. Yeah, but let's
watch where I'm going. You know, we know you killed
(29:13):
the bit, but OJ's family. You know you're still buy
them obile for dinner. You know, but you hide the knives. Jesus,
you hide the knives.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
You know.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Faise on My Man phase on it said the exact
way to say Stephen A. Smith, my man, Shay Shane.
I think men of power. I moved differently, you know quite.
I think I'm older than those guys. When you're when
you're black, are really black. I'm not saying they're not black.
(29:53):
Ones is you have a duty to protect your people,
and when people come there and you start talking crazy,
you got to say, you know what, not on this show.
We're not going to We're not going to do that
on this show because we move a certain way on
this show. That's my definition of a man that you
(30:14):
hold everybody that comes on your show accountable. When you're
talking about your culture and your community. It's very important
because that's something that we don't do. You know, even
though we might know that person is wrong, but in
front of the world, you got to protect your people,
and that's what we are. But in front we have to cook.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
That's what other races do. And when you think about
other races.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
See the reason why black men are considering no good
just baby daddy is because African American women talk to
the world about how bad we are. But you don't
know nothing about the Mexican man. You don't know nothing
about the Indian India. Right, they don't talk about there
and what I've learned their life, they're just as bad
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as we are.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
I see what you're saying, because to that point, we
do we that does happen to us.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
But black men do that. The black women historically bitches
whole right right right right, women don't listen.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Right right.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
We all talk about each other. And as a start, now,
when I'm on stage, I use the word B I,
T C H. I use profanity. The reason why I
do that because I want to get my porn across.
But if he knows when I'm on your shild, don't
use profanity. I don't curse in front of my children.
My profanity is strictly for entertainment purposes.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
I mean, even what you said about about Nicole Brown Simpson,
that was it was a joke.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
Yes, and let's make sure I'm glad you said that. Listen, people,
that was a joke. Do not come after me talking
about Oh my god. He insisitive. He tells yo, I
don't want that problem. And I hope they don't cut
that part out, you know what I'm saying, because you
know how the world is, right, they'll just use that
part and everything else we'll have a problem.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Yeah, that's why you always said it's hard to find
good friends.
Speaker 6 (32:04):
Man. Yeah, I think that's the tough thing to do.
You know, Charlamagne, we live in the world of habitual liars,
in fact, habitual liars, and we all want to do
good because of our experience in life. And you meet
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someone and you feel something for them, you want to
get that person a shot. They just caught you at
the right time, right, they caught you at the right time,
and you're like, I'm gonna get this person a shot,
but you don't see it coming. So there's two lessons
in this journey, right, Two lessons is once you find
out that person's a bitual liar, it teaches you to
keep your guard up for the rest of your life
(32:46):
and you're only gonna get played once, not just when
that person teaches you to be that way with everybody,
because it shows you that everybody has the ability to
get you. Everybody female, dude, they got to bed. I'm
not talking to be robbery. Talk about your time, talk
about relationships and talking about finance. Business like people go
(33:06):
into business with people because people don't take the time
to get to know person's character, find out where they live.
Every time somebody want to do business with me, I said.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Yo yo yo yo, Wait wait, wait, let's get to
know each other first. But when people hear something good,
they're like yo, exchange numbers, do X, Y and Z.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
People not reading the contracts, people exchanging information ba.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Now you can't find.
Speaker 6 (33:29):
Them because they disappeared and people have to take their
time to get the others going through DC and the
guy saw me and walking one way, he said, yo,
I got a business opportunity, said why.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
You want to do business with me?
Speaker 6 (33:42):
So I don't know you? I said, no disrespect, I said,
I don't know you so why would you want to
do business with me? Why would I want to do
business with you. I have never met your mother. I
don't know where you are. I don't And that's my point.
We have to stop that. We have to really get
into finding how a person moves and and life teaches
you little things about person. A person say the day
(34:04):
successful you got to peep out their hands, what kind
of sneakers they got on? Are they a fast talker?
Because some people in they are fast talker and run
a lot of gang. You say, oh, okay, because I
teach people who roll with me.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
What do you mean when you said what they got on?
Speaker 5 (34:20):
Because when I was growing up, my daddy would point
to these white men in my town, monks corner, and
they would look regular as hell, and he'd be like,
that's the richest man in corner. I ain't wear none
of his money. But watch what I'm about to tell you.
You could wear something simple, but you know it's quality.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
M See when I'm in London and me and my
daughter we went to go see the Mona.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Lisa and.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
Scott just regular T shirt jeans. It was kind of big,
but you paid attention to detail. He had the cuff
turned up right on the sneaker, I mean on his jeans, and.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
It was findy.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
But when you know, you know, yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
You see what I'm saying. We as you get older,
you understand, Like see, in your twenties, thirties and forties,
you think people care. In your fifties and sixties, you
realize nobody gave a fuck. Nobody gave a good job, right,
no one gave a fuck. You know, I drove everything
from a Bentley to a mini van.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Nobody cares. Nobody cares for real, nobody cares. It feels
good for you.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Nobody gives it. Damn nobody going when you die, nobody gonna.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Be like he drove a bit right, Nobody cares.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
He wore f indy every day, Charlamagne, nobody cares, you know.
And when you think about us as well, we all
came up. We wore sneakers and shurees till the hole
came in the bottom. Remember the back in the day,
your sock be out, and all of us here together
probably got three thousand sneakers.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
Easy, and don't wear none of them.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Don't wear none of them.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
You are not lying. So as soon as it.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Gets a little dirty, don't get another pair.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
Isn't that something they climb because I wear the thing
cloth that all the time.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Smart, I don't nobody cares. As long as you got
a fresh underwear.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
I don't even know if he does that.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
You think that same teacher tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Okay, But long as this underwear game is, I just
like it.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
When I get comfortable, I'm comfortable.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Listen to me.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
I watch you guys all the time, like like my brothers,
and I see how comfortable you are.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
And the only thing I can say about that, long
as you wash it, you.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Don't watch it tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
As long as you watch a little wood light, and
everything don't lose color, you know, and you always smell good,
and you keep your nuts fresh. Lot of a lot
of guys, the game is important that you that you
stay fresh, you know what I'm saying. Like a lot
of them, A lot of men don't understand that. Like
you got to when you roll up on women, especially.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
You gotta smell amazing, right.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
You got to make sure everything about you is just
something because women like that. The young men today are
so I just don't think men today like women. I
think that you know, they don't want to take them out.
They don't want to give them flowers. They like, Yo,
she could do that herself. I'm with and you know,
I had a conversation with the dude to Harlem. He said,
you ain't got to do that. You know, you ain't
(37:20):
got to do nothing for them. You can still, I say.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yo, what what?
Speaker 6 (37:23):
Who raised you? Just spect what I'm saying. And to
the young men who are listening, it's not about about money.
But you gotta have accomplishments, and you gotta have a
few dollars because either you're gonna pay directly or indirectly. Now,
some women got to put it right in their hand,
you know kind of women those are. And some women
you're gonna spend indirectly a movie, a dinner and then
(37:46):
be man enough. See, everything is not about a purpose, right.
Just because you're taking a woman out so mean you
have to end up in bed.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
It's not about that. Sometimes a girl is best to
be a friend.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Yes, all my best relationships are home.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
Man, And you gotta think about that. Because this woman
that you turned out to be your friend, she grows
to be a producer, business person down the line. And
because you're cool, that's your opportunity. A lot of men
don't think that way. Guys start thinking that way. You
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ain't got to hit it just because you bought us something,
don't mean you gotta be mean to. Like I saw,
I heard them some guy asks a girl for a
phone number and he killed her because she didn't give
it to him.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Do you understand what I'm saying, Like, he didn't even
seemed like.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
He was tough, but man, he was a little skinny dude.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
When I'm quite sure for the rest of his life,
while he's in prison, he will regret what he did
because I know they wailing on his ass.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Oh man, he's a party.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Oh man, they will know his ass. Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (38:54):
And you young guys, y'all think you're tough, but in jail,
ain't no guns. Ain't no guns. Brother, you you're gonna
really see how the people you never see on the
street that's super super tough, and people on the street
that you don't see on the street who's super super crazy,
and they find out you did something foul.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
And they plotting on you soon as you come through.
Speaker 6 (39:18):
So that's why some people go to protective custody when
they know because they know they come out in general population.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
You've done yones right, You're done?
Speaker 5 (39:26):
So Yeah, TK Kirkling man, go check him out, catch
me if you can. World Tour tickets available right now
on Live Nation dot com. And he'll be in New Brunswick,
New Jersey this weekend at the Stress Factory.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Give them number, give them the number, Give them the number.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
What's the number?
Speaker 2 (39:41):
The number?
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Yeah, we gotta get the number. We gotta give them number.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
On hold on stress Factory. Can't they just go to
the website.
Speaker 6 (39:47):
Yeah, they get the website. You know I showed them
my age, didn't I. Yeah, you just go to stress
Factory dot com.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Get your tickets. Get your tickets.
Speaker 6 (39:55):
Lazers, Jersey City, the Tristate area, stand up t K
Kirkling home. I want everybody to come out to show
mad love to the one and only TK, and then
check me out next Friday, July eighteenth and Houston at
the House of Blues and Austin, Texas July nineteenth at
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Elmo's Austin, and please follow me at TK Underscore Kirkland
like the water at costcos K I R K L
A N D. Because some of y'all can't spell.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Well, it's the Breakfast Clubs TK Kirkland, mister.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
Wake that ass up in the morning. The breakfast club
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