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September 2, 2024 40 mins

The Breakfast Club sits down with Trae Tha Truth to discuss his new music, custody of his daughter, and moving on from Z-Ro situation. Listen for more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
The Breakfast Club Morning, Everybody's d j Envy, Jess Hilarious,
Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Laura La
Ross is feeling in for Jess. And we got a
special guest in the building. We got Trade of Truth.
Welcome back, Trey bro Man.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
How you feeling man?

Speaker 3 (00:17):
How you doing?

Speaker 4 (00:18):
Brother? Life and life?

Speaker 1 (00:21):
You know, I know you got a lot going on you.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
You want to start with the BS, So you want
to start with the positive first.

Speaker 5 (00:26):
I don't want to talk about the negative. I need
I need the energy from y'all right, No, man, I
don't even know what this is. This the candle spiritual.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Zone set the mood every morning.

Speaker 6 (00:40):
I got policy need some poly that It's supposed to
be like good energy, good byes. But with him lighting it,
you have fifty to fifty chance that, you know, because
he it depends on what was looming over him at
the time.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
So how you feeling Brother? Album out right now? Album's
doing well.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
Proud Control Control.

Speaker 5 (00:59):
Yeah, it's just you know, I'm always trying to add
to the catalog and level up, you know, and the
little Homiemoxy pumped me up to do a turn up
festival song and it ended up turning out to be
a whole album.

Speaker 7 (01:12):
So you just put out you just put out Stuck
in Motion last year though.

Speaker 5 (01:16):
Yeah. Yeah, But I crazy thing is I'm still kind
of at a stand still. I got three more supposed
to put out this year. I don't know how, but
they are different vibes though, you know, because I have
the turn up, which is crowd control. I got an
album called Him, which is another kind of turn up,
A most street dark Angel was just all the pain

(01:39):
and everything I'm going through. I think that a lot
of people probably can use right now to know that thing,
the only ones going through it.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
And then.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
Live from Mars, the homie Mars from La who do
a lot of real production, you know, play all the
instruments on tour for everybody. It's a whole album with
just live instruments stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
So how you doing all these albums? Trade and you
put your cape on your saving people, you're cutting down trees,
you're driving through hurricanes. But then you still got time
to do trade day, to do an album and everything
else you do. Where are you finding the time to
do all this? Do you ever just stop and take
a break and just rest and relax.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
You know, you're the only ones who ask.

Speaker 7 (02:18):
Man.

Speaker 5 (02:18):
You know, I still ain't took a break, and how
I do the music. I just get out of my
bed and walk next door to the studio. So I
just was sitting there twenty four seven, man. But yeah,
I don't know, man, the break just it still ain't
hit me.

Speaker 6 (02:32):
A lot of people with your catalog don't like like
they're not putting out. You said you got three more
projects before the end of the year that are supposed
to come. What is the motivation there, because at this
point you could kind of just you know, do all
your community stuff and just kind.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Of be like, thankfu. Hurricane was kind of light, man,
was it Like it is a lot of a lot.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Like it was like.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
It wasn't. It wasn't. It was light, but it wasn't
like like it could have been. Wait for what we expected.
We thought it was gonna be way worse and it didn't.
And then you know, Hurricane Burr, you know, it did
it's damage, but it wasn't a Harvey. So we bliss,
you know, And maybe I'm speaking too soon. I don't
even want to talk. You don't want that.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, you get do you feel like the way that
that hurricanes and the weather affects Houston so bad, it's
so crazy. Do you feel like they should have been
fixed the problems like the flood Like it seems like
every year we have the same problems with Houston with
the flooding and it is and electric and it is.
It feels like they should have figured out how to
prepare or fix or stop, you know, at the resources.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
Yeah, yeah, I think honestly.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
I mean, one thing for sure that we don't have
is the proper draining system because it can rank for
a matter of an hour and certain areas get flooded,
so clearly it ain't got to be a problem, you know.
And speaking of that, it's so crazy. I teamed up
with these people out of Australia and part of the
company and now it's called crisis flood bags. And what

(03:59):
I'm trying to do right now, I'm trying to I've
been meeting with different people, but I'm trying to get
female insurance companies or the government to get it.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
The bag.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
I could take one bag and fill up everything, including
this disc in one bag out.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Of a room.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
It can do living rooms, bedrooms and once the bag
is zip, it can stay underwater for two weeks. Wow,
So you gotta think even though you're not able. I mean,
the home can be damaged, you know, because you can't
stop the flood. But stuff that mean the most, to
priceless stuff and important stuff or be protected.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
And then you gotta think.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
Man Darren Harvey, they they said it was bes to
clean up just the trash that was sitting outside on
the curve. So if I could prevent that, you know,
that's changed the whole bunch of lives. But the goal
is get one of these agencies like THEMA or insurance
companies to get it. You know, if they get enough
of them there for the people who came afford them,
I can go get them out for free, you know.

(04:57):
So I'm always trying to just be proactive. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Absolutely, Why do you mean not? I'm crowd control.

Speaker 5 (05:04):
Because it's a festival vibe. You gotta be able to
control the crowd whenever you touch the stage.

Speaker 7 (05:09):
You know, I wanted to ask you because we had
a man Sauce walk up here a couple of weeks
ago and he was just talking about cultural appropriation versus
cultural appreciation, and he said he feels like an artist
like Drake, who is in the city so much, should
do more for the city as far as working with
Houston artists.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
And I wonder what you was on that.

Speaker 5 (05:30):
I think everybody, and honestly, it all depends on what
point of view you look at it. And I think
as grown men, we all entitled to our point of views.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
As far as me, I can only speak for myself.
You know, I haven't. I really ain't in tune with
what you're talking about.

Speaker 5 (05:47):
And me and him may had a conversation to see
his aspect, because one thing I've learned in all things
is a lot of people can say stuff and mean stuff,
but how I come across on the internet of the
high come across as pushed out can be some totally opposite.
So you know, I think unto me and him hold
a conversation, and now you said, I probably have to

(06:09):
go look back, man. I really I've been off the internet, man,
dealing with life lately.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
Man Like I had to make myself push this app.

Speaker 5 (06:17):
You know what I'm saying, and that's stuff that I
you know, I legally I can't even just talk about
right now. But it's just you know, life and life
and man. But what I will say for Houston as
a whole, though, I'm very proud. You got to think, man, one,
we already had the biggest stars, which it's under novel.
You had, you got yours, you got your Travis, you

(06:40):
got your MiGs, you got your Yolanda Adams, even down
to one of the biggest stars that we all grew
up on, Pelicea Rashad. You know, you have people from Houston,
but now you have so many you know, from the
street aspect, you had the rejects from the generations after us,
you have the the souce wall because the Little Jeremy is,

(07:01):
you know, the fast lanes and you know, just it's
so many different aspects. And then you have a bunch
of females coming out of Houston and coming out of Texas.
That's raw me personally my mind right now that I
highlight definitely be the rejects, which is you got Big
Tony Calwayne, jack Boy, fast Money, thirty Ways, get Millie

(07:27):
Bucks Lay. I mean, it's a lot of people, and
it'd be hard to share light on names because then
you forget people need you like damn. But I think
right now as a whole, I think people should definitely
pay attention to what we got going on in Houston,
and then in the game people don't.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
Really realize what we give to the culture.

Speaker 5 (07:47):
You go to think of double cups, you go to
think of grills, you go to think of cars, you
go to think of speaking to Envy. You know, he
ain't gonna think the cause the best of Houston it is.
But Nah, even when you go to think of trap soul,
that's all a form of what Screw used to do.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
You gotta think who don't love trap soul right now?
From Brighton to They're like, so, I think everybody takes
a part of Houston as a whole. And now, shit,
we're the biggest goddamn party city right now.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
I was going to say that.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
You know, it was New York for a while, then
it went to Atlanta. Now everybody's going to Houston. How
does that affect the city or are people respecting the
city or because at one time they would effort.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Atlanta up during COVID, I mean, it was so much
going on, they cleaned it up lot. But how was
it How was it affected Houston.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
I think it's a good thing, man. I think it's
a good thing for the economy because it brings business.
You know, people now when they do they what do
you call it? Like they they trips with their homies.
Are they friends?

Speaker 4 (08:47):
We can all going.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, Houston fellas drive out and headed to Houston.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
So and then other than that, you have people like
us who are on the front line. We ain't just
letting nobody come through there and tell the town up.
That part we ain't gonna do. But I think everything
for us is it's on the up and up. You know,
everybody have they they spans. You have different things whether
it may be music, sports or whatever. Florida you have that,
on the West Coast, you have it in New York.

(09:15):
And now even down to the Rockets, down to the Texans,
down to the rugby team. People don't even know we
got a rugby team.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
We had.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
Our rugby team was number two last year, you know.
So we got a whole bunch of different things, just
as a whole with Houston and outside of that, I'm
frontline for its so everything I represent everybody who except
me excepting Houston.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Right now, when you talk about life be life and right.

Speaker 7 (09:39):
How do you know that you just ain't doing things
to stay away from having to deal with all of
that trade like putting out the music, you know, frontline
and all of the time when there's a catastrophe in
the city, Like, how do you know you just ain't
running from dealing with your own stuff?

Speaker 4 (09:56):
What do you mean as far as me running from
our own problem?

Speaker 6 (10:00):
That I may see this you with this therapy shit,
it feels like you.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
I can laugh and joke about it only because it's
it's still my brother, But I know the angle he's going.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
I don't know. I can't say I'm running.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
I can't say I'm running because I deal with my
problems head on. I think a lot of people what
I learned recently, so I did for trade that I
did my first man's mental health panel, you know, just
for people to get up there and just express themselves
for what they're going through. And man, a lot of
us did a lot of trauma that we probably didn't realize,

(10:43):
you know.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
And I don't think I'm running.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
I think honestly, for me, I'm not comfortable unless I
stay active. If I sit still, when I get to
overthinking too I just feel like stuff just coming to
a halt.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
So I have to just stay active.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
And even if it's a thousand pounds of pressure, I'm
more comfortable getting out of that and just doing nothing.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
I could be wrong from Tom, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (11:09):
I mean, until that one therapist sit me down and
say this is what this is?

Speaker 4 (11:13):
Man? Never know, did you ever find one?

Speaker 5 (11:17):
I talked to some people through you. Now have I
actually went in that room and sat down. I haven't
did that, but but we have long phone conversations and
now you know, not to get too much into it now.
I got primary custody of my daughter, so I just
introduced just introduced her to a therapist. So you know,

(11:41):
it's just it's it's a lot of different things that
I gotta you know, I'm still climbing.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
I'm sick, sick, So how is he talking to a therapist?

Speaker 4 (11:49):
Oh? You know the crazy thing?

Speaker 6 (11:51):
Man?

Speaker 5 (11:51):
The time that that that I've allowed her to go
because really I'm still I want to find the perfect one.
I don't I don't necessarily know if the first thing
I take her to is the one she should stick with.
But I allow her to do her own thing. I
you know, I get out the way and she can
have her own conversation and then you know, I learned
about it afterwards, but I think everything works.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Again, Why was it important for you to you know,
because a lot of parents to say, I don't know
if I want to put my child into therapy. Why
do you think it was important to put her into therapy?
Because it's a good conversation for parents, you know. Why
do you think it was like, you know, I think
this is something that benefit her, especially because you haven't
done it.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
Huh. That's one reason, because I know I should.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
But then you got to think transitioning from one home
to the next, I don't This is new to me,
so I don't know how long that process take. I
don't know if that process is going to take a week,
two weeks.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
I don't know if it's gonna take years months.

Speaker 5 (12:49):
So the only thing I can do is do my
best to support her, you know, because at the same time,
I have to let her know how much she love.
I have to let her know even though she may
be frustrated, because you know, their kids, they have friends,
they have things that they used to Now it's a
new transition. So I have to just I think God

(13:09):
teaching me patients in this situation too, because a time
she may just sit and cryd or make say she
want on mama, Like I have to still be over
loving to it or let her know like regardless of
what it is, like, I'm here, gon, we're gonna figure
it out. I mean, if we both got ourselves here
and keep bumping our heads, so be it.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
But we're gonna figure it out. And your Pop's gonna
be with you to the end.

Speaker 6 (13:31):
A lot of us watched you in that like fight
with your daughter, like trying to figure out the custody
thing or whatever. How does it feel now to be
able to, like you said, like you're doing things like
putting her in therapy, working things out together, Like you
don't have to fight anywhere, you can just be dad.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Now, how does that feel.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
I'm not gonna listarily say I don't have to fight
no more, but what I will say is it's a process.
You know the crazy thing you find things like that
we be proud of that we accomplish, and how to
all the big stuff I did in life? You know,
on the happiest moment was then roll in school. You

(14:06):
see what I'm saying, Like stuff like that. She got
me out there watching her do cheerleading, so you know that, look,
it'd be weird because everybody's staying like, man, let's trade.
But I'm just out here trying to pump up.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Do you be yelling in the cheer company?

Speaker 6 (14:24):
I can't imagine yelling no.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
No, no, come on, I'm clapping in. I'm a cheer dad.
I don't see mun bunny. But I think one granddaughter
is a cheerleader.

Speaker 6 (14:37):
I love this for you, though, I know, especially because
knowing what you went through and like you know what
I mean, Like I can only imagine like then rolling
the first day of school, Like what was that? Like,
y'all wake up early?

Speaker 4 (14:47):
You go?

Speaker 5 (14:48):
Yeah, then rolling? So her school starts on the third.
She haven't even started, okay, so I don't know what
will be her is enough private, so yeah, she'll she'll
start in on the third, so you know, wait to
see how that go. But ideally, man, you know, it's
just a blessing, man, And I think everything I experienced

(15:11):
with her and everything that I'm learning is making me
a better me. Because you gotta also think, man, when
I'm out moving in the streets, times that I could
get in the situation, I'm double thinking it for my
kids more as opposed to just moving off emotion. And
even speaking of emotion, I had a conversation with somebody

(15:33):
being raised in the streets. You would think when people
the way we came up, somebody say something to you, you
have to check that shit.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
That's just what it is, point blank, pid.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
I'm going all out about that, and I didn't realize, bro, Honestly,
I was learning opposite. The strength is being able to
dictate when you move off emotion. You know, I mean
dictate when you move because we so used to moving
off emotion. And that's why I'm instilling a lot of
little homies like hey, just before you jump the crash
out of times I did the same thing, like you

(16:04):
gotta dictate when you move because moving off emotion it
feel good for that moment, you know what I'm saying.
And then you ever see situations when people like, damn, Bro,
I probably just waste a whole bunch of time.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
I shouldn't even did that shit.

Speaker 5 (16:17):
So now I'm at a point of really teaching people,
you know, like, nah, bro, we ain't moving off your
most now. At the end of the day, don't let
nobody dispect you, protect you, your family, everything you gotta do,
and go all out behind it. But as far as
just just saying I'm walking in the hall, somebody bump me.
Now younger me, will, Bro, what the fuck you doing this?

(16:38):
Something like the fact you got them, I'm gonna let
you now. No a nigga do that, and he go
to get dispectful and he get what he deserved. But
for the most part, it's like, man, sometimes like some
of that shit just don't be worth it.

Speaker 7 (16:49):
Bro, when you adopt this mentality tree in the past
six months, yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
I'm learning.

Speaker 5 (16:56):
Yeah, I mean I'm learning and I'm still a working
process myself. And again it's hard because again I deal
with everything head up. So this is a new challenge
for me to not.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
Really move off everything. Man.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
I used to be to the point you say something
slick on the internet, I'm trying to find IP address.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
I need to know where you at, like you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (17:18):
So now it's like sometimes I have to look at
stuff and just laugh at all and it don't be easy.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
You know what I'm saying, And I'm sure you can
attest to this. NBA.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
Just the shit that how people don't really even know
truths about situations. People can form opinions, and it's like
sometimes you just.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
You gotta be able to not be bothered.

Speaker 5 (17:41):
I think that's gonna be my my biggest once I
conker not being bothered. I think I I'm completing what
I'm supposed to do because I feel like God probably
got me some real big coming from me and he
just like, yeah, it's still and I'm letting you know
it's there, but I got a feeling you still might
fuck up. So I'm finna run you through the ring

(18:02):
until I know it's all a lot of you and
you're gonna move right.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
You know.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Do you regret any of your former crash outs?

Speaker 4 (18:09):
Oh that's a man, that's a good question.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
I'm speaking about one specifically.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
I know you do.

Speaker 5 (18:17):
I know you're doing and middle finger to you for
doing that shit right now. But I think, man, so
it's a double edged sword. I think everything that I
went through in life, good or bad, mold molds my character.
It bills me because we have to learn from experiences,

(18:38):
you know.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
And I think.

Speaker 5 (18:42):
On that part, I don't regret becoming who I am.
I don't regret learning what I learned or some of
the brick walls I hit. Now on the flip side
of that, yeah, do I feel like, man, you know what,
some shit just ain't worth it or wasn't worth it. Yeah,
I definitely feel like that. And lastly that that man,
it's just it's a frustrating situation when nobody really knows

(19:09):
in that particular situation what really went on. One, I
don't really talk, you know, I don't talk. I don't
do interviews and shit like that. So I leave the
room open for everybody to come up with their own narrative,
come up with their own opinion, because I feeling like, fuck,
I need to explain it, for it is what it is,
you know what I'm saying. But that becomes the frustrating
part because then all in the end, if and when people,

(19:32):
if I ever decide to just speak or go a
certain round, people be like, well, damn, I had this
shit mixed up the whole time.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
For me, it's too late at that point.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
But the other reason why I don't really like in
any situation I go in, I don't break my neck
to go try and control the narrative because.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
It's a blessing when you get to see how people
really feel.

Speaker 5 (19:56):
When I tell you, when I see my motherfucker starts on,
how they really for me. It's two things in mind.
One is you've been a hater and you've been feeling
this way. You just wouldn't man or woman enough to
say what the fuck? You waited to a situation happen
for you to be like, oh, yeah, man, you know
what this is. You don't really care about that situation.

(20:16):
That's how you've been feeling. You just didn't Yeah, you
just didn't want to be exposed for being a hater.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
So you know all these situations, I think in every
lesson that I deal with, it's a blessing.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
How do you move on now?

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Because you know, Houston's a big place for a small place, right,
everybody intertwines with everybody, So how do you move on?

Speaker 5 (20:37):
Because it's I deal with who deal with me and
those who deal with me man that you know, regardless
if I talk every day or not, they know if
they hear me, they can always depend on me vice versa.
You know, because a real friend and a real family,
a real homie is gonna be the one that'll be
there supporting you, even if it's you against the world

(20:59):
and those people. You have to value things like that,
you know what I'm saying, Because you have people I
could sit in your face and be like oh yeah man,
this and that, and behind your back be like yeah, man,
fuck him or whatever happened to him happened a real one.
It's behind closed doors, all in front like no this,
I'm you need anything to let me know because what

(21:20):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
Like and life is watching people.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
Cheerleading parade to tell somebody down, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I don't fuck with that like that. I feel like
when you get the what you call them me two crowds,
and I don't know if I'm using it right in
that sense. But when I don't like him, well I
don't either, So that's just all pile up and just
you know, like I don't I don't respect that, you know,
like I'd rather you be on man, if you feel someway, let.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
Let that be knowing the cancel culture.

Speaker 5 (21:50):
Yeah, well well I guess so that's why I say,
because I didn't know if that was the way to
use it.

Speaker 7 (21:54):
But yeah, you know, because it's interesting, right, Like from
the outside looking, and then when the situation went down
with you and Zero, it felt like people were taking sides,
and I was like, I'm like, damn.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
People don't like treat like that.

Speaker 6 (22:08):
I think that was the first time I felt like
that too. But I think it's because people felt like
we didn't expect to see you that way, because everybody
else like now, You're like, you're You're almost like a
kind of a superhero on Houston, you know what I mean,
you do so much good for people. So I think
that's what it was. But did that hurt you, like
when you did see people picking those other sides?

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Like, did it hurt you?

Speaker 6 (22:27):
I know you said you learned from it.

Speaker 5 (22:28):
But I think physically and mentally I'm still me. I'm
the frustration of it is like because you I'm talking people,
you you deal it on the regular.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
The thing is.

Speaker 5 (22:44):
Internet is a motherfucker, right, So you have some people
that really don't feel a certain way, but they just
don't want to be in the midst of the controversy
or seemed like they could be on the bad side
of the stick, so they'll switch up. And for me,
it's something that you need to see, you know what
I'm saying like it was a lot of a lot

(23:07):
of people that was close that that let me down.
And it was a lot of people that I didn't
expect that didn't let me down. That that's still with me,
you know, and even to this day, right, it's like
people don't understand, like I don't have no hate pertaining
to him, you know what I'm saying. Even when when
people go to do things, man, do what y'all gonna do, Like,

(23:27):
you know, because at the end of the day, you
gotta realize, I've always been my own man. When I
got banned from Radio Bra, I was left to I
was left on the island by myself before. So I'm
built for it, you know what I'm saying. Now, who's
to say you want to go through that process all
over again.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
It is what it is.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
But for me to be able to see how people
really felt, that give me fuel to the fire. You
know what I'm saying, That give me Oh that's how
y'all y'all got me fucked up. Now, if you're mad
I'm making I'm gonna make you way more mad than now,
you know, And it just see is what it is.
But again, you gotta pre shape the people that step
in for you. Like when you go to look at trade,

(24:03):
as you go look at different stuff I got, there's people.
No matter how much I may not I may feel
like everybody against me. Have to realize everybody ain't against me,
you know, just it can look one way and it
could be something totally opposite, because I get support from
my real my real pie is, my real homies, my
real family. Like they there they rocking people in town

(24:25):
and out of town because the way y'all see things,
everybody else see things too, And a lot of people
just still like, yeah, that ain't no solid shit just
for everybody to turn on him. And one thing you
gotta know in every situation is three sides to the story.
And in every video you see, it's a start to
the video. You can That's why when I see different

(24:46):
things on Internet, you never jump to go off opinion.
When you just see a piece. You can just see
a piece of me and you right now, I may
shove you into that that they may see. They may
not to see you through this milk on me. Then
told me suck you. You see what I'm saying, disrespectful.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Like you do something like that. People don't, and they
just going off what they see.

Speaker 5 (25:11):
Man, And that's why a lot of times people be
dead wrong in situations because they jump to form an
opinion and they don't really know.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
But for me, even though I could have probably.

Speaker 5 (25:23):
Cleared up a lot, I feel like, for what, man,
if you fuck with me, you're gonna fuck with me
regards because we all we all do things, we all
make mistakes, we all running the brick walls, we all
may do things people don't like. You know what I'm saying,
But at the end of the day, if you really
don't rock with me, I do need to know that
because feeling like I am the person that everybody love,

(25:44):
that may be that may make me too comfortable and
then really it's probably holding me back because God probably
ain't gonna let me step to the next level because shit,
certain people ain't supposed to be around when I get up.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
Though.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Do you hold grudges because you're cancer like me?

Speaker 4 (25:57):
I definitely do.

Speaker 5 (25:58):
But you know my biggest thing, right, I feel like
I pray every night at midnight. I feel like when
I asked the Man of above for forgiveness, I can't
do that without me letting go and That's why even
speaking on this situation, it's probably one of the first
times I even speak on It's like, I don't have
no hate for them, man.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
I tell people all the time, Man, go support the music,
do whatever.

Speaker 5 (26:21):
You're gonna do, because what people fail to realize that
was something internal. You know what I'm saying. That was
something right, that was something we had going on, you
know what I'm saying. But again, just the wait that
everybody spent in there, there's the blogs. It's just like
at that point, man, fuck it that at this point
it's everybody else opinion not knowing what's really going on

(26:43):
with me and this person.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
You know what I'm saying. So for me, it ain't
no hate, bro. I just it was what it was.
I moved on. I'm keeping it pushing, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (26:50):
At the end of the day, For all those who
thought it was gonna stop me, it ain't stop shit, bro.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Like I had a conversation, I had a conversation after.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
No.

Speaker 5 (26:58):
The thing is before we never seen each other, and
after we don't see each other, like we don't. We
don't move in the same place. We never believe it
or not, we never really see each other. I don't
think I could tell you once or twice we've seen
each other within a eight to ten year time span,
Like we don't see each other at all.

Speaker 6 (27:16):
If you were to run into him tomorrow today, if
he was a call you, would you be open to
a conversation.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
I mean we grown men. Like he entitled how you feel,
I'm entitled how I do.

Speaker 5 (27:25):
I'm gonna speak up for mine the same way I
would hope you speak up for hisself. So again I'm
telling you, it ain't no hate, no mine. In I
went through what I went through, I took it on
the chin and I kept it moving, you know, Like
it's not like we can't be in the same room.
I'm gonna be tripping soon as I see him. Like
I ain't really on that type of time.

Speaker 4 (27:42):
You know.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
I'm a man that is going to always stand to
feel myself and staying on business on what I believe.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
But I'm not here looking for that like I got.

Speaker 5 (27:51):
You gotta realize I deal with real life situation instead
of living for the internet like everybody else. Like I'm
trying to figure out what's gonna be the next move
with my kids, what's the next move with helping somebody
else that I'm doing, or helping these families, or helping
some of the young homies out the hood, or helping
someone music and business. So it's like I'm not my
life don't revolve around it every day.

Speaker 7 (28:12):
And for the people who was hating on you, right,
like the people that you saw hating on you during
this decision, you know, if you was if he was
a hurricane, and I've already done I've been. You know,
it's crazy, I've already done it.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
So and one of my little partner's right, shout ouskeek,
my partner, he jumped on the internet right when the hurricane. Yeah,
all y'all hating trade on y'all, Carl.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
But those who know me and really know me, they
know it. I'm never gonna leave nobody hanging.

Speaker 5 (28:46):
And it's a lot of people that I ended up helping,
and if I didn't help them, I ended up probably
helping one of their relatives too.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
Well.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
Some people respectfully came to me like, man, you know
what I was wrong, bro put the opinion and at
the end of the day, I probably shouldn't have that,
And you know, you can appreciate apologies like that.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
But yeah, you definitely. I definitely they asked need help,
they asked steal call.

Speaker 6 (29:07):
You know what I'm saying is that energy still the
same for the people who had a lot to say.
When you were going through all your back and forth
with your daughter's mom online, people were picking sides there.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
I think in every situation, you can't unless I'm putting
them all in the bucket or barrow, is gonna like you.
And I may have not even seen some of the
stuff that they've done, so I think, honestly, man, everybody
ain't built to like you. You know, everybody and not
built to like you. They're not gonna be in your corner.
So it's on you if you want to harp or

(29:38):
dwell on it, if you just want to keep it pushing.
You know, a lot of us put value in people
that don't fuck with us and being an overlook the
people that really do. So it's like I'm just out
of space and now I'm trying to use my energy
the right way. You know, I'm gonna rock with those
who really rock with me and those who don't see
what it is. I ain't those who don't rock with me.
I ain't even mad at you you end up looking

(30:01):
crazy and you know.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
How did how did the death of Beat King impact
the city of Houston?

Speaker 5 (30:08):
I definitely think that was a a It was a
sad situation. It was an unbelievable situation because you know,
for us, we used to death, you know, and sometimes
you'll see something on in that and you'll be like, nah,
hell nah that you know, but I think that was
one of them situations that it wasn't expected. And just

(30:32):
thinking back me and we really didn't talk much at all.
But you can't deny the the the presence he had
when it came to the club, like he had a tag.
When he had the tag, you'll know he had something
to do with it, So you couldn't. You couldn't deny
what he brought. And he stayed in his own lane

(30:54):
because he wasn't he wasn't trying to make street music,
he wasn't trying to do the backpack.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
He wouldn't. He just stayed on him. Man.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
You know, anybody who stayed doing them and stay in
their own lane, you gotta respect it because they didn't
all today didn't shift. They did what they felt was
best for them. So you know, I felt like there's
definitely something that's that touched the city. I mean, anybody,
i'mna be honest. Any fallen soldiers we had from the

(31:22):
city of Houston musically always impact the city because Houston
and Texas alone really support they artist.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
So, you know, a lot of deaths people take it personal,
you know.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yeah, how did you and j koget so close?

Speaker 4 (31:36):
Man?

Speaker 5 (31:37):
We've always man, we've always been close since since younger man.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
And it's crazy.

Speaker 5 (31:45):
That's why looking at the song that he did trade
the Truth and the Beasy like you could look at
I ain't have a bed at that time. I was
you know what I'm saying. But it happened right after
I got shot. And I remember he called me.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
So that was like twenty twelve.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
Yeah, yeah, so, but I'm saying we was cool way
before then. But I'm saying, right after I got shot,
he called me and he was just like, man, bro,
like you got the potential of doing so much shit
and so many people fuck with you, like I need to.
I feel like I want to just take you with
me to show you something different.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
You know.

Speaker 5 (32:21):
Basically, they inspire me and show me what I can
what I'm capable of doing, and what I can, and
he ended up taking me well and we went to Beza.
That was my first time ever seeing festivals. I think
we did wireless and stuff like that, you know, shit
that I haven't seen, you know, just to show a
whole different world and even past that situation of that

(32:44):
truth be told. People don't know when when I get
ready to put our albums. If you catch me going
for a long time and I ain't putting nothing out,
he's probably the reason I ended up putting it out,
because we'll sit on the phone for hours going back
and forth, you know, debating, and he'll he'll be like, yeah,
you worried about if you're gonna sell there's amount of records.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
Are you worried about.

Speaker 5 (33:05):
How no labels are signed because of the radio stuff?
When at the end of the day, bro, just put
it out. If you put it out, it don't matter
if you get twenty or thirty fans. Guess what, you
put that out, you get thirty fans, you put this out,
you gain another fifty. It might be a way longer process,
but not doing nothing, You're not gaining nothing. So you like,
you gotta take you gotta take some risks regards of

(33:26):
how it look because at the end of the day, mentally,
were so stuck and worried about how people gonna look
at us, how people are gonna laugh at us when
we do stuff, or if we're gonna fail or succeed.
And I think when you get to a point where
you not necessarily can about that, then you can kind
of enjoy.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
It, you know, Like that's what.

Speaker 5 (33:46):
It pissed me off when you see And I don't
like even speaking on that because I hate speaking on
other situations. But when Cole said what he said on stage,
I was there, Yeah, And the thing is, the first
thing everybody was saying was, oh man, he apologized and
he's scared he doing It's like for me, it pissed

(34:07):
me off, which he honestly, and his mind is you know,
I don't want y'all speaking of like I'm fine with that,
and his mind is.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
One.

Speaker 5 (34:16):
We all's cool and we still are, you know what
I'm saying. But on the flip side, like that, ain't
that ain't his energy? Like he was focused on his
album like it and these things I may supposed to say,
maybe not, Like if if you look at his tape
that came out the last song was supposed to be
trade the Truth and the besil. So that's why at
the end when I say even if we fall off,

(34:38):
we don't, we don't fall off. That was the outro,
but the pre intro for his new album to fall off.
But if you pay attention to the project, they end
up having the record where he went back at him
and it just threw everything off. And I think, honestly
within the spear, I salute him because he is a
man like I'm not supposed to be keyed up by y'all.

(35:01):
And at the end of the day, he got on
that stage and he said it genuinely like that ain't
my energy. Like, bro, I don't feel good about that
because that's not like he wasn't offended by the ship
that was said. It was more keyed up by everybody
making them go there. Now that you could feel anything disrecord,
that shit was whack. Don't do nothing whack like that

(35:23):
was that was like, come on, I ain't gonna say it,
but you know, yay, you must be good. I don't
think it was, but what I will say is, yeah,
you can tell that he that wasn't the energy he
was on. And I think honestly man as just us
as a whole. You gotta respect the ones that's gonna
step out on their own and not worry about how

(35:44):
people looking at you, you know what I'm saying them
the ones you gotta understand that is more authentic because
a lot of people, the Internet or opinions of other
people can force you to do some ship that you
really don't want to.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Do, you know, think with his fans.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
But then a couple months later, everybody was like Cole
was right. Now every time was right.

Speaker 6 (36:05):
I know you had been asked about it and you
said and they worded it like, oh, he ducked like
or he like tried to dodge the beef for whatever
he was like, he wasn't ducking from anything. It was
just something he decided to do. After looking at everything
that played out and kind of where Drake lies down, like,
are you happy that he made that decision or do
you feel like, to be.

Speaker 5 (36:25):
Honest and just being transparent with you, I don't give
a damn about the beef part. That ain't my always
been a cat to stay in my own lane. Now,
if you ask do I feel good about that situation,
I'm gonna say yes, only because Bro did what he
felt he needed to do and that made him feel comfortable,

(36:46):
and that got him his peace of mind to get
back focused on working on his album and focusing on
his kids.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
So that part, I'm definitely happy about it, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
The only thing.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
The only thing I didn't like is I think Cold
and Cole fans for for the last couple of years
to prove how nice Cold is and how busy Cold is,
and they had so many different complaints, Oh, Cole does
his own beats, he should do different beats, and Cole
should do more guest appearances, and I just felt like
he was doing that and he was shooting down everybody
that he was doing songs with, and it was just

(37:16):
it was glad to hear Cold the way I heard
him when growing up as a kid, his mixtape Cold.
And then I just felt like that whole situation just kind.

Speaker 7 (37:23):
Of paused that that man to me, because you can't
take away with a person who was already doing no no,
but we haven't.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Seen Cold in a minute, back off a little bit. Yeah,
he felt back when I heard that.

Speaker 7 (37:32):
Brother say he hadn't slept good. He was sleeping good.
For ten years and that was the first time in
ten years he didn't sleep good. That's all you need
to tell me.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Because he gets busy and a lot of times people
don't know.

Speaker 5 (37:43):
What I will say is I'm not We ain't gonna
go in depth, but just don't get it fucked up.
His album coming and when you and when the album
comes is probably gonna shock a lot of people. So
I remember what I tell you all the time, a
lot of people form opinions on things they don't fully
know situation.

Speaker 4 (38:03):
You know, are you all right? No?

Speaker 5 (38:06):
No, no, I was out you know hey, but for
its too that you never know what bro may do,
you know, And then you know what I will do
is I always salute him. You know, we did the
trade the Truth and the Bees and remix that's out
now and then for trade that you know, he literally
flew in on the jet to ride bikes with me

(38:27):
through Houston for the Welcome to Houston with Cut City
Cruisers and jumped back on.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
The JIT an hour and a half later after we
did bikes and came back.

Speaker 5 (38:36):
You know what I'm saying, like, that's my real brother,
you know, and I salute him, man, I stand behind
him a thousand percent.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Did you audition for Bad Boys for?

Speaker 5 (38:45):
Or they just called you Martin? You know Martin and
my brother, so you know my my cartoons that always do.
I have a partnership with Martin, so you know, of
course we were.

Speaker 6 (38:56):
We were that's for the one tray on TV that's
a different cartoon which I.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
Was before him. So we were getting ready to.

Speaker 5 (39:06):
To put it out man, and we had it's crazy
like I can't go in depth, but just we had
big writers, different.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
Stuff with us.

Speaker 5 (39:13):
Fucking COVID hit so that's it missed up any and
everything possible.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
So then after COVID we was back on it.

Speaker 5 (39:24):
Then the writers and the actor strike came, so it
was just like yeah, so in the midst of that's
still going, Martin called me and it was actually the
last day or two days that they was filming Bad
Boys for and ended up having me come out and
get in it. And now that's a new process of

(39:46):
me understanding well with the major movies because they have
so many different verdes. And then they had to cut
it down to where it's crazy I'm in the trailer,
but in the movie. They ended up cutting the movie down,
so they took some of the scenes out, which I
don't know if you know when they come out to
streaming services, if it if it goes back in or
what it is. But for me, it was just a

(40:08):
dope experience and ship that trader see across the world.
You see me all in it. You know what I'm saying.
So and Martin, Martin, my brother, his whole his whole
family is my family, man. They real support of everything
I go through, good or bad.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Hmm, Well, let's get into a joint off that what
you want to hear.

Speaker 4 (40:27):
Play Fires, that's definitely uh where we're at.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
You gotta do the dance.

Speaker 4 (40:36):
I wouldn't know how to dance a lot, man.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Let's get into it right now. It's fires feature a
little YACHTI, It's traded truth.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, Wake that ass up
in the morning.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
The Breakfast Club.

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