INTERVIEW: Tyrese Clears The Air With DJ Envy, Talks Beautiful Pain, New '1992' Film, Ex Wife + More
August 20, 2024 • 56 mins
The Breakfast Club sits down with Tyrese to discuss his latest project 'Beautiful Pain,' the new '1992' film, and clears up rumors about his personal life, including his relationship with his ex-wife. Plus he clears the air with DJ Envy. Listen for more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The Breakfast Club Morning, Everybody's dj en V just hilarious charlamage,
the guy we are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Laura l Rossa is holding it downes. It's on maternity
leave and we.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Got a special guest in the building. Good brother, Tyre Gibbs.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Tye is here.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Good morning something.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
What's funny now, man? Other than your great beard, I'm
letting it grow were grown? What's funny? Bopa?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I bet you won't let your face your head growing.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
You're fucking right, fucking right, how.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Are you, sir?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Not only am I not gonna let him grow in,
but I definitely tried to get into my implant game
and it didn't. You know, it landed, but it didn't
landed for the video, didn't land for the Spangled banner.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
But we talked about with a Wildflower.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah, I shot the video. It wasn't even a video.
It's it's a short film called Wildflower, dedicated to my
mother Rest in Peace, produced by the legend David Foster
and uh my producer Brad them Damn Hodge. And even
though everyone knows the song Wildflower, it was it was
(01:07):
David Foster's group it's called Skylark from fifty years ago
and they released Wildflower. These these are Canadians that are
from Canada singing R and B and then the the
way that we know about the song is when New
Birth did it right. So, but David Foster has never
gotten back in the studio to do any other remake
(01:28):
of Wildflower until now. So I'm very honored that he
did this on behalf of my mom and I'm very grateful.
And it just it just actually came out today. Man.
So I'm like, I'm always emotional. I'm any emotional wreck
just knowing that my mama song came out today.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
So what made you put the outphone on? Because that
was my I'm gonna ShW you my favorite video.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Marvin Gay.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Right, I was, well, I'm talking about the.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Yeah, we talked about that moment up here.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Of course, Charlemagne. Charlemagne is a control Thank you.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I'm like this this is me getting ready for bed.
This was fantastic. Look at my caption. How I feel
getting ready for bed every night. That's me.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
See that you know your con fellas, I have to go.
I just want to stay away, disrespect conversation. I was
about to say he about to throw one at me.
Go ahead and conversation before on off, and you know
we we spoke like man. But I have to go.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
But I don't want him to feel disrespectful that I'm leaving.
I think he has a conversation.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
What I think it is too. I told you I
got to go before.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Can y'all have one interview with y'all don't disrespect each other?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Why envy? Yes, sir, I love you. What part of
your car show at this point, hongng, how many years
you've been doing it? Six years? Six years? What part
of your car show requires you to be there physically
unloading cars yourself? Well, it's the thing, I tell you
because I do car shows too, but Runner, I've neverloaded.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
They're actually pulling up this weekend. But the thing is
is when Cardi B and Offset give me their car,
I don't let anybody touch their car but me because
if something happens, and that happened before we push your
tea push the t game is ferrari.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I let somebody pull it off the thing and he crashed,
you see him?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
So now for my situation, when anybody comes and loading
it and loading is actually at nine thirty I'm supposed
to be there. I personally take their cars off. So
next time I come to Atlanta and I take your car,
I'm gonna put you know that Envy will personally take
care okay. Well if I if, I would be okay.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
And I feel disrespected about Envy leaving because it said
this interview is pretty important. Everybody want to see us,
but they definitely tuned in right now for my bage.
Fella right, I just want you to say these words,
Envy before you leave. Boy, Beautiful Pain is the most
important R and B album in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I haven't heard yet. You got a point.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
That's cool. I want to believe I sent him at
least a couple of pieces, and you did. You got
them to.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Just be wondering why they're taking so long, like you've
been sitting on this album for a while.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
It's called being independent.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
It's called money up, money down, being grown, and dealing
with seven lawsuits getting in the way of all kinds
of ship that I wanted to do. But we're here
now and now Envy is leaving.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
We just seen Daniel in the hall y'all talking about
Teddy Pendergrass. That's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Bumper mother, that's crazy hurting them for that. He had
that motherfucker in the I cloud.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Talking last night and he said, he said, man might
come on the tail and Lee.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
Wait, hold on, wight on, hold on, I must, I
must say that the first part is bullshit, the second
part is true.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Wait.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I said, this is what I said, and I had
I announced. I ain't saying with the compart. This is
this nigga put it in on. This is what I
did say. I said, hey, man, I might have to
pull up on the tail end of the Lee Daniels
interview because y'all gonna be interviewing him. Right before I
heard what I said, I said, Paul, I said, hold on,
(05:47):
he don't give a nigga, let's move on. I thought
you didn't have no time do so you want to
stay here for the gay conversation. You want to stay here.
So so all of a sudden, CARDI B Is loaded.
I gotta don't matter because you don't want to hear
details off the tail end on. I heard you talking
(06:07):
about movie. Nobody else was there.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
That's true, and you were you were talking about you.
You were saying, make sure that you know you you
you really want to do that movie, So to break
that down, is that gonna happen?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
So, So what I explained to him was Lee Daniels
was born and raised in Philly. All right, he was
here with arjor Day, my fellow Capricorn. And Lee has
a specific commitment to telling stories from the legends and
icons from the ground to Philadelphia. All Right, I'm not
gonna be disparaging because we ain't finna get no more
(06:40):
calls about Oh he said this about truth be told. Uh,
there was a lawsuit filed and I did not win
the lawsuit, or not not win. I did not have
the lawsuit to work in my favor because I've been
on this journey to do Teddy Pendergrass for literally fourteen years,
(07:01):
long before Teddy married his current widow. Right, And again,
I have still respect for her. But when you're doing
a film with someone who does not have any experience,
respectfully in Hollywood, they don't know the process of writing
and rewriting and trying to figure out like how do
you tell the best story? You cannot do a Teddy
(07:21):
Pendergrass movie that has him quadriplegic for the whole movie
because nobody's gonna watch that movie. The movie was never
cradle to the grave, meaning from the moment he was
born to the moment he passed. And his wife, who
is incredible. I've seen her passion and love for this man,
which is why I don't want to be disrespectful.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
But.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
She was in his life, you know, the last four
years of his life, and the movie that myself and
Lee Daniels wanted to tell did not include that piece
of life that they had together. It was from this
period to that period, and that's the movie and the
story that we wanted to tell. And I don't think
anybody would would like you know as much as I
(08:05):
know and want to do as an actor. When Lee
Daniels in the driver's seat, as a genius that he
is as a filmmaker, he is, even I knew how
to shut the fuck up and get out the way, absolutely,
Like I was not involved in the day to day
of the script, in the process. Because you don't want
to piss Lee off for making him feel like you're
micro managing the process. Nigga, am I here to do
what I'm here to do? You show up and you
(08:27):
ready to do teddy? Okay? So at the end of
the day, I didn't think it was fair, and it
all fell apart. Warner Brothers, Lee, Daniels, Tyres. This man
told me, you're the only person in the world that
could ever play me.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
So what hey told you that person?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
There's nobody else on this on this earth that I
would ever trust that. He said, you know, the reason
why you're gonna play me is because you never wanted
to be me. I can't stand motherfuckers out here trying
to copy me. You've sing your ass off and you've
been doing you this whole time, and I want you
and I know you the only one that could tell
the story, so as you could imagine if something or
(09:07):
anybody's getting in the way of that. And we got
to lead Daniels from Philly Borne to raise and all
that that. So so that's that's what you just heard.
I basically just said the Lee, Ah in Jesus' name,
we're still gonna make this movie. They said, don't let
it go. Don't let it go. And I'm gonna tell
you right now that there is no other version of
(09:28):
the Teddy Pendergrass package is better than this package. So
I may have sued and lost the law suit.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Would you think Teddy would have wanted you to sue
his widow? Though?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I think I think the Teddy Pendergrass that I that
I know and got to know, Teddy Pendergrass is not
interested in anything or anybody that would getting the way
of progress. And I would he say sue. No, nobody
would ever say, hey, man, if she getting away sewer,
that's not what that man said me. What I will
(10:01):
say is I've been around. I've heard him say things
about people that you would never ever think he feels
this or feels that about. And I never repeat it
because that's who my heart is. But I will say,
Teddy don't fuck with who Teddy don't funk with, And
I'm aware of who he does and who he don't.
They can paint whatever picture they want, but Teddy is
(10:21):
not interested in anything or anybody getting the way of
his story being told Teddy didn't him. I'm not saying
that at all. Those are not my words. That's that
Charlemagne trying to do that.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
People would it like that an envy is.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
Slipping out of here? All right, we're gonna hug I
love you, There you go. That's what I like to
see that's what I like to see. That's what I
like this, that's what I like to see.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
You know what, I'm gonna tell you what's funked up.
I'm gonna tell you what's funked up. If that was
Acon's car, you wouldn't be leaving there. His life scanning
Niggas stick.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Together headline looked like NVBIT, But listen. She also said
she was a poor businessman.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Poor businessman. That's fine, that's fine. Everybody's entitled to their opinion.
I want to believe that securing a deal with Warner Brothers,
securing Lee Daniels developing an actual relationship with her late
great husband, that says everything about who I am as
a business man, because I produce results. We had the
(11:28):
biggest press release ever. At the end of the day,
she's gonna see this interview, and I just want her
to know that, in my mind, I made a commitment
to your husband. I made a commitment to his story,
his journey, and Lee Daniels is still ready to go,
and Warner Brothers is still ready to go. I'm just
gonna hope and pray that somebody can make the phone
(11:48):
call to say that there is no better Teddy Pendergrass
package than Tyree's Lee Daniels and Warner Brothers. That's it.
Speaker 8 (11:57):
But so if somebody doesn't make that phone call and
it happened right in a perfect world, like, how do
y'all move forward?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
We already got the script done?
Speaker 8 (12:04):
Not the script, but I mean, like just as people
and like now you have all this in the media,
the lawsuit or whatever.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
It's like, did you just see what happened with me
and Envy?
Speaker 5 (12:12):
So y'all gonna sit down to have a conversation.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
You've seen what just happened with me and Envy. Yeah,
we're supposed to be fucking bare knuckle.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Right here, cracking all right, m't doing.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
That, but we we said we wasn't doing and me
and Charlemagne said, we're not doing that. Me and Envy said,
we're not doing that. So if everybody tuning in there
ready for war, where's the war? Right? We've grown ass men,
and guess what we all felt and feel and went
about all of this shit the way we did. There's actions,
there's reactions that went to whatever level. But I'm a
(12:41):
grown ass man, and at the end of the day,
he is too, and that man is too so I
really believe in Jesus' name. First of all. First of all,
I'll say this, not despite anybody. We can't make Teddy
Pendergrass about any of us. His story his story. It's
history and it belongs to the world. And there's nobody
(13:04):
else in the world that could do that but me.
Y'all seeing the beard.
Speaker 8 (13:10):
And why hold it onto the why did it go
into the star spangled banner situation?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I'll tell you because the guy. First of all, shout
out to my barber. I literally flew in man from Texas.
We found him a year ago online and his process
takes about five hours. And I did not want to
do anything from Hollywood because first of all, there's a
lot of white people are the makeup artists, and they
(13:34):
don't even know nothing about this black texture. So that's
why you got motherfuckers out here looking real crazy when
they put on fake beards and movies or whatever. First
of all, I'm an actor, and if anybody can get
away with putting on prosthetics and fake this and fake that,
it would be me that when you go and do
all that fake shit in real life, we got to
ask a real idea of question. But I have never
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had facial hairds like that in my life. I got
a hold of what I believe is the best person
that could do that shit to make it look real
and believable. And I literally went full on for my
Wildflower not a video or a short film, and it
was casted by Robbie Reid, who did levels of like
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Malcolm X, like this is a real movie. It would
be disrespectful the call of the music video, and so
I went all out. Okay, and my whole move, my
whole album, Beautiful Pain is like rumor has it the
year twenty twenty four is coming, I've been in the
year nineteen sixty eight for the last almost four years.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
You said twenty twenty four is coming.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Rumor has it that we're still going to be alive
in twenty twenty four. I have been in the year
nineteen sixty eight working on this Beautiful Pain album. Because
when I was working on my album, there was no
such thing as Luther Vanros featuring Curtis Blow. There was
no such thing as Marvin Gaye feature and run DMC
was never. I want to tell you, baby, the chance
(15:05):
is I've been going through I've been working on teams
chances I've been going through the team. There was no
such thinking. Okay, grown ass man with just R and
B records that did not feature hip hop. So that's
what I did. I got twenty songs they live and
there was nothing about what I did in my Wildflower
(15:27):
video that had anything to do with me looking like
Jody baby Boy, Roaman Pierce, none of them niggas. I
had to become the person that I envisioned myself becoming
the motherfucking bail bottom shoe, her pants and them platform shoes.
That was this stick worstship I've ever experienced in my life.
I got.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
I got a lover of the Adida suit with the
lofers the what worse than your Adida suit?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yes, yes, yes that was Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
That was uncomfortable where it was uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Listen, man, I ain't never wore no ship like that
in my life. Okay, full beard, full head of hair.
I wore a bonnet to go to sleep. My girl
gave me a bonnet, Okay, I had. I woke up
with a headache, damn because of the bonnet. Whatever that
ball that you you know, because I don't wear Wayne casts.
None of that ship nigga that bought that bonnet the
(16:20):
string tight. I woke up. I was like, yo, man,
I don't have I have no motherfucking idea. How y'all
niggas ain't no, ain't no way in hell anybody should
be committing the hair and waking up with I was
on fire. Yeah, So anyway, anyway, well, well it was
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it was promo in my mind because I'm I'm pretty
methodical with my ship when when I can, they don't
always land, but it lands.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Why didn't think it was? It was like extra from
Good Time?
Speaker 8 (16:53):
It was because he was singing that it was the
way that that's.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
What he thought, like one of Rollo's friends or.
Speaker 8 (16:59):
Something from So you like it didn't land? Like you,
you keep saying that, what's up? You keep saying that
that it didn't land? What didn't land?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Like?
Speaker 5 (17:05):
What are you referring to? Are you talking about? When
you were singing and start.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
When I was singing the national anthem and landed. But
I was saying that not everything that I'm very methodic,
I'm a capricorn. So we think and we'd strategize and
we calculate, and I was saying that not everything that
we calculate will always land. But everything about what I
did landed right. So I said, to these white people
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at the rams, I said, to the to the people
at at at even the movie studio, I said, let
me tell you something. There is no version of me
doing the national anthem looking like Tyree, singing like Tyree's,
wearing regular Tyree's clothing that's going to get as much
traction and attention as this. And the outfit that I
wore is the output that I wore in the entire
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music video or short film from Wildflow, is it?
Speaker 5 (17:56):
No, I didn't see I didn't see Wildflower.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
But I know he tried to come at me about
the ship. He's like, you're coming up here in that
beard for the interview, right, I said.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
I was really confused all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Of course, anybody I was confused. Everybody. Were they thinking
that I'm having another mental health breakdown on live television. Okay,
this is not a what more do you want from me?
Part two? It ain't never coming.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
And you didn't sound bad. I was like, well, he
don't sound bad singing. Now, let's not do that like
you know.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Let me let me make another connection for the young niggas,
who who didn't live before Twitter was born. Uh, The
Great Western Forum had a legend by the name of
Marvin Gaye who sung one of the most legendary national
anthems ever at a Laker game. Okay, and that actual
physical property. Okay, let me give it to y'all. Y'all
(18:49):
still kind of slow, so let me get y'all to
catch up to me. Okay, here we go. The Great
Western Forum is in Inglewood.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Right here, right, oh, geographical right now?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Okay, I got it because because these kids don't know
what the fuck is going on Great Western Form. It's
right here. The same exact parking lot is where the
Sofi arena is located. I showed up in a red
Beanie and everything about my approach to the anthem and
the year that I've been living in Donnie Hathaway, Marvin Gaye,
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Teddy Pendergrass, Stevie wonder Motown. This red Beanie was holding
hands with this red Beanie at the Gray Western Form
as I sung the national anthem on top of live
congos in an arena that just got built a couple
of years ago called the Sofi and the same exact
property holding hands. So Marvin did it? I did a
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music video. This man said, it's gonna take four hours
to take all that nappy shit off your face. I said,
I don't have time. We left the set of Wildflower
and went straight to the Anthem because these white people
want to be there by ten thirty to rehearse. Like fuck,
I don't rehearse. I need sleep. But if y'all want
me to rehearse, i gotta show up in full costume
(20:03):
because I'm just leaving the set. So when Wildflower drops,
I think for all the people that's laughing, joking or
just asking questions, they're gonna understand.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
It wasn't given. It was given like Lamar Standford got
a date. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (20:16):
You know, but people picked up the Marvin because of
the I think it was like the just the way
you sung it, people.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Picked it up.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Look at this go ahead, you did it.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
But I really I didn't know what yo.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Listen, you did it, You did it, You did that.
This nigga here he gonna.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
I'm trying to move on, keep going back.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
I was Raised'll know that doing comedy.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Man.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Now that I'm saying here, I'm like, you kind of
you knew what you was doing, like.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
Can you look a little not trod in a bad way,
but like you knew that it was gonna get the
people going, and you didn't have a choice, so you
just made to do what you had to make.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Do at the time.
Speaker 8 (20:55):
It's like, hene, it's a different feeling now because before
I'm like, this.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
Is not going on.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Well, listen, y'all, all jokes aside. Wildflower is available worldwide.
It just went live on all the streaming platforms. And
you already know this song. You love this song. We
grew up on this song. I would have never heard
this song a day of my life. Let me tell
y'all something. Imagine me, little boy. Long before I ever
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knew I could sing, my mama was an alcoholic twenty
seven years May God rest her soul. She died two
years ago, twenty twenty two. Of all days, she give
birth to an R and B singer, and she dies
on Valentine's Day. Okay, two girls, two boys, I'm the
last one. I'm the baby boy officially, So imagine, long
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before I ever knew I could hold a note, As
my mama is drinking talking about she ain't just like sipping.
My mama was full on right. The soundtrack that helped
her to drink even more was R and B soul music.
I don't really know no other version of R and B,
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like I don't know nothing about Little Taytay, Little Rayleay, look,
Little Say Say Listen, they will never be David Foster
and Little Tate in the same sentence, you understand me.
So y'all might be winning the popularity contest because you
know record labels these days, y'all niggas is corny, okay, corny?
Hey man, you know what's the data? What's the streaming numbers?
(22:31):
What's the YouTube view? Goofy from radio the same way
with goofy. If y'all motherfuckers think I'm at any point,
I'm forty five years old. Let me tell yall something.
Hear me, cameras is rolling right. What's your name?
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (22:46):
You look like envy nigga, don't like I'm just letting.
I'm I'm triggered.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Looking at.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Hold on, hold up, listen, listen, So listen, I'm forty
five years old. What's your name? Says again? And how
old are you? If you're mind you're thirty two? Let
me tell you something. I'm forty five years old. My
voice is deep. This nigga got gray facial hair as
a wife at home family. If I ever look out
in the audience and see a sixteen year old with
purple hair and black fingernails uploading a TikTok video on
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my motherfucking audience, I would literally get him removed.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Why all that?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Why what if you appreciate I'm grown, but just I'm
trying to I'm trying to make go ahead. I'm trying
to make y'all understand that us, as grown men and
grown women, we are losing sight of the reality of
what this se is because we are here, thirsty and
(23:46):
desperate trying to appeal to kids.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
I'm not against that.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
So so I don't mean that literally. That's stupid. I
speak in antics.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
I'm starting to learn you, okay.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I'm just letting and you know there is nothing about
that that any record label will ever be able to
convince me that if you don't check off these boxes
and do this and do that, then we don't really
know if we need to sign or do or listen.
Goofy ass record label executives, especially you executives that are
(24:22):
lucky to still have a job after you done worked
for fifteen goddamn record labels and don't even understand how
you still own. Go ahead and sign Little Ta Tay
Little jj litt Saysei, I'm a grown ass man. I
sell out arenas. I know what the other side of
two hundred thousand dollars a night look like. And I'm
(24:44):
not going nowhere. So do your data, do your research,
and go ahead and sign the niggas that went into
YouTube war. I'm a grown ass man. I don't want
none of you young niggas in my audience anyway. As
a matter of fact, my album is so grown. I'm
about to put out an album that's gonna help make
your baby sister, your baby brother's coming nigga because of me.
(25:10):
I'm post pandemic in a big jacket. Hmm. Grown Okay,
I'm selling out, and your mama gonna be in the
audience when she puts your ass asleep. Ain't gonna leave
you at home with a nanny.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Now, I don't disagree with then you said, but what
if because you are an international movie star.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
As well, I got it. Wh ain't talking about that.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
About these youngins who might see faster ferience.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
And they see the fast and then they.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Say, oh, he does music too, So then they go
in there and listen to the music and they're like,
I like this.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
They are welcome. What I'm saying to you is.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
You're not catered to the.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Forty five years old.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Get you.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I go to clubs that say twenty one and over.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
What the fuck?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Who is you go to? Slave nigga? Check your motherfucker ass.
Hey nigga, listen, hey, listen. Let me tell you something.
When you wake up in the morning, little young nigga,
you gonna have your homework, pend on your goddamn back
(26:16):
and a bus is pulling up. I'm grown, cuz fuck
out here, Okay, So I just want to make it plain. Yes,
I think I did. Listen, R and B, all of
the R and B singers out here, we know what
versus did for all of our careers. Hear me. All
(26:37):
your record labels can't stand you, motherfuckers. I love you
because you're doing what you gotta do. You gotta pivot
right when things change, things chang. I'm not bitter and
I'm not mad. Y'all losing sight. I've been I've been
out of a deal over two years, and I just
signed my deal, and the deal was for three million.
Oh so you are signed to a media It just
(26:58):
happened last week, CMG. And don't start calling them what No, No,
I'm not even gonna tell you. Don't start calling them either,
because they're not gonna give you my number, motherfucker. They're
gonna give you two hundred and look at your data.
(27:20):
Get out my goddamn beniness. Anyway, I want to make
it plain. It's distribution, it's everything. It's it's a full
on joint venture partnership. I'm signing artists, I'm doing publishing deals.
It's a whole thing. They didn't say here it's Votron
Records that has been homeless until now because these niggas
(27:41):
is pulling out the YouTube views. And they said litrd
Tata mattered in a fucking legend named Tyresee goofy ass niggas.
I'm right here. Wildflower will be number one for forty
weeks and Little Tate and David Foster will never be
in the same sentence. How does that make you feel?
(28:02):
We are exhausted with auto tune. We are exhausted with
motherfuckers out here who are not singing, who's not coming
from the soul. If y'all want us to think and
believe that Charlemagne the God is not going home to
his beautiful wife and his family. If y'all want us
to believe that all these women out here selling out
(28:24):
arenas talking about fuck you, I don't need you, I'm independent,
I could do bad by myself. If you think they're
not going home to a husband, you are the most
confused generation period. Y'all sing what happened with Siarra when
she released that song, and they like, I'm so confused,
(28:45):
and that's no disrespect to her. We all understand that
the record labels. It's like, if you, as a female artist,
want to be Scissa, Somma Walker, Iiko or this or
that and all these different women out here who keep
going and bashing men in the songs Jazmine Sullivan, Mary J. Blige,
If you want to sell out arenas, they not buying
(29:07):
love right now. They don't want to hear about how
much you love your husband that you're actually going home to.
These women ain't going home by theirself. Okay, I bust
the windows out your car, and after I bust the
windows out his car, I'm going home because I love you,
and I hate that we even took shit to that level.
That's what my eye missed. Now listen, I would love
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to take up the rest of his interview time and
talk about my ex, but I'm not gonna do that.
Don't just listen to know what I'm saying. I love you.
I would love to take up the rest of his
interview time from going at my ex so that y'all
can understand what motivated Beautiful Pain, but I'm not going
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to do that. I got plenty of interviews out there
with the whole world here in the details of my
heart about how I am still trying to figure out who,
what and how this all happened. But I'm also gonna
say to y'all that this album, including my new relationship,
has helped me to discover the beauty in my pain.
(30:12):
That's why the album is called Beautiful Pain. Twenty songs total,
It's all live Lenny Kravitz, Kenny g El, DeBarge, Kim Barell,
October London. We got a song on this album called
Bedroom Bully. Let me tell you something. I'm pregnant right now.
(30:38):
I knew it. I tell you boy, Charlamagne first Lady
at the House ask yourself some real questions about the
things your husband is into. I mean, we can't let
five minutes go by without some type of gays flying.
I just goddamn pause. That was my full jus. Gay
(31:01):
juice is the topic of whatever the fuck he keep
hurling out. A you either straight at your gay, ain't nobody,
don't be in my comments, mother, but you could be
whatever version of the gay you want. If you either
straight at your gay, that's it. I'm grown.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I didn't want to ask.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
You one question though, Yes, beautiful thing. We know what
the album is about. When you see things, and I
don't want you to talk about your Acause'm just this
is a music question. Yes, when your ex does go
out there and continue to say things, does it make
you go to the studio.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
And rewrite, write more? What does it do? Because I
know that's what I know, that's how you've been channeling
all that.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
None of the things that she has been saying. If
I'm being honest, it's irritating, Okay, it's annoying. I don't
know who this person is. I wish I did. None
of her friends know who she is. I don't know
who she is, and I think we've already addressed that
and unpacked that. What I will say is I didn't
really need any other motivator because if you were to
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put on some three D glasses, I'm sitting here in
the bay's jacket and I'm still on fire about the
confusion in and around my entire thing, crashing and burning. Now,
pride and ego is supposed to say, you look good,
you got money, you dry this, you live in that,
your square footage is that you got a new love.
So you know, here's the other narrative that that women
(32:24):
I love, y'all, but it's it's amazing to me. Does
that mean Jasmine Sullivan still want to be with her
ex because she released the song talk about Busts and
Windows out of Car? Does Mary J. Blige want to
get back with Ken Do because she has done a
bunch of interviews and released a bunch of songs venting
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and talking and expressing her thoughts, feelings and sentiment about
a marriage that ultimately didn't work. Because it is fucked
up for y'all to keep telling me that I want,
I lust, I desire, I want. I have not talked
to this woman. I have not secretly done a lunch
at dinner. If she were to post screenshots right now
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of her phone since she left me, there is not
one fucking text message that says I'll do it now.
There was some begging and pleading and trying to understand
when we first broke up, but the moment that that
divorce paperwork came in with twenty thousand dollars a month
for eight month old attached, I said, Okay, I got
what's going on now. I don't like it, but I
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can't unsee what I saw and I can't unfeel what
I feel. So at the end of the day, I'm
now in a studio working on an album that shit
belonged to everybody else but me. You think I want
to sing these goddamn songs? Okay? You think Marvin Gaye
wanted to go to court after being married to Barry
(33:52):
Gordy's wife, I mean Barry Gordy's sister that was seventeen
years older than him named Anne Gordy, broke, depressed, addicted
to cocaine, going through everything imaginable in his life and
ended up going to court and didn't have anything that
he can give Barry Gordy's sister, and he ended up
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having a judgment to say, you're gonna go to the studio.
You're gonna record a full album. All of the money
from yourselves, your publishing, everything that has to do with
this album. You gotta give it to this woman that
you were married to, because you ain't got a pot
to piss in and a hole in the wall. And
you know what he named the album? Here, my dear,
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you think Marvin gave want to record that goddamn album.
You think Marvin Gay wanted his life to end up
the way it ended up before he released And it's
classics on the like just to keep you satisfied. You
know what that is, Charlotte Mane, you probably got three
kids off of that. That song would have never been
created if you didn't go through that tumultuous time. See
(34:57):
some of y'all out here, y'all niggas break up with
somebody in three weeks and y'all selling out arenas and
y'all are confusing popularity. What matters you? Mike wave ass
motherfucker ain't gonna be here five years.
Speaker 8 (35:11):
So it sounds like you, I mean, you're in a
good space about a lot of stuff, right, So where
are you because people you brought up mental health earlier,
and people always you said, people question your mental health,
Like where are you right now with everything?
Speaker 5 (35:23):
Mental health wise?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
I have never been in a better place in my life,
did it? I take anxiety medicine that's one milligram, it's
called Adavan, changed my life. I've never taken any other
version of anxiety medicine. Most of y'all niggas out here
taken anxiety medicine. Don't really actually have anxiety. You just
(35:46):
want to be high. Because your favorite rapper mentioned in
every three bars, I've learned to get massages. I love
that I live in a cul de sac where there's
no cars, no people, to no movement, because my version
of hitting the reset button is when I get away
from everything and everybody. That may make some people sad
(36:09):
and depressed, but when I get to be alone is
when I am at my best. We don't really have
to talk about the crying video, because as I was
asking what more do you want from me? I realized
I was really talking to God because I felt like
if my life went from a thirty second commercial to
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almost thirty years of some some type of a career,
I'm trying to figure out, like, what else do you
have in mind for me? What? What else are we going?
Speaker 9 (36:38):
What?
Speaker 1 (36:38):
What? What? What else happens from here at seriously, because
because because those were words that came out of my
mouth that I never knew that that video was out
there for four months before the psych meds was out
of my system. So it's it's still painful to think
about the shame and embarrassment that came with something that
I didn't even know happened. But at the end of
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the day, I'm not here to make a mockery of
mental health. I'm just here to address what happens when
somebody says you're stressed out, you're going through something, and
they give you something to help you with your mental
health and it ended up having fucked up side effects
for the whole world to see. So with that being said,
understand and I gotta, I gotta, I gotta close this
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out by talking about the movie because I have to.
But I want to say this in closing. I want
to show this. I want to say this in closing
about beautiful pain. We could find ourselves as R and
B singers continuing to make reference to things and events
and moments that happened fifty years ago while disowning our gifts,
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disowning our songs, disowning our talents. Because we keep throwing
back to Donnie, to Marvin, to Stevie to all of
the greats. They are great, and they're still great. Rather
they're still with us or not. But it's time for
us as R and B singers to step into our
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greatness and have the audacity to say, I believe I
just made the most important album of my life. And
when I take my last breath fifty sixty years from now,
God willing, I don't pass no time soon, they will
look at this interview. They will look at all my documentaries.
They will look at me and the process of me
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making my album, which I've documented every step of the way,
and say, how can you not put that that there?
David Foster produced, executive produced Beautiful Pain. Brandon bam Hodge
produced Beautiful Pain. This is the only album that belongs
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on vinyl. You go to tyres dot TV, the pre
ordered kids go to sleep. I know hear me to
my ex, you fucked me up? He did. But God,
(39:18):
God had this to happen for a reason, because what
I gave birth to and this album and this music
never existed before that. What I just gave birth to
never existed before. Zelly. I got a song called Rescue
(39:38):
because she was my rescue. God sent this woman in
my life in the midst of all of my message.
Not in everybody's cars to be alone while you're going
through a broken heart. That's how people kill themselves. It's
not about let me wait until I heal and I
take my heel and join them. About one hundred percent,
get off the internet when you've grown and you understand
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the beauty of companionship, friends, family, loved ones and somebody
that you share in time with can put a smile
on your face when you can't put a smile on
your own face. Zelly, I love you, and I'm sorry
I had to do so many interviews talking about my
ex but I love you. It's spent four years and
you have changed my life. You are my rescue. God
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sent you in my life to be something that never
existed before you got there. You never asked to be there.
I was supposed to be married and do this with her.
She made her choice. Beautiful pain. It drops on the
same day as nineteen ninety two Friday August thirtieth, Rest
in peace to Ray Liota. I appreciate Scott Eastwood. I
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appreciate the director named Ariel Roman. Okay, this man is
Israeli from Israel, directing a film about one of the
most dramatic this nineteen ninety two. April twenty ninth, the
Rodney King Verdict. Not comparing tragedies. This was our September eleventh.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
September eleventh.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Hear me out. We're not talking about comparing the tragedies.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
It was a terrorist. I would like in Rodney King
more sort of like a George Floyd.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Police officers are terrorists. When you got seventeen white men
pulling out they batons and beating the shit out. They
killed this man, brought them back to life. They killed
this man. We've seen terrorism. Okay, Okay, so we got it.
We're not talking about airplanes and God bless all of
the loss. I'm not comparing tragedies. This was our September
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eleventh on the West Coast. Prior to that, it was
the nineteen sixty five riots. Okay, that the President of
the United States sent doctor Martin Luther King to Watts
before I was born in Watts and raised and became successful.
My City Watts was only known for the nineteen sixty
five Watts riots. The movie nineteen ninety two is not
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about the documentary of rioting looting. If y'all want to
watch a movie about rioting looting, go watch the shit online.
There's a documentary out there about It's plenty of them.
This is about a heist Radiota Scott Eastwood. They decided,
while the whole world is distracted, everything is burning, everybody's looting,
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rioting and burning La the fuck down. Let's go break
in this warehouse and steal fifty platinum bars out of
this motherfucker's safe and do a heist. And you have
never in your life seen as many white people in
the South Central LA. Movie. I'll give you the list. Colors,
Minister Society, boys in the Hood, baby Boy, Poetic Justice,
(42:49):
set it off straight out of Compton and the New
show Snowfall. Whenever you see white people, whenever you see
white people in these South Central LA movies, they're normally
police officer. This is fucking up black and brown people.
This movie is the This is nineteen ninety two is
my South Central Fast and the Furious.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Imagine that so and Ray passed, Ray passed away, and
this is the last piece of already left the world
with And it is the most uncomfortable performance you'll ever
see from Rayleoto. I mean, I'm talking about on the set, Ray,
what's going on? Yeah, all right, Ray wasn't fucking with nobody.
(43:34):
Ray was in it.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
You deal with a lot of grief, like I think
about you know, brother Paul Walker, and I think about
John Ray, John Singleton, your mother, divorce, your sisters. People
don't look at divorces grief, but you did. You lose things.
You know, you probably lost a lot of friends when
you went through your mental health breakdown. Are you really
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really really have you really taken the time to deal
with all of that grief or do you just try
to stay busy?
Speaker 9 (44:02):
To a boy, I'm doing the best I can. What
every twenty four hours, I get, that's its tissue.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
No, I don't need no tissue, black men cry you
no fucking tissue. Every twenty four hours I get. I'm
doing the best I can. Beautiful Pain, nineteen ninety two.
(44:39):
There is no square footage I could ever live in.
There was no rims, no jury at, no car, There
is no net worth. There was no press release, there
was no co star. There is no collaboration in the
world that could ever replace my mama, that could feel
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the void of what it's like to wake up and
get married and want to be in something for the
rest of your life and it goes away. I don't
need no tissue. Man, understand how much power it is
and letting it go.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
Yeah, because you've been holding the whole interview.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
You asked me the question, But I mean you should
have never asked the question if you didn't want to
see how hard it's being to get through. Okay, do
you not cry?
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (45:33):
You might not bring it to the radio, But this
is what being grown is. I'm not doing this.
Speaker 5 (45:43):
I mean, my makeup going to mess up. Hear me,
I can hear hear me.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Black men cry when divorces happen. Women aren't the only
ones that have devastated when a miscarriage happens. Women are
not the only one that you should be checking on
when you can't put food on the table because your
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career goes up and then it goes down. Stop calling,
skipping over the man and just checking on the woman.
This is real shit out here. I'm gonna wipe my
own tears. I love you, sis. When you do things
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from the heart of the facts hearts, that's what beautiful
pain is. Y'all might outsell me the first week I
made a fucking classic. Some of the most legendary movies
in the world didn't do well in the box office.
(46:52):
Baby Boy bombed. Do your research? Is it a classic?
Baby Boy? People to even know who the fuck I
was as actor when that movie came out.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
Maybe BT still got a network.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Praise God. If the movie bombed in the box office,
why is it the only movie that they still playing
on b ET every day. Don't confuse data and numbers
and popularity with the reality of what affects hearts. I'm
a grown ass man, and I'm gonna tell y'all something
(47:29):
about nineteen ninety two as well as the mass singer
when I did that show, praise God for Nick Cannon,
shout out to him. I was really a mass singer.
I needed that mask so fucking bad. I needed that
money from that show so bad. I didn't have it
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in me to go stand on that fucking stage and
sing and praise God. I had a mask on because
while I was on stage singing if they had seen
my face under that mask. Listen, if it all ends
for me tomorrow, I never sold you on fake. None
(48:13):
of this jury on my mom is real. Don't love
me because of no fucking diamonds. Take all this shit.
This bracelet right here, look realism. Motherfuck. This shit was
twenty three dollars on Amazon. You said nothing. Hear me
out it don't look fake right If you out here
(48:35):
getting fake vagina over your fake jury, reality is reality.
This shit is corny. It's all fake. It's all superficial.
It doesn't mean anything. Can I ask you a question?
My brother and clothing. Everybody go see nineteen ninety two
(48:55):
and Beautiful Pain. They both drop Friday, August thirtieth. It's
a labor day weekend. Shout out to Snoop Dogg, who's
an executive producer on board. I want you to understand something.
R and B just changed the live instruments. Gotta come out,
go pulling my chick garage. Just time to dust them out.
(49:16):
All of y'all out here making these beats on these
goddamn iPhones, and y'all end up number one. Y'all gonna
have to have a seat.
Speaker 5 (49:23):
That's why you did everything live. You're trying to bring
it back to that.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
I didn't do it live on purpose. That just ended
up happening because I got into the biggest argument ever
with my producer named Brandon. He was like, bro, I'm
not doing that no more. We're not pulling out logic,
we're not pulling out beat machines. We're doing this shit live.
And I said, I don't even know what the fuck
that is, but I tell you what. The number one song,
biggest song of my life, produced by Warren Campbell, was
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number one on Billboard for sixteen weeks, and that was live.
It's called Shame Shame. Wildflower. Shame was not a remake.
Wildflo is a remake that everybody already loved, and the
person who co wrote produce it has something to do
with it fifty years ago is involved with the current
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version of the song. I just want you to know
that everything just changed. If you ain't never Bret a
real person in your life, I'm sitting right here, like me,
dislike me, agree with me, disagree with me. Whoever your
favorite is, I hope they stay your favorite. I've never
tried to win the popularity contest, and if I did.
I got every celebrity, director, actor, rapper, porn star, you
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name it. They're all on my phone. I know all
these motherfuckers. I could be as hot as I want
to be. You don't think I got TMZ on the phone.
You don't think I know Harvey Levin. You don't think
I can make a phone call and say this is
what restaurant I'm eating at. Paparazzi show up.
Speaker 5 (50:45):
I used to work there. I would be there when
you Okay, are.
Speaker 3 (50:48):
Those areas real?
Speaker 1 (50:50):
No? You can't. You know why it's not real because
I've lost so much of this shit. They spent a
half a million dollar long on the fuck what called
Jacob to jeweler, nigga, call all of them all your
most favorite popular jeweler's online and all got my black Centurion.
(51:10):
You don't know what centurion is.
Speaker 3 (51:11):
They're platinum called that centurion called a black heart.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
They know what that centurion is. That thing goes through.
I'm good. I don't lose no sleep over trying to
win the popularity contest from showing up with all this
jury that I'm gonna leave on a night stand and
have a housekeeper to say, I don't know I'm sure
you don't know. I'm sure you don't know. For them
two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, fucking two hundred and
(51:38):
thousand dollars, it raises that I don't know.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
We looked at anywhere.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
I'm sure you looked everywhere. That motherfucker retired two weeks later,
and sure hotels ain't paying me back to this day.
Speaker 10 (51:51):
You know's new album beautiful pig Star TV everywhere you
scream music on a piece of history, double y August
Beautiful Pain.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
On my on my website. Thank you for asking that
there's a limited edition version of the album. And every
limited edition version of my Beautiful Pain album that is purchased,
it comes signed. I'm not putting your name on it, motherfucker.
There's too many of them, but I'm signing every individual album.
Go to tyres dot tv pre order. I want you
to own a piece of history.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
August thirtieth, Beautiful Pain will be out.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
And thank you for everybody who's shawing up for my dreams,
my engineers, my writers, my producers. I wish I had
the time to go into every individual name, but I
just want you all to know, man, y'all showed up
for my dreams. Y'all been my therapist, you've been my friend,
You've encouraged me. And I have to close this out
(52:52):
by giving the one and only name that matters. If
you don't know, Jesus, the Lord Jesus Christ is my
Lord and savior. Every therapist has ever helped me, every friend,
every brother, girlfriend laughed at jokes. I would not be
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here if it wasn't for the power and the presence
of the Lord Jesus Christ, who has been by my side.
When I thought it was over, when I thought it
was a rap, When I thought, what you thought? What
more do you congradual life? When I thought it was over,
God said no, I'm God. Amen, I got my hands
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on you. Son. All you got to do is wake
up and decide to not do nothing. Stupid. Divorce is divorce.
People out here get sad and messed up and broken
and they decide they don't want to live no more.
I praise God every single day that that's never been
a choice. It's not because narcissism. Ego, oh, he would
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never hurt himself. Because some of the biggest egos in
the world, with money and all the success in the world,
have made that choice, and if you're struggling with that,
I just want you to invite the Lord Jesus Christ
into your most vulnerable spaces and places and watch and
see what only God can do. Beautiful Pain at nineteen
(54:23):
ninety two are both dropping August thirty, Labor Day weekend Friday,
August thirty. If the only place you can get Beautiful
Pain right now is on Tyres TV, I can't sell
you on anything you don't want to be sold on
because the data, the pop little Taytay livery All I
can say is if you've grown and sexy and you
appreciate real song, real vulnerabilities, real music, and I'm gonna
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tell you something else Charlemagne and I'm gonna shut up.
I praise God for this. I've actually played this album
for more married couples. They've danced, they've cried, they've wiped
each other others tears, they've literally said including Snoop Dog
with his wife that he's been with since high school.
He said, Babe, I'm sorry, and she like what, babs,
(55:11):
you know whatever? This album has brought married couples closer.
They're having sex the bedroom, they taking bubble baths, they
apologize and they're like, what are we arguing about? Like
what this is not I went through a divorce. This
ain't no bitter shit. You are not about to pick
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up my I'm not about to be the Lord Jesus
Christ Jesus, and I'm about to release an album to
contribute to the divorce rate. M if y'all think y'all
about to go pick up an album where I'm going
at my ex the whole time. No, no, no, I got songs,
I got feelings, I got vulnerabilities and sentiments. I am
(55:54):
not misogynistic, I am not condescending. I'm not ripping her
down too. I am telling my truth. Point out the
difference in me and all of your female singers who
have ever released songs and singles about problems, cheated on,
lies and divorces and things that they've been through. And
it's fucked up for y'all to continue coming at me
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like I can't express my sentiments and feelings the way
women have been able to do since the beginning of time.
Go get this work, beautiful, pain Tyrens TV nineteen ninety
two were making history and everybody to try and block it.
Move out the way God's got his hands on this.
Speaker 3 (56:34):
Gives I love you, brother. Don't run from your grief. Brother.
It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1 (56:38):
Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The Breakfast Club Morning, Everybody's dj en V just hilarious charlamage,
the guy we are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Laura l Rossa is holding it downes. It's on maternity
leave and we.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Got a special guest in the building. Good brother, Tyre Gibbs.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Tye is here.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Good morning something.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
What's funny now, man? Other than your great beard, I'm
letting it grow were grown? What's funny? Bopa?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I bet you won't let your face your head growing.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
You're fucking right, fucking right, how.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Are you, sir?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Not only am I not gonna let him grow in,
but I definitely tried to get into my implant game
and it didn't. You know, it landed, but it didn't
landed for the video, didn't land for the Spangled banner.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
But we talked about with a Wildflower.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah, I shot the video. It wasn't even a video.
It's it's a short film called Wildflower, dedicated to my
mother Rest in Peace, produced by the legend David Foster
and uh my producer Brad them Damn Hodge. And even
though everyone knows the song Wildflower, it was it was
(01:07):
David Foster's group it's called Skylark from fifty years ago
and they released Wildflower. These these are Canadians that are
from Canada singing R and B and then the the
way that we know about the song is when New
Birth did it right. So, but David Foster has never
gotten back in the studio to do any other remake
(01:28):
of Wildflower until now. So I'm very honored that he
did this on behalf of my mom and I'm very grateful.
And it just it just actually came out today. Man.
So I'm like, I'm always emotional. I'm any emotional wreck
just knowing that my mama song came out today.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
So what made you put the outphone on? Because that
was my I'm gonna ShW you my favorite video.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Marvin Gay.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Right, I was, well, I'm talking about the.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Yeah, we talked about that moment up here.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Of course, Charlemagne. Charlemagne is a control Thank you.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I'm like this this is me getting ready for bed.
This was fantastic. Look at my caption. How I feel
getting ready for bed every night. That's me.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
See that you know your con fellas, I have to go.
I just want to stay away, disrespect conversation. I was
about to say he about to throw one at me.
Go ahead and conversation before on off, and you know
we we spoke like man. But I have to go.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
But I don't want him to feel disrespectful that I'm leaving.
I think he has a conversation.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
What I think it is too. I told you I
got to go before.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Can y'all have one interview with y'all don't disrespect each other?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Why envy? Yes, sir, I love you. What part of
your car show at this point, hongng, how many years
you've been doing it? Six years? Six years? What part
of your car show requires you to be there physically
unloading cars yourself? Well, it's the thing, I tell you
because I do car shows too, but Runner, I've neverloaded.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
They're actually pulling up this weekend. But the thing is
is when Cardi B and Offset give me their car,
I don't let anybody touch their car but me because
if something happens, and that happened before we push your
tea push the t game is ferrari.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I let somebody pull it off the thing and he crashed,
you see him?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
So now for my situation, when anybody comes and loading
it and loading is actually at nine thirty I'm supposed
to be there. I personally take their cars off. So
next time I come to Atlanta and I take your car,
I'm gonna put you know that Envy will personally take
care okay. Well if I if, I would be okay.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
And I feel disrespected about Envy leaving because it said
this interview is pretty important. Everybody want to see us,
but they definitely tuned in right now for my bage.
Fella right, I just want you to say these words,
Envy before you leave. Boy, Beautiful Pain is the most
important R and B album in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I haven't heard yet. You got a point.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
That's cool. I want to believe I sent him at
least a couple of pieces, and you did. You got
them to.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Just be wondering why they're taking so long, like you've
been sitting on this album for a while.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
It's called being independent.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
It's called money up, money down, being grown, and dealing
with seven lawsuits getting in the way of all kinds
of ship that I wanted to do. But we're here
now and now Envy is leaving.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
We just seen Daniel in the hall y'all talking about
Teddy Pendergrass. That's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Bumper mother, that's crazy hurting them for that. He had
that motherfucker in the I cloud.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Talking last night and he said, he said, man might
come on the tail and Lee.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
Wait, hold on, wight on, hold on, I must, I
must say that the first part is bullshit, the second
part is true.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Wait.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I said, this is what I said, and I had
I announced. I ain't saying with the compart. This is
this nigga put it in on. This is what I
did say. I said, hey, man, I might have to
pull up on the tail end of the Lee Daniels
interview because y'all gonna be interviewing him. Right before I
heard what I said, I said, Paul, I said, hold on,
(05:47):
he don't give a nigga, let's move on. I thought
you didn't have no time do so you want to
stay here for the gay conversation. You want to stay here.
So so all of a sudden, CARDI B Is loaded.
I gotta don't matter because you don't want to hear
details off the tail end on. I heard you talking
(06:07):
about movie. Nobody else was there.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
That's true, and you were you were talking about you.
You were saying, make sure that you know you you
you really want to do that movie, So to break
that down, is that gonna happen?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
So, So what I explained to him was Lee Daniels
was born and raised in Philly. All right, he was
here with arjor Day, my fellow Capricorn. And Lee has
a specific commitment to telling stories from the legends and
icons from the ground to Philadelphia. All Right, I'm not
gonna be disparaging because we ain't finna get no more
(06:40):
calls about Oh he said this about truth be told. Uh,
there was a lawsuit filed and I did not win
the lawsuit, or not not win. I did not have
the lawsuit to work in my favor because I've been
on this journey to do Teddy Pendergrass for literally fourteen years,
(07:01):
long before Teddy married his current widow. Right, And again,
I have still respect for her. But when you're doing
a film with someone who does not have any experience,
respectfully in Hollywood, they don't know the process of writing
and rewriting and trying to figure out like how do
you tell the best story? You cannot do a Teddy
(07:21):
Pendergrass movie that has him quadriplegic for the whole movie
because nobody's gonna watch that movie. The movie was never
cradle to the grave, meaning from the moment he was
born to the moment he passed. And his wife, who
is incredible. I've seen her passion and love for this man,
which is why I don't want to be disrespectful.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
But.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
She was in his life, you know, the last four
years of his life, and the movie that myself and
Lee Daniels wanted to tell did not include that piece
of life that they had together. It was from this
period to that period, and that's the movie and the
story that we wanted to tell. And I don't think
anybody would would like you know as much as I
(08:05):
know and want to do as an actor. When Lee
Daniels in the driver's seat, as a genius that he
is as a filmmaker, he is, even I knew how
to shut the fuck up and get out the way, absolutely,
Like I was not involved in the day to day
of the script, in the process. Because you don't want
to piss Lee off for making him feel like you're
micro managing the process. Nigga, am I here to do
what I'm here to do? You show up and you
(08:27):
ready to do teddy? Okay? So at the end of
the day, I didn't think it was fair, and it
all fell apart. Warner Brothers, Lee, Daniels, Tyres. This man
told me, you're the only person in the world that
could ever play me.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
So what hey told you that person?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
There's nobody else on this on this earth that I
would ever trust that. He said, you know, the reason
why you're gonna play me is because you never wanted
to be me. I can't stand motherfuckers out here trying
to copy me. You've sing your ass off and you've
been doing you this whole time, and I want you
and I know you the only one that could tell
the story, so as you could imagine if something or
(09:07):
anybody's getting in the way of that. And we got
to lead Daniels from Philly Borne to raise and all
that that. So so that's that's what you just heard.
I basically just said the Lee, Ah in Jesus' name,
we're still gonna make this movie. They said, don't let
it go. Don't let it go. And I'm gonna tell
you right now that there is no other version of
(09:28):
the Teddy Pendergrass package is better than this package. So
I may have sued and lost the law suit.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Would you think Teddy would have wanted you to sue
his widow? Though?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I think I think the Teddy Pendergrass that I that
I know and got to know, Teddy Pendergrass is not
interested in anything or anybody that would getting the way
of progress. And I would he say sue. No, nobody
would ever say, hey, man, if she getting away sewer,
that's not what that man said me. What I will
(10:01):
say is I've been around. I've heard him say things
about people that you would never ever think he feels
this or feels that about. And I never repeat it
because that's who my heart is. But I will say,
Teddy don't fuck with who Teddy don't funk with, And
I'm aware of who he does and who he don't.
They can paint whatever picture they want, but Teddy is
(10:21):
not interested in anything or anybody getting the way of
his story being told Teddy didn't him. I'm not saying
that at all. Those are not my words. That's that
Charlemagne trying to do that.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
People would it like that an envy is.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
Slipping out of here? All right, we're gonna hug I
love you, There you go. That's what I like to
see that's what I like to see. That's what I
like this, that's what I like to see.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
You know what, I'm gonna tell you what's funked up.
I'm gonna tell you what's funked up. If that was
Acon's car, you wouldn't be leaving there. His life scanning
Niggas stick.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Together headline looked like NVBIT, But listen. She also said
she was a poor businessman.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Poor businessman. That's fine, that's fine. Everybody's entitled to their opinion.
I want to believe that securing a deal with Warner Brothers,
securing Lee Daniels developing an actual relationship with her late
great husband, that says everything about who I am as
a business man, because I produce results. We had the
(11:28):
biggest press release ever. At the end of the day,
she's gonna see this interview, and I just want her
to know that, in my mind, I made a commitment
to your husband. I made a commitment to his story,
his journey, and Lee Daniels is still ready to go,
and Warner Brothers is still ready to go. I'm just
gonna hope and pray that somebody can make the phone
(11:48):
call to say that there is no better Teddy Pendergrass
package than Tyree's Lee Daniels and Warner Brothers. That's it.
Speaker 8 (11:57):
But so if somebody doesn't make that phone call and
it happened right in a perfect world, like, how do
y'all move forward?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
We already got the script done?
Speaker 8 (12:04):
Not the script, but I mean, like just as people
and like now you have all this in the media,
the lawsuit or whatever.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
It's like, did you just see what happened with me
and Envy?
Speaker 5 (12:12):
So y'all gonna sit down to have a conversation.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
You've seen what just happened with me and Envy. Yeah,
we're supposed to be fucking bare knuckle.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Right here, cracking all right, m't doing.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
That, but we we said we wasn't doing and me
and Charlemagne said, we're not doing that. Me and Envy said,
we're not doing that. So if everybody tuning in there
ready for war, where's the war? Right? We've grown ass men,
and guess what we all felt and feel and went
about all of this shit the way we did. There's actions,
there's reactions that went to whatever level. But I'm a
(12:41):
grown ass man, and at the end of the day,
he is too, and that man is too so I
really believe in Jesus' name. First of all. First of all,
I'll say this, not despite anybody. We can't make Teddy
Pendergrass about any of us. His story his story. It's
history and it belongs to the world. And there's nobody
(13:04):
else in the world that could do that but me.
Y'all seeing the beard.
Speaker 8 (13:10):
And why hold it onto the why did it go
into the star spangled banner situation?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I'll tell you because the guy. First of all, shout
out to my barber. I literally flew in man from Texas.
We found him a year ago online and his process
takes about five hours. And I did not want to
do anything from Hollywood because first of all, there's a
lot of white people are the makeup artists, and they
(13:34):
don't even know nothing about this black texture. So that's
why you got motherfuckers out here looking real crazy when
they put on fake beards and movies or whatever. First
of all, I'm an actor, and if anybody can get
away with putting on prosthetics and fake this and fake that,
it would be me that when you go and do
all that fake shit in real life, we got to
ask a real idea of question. But I have never
(13:55):
had facial hairds like that in my life. I got
a hold of what I believe is the best person
that could do that shit to make it look real
and believable. And I literally went full on for my
Wildflower not a video or a short film, and it
was casted by Robbie Reid, who did levels of like
(14:15):
Malcolm X, like this is a real movie. It would
be disrespectful the call of the music video, and so
I went all out. Okay, and my whole move, my
whole album, Beautiful Pain is like rumor has it the
year twenty twenty four is coming, I've been in the
year nineteen sixty eight for the last almost four years.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
You said twenty twenty four is coming.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Rumor has it that we're still going to be alive
in twenty twenty four. I have been in the year
nineteen sixty eight working on this Beautiful Pain album. Because
when I was working on my album, there was no
such thing as Luther Vanros featuring Curtis Blow. There was
no such thing as Marvin Gaye feature and run DMC
was never. I want to tell you, baby, the chance
(15:05):
is I've been going through I've been working on teams
chances I've been going through the team. There was no
such thinking. Okay, grown ass man with just R and
B records that did not feature hip hop. So that's
what I did. I got twenty songs they live and
there was nothing about what I did in my Wildflower
(15:27):
video that had anything to do with me looking like
Jody baby Boy, Roaman Pierce, none of them niggas. I
had to become the person that I envisioned myself becoming
the motherfucking bail bottom shoe, her pants and them platform shoes.
That was this stick worstship I've ever experienced in my life.
I got.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
I got a lover of the Adida suit with the
lofers the what worse than your Adida suit?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yes, yes, yes that was Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
That was uncomfortable where it was uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Listen, man, I ain't never wore no ship like that
in my life. Okay, full beard, full head of hair.
I wore a bonnet to go to sleep. My girl
gave me a bonnet, Okay, I had. I woke up
with a headache, damn because of the bonnet. Whatever that
ball that you you know, because I don't wear Wayne casts.
None of that ship nigga that bought that bonnet the
(16:20):
string tight. I woke up. I was like, yo, man,
I don't have I have no motherfucking idea. How y'all
niggas ain't no, ain't no way in hell anybody should
be committing the hair and waking up with I was
on fire. Yeah, So anyway, anyway, well, well it was
(16:41):
it was promo in my mind because I'm I'm pretty
methodical with my ship when when I can, they don't
always land, but it lands.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Why didn't think it was? It was like extra from
Good Time?
Speaker 8 (16:53):
It was because he was singing that it was the
way that that's.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
What he thought, like one of Rollo's friends or.
Speaker 8 (16:59):
Something from So you like it didn't land? Like you,
you keep saying that, what's up? You keep saying that
that it didn't land? What didn't land?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Like?
Speaker 5 (17:05):
What are you referring to? Are you talking about? When
you were singing and start.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
When I was singing the national anthem and landed. But
I was saying that not everything that I'm very methodic,
I'm a capricorn. So we think and we'd strategize and
we calculate, and I was saying that not everything that
we calculate will always land. But everything about what I
did landed right. So I said, to these white people
(17:29):
at the rams, I said, to the to the people
at at at even the movie studio, I said, let
me tell you something. There is no version of me
doing the national anthem looking like Tyree, singing like Tyree's,
wearing regular Tyree's clothing that's going to get as much
traction and attention as this. And the outfit that I
wore is the output that I wore in the entire
(17:51):
music video or short film from Wildflow, is it?
Speaker 5 (17:56):
No, I didn't see I didn't see Wildflower.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
But I know he tried to come at me about
the ship. He's like, you're coming up here in that
beard for the interview, right, I said.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
I was really confused all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Of course, anybody I was confused. Everybody. Were they thinking
that I'm having another mental health breakdown on live television. Okay,
this is not a what more do you want from me?
Part two? It ain't never coming.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
And you didn't sound bad. I was like, well, he
don't sound bad singing. Now, let's not do that like
you know.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Let me let me make another connection for the young niggas,
who who didn't live before Twitter was born. Uh, The
Great Western Forum had a legend by the name of
Marvin Gaye who sung one of the most legendary national
anthems ever at a Laker game. Okay, and that actual
physical property. Okay, let me give it to y'all. Y'all
(18:49):
still kind of slow, so let me get y'all to
catch up to me. Okay, here we go. The Great
Western Forum is in Inglewood.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Right here, right, oh, geographical right now?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Okay, I got it because because these kids don't know
what the fuck is going on Great Western Form. It's
right here. The same exact parking lot is where the
Sofi arena is located. I showed up in a red
Beanie and everything about my approach to the anthem and
the year that I've been living in Donnie Hathaway, Marvin Gaye,
(19:19):
Teddy Pendergrass, Stevie wonder Motown. This red Beanie was holding
hands with this red Beanie at the Gray Western Form
as I sung the national anthem on top of live
congos in an arena that just got built a couple
of years ago called the Sofi and the same exact
property holding hands. So Marvin did it? I did a
(19:42):
music video. This man said, it's gonna take four hours
to take all that nappy shit off your face. I said,
I don't have time. We left the set of Wildflower
and went straight to the Anthem because these white people
want to be there by ten thirty to rehearse. Like fuck,
I don't rehearse. I need sleep. But if y'all want
me to rehearse, i gotta show up in full costume
(20:03):
because I'm just leaving the set. So when Wildflower drops,
I think for all the people that's laughing, joking or
just asking questions, they're gonna understand.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
It wasn't given. It was given like Lamar Standford got
a date. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (20:16):
You know, but people picked up the Marvin because of
the I think it was like the just the way
you sung it, people.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Picked it up.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Look at this go ahead, you did it.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
But I really I didn't know what yo.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Listen, you did it, You did it, You did that.
This nigga here he gonna.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
I'm trying to move on, keep going back.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
I was Raised'll know that doing comedy.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Man.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Now that I'm saying here, I'm like, you kind of
you knew what you was doing, like.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
Can you look a little not trod in a bad way,
but like you knew that it was gonna get the
people going, and you didn't have a choice, so you
just made to do what you had to make.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Do at the time.
Speaker 8 (20:55):
It's like, hene, it's a different feeling now because before
I'm like, this.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
Is not going on.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Well, listen, y'all, all jokes aside. Wildflower is available worldwide.
It just went live on all the streaming platforms. And
you already know this song. You love this song. We
grew up on this song. I would have never heard
this song a day of my life. Let me tell
y'all something. Imagine me, little boy. Long before I ever
(21:23):
knew I could sing, my mama was an alcoholic twenty
seven years May God rest her soul. She died two
years ago, twenty twenty two. Of all days, she give
birth to an R and B singer, and she dies
on Valentine's Day. Okay, two girls, two boys, I'm the
last one. I'm the baby boy officially, So imagine, long
(21:46):
before I ever knew I could hold a note, As
my mama is drinking talking about she ain't just like sipping.
My mama was full on right. The soundtrack that helped
her to drink even more was R and B soul music.
I don't really know no other version of R and B,
(22:07):
like I don't know nothing about Little Taytay, Little Rayleay, look,
Little Say Say Listen, they will never be David Foster
and Little Tate in the same sentence, you understand me.
So y'all might be winning the popularity contest because you
know record labels these days, y'all niggas is corny, okay, corny?
Hey man, you know what's the data? What's the streaming numbers?
(22:31):
What's the YouTube view? Goofy from radio the same way
with goofy. If y'all motherfuckers think I'm at any point,
I'm forty five years old. Let me tell yall something.
Hear me, cameras is rolling right. What's your name?
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (22:46):
You look like envy nigga, don't like I'm just letting.
I'm I'm triggered.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Looking at.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Hold on, hold up, listen, listen, So listen, I'm forty
five years old. What's your name? Says again? And how
old are you? If you're mind you're thirty two? Let
me tell you something. I'm forty five years old. My
voice is deep. This nigga got gray facial hair as
a wife at home family. If I ever look out
in the audience and see a sixteen year old with
purple hair and black fingernails uploading a TikTok video on
(23:21):
my motherfucking audience, I would literally get him removed.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Why all that?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Why what if you appreciate I'm grown, but just I'm
trying to I'm trying to make go ahead. I'm trying
to make y'all understand that us, as grown men and
grown women, we are losing sight of the reality of
what this se is because we are here, thirsty and
(23:46):
desperate trying to appeal to kids.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
I'm not against that.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
So so I don't mean that literally. That's stupid. I
speak in antics.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
I'm starting to learn you, okay.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I'm just letting and you know there is nothing about
that that any record label will ever be able to
convince me that if you don't check off these boxes
and do this and do that, then we don't really
know if we need to sign or do or listen.
Goofy ass record label executives, especially you executives that are
(24:22):
lucky to still have a job after you done worked
for fifteen goddamn record labels and don't even understand how
you still own. Go ahead and sign Little Ta Tay
Little jj litt Saysei, I'm a grown ass man. I
sell out arenas. I know what the other side of
two hundred thousand dollars a night look like. And I'm
(24:44):
not going nowhere. So do your data, do your research,
and go ahead and sign the niggas that went into
YouTube war. I'm a grown ass man. I don't want
none of you young niggas in my audience anyway. As
a matter of fact, my album is so grown. I'm
about to put out an album that's gonna help make
your baby sister, your baby brother's coming nigga because of me.
(25:10):
I'm post pandemic in a big jacket. Hmm. Grown Okay,
I'm selling out, and your mama gonna be in the
audience when she puts your ass asleep. Ain't gonna leave
you at home with a nanny.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Now, I don't disagree with then you said, but what
if because you are an international movie star.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
As well, I got it. Wh ain't talking about that.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
About these youngins who might see faster ferience.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
And they see the fast and then they.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Say, oh, he does music too, So then they go
in there and listen to the music and they're like,
I like this.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
They are welcome. What I'm saying to you is.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
You're not catered to the.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Forty five years old.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Get you.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I go to clubs that say twenty one and over.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
What the fuck?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Who is you go to? Slave nigga? Check your motherfucker ass.
Hey nigga, listen, hey, listen. Let me tell you something.
When you wake up in the morning, little young nigga,
you gonna have your homework, pend on your goddamn back
(26:16):
and a bus is pulling up. I'm grown, cuz fuck
out here, Okay, So I just want to make it plain. Yes,
I think I did. Listen, R and B, all of
the R and B singers out here, we know what
versus did for all of our careers. Hear me. All
(26:37):
your record labels can't stand you, motherfuckers. I love you
because you're doing what you gotta do. You gotta pivot
right when things change, things chang. I'm not bitter and
I'm not mad. Y'all losing sight. I've been I've been
out of a deal over two years, and I just
signed my deal, and the deal was for three million.
Oh so you are signed to a media It just
(26:58):
happened last week, CMG. And don't start calling them what No, No,
I'm not even gonna tell you. Don't start calling them either,
because they're not gonna give you my number, motherfucker. They're
gonna give you two hundred and look at your data.
(27:20):
Get out my goddamn beniness. Anyway, I want to make
it plain. It's distribution, it's everything. It's it's a full
on joint venture partnership. I'm signing artists, I'm doing publishing deals.
It's a whole thing. They didn't say here it's Votron
Records that has been homeless until now because these niggas
(27:41):
is pulling out the YouTube views. And they said litrd
Tata mattered in a fucking legend named Tyresee goofy ass niggas.
I'm right here. Wildflower will be number one for forty
weeks and Little Tate and David Foster will never be
in the same sentence. How does that make you feel?
(28:02):
We are exhausted with auto tune. We are exhausted with
motherfuckers out here who are not singing, who's not coming
from the soul. If y'all want us to think and
believe that Charlemagne the God is not going home to
his beautiful wife and his family. If y'all want us
to believe that all these women out here selling out
(28:24):
arenas talking about fuck you, I don't need you, I'm independent,
I could do bad by myself. If you think they're
not going home to a husband, you are the most
confused generation period. Y'all sing what happened with Siarra when
she released that song, and they like, I'm so confused,
(28:45):
and that's no disrespect to her. We all understand that
the record labels. It's like, if you, as a female artist,
want to be Scissa, Somma Walker, Iiko or this or
that and all these different women out here who keep
going and bashing men in the songs Jazmine Sullivan, Mary J. Blige,
If you want to sell out arenas, they not buying
(29:07):
love right now. They don't want to hear about how
much you love your husband that you're actually going home to.
These women ain't going home by theirself. Okay, I bust
the windows out your car, and after I bust the
windows out his car, I'm going home because I love you,
and I hate that we even took shit to that level.
That's what my eye missed. Now listen, I would love
(29:29):
to take up the rest of his interview time and
talk about my ex, but I'm not gonna do that.
Don't just listen to know what I'm saying. I love you.
I would love to take up the rest of his
interview time from going at my ex so that y'all
can understand what motivated Beautiful Pain, but I'm not going
(29:49):
to do that. I got plenty of interviews out there
with the whole world here in the details of my
heart about how I am still trying to figure out who,
what and how this all happened. But I'm also gonna
say to y'all that this album, including my new relationship,
has helped me to discover the beauty in my pain.
(30:12):
That's why the album is called Beautiful Pain. Twenty songs total,
It's all live Lenny Kravitz, Kenny g El, DeBarge, Kim Barell,
October London. We got a song on this album called
Bedroom Bully. Let me tell you something. I'm pregnant right now.
(30:38):
I knew it. I tell you boy, Charlamagne first Lady
at the House ask yourself some real questions about the
things your husband is into. I mean, we can't let
five minutes go by without some type of gays flying.
I just goddamn pause. That was my full jus. Gay
(31:01):
juice is the topic of whatever the fuck he keep
hurling out. A you either straight at your gay, ain't nobody,
don't be in my comments, mother, but you could be
whatever version of the gay you want. If you either
straight at your gay, that's it. I'm grown.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I didn't want to ask.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
You one question though, Yes, beautiful thing. We know what
the album is about. When you see things, and I
don't want you to talk about your Acause'm just this
is a music question. Yes, when your ex does go
out there and continue to say things, does it make
you go to the studio.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
And rewrite, write more? What does it do? Because I
know that's what I know, that's how you've been channeling
all that.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
None of the things that she has been saying. If
I'm being honest, it's irritating, Okay, it's annoying. I don't
know who this person is. I wish I did. None
of her friends know who she is. I don't know
who she is, and I think we've already addressed that
and unpacked that. What I will say is I didn't
really need any other motivator because if you were to
(32:00):
put on some three D glasses, I'm sitting here in
the bay's jacket and I'm still on fire about the
confusion in and around my entire thing, crashing and burning. Now,
pride and ego is supposed to say, you look good,
you got money, you dry this, you live in that,
your square footage is that you got a new love.
So you know, here's the other narrative that that women
(32:24):
I love, y'all, but it's it's amazing to me. Does
that mean Jasmine Sullivan still want to be with her
ex because she released the song talk about Busts and
Windows out of Car? Does Mary J. Blige want to
get back with Ken Do because she has done a
bunch of interviews and released a bunch of songs venting
(32:46):
and talking and expressing her thoughts, feelings and sentiment about
a marriage that ultimately didn't work. Because it is fucked
up for y'all to keep telling me that I want,
I lust, I desire, I want. I have not talked
to this woman. I have not secretly done a lunch
at dinner. If she were to post screenshots right now
(33:09):
of her phone since she left me, there is not
one fucking text message that says I'll do it now.
There was some begging and pleading and trying to understand
when we first broke up, but the moment that that
divorce paperwork came in with twenty thousand dollars a month
for eight month old attached, I said, Okay, I got
what's going on now. I don't like it, but I
(33:31):
can't unsee what I saw and I can't unfeel what
I feel. So at the end of the day, I'm
now in a studio working on an album that shit
belonged to everybody else but me. You think I want
to sing these goddamn songs? Okay? You think Marvin Gaye
wanted to go to court after being married to Barry
(33:52):
Gordy's wife, I mean Barry Gordy's sister that was seventeen
years older than him named Anne Gordy, broke, depressed, addicted
to cocaine, going through everything imaginable in his life and
ended up going to court and didn't have anything that
he can give Barry Gordy's sister, and he ended up
(34:13):
having a judgment to say, you're gonna go to the studio.
You're gonna record a full album. All of the money
from yourselves, your publishing, everything that has to do with
this album. You gotta give it to this woman that
you were married to, because you ain't got a pot
to piss in and a hole in the wall. And
you know what he named the album? Here, my dear,
(34:36):
you think Marvin gave want to record that goddamn album.
You think Marvin Gay wanted his life to end up
the way it ended up before he released And it's
classics on the like just to keep you satisfied. You
know what that is, Charlotte Mane, you probably got three
kids off of that. That song would have never been
created if you didn't go through that tumultuous time. See
(34:57):
some of y'all out here, y'all niggas break up with
somebody in three weeks and y'all selling out arenas and
y'all are confusing popularity. What matters you? Mike wave ass
motherfucker ain't gonna be here five years.
Speaker 8 (35:11):
So it sounds like you, I mean, you're in a
good space about a lot of stuff, right, So where
are you because people you brought up mental health earlier,
and people always you said, people question your mental health,
Like where are you right now with everything?
Speaker 5 (35:23):
Mental health wise?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
I have never been in a better place in my life,
did it? I take anxiety medicine that's one milligram, it's
called Adavan, changed my life. I've never taken any other
version of anxiety medicine. Most of y'all niggas out here
taken anxiety medicine. Don't really actually have anxiety. You just
(35:46):
want to be high. Because your favorite rapper mentioned in
every three bars, I've learned to get massages. I love
that I live in a cul de sac where there's
no cars, no people, to no movement, because my version
of hitting the reset button is when I get away
from everything and everybody. That may make some people sad
(36:09):
and depressed, but when I get to be alone is
when I am at my best. We don't really have
to talk about the crying video, because as I was
asking what more do you want from me? I realized
I was really talking to God because I felt like
if my life went from a thirty second commercial to
(36:31):
almost thirty years of some some type of a career,
I'm trying to figure out, like, what else do you
have in mind for me? What? What else are we going?
Speaker 9 (36:38):
What?
Speaker 1 (36:38):
What? What? What else happens from here at seriously, because
because because those were words that came out of my
mouth that I never knew that that video was out
there for four months before the psych meds was out
of my system. So it's it's still painful to think
about the shame and embarrassment that came with something that
I didn't even know happened. But at the end of
(37:00):
the day, I'm not here to make a mockery of
mental health. I'm just here to address what happens when
somebody says you're stressed out, you're going through something, and
they give you something to help you with your mental
health and it ended up having fucked up side effects
for the whole world to see. So with that being said,
understand and I gotta, I gotta, I gotta close this
(37:23):
out by talking about the movie because I have to.
But I want to say this in closing. I want
to show this. I want to say this in closing
about beautiful pain. We could find ourselves as R and
B singers continuing to make reference to things and events
and moments that happened fifty years ago while disowning our gifts,
(37:47):
disowning our songs, disowning our talents. Because we keep throwing
back to Donnie, to Marvin, to Stevie to all of
the greats. They are great, and they're still great. Rather
they're still with us or not. But it's time for
us as R and B singers to step into our
(38:09):
greatness and have the audacity to say, I believe I
just made the most important album of my life. And
when I take my last breath fifty sixty years from now,
God willing, I don't pass no time soon, they will
look at this interview. They will look at all my documentaries.
They will look at me and the process of me
(38:31):
making my album, which I've documented every step of the way,
and say, how can you not put that that there?
David Foster produced, executive produced Beautiful Pain. Brandon bam Hodge
produced Beautiful Pain. This is the only album that belongs
(38:53):
on vinyl. You go to tyres dot TV, the pre
ordered kids go to sleep. I know hear me to
my ex, you fucked me up? He did. But God,
(39:18):
God had this to happen for a reason, because what
I gave birth to and this album and this music
never existed before that. What I just gave birth to
never existed before. Zelly. I got a song called Rescue
(39:38):
because she was my rescue. God sent this woman in
my life in the midst of all of my message.
Not in everybody's cars to be alone while you're going
through a broken heart. That's how people kill themselves. It's
not about let me wait until I heal and I
take my heel and join them. About one hundred percent,
get off the internet when you've grown and you understand
(40:02):
the beauty of companionship, friends, family, loved ones and somebody
that you share in time with can put a smile
on your face when you can't put a smile on
your own face. Zelly, I love you, and I'm sorry
I had to do so many interviews talking about my
ex but I love you. It's spent four years and
you have changed my life. You are my rescue. God
(40:25):
sent you in my life to be something that never
existed before you got there. You never asked to be there.
I was supposed to be married and do this with her.
She made her choice. Beautiful pain. It drops on the
same day as nineteen ninety two Friday August thirtieth, Rest
in peace to Ray Liota. I appreciate Scott Eastwood. I
(40:49):
appreciate the director named Ariel Roman. Okay, this man is
Israeli from Israel, directing a film about one of the
most dramatic this nineteen ninety two. April twenty ninth, the
Rodney King Verdict. Not comparing tragedies. This was our September eleventh.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
September eleventh.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Hear me out. We're not talking about comparing the tragedies.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
It was a terrorist. I would like in Rodney King
more sort of like a George Floyd.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Police officers are terrorists. When you got seventeen white men
pulling out they batons and beating the shit out. They
killed this man, brought them back to life. They killed
this man. We've seen terrorism. Okay, Okay, so we got it.
We're not talking about airplanes and God bless all of
the loss. I'm not comparing tragedies. This was our September
(41:43):
eleventh on the West Coast. Prior to that, it was
the nineteen sixty five riots. Okay, that the President of
the United States sent doctor Martin Luther King to Watts
before I was born in Watts and raised and became successful.
My City Watts was only known for the nineteen sixty
five Watts riots. The movie nineteen ninety two is not
(42:05):
about the documentary of rioting looting. If y'all want to
watch a movie about rioting looting, go watch the shit online.
There's a documentary out there about It's plenty of them.
This is about a heist Radiota Scott Eastwood. They decided,
while the whole world is distracted, everything is burning, everybody's looting,
(42:25):
rioting and burning La the fuck down. Let's go break
in this warehouse and steal fifty platinum bars out of
this motherfucker's safe and do a heist. And you have
never in your life seen as many white people in
the South Central LA. Movie. I'll give you the list. Colors,
Minister Society, boys in the Hood, baby Boy, Poetic Justice,
(42:49):
set it off straight out of Compton and the New
show Snowfall. Whenever you see white people, whenever you see
white people in these South Central LA movies, they're normally
police officer. This is fucking up black and brown people.
This movie is the This is nineteen ninety two is
my South Central Fast and the Furious.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Imagine that so and Ray passed, Ray passed away, and
this is the last piece of already left the world
with And it is the most uncomfortable performance you'll ever
see from Rayleoto. I mean, I'm talking about on the set, Ray,
what's going on? Yeah, all right, Ray wasn't fucking with nobody.
(43:34):
Ray was in it.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
You deal with a lot of grief, like I think
about you know, brother Paul Walker, and I think about
John Ray, John Singleton, your mother, divorce, your sisters. People
don't look at divorces grief, but you did. You lose things.
You know, you probably lost a lot of friends when
you went through your mental health breakdown. Are you really
(43:56):
really really have you really taken the time to deal
with all of that grief or do you just try
to stay busy?
Speaker 9 (44:02):
To a boy, I'm doing the best I can. What
every twenty four hours, I get, that's its tissue.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
No, I don't need no tissue, black men cry you
no fucking tissue. Every twenty four hours I get. I'm
doing the best I can. Beautiful Pain, nineteen ninety two.
(44:39):
There is no square footage I could ever live in.
There was no rims, no jury at, no car, There
is no net worth. There was no press release, there
was no co star. There is no collaboration in the
world that could ever replace my mama, that could feel
(45:00):
the void of what it's like to wake up and
get married and want to be in something for the
rest of your life and it goes away. I don't
need no tissue. Man, understand how much power it is
and letting it go.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
Yeah, because you've been holding the whole interview.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
You asked me the question, But I mean you should
have never asked the question if you didn't want to
see how hard it's being to get through. Okay, do
you not cry?
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (45:33):
You might not bring it to the radio, But this
is what being grown is. I'm not doing this.
Speaker 5 (45:43):
I mean, my makeup going to mess up. Hear me,
I can hear hear me.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Black men cry when divorces happen. Women aren't the only
ones that have devastated when a miscarriage happens. Women are
not the only one that you should be checking on
when you can't put food on the table because your
(46:10):
career goes up and then it goes down. Stop calling,
skipping over the man and just checking on the woman.
This is real shit out here. I'm gonna wipe my
own tears. I love you, sis. When you do things
(46:31):
from the heart of the facts hearts, that's what beautiful
pain is. Y'all might outsell me the first week I
made a fucking classic. Some of the most legendary movies
in the world didn't do well in the box office.
(46:52):
Baby Boy bombed. Do your research? Is it a classic?
Baby Boy? People to even know who the fuck I
was as actor when that movie came out.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
Maybe BT still got a network.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Praise God. If the movie bombed in the box office,
why is it the only movie that they still playing
on b ET every day. Don't confuse data and numbers
and popularity with the reality of what affects hearts. I'm
a grown ass man, and I'm gonna tell y'all something
(47:29):
about nineteen ninety two as well as the mass singer
when I did that show, praise God for Nick Cannon,
shout out to him. I was really a mass singer.
I needed that mask so fucking bad. I needed that
money from that show so bad. I didn't have it
(47:51):
in me to go stand on that fucking stage and
sing and praise God. I had a mask on because
while I was on stage singing if they had seen
my face under that mask. Listen, if it all ends
for me tomorrow, I never sold you on fake. None
(48:13):
of this jury on my mom is real. Don't love
me because of no fucking diamonds. Take all this shit.
This bracelet right here, look realism. Motherfuck. This shit was
twenty three dollars on Amazon. You said nothing. Hear me
out it don't look fake right If you out here
(48:35):
getting fake vagina over your fake jury, reality is reality.
This shit is corny. It's all fake. It's all superficial.
It doesn't mean anything. Can I ask you a question?
My brother and clothing. Everybody go see nineteen ninety two
(48:55):
and Beautiful Pain. They both drop Friday, August thirtieth. It's
a labor day weekend. Shout out to Snoop Dogg, who's
an executive producer on board. I want you to understand something.
R and B just changed the live instruments. Gotta come out,
go pulling my chick garage. Just time to dust them out.
(49:16):
All of y'all out here making these beats on these
goddamn iPhones, and y'all end up number one. Y'all gonna
have to have a seat.
Speaker 5 (49:23):
That's why you did everything live. You're trying to bring
it back to that.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
I didn't do it live on purpose. That just ended
up happening because I got into the biggest argument ever
with my producer named Brandon. He was like, bro, I'm
not doing that no more. We're not pulling out logic,
we're not pulling out beat machines. We're doing this shit live.
And I said, I don't even know what the fuck
that is, but I tell you what. The number one song,
biggest song of my life, produced by Warren Campbell, was
(49:47):
number one on Billboard for sixteen weeks, and that was live.
It's called Shame Shame. Wildflower. Shame was not a remake.
Wildflo is a remake that everybody already loved, and the
person who co wrote produce it has something to do
with it fifty years ago is involved with the current
(50:08):
version of the song. I just want you to know
that everything just changed. If you ain't never Bret a
real person in your life, I'm sitting right here, like me,
dislike me, agree with me, disagree with me. Whoever your
favorite is, I hope they stay your favorite. I've never
tried to win the popularity contest, and if I did.
I got every celebrity, director, actor, rapper, porn star, you
(50:32):
name it. They're all on my phone. I know all
these motherfuckers. I could be as hot as I want
to be. You don't think I got TMZ on the phone.
You don't think I know Harvey Levin. You don't think
I can make a phone call and say this is
what restaurant I'm eating at. Paparazzi show up.
Speaker 5 (50:45):
I used to work there. I would be there when
you Okay, are.
Speaker 3 (50:48):
Those areas real?
Speaker 1 (50:50):
No? You can't. You know why it's not real because
I've lost so much of this shit. They spent a
half a million dollar long on the fuck what called
Jacob to jeweler, nigga, call all of them all your
most favorite popular jeweler's online and all got my black Centurion.
(51:10):
You don't know what centurion is.
Speaker 3 (51:11):
They're platinum called that centurion called a black heart.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
They know what that centurion is. That thing goes through.
I'm good. I don't lose no sleep over trying to
win the popularity contest from showing up with all this
jury that I'm gonna leave on a night stand and
have a housekeeper to say, I don't know I'm sure
you don't know. I'm sure you don't know. For them
two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, fucking two hundred and
(51:38):
thousand dollars, it raises that I don't know.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
We looked at anywhere.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
I'm sure you looked everywhere. That motherfucker retired two weeks later,
and sure hotels ain't paying me back to this day.
Speaker 10 (51:51):
You know's new album beautiful pig Star TV everywhere you
scream music on a piece of history, double y August
Beautiful Pain.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
On my on my website. Thank you for asking that
there's a limited edition version of the album. And every
limited edition version of my Beautiful Pain album that is purchased,
it comes signed. I'm not putting your name on it, motherfucker.
There's too many of them, but I'm signing every individual album.
Go to tyres dot tv pre order. I want you
to own a piece of history.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
August thirtieth, Beautiful Pain will be out.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
And thank you for everybody who's shawing up for my dreams,
my engineers, my writers, my producers. I wish I had
the time to go into every individual name, but I
just want you all to know, man, y'all showed up
for my dreams. Y'all been my therapist, you've been my friend,
You've encouraged me. And I have to close this out
(52:52):
by giving the one and only name that matters. If
you don't know, Jesus, the Lord Jesus Christ is my
Lord and savior. Every therapist has ever helped me, every friend,
every brother, girlfriend laughed at jokes. I would not be
(53:16):
here if it wasn't for the power and the presence
of the Lord Jesus Christ, who has been by my side.
When I thought it was over, when I thought it
was a rap, When I thought, what you thought? What
more do you congradual life? When I thought it was over,
God said no, I'm God. Amen, I got my hands
(53:42):
on you. Son. All you got to do is wake
up and decide to not do nothing. Stupid. Divorce is divorce.
People out here get sad and messed up and broken
and they decide they don't want to live no more.
I praise God every single day that that's never been
a choice. It's not because narcissism. Ego, oh, he would
(54:03):
never hurt himself. Because some of the biggest egos in
the world, with money and all the success in the world,
have made that choice, and if you're struggling with that,
I just want you to invite the Lord Jesus Christ
into your most vulnerable spaces and places and watch and
see what only God can do. Beautiful Pain at nineteen
(54:23):
ninety two are both dropping August thirty, Labor Day weekend Friday,
August thirty. If the only place you can get Beautiful
Pain right now is on Tyres TV, I can't sell
you on anything you don't want to be sold on
because the data, the pop little Taytay livery All I
can say is if you've grown and sexy and you
appreciate real song, real vulnerabilities, real music, and I'm gonna
(54:47):
tell you something else Charlemagne and I'm gonna shut up.
I praise God for this. I've actually played this album
for more married couples. They've danced, they've cried, they've wiped
each other others tears, they've literally said including Snoop Dog
with his wife that he's been with since high school.
He said, Babe, I'm sorry, and she like what, babs,
(55:11):
you know whatever? This album has brought married couples closer.
They're having sex the bedroom, they taking bubble baths, they
apologize and they're like, what are we arguing about? Like
what this is not I went through a divorce. This
ain't no bitter shit. You are not about to pick
(55:33):
up my I'm not about to be the Lord Jesus
Christ Jesus, and I'm about to release an album to
contribute to the divorce rate. M if y'all think y'all
about to go pick up an album where I'm going
at my ex the whole time. No, no, no, I got songs,
I got feelings, I got vulnerabilities and sentiments. I am
(55:54):
not misogynistic, I am not condescending. I'm not ripping her
down too. I am telling my truth. Point out the
difference in me and all of your female singers who
have ever released songs and singles about problems, cheated on,
lies and divorces and things that they've been through. And
it's fucked up for y'all to continue coming at me
(56:15):
like I can't express my sentiments and feelings the way
women have been able to do since the beginning of time.
Go get this work, beautiful, pain Tyrens TV nineteen ninety
two were making history and everybody to try and block it.
Move out the way God's got his hands on this.
Speaker 3 (56:34):
Gives I love you, brother. Don't run from your grief. Brother.
It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1 (56:38):
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